Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway?
Speaker 1: Age limit? Is there an age limit for you on dating?
Speaker 1: Is this? Is there an age like you're like, you
Speaker 1: gotta be this age and you can't be over that age?
Speaker 2: So is there a Shannon, I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 2: these twenty two year olds are on my body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can believe it.
Speaker 2: And it's so. And I'm like old enough to be
Speaker 2: your mama. Like I'm forty one years old. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't even like girls my age. A da da dah.
Speaker 2: They immature very yeah, yeah, and immature for sure. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that's that's not my thing, right, But I
Speaker 2: mean there's some little cutie pies, but they're young as hell.
Speaker 1: So you say you're forty one, so if they're like
Speaker 1: at least has to be at least thirty and then
Speaker 1: I'm not a going above fifty. So is there like
Speaker 1: thirty and fifty that's my that's my demo? Or is
Speaker 1: it thirty sixty that's my demo? What's what's what's the demo?
Speaker 2: What's the It depends. It depends on the man. It depends. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because if I if I really like love you or
Speaker 2: I like you. I'm the one that I'm the one
Speaker 2: to have sex all day. So you can't be too old?
Speaker 2: Were you that you can't? You gotta be able to
Speaker 2: hands with me because I'm in my prime right now.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I did say I wasn't gonna yees listen.
Speaker 1: Joan, check my bang over there. Join. But you call
Speaker 1: criticism when you dated Savage? I think he was twenty four.
Speaker 1: You were thirty three.
Speaker 2: Is that nine years? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that? Is that the is that the biggest
Speaker 1: age discrepancy as far as you being older? Amber? Let
Speaker 1: me find out you're passing out now, ladies and Jolly.
Speaker 2: Ranch got no again.
Speaker 1: I mean guys like what they like?
Speaker 2: These young boys shed it. I mean, you know, after
Speaker 2: a while you just say.
Speaker 1: You know, like we were and when I was when
Speaker 1: I was in high school and the teacher didn't look
Speaker 1: like they look now. I'm what I'm saying. When you
Speaker 1: found when you had one teacher that you like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and here you are, like twelve thirteen and she's like
Speaker 1: twenty five, You're like, wow, man, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get so I guess yeah, I can. I can see guys.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I think that's what happened with
Speaker 2: girls my age, right, These young boys watched us for
Speaker 2: a long time and now they're old enough to pursue
Speaker 2: us and date us, and that's why they're on us
Speaker 2: like that. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: You see the situation. And I think she got more
Speaker 1: criticism than you, Drea Michelle and Jalen Green. I think she.
Speaker 1: I think her oldest son is actually the same age
Speaker 1: is Jalen Green? And you know, and you know, Jayleen's
Speaker 1: grown and people are like, well, you know, groom, she
Speaker 1: didn't meet the kid when he was seven. Bro, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on now, Yeah, I don't know if you know her,
Speaker 1: but what do you think about that situation?
Speaker 2: I one, I think to each his own, and he
Speaker 2: is a grown man, correct. I think that the outrage
Speaker 2: is more so that her son was the same age
Speaker 2: my son, my oldest is twelve. So if my oldest
Speaker 2: was twenty two, I may feel different as a mother
Speaker 2: talking to a twenty two year old. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. But for me to talk
Speaker 2: to a twenty two year old, I don't really care.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't date them and be serious with them, but
Speaker 2: I had my little fun and then I'll keep it moving,
Speaker 2: you know. But I think that was the outrage. But
Speaker 2: I think they look beautiful together and have a baby together.
Speaker 2: They seem happy, They seem very happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at al Pacino. Al Pacino's eighty three.
Speaker 1: Uh he just had a baby and uh she was
Speaker 1: twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I said too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for her, but that might be a bit.
Speaker 1: But that might be a bit bunch. Ever, that might
Speaker 1: be a bit more.
Speaker 2: How much is Albutineo worth?
Speaker 1: Probably three hundred?
Speaker 2: Well, good for her.
Speaker 1: Well, he definitely he definitely ain't going all day, so
Speaker 1: hopefully you know, she only scheduled.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See yeah, See that's what I can't deal with.
Speaker 2: I can't deal with. I can't deal with that. That's
Speaker 2: too old for me.
Speaker 1: I mean god, Lee, I mean, well, you have to
Speaker 1: get somebody this twenty the early thirties, that's.
Speaker 2: Not true medications.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, okay with the metter case you better
Speaker 1: case you medter case, you better cass shot. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Roe Sparks. Let me ask you this. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: someone shares dating your your youngest son's father, yes, you
Speaker 1: you'll be okay, with like when when when other celebrities
Speaker 1: date people that you once dated, you be okay with that?
Speaker 1: You're like, try to you trying to beat me or
Speaker 1: something like that. Do you do you get upset with it?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you look at my track record,
Speaker 2: all my exes dated, Babbage is after me. I was
Speaker 2: their initial Babbage, right, and then Babbage is when to
Speaker 2: date them because I dated them. That's just how the
Speaker 2: game goes.
Speaker 1: But they can't see you though, which you mean the
Speaker 1: ones they dating now for you, ain't you? They try
Speaker 1: to get they try to replace you.
Speaker 2: If that's your opinion, I'll take it. I'm not finna
Speaker 2: say that. Okay, you know, but God bless them. Look
Speaker 2: when it comes to my children, as long as my
Speaker 2: children are happy, I grew up with step parents. I
Speaker 2: know how it is to have step parents, or my
Speaker 2: mom was dating people and stuff like that. I don't
Speaker 2: feel no type of way. As long as these women
Speaker 2: are nice to my children, that's all I care about. Honestly.
Speaker 2: All the other stuff is it means nothing to me.
Speaker 1: But why do people try to get in a way
Speaker 1: when someone is dating someone older, be it the man
Speaker 1: dating a younger woman or the woman dating a younger man.
Speaker 1: Why do people always try Why they can't just be
Speaker 1: happy for him? I mean, that's not your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do you care? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, you know how the
Speaker 2: internet is. They just everyone has an opinion. Everyone has
Speaker 2: something to.
Speaker 1: Say, but they think their opinion matters to it does not.
Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you when I got canceled because I
Speaker 2: endorse Donald Trump. Right when I'm out in the street,
Speaker 2: I'm not canceled. Everybody still wants pictures. Everybody says to me,
Speaker 2: I still go. Do you know charity softball games give
Speaker 2: out autographs? Show up here there in the third You
Speaker 2: would think it never even happened on the internet. So
Speaker 2: the Internet is faked.
Speaker 1: It's just a It's just a loud as. They make
Speaker 1: the most noise it is. I had to learn that
Speaker 1: in the hard way because I was thinking, because everybody's
Speaker 1: had something negative to say Amber and I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: But then my sister says, Shannon, do you think you
Speaker 1: could be where you are on ESPN? You did? You
Speaker 1: got Club Shashe, you got Nightcap, you got all these
Speaker 1: sparks and advertisers. Do you actually think you could be
Speaker 1: this if all these people hated you exactly, and once
Speaker 1: you really think about.
Speaker 2: It, No, everybody that can talk about you or meet
Speaker 2: on the internet, when they see us, they would ask
Speaker 2: us for a picture and they would be excited.
Speaker 1: Not one person I've met in the last three years
Speaker 1: since I've been on my own have ever said anything
Speaker 1: that somebody said to me on the internet.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's all fake. It's all fake outrage.
Speaker 2: And you sit at home and you read it and
Speaker 2: you're just like consumed with it. You get all nervous,
Speaker 2: and then you go out. You're like, no one really
Speaker 2: gets it. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Give me some relationship advice. What's the best relationship advice
Speaker 1: you can give me? Am, I'm hurt right now. I'm
Speaker 1: hurt right now. Oh pull, hustle hard up.
Speaker 2: You're trying to get somebody back.
Speaker 1: Hell, I might be trying to get somebody.
Speaker 2: You trying to get somebody. I would say, be a genuine,
Speaker 2: a genuine person, don't be a liar, don't be a
Speaker 2: love bomber. Spend some money. Girls like money, Shannon.
Speaker 1: They do. Yes, I'll hustle. I ain't got it like that.
Speaker 1: You got it like that?
Speaker 2: You've been you you got had club shase shape for
Speaker 2: three years. Yeah. If you have money, you gotta spend
Speaker 2: money on girls. If you want an upper echelon type
Speaker 2: of girl, you have to spend money much enough, nothing crazy,
Speaker 2: but you got you gotta take the girls shopping. You
Speaker 2: gotta be like yo.
Speaker 1: I was, no, okay, you do not.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about you. I bought you a Chanel
Speaker 2: bag or a burkin. I just think channel bag is fine.
Speaker 2: Early on it is fine.
Speaker 1: They started like twelve fifteen hour.
Speaker 2: Chanel bags do too, though sheel bags are up there
Speaker 2: as well. All I'm Shannon, No, you got it. Don't
Speaker 2: sit here and act like that. Don't be cheap. Girls
Speaker 2: don't like that. You got to spend that money.
Speaker 1: Man, I might have to put two ends in ch nail.
Speaker 2: You don't get it from what's that website? The Ta
Speaker 2: moved or Ali Baba.
Speaker 1: Public breakups? You know you date public? You got to
Speaker 1: break up public and it's bad. Yeah, and it's really
Speaker 1: bad now between CARTI and Offset. If you're in a
Speaker 1: situation like that, would you go back and forth with
Speaker 1: your X online?
Speaker 2: I would not, but some people feel the need to. Why.
Speaker 2: I also think I've been famous much longer than Cardi. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think when you're newly famous, you do feel like
Speaker 2: you have to explain to the internet. So you I've
Speaker 2: taken plenty of l's on the internet because I just
Speaker 2: didn't explain myself. They've associated me with men that I
Speaker 2: never even met in my life. And just like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to sit here all day and dwell on this.
Speaker 2: They're going to do it anyway whatever. But she she
Speaker 2: feels the need that she has to defend herself, and
Speaker 2: I'm actually not mad at it. Like I look back
Speaker 2: and be like, damn, it's kind of inspiring that she
Speaker 2: does that. I kind of wish I did that early on.
Speaker 1: You know, well, when you and Kanye broke up, he
Speaker 1: had something a song to say, and he says something
Speaker 1: really negative about you, and I felt that he could
Speaker 1: like that. He said that he had like something he
Speaker 1: had to take a bath or something. You remember that
Speaker 1: that didn't couldn't have made you feel good.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'll tell you something, Shannon. Men that are
Speaker 2: in new relationships sometimes they have to say mean things
Speaker 2: about their ex so their girlfriend. Their girlfriend doesn't feel
Speaker 2: bad about it.
Speaker 1: No, No, I am in the problem. I am in
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: Nobody tuk it down to somebody else it psychologically or like,
Speaker 2: that's what they do so the girl can be like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: talk about her. So it makes me feel good. I'm
Speaker 2: not an insecure If a man said that about his ex,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, you spent two years with her, You
Speaker 2: took her all around the world, you brought her everything
Speaker 2: she wanted. She knows your whole family his you know
Speaker 2: his aunties and cousins. They still hit me in Dan's
Speaker 2: and call me and text me years and years later,
Speaker 2: checking on me and my kids. So I was good
Speaker 2: enough for you to be with. It's not like me
Speaker 2: and Kanye were. We were together in a relationship for
Speaker 2: two years. You know what I'm saying. So to say
Speaker 2: that about me is that wasn't cool.
Speaker 1: Did you hit him up and say, bro, why you
Speaker 1: do that for what?
Speaker 2: For what? I'm not hitting that man up. He knows what.
Speaker 2: One day I'll get my apology. One day he'll come
Speaker 2: out and be like, I should have never said that,
Speaker 2: dumb ash it. But that's why I said he likes
Speaker 2: fingers in his booty. Oh, because it was just like
Speaker 2: but I didn't say that as a factual statement. I
Speaker 2: said it because it's like, you want to hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hurt your feelings. So you know, it
Speaker 2: was childish and it was immature, But thirty showers was
Speaker 2: crazy when I didn't even have sex with you unprotected
Speaker 2: until you got tested. You're Kanye Weston. I made you
Speaker 2: get tested before we had unprotected sex. So how you
Speaker 2: got to take thirty showers after me? I wasn't the
Speaker 2: one au cheating and doing dumb. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do know. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what about these rumors? You know there's a Chris Rock rumor.
Speaker 1: There was a room with c J. Stroud and then
Speaker 1: this room of last room with Amon Shumper because I
Speaker 1: think they photographed you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amon is I called Emon to hook me up
Speaker 2: with other guys. That's my dog, like, Emon is like
Speaker 2: literally one of my best friends. So me and mom
Speaker 2: have nothing going on. We never had nothing going on. CJ.
Speaker 2: Straw was nice enough to give me a ride home.
Speaker 2: I was in Houston. My assistants from Houston. He went
Speaker 2: to go visit his mom and I didn't have anybody
Speaker 2: with me. I was supposed to take the sprinter back
Speaker 2: to the hotel for this charity game last year, and
Speaker 2: the sprinter left me. So CJ was like, I live
Speaker 2: in Houston. I don't mind giving you a ride back
Speaker 2: to the hotel. I'm not going to leave you here
Speaker 2: to get it uber and I was like, thank you,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it took me to the hotel. We're all
Speaker 2: over the internet the next day. So it's just like
Speaker 2: things like that. It makes my life tough because let's
Speaker 2: say I am pursuing a man or somebody likes me
Speaker 2: and they're like everybody you know, it's just not what's
Speaker 2: happening at all.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, my beautiful, dark twisted fantasy album. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was about you. Huh.
Speaker 2: You gotta ask him that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean people say he was making good
Speaker 1: music when he was with you. He might need to
Speaker 1: get back.
Speaker 2: They all make good music with me.
Speaker 1: I'm saying he need to come on back, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, he don't need to come back.
Speaker 1: He didn't come back. He need to come to Amber Music.
Speaker 2: No. No, I'll be his friend, but I don't.
Speaker 1: On the Blame Game, Amber Rose on the Blame Game songs,
Speaker 1: what were you trying to say?
Speaker 2: Who you I say nothing on that Jesus talk.
Speaker 1: You say Jesz taught me the blame game skit.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a mean yeah, No it's not. No, the
Speaker 2: Internet says that it's me right, that is not me, okay,
Speaker 2: just like the Internet said he found me in the
Speaker 2: strip club in my life, that did not happen.
Speaker 1: He rescued you here, rescued.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: When Kanye jumped up on that stage and took that
Speaker 1: mic from Taylor swellt yeah, what was going through your mind?
Speaker 1: I was like, Holy, did you have any idea he
Speaker 1: was going to do that?
Speaker 2: No? No, No, I had no idea. I had no
Speaker 2: idea he was going to do that. And he was
Speaker 2: so fast. He was like sitting right here, and then
Speaker 2: I think it was like Beyonce's Solange and like we're
Speaker 2: sitting next to me on this side, and he was
Speaker 2: so fast. And you know, even to this day, I
Speaker 2: tell people like he was wrong for taking Taylor's moment. Yes,
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Was he wrong in what he said? No,
Speaker 2: he was not wrong. And I think over time being famous,
Speaker 2: you see a lot of things that are just not okay.
Speaker 2: And they used celebrity as pawns in their in their
Speaker 2: weird little game, right, and he was just fed up,
Speaker 2: and when he got off the stage, he was instantly remorseful.
Speaker 2: He apologized to Taylor and her mom.
Speaker 1: It's over though. You can't apologize for that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gonna apologize.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, but at that moment, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: To have something. I don't know if we've ever seen
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a protest, and we've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: politicians and somebody throw a pie in their face and
Speaker 1: put eggs and you know, things like that. But to
Speaker 1: be at the Grammy, that's her. The matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I think I might have been her first.
Speaker 2: It was the MTV Awards and.
Speaker 1: That might have Yeah, well she she won what Album
Speaker 1: of the Year or something of the year.
Speaker 2: She won Video Video Year. Yeah, one Video of the
Speaker 2: Year over Beyonce single Ladies. That's kind of crazy sing
Speaker 2: come on it is crazy. And I love Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: She's always been very nice to me and my children.
Speaker 2: But Beyonce should have won and sometimes.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't his place. It was if if Beyonce
Speaker 1: jump up on stage and snatch that snatch the microphone,
Speaker 1: I can live with that, but not him.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: What was the ride home? Be true?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So on the ride home was it quiet? It was like, damn, Kanye,
Speaker 1: I think you might have messed up on this one.
Speaker 1: What was the ride home like?
Speaker 2: Well, if I remember correctly, he was on the phone
Speaker 2: with people and I think people were just like, why
Speaker 2: didn't you just write that? But then we went to
Speaker 2: the Spoted Pig and we were having a good time,
Speaker 2: and he did feel bad. You know, Like it's hard
Speaker 2: for me because I do have a place in my
Speaker 2: heart for Kanye, you where I know the good side
Speaker 2: of him. I've experienced the good side of him. But
Speaker 2: when he surrounds himself with people that just feed the
Speaker 2: dark side of him, he's not living at his full potential.
Speaker 2: So I feel bad when I see things that he
Speaker 2: does sometimes, and I'm like, you don't have somebody around
Speaker 2: you that's maternal in a way, that's gonna They're gonna
Speaker 2: sit you down and love on you and get you
Speaker 2: to do the right things.
Speaker 1: You know, do you believe he's a different person after
Speaker 1: his mom died? How much impact did that have on him?
Speaker 1: Because everybody seemed to believe that from the moment that
Speaker 1: happened that he's been a very different Kanye with so
Speaker 1: I haven't had.
Speaker 2: The pleasure of meeting his mom. I've met Kanye after
Speaker 2: his mom passed, but I will tell you from experience.
Speaker 2: My mother lost her mother at a young age. So
Speaker 2: when I did get with Kanye, I knew how to
Speaker 2: take care of him because I had always taken care
Speaker 2: of my mother.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: He wasn't acting like that with me, Shannon. He wasn't
Speaker 2: that guy he did the MTV show, But he wasn't
Speaker 2: acting like how he's acting now. When he was with me.
Speaker 2: He wasn't doing that because I would sit him down
Speaker 2: and talk to him and, you know, tell him to
Speaker 2: go in the other room and take a picture of
Speaker 2: his mom and speak to her and tell her about
Speaker 2: your day and tell her how much you miss her,
Speaker 2: and light some candles and cry and it's okay. You know.
Speaker 2: I don't think he has anybody around him that's really
Speaker 2: I don't know, just loving on him, just loving on
Speaker 2: him the proper way. That's just me from the outside
Speaker 2: looking in. That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1: When you see Kanye today, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Again? I think that he has enablers around him that
Speaker 2: don't actually care about him. That's what it looks like
Speaker 2: to me. I don't have inside information on what's going
Speaker 2: on in that camp, but just looking from the outside,
Speaker 2: and that's what it looks like to me.
Speaker 1: When you see Kanye and his wife, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's his ex wife, the reports that they're getting divorced,
Speaker 1: so forth, and song Let's just say for the sake
Speaker 1: of argument, they are together and you see how she's dressing.
Speaker 1: Is that she's dressing like that or Kanye dressing her honey?
Speaker 2: Is for her like that? Yeah? He did the same
Speaker 2: thing to me and Kim is.
Speaker 1: Why is he like? I mean, obviously you're a very
Speaker 1: statuesque woman. You have curves, you you know, you're very figured.
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it a about that that
Speaker 1: he wants the world to know, look at my woman?
Speaker 2: We can see he wants other men to want his woman.
Speaker 2: That's what he's into. He likes that, he likes he
Speaker 2: likes that men are like drooling over his woman. That's
Speaker 2: what he's into.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I like to think anybody
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm with that somebody wants her. If Helen
Speaker 1: don't nobody want her. But me, I need a real
Speaker 1: sens I need to real sens what I'm doing. But
Speaker 1: to like to really like man, I won't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants all his friends doing his girlfriend. He
Speaker 2: wants everybody that when you walk in a room, that
Speaker 2: his girlfriend or wife is the most desirable.
Speaker 1: And she's the baddest be in the room.
Speaker 2: That's what he likes.
Speaker 1: Yeah m hm, And you dressed like that because that's
Speaker 1: what he wanted. You want to please your man.
Speaker 2: I was young, and who I'm gonna tell Kanye No,
Speaker 2: Like when I'm that young, it's like, Okay, you're buying
Speaker 2: me this stuff. I do look pretty cool. But Shannon,
Speaker 2: now if you look at old pictures of me when
Speaker 2: I'm dating Kanye, but I'm out by myself, I have
Speaker 2: all his clothes on. Yeah, I have a baggy jeans on,
Speaker 2: T shirt, big ass jacket. I rated his closet when
Speaker 2: he wasn't home, I would wear all his stuff because
Speaker 2: I used to hate to dress like a whore. Basically,
Speaker 2: I used to hate it. So I used to rebel
Speaker 2: when he wasn't home and I would go in his closet.
Speaker 1: So I ask you this, ideally, how does the amber
Speaker 1: rose like to dress is the occasion appropriate. So if
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Grammys, I'm going to someplace else,
Speaker 1: I'm going to dress appropriate. But when I'm in when
Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out with my girls, I'm saying, you're
Speaker 1: not wearing all that stuff.
Speaker 2: No, I'm in sweatpants and I'm in a sweatsuit usually
Speaker 2: with some Jordan's on, maybe a little dad hat or something.
Speaker 2: I'm very casual.
Speaker 1: Would you? I mean I don't think you had you did?
Speaker 1: I mean I think you did have one little seat
Speaker 1: through dresses that Kanye put his wife in at one
Speaker 1: point in time.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. Amber I cried, really, yes I did.
Speaker 2: I remember crying. I was in like Italy or Paris
Speaker 2: or something, and I remember crying and arguing with him
Speaker 2: and being like, I don't want to wear this. I
Speaker 2: don't want to wear it. You don't understand his fashion.
Speaker 2: I'm a genius, you know. I hear, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I still don't want to wear it, but I wind
Speaker 2: up wearing it. They ate me up on the internet
Speaker 2: and they ate me up and then.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the guys will try to eat you up.
Speaker 1: To the guys. The guy loved it. The guy loved it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I really just don't.
Speaker 1: Well, that's something you let as you look back, that
Speaker 1: was many many years ago. It was if that was
Speaker 1: something you do again. You never do anything like that again.
Speaker 1: Do what were something like that? No, but that was
Speaker 1: because that was prior kids. It was so you got
Speaker 1: kids now, so you guys be like, nah, I got boys. No,
Speaker 1: I can't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm actually on only fans, right, okay,
Speaker 2: And so I know only fans has like this stigma
Speaker 2: of like corn and right, I am on only fans.
Speaker 2: I'm doing cute pictures, selfies. I'm talking to my fans. Hey,
Speaker 2: what are you doing today? Oh I'm going on Club
Speaker 2: Shadehay today. Make sure you tune in next week.
Speaker 1: Blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's my only fans. I make a lot of money
Speaker 2: on only fans.
Speaker 1: Beat picks, No, I don't do feed No.
Speaker 2: I mean everybody got their price. Yeah, somebody asked for
Speaker 2: a feet pick. It depends on what they want to
Speaker 2: pay outs and my feet who cares? But yes, because
Speaker 2: I have children, there's certain things that I just will
Speaker 2: not do because I respect and love my boys.
Speaker 1: You're a model for Louis Baton Ford models Vogue Walk
Speaker 1: to Run with at New York Fashion Week? How is
Speaker 1: that world? What is it like to be a model?
Speaker 1: Because I think you know what is is? What is
Speaker 1: that world like? I would like to go to fashion
Speaker 1: Week in Paris. I like to go sit down and
Speaker 1: see a Tom Ford show or d or whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be. I like to see one of those shows.
Speaker 1: What what's that world like?
Speaker 2: Ever, I personally don't like it. Really, It's not my thing, Shannon.
Speaker 2: I'd rather have a barbecue with some loud music and
Speaker 2: be with my friends and like dance and just have
Speaker 2: a good time with no phones and just chill out.
Speaker 2: I'm that girl, right. Fashion week is very superficial. Although
Speaker 2: I love brands.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing Baman, but I'm looking at the shoulder pass.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's something I probably should know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, my adjusts. So don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 2: like certain things within fashion, but I do not like
Speaker 2: the fashion world. Most of the people are ugly. There's yeah,
Speaker 2: there's ugly on the inside too. You know, they're just
Speaker 2: ugly people on the inside. Because it's not about who
Speaker 2: you are as a person, it's about what you have
Speaker 2: on and only what you have on. So it becomes
Speaker 2: very over there because no one is actually real. It's like,
Speaker 2: what did you have to do to put this eight
Speaker 2: thousand dollars outfit on? What did you have to do
Speaker 2: to get that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And that's all they care about out there, So it's
Speaker 2: just not really my world.
Speaker 1: Wow, is modeling really a cut the business? It is?
Speaker 2: It is very much. It's like every other business. It's
Speaker 2: like depends on who and what what you know, what
Speaker 2: connection you have is all the same, it's all the same.
Speaker 1: Did you ever interact with Naomi Campbell? Tower Banks? Did
Speaker 1: you ever meet They were a.
Speaker 2: Little bit before you, way before me, like twenty years before.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got something because this seems to be like
Speaker 1: the last year and a half, there's been all this
Speaker 1: talk about these Hollywood parties.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Ever, what's really going on?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You ain't up anybody to hard with.
Speaker 2: I've been to probably everyone. I've been to every puff party.
Speaker 2: I've been to every white party since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: I've been to every party.
Speaker 1: And you just going the wrong You go in the
Speaker 1: right room, not the wrong room.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's rooms Chan, I'm gonna be honest. Now. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very, very transparent on the show. If
Speaker 2: these freak offs are happening, it's on a completely different
Speaker 2: day than the actual Puffy. It's not that day because
Speaker 2: every time I was there, Puff was there the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know, he's hey, you got the Sarah, he's on
Speaker 2: the DJ booth, he's the host of the party. I
Speaker 2: will say that now I've had this conversation with ray J.
Speaker 2: Rayge is one of my best friends. I said, ray
Speaker 2: did they ever invite you to a freak golf? Because
Speaker 2: they never invited me and I donet been at these parties.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, why.
Speaker 1: Get the invite because I know you don't get down
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe they know I don't get down like that. Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: but you would think maybe an assistant would come up
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you like girls, or like, you
Speaker 2: know you into Never no one ever asked me that.
Speaker 2: They never asked ray J either, And me and ray
Speaker 2: J was talking about it. We were like, i'dn't been
Speaker 2: to the party, the after party, the after after party,
Speaker 2: I've never seen none of that stuff. But that's not
Speaker 2: to say that it does not happen or invalidate people that.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's a different day that I'm
Speaker 2: just not invited to. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You think it's a plot because we saw it happened
Speaker 1: with Russell Simmons. Now we see it happen with Pete Diddy,
Speaker 1: and you think it is a plot or a ploy
Speaker 1: to take down prominent hoigh powered black man.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It really depends on the evidence, right,
Speaker 2: because they did say that there were drugs in the
Speaker 2: baby oil. I don't know. That's a legend.
Speaker 1: A thousand bottles of baby on.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't know, because the Internet
Speaker 2: is fake, Like you said earlier, you just don't know.
Speaker 2: But if that is in fact true, then that that
Speaker 2: is a problem. One thing I do know about Puff
Speaker 2: is that he's an abuser. You know, he abused Cassie.
Speaker 2: We all saw the videos. It is not okay. And
Speaker 2: but as far as the freak offs, I don't know
Speaker 2: about that. I just.
Speaker 1: Did you have When I say relationship, I don't mean
Speaker 1: intimate relationship. Did you have a relationship with Puff Daddy?
Speaker 1: Where you cool? Did you talk? Did you know him?
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 2: I would say that we didn't talk on the phone
Speaker 2: and we didn't hang out, but I was always invited
Speaker 2: to the party. Okay, and that's the extent of our friendship.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, is it true that you were at the
Speaker 1: Halloween party that Puff's sons and ray J got into it?
Speaker 2: I was, yes, I was right there.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: They just pressed ray J. They were just like, stop
Speaker 2: talking about dad, and then ray J said what he said,
Speaker 2: like something like I know your dad better than you
Speaker 2: know your dad or something like that, and then it
Speaker 2: just got ugly for a second. Yeah, because I'm cool
Speaker 2: with Christian and Justin and Quincy, but then I also
Speaker 2: love ray J. It's like my brother, and I'm just like, guys,
Speaker 2: please just just stop. It's not worth it, y'all. Don't
Speaker 2: want to do this, like so it, you know. And
Speaker 2: I told ray Je, I said, look, that's their dad.
Speaker 2: What do you expect them to do? Like of course
Speaker 2: they're going to stand up for their dad, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like rightfully.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: But it's reported that breeze It Chris Brown was the peacemaker.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 2: I think I was the peace name that was you? Well,
Speaker 2: from what I remember, I was going to both sides
Speaker 2: and like, y'all don't need to do this. But maybe
Speaker 2: Chris came down at some point. It was in the garage.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: What have you learned about thing? Oh, because you've had
Speaker 1: more than fifteen minutes, you've had two decades of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going on sixteen years. What have I learned
Speaker 2: about fame? That half of these motherfuckers don't know what
Speaker 2: they're doing. All the publicists, all the fake ass managers,
Speaker 2: all the business managers, they all manipulate all of us
Speaker 2: into thinking that they have all the answers when we
Speaker 2: ourselves have the answers as the entertainers or the socialites
Speaker 2: or the famous people. We got here because of us.
Speaker 1: Before a manager, before a publicist.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and some people just have that it factor,
Speaker 2: you know. But it's funny because very early on, you
Speaker 2: get the publicists, you get the ship manager, and they
Speaker 2: tell you like, oh, you know, you want to make money. Now,
Speaker 2: you gotta twork, you gotta sell sex on the podcast,
Speaker 2: you gotta just say that you girls and guys, and
Speaker 2: so you eventually start to lose yourself in this fake
Speaker 2: entertainment world because they're intimidating you every day that you're
Speaker 2: gonna lose it all if you do not do what
Speaker 2: they tell you to do instead of standing ten toes down.
Speaker 2: But that intimidation changes you as a person.
Speaker 1: It's fame a drug because I believe something. I believe
Speaker 1: it is. I believe it's suffocating. I believe it can
Speaker 1: be intoxicated and people once and once you become hooked
Speaker 1: on it, you'll do anything to keep it.
Speaker 2: Maybe for some people, not for me. I don't give
Speaker 2: it about being famous.
Speaker 1: You famous, now famous?
Speaker 2: You cannot be famous, No, you can't be on famous.
Speaker 2: But yeah I don't. I mean I don't actively do things.
Speaker 1: To you know, to be in the publics. Just like
Speaker 1: look at the Amber Road, look at what you're doing,
Speaker 1: look at what you's wing.
Speaker 2: Really quiet? Yeah, like I'm really quiet with my So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, money, what have you learned about money?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Lord?
Speaker 2: Just save save? Say say I remember I spent my
Speaker 2: first million and I gagged because I was like, what did.
Speaker 1: You spend it on?
Speaker 2: Going to Miami Fountain, blue partying, bottles, outfits, clothes, shoes, dumb,
Speaker 2: just a bunch of dumb. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: then I got a business manager, Like you need to
Speaker 2: pay taxes and I'm like what, So then I was
Speaker 2: like in the hole. It was like very early in
Speaker 2: my career. But I definitely never I didn't do that again.
Speaker 2: I definitely did not do that again.
Speaker 1: What's been what's your what's your best and worst purchases?
Speaker 2: My best and worst purchases. You know, when I had
Speaker 2: new money, I had like seven cars for no reason.
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: And now I have two cars? So yeah, I just
Speaker 2: I don't live the same way anymore. I'm more I
Speaker 2: save now and I think about things before I buy them.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna take this dress back and like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna exchange it for another dress when I have another interview,
Speaker 2: let us know so.
Speaker 1: We could make sure you take it back before we
Speaker 1: are entered.
Speaker 2: I put the little receipt in in my drawer next
Speaker 2: to the bed. I'm taking this shit right back.
Speaker 1: It's Lord, have mercy. What's the number one thing that
Speaker 1: you learned in entertainment business?
Speaker 2: No one genuinely likes you. They just use you for
Speaker 2: They just use you for what they need you for. Really,
Speaker 2: it's not real life.
Speaker 1: No, do you really believe that, Amber?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that for a fact. Yeah, No, one
Speaker 2: genuinely cares like it a transactional hunh Yeah, at your
Speaker 2: lowest point that they don't give up. It's like, when
Speaker 2: are you gonna get better so we can get you
Speaker 2: to do what we want you to do?
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, let me ask you this, if you could
Speaker 1: go back and do anything differently, what would you do.
Speaker 2: Being famous?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can go back and do anything of
Speaker 1: your life, you go back. If I say, am, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go back. You can get the time machine and you
Speaker 1: can go back, and you can do get a do over.
Speaker 1: What would you do?
Speaker 2: That's such a hard question, Shannon. I would appreciate my
Speaker 2: children as babies more because it flew by so fast.
Speaker 2: And my Sebastian, he's gonna be twelve tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Wow, congrats that barely birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow. And then my son is five,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, you guys would just send
Speaker 2: my belly like what happened?
Speaker 1: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just so it makes me sad sometimes I wish
Speaker 2: I I wish I understood that that first, second, and
Speaker 2: third year was going to go by so fast.
Speaker 1: What do you learn about mixing business and friendship. I
Speaker 1: don't do that, you never have, or you don't do
Speaker 1: it anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I guess going back to your question, yes
Speaker 2: I have, and it always turned bad and I always
Speaker 2: had to kind of break up with them and be like,
Speaker 2: I love you as a friend, so to not mess
Speaker 2: up our friendship. We cannot work together?
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, how did they take it?
Speaker 2: Some better than others, But we remain friends after.
Speaker 1: It was friends stealing from you to steal jewelry, money
Speaker 1: and even slept with your boyfriends. You have people you had?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh hello, on hold on time. I so
Speaker 1: you got people.
Speaker 2: I told you all the well my men after they
Speaker 2: had me Shanon, It's weird. It's like kind of lesbian ish.
Speaker 1: So does that make you say, ain't they were never
Speaker 1: your friend? If they were willing to do something like
Speaker 1: this to you?
Speaker 2: You were never my friend. You never cared about me,
Speaker 2: you never hear about me. You were this is what
Speaker 2: you always wanted to do. And I truly believe that.
Speaker 2: And I will never talk to these people ever again
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: How much money they steal from you? They were a
Speaker 1: large summer money like five ten, two.
Speaker 2: Hundred fifty thousand HM yep, and then fled to Jamaica
Speaker 2: and you ain't.
Speaker 1: Seen the sins. Nope. Did you want to get over
Speaker 1: there and go to Jamaican and get them? You know?
Speaker 2: I did, Lord have hold on.
Speaker 1: Did you have a friend call Social service on you?
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. I mean someone did call Social
Speaker 2: services on me. Yes, it was not my friend.
Speaker 1: Though people be doing you wrong?
Speaker 2: Huh twice twice on me. I mean I obviously got
Speaker 2: cleared both times.
Speaker 1: Did you know that person?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I knew them very well, so they were friends.
Speaker 2: They just tried to hurt me in a way where
Speaker 2: I will never forgive them for that.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to forgive amber, because forgiveness
Speaker 1: is not for them, it's for you who said that.
Speaker 1: Because you're holding on to it, you can't be free.
Speaker 1: They can never be free without They can never be
Speaker 1: freedom without forgetting.
Speaker 2: They didn't think about them until you bring them up
Speaker 2: or I see them on the streets. I don't think
Speaker 2: about them. It's not like I'm sitting all day thinking
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 1: No. No, but that's there's still there's still a little
Speaker 1: bit of bondage that you're still in captivity with it.
Speaker 2: It's just how I'm built me over.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 2: I won't hate you forever.
Speaker 1: You're in School of Dance with Kat Williams, Mike Ems,
Speaker 1: Tiffany HAIs, Pete Davis in a Little Duval Nick Cannon.
Speaker 1: I was that experience.
Speaker 2: It was super fun. It was so much fun. You know,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I was pregnant with Sebastian on set and
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it yet. Really yeah, because I
Speaker 2: remember my son McCurtain and I was cramping and I'm like,
Speaker 2: the hell is going on? And then I found out
Speaker 2: I was I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you want to act more?
Speaker 2: I do want to act more? Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: actually just had a meeting with an agent yesterday to
Speaker 2: do more acting. It's pretty fun.
Speaker 1: I'm asking this, what type of mother is Ambarrose? So
Speaker 1: when say you're an unbelievable mother, he spoke glowingly, he spoke.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I've ever had somebody
Speaker 1: on here speak so highly of wild ranch'all stay married.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're better as friends, yes, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: what type of mother are you?
Speaker 2: I am an extremely hands on mother. I get up
Speaker 2: every morning and take my children to school. I feed
Speaker 2: them every morning. I picked them up from school, I
Speaker 2: cook them dinner every day, and I take them to
Speaker 2: their extra curricular activities. I do not have a nanny.
Speaker 2: I've never had a nanny. Really, Nope. My kids wouldn't
Speaker 2: even know what to do with a nanny. They'll be like,
Speaker 2: where's my mama. They don't. They're only used to me.
Speaker 1: In a situation. I read somewhere they say, what you
Speaker 1: craved as a child, you overcompensate as a parent.
Speaker 2: Maybe, so that actually makes sense And I never thought
Speaker 2: about that until you said that. That's maybe why I'm
Speaker 2: that type of mother.
Speaker 1: What type of boys are you trying to raise? Because
Speaker 1: you like you, You are definitely a mom. You're a
Speaker 1: boy mom, Yes i am.
Speaker 2: I'm also militant imitant.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're strict parent.
Speaker 2: You think Whizz is a strict parent, Like, okay, whatever
Speaker 2: you want to do. But yeah, yeah, I'm the strict
Speaker 2: parent for sure.
Speaker 1: You feel you have to be that because the dads
Speaker 1: are not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just pushovers. Yeah, both of my kids dads
Speaker 2: are pushovers. I'm the disciplinary one for sure, so they
Speaker 2: have to well, not so much Slash because he's five,
Speaker 2: but Sebastian has to make his bad wash dishes. You know,
Speaker 2: we have a housekeeper five days a week. But I said,
Speaker 2: Victoria works for me, She don't work for you. You
Speaker 2: need to clean this up? Wow, she cleans up for me.
Speaker 2: She don't clean up for you. You don't have a job.
Speaker 2: Clean all this up. Put this stuff in there, take
Speaker 2: the trash out, and wash the dishes.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So he needs to know that so when he gets
Speaker 2: out on his own, he don't have to depend on
Speaker 2: anyone to take care of him.
Speaker 1: What's the key to being a great co parent? Because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you have two sons, two different dads,
Speaker 1: and so obviously, like I said, I had Weizon and
Speaker 1: he seems really really cool. But I'm sure your youngest
Speaker 1: son's dad they probably have different personalities, and the way
Speaker 1: you interact with one, you don't interact the way the
Speaker 1: same way with the other. The other co parent, So
Speaker 1: what's the key to co parenting?
Speaker 2: The key is to not worry about anything but your child. Okay,
Speaker 2: once you talk about you got my son around that bit,
Speaker 2: why he over here doing that? You took a picture
Speaker 2: over here with None of that matters. If your baby
Speaker 2: is safe and fed and happy and healthy, don't bother
Speaker 2: nobody with that dumb ass shit. Just be a parent,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 1: Should a woman try to live a lifestyle once the
Speaker 1: guy's gone, that she lived with the guy if they
Speaker 1: were to have a kid together. So let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, you had the god was
Speaker 1: worth five hundred million. Y'all not married. So what do
Speaker 1: you think a respectable amount of monthly child support should be?
Speaker 2: It depends on how you want your child to live, right,
Speaker 2: So it depends on the man. If you're not going
Speaker 2: to see the child that much, right, if you're like
Speaker 2: busy and the child is with the mom. More often
Speaker 2: depends on how you want your child to live. You
Speaker 2: can't spite the mom because I'm saying spite the child
Speaker 2: because you at the mom. That's not cool. So it's
Speaker 2: like that's she's not finna live off my money, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But now you're spiting the child because now
Speaker 2: the child don't have a backyard or a swing set
Speaker 2: or amenities that you could bring with your money just
Speaker 2: because you want to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, and I don't really know
Speaker 1: a whole lot of kids that need fifty thousand, hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: I love this a lot of money, that's very loud. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of money. Yeah yeah. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I never took my baby daddy's to court.
Speaker 1: They just break you off, do it. They do what
Speaker 1: dad should do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: Do you think sometimes women actually try to get pregnant
Speaker 1: from men? Yes, that's a real thing. Yes, you've had
Speaker 1: girlfriends say, oh, I'm trying to Hey, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: have girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Lie about abortions to get money to get to act
Speaker 2: like they're pregnant. Yes, it's disgusting. This is why I
Speaker 2: stopped my slut walk by the way. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: why I'm no longer a feminist because I all the
Speaker 2: dark side of what women can do. And I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here feeling slighted by men, and then I'm fighting for equality,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, the only.
Speaker 3: Equality is that you either you are crazy, y'all are
Speaker 3: really you guys are extorting men, lying about pregnancies, saying
Speaker 3: you're on birth control when you're not to trap them,
Speaker 3: you know, And I mean not to sound vulgar, but
Speaker 3: if a man comes inside of you and you say
Speaker 3: that you're on birth control.
Speaker 2: He trusts you. Stup that you would trap him like that.
Speaker 1: You don't do that to people, And that probably should
Speaker 1: have been his first mistake that he trusted someone. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, could you teach me? After talking to you,
Speaker 1: You're like, don't trust nobody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't trust nobody. I don't. I
Speaker 2: really don't trust nobody.
Speaker 1: We as told me, like after you got the day
Speaker 1: you got a divorce, you and him went to the
Speaker 1: Script club. Yeah, y'all we can't be together, but come on, baby,
Speaker 1: let's go to the spill club. Get some ways.
Speaker 2: That's my dog. That's my dog.
Speaker 1: And he said, you know what, I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: get you know, I just give her the money, let
Speaker 1: her do her thing. I was like, Whiz, think about
Speaker 1: what you said. You said you and Amber y'all went
Speaker 1: to court, y'all got a divorce. Come on, baby, let
Speaker 1: go to this club.
Speaker 2: We just cool like that.
Speaker 1: He said it. He said, we're so much better as
Speaker 1: friends than we were husband and wife.
Speaker 2: Also, in our defense, Wiz was twenty three when he
Speaker 2: proposed to me. I was like twenty six. We were
Speaker 2: very immature. We were just getting money. Our families were
Speaker 2: just like, what you got this money? He got that?
Speaker 2: Our families up our marriage. Really gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: What happened? His mom didn't like you, Your mom didn't
Speaker 1: like him.
Speaker 2: I mean just everybody just couldn't mind business. And then
Speaker 2: me and him start arguing because our family is intimidating
Speaker 2: us and just making it hard where we could have
Speaker 2: just been happy and peaceful. You know, it just wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't. If we would have gotten married later in life,
Speaker 2: it would have been much easier because he really is
Speaker 2: my best friend. They we're cool as hell. It was
Speaker 2: just the wrong time.
Speaker 1: Can you have done a better job of keeping them
Speaker 1: my y'all? Damn business?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but we when you're that young and you
Speaker 2: got so much money coming in on both sides, and
Speaker 2: then you got a brand new baby and you got
Speaker 2: the mama telling you, well, this is how y'all raised you.
Speaker 2: And then my mom was like, well with this, and
Speaker 2: then she's saying this and that, and then it's just like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you need to tell her to stop
Speaker 2: saying this. And he's like, well, you need to get
Speaker 2: your other side of the family, and it's just a
Speaker 2: whole mess. It's a whole mess.
Speaker 1: Are you partnering with Khalifa and Khalifa cush correct? Are
Speaker 1: you partners?
Speaker 2: I wish I was giving my five percents.
Speaker 1: I've always I had had no idea. I mean when
Speaker 1: we started started Club Shasha CJ my executive producer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never thought a lot of people that I'm sitting
Speaker 1: down with because the way we started is that I
Speaker 1: just reached in my phone and I just reached out
Speaker 1: to people that I had in my phone. So I
Speaker 1: never had any idea. But I've always said, man, I
Speaker 1: want to ask Amberroll, why do here you get a
Speaker 1: tattooed on your full head? What does that even mean?
Speaker 1: I wanted to you couldn't put it on your back,
Speaker 1: your arm, your thigh.
Speaker 2: I mean, Shannon, not to get dark, because this conversation
Speaker 2: is very happy. I just never had a problem with
Speaker 2: depression and anxiety. I always been a ball of sunshine.
Speaker 2: And you know, I had a baby and the pandemic
Speaker 2: hit and at all that happened, and then at the
Speaker 2: same time I found out my baby daddy was cheating
Speaker 2: on me. Our whole relationship, so it was a lot
Speaker 2: of hard pills of swallow and also trying to be
Speaker 2: a mother, and I had a six year old at
Speaker 2: the time, and just California shut.
Speaker 1: Down, California that the rest of the country didn't shut
Speaker 1: down like California did. California shut down.
Speaker 2: The California shut down. You almost like just could not
Speaker 2: leave your house, and everything was so scary in the news,
Speaker 2: and my newborn baby and my mind me up. And
Speaker 2: I got the tattoo because I felt like I just
Speaker 2: needed to feel something. I just needed to look in
Speaker 2: the mirror and see my kids. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: I was just I was in a very dark place.
Speaker 2: And I also I didn't I didn't want to feel beautiful.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to feel pretty. I just kind of
Speaker 2: wanted myself up a little bit. Damn if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, I mean at the time, I mean I'm listening
Speaker 1: at you, and you're telling me what you're going through
Speaker 1: and that you didn't want to feel pretty. And you
Speaker 1: get a tattoo, and obviously it's where everybody's going to
Speaker 1: be able to see it. Put it in a place,
Speaker 1: and like I said, I ask you, and I don't
Speaker 1: mean to be disrespectful or anything like that, So I apologize,
Speaker 1: But so you had postpartum?
Speaker 2: Yes? Why have postpartum? Because my entire relationship was a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, And I just was he seeing
Speaker 2: share at the time?
Speaker 1: Was that was the one he was?
Speaker 2: He was seeing everybody. I don't think he was seeing Share,
Speaker 2: but he was definitely seeing everybody.
Speaker 1: How do you not know? You say you had intuition?
Speaker 2: How do you not know you you have cloudy judgment
Speaker 2: when you're pregnant? Oh okay, But it's also like, how
Speaker 2: you gonna cheat on me when I'm pregnant? You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not feel to cheat back. At least play a
Speaker 2: fair fight, cheat on me when I get my body back. No,
Speaker 2: I don't do that. Okay, what am I going to
Speaker 2: get your friends to make you mad? I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do that. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, someone do that now?
Speaker 2: I'm not that Why that's so dumb, That's so stupid. No,
Speaker 2: not doing that. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You have any more taxi? You got one of your
Speaker 1: thumb It used to.
Speaker 2: Say Cam because what's his name was? Cameron? Uh huh,
Speaker 2: Well his name is Cameron. But I turned it into
Speaker 2: pain because he broke my heart worse than anyone could
Speaker 2: ever bring behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was gonna say that, Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to have I don't know how guy's
Speaker 1: gonna let you have somebody else's name on them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I turned it into pain.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how many tattoos do you have? You have
Speaker 1: seed the too in your forehead or see the thumb.
Speaker 2: I'm fully sleeved.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, what made How were you forgot your first tattoo?
Speaker 2: I was young?
Speaker 1: Did you always want tatts?
Speaker 2: I wanted to be ball headed with shades and I
Speaker 2: wanted to be tatted. Really yep, yep, this is all premeditated, Shannon,
Speaker 2: This is all premeditated, And this is how I wanted
Speaker 2: to look.
Speaker 1: I see what Pete Davidson just had all his tattoos removed.
Speaker 1: I think that's the cause out if it shortly sent
Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand dollars to have those tattoos. Would
Speaker 1: you ever think about having your tattoos removed?
Speaker 2: No, it's just too painful. Really, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: The removal is painful. Huh.
Speaker 2: The removal is more painful than the actually really yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Because I had my daughter. Uh,
Speaker 1: she got a tattoo without my permission and that ended
Speaker 1: up having to take hers she got it yeh shet Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh she was screaming. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you because but you can actually hear.
Speaker 1: You can smell the skin burning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell her that every week. Got it up listen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she talked about she wanted to be reread.
Speaker 3: How old you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had had headed down on arm. I mean
Speaker 1: had just like Rihanna.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she wouldn't be rereached.
Speaker 1: Funny I said, read, don't pay no bills up here.
Speaker 1: I love you reread, but that had to come up
Speaker 1: off there.
Speaker 2: Wait, how old you? You only have a daughter.
Speaker 1: I have two daughters and my son.
Speaker 2: How old are they?
Speaker 1: Thirty two and thirty one? How old are you share
Speaker 1: that I'll be fifty seven. Continue, give me a little trend.
Speaker 1: You WoT to give a little dread? Jordan, I feel
Speaker 1: like that k doc swimming pools, pour up, drink, headshot drink.
Speaker 1: They're not like us. Jordan did not like us. Y'all
Speaker 1: that right down. Serve your procedures breast reduction, lightful suctions,
Speaker 1: say like pegs bodox fillers face typed why you need
Speaker 1: to do all that?
Speaker 2: What you mean why not?
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying this is your body. I'll never tell you.
Speaker 2: I look the same. Yeah, but I'm just not aging.
Speaker 2: So what women do is they go and get these
Speaker 2: procedures done where they look different. They look like a
Speaker 2: different person. I don't want to look like a different person.
Speaker 1: I just want to a younger version on yourself. You said,
Speaker 1: what you want to look like a younger version of yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I just want to stay youthful.
Speaker 1: You do realize the objective is that once you it's
Speaker 1: the age because a lot of people have an appointment
Speaker 1: that they can't reschedule. What do you mean appointment that
Speaker 1: you can't reschedule? It's called death? Oh I mean, don't you?
Speaker 1: I mean, so how long? So you want to be
Speaker 1: you want to be sixty looking like this?
Speaker 2: I will be sixty looking like this.
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, that mercy. It's okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fine, it's fine. It is definitely okay.
Speaker 1: So all those procedures, I mean, you're like, man, that's.
Speaker 2: Really not a lot.
Speaker 1: It's up keep.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just maintenance. It's that's not a lot
Speaker 2: of trust me. I know girls they get a lot.
Speaker 2: I know guys that get their bodies done. What kind
Speaker 2: of body what they had six packs? They get all that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come on and it cuts in there. So what they
Speaker 2: do is they light boat suction around the muscle and
Speaker 2: it makes it cut like stick out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys doing that now, Yes, they won't. Well, some
Speaker 2: is genetics. Some is genetics. And if you want the
Speaker 2: extra cuts, sometimes you need a little help. You go
Speaker 2: to doctor Matt Locke.
Speaker 1: Uh your angela Black China fondly noms black China. She
Speaker 1: got a breast and plants butt injection. She got all
Speaker 1: that stuff removed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good for her. Yes, she's happy. She seems
Speaker 2: very happy.
Speaker 1: She does seem very happy. Did you have a conversation
Speaker 1: with her, I mean she's sold talk all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but you know we're just in different We
Speaker 2: have different lifestyles, me and China. But that's my sister forever.
Speaker 1: Why do you think women are regretting some of the
Speaker 1: decisions that they made when they were younger. Sisa said
Speaker 1: she regrets getting her BBL as well. Why do you
Speaker 1: think women are starting to have those regrets ever.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because it's it's a style at
Speaker 2: the time, right to have just a big, old fat ass,
Speaker 2: and then you realize, you well, you go to the
Speaker 2: gym and you can't really run on the treadmill because
Speaker 2: your ass is heavy as hell, and then you want
Speaker 2: to go get it taken out, you know. So I
Speaker 2: mean I've done it. I got my butt done, and
Speaker 2: then I got everything taken out, right, So I got
Speaker 2: my butt done when it was in style, big stupid
Speaker 2: fat ass, and now I got it taken out?
Speaker 1: Is it hard for women to get to age gracefully?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm happy with aging. I just feel like, if
Speaker 2: you know, if I can get some boatoks or some
Speaker 2: you know, I really don't do much. What do I get?
Speaker 2: Do I get, like maybe a little filler right here
Speaker 2: and some boatos on my face? You think you can
Speaker 2: get some bowtok, I'm gonna take you some boatos. You
Speaker 2: need a little bit right here. You got a couple,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get rid of it.
Speaker 1: But I'm about to be fifty seven.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. It's just it's fine. You get a
Speaker 2: little botox and then it just smooths it out. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go do it for free.
Speaker 1: It's fine, Oh Lord, have mercy. But but why is it?
Speaker 1: It seems to be a double stand that men men
Speaker 1: can age gracefully. Yeah, oh you look so good. We
Speaker 1: love the salt and pepper, blah blah blah, but women.
Speaker 1: Because it's like men, men can get to age like
Speaker 1: be fifty five, sixty, seventy and still appeal to like
Speaker 1: the high twenties, thirties, year old, thirty young forties, women
Speaker 1: not so much have now some like you and your situation.
Speaker 1: You being who you are a You're gonna always be
Speaker 1: able to appeal to basically from nineteen to your age,
Speaker 1: even nineteen.
Speaker 2: Be honest, it's not easy. I do go to the
Speaker 2: gym five days a week, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I do drink a lot of water. I don't drink
Speaker 2: alcohol like that maybe a special occasion some.
Speaker 1: There. Do you watch what you eat?
Speaker 2: I eat in moderation, okay? So I am. I am
Speaker 2: from Philly, So I do like my cheese steaks and
Speaker 2: my fork sandwiches and stuff like that. But instead of
Speaker 2: eating a whole one, I'll eat a half one, or
Speaker 2: instead of having fries with it, I won't have no fries.
Speaker 2: I'll just drink of water versus a root beer because
Speaker 2: I love root beer. But yeah, I just mix it up,
Speaker 2: mix and match it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been body shamed? Do women bodies? Do
Speaker 1: people body shait? Not just say women, but do you
Speaker 1: get body shamed?
Speaker 2: I did, especially like after I had my kids and
Speaker 2: I was still fat, you know, but I didn't give
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. Twice. I was just like,
Speaker 2: I'm fluffy because my kids have to lay on me
Speaker 2: and breast me, and I don't care. I'll go to
Speaker 2: the gym and I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Why are women so hard on each other on social media?
Speaker 1: Is it really like this in real life? Or women
Speaker 1: really this hard on each other and normally forget social
Speaker 1: media take that out. Have women always been this hard
Speaker 1: on each other? Have y'all always been your toughest critics?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: this is kind of like frowned upon, but like I
Speaker 2: usually hang out with guys, I don't hang out with
Speaker 2: girls like that. And the girls that I do hang
Speaker 2: out with, they're very confident. If you're insecure around me,
Speaker 2: it kids are like me, you're mixed, and I said, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not. You're a Puerto Rican. Both of your parents
Speaker 2: are Puerto Rican. Generationally, down the line, the blacks and
Speaker 2: whites mixed and then you became Puerto Rican. I understand
Speaker 2: the history, right. The difference between me and you is
Speaker 2: that I have a white parent and I have a
Speaker 2: black parent. It's a whole different culture. As sist, you
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, so stop telling me
Speaker 2: who I am. And then she was like, you know
Speaker 2: what your problem is. You just want to be white.
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, So I just get up and
Speaker 2: I'm quiet, and I gotta walk past her desk to
Speaker 2: get out the classroom, and she went like this, and
Speaker 2: I was like what And I hit her with like
Speaker 2: a six This is like a six piece, y'all. She
Speaker 2: has a history of violence. What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: You're gonna bully me and then beat me up? Are
Speaker 2: you done? I'm never gonna let you do that to me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get off first and now. And my both
Speaker 2: my mom and dad was like, that's right, that's what
Speaker 2: you do. And my dad was like, you always get
Speaker 2: the first, always. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How difficult was it going up by racial in the
Speaker 1: nineties in South Philly.
Speaker 2: It was interesting for sure.
Speaker 1: Well maybe actually like what late eighties.
Speaker 2: It was the nineties. It was the nineties. Yeah, for
Speaker 2: sure the nineties, and like I started first grade in
Speaker 2: ninety one, okay, So it was definitely interesting because it's
Speaker 2: like the Italian and Irish out there, so they're like
Speaker 2: a different kind of racist sometimes. But I would like
Speaker 2: have before I really even thought about race, I would
Speaker 2: have a crush on like an Italian boy or an
Speaker 2: Irish boy, and then they would like see my mom
Speaker 2: and they would be like, you know, call me like
Speaker 2: the hard r and I'm like, it's kind of crazy,
Speaker 2: like you know, and then and then or they would
Speaker 2: see my mom and they'd be like, damn, I just
Speaker 2: I had no idea, or I thought you were white, right,
Speaker 2: or well if your dad's white, then you're white, but
Speaker 2: if your mom's black, then you're black. And it was
Speaker 2: always like I had to just pick a side all
Speaker 2: the time. So I think that was one of my
Speaker 2: frustrations with Johnslyn, like I'm at the time, thirty nine
Speaker 2: years old, are we really doing this? Like are you
Speaker 2: that stupid that we really have to go I have
Speaker 2: to go through this at thirty nine years old. It's insane.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, do you hate that you felt like you
Speaker 1: needed to pick a side that I needed I got.
Speaker 1: Why can't I just love both of my parents? The
Speaker 1: one is black, one is white. Why can't I embrace?
Speaker 1: Why do I have to choose a side? Why do
Speaker 1: I got to choose the Caucasian side of my family?
Speaker 1: Why do I have to choose the black side of
Speaker 1: my family? Why can't I just embrace and be an
Speaker 1: embodiment of it all?
Speaker 2: That's my whole point. I always felt like that my
Speaker 2: whole life.
Speaker 1: But you felt that each side wanted you to choose,
Speaker 1: not my people.
Speaker 2: People on the outside of my family.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say you're outside forces wanted you to
Speaker 1: choose you black, Say I'm black. Black power right on.
Speaker 2: But it's like the one drop rule comes from white supremacy.
Speaker 2: It comes from Jim crow eraror where white enslavers would
Speaker 2: rape black slaved women and had their they would have
Speaker 2: their kids, and they'd be like, oh, one drop, you're
Speaker 2: still slave. You know, it comes from white supremacy. There
Speaker 2: is no reason why I have to feel bad that
Speaker 2: I have a white dad and white family members. That
Speaker 2: I love and I have to just say I'm black
Speaker 2: because the one drop rule is insane, right, And I
Speaker 2: love that I have my white uncles that introduced me
Speaker 2: to Pantera and Metallica and System of a Down and
Speaker 2: Leonard skinnerd and all these all that that's a part
Speaker 2: of my culture because of my white uncles. And then
Speaker 2: my mom's side is you know, the Anita Baker, Luther
Speaker 2: Vandros four Tops, Temptations, Teddy Pandagra. That is who I am.
Speaker 2: So somebody like Jocelyn bitch, You're not gonna just tell
Speaker 2: me who I am.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Why do you think
Speaker 1: Drake Drake receives so much hate? Do you think it's
Speaker 1: because he's bibracial?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he embraces his Jewish side so much that
Speaker 2: it pisses people off.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the people that are profited
Speaker 1: off for being in black spaces? You got a problem
Speaker 1: with that? Are you okay with that?
Speaker 2: That confuses me. I'm gonna tell you why, because you
Speaker 2: cannot blame you have to blame the consumer at that point. Right,
Speaker 2: So when people are like Amber, You're famous for no reason,
Speaker 2: it's like maybe, but you have to blame the consumer.
Speaker 2: You can't blame me, blame the people that buy into
Speaker 2: what I'm selling. Right, Yes, So if somebody like Drake
Speaker 2: or me is within black culture and we're biracial, why
Speaker 2: are you mad at us? We love y'all, you know,
Speaker 2: and we love white people too. And there's black people
Speaker 2: that aren't good, and there's white people that aren't good.
Speaker 2: There's bad people in every race, and there's good people
Speaker 2: in every race. So you don't talk about people as
Speaker 2: a monolith. That's unfair, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: to benefit off of black culture is crazy. I hate
Speaker 2: when I see that, right because it's like you're not
Speaker 2: actively going into too. You're like, like me, I'm bi racial,
Speaker 2: like me, I'm Drake's is making rap music and it's
Speaker 2: really good. So people like it, like they buy it
Speaker 2: by it.
Speaker 1: Tyler caught a lot of backlash when she identified herself
Speaker 1: as black and a colored woman. She's being obviously she's
Speaker 1: South Africa. What's going on?
Speaker 2: People are called color in South Africa.
Speaker 1: Colored.
Speaker 2: There's a different culture over there. People in the US.
Speaker 1: They used to call you that. You call you that
Speaker 1: and fel doing you know, Yeah, filvil rising and the film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, pre eighteen sixties, definitely they were called colored.
Speaker 1: They call you negro.
Speaker 2: But it has a negative conversation here in America because
Speaker 2: of American history. It's not the same as South Africa.
Speaker 2: So when she says that people are up in arms,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean the same thing over here that
Speaker 2: it does over there.
Speaker 1: You've been participating in Travis Scott's annual HBCU Celebrity Classic.
Speaker 1: What's your relationship with Tramp? You're cool, y'all. Obviously you're
Speaker 1: cool because you go damn there every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just I don't know, it's just super cool.
Speaker 2: He invited me one year, which is crazy because I
Speaker 2: don't talk to Travis Scott until the game is coming up,
Speaker 2: like in February, and I'm like, yo, bro, like what
Speaker 2: are we doing this year? Like how many outfits should
Speaker 2: I bring? Is like after after party, and then I
Speaker 2: won't I probably won't talk to him till next February.
Speaker 1: Amber, I don't know. I was debating. You caught a
Speaker 1: lot of flat because you supported President Trump, your pilog
Speaker 1: using and say, look, I like talking religion, I like
Speaker 1: talking politics. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with it.
Speaker 1: And people like, we're going to cancel Amber Rolls because
Speaker 1: she wearing the red hat make America great again? What
Speaker 1: went into your and Wiz said, you know, talking to Wiz,
Speaker 1: he says, look, if that's what you believe, do you,
Speaker 1: why are you worried about what everybody else thinking? Do you?
Speaker 1: What made you decide to say, you know what? This
Speaker 1: to who I believe is the best candidate, This to
Speaker 1: who I believe, this is, who embodies basically what I
Speaker 1: believe in, This, who I'm supporting. What went into your
Speaker 1: thought process? You knew that you was gonna catch some criticism,
Speaker 1: You're gonna catch some blowback and flat, but you did
Speaker 1: it anyway. What went into that decision?
Speaker 2: I just felt like he was the best for our country?
Speaker 2: And why not use my platform to say that? First
Speaker 2: and foremost. Second of all, no one can ever cancel me.
Speaker 2: Only I can cancel me.
Speaker 1: Right? Is there anything you want to promote? You got
Speaker 1: anything coming out? You got a book, you got cosmetics
Speaker 1: or anything you want to promote?
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