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Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway?

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Speaker 1: Age limit? Is there an age limit for you on dating?

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Speaker 1: Is this? Is there an age like you're like, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be this age and you can't be over that age?

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Speaker 2: So is there a Shannon, I'm gonna be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: these twenty two year olds are on my body.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can believe it.

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Speaker 2: And it's so. And I'm like old enough to be

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Speaker 2: your mama. Like I'm forty one years old. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't even like girls my age. A da da dah.

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Speaker 2: They immature very yeah, yeah, and immature for sure. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying that's that's not my thing, right, But I

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Speaker 2: mean there's some little cutie pies, but they're young as hell.

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Speaker 1: So you say you're forty one, so if they're like

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Speaker 1: at least has to be at least thirty and then

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Speaker 1: I'm not a going above fifty. So is there like

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Speaker 1: thirty and fifty that's my that's my demo? Or is

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Speaker 1: it thirty sixty that's my demo? What's what's what's the demo?

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Speaker 2: What's the It depends. It depends on the man. It depends. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because if I if I really like love you or

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Speaker 2: I like you. I'm the one that I'm the one

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Speaker 2: to have sex all day. So you can't be too old?

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Speaker 2: Were you that you can't? You gotta be able to

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Speaker 2: hands with me because I'm in my prime right now.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I did say I wasn't gonna yees listen.

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Speaker 1: Joan, check my bang over there. Join. But you call

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Speaker 1: criticism when you dated Savage? I think he was twenty four.

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Speaker 1: You were thirty three.

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Speaker 2: Is that nine years? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that? Is that the is that the biggest

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Speaker 1: age discrepancy as far as you being older? Amber? Let

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Speaker 1: me find out you're passing out now, ladies and Jolly.

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Speaker 2: Ranch got no again.

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Speaker 1: I mean guys like what they like?

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Speaker 2: These young boys shed it. I mean, you know, after

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Speaker 2: a while you just say.

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Speaker 1: You know, like we were and when I was when

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Speaker 1: I was in high school and the teacher didn't look

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Speaker 1: like they look now. I'm what I'm saying. When you

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Speaker 1: found when you had one teacher that you like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here you are, like twelve thirteen and she's like

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Speaker 1: twenty five, You're like, wow, man, I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get so I guess yeah, I can. I can see guys.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I think that's what happened with

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Speaker 2: girls my age, right, These young boys watched us for

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Speaker 2: a long time and now they're old enough to pursue

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Speaker 2: us and date us, and that's why they're on us

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Speaker 2: like that. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You see the situation. And I think she got more

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Speaker 1: criticism than you, Drea Michelle and Jalen Green. I think she.

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Speaker 1: I think her oldest son is actually the same age

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Speaker 1: is Jalen Green? And you know, and you know, Jayleen's

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Speaker 1: grown and people are like, well, you know, groom, she

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Speaker 1: didn't meet the kid when he was seven. Bro, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on now, Yeah, I don't know if you know her,

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Speaker 1: but what do you think about that situation?

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Speaker 2: I one, I think to each his own, and he

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Speaker 2: is a grown man, correct. I think that the outrage

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Speaker 2: is more so that her son was the same age

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Speaker 2: my son, my oldest is twelve. So if my oldest

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Speaker 2: was twenty two, I may feel different as a mother

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Speaker 2: talking to a twenty two year old. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. But for me to talk

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Speaker 2: to a twenty two year old, I don't really care.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't date them and be serious with them, but

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Speaker 2: I had my little fun and then I'll keep it moving,

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Speaker 2: you know. But I think that was the outrage. But

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Speaker 2: I think they look beautiful together and have a baby together.

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Speaker 2: They seem happy, They seem very happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at al Pacino. Al Pacino's eighty three.

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Speaker 1: Uh he just had a baby and uh she was

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Speaker 1: twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I said too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good for her, but that might be a bit.

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Speaker 1: But that might be a bit bunch. Ever, that might

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Speaker 1: be a bit more.

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Speaker 2: How much is Albutineo worth?

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Speaker 1: Probably three hundred?

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Speaker 2: Well, good for her.

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Speaker 1: Well, he definitely he definitely ain't going all day, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully you know, she only scheduled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See yeah, See that's what I can't deal with.

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Speaker 2: I can't deal with. I can't deal with that. That's

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Speaker 2: too old for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean god, Lee, I mean, well, you have to

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Speaker 1: get somebody this twenty the early thirties, that's.

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Speaker 2: Not true medications.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, okay with the metter case you better

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Speaker 1: case you medter case, you better cass shot. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Roe Sparks. Let me ask you this. Yeah, when

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Speaker 1: someone shares dating your your youngest son's father, yes, you

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Speaker 1: you'll be okay, with like when when when other celebrities

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Speaker 1: date people that you once dated, you be okay with that?

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Speaker 1: You're like, try to you trying to beat me or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Do you do you get upset with it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you look at my track record,

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Speaker 2: all my exes dated, Babbage is after me. I was

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Speaker 2: their initial Babbage, right, and then Babbage is when to

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Speaker 2: date them because I dated them. That's just how the

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Speaker 2: game goes.

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Speaker 1: But they can't see you though, which you mean the

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Speaker 1: ones they dating now for you, ain't you? They try

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Speaker 1: to get they try to replace you.

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Speaker 2: If that's your opinion, I'll take it. I'm not finna

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Speaker 2: say that. Okay, you know, but God bless them. Look

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Speaker 2: when it comes to my children, as long as my

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Speaker 2: children are happy, I grew up with step parents. I

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Speaker 2: know how it is to have step parents, or my

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Speaker 2: mom was dating people and stuff like that. I don't

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Speaker 2: feel no type of way. As long as these women

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Speaker 2: are nice to my children, that's all I care about. Honestly.

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Speaker 2: All the other stuff is it means nothing to me.

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Speaker 1: But why do people try to get in a way

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Speaker 1: when someone is dating someone older, be it the man

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Speaker 1: dating a younger woman or the woman dating a younger man.

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Speaker 1: Why do people always try Why they can't just be

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Speaker 1: happy for him? I mean, that's not your life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why do you care? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, you know how the

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Speaker 2: internet is. They just everyone has an opinion. Everyone has

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Speaker 2: something to.

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Speaker 1: Say, but they think their opinion matters to it does not.

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Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you when I got canceled because I

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Speaker 2: endorse Donald Trump. Right when I'm out in the street,

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Speaker 2: I'm not canceled. Everybody still wants pictures. Everybody says to me,

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Speaker 2: I still go. Do you know charity softball games give

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Speaker 2: out autographs? Show up here there in the third You

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Speaker 2: would think it never even happened on the internet. So

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Speaker 2: the Internet is faked.

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Speaker 1: It's just a It's just a loud as. They make

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Speaker 1: the most noise it is. I had to learn that

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Speaker 1: in the hard way because I was thinking, because everybody's

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Speaker 1: had something negative to say Amber and I was like, damn.

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Speaker 1: But then my sister says, Shannon, do you think you

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Speaker 1: could be where you are on ESPN? You did? You

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Speaker 1: got Club Shashe, you got Nightcap, you got all these

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Speaker 1: sparks and advertisers. Do you actually think you could be

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Speaker 1: this if all these people hated you exactly, and once

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Speaker 1: you really think about.

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Speaker 2: It, No, everybody that can talk about you or meet

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Speaker 2: on the internet, when they see us, they would ask

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Speaker 2: us for a picture and they would be excited.

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Speaker 1: Not one person I've met in the last three years

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Speaker 1: since I've been on my own have ever said anything

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's all fake. It's all fake outrage.

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Speaker 2: And you sit at home and you read it and

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Speaker 2: you're just like consumed with it. You get all nervous,

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Speaker 2: and then you go out. You're like, no one really

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Speaker 1: Give me some relationship advice. What's the best relationship advice

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Speaker 1: you can give me? Am, I'm hurt right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: hurt right now. Oh pull, hustle hard up.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to get somebody back.

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Speaker 1: Hell, I might be trying to get somebody.

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Speaker 2: You trying to get somebody. I would say, be a genuine,

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Speaker 2: a genuine person, don't be a liar, don't be a

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Speaker 2: love bomber. Spend some money. Girls like money, Shannon.

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Speaker 1: They do. Yes, I'll hustle. I ain't got it like that.

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Speaker 1: You got it like that?

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Speaker 2: You've been you you got had club shase shape for

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Speaker 2: three years. Yeah. If you have money, you gotta spend

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Speaker 2: money on girls. If you want an upper echelon type

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Speaker 2: of girl, you have to spend money much enough, nothing crazy,

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Speaker 2: but you got you gotta take the girls shopping. You

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Speaker 2: gotta be like yo.

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Speaker 1: I was, no, okay, you do not.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about you. I bought you a Chanel

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Speaker 2: bag or a burkin. I just think channel bag is fine.

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Speaker 2: Early on it is fine.

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Speaker 1: They started like twelve fifteen hour.

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Speaker 2: Chanel bags do too, though sheel bags are up there

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Speaker 2: as well. All I'm Shannon, No, you got it. Don't

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Speaker 2: sit here and act like that. Don't be cheap. Girls

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Speaker 2: don't like that. You got to spend that money.

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Speaker 1: Man, I might have to put two ends in ch nail.

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Speaker 2: You don't get it from what's that website? The Ta

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Speaker 2: moved or Ali Baba.

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Speaker 1: Public breakups? You know you date public? You got to

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Speaker 1: break up public and it's bad. Yeah, and it's really

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Speaker 1: bad now between CARTI and Offset. If you're in a

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Speaker 2: I would not, but some people feel the need to. Why.

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Speaker 2: I also think I've been famous much longer than Cardi. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think when you're newly famous, you do feel like

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Speaker 2: you have to explain to the internet. So you I've

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Speaker 2: taken plenty of l's on the internet because I just

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Speaker 2: didn't explain myself. They've associated me with men that I

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Speaker 2: not going to sit here all day and dwell on this.

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Speaker 2: They're going to do it anyway whatever. But she she

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Speaker 2: feels the need that she has to defend herself, and

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Speaker 2: I'm actually not mad at it. Like I look back

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Speaker 2: and be like, damn, it's kind of inspiring that she

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Speaker 2: does that. I kind of wish I did that early on.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, when you and Kanye broke up, he

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Speaker 1: had something a song to say, and he says something

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Speaker 1: really negative about you, and I felt that he could

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Speaker 1: like that. He said that he had like something he

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Speaker 1: that didn't couldn't have made you feel good.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'll tell you something, Shannon. Men that are

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Speaker 2: in new relationships sometimes they have to say mean things

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Speaker 2: about their ex so their girlfriend. Their girlfriend doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: bad about it.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I am in the problem. I am in

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Speaker 2: Nobody tuk it down to somebody else it psychologically or like,

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Speaker 2: that's what they do so the girl can be like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: talk about her. So it makes me feel good. I'm

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Speaker 2: not an insecure If a man said that about his ex,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, you spent two years with her, You

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Speaker 2: took her all around the world, you brought her everything

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Speaker 2: she wanted. She knows your whole family his you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Amon is I called Emon to hook me up

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Speaker 2: and they're like everybody you know, it's just not what's

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, my beautiful, dark twisted fantasy album. Yeah that

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Speaker 2: You gotta ask him that.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he need to come on back, you know.

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Speaker 1: He didn't come back. He need to come to Amber Music.

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Speaker 1: He rescued you here, rescued.

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Speaker 1: When Kanye jumped up on that stage and took that

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, but at that moment, yeah,

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Speaker 1: To have something. I don't know if we've ever seen

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Speaker 2: It was the MTV Awards and.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't his place. It was if if Beyonce

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Speaker 1: I can live with that, but not him.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: What was the ride home? Be true?

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Speaker 1: So on the ride home was it quiet? It was like, damn, Kanye,

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Speaker 2: So I feel bad when I see things that he

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Speaker 2: you that's maternal in a way, that's gonna They're gonna

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Speaker 1: You know, do you believe he's a different person after

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Speaker 2: The pleasure of meeting his mom. I've met Kanye after

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Speaker 2: when I did get with Kanye, I knew how to

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't acting like that with me, Shannon. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: He wasn't doing that because I would sit him down

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Speaker 2: I don't think he has anybody around him that's really

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just loving on him, just loving on

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Speaker 1: When you see Kanye today, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Again? I think that he has enablers around him that

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Speaker 2: Is for her like that? Yeah? He did the same

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Speaker 1: Why is he like? I mean, obviously you're a very

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Speaker 1: What is it? What is it a about that that

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Speaker 2: That's what he's into. He likes that, he likes he

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I like to think anybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants all his friends doing his girlfriend. He

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Speaker 1: And she's the baddest be in the room.

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Speaker 2: That's what he likes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah m hm, And you dressed like that because that's

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Speaker 2: I was young, and who I'm gonna tell Kanye No,

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Speaker 2: Like when I'm that young, it's like, Okay, you're buying

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Speaker 2: I'm dating Kanye, but I'm out by myself, I have

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Speaker 2: all his clothes on. Yeah, I have a baggy jeans on,

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Speaker 1: So I ask you this, ideally, how does the amber

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Speaker 1: I'm going to dress appropriate. But when I'm in when

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Speaker 2: No, I'm in sweatpants and I'm in a sweatsuit usually

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Speaker 1: Would you? I mean I don't think you had you did?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. Amber I cried, really, yes I did.

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Speaker 2: and being like, I don't want to wear this. I

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Speaker 2: I still don't want to wear it, but I wind

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00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 2: up wearing it. They ate me up on the internet

435
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: and they ate me up and then.

436
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, the guys will try to eat you up.

437
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: To the guys. The guy loved it. The guy loved it.

438
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I really just don't.

439
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: Well, that's something you let as you look back, that

440
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: was many many years ago. It was if that was

441
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: something you do again. You never do anything like that again.

442
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: Do what were something like that? No, but that was

443
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: because that was prior kids. It was so you got

444
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: kids now, so you guys be like, nah, I got boys. No,

445
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: I can't do that.

446
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm actually on only fans, right, okay,

447
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: And so I know only fans has like this stigma

448
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: of like corn and right, I am on only fans.

449
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm doing cute pictures, selfies. I'm talking to my fans. Hey,

450
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: what are you doing today? Oh I'm going on Club

451
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Shadehay today. Make sure you tune in next week.

452
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: Blah blah.

453
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 2: That's my only fans. I make a lot of money

454
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: on only fans.

455
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Beat picks, No, I don't do feed No.

456
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: I mean everybody got their price. Yeah, somebody asked for

457
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: a feet pick. It depends on what they want to

458
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: pay outs and my feet who cares? But yes, because

459
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: I have children, there's certain things that I just will

460
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: not do because I respect and love my boys.

461
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: You're a model for Louis Baton Ford models Vogue Walk

462
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: to Run with at New York Fashion Week? How is

463
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: that world? What is it like to be a model?

464
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: Because I think you know what is is? What is

465
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: that world like? I would like to go to fashion

466
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: Week in Paris. I like to go sit down and

467
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: see a Tom Ford show or d or whatever the

468
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: case may be. I like to see one of those shows.

469
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: What what's that world like?

470
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: Ever, I personally don't like it. Really, It's not my thing, Shannon.

471
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: I'd rather have a barbecue with some loud music and

472
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: be with my friends and like dance and just have

473
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: a good time with no phones and just chill out.

474
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm that girl, right. Fashion week is very superficial. Although

475
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: I love brands.

476
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm wearing Baman, but I'm looking at the shoulder pass.

477
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's something I probably should know.

478
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, my adjusts. So don't get me wrong. I

479
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: like certain things within fashion, but I do not like

480
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: the fashion world. Most of the people are ugly. There's yeah,

481
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: there's ugly on the inside too. You know, they're just

482
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: ugly people on the inside. Because it's not about who

483
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: you are as a person, it's about what you have

484
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: on and only what you have on. So it becomes

485
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: very over there because no one is actually real. It's like,

486
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: what did you have to do to put this eight

487
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: thousand dollars outfit on? What did you have to do

488
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: to get that?

489
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: You know?

490
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: And that's all they care about out there, So it's

491
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: just not really my world.

492
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Wow, is modeling really a cut the business? It is?

493
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: It is very much. It's like every other business. It's

494
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: like depends on who and what what you know, what

495
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: connection you have is all the same, it's all the same.

496
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: Did you ever interact with Naomi Campbell? Tower Banks? Did

497
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: you ever meet They were a.

498
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: Little bit before you, way before me, like twenty years before.

499
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I got something because this seems to be like

500
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: the last year and a half, there's been all this

501
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: talk about these Hollywood parties.

502
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.

503
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: Ever, what's really going on?

504
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

505
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: You ain't up anybody to hard with.

506
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: I've been to probably everyone. I've been to every puff party.

507
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: I've been to every white party since two thousand and nine.

508
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: I've been to every party.

509
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: And you just going the wrong You go in the

510
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: right room, not the wrong room.

511
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't think there's rooms Chan, I'm gonna be honest. Now. Look,

512
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very, very transparent on the show. If

513
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: these freak offs are happening, it's on a completely different

514
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: day than the actual Puffy. It's not that day because

515
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: every time I was there, Puff was there the whole time.

516
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: You know, he's hey, you got the Sarah, he's on

517
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: the DJ booth, he's the host of the party. I

518
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: will say that now I've had this conversation with ray J.

519
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Rayge is one of my best friends. I said, ray

520
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: did they ever invite you to a freak golf? Because

521
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: they never invited me and I donet been at these parties.

522
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: I just feel like, why.

523
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Get the invite because I know you don't get down

524
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: like that.

525
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Maybe they know I don't get down like that. Okay, cool,

526
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: but you would think maybe an assistant would come up

527
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you like girls, or like, you

528
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: know you into Never no one ever asked me that.

529
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: They never asked ray J either, And me and ray

530
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: J was talking about it. We were like, i'dn't been

531
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: to the party, the after party, the after after party,

532
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: I've never seen none of that stuff. But that's not

533
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: to say that it does not happen or invalidate people that.

534
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: But I do think it's a different day that I'm

535
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: just not invited to. I don't know.

536
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: You think it's a plot because we saw it happened

537
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: with Russell Simmons. Now we see it happen with Pete Diddy,

538
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: and you think it is a plot or a ploy

539
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: to take down prominent hoigh powered black man.

540
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. It really depends on the evidence, right,

541
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: because they did say that there were drugs in the

542
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: baby oil. I don't know. That's a legend.

543
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: A thousand bottles of baby on.

544
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't know, because the Internet

545
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: is fake, Like you said earlier, you just don't know.

546
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: But if that is in fact true, then that that

547
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: is a problem. One thing I do know about Puff

548
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: is that he's an abuser. You know, he abused Cassie.

549
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: We all saw the videos. It is not okay. And

550
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: but as far as the freak offs, I don't know

551
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: about that. I just.

552
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: Did you have When I say relationship, I don't mean

553
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: intimate relationship. Did you have a relationship with Puff Daddy?

554
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: Where you cool? Did you talk? Did you know him?

555
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Things like that.

556
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: I would say that we didn't talk on the phone

557
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: and we didn't hang out, but I was always invited

558
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: to the party. Okay, and that's the extent of our friendship.

559
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, is it true that you were at the

560
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Halloween party that Puff's sons and ray J got into it?

561
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: I was, yes, I was right there.

562
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: What happened?

563
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: They just pressed ray J. They were just like, stop

564
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: talking about dad, and then ray J said what he said,

565
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: like something like I know your dad better than you

566
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: know your dad or something like that, and then it

567
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: just got ugly for a second. Yeah, because I'm cool

568
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: with Christian and Justin and Quincy, but then I also

569
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: love ray J. It's like my brother, and I'm just like, guys,

570
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: please just just stop. It's not worth it, y'all. Don't

571
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: want to do this, like so it, you know. And

572
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: I told ray Je, I said, look, that's their dad.

573
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: What do you expect them to do? Like of course

574
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: they're going to stand up for their dad, you know

575
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: what I mean?

576
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Like rightfully.

577
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: So.

578
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: But it's reported that breeze It Chris Brown was the peacemaker.

579
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Is that true?

580
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: I think I was the peace name that was you? Well,

581
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: from what I remember, I was going to both sides

582
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: and like, y'all don't need to do this. But maybe

583
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Chris came down at some point. It was in the garage.

584
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

585
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: What have you learned about thing? Oh, because you've had

586
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: more than fifteen minutes, you've had two decades of it.

587
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going on sixteen years. What have I learned

588
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: about fame? That half of these motherfuckers don't know what

589
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: they're doing. All the publicists, all the fake ass managers,

590
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: all the business managers, they all manipulate all of us

591
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: into thinking that they have all the answers when we

592
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: ourselves have the answers as the entertainers or the socialites

593
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: or the famous people. We got here because of us.

594
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Before a manager, before a publicist.

595
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and some people just have that it factor,

596
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: you know. But it's funny because very early on, you

597
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: get the publicists, you get the ship manager, and they

598
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: tell you like, oh, you know, you want to make money. Now,

599
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: you gotta twork, you gotta sell sex on the podcast,

600
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: you gotta just say that you girls and guys, and

601
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: so you eventually start to lose yourself in this fake

602
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: entertainment world because they're intimidating you every day that you're

603
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: gonna lose it all if you do not do what

604
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: they tell you to do instead of standing ten toes down.

605
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: But that intimidation changes you as a person.

606
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: It's fame a drug because I believe something. I believe

607
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: it is. I believe it's suffocating. I believe it can

608
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: be intoxicated and people once and once you become hooked

609
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: on it, you'll do anything to keep it.

610
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Maybe for some people, not for me. I don't give

611
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: it about being famous.

612
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: You famous, now famous?

613
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: You cannot be famous, No, you can't be on famous.

614
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: But yeah I don't. I mean I don't actively do things.

615
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: To you know, to be in the publics. Just like

616
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: look at the Amber Road, look at what you're doing,

617
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: look at what you's wing.

618
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: Really quiet? Yeah, like I'm really quiet with my So.

619
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, money, what have you learned about money?

620
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

621
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: Lord?

622
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Just save save? Say say I remember I spent my

623
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: first million and I gagged because I was like, what did.

624
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: You spend it on?

625
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Going to Miami Fountain, blue partying, bottles, outfits, clothes, shoes, dumb,

626
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: just a bunch of dumb. And then I was like,

627
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: then I got a business manager, Like you need to

628
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: pay taxes and I'm like what, So then I was

629
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: like in the hole. It was like very early in

630
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: my career. But I definitely never I didn't do that again.

631
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: I definitely did not do that again.

632
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: What's been what's your what's your best and worst purchases?

633
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: My best and worst purchases. You know, when I had

634
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: new money, I had like seven cars for no reason.

635
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: What?

636
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: And now I have two cars? So yeah, I just

637
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I don't live the same way anymore. I'm more I

638
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: save now and I think about things before I buy them.

639
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna take this dress back and like, I'm

640
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: gonna exchange it for another dress when I have another interview,

641
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: let us know so.

642
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: We could make sure you take it back before we

643
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: are entered.

644
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I put the little receipt in in my drawer next

645
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: to the bed. I'm taking this shit right back.

646
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: It's Lord, have mercy. What's the number one thing that

647
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: you learned in entertainment business?

648
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: No one genuinely likes you. They just use you for

649
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: They just use you for what they need you for. Really,

650
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: it's not real life.

651
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: No, do you really believe that, Amber?

652
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that for a fact. Yeah, No, one

653
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: genuinely cares like it a transactional hunh Yeah, at your

654
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: lowest point that they don't give up. It's like, when

655
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: are you gonna get better so we can get you

656
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: to do what we want you to do?

657
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, let me ask you this, if you could

658
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: go back and do anything differently, what would you do.

659
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Being famous?

660
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can go back and do anything of

661
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: your life, you go back. If I say, am, but

662
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to

663
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: go back. You can get the time machine and you

664
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: can go back, and you can do get a do over.

665
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: What would you do?

666
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: That's such a hard question, Shannon. I would appreciate my

667
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: children as babies more because it flew by so fast.

668
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: And my Sebastian, he's gonna be twelve tomorrow.

669
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Wow, congrats that barely birthday.

670
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, his birthday is tomorrow. And then my son is five,

671
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: and I was just like, you guys would just send

672
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: my belly like what happened?

673
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

674
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: I just so it makes me sad sometimes I wish

675
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: I I wish I understood that that first, second, and

676
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: third year was going to go by so fast.

677
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: What do you learn about mixing business and friendship. I

678
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: don't do that, you never have, or you don't do

679
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: it anymore.

680
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I guess going back to your question, yes

681
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: I have, and it always turned bad and I always

682
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: had to kind of break up with them and be like,

683
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: I love you as a friend, so to not mess

684
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: up our friendship. We cannot work together?

685
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, how did they take it?

686
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Some better than others, But we remain friends after.

687
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: It was friends stealing from you to steal jewelry, money

688
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: and even slept with your boyfriends. You have people you had?

689
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh hello, on hold on time. I so

690
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: you got people.

691
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: I told you all the well my men after they

692
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: had me Shanon, It's weird. It's like kind of lesbian ish.

693
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: So does that make you say, ain't they were never

694
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: your friend? If they were willing to do something like

695
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: this to you?

696
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: You were never my friend. You never cared about me,

697
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: you never hear about me. You were this is what

698
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: you always wanted to do. And I truly believe that.

699
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: And I will never talk to these people ever again

700
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: in my life.

701
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: How much money they steal from you? They were a

702
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: large summer money like five ten, two.

703
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Hundred fifty thousand HM yep, and then fled to Jamaica

704
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: and you ain't.

705
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Seen the sins. Nope. Did you want to get over

706
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: there and go to Jamaican and get them? You know?

707
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: I did, Lord have hold on.

708
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Did you have a friend call Social service on you?

709
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. I mean someone did call Social

710
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 2: services on me. Yes, it was not my friend.

711
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: Though people be doing you wrong?

712
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: Huh twice twice on me. I mean I obviously got

713
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: cleared both times.

714
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Did you know that person?

715
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

716
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: I knew them very well, so they were friends.

717
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 2: They just tried to hurt me in a way where

718
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: I will never forgive them for that.

719
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: You got to be able to forgive amber, because forgiveness

720
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: is not for them, it's for you who said that.

721
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: Because you're holding on to it, you can't be free.

722
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: They can never be free without They can never be

723
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: freedom without forgetting.

724
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: They didn't think about them until you bring them up

725
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: or I see them on the streets. I don't think

726
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: about them. It's not like I'm sitting all day thinking

727
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: about this.

728
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: No. No, but that's there's still there's still a little

729
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: bit of bondage that you're still in captivity with it.

730
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: It's just how I'm built me over.

731
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: I won't.

732
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: I won't hate you forever.

733
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: You're in School of Dance with Kat Williams, Mike Ems,

734
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Tiffany HAIs, Pete Davis in a Little Duval Nick Cannon.

735
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I was that experience.

736
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: It was super fun. It was so much fun. You know,

737
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I was pregnant with Sebastian on set and

738
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it yet. Really yeah, because I

739
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: remember my son McCurtain and I was cramping and I'm like,

740
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: the hell is going on? And then I found out

741
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: I was I was pregnant.

742
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you want to act more?

743
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: I do want to act more? Yeah, I think I

744
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: actually just had a meeting with an agent yesterday to

745
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: do more acting. It's pretty fun.

746
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm asking this, what type of mother is Ambarrose? So

747
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: when say you're an unbelievable mother, he spoke glowingly, he spoke.

748
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I've ever had somebody

749
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: on here speak so highly of wild ranch'all stay married.

750
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: He's like, we're better as friends, yes, but yeah, but

751
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: what type of mother are you?

752
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: I am an extremely hands on mother. I get up

753
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: every morning and take my children to school. I feed

754
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: them every morning. I picked them up from school, I

755
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: cook them dinner every day, and I take them to

756
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: their extra curricular activities. I do not have a nanny.

757
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: I've never had a nanny. Really, Nope. My kids wouldn't

758
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: even know what to do with a nanny. They'll be like,

759
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: where's my mama. They don't. They're only used to me.

760
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: In a situation. I read somewhere they say, what you

761
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: craved as a child, you overcompensate as a parent.

762
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: Maybe, so that actually makes sense And I never thought

763
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: about that until you said that. That's maybe why I'm

764
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: that type of mother.

765
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: What type of boys are you trying to raise? Because

766
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: you like you, You are definitely a mom. You're a

767
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: boy mom, Yes i am.

768
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm also militant imitant.

769
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you're strict parent.

770
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: You think Whizz is a strict parent, Like, okay, whatever

771
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: you want to do. But yeah, yeah, I'm the strict

772
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: parent for sure.

773
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: You feel you have to be that because the dads

774
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: are not.

775
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just pushovers. Yeah, both of my kids dads

776
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: are pushovers. I'm the disciplinary one for sure, so they

777
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: have to well, not so much Slash because he's five,

778
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: but Sebastian has to make his bad wash dishes. You know,

779
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: we have a housekeeper five days a week. But I said,

780
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: Victoria works for me, She don't work for you. You

781
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: need to clean this up? Wow, she cleans up for me.

782
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: She don't clean up for you. You don't have a job.

783
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: Clean all this up. Put this stuff in there, take

784
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: the trash out, and wash the dishes.

785
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: Wow.

786
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: You know.

787
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: So he needs to know that so when he gets

788
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: out on his own, he don't have to depend on

789
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: anyone to take care of him.

790
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: What's the key to being a great co parent? Because,

791
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: like you said, you have two sons, two different dads,

792
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: and so obviously, like I said, I had Weizon and

793
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: he seems really really cool. But I'm sure your youngest

794
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: son's dad they probably have different personalities, and the way

795
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: you interact with one, you don't interact the way the

796
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: same way with the other. The other co parent, So

797
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: what's the key to co parenting?

798
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: The key is to not worry about anything but your child. Okay,

799
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: once you talk about you got my son around that bit,

800
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: why he over here doing that? You took a picture

801
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: over here with None of that matters. If your baby

802
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: is safe and fed and happy and healthy, don't bother

803
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: nobody with that dumb ass shit. Just be a parent,

804
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: that's it.

805
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Should a woman try to live a lifestyle once the

806
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: guy's gone, that she lived with the guy if they

807
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: were to have a kid together. So let's just say,

808
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, you had the god was

809
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: worth five hundred million. Y'all not married. So what do

810
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: you think a respectable amount of monthly child support should be?

811
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: It depends on how you want your child to live, right,

812
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: So it depends on the man. If you're not going

813
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: to see the child that much, right, if you're like

814
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: busy and the child is with the mom. More often

815
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: depends on how you want your child to live. You

816
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: can't spite the mom because I'm saying spite the child

817
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: because you at the mom. That's not cool. So it's

818
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: like that's she's not finna live off my money, blah

819
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: blah blah. But now you're spiting the child because now

820
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: the child don't have a backyard or a swing set

821
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: or amenities that you could bring with your money just

822
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: because you want to.

823
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, and I don't really know

824
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: a whole lot of kids that need fifty thousand, hundred thousand,

825
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollars.

826
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: I love this a lot of money, that's very loud. Yeah, yes,

827
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: it's a lot of money. Yeah yeah. I mean, look,

828
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: I never took my baby daddy's to court.

829
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: They just break you off, do it. They do what

830
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: dad should do.

831
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.

832
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: Do you think sometimes women actually try to get pregnant

833
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: from men? Yes, that's a real thing. Yes, you've had

834
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: girlfriends say, oh, I'm trying to Hey, I'm trying to

835
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: have girlfriends.

836
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: Lie about abortions to get money to get to act

837
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: like they're pregnant. Yes, it's disgusting. This is why I

838
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: stopped my slut walk by the way. Yeah, this is

839
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: why I'm no longer a feminist because I all the

840
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: dark side of what women can do. And I'm sitting

841
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: here feeling slighted by men, and then I'm fighting for equality,

842
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, the only.

843
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: Equality is that you either you are crazy, y'all are

844
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: really you guys are extorting men, lying about pregnancies, saying

845
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: you're on birth control when you're not to trap them,

846
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: you know, And I mean not to sound vulgar, but

847
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: if a man comes inside of you and you say

848
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: that you're on birth control.

849
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: He trusts you. Stup that you would trap him like that.

850
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: You don't do that to people, And that probably should

851
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: have been his first mistake that he trusted someone. Huh yeah,

852
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, could you teach me? After talking to you,

853
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: You're like, don't trust nobody?

854
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't trust nobody. I don't. I

855
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: really don't trust nobody.

856
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: We as told me, like after you got the day

857
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: you got a divorce, you and him went to the

858
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: Script club. Yeah, y'all we can't be together, but come on, baby,

859
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: let's go to the spill club. Get some ways.

860
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: That's my dog. That's my dog.

861
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: And he said, you know what, I wouldn't I wouldn't

862
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: get you know, I just give her the money, let

863
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: her do her thing. I was like, Whiz, think about

864
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: what you said. You said you and Amber y'all went

865
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: to court, y'all got a divorce. Come on, baby, let

866
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: go to this club.

867
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: We just cool like that.

868
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: He said it. He said, we're so much better as

869
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: friends than we were husband and wife.

870
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Also, in our defense, Wiz was twenty three when he

871
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: proposed to me. I was like twenty six. We were

872
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: very immature. We were just getting money. Our families were

873
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: just like, what you got this money? He got that?

874
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: Our families up our marriage. Really gonna be honest.

875
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: What happened? His mom didn't like you, Your mom didn't

876
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: like him.

877
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean just everybody just couldn't mind business. And then

878
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: me and him start arguing because our family is intimidating

879
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: us and just making it hard where we could have

880
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: just been happy and peaceful. You know, it just wasn't.

881
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't. If we would have gotten married later in life,

882
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: it would have been much easier because he really is

883
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: my best friend. They we're cool as hell. It was

884
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: just the wrong time.

885
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: Can you have done a better job of keeping them

886
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: my y'all? Damn business?

887
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but we when you're that young and you

888
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: got so much money coming in on both sides, and

889
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: then you got a brand new baby and you got

890
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: the mama telling you, well, this is how y'all raised you.

891
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: And then my mom was like, well with this, and

892
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: then she's saying this and that, and then it's just like, well,

893
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you need to tell her to stop

894
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: saying this. And he's like, well, you need to get

895
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: your other side of the family, and it's just a

896
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: whole mess. It's a whole mess.

897
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Are you partnering with Khalifa and Khalifa cush correct? Are

898
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: you partners?

899
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: I wish I was giving my five percents.

900
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: I've always I had had no idea. I mean when

901
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: we started started Club Shasha CJ my executive producer. Yeah,

902
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: I never thought a lot of people that I'm sitting

903
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: down with because the way we started is that I

904
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: just reached in my phone and I just reached out

905
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: to people that I had in my phone. So I

906
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: never had any idea. But I've always said, man, I

907
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: want to ask Amberroll, why do here you get a

908
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: tattooed on your full head? What does that even mean?

909
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to you couldn't put it on your back,

910
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: your arm, your thigh.

911
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Shannon, not to get dark, because this conversation

912
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: is very happy. I just never had a problem with

913
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: depression and anxiety. I always been a ball of sunshine.

914
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: And you know, I had a baby and the pandemic

915
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: hit and at all that happened, and then at the

916
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: same time I found out my baby daddy was cheating

917
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: on me. Our whole relationship, so it was a lot

918
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: of hard pills of swallow and also trying to be

919
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: a mother, and I had a six year old at

920
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: the time, and just California shut.

921
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Down, California that the rest of the country didn't shut

922
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: down like California did. California shut down.

923
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: The California shut down. You almost like just could not

924
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: leave your house, and everything was so scary in the news,

925
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: and my newborn baby and my mind me up. And

926
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: I got the tattoo because I felt like I just

927
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: needed to feel something. I just needed to look in

928
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: the mirror and see my kids. And I don't know,

929
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: I was just I was in a very dark place.

930
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: And I also I didn't I didn't want to feel beautiful.

931
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: I didn't want to feel pretty. I just kind of

932
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: wanted myself up a little bit. Damn if that makes sense.

933
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: No, I mean at the time, I mean I'm listening

934
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: at you, and you're telling me what you're going through

935
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: and that you didn't want to feel pretty. And you

936
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: get a tattoo, and obviously it's where everybody's going to

937
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: be able to see it. Put it in a place,

938
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: and like I said, I ask you, and I don't

939
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: mean to be disrespectful or anything like that, So I apologize,

940
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: But so you had postpartum?

941
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Yes? Why have postpartum? Because my entire relationship was a lot,

942
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, And I just was he seeing

943
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: share at the time?

944
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: Was that was the one he was?

945
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: He was seeing everybody. I don't think he was seeing Share,

946
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: but he was definitely seeing everybody.

947
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: How do you not know? You say you had intuition?

948
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: How do you not know you you have cloudy judgment

949
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: when you're pregnant? Oh okay, But it's also like, how

950
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: you gonna cheat on me when I'm pregnant? You know,

951
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm not feel to cheat back. At least play a

952
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: fair fight, cheat on me when I get my body back. No,

953
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't do that. Okay, what am I going to

954
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: get your friends to make you mad? I'm not going

955
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: to do that. That's ridiculous.

956
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, someone do that now?

957
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm not that Why that's so dumb, That's so stupid. No,

958
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: not doing that. It's ridiculous.

959
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: You have any more taxi? You got one of your

960
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: thumb It used to.

961
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: Say Cam because what's his name was? Cameron? Uh huh,

962
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: Well his name is Cameron. But I turned it into

963
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: pain because he broke my heart worse than anyone could

964
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: ever bring behind.

965
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was gonna say that, Yeah, you're not

966
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to have I don't know how guy's

967
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna let you have somebody else's name on them. Yeah.

968
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: I turned it into pain.

969
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how many tattoos do you have? You have

970
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: seed the too in your forehead or see the thumb.

971
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm fully sleeved.

972
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Really yeah, what made How were you forgot your first tattoo?

973
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: I was young?

974
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: Did you always want tatts?

975
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to be ball headed with shades and I

976
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: wanted to be tatted. Really yep, yep, this is all premeditated, Shannon,

977
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: This is all premeditated, And this is how I wanted

978
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: to look.

979
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: I see what Pete Davidson just had all his tattoos removed.

980
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the cause out if it shortly sent

981
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand dollars to have those tattoos. Would

982
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: you ever think about having your tattoos removed?

983
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: No, it's just too painful. Really, I ain't doing that.

984
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: The removal is painful. Huh.

985
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 2: The removal is more painful than the actually really yeah,

986
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: oh yeah.

987
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Because I had my daughter. Uh,

988
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: she got a tattoo without my permission and that ended

989
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: up having to take hers she got it yeh shet Yeah,

990
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: oh she was screaming. I don't know. I don't know

991
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: what to tell you because but you can actually hear.

992
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: You can smell the skin burning.

993
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

994
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell her that every week. Got it up listen. Yeah,

995
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: she talked about she wanted to be reread.

996
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: How old you?

997
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had had headed down on arm. I mean

998
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: had just like Rihanna.

999
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she wouldn't be rereached.

1000
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Funny I said, read, don't pay no bills up here.

1001
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: I love you reread, but that had to come up

1002
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: off there.

1003
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: Wait, how old you? You only have a daughter.

1004
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: I have two daughters and my son.

1005
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: How old are they?

1006
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Thirty two and thirty one? How old are you share

1007
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: that I'll be fifty seven. Continue, give me a little trend.

1008
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: You WoT to give a little dread? Jordan, I feel

1009
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: like that k doc swimming pools, pour up, drink, headshot drink.

1010
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: They're not like us. Jordan did not like us. Y'all

1011
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: that right down. Serve your procedures breast reduction, lightful suctions,

1012
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: say like pegs bodox fillers face typed why you need

1013
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: to do all that?

1014
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: What you mean why not?

1015
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying this is your body. I'll never tell you.

1016
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: I look the same. Yeah, but I'm just not aging.

1017
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: So what women do is they go and get these

1018
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: procedures done where they look different. They look like a

1019
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: different person. I don't want to look like a different person.

1020
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: I just want to a younger version on yourself. You said,

1021
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: what you want to look like a younger version of yourself?

1022
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I just want to stay youthful.

1023
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: You do realize the objective is that once you it's

1024
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: the age because a lot of people have an appointment

1025
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: that they can't reschedule. What do you mean appointment that

1026
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: you can't reschedule? It's called death? Oh I mean, don't you?

1027
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, so how long? So you want to be

1028
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: you want to be sixty looking like this?

1029
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: I will be sixty looking like this.

1030
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, that mercy. It's okay, it's.

1031
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fine, it's fine. It is definitely okay.

1032
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: So all those procedures, I mean, you're like, man, that's.

1033
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: Really not a lot.

1034
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: It's up keep.

1035
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: It's just it's just maintenance. It's that's not a lot

1036
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: of trust me. I know girls they get a lot.

1037
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: I know guys that get their bodies done. What kind

1038
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: of body what they had six packs? They get all that. Yeah,

1039
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: come on and it cuts in there. So what they

1040
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: do is they light boat suction around the muscle and

1041
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: it makes it cut like stick out.

1042
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1043
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys doing that now, Yes, they won't. Well, some

1044
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: is genetics. Some is genetics. And if you want the

1045
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: extra cuts, sometimes you need a little help. You go

1046
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: to doctor Matt Locke.

1047
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: Uh your angela Black China fondly noms black China. She

1048
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: got a breast and plants butt injection. She got all

1049
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: that stuff removed.

1050
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good for her. Yes, she's happy. She seems

1051
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: very happy.

1052
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: She does seem very happy. Did you have a conversation

1053
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: with her, I mean she's sold talk all the time.

1054
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but you know we're just in different We

1055
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: have different lifestyles, me and China. But that's my sister forever.

1056
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Why do you think women are regretting some of the

1057
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: decisions that they made when they were younger. Sisa said

1058
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: she regrets getting her BBL as well. Why do you

1059
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: think women are starting to have those regrets ever.

1060
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because it's it's a style at

1061
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: the time, right to have just a big, old fat ass,

1062
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: and then you realize, you well, you go to the

1063
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: gym and you can't really run on the treadmill because

1064
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: your ass is heavy as hell, and then you want

1065
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: to go get it taken out, you know. So I

1066
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: mean I've done it. I got my butt done, and

1067
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: then I got everything taken out, right, So I got

1068
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: my butt done when it was in style, big stupid

1069
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: fat ass, and now I got it taken out?

1070
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Is it hard for women to get to age gracefully?

1071
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: I'm I'm happy with aging. I just feel like, if

1072
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, if I can get some boatoks or some

1073
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, I really don't do much. What do I get?

1074
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Do I get, like maybe a little filler right here

1075
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: and some boatos on my face? You think you can

1076
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: get some bowtok, I'm gonna take you some boatos. You

1077
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: need a little bit right here. You got a couple,

1078
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna get rid of it.

1079
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: But I'm about to be fifty seven.

1080
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: But it's okay. It's just it's fine. You get a

1081
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: little botox and then it just smooths it out. I'm

1082
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: gonna go do it for free.

1083
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: It's fine, Oh Lord, have mercy. But but why is it?

1084
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: It seems to be a double stand that men men

1085
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: can age gracefully. Yeah, oh you look so good. We

1086
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: love the salt and pepper, blah blah blah, but women.

1087
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: Because it's like men, men can get to age like

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00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: be fifty five, sixty, seventy and still appeal to like

1089
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: the high twenties, thirties, year old, thirty young forties, women

1090
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: not so much have now some like you and your situation.

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00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: You being who you are a You're gonna always be

1092
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: able to appeal to basically from nineteen to your age,

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00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: even nineteen.

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00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: Be honest, it's not easy. I do go to the

1095
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: gym five days a week, you know what I'm saying.

1096
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: I do drink a lot of water. I don't drink

1097
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: alcohol like that maybe a special occasion some.

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: There. Do you watch what you eat?

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00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: I eat in moderation, okay? So I am. I am

1100
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: from Philly, So I do like my cheese steaks and

1101
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: my fork sandwiches and stuff like that. But instead of

1102
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: eating a whole one, I'll eat a half one, or

1103
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: instead of having fries with it, I won't have no fries.

1104
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: I'll just drink of water versus a root beer because

1105
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: I love root beer. But yeah, I just mix it up,

1106
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: mix and match it.

1107
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever been body shamed? Do women bodies? Do

1108
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: people body shait? Not just say women, but do you

1109
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: get body shamed?

1110
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: I did, especially like after I had my kids and

1111
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: I was still fat, you know, but I didn't give

1112
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. Twice. I was just like,

1113
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm fluffy because my kids have to lay on me

1114
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: and breast me, and I don't care. I'll go to

1115
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: the gym and I'll figure it out.

1116
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Why are women so hard on each other on social media?

1117
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: Is it really like this in real life? Or women

1118
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: really this hard on each other and normally forget social

1119
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: media take that out. Have women always been this hard

1120
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: on each other? Have y'all always been your toughest critics?

1121
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know

1122
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: this is kind of like frowned upon, but like I

1123
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: usually hang out with guys, I don't hang out with

1124
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: girls like that. And the girls that I do hang

1125
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: out with, they're very confident. If you're insecure around me,

1126
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: it kids are like me, you're mixed, and I said, no,

1127
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm not. You're a Puerto Rican. Both of your parents

1128
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: are Puerto Rican. Generationally, down the line, the blacks and

1129
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: whites mixed and then you became Puerto Rican. I understand

1130
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: the history, right. The difference between me and you is

1131
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: that I have a white parent and I have a

1132
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: black parent. It's a whole different culture. As sist, you

1133
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, so stop telling me

1134
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: who I am. And then she was like, you know

1135
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: what your problem is. You just want to be white.

1136
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, So I just get up and

1137
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm quiet, and I gotta walk past her desk to

1138
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: get out the classroom, and she went like this, and

1139
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: I was like what And I hit her with like

1140
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: a six This is like a six piece, y'all. She

1141
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: has a history of violence. What am I gonna do?

1142
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna bully me and then beat me up? Are

1143
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: you done? I'm never gonna let you do that to me.

1144
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get off first and now. And my both

1145
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: my mom and dad was like, that's right, that's what

1146
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: you do. And my dad was like, you always get

1147
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: the first, always. Yeah.

1148
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: How difficult was it going up by racial in the

1149
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: nineties in South Philly.

1150
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: It was interesting for sure.

1151
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Well maybe actually like what late eighties.

1152
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: It was the nineties. It was the nineties. Yeah, for

1153
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: sure the nineties, and like I started first grade in

1154
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: ninety one, okay, So it was definitely interesting because it's

1155
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: like the Italian and Irish out there, so they're like

1156
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: a different kind of racist sometimes. But I would like

1157
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: have before I really even thought about race, I would

1158
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: have a crush on like an Italian boy or an

1159
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: Irish boy, and then they would like see my mom

1160
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: and they would be like, you know, call me like

1161
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: the hard r and I'm like, it's kind of crazy,

1162
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: like you know, and then and then or they would

1163
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: see my mom and they'd be like, damn, I just

1164
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: I had no idea, or I thought you were white, right,

1165
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: or well if your dad's white, then you're white, but

1166
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: if your mom's black, then you're black. And it was

1167
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: always like I had to just pick a side all

1168
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: the time. So I think that was one of my

1169
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: frustrations with Johnslyn, like I'm at the time, thirty nine

1170
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: years old, are we really doing this? Like are you

1171
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: that stupid that we really have to go I have

1172
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: to go through this at thirty nine years old. It's insane.

1173
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, do you hate that you felt like you

1174
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: needed to pick a side that I needed I got.

1175
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: Why can't I just love both of my parents? The

1176
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: one is black, one is white. Why can't I embrace?

1177
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: Why do I have to choose a side? Why do

1178
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: I got to choose the Caucasian side of my family?

1179
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Why do I have to choose the black side of

1180
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: my family? Why can't I just embrace and be an

1181
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: embodiment of it all?

1182
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: That's my whole point. I always felt like that my

1183
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: whole life.

1184
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: But you felt that each side wanted you to choose,

1185
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: not my people.

1186
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: People on the outside of my family.

1187
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say you're outside forces wanted you to

1188
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: choose you black, Say I'm black. Black power right on.

1189
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: But it's like the one drop rule comes from white supremacy.

1190
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: It comes from Jim crow eraror where white enslavers would

1191
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: rape black slaved women and had their they would have

1192
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: their kids, and they'd be like, oh, one drop, you're

1193
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: still slave. You know, it comes from white supremacy. There

1194
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: is no reason why I have to feel bad that

1195
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: I have a white dad and white family members. That

1196
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: I love and I have to just say I'm black

1197
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: because the one drop rule is insane, right, And I

1198
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: love that I have my white uncles that introduced me

1199
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: to Pantera and Metallica and System of a Down and

1200
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: Leonard skinnerd and all these all that that's a part

1201
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: of my culture because of my white uncles. And then

1202
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: my mom's side is you know, the Anita Baker, Luther

1203
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: Vandros four Tops, Temptations, Teddy Pandagra. That is who I am.

1204
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: So somebody like Jocelyn bitch, You're not gonna just tell

1205
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: me who I am.

1206
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Why do you think

1207
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: Drake Drake receives so much hate? Do you think it's

1208
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: because he's bibracial?

1209
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he embraces his Jewish side so much that

1210
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: it pisses people off.

1211
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: What do you think of the people that are profited

1212
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: off for being in black spaces? You got a problem

1213
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: with that? Are you okay with that?

1214
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: That confuses me. I'm gonna tell you why, because you

1215
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: cannot blame you have to blame the consumer at that point. Right,

1216
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: So when people are like Amber, You're famous for no reason,

1217
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: it's like maybe, but you have to blame the consumer.

1218
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: You can't blame me, blame the people that buy into

1219
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: what I'm selling. Right, Yes, So if somebody like Drake

1220
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: or me is within black culture and we're biracial, why

1221
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: are you mad at us? We love y'all, you know,

1222
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: and we love white people too. And there's black people

1223
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: that aren't good, and there's white people that aren't good.

1224
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: There's bad people in every race, and there's good people

1225
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: in every race. So you don't talk about people as

1226
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: a monolith. That's unfair, you know what I'm saying. So

1227
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: to benefit off of black culture is crazy. I hate

1228
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: when I see that, right because it's like you're not

1229
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: actively going into too. You're like, like me, I'm bi racial,

1230
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: like me, I'm Drake's is making rap music and it's

1231
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: really good. So people like it, like they buy it

1232
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: by it.

1233
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: Tyler caught a lot of backlash when she identified herself

1234
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: as black and a colored woman. She's being obviously she's

1235
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: South Africa. What's going on?

1236
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: People are called color in South Africa.

1237
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: Colored.

1238
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: There's a different culture over there. People in the US.

1239
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: They used to call you that. You call you that

1240
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: and fel doing you know, Yeah, filvil rising and the film. Yeah,

1241
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: and you know, pre eighteen sixties, definitely they were called colored.

1242
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: They call you negro.

1243
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: But it has a negative conversation here in America because

1244
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: of American history. It's not the same as South Africa.

1245
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: So when she says that people are up in arms,

1246
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean the same thing over here that

1247
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: it does over there.

1248
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: You've been participating in Travis Scott's annual HBCU Celebrity Classic.

1249
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: What's your relationship with Tramp? You're cool, y'all. Obviously you're

1250
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: cool because you go damn there every year.

1251
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just I don't know, it's just super cool.

1252
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: He invited me one year, which is crazy because I

1253
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: don't talk to Travis Scott until the game is coming up,

1254
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: like in February, and I'm like, yo, bro, like what

1255
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: are we doing this year? Like how many outfits should

1256
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: I bring? Is like after after party, and then I

1257
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: won't I probably won't talk to him till next February.

1258
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Amber, I don't know. I was debating. You caught a

1259
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of flat because you supported President Trump, your pilog

1260
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: using and say, look, I like talking religion, I like

1261
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: talking politics. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with it.

1262
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: And people like, we're going to cancel Amber Rolls because

1263
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: she wearing the red hat make America great again? What

1264
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: went into your and Wiz said, you know, talking to Wiz,

1265
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: he says, look, if that's what you believe, do you,

1266
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: why are you worried about what everybody else thinking? Do you?

1267
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: What made you decide to say, you know what? This

1268
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: to who I believe is the best candidate, This to

1269
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: who I believe, this is, who embodies basically what I

1270
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: believe in, This, who I'm supporting. What went into your

1271
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: thought process? You knew that you was gonna catch some criticism,

1272
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna catch some blowback and flat, but you did

1273
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: it anyway. What went into that decision?

1274
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: I just felt like he was the best for our country?

1275
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: And why not use my platform to say that? First

1276
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: and foremost. Second of all, no one can ever cancel me.

1277
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: Only I can cancel me.

1278
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: Right? Is there anything you want to promote? You got

1279
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: anything coming out? You got a book, you got cosmetics

1280
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: or anything you want to promote?

1281
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So I would like to announce that me and

1282
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: Ray J are coming out with a new show. Okay,

1283
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: and we are talking about everything sports, politics, entertainment. It's

1284
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: me and him. We're gonna go nuts. I can't wait

1285
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: for you guys to see it, and also follow me

1286
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: on Only Fans. Subscribe to my Only Fans merch my merch.

1287
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 2: If you just go to the link in my bio

1288
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: at amber Rose on Instagram, you can get all the

1289
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: links there. But my Only Fans is just my day

1290
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: to day life and stuff that I don't post on Instagram.

1291
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: So it's really it's really cool over.

1292
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: There, Miss Ambrose.

1293
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

1294
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: Future at your time. That was awesome. Thank you. Spotlight

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