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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a good Bill's

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Speaker 1: Patriots rivalry week. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm backed.

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Speaker 1: We were just here talking about all the late games.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a good early slate with Jordan rod Rieg

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Claybond. And yes, I was gonna say everything

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Speaker 1: old is new again in terms of Bills Patriots rivals.

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Speaker 1: But they really over the years weren't good. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, the Bills kind of helped knock out the

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Speaker 1: end of the Patriots rain in terms of winning the

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Speaker 1: AFCAS over and over again. The most embarrassing game I

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Speaker 1: believe in Bill Belichick's history not getting a single stop

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Speaker 1: in a playoff game against Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: And a game most embarrassing at a Fell game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, yeah, he's not taking her thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the North Carolina Tar Hillsburg. I mean, I would not

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Speaker 1: have a guess they would go that bad. I'm so

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Speaker 1: they're not just eating the money and saying goodbye to

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not gonna get better.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna get better Bill Belichick. It's

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Speaker 4: not gonna get better. Greg Rosenhal better news for the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots. They are not favored, so nobody believes

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Speaker 4: in you, and you can summon your belief and your

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Speaker 4: anger at the folks in Vegas. The Bill's a one

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Speaker 4: and a half point favored on the road at your

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots, Greg the over unders fifty and a

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Speaker 4: half Iron Eagle and JJ Watt on the call. The

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Speaker 4: deep passing game has been great for Drake May. How

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Speaker 4: does it take advantage of the Buffalo secondary?

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Speaker 1: That's the matchup there because that strength has to be

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Speaker 1: so strong it overwhelms all the other weird parts of

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Speaker 1: this Patriots team that are hard to understand. Yeah, d Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this team. I mean I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in them either. I'm gonna pick the Bills in this game.

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Speaker 1: You have to pick a game. Doesn't it seem more

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Speaker 1: likely that these two teams would split, and especially coming

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Speaker 1: off how the Bills have played lately, Like it just

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Speaker 1: makes sense in the story of this season that the

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Speaker 1: Bills make this division race a little closer down the

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Speaker 1: stretch and win this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think the Bills, though, they're

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Speaker 3: so easy to believe in when you see, especially the

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Speaker 3: middle to later parts of last week's game, and then

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Speaker 3: they're so easy to doubt when you see some of

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Speaker 3: the things that set up a week ago before that game,

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Speaker 3: and some of the issues getting off the field on

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Speaker 3: third down, and some of the defensive problems that keep

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Speaker 3: popping up from time to time, some of the discombobulation

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Speaker 3: at receiver, and you know, it's basically like a whack

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Speaker 3: a mole team where you're gonna have at least one

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Speaker 3: of these problems pop up in any one game. Can

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, I guess, mask all of it enough? And

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Speaker 3: how early do you press the button to your point?

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Speaker 1: And I know schedules part of it, But like sometimes

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Speaker 1: we talk about the Bills, like there the Chiefs or

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Speaker 1: the Bengals or the Ravens, all these teams with great

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and losing records.

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Speaker 2: The Bills are nine and four.

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Speaker 3: Good football team?

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Speaker 1: Right The Bills are nine and four. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna throw out a hot hot take for you. Go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you had to pick an AFC team right now,

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Speaker 1: pick your Super Bowl team right now, who's your pick?

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Speaker 1: I think I would take the Bills. That that's the

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Speaker 1: hot take part of it if I had to pick one,

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Speaker 1: just because I don't know who else to pick.

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Speaker 2: Pick one right now, you have to pick one.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I would take the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I don't want two of us.

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Speaker 3: That's too much because because of Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I am.

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Speaker 4: I am taking the Houston Texans, okay, and that defense

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Speaker 4: and that pass rush because the it seems like a

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Speaker 4: common issue for these AFC contenders is like either like

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Speaker 4: Bosa's injury, the Chiefs kind of struggling to get pressure late,

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Speaker 4: and I'll take defense.

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Speaker 5: Why not throw the up Josh Hans Allen and the

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Speaker 5: Jackson break.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there is a wrong pick.

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Speaker 1: It's to me, it's their strengths, which is Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: in offensive line and a running game and a history

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Speaker 1: of a defense that can at least game plan and

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Speaker 1: figure some things out that they haven't done it very

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Speaker 1: well in the playoffs, like gives them as good a

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Speaker 1: fighting chance as anyone, And yet I would they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: It just seems to know, and I think that's a

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Speaker 3: good caveat to include there too. It's like, you know

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Speaker 3: you've seen what they can do and what they are

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Speaker 3: capable of what That's a good point about being a

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Speaker 3: good matchup team. There we are in the stretch runs,

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Speaker 3: but we have not gotten to the point where you

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Speaker 3: can purely play matchup football on defense. You maybe can

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Speaker 3: do it, you know, you can't just Jonathan gannon it

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Speaker 3: the entire time, but when you do get to the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, we've seen it. We've seen adjustments after the buye.

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Speaker 3: We see adjustments have to have. He can play matchup football.

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Speaker 3: It's just they're just not quite there yet where they

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Speaker 3: to and need to in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Drake May and the Patriots, what do they look like

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Speaker 1: coming off theirby You know, they have a couple to.

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Speaker 3: Have a buy you know, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: He injuries like maybe yeah, but they were also rolling

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Speaker 1: and they've had, you know, had a little time to

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Speaker 3: Not that he doesn't dare get his hopes up.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, No, Actually, I think, of course, I think they

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Speaker 1: can win this game. I think it's basically a toss up.

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Speaker 1: They're playing for the AFCAST title. They literally win it

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Speaker 1: this week and ray Abel started to talk about that

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Speaker 1: AFC East championship. Even going into the buy, he started

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Speaker 1: to change his tone pretty clearly of like, now we're

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Speaker 1: playing to go win like a title. It's just they're

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Speaker 1: entering a different phase of the season and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: if some of their notable weaknesses can get improved, which

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Speaker 1: is they're a terrible red zone team, literally the worst

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Speaker 1: than the NFL on defense and pretty bad on offense.

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Speaker 2: And they're a bad running team.

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Speaker 1: And so this matchup particular, I want to see can

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Speaker 1: you run on this Bill's defense, because you should be

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Speaker 1: able to and you can't.

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Speaker 3: You got serious problems because a lot of teams have

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Speaker 3: this year, and some.

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Speaker 4: Of the teams that haven't kind of chose not to. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like oddly enough, like the Pittsburgh Steelers last week.

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Speaker 2: That was a weird situation and everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit different for the but the Bengals

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Speaker 4: did start out running the ball against the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the past game kind of bit him

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Speaker 4: at the end, but they had the success there. I'm

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Speaker 4: just the button necessarily doesn't even get pressed. The button's

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Speaker 4: always on at this point, like it's attached to the

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Speaker 4: light switch in the booth for Joe Brady when he

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Speaker 4: walks in, because it's constantly on. Josh is making these

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Speaker 4: has gotten healthier. You know, I always says tough to

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Speaker 4: get healthy playing football. Christian Gonzales managed them where the

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Speaker 4: separation like Josh is having to throw these seeing eye

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Speaker 4: touchdowns Tolosa gear. They did have a couple of plays

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Speaker 4: that actually just worked regular football plays last week, but

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Speaker 4: that was against the Cincinnati Bengals, a defense that hasn't

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Speaker 4: really been in a contending situation. Like the Patriots have

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Speaker 4: all your work. I feel confident and since we started

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Speaker 4: this conversation, since these numbers were printed, Greg, the people

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Speaker 4: have heard your voice. And now the Patriots are favored

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Speaker 4: by one and a half points in this game.

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Speaker 2: Wait what yes, do you know what the lines move?

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Speaker 5: Greg?

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Speaker 1: Because they want what are they gonna do with the

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs quotes from Wednesday morning talking about how they

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Speaker 1: liked being underdogs in this game.

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Speaker 2: That will have to like get a correction and like.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they tried, they tried hard until they see

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Speaker 4: the line and now they now.

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Speaker 3: They're changing everything is out the window, folks.

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Speaker 1: No Milton Williams and probably no Harold Landry who got

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Speaker 1: hurt before the bye, and they're not like a deep

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Speaker 1: defensive line, and so I do think that could be

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Speaker 1: a mismatch. That first game when these two teams played,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen like Marcus Jones got him on just a

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Speaker 1: great defensive play. He had a couple turnovers in that

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Speaker 1: game that that kind of was the difference in May

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Speaker 1: was nails at the end.

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Speaker 2: And it's a.

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Speaker 1: Big game for the conversation, huge for both because if

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Speaker 1: there is a.

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Speaker 3: Real this is the real Rodrig Rosenthal match up here?

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Speaker 3: The subtext of everything.

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Speaker 1: Why is that I'm talking about Josh Allen about in

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Speaker 1: terms of MVP?

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Speaker 3: I thought you're talking about May Stafford certainly May.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's still pretty wide open that

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Speaker 1: anyone that has as a great month, we're like we're

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Speaker 1: winnowing out like the possible candidates. But Josh Allen his

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Speaker 1: last two weeks, but that was an incredible game anyone's

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Speaker 1: like to do that against Like if he then goes

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Speaker 2: He's in the conversation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got the chart up, Josh.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's so far behind Stafford in May,

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Speaker 1: especially not if he wins this game in December that

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Speaker 1: he can't make up that ground.

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Speaker 4: Well, recency bias will help with voters. But with regards

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Speaker 4: to the conversation, he did have that prime time game

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Speaker 4: where the Texans defense absolutely distominated the Bills in every capacity.

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Speaker 4: So here he's behind Jordan Love right now again Toyota

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Speaker 4: fan is on or Jordan Love keeps scoring points.

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Speaker 1: One last thing on this game for the Bills. Kincaid

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Speaker 1: was back last week, and I think it really changes

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Speaker 1: their offense because now you're splitting up the tight end

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Speaker 1: Tyrrel Shavers is now like leading. It just makes their offense,

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Speaker 1: which is clearly around the run, and Josh just doing

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Speaker 1: Josh things like make even more sense to have.

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Speaker 5: Him out there.

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Speaker 3: Patrick. You know I have been tracking the is Greg

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Speaker 3: all the way back conversation the entire year as well,

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Speaker 3: and I did just want to share with you and

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Speaker 3: tens of thousands of listeners that and some viewers as well,

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Speaker 3: that audio medium Greg that yesterday we had a meeting

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Speaker 3: about some upcoming postseason tent pole events for NFL Daily

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Speaker 3: and one of them being the super Bowl, very excited about.

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Speaker 3: And we were talking about getting postgame interviews and post

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Speaker 3: Greg brought up how it should be no problem to

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Speaker 3: get Drake.

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Speaker 1: May I was just like, he'll it's like the first

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Speaker 1: time around, that's the time when it'll be easier postgame

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Speaker 1: to get him.

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Speaker 4: Was that a thinly veiled shot at a player who

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Speaker 4: had a win in a primetime game? And it was

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Speaker 4: difficult for Laura Rutledge to catch up.

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Speaker 3: To one second? It was not look at the transition.

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Speaker 4: Because Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers are on

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Speaker 5: I love all love for you.

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Speaker 3: You are a Justin Herbert family and family.

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Speaker 3: I think they have a shot, honestly, and listen, the

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Speaker 1: You're not going to get that pressure out of that

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Speaker 1: And this is a better Chargers defense, I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And you know what, I've never doubted Justin Herbert as

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Speaker 3: You never watching him play, watching him around his teammates,

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Speaker 3: I have something like more like like intimidating on that,

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Speaker 1: That, don't hit I mean they got Keenan, Allen, Ladd, McConkie,

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Speaker 3: And I think there's some matchable things that have frustrated

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Speaker 1: It's telling to me that the game that could end

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Speaker 1: Oh at one, DM, Wow, I mean I love Kevin Harlan,

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Speaker 3: But Kevin Harlan is eternal.

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Speaker 4: be to be completely honest, because it's very difficult to

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Speaker 4: play this game at this level, and Daniel Fell is

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Speaker 4: a very large person who you know you don't necessarily

443
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Speaker 4: want him in open space with a defensive back. But

444
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Speaker 4: when that open space is is within the gaps of

445
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Speaker 4: the offensive line and the rushes is obviously coming. There's

446
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Speaker 4: just been so many reps of file blocking air this

447
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Speaker 4: season that I think it has limited people's expectations. Like

448
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Speaker 4: you're right now, forty seconds ago saying like Derrick Henry

449
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Speaker 4: might be washed.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm not saying he's washed. I'm saying he's

451
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Speaker 1: not as good as he was.

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Speaker 5: Which thing is clear, which time is linear?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think if if there's a little

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Speaker 4: if there's better play. And not not to say that

455
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Speaker 4: you have to do things differently, but as Lamar was limiting,

456
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Speaker 4: they they know what's coming, and that's true in different aspects,

457
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Speaker 4: Like they know that the run is not necessarily a

458
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Speaker 4: great option for the Baltimore Ravens in the red zone,

459
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Speaker 4: and they know exactly where to blitz because the Baltimore

460
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Speaker 4: Ravens have had issues in picking that up. And not

461
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Speaker 4: to put it all on one player, but it's an

462
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Speaker 4: entire organizational circumstance where you put seventy seven in this

463
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Speaker 4: position to play this way and you get the same

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Speaker 4: results every single time.

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Speaker 5: At what point is something else done?

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Speaker 3: And like you said, it is not just one person.

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Speaker 3: It is not just one player. So when I say this,

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Speaker 3: it is certainly not like Lamar is feeling a lot

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Speaker 3: of the effects of a lot of this structural issues,

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Speaker 3: I think, But he also is struggling himself, and he's

471
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Speaker 3: clearly not healthy, and he's missed Wednesday practice. He's kind

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Speaker 3: of on this new rest in recovery routine where he

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Speaker 3: has a DNP on Wednesdays and then he still plays

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Speaker 3: that following weekend, including this week. But the red zone stuff,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are thirtieth in red zone touchdown percentage,

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Speaker 3: which is the worst of the Lamar Jackson era in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: And part of it is because he is not a

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Speaker 3: threat in the run game either. He has still has

479
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Speaker 3: yet to force a single mistackle on design run on

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Speaker 3: on the design run plays, or any runs at all.

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Speaker 3: And and you know that's that's a problem because in

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Speaker 3: the red zone it adds a layer and a dimension

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Speaker 3: to the way you can attack a very small amount

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Speaker 3: of space and the way that defenders have to try

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Speaker 3: to cover you. And if the quarterback is such a

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Speaker 3: true like a truly a dual threat, we know he

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Speaker 3: can pass the ball when he's when he's passing the

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Speaker 3: ball well, and like he has in almost every season

489
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Speaker 3: to this point, he can pass the ball better than

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Speaker 3: pretty much any quarterback in the NFL, like gorgeous pure passer.

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Speaker 3: But he's also not really you don't really consider him

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Speaker 3: as having a number one receiver per se. Say, Flowers

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Speaker 3: has been productive, but I don't know if you would

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Speaker 3: call him a threat. That is being like truly bracketed

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Speaker 3: by defenses week after week after week. And what does

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Speaker 3: that do? That assigns everybody else to mathematical advantages against

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Speaker 3: every other player on the field. And then when you

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Speaker 3: take away the quarterback he's clearly not healthy, you take

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Speaker 3: away his legs, you're then giving even more away of

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Speaker 3: what is so layered historically of your offensive attack. It's many,

501
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Speaker 3: many problems at one time, but this is the worst

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Speaker 3: Ravens offense we've really seen over an extended period with

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson actually on the field and playing, and statistically

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Speaker 3: a lot of these stats back it up. But the

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Speaker 3: good news for the Ravens is that when we're talking

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Speaker 3: about historic, historic, historic worst, sure, the Bengals defense is

507
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Speaker 3: allowing six point three to two yards per play, which

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Speaker 3: is the fourth most in the Super Bowl era guys.

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Speaker 3: So good for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: It was getting better for a couple well, yes, except

511
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Speaker 1: if we hadn't just seen them handle him. I do

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Speaker 1: think the Ravens will bounce back, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it should be slept on that. Like Lamar did rush

514
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Speaker 1: for a touchdown last week that he did, I think

515
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Speaker 1: look better, even if he's not the same guy running

516
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Speaker 1: and look to run more last week.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: If you want to extrapolate the agitation, the outward frustration

520
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Speaker 4: from Lamar where he was when he was more hurt.

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Speaker 4: You didn't see that, Like he's not wasting energy being

522
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Speaker 4: demonstrative on the sideline at people, specifically at day of

523
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Speaker 4: pilele because you know it wasn't feeling great. And you

524
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Speaker 4: see it now in the reactions where Mark Andrews breaks

525
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Speaker 4: up a touchdown pass for new Hopkins, in these other

526
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Speaker 4: situations where yeah, you do have reason to believe he's They.

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Speaker 2: Had four hundred and twenty yards last week.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of signs that it was coming around,

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Speaker 1: but they just it was a It was a frustrating game.

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Speaker 1: It was also frustrating to watch them put T Higgins

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Speaker 1: back in the game multiple times after concussion.

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Speaker 4: It was the exact same situation, Greg like clear replay

533
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Speaker 4: of his head bouncing off.

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Speaker 1: And then he goes into the concussion protocol and then

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to see he is practicing on a

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Speaker 1: limited basis again Wednesday, So there is a chance he'll

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Speaker 1: clear the protocol. But clearly he suffered symptoms or else

538
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have put him back in it despite playing it.

539
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Speaker 1: But if he is not there that that would change.

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Speaker 2: Things for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, tight ends, by the way against the Bengals, it's

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Speaker 1: like a thing that every broadcast coup mentions every week

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Speaker 1: when you're playing the Bengals. But it is crazy that

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Speaker 1: they've given up something like three hundred plus more yards

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Speaker 1: against tight ends than any other team. And another Ravens

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Speaker 1: didn't quite hit that button a couple of weeks ago,

547
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Speaker 1: but they do have.

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Speaker 3: A couple of tight end Yeah, they could do it

549
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Speaker 3: this time. They could do especially with Lamar feeling better.

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Speaker 3: To your point, I love that note about you could

551
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Speaker 3: see it all over on the sideline and I think

552
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Speaker 3: if it's just restructured this way, where getting that Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Rest just helps his body feel better. I mean, by

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Speaker 3: all means, give him Thursday too. I mean this, dude,

555
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Speaker 3: it's not like you need to reteach or reinstall this

556
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Speaker 3: offense with him. He's been running it at the highest

557
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Speaker 3: level there is Oh, we've seen it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it with great quarterbacks over the years, depending

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Speaker 1: on the injury, depending on the season. I think Stafford's

560
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Speaker 1: had time like that. Brady certainly has. If that's what

561
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Speaker 1: needs to happen, it's what will happen, and if it

562
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen, and we're going to take a break with

563
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Speaker 1: this because this is a longer conversation. I just suddenly

564
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: got the feeling today. I just realized, like, this is

565
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Speaker 1: it for Harbor. If they don't make the playoffs, forget it.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of think if they don't win like

567
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Speaker 1: multiple games in the playoffs, I just and it's not

568
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Speaker 1: about that he's a bad coach. It's just like, sometimes

569
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Speaker 1: things come to an end, and this just feels like

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Speaker 1: a logical time that it would come to an end.

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Speaker 1: So it puts a lot of heat on what happens

572
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Speaker 1: down the stretch.

573
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Speaker 3: The Tennessee Titans head coach John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: I got the Michigan job just came open.

575
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Speaker 1: Get that we're starting rumors with absolutely no grounding and reality.

576
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Speaker 2: Just vibes.

577
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Speaker 1: That's what we're all about. We'll take a break, come back,

578
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Speaker 1: wrap up the week. Fifteen's back on NFL Daily. You

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Speaker 1: know one thing about having no byewee, more games of

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Speaker 1: the previous show, more time for us together, more time on.

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Speaker 5: The good games. Maybe we'll maybe we'll all some quick

582
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Speaker 5: ones here in this.

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Speaker 3: Particular execon Why do you look at me saying that?

584
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Speaker 1: Because there's only two people other than me, and there

585
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Speaker 1: are some good teams here, but not as you know,

586
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Speaker 1: the matchups there and is great all right?

587
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Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns at the Chicago Bears, who were seven

588
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Speaker 4: and a half point favorites after a loss, and what

589
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: was a great game that came down to the wire

590
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Speaker 4: against the Green Bay Packers, the over unders thirty nine

591
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Speaker 4: and a half. Kevin Coogler and Darryl Johnston on the

592
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Speaker 4: CALLDR Sanders went.

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Speaker 5: Off last week. What does he do against the Bears

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Speaker 5: this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see because this will be a

596
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Speaker 3: great a great test. This will be a great test

597
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Speaker 3: and his continued development. I love this. This defense. Him

598
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Speaker 3: playing against this defense, I'm excited to see what they do.

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Speaker 3: The Browns themselves seem sort of resigned yet again, once

600
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Speaker 3: another year in a row, to their fate. I'd be

601
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Speaker 3: really surprised if many in that building are still in

602
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Speaker 3: their roles by the end of at the end of

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Speaker 3: this season as it concludes. But in the meantime, I

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Speaker 3: think we're watching a young core uarterback grow up in

605
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Speaker 3: the league. On the other side, we're watching what can

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Speaker 3: happen when you pair that young quarterback with the right

607
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Speaker 3: team around him, with the right head coach in Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams and I, as you guys know, I love watching

609
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Speaker 3: the Bears offense. I love watching this run game in

610
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Speaker 3: particular with my dude, Kyle Menung dude and once again

611
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: put on a show last week and expected to do

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Speaker 3: the same this week.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's one of the best matchups in the week,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, when the Bears at the ball. Now,

615
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Speaker 1: the Browns are coming off one of their worst games

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Speaker 1: of the year. They got pushed around a little bit

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Speaker 1: by the Titans up front, so it is fair to

618
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Speaker 1: point out they are not faultless like that was maybe

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Speaker 1: only like the second time this year where the defense

620
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: let like let them down. It doesn't happen often, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a fascinating test or that

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Speaker 1: Bears offense against this pass rush.

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Speaker 2: They've had Ozzi.

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Speaker 1: Trapilo playing well, got some stuff too at left tackle

625
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Speaker 1: after getting you know, is a high draft pick that

626
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Speaker 1: didn't get much playing I'm the first couple months of

627
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Speaker 1: the season, but through injury he's come in and he's

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Speaker 1: played really well.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's a great test.

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Speaker 1: And I do think the Bears, I mean, the Browns

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Speaker 1: are a dangerous opponent for their for their opponents in

632
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Speaker 1: the final month this season, just because if you have

633
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Speaker 1: one side of the ball that that good, like an

634
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Speaker 1: upset is always possible.

635
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Speaker 4: That That's why we thought things would go significantly different

636
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Speaker 4: last week. We'd have liked for the like it was

637
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Speaker 4: the the Tony Pollard game that was a career high

638
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Speaker 4: in rush yards where you know, you're wondering how this

639
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Speaker 4: this Ben Johnson Bears rushing attack, which has looks so

640
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 4: good in the past few weeks, is going to look

641
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Speaker 4: against Cleveland and what they can take away from that performance.

642
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Speaker 4: And but again it's late in the season. It's the

643
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Speaker 4: Browns The only thing that most people are gonna be

644
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Speaker 4: interested in is Miles's magic number is now with.

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Speaker 1: Him and Shuder actually for a three win team, they

646
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Speaker 1: have a lot of heat, and I think if Shuder

647
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Speaker 1: plays well over this final month and their matchups aren't

648
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Speaker 1: that tough In terms of the defenses overall, it's Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals.

649
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Speaker 1: I would say that's an average the decent setup for

650
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Speaker 1: the Browns offense specifically, not for their defense.

651
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of good, three great offenses they're playing.

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Speaker 1: But if he can just play how he's playing, I

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Speaker 1: do think that'll establish enough of a level where they're

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Speaker 1: not necessarily looking at quarterbacks in the draft because they'll think, hey,

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Speaker 1: did we get like a Teddy It's a different type

656
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Speaker 1: of player, but did we get a Teddy or Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr level of player that like we can roll with

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Speaker 1: for a season and then see that sort of level

659
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Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, he's probably not going to be

660
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: top five or top ten, but can he just like

661
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: stabilize the quarterback position for a year or two and

662
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: we'll see and maybe he'll develop into a capitol G guy.

663
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he has a shot at doing that. In

664
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: the next month is going to really inform their decisions.

665
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh I love the slate for him because, yeah, it

666
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: will be a challenge, but it will be a really good,

667
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: like teaching tool type of challenge. Like you need to

668
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: play these types of teams if you are a developing court,

669
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: of these types of defenses specifically, and you also need

670
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: to be faced with a lot of different situations that

671
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: these teams are going to put the Browns offense in

672
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: and put shudor Sanders in. You're facing a wide variety

673
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: of pressure design, You're facing a wide variety of run

674
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: pass balance based on the weaknesses of the upcoming opponents. Basically,

675
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: you're going to learn so much about this guy through

676
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: the next month. And I love that about what he's

677
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: got ahead of him because as you guys, we talked

678
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: about this all of us did before the draft, Like

679
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: he's got to me and to us, he's got a

680
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: really high ceiling. And so if you can watch these

681
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: types of things get put together, and you can watch

682
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: how they game plan with him, and how they strategize

683
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: and how they attack a wide variety of what he'll see, Like,

684
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: I love this for him. This is gonna be this

685
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: is like grad school. Honestly, this next month.

686
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't have a high ceiling. Who's a

687
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson.

688
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: True, haven't hit that on the show, but the reports,

689
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: including from our network, that he's gonna be on the

690
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: roster next year and he'll have a chance that could be.

691
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I understand why they're out there, and I and I

692
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: maybe the part of the Browns believe.

693
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I think they're just trying to get trade value.

694
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to find a way to get

695
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: someone to maybe essentially have the reverse brock Osweiler trade

696
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: where you pay a little bit, they like take on

697
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: some of Deshaun Watson's salary to get a draft pick

698
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: from the brown just to get him off the roster.

699
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I do not believe for a second he will ever

700
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: play a snap for the Cleveland Browns again, and I

701
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: kind of doubt he'll ever play a snap in the NFL.

702
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: Part of why I don't think that will be successful.

703
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: I think you're spot on about why this is coming

704
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: out and from from Wentz or from hoopst But I

705
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: think part of what is going to make this dead

706
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: in the water is every other owner in the league

707
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: was so pissed off about that contract that there's no

708
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: way they're gonna help now help with that count.

709
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a losing game, Like, I don't even know

710
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: why they're trying. But Browns fans also shouldn't freak out

711
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: that he's going to be competing to start next year.

712
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: I just don't believe.

713
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

714
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: Worthrawlimandra that the ownership of the NFL it was appalled

715
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: at the Deshaun Watson situation as it pertains to the

716
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: contract the Las Vegas.

717
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: Raiders at well, said Patrick.

718
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: At the Philadelphia Eagles, who are favored by eleven and

719
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: a half points, Greg rosdalt Over unders thirty eight and

720
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: a half, Joe Davis and g Regg on the call,

721
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: Jalen had the worst game that he's ever played in football.

722
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 5: I would say, how does he bounce back?

723
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because he's a talented quarterback.

724
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

725
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: They asked him if they would consider benching Jalen Hurts,

726
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: and again they did once ask Bill Belichick if there

727
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: was any thought of benching Tom Brady at one point,

728
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: like these questions do happen?

729
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember that one?

730
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: All the way back?

731
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you actually it was actually my friend Tom

732
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: Kerran who asked it, Tommy, speaking of tom starting to

733
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: take some heat for bad decision making, that's not helping

734
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: another business, Tom Brady, or this Las Vegas race.

735
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 5: Questionable investment from Tom Brady.

736
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: So that's interesting to me.

737
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: They gotta just just have a good bring out that

738
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: positivity rabbit and get the running game going. I am

739
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: as worried about the running game as I am. Jalen

740
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Hurts forty percent stuffed Right, here's the stat i ad

741
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: for you last week that's at or near the line

742
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: of scrimmage for takewuad Market forty percent of their runs

743
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: against the run defense you said isn't very good, which

744
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: maybe is true, but like, yeah.

745
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: Well you think ultimately, like Scotland University can only do

746
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 4: so much if there's no like laptops or pencils, and

747
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: when like Landon Dickerson is out there like with what

748
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: what's left of a leg trying to play where you

749
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: wonder like if Stoutland and the coaching staff are looking

750
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: up at Howie like you're.

751
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: Doing it again, Howie.

752
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: But as far as what's available for us here on

753
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: the offensive line, like maybe could have done something at

754
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: the deadline because this was a problem that kind of

755
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: persisted as the season went on.

756
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is supposed to return at some point. Hell

757
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: maybe you will be this week, maybe won't be, but

758
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a week to week thing.

759
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: Speaking of legs, my most exciting thing we've got about

760
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: this game six of Us is that we're going to

761
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: get to hear Greg Olsen, who competed with Tom Brady

762
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: or his in competition as a broadcaster with Tom Brady,

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: call a game uh pertaining to a true disaster of

764
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: an operation right now in the last potential spice m

765
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: But that's why I wouldn't call it a revenge game.

766
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: But I am excited about it.

767
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: But that's why you know, Tom like had Greg Olsen

768
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: on his podcast or vice versa in the offseason and tried,

769
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: you know that he was said that you know, he

770
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: was very nice to him and stuff and that they

771
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: they you know, tried to calm the waters that maybe.

772
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, g Rex is not going to take

773
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: open shots like he wasn't within that you know Patriots

774
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: situation wherever, you.

775
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: Know, competitors are always competitors, even and if they're not

776
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: playing anymore.

777
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 5: Maybe he's grounding tape a little.

778
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: I know, he's not cloning his dog, that's for sure.

779
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think there's a ton here.

780
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, if they don't, like even cover this number against

781
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders, that'd be a disappointment. I did notice the

782
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Siriani effect, I think on their offense, which you know

783
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: he was supposedly having a heavier hand and taking it

784
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: was a lot of empty last week didn't work very well,

785
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: but a lot of empty. And then I think the

786
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: more sticky part of it was they were taking more

787
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: shots and there were more like longer developing like throw

788
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: the ball down the field type plays in that game

789
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: against the defense designed to prevent that then almost all season.

790
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: So I do think maybe you'll see that more out

791
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: of the Eagles. It will work this week.

792
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it'll work better this week because what are

793
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 3: they going to be playing against? Single high all game.

794
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: That won't change.

795
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: They're going to need at least a two touchdown lead

796
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: in the final seconds, So Pete Carroll's going to kick.

797
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 5: That field goal. Great broke things a little better.

798
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: Also, by last point on that Bunny Nike was man.

799
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: Cooper dejen is a hell of a player to waw live.

800
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Just watch him on every play I'm like, that is

801
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: that is what an All pro looks like that he

802
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: was impressive.

803
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: He's so smooth the way that he attacks and constricts space.

804
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: Like if you if to really appreciate a player like that,

805
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: and I always used to do this with Jalen Ramsey,

806
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: was you have to watch the All twenty two like

807
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: skip you, we love you, Greg. We'll listen to the broadcast,

808
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: but skip the broadcast of this one and just watch

809
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 3: the All twenty two copy and just watch it because

810
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: it is. It's gorgeous, it's a thing. It's a work

811
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: of art, the way that they have that role in.

812
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: Another chance for a guy who's the sliding doors of

813
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: the NFL, Vic Fangio, where it's all connected to Vic.

814
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: Fangio and Brett Rippin.

815
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: The Washington Commanders on the road after getting toasted thirty

816
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: one to nothing against the Minnesota Vikings taking on the

817
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: New York Giants who are favored by two and a

818
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: half points. The over under is forty seven and a half.

819
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 4: Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma, they're on the call where

820
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: we get a chance to see Jackson Dart back up

821
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: against the defense that kind of struggled against j. J. McCarthy, Jordan,

822
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: how do you think Jackson Dart looks?

823
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Well?

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Oh uh, this should be fun, right, you know, I

825
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: think you'll see him.

826
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: It's the closest thing you've ever had to a non answer,

827
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: just like I don't have.

828
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: I don't have anything I.

829
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: Answer to me.

830
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: It's what's not being said. No, I mean, there I have.

831
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: It's it's it's amusing me actually, because going over our

832
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: notes every week and getting all these these notes ready

833
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: to go for this game. I sat and stared at

834
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: this bracket in my notes page for quite some time

835
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: because I have very little to say about this game.

836
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Well, the Giants haven't played, you know, they just had

837
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: to buy That first game back from Dart was uneven.

838
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: In general, I think he's been a pleasant surprise as

839
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: a rookie, and if he can close out strong this month,

840
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: that's important for him and the Giants, just because it's

841
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: been a really good rookie season. He does seem like

842
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: like I was talking about with Shadur, he's been at

843
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: another level of like I do feel like he's a

844
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: guy you can build around and see what you can

845
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: make happen. So you want to see him continue to

846
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: play well, and on the other side, like Jade Daniels

847
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: isn't playing and that's disappointing. He's had a really disappointing

848
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: season because he's been hurt, but even when he's been

849
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: on the field, it hasn't been the same, which makes

850
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: it more disappointing that he's not healthy. What can you do?

851
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: But it's another Marcus Mariota game. They're not ruling out

852
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels for the rest of the season. But reading

853
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: between the lines, yeah, I think that's that's on the table.

854
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: There's just no way to know where. Well.

855
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 3: They've got to rebuild, a partial rebuild at least ahead

856
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: of them, especially multiple positions along that defense. Really the

857
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: most intriguing thing. I think Jackson Dart's great. I think

858
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 3: he's going to be their quarterback. If he can stay

859
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: healthy and out of the blue tent, he will, He'll

860
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: be their quarterback for a while. I think he's got

861
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: an I've seen enough at this point, and he clearly

862
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: galvanizes his teammates. They like him, they like playing with him.

863
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: I would love to see him operate with a little

864
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: bit more of an arsenal around him what this actually

865
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: looks like. But for what three games. We just don't

866
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: really know. What I think is a more intriguing plot

867
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: point of the Giants season right now is like it's

868
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: like an episode of Traders or like Survivor or something.

869
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: Every week someone's getting voted off Giants Island. In this case,

870
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: Brian Cox, the defensive line coach, was fired by the team,

871
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: and reports, including by my colleague Dan Duggan at The Athletic,

872
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: said that it was because there was some agitation about

873
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: the seats on the team plane flying home, which Mike

874
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Kafka didn't quite address in his postgame or in his

875
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: press conference starting the week. So every week you're just

876
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: starting to see someone's getting voted off week by week

877
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: by week, in a slow drip until it's all gone.

878
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Shout out Brian Cox, still getting it done in the

879
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: NFL or not?

880
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: What now?

881
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm trying to imagine what the seat conversation, yeah,

882
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: could have possibly, Yeah.

883
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: I too, am curious about such a thing.

884
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 5: It's never just the seats, assuming there's some other stuff.

885
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, there was also some some some commentaries. This is why,

886
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they've had to deal with some crap.

887
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: That's a great beat up there because they know the

888
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 3: context of certain things. And and Dan was saying, Brian

889
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: Cox and Brian Dable very close, and so there's perhaps.

890
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: Well, so if you remember Brian Cox as a player,

891
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: maybe I'm aging myself here. Whether as a player or

892
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: as a coach, he does not seem like a man

893
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: who would suffer fools gladly or toe the company line.

894
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: He would be a line stepper in a fun way.

895
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: Possible for me, but maybe not for his bosses.

896
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: And like to his credit, right, yeah, you you know,

897
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: you're told to tow the company line.

898
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 5: But if you don't necessarily need it.

899
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he got some lined up on the outside.

900
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: Maybe you get some else line.

901
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: We just not and tell people what they can do

902
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: with a particular job.

903
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: You dn't see Defensive line coach Ryan Cock.

904
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 4: Jacobe Brissette and the Arizona Cardinals on the road taking

905
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: on the Houston Texans, who were favored by nine and

906
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: a half. They just keep winning, Greg Rosenthal. The over

907
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: under is forty two and a half. Chris Myers and

908
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: Mark Schliff there to watch a spectacular defense go up

909
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: up against the team that almost exclusively throws the ball.

910
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: At this point, it is outrageous. Trey Benson on the

911
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals is now out for the rest of the season.

912
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: There was some hope he would come back. In fact,

913
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: he returned to practice and then I guess it didn't

914
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: go well, And so that only outlines, yes, Patrick, that

915
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: they are a pass first attack and they like played

916
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: quite well like for a half against the Rams. The

917
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: problem on offense, You're giving me a rolling eyes. They

918
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: literally scored on their first like was it two or

919
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: three possessions, and then they had one drive where Jacoby

920
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: misses one and then suddenly they're down by two touchdowns

921
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: because the Rams are scoring a touchdown and it's just

922
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 1: every single drive.

923
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: It's it's tough to play football that way.

924
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: But it has been fun to see Trey McBride on

925
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: his path and this would be the biggest test possible

926
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: against this team. Although weirdly, the Texans have been bad

927
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: against like slot spot players this year and he's out

928
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: there sometimes.

929
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: But Aziz al sha has been great against tight end.

930
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: They're using him more in coverage. He totally locked down

931
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey. Now I think Trey McBride's playing better than

932
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: Travis kelcey of course right now. But but Aziz Al

933
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: Shaher is a monster in past defense.

934
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Right now, Mike McBride leads the NFL and receptions. He's

935
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: over nine hundred yards too, so I think he's on

936
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: his way to his first first team All Pro.

937
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Who else would it be? I think it's Trey McBride.

938
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: I love that, the one player I didn't curse this year.

939
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: There you go, he's too good to get cursed.

940
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: It is a little weird team the Texans favored by

941
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: nine and a half in the year twenty twenty five.

942
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: It really shows how many people are are going over

943
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: to your side, Patrick of them as a Super Bowl contender,

944
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: which I agree there, Well.

945
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: It's because of they got what you were calling four

946
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 4: weeks ago, just like normal. It's just ai offensive line,

947
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: normal regular and they have been and you know a

948
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: mid pressure where the Chiefs were crowding line, Spags was

949
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: blitzing Shroud what felt like the entire second half, even

950
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: you know, in situations where Andy Reid put them in

951
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 4: a position where they had to try to get negative

952
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: plays and you know, with bullets flying, Stroud looked pretty

953
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: solid to the extent where you know, we don't ever

954
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 4: since like the you make it the mac Wilson injury,

955
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 4: or maybe the the schedule for this Cardinals defense, where

956
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: it's just been a precipitous.

957
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Fall every week. They have some really crappy luck injury.

958
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson the tackle being won this week, last week's

959
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: brained mcl so he's going to be out, and that

960
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: just really stinks. They had. We like the Cardinals every

961
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: off season lately, very recently in terms of there. We

962
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: see their ideas, and we like some of their players,

963
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: and we like the way that some of the scheme

964
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: works and and all of that. But man, they can't close.

965
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: They can't close a game, and they can't close a season,

966
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: and it's just tough. It's a bad combo, and that's

967
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: why they're here right now. The thing about the Texans

968
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: that I love right now is that they're getting more

969
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: precision out of their young receiver c J. Stroud is

970
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: getting some great production from Jayden Higgins out of Iowa State,

971
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: who they absolutely love. They love that receiver's room and

972
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: that coach Matt Campbell so much in fact, that they

973
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: drafted his teammate as well. But Jaden Higgins is playing

974
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: great and they're getting just they look like you said

975
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: they look normal. They look at least middle of the

976
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: pack on offense. And when you have a defense as

977
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: elite as that group is, you can work with that.

978
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: And you can run on this Cardinals team what he

979
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: marksmiths practice Wednesday. But he did that last week too,

980
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna be fine. They need him

981
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: to be fine. Nick Chubb is a little bang up,

982
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: but you're right, Higgins is kind of playing the role

983
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: that I thought Christian Kirk would play. Kirk is out there,

984
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: he's playing. They actually have a lot of weapons. Texans

985
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: are alive.

986
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: One of the throws that Shroud missed me every week

987
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: great protection on was to Christian Kirk. So maybe they

988
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: get everything going as we get to I do own

989
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: apology to Brady Cook. I was unfamiliar with his game

990
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: last week. I've done a little more digging. I'm looking

991
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: back to, you know, his first big playing time in

992
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: college football against Georgia when they lost forty three to six.

993
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: But he got better, he went on and he made

994
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: his way to the National Football League. And now we

995
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 4: may have Brady Cook planned for the Jets with Tarad

996
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: Taylor in his growing injury on the road at the

997
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: Red Hot Jacksonville, Jack Warters Jordan, who were favored about

998
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: twelve and a half points. Tom McCarthy and Ross Tucker

999
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: on the call the over under his forty one and

1000
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: a half. Can the Jets do anything to slow down

1001
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 4: this red hot Jackson?

1002
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: I love what the Jags are doing right now. I

1003
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: do want to apologize to the Jets and to Brady

1004
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Cook because when I watched that I had that game

1005
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: last week. One thing that I had dominantly in my

1006
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: notes that I should have mentioned or should have pushed

1007
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: in somehow inta probably rambling about some nonsense like I

1008
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: tend to do, would was how many drops the receivers had.

1009
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: Brady kept put a couple of nice throws together. He

1010
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: put together a d a really nice drive at the

1011
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: end of the game before he was ultimately intercepted. But

1012
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: on a would be touchdown, it'll advise throw also, so

1013
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: those are also happening. But he had probably in the

1014
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: double digits of passes dropped by his receivers in that

1015
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: game last week. Now does that make a difference against

1016
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: the Jags this week? No, I don't think so. Trevor

1017
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: Lawrence is coming off the best game of his career.

1018
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: There to me, there is that this is not.

1019
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: An argument for like, he had some pretty good three games.

1020
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: The level of Trevor, but this wasn't a this wasn't

1021
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: a downpour, Greg. This was in a downpour where you

1022
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: expect the Carson Wentz level of modern Carson Wentz Trevor

1023
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: Lawrence to emerge, right, and instead he was a better

1024
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: version of Trevor Lawrence, and he was a more he

1025
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: had more personality and talking to people over in Jacksonville,

1026
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: they love that his personality is emerging, that he's not

1027
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 3: so within himself or maybe like even a little shell

1028
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: shocked from some of the stuff that he's gone through

1029
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: and observed. Just organizationally over the last couple of years.

1030
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: He's like butting heads with Liam Cohen on the sideline

1031
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: and he's similar to what we talked about justin Herbert

1032
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: early a little bit earlier this year when he did

1033
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: the point, the first down points and all this stuff. Yeah,

1034
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: his personality as who they want him to be as

1035
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 3: this quarterback is coming out. That's a good thing. That's

1036
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: a very good thing. And it matches the level of

1037
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: aggressiveness and enthusiasm that the rest of this team is

1038
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: playing with and really has played with all season.

1039
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote down in my notes like athletic arrogance

1040
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: from Lawrence. I love we he was playing cocky, like

1041
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: the throws he was trying. He's always a guy who

1042
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: tries stuff. But some of the running he has looked

1043
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: to run more the last couple of weeks. We talked

1044
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: all off season that the one fly in the ointment

1045
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: with the Jags was Liam Cohen was brought in to

1046
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: help bring Trevor to the next level and we wanted

1047
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: to see it click. And I think the last two

1048
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: weeks are the best two weeks even all extended back

1049
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: a week that he's had since that twenty two season

1050
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: in which he somehow got an MVP like boat lower down.

1051
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: How did that happen? Really on that nine of.

1052
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: Eight Jackson, But he he had a little stretch in

1053
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: that season where he was absolutely on fire, and in

1054
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks really remind me that. And

1055
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: I thought the biggest development in the game other than

1056
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: that was it was a great Brian Thomas junior game.

1057
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: It looked like the old Brian Thomas junior. He had

1058
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: one like really routine catch which actually was over the

1059
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: middle of the field.

1060
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: Oh cut. It was more just like sit in the

1061
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: zone type of play.

1062
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: But his speed makes a zone look so much slower

1063
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: because like he just gets to that spot so fast,

1064
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: and Trevor threw it with anticipation and he's opened by

1065
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: like ten yards because they you just can't account for

1066
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: that kind of speed on like an intermediate route. And

1067
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: then he had two great other catches, you know, one

1068
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: on the sideline on one of the best throws of

1069
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: the year by by Lawrence and another WITCHI babble a

1070
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: little bit like on a slot fade, but he caught

1071
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: it in the end and h like three big time plays.

1072
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: And like Jacoby Myers is great, but Jacoby Myers doing

1073
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: his Jacoby Myers thing with a truly explosive weapon next

1074
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: to him that now you're cooking with gas.

1075
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: You get a chance to see the vision.

1076
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: Agenda, the Jordan agenda.

1077
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: But also on that on that BTJ catch on the sideline,

1078
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 4: also on the t Higgins touchdown. We gotta we gotta

1079
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: clear up in the rule book what hand fighting is,

1080
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: because when the receivers are making these catches with one

1081
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: hand because the other one is being grabbed and held,

1082
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: it's that's fast serferent like the I know BTJ bobbled

1083
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: it because he only had one harm YEP with which

1084
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: to work with. We gotta we gotta start throwing that.

1085
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: I love it. I think Parker Washington's going to be

1086
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: back this week. He sit the game last week with

1087
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: like a weird couple of weeks ago, right with the yeah,

1088
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: super weird moment where he like doubled over. He's grabbing

1089
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: his side out of nowhere. He is an absolutely electric

1090
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 3: kickoff in punt return, so their special teams has really

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00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: come along. But also he's really finding a niche inside

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Speaker 3: the offense as well. Him and Jacoby Myers are rotating

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00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: with each other like sort of orbiting around inside and

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00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: outside of the slot. And that's interesting to me because,

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Speaker 3: as we you know, I'm personally invested in this passing

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Speaker 3: game and I am so interested in how many combinations

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Speaker 3: they can deploy. Out of the fact that they're not

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Speaker 3: just using Jacoby Myers on the perimeter, nor Brian Thomas Junior,

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Speaker 3: nor Parker Washington. These guys are starting to interchange in

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Speaker 3: a way that we know that this offense goes to

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Speaker 3: the next level and takes another step forward when it

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Speaker 3: can it can run all of those different types of

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Speaker 3: combinations against the defense and do so effectively and really

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Speaker 3: really well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, where does once we get back in terms

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Speaker 4: of health? If if Parker Washington comes back, Britain strange,

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00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: Kobe Myers, that's a pretty damn good BTJ Parker Washington.

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Speaker 3: This silt.

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Speaker 5: It looks pretty good. Ellen.

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Speaker 4: An update from early Greg, the line has gone back

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Speaker 4: to the Buffalo bill.

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Speaker 2: Wait, were we just wrong earlier? What happened?

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00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 5: The line moves because they want to spur.

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Speaker 3: Actually they're listening to Greg.

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: That is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And yes, we have just wrapped up The Texans and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are in a new place in their season where

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Speaker 1: they are favored heavily. Can they both just take care

1121
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: of business take another step to the playoffs. The Jaguars

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00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: could be ten and four after this week. All they

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Speaker 1: gotta do is beat Brady Cook and they are getting healthier.

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Speaker 1: Patrick McCary, Robert Hainsey. The interior line was back last week.

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Speaker 1: Trevon Walker is now healthy. Will you healthy again? Like

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are a Super Bowl contender? I truly believe

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Speaker 1: every team as currently you know how the AFC looks

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Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I take all the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, we miss you, Patrick McCarry. That's it.

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Speaker 2: We did it Week fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Excellent slate early and late, and yes we're back to

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Speaker 1: having a full fifteen games, so we'll be back on

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Speaker 1: Sunday to recap all that. Before that, you will hear

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Speaker 1: a number of exciting shows in the feed. Of course,

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00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: our usual Picks against the Spread, the greatest streak in

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Speaker 1: sports continued because of that Monday night victory by the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Ten straight winning weeks on the Picks against the Spread

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Speaker 1: Pod with Cynthia, and then we of course have our

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Speaker 1: Saturday siccos with all Econnolly. But most importantly, we've got

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrieg in her new series coming up, Power Players,

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Speaker 1: So check that all out. It's coming later this week

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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. Let's get out of here.

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Speaker 2: A lot of honk. You did it. We were just

1145
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: ready with that.

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 5: Also full of delay.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he's a showman.

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Speaker 1: See you next time on NFL Daily