1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Tina. As always, thank you so much for giving us 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of your busy schedule. Now, the government 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: has this Global Investment Summit on Monday here in the UK. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: It will be one of the first times that international 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: investors really get to know this new administration. Do you 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: think they've done enough to try and attract investment to 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: the UK. 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: No, it's early days. I think they've absolutely set up 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: their stall and it's right that they have put investment 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: and growth at the heart of their strategy. The question 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: is how do they do it and what is the 12 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: role of government in terms of really unlocking private capital, 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: and that's both international capital and domestic capital. So having 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: the opportunity to have this Global Investment Summit next week, 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: I think is a great opportunity really for the government 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: to set out its stall and really put a little 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: bit more flesh on some of the ideas around, for example, 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: the National Wealth Fund, and particularly the role of the 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: UK Infrastructure Bank and the British Business Bank in terms 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: of working with the private sector to de risk some 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: of these sort of longer term investments that are so 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: needly needed in the UK. 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Are you optimistic about the prospects of the UK economy, 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: but also you know, outside investment, I. 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: Am actually I mean, look, this year, we do expect 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: there to be quite sluggish growth in the UK economy. 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: We've only had one into straight cut so far this year, 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: even though we're expecting another one later on in the year. 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: But we do expect the pace of those cuts to 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: accelerate into twenty twenty five, so that does create a 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: positive backdrop for growth. And at the same time, really 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: what we're hearing from clients, and this is both international 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: and domestic, is what they really value is the political 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: stability that has been brought to the UK after the 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: general election, but most importantly wanting to see predictability and 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: policy stability to allow them to invest in long dated opportunities. 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: So you know, do you think that you know, the 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: October thirtieth budget is a really big test for the 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: government as again the labor probably hasn't been in power 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. So what I'm hearing from big 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: international investors is that they want to see really what 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: it's about, and it's the first time we get a 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: properate test. 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. So all attention is really focused on 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: October thirty and we've already seen there's quite a lot 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: of speculation with regard to what is going to be 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: in the budget. You know, we have seen guilt yields rise, 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, over the last week as there have been 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: some concerns around increased investment spending. But certainly I think 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: the government has done the right thing in terms of 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: just setting out their intention around the right guardrails, the 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: fact that that investment is not going to come all 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: in one go, it's going to be phased across the 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: electoral cycle, and most importantly that they intend on working 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: closely with both the OBR and the National Debt Office 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: or the National Audit Office, because that will reassure both 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: domestic and international investors. 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: What are you most excited about in the UK? I 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: know there, you know, there needs to be more apos 60 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: at some point hopefully. Is London the right place for that? 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, for me, the UK is 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: the gateway to the world. And actually when we look 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: at the IPO market here in London, it has actually 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: performed pretty well compared to previous years. So we have 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: seen a significant increase in IPOs, admittedly from a low base, 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: it's up about fifty percent so far this year, but 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: most importantly, those IPOs have performed very well, So I 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: think there is a backdrop with the rising foot seat 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: and the interstrate environment. That actually means the backdrop in 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: terms of the macro environment is actually looking broadly positive 71 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five. And certainly when we speak to 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: the C suite and to our corporate clients, they continue 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: to look for opportunities to invest, so that is key. 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: So corporate balance sheets are strong. There's been a lot 75 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: of financing which has gone in the deck capital markets, 76 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: both for M and a financing hybrid capital refise, liability 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: management exercises, so that means that we don't see much 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: stress in the system, which I think is also important. 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: You've been in charge of ze Group UKIT for a year? 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Has it been? I mean there's been a lot going 81 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: on at the bank. 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: There has There's always a lot going on at City, 83 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: but the year has flown by and I really remain 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: so excited about the opportunity in the UK. You know, 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: where I've really been focused on is really taking advantage 86 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: of cities global network. We're in ninety six different countries, 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: but really focusing on those key trade corridors for US. 88 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: So we're looking to grow business between London and New York. 89 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 2: Of course the US is our home market, but also 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: in fast growing regions such as the Middle East and 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: in countries such as India. So for me, it's not 92 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: just about our banking business, but it is also about 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: how can we deliver one city through our markets, our 94 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: wealth and of course our world class services franchise. 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: We are basically one year on from the biggest reorganization 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: of City Group, with the chief executive Jane Fraser, putting 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: a number of things in place, and you were talking 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: about how you're also taking advantage of some of the 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: unique challenges but opportunities that you have. What's been the 100 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: biggest difference, So we have. 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Really simplified our management structures. It sounds very mundane, but 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: things like fewer committees, fewer meetings, fewer management layers. We've 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: reduced management layers in some cases down to twelve from 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen seventeen, you know, so that means we're able 105 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: to really speed up decision making much better and drive accountability. 106 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: So that really has been I think the biggest change. 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Will you hire people in the UK now that you've 108 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: kind of do have it where you want it? To 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: be eaten. 110 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: We're pretty much at the right size. We will continue 111 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: to hire selectively as we always have done. So we've 112 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: recently had our new head of our commercial bank for 113 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: the UK join he joined last week James Morris, and 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: of course at our most senior levels we've been able 115 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: to hire some really world class talent with this Ragavan 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: joining as head of Banking Tim Ryan in terms of technology, 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: so it is less about actually hiring significantly. We will 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: always be strategic around needing to fill fill roles, but 119 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: at the same time we have a deep bench at cities, 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: so it's also around giving people within our own organization 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: the ability to step up. 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Do you know when you look at Europe, I mean 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: the banking world was like with speculation and then I 124 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: guess almost confirmation that there could be a merger although 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: the Germans don't want it. But between Commerce Bank and UniCredit, 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: how does that change the banking landscape and you your world? 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: So, I mean the European banking sector has been highly 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: fragmented forever and there has been lots of discussion over 129 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: the years around the need for banking union, capital markets union. 130 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: So certainly from our perspective, I mean we have a 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: significant presence in Europe in many different countries. So for us, 132 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: really any developments that require or actually allow for a 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: greater free flow of capital across the region we would 134 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: welcome because that allows us to deliver our cross border 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: capabilities more effectively. So we look on with interest. 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: But is it a litmus test of whether there's you know, 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: appetite for a political banking consolidation. 138 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: I think it's certainly going to be an important moment 139 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: for European banks, and I think it's interesting both. You know, 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: some of the comments that have come out from Mario 141 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Draghi in his most recent report around competitiveness in the EU, 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: around regulation and again the need to drive capital markets union, 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I think all plays into I think this next phase. 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Do you know when you look at you know, I 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: guess the banking landscape here in London. I know you're 146 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: committed to Canary Wharf, but also maybe looking at other places, 147 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: what do you think happens to Canary Wharf? 148 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: Well, as you know, Francine, we are committed to Canary 149 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Wolf are in the middle of a significant renovation of 150 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: our iconic city tower that's going to be completed in 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: the middle of twenty six. So when that's done, we 152 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: will have ten thousand people in London, the majority of 153 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: which will be at the wharf. So I think it's 154 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: a great environment to work in and I think what 155 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Showby is doing with regard to that mixed use, I 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: think is to be welcomed. We also have four thousand 157 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: people in Belfast, so that has grown from the low 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: two hundreds twenty years ago. So again that is a 159 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: region that we are very committed to. 160 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Tina, thanks so much as always for coming on, Tina Lee. 161 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: They're chief executive of City Group UK. Now coming up 162 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: as