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Speaker 1: What does happened?

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Speaker 2: Everybodyday?

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Speaker 3: Welcome in to a Monday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 3: As we inch ever so closer to the start of

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Speaker 3: training camp right here in the city of Houston, schedule

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Speaker 3: put out there will be eight days for fans to

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Speaker 3: go see training camp, but we still have a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks until we get there. So we got to

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Speaker 3: just kind of just ramp up, slowly but surely. And

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Speaker 3: that's what I your host, John Harris, foot planalist and

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Speaker 3: silent report for the Houston Texas and the voice of

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Speaker 3: the Texans, Mark vandermil Vandermier, will attempt to do today

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Speaker 3: temper expectations, but build up ever so slowly.

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Speaker 2: Mark, how is your weekend? I mean, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not tempering expectations. Let's go for it. Come on, well,

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Speaker 1: go for it. Doesn't mean expectations, I mean those are

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Speaker 1: always the desires of the team to go as far

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Speaker 1: as possible, h and as far as expectations go, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I do expect this team to be really good. And

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Speaker 1: there's so much talk around the league about these ranking lists, teams,

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Speaker 1: position groups, positions. Today we're gonna do quarterbacks. I love

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Speaker 1: all of it, and I'll tell you this about ramping

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Speaker 1: up as well. I see a lot of guys around

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Speaker 1: the building. They're getting ready. They know what's coming. If

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Speaker 1: you're not ready to go in two weeks, if you're

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Speaker 1: out of shape or not in as good shape as

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Speaker 1: you could be, you are gonna pay the price. So

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Speaker 1: I think they're all ready to go, whether they're working

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Speaker 1: out here or not, and used to the heat, acclimated

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Speaker 1: to Houston, all the conditions, all the trimmings, better be

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Speaker 1: ready to go. And we better be ready to go

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Speaker 1: as well, because we're gonna be live starting July twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: eight to ten am. Let's rock.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I got chills when you said Mark, I

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Speaker 3: got to say. Look, I love the games. On Sunday, Thursday, Saturday,

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Speaker 3: whatever day we're playing on. I mean that is that

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Speaker 3: is some of the most fun because the five of us,

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Speaker 3: you know, Andre with us on the mic and then

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Speaker 3: Robert Nearn making sure everything goes smoothly for us. I

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Speaker 3: love those days because it's all five of us. But

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Speaker 3: man to tell you that any camp shows what we

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Speaker 3: get a chance to be able to do.

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Speaker 2: And we'll be.

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Speaker 3: Stationed right there at the at the gate where everybody's

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Speaker 3: walking in and everybody comes over and says hi to

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Speaker 3: us and wants to get on the air and buy

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Speaker 3: all of them, I mean none of them really, There's

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Speaker 3: only like a couple of them that come over. Like

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Speaker 3: Daria Guombwale would always come over. I miss Darry Gosh,

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Speaker 3: I miss Darry What a what an absolute just dude

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was just fantastic. But this is a

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Speaker 2: it's a really good team.

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Speaker 3: I mean I've talked to I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: people that you know outside the city and they're like, well,

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Speaker 3: what's your what's your year look like? How you guys

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Speaker 3: look And I just it's really the first time that

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Speaker 3: I've said this, I think ever about the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 3: I just look at him and say, look, if we

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Speaker 3: stay healthy, we're really freaking good.

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Speaker 2: Like we're really freaking good.

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Speaker 3: And and that I think is I mean, and by good,

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Speaker 3: I mean talented. I mean, we'll see what kind of

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Speaker 3: team we are. But I think it's important that when

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Speaker 3: we talk about, you know, how good we can be.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent here.

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of whether that talent comes together

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Speaker 3: to create a team like they did last year, a

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Speaker 3: team that fought through some adversity at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the year, became a team and then won twelve out

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Speaker 3: won a playoff game on the road. And that was

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Speaker 3: a team that was a talented group of guys I

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Speaker 3: turned into a team, And hopefully this one is the same.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's even more talent on this team,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be a better team than they were

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Speaker 1: last year, and they should be a team that does

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Speaker 1: still look at Bills, Bengals and the amount of respect

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Speaker 1: is we'll get to that in just a moment here.

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Speaker 1: So I look at all of this and say they're

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Speaker 1: another thing we could talk about. But I think he

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Speaker 1: still have a hell of a season because the schedule

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Speaker 1: can't assume you're going to have this sort of historic

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Speaker 3: And one of the defenders who has been here for

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Speaker 3: four or five in his fourth year, but really kind

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Speaker 3: He would join us a little bit while later in

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Speaker 3: the show. But Mark, I'm gonna ask you this question,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna get to something. You kind of alluded

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Speaker 3: CJ out of the equation. Which quarterback If you had

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Speaker 3: fixes your collar bone in a snap like that guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What quarterback would that be?

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Speaker 1: It's Patrick Mahomes, Johnny. As painful as it is for

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Speaker 1: I look at who I fear at quarterback, right and

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Speaker 1: fear slash respect, you know, biblical fear. If you will,

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Speaker 1: you look at Josh Allen. They're all great, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, we'll get to it all, but Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: I pick a healthy Mahomes to get it done for me. Well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, Mark, he threw three picks against the

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Speaker 1: Texans on a Sunday night in December last year. Look

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Speaker 1: there were still very much in the conversation, not having

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Speaker 1: all of it. He's the most dangerous guy out there

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Speaker 1: I have to give it to him.

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Speaker 2: What about you.

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Speaker 3: This is where it's tough, because you know, like you said,

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Speaker 3: last year when we faced Mahomes picked him off three times.

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Speaker 3: He had one of his worst games against our defense.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of assessing it against our defense, which is

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Speaker 3: a little is tough because that's what we've seen. The

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Speaker 3: But the one quarterback that from the time that he

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Speaker 3: of times he's faced the Texans since, he has just

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Speaker 2: And that's Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Now, he doesn't get out of the pocket and move,

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Speaker 3: apt to say, yeah, like one hundred percent, lock it

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Speaker 3: off a bad back, which we talked about all last summer.

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Speaker 3: How did that come to fruition and dimed us throughout

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Speaker 3: the game. You know, Matt Stafford is a guy that

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Speaker 3: Last time we saw Joe Burrow, he threw a couple

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Speaker 3: of the prettiest balls I've ever seen. But I bring

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Speaker 2: So I would imagine azas.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow wide receivers Nico in the top ten and the safeties,

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Speaker 3: I mean, as much as I just have seen Kaylen

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Speaker 2: But we mentioned those four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: The executives across the NFL ranked those four this way.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen number one highest ranking was number one, is

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Speaker 3: so he overtook number two who was number one last year,

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Speaker 3: ranking five. Interesting, I wonder who that other court?

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Speaker 1: Lamar's got the other guy.

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Speaker 3: And at number four Joe Burrow highest ranking one, lost

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Speaker 3: ranking six last year he was three. So those four

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Speaker 2: Hey, last year we did.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we brought Stafford in because we're like, well,

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Speaker 3: Caleb at number ten, Okay, you're right that one's kind

438
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: of banking on growth. Some of the physical things that

439
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: he did last year. I mean, those throws that he

440
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: made against Green Bay in the playoff game were just

441
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 3: absolutely just sick.

442
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: There's a presumption that he's going to get better, Johnny,

443
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: and look, I'm off of that. I'm an optimist and

444
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: all that, So I would say, yeah, Caleb Williams continues

445
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: to improve, continues to ascend year threes better than year two,

446
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: which was a lot better than year one.

447
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: We get it.

448
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: And the coaching goes a long way here as well.

449
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: We talked about fit. So yeah, I could project Williams

450
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: to be certainly a top ten quarterback in this league.

451
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: But I gotta see it like everything else. And look,

452
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: these are what these lists are for. It's July. We

453
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: got nothing else. We're doing this. I love the honorable

454
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: mentions we can get to some of those. Back to GoF,

455
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Pocket passer gets it done. Been

456
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl with the Rams, you know, kind

457
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: of got close with the Lions operated arguably the best

458
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: offense in the league, or one of the top three

459
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: in the league with the Lions at their peak, and

460
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Speaker 1: I know last year didn't go as well. You brought

461
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: up Herbert another example to bring up regarding I don't

462
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: have a running game the way Josh Allen does, the

463
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: way name another guy Jared Goff does. I mean, look

464
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: at what GoF has in the backfield with him, right,

465
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: Herbert last year, Vidal, you know, Hampton, you know, incompletes,

466
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: and so Herbert has to run for almost five hundred

467
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: yards to keep the Chargers afloat. And the toughness the

468
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: loss to New England, he got pounded He's all they

469
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: had after a while, so yeah, he is super tough

470
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: and did see Maddison and Beers concerts are just not

471
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: drawing as well as they want a lot of empt seeds,

472
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: and it's a big problem. They're blaming Herbert for this

473
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: because hey, he can't get it done in the postseason

474
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: and can't help his girlfriend draw crowd at her concerts.

475
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: It's a big problem. So that's another conversation for another day. Yeah,

476
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: I know, poor guy. Sorry Madison, Well, more time to

477
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: spend it home then, not a bad thing like this.

478
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Speaker 3: When they wrote up Caleb, Jeremy Fowler wrote this, here's

479
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 3: where it gets interesting. Four quarterbacks, Now, which of these

480
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: other three would you have thought about putting in front

481
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: of Caleb? Seattle, Sam Darnold, Green Bay's Jordan Love, and

482
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels were all very close in voting

483
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: for the tenth spot, so they took it the tiebreakers,

484
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: gathering input from several GMS executives, and Williams barely edged

485
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Speaker 3: them out for the tenth spot.

486
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Speaker 1: Johnny, I want to ask you like this, you're a

487
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: general manager. You got to play this season, not ten seasons,

488
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: this season, one game but a whole season with a

489
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's gonna stay healthy. I'll give you Caleb Williams,

490
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, Jayden Daniels, or Sam Darnold who you got.

491
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Speaker 3: I've always been a Caleb guy because I always feel

492
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: like there's gonna come a point in a game where

493
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: he can do something that nobody else in the league

494
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: can do, right, And I just that I always like

495
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: having that in this final sentence of the paragraph, I think,

496
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: or actually final two sentences kind of tell everything. Why

497
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: did Williams barely win out for the final spot on

498
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: the list. He's the hardest of the four for teams

499
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: to prepare for and defend, and that I always think about.

500
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: I always think about from a defensive coordinator standpoint, how

501
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 3: tough is a guy to prepare for? And I think

502
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: I think Caleb's very tough to prepare for. Look, Sam's

503
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: a much better athlete than a lot of people want

504
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 3: to let on. Jordan Love and Jane Daniels are tremendous athletes.

505
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: They can run and do things. But Caleb, because of

506
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: the I mean that play he has against the Rams

507
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: that sent the game to overtime. He ran back forty

508
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: yards and threw it fifty yards basically on line to

509
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: Cole Comet for a touchdown, Like I don't, I mean,

510
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: maybe Josh does that. Maybe right. So he's doing things

511
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: that you honestly just like. But what was the next attempt?

512
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know.

513
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: Then he throws a pick. So there's that's why he

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: can't and not second. That's why he can't and not second.

515
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: I'll give you another number. You want another number, KILLERB.

516
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Williams twenty twenty five, Ben Johnson coaching. We're going places, right,

517
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: We're going We threw twenty seven touchdown, seven picks. That's awesome.

518
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Completion percentage fifty eight interesting, interesting, yards per attempt less

519
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: than seven interesting. I'm looking at those numbers. Now, those

520
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: should be better, that part of it should be better

521
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. But it's another will see. So

522
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: you're betting. It's speculation. You're betting that he's going to

523
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: improve in twenty twenty six if you put him at

524
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: a top tense right now.

525
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna reach you it. I'm gonna reach you

526
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: a paragraph on that. On that note, real fast. About

527
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams. His twenty point two percent off target rate

528
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: was thirty seventh out of thirty eight quarterbacks. So yeah,

529
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: he's got some things to work on. This is what

530
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: a defensive coach said about Caleb Williams. Now, I want

531
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: you to hear this about Caleb Williams, but I want

532
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: to ask you does this apply to another quarterback that

533
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: we know, well, okay, wildly erratic? Does it always take

534
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: the layups and still needs to mature into the position.

535
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: He has some of those what is he doing plays?

536
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: But he also makes plays only he and a couple

537
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks can make.

538
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: He can throw from any angle.

539
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 3: Deceptibly fast when forced to scramble, and he's got the

540
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: it factor in crunch time. I hear that, and there's

541
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: a lot of that paragraph I think about CJ about now.

542
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I would say CJ is.

543
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: Wildly erraticalut up the fingers and air cos now, but

544
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: I do think there are times where CJ could take

545
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: the layups a little bit more. And I think that

546
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: all these young quarterbacks still need to mature into the position.

547
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: But he can throw.

548
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: He can drop down and throw side on when he

549
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: needs to do always, but he sneaks to around the

550
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: defender at times. He is definitely deceptively fast and when

551
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: he's forced to scramble, he can make a play. What

552
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: we haven't had a chance to see the last couple

553
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: of years, though, is really CJ and crunch time. You know,

554
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: we've we've been more of the hey, we've got the lead,

555
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: the defense.

556
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Is gonna hold it, sort of get out of the game.

557
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: Last time we yeah, the last time we've really kind

558
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: of seen him in crunch time, like, hey man, we

559
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: gotta go make some plays. That was back in his

560
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: rookie year and he was fantastic against Cincinnati, Tampa Bay.

561
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

562
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: He was tremendous down to stretch in those games. Twenty

563
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: four against Jacksonville in Week four, I can that was

564
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: one I remember a crunch time and last year he

565
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: would have led us to a game time touchdown against

566
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: Jacksonville had he gotten just another half second of time

567
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: before Josh Heine's allen at the ball out of his hands.

568
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: So I feel like some of that relates to CJ

569
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: as well. So I know people are wondering, Okay, well

570
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: or CJ's an honorable mention No in order, Sam Donald,

571
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, Jordan Love, Brock, Purty Baker, Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence,

572
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. Then they had three also receiving votes bow Nicks,

573
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and CJ.

574
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Stroud. Well, the question I asked you about, who would

575
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: you take to lead your team for one season? You're

576
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback and it's a pretty decent team, and

577
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: you can have any number of quarterbacks. Let's go with

578
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: the honorable mention, Sam Donald, Jayden Daniels, Jordan Love. You

579
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: just read the names Brock Purty, Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence,

580
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and I'll throw CJ in here as well.

581
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: He's in the other receiving votes category or also receiving

582
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: votes in this case with Daniel Jones and bow Nicks. Well,

583
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: I thought Nicks might get a little more love than this.

584
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: But look, we could talk about all these guys.

585
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: For hours on end.

586
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: I'll look at the name Trevor Lawrence right here and wonder, Okay,

587
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: we're drafting a team. Are we taking Lawrence above CJ?

588
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so for most GMS. Maybe I'm wrong.

589
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: You know, Baker Mayfield, Okay, Mayfield, you give him a

590
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: healthy running game and a good team. I feel like

591
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Mayfield has proven himself to be a winner. But CJ,

592
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: it's not like he hasn't He's coming off an offseason

593
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: where he performed poorly, did get a win. We all

594
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: know what happened against New England. We have to rewhind

595
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: ourselves and everybody else as we have these conversations. Johnny.

596
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: That's what's so perplexing. It's not like the regular season

597
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: for CJ. In twenty twenty five. He lit it up.

598
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: But I thought he played well coming off the three

599
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: game absence due to the concussion, and I thought he

600
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: brought the plane in for a nice solid landing with

601
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: a winning streak that didn't end. And in games where

602
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: all right, we need a big one today, we need

603
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: a good outing. He gets us off to a great

604
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: start against the Chargers, Bang bang, fourteen nothing. I know

605
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't a great second half, but look fourteen nothing

606
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: with this defense over basically you know the way they

607
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: were playing, and I think that figures into it as well.

608
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Quarterback always has to fit into the context of your

609
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: team and the games they are playing at that time,

610
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: in the context of having an other worldly defense to

611
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: help you out. Would you take Jordan Love above Brock

612
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Purdy Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence, and Jalen Hurts. I'm not

613
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: so sure I would. I think i'd take Jalen Hurts

614
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: maybe above all those guys, except for maybe Mayfield, just

615
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: because I know it hasn't always looked good. But the

616
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: guy's a freaking winner. The guy gets the thing across

617
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: the goal line any which way he can. I like

618
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: the way Jalen Hurts plays. If I'm an Eagles fan,

619
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe I don't because I'm on the outside looking in.

620
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: But there's a lot to talk about. That's why I

621
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: said the whole thing is a mishmash. When you get

622
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: past number five, six through the last guy and others

623
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: receiving votes, you could make cases for all of them

624
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: back and forth between that sixth and fifteenth or whatever

625
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: it is ranking. Yeah, that's exactly right.

626
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: It's a lot like an NFL draft usually from pick

627
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: twenty through pick fifty, those guys could all be thrown into,

628
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, a pot. You throw out the names and

629
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: line them up, and you wouldn't be surprised at any

630
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: one of those. I think what stands out to me

631
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: and the honorable mentions for the most part, except for

632
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: maybe one, but I think one of these guys they're

633
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: banking on, well, what he did is a rookie and

634
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: he was too banged up last year to kind of

635
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: see any of the wars. That's Jane Daniels, but Donald

636
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: Love Purty, even Mayfield a little bit, Trevor Lawrence, Jalen Hurts.

637
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: They need, they need excellence around them to be able

638
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: to get to a higher level.

639
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: They aren't.

640
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't think gonna raise everybody's game.

641
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: I think they've got to have excellence to be able

642
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: to play at a high level. And I think you know,

643
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: when you talk about the top five guys, those guys

644
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: just raised the level of everybody around them. I damn

645
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: Look Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow's got Jamar Chase and T Higgins, Like,

646
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: I get that. But Andrea Yoshavas, He's like turned it

647
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: into one of the better number.

648
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: Two, number three receivers in the league.

649
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Burrow has helped do that.

650
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: So and I bring you to what an AFC offensive

651
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Speaker 3: coach said about Trevor Lawrence. He plays better ball when

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Speaker 3: the offensive infrastructure and personnel around him set up for

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Speaker 3: success instead of instead of asking him to do everything

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Speaker 3: on your own, and then there's a thought about Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 3: about these guys. Honorable mention, but still from Dak Prescott

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Speaker 3: through CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we could do this analysis halfway through the year.

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Speaker 3: I could say I wouldn't be surprised to see those

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Speaker 3: names and see him in a jumbled order, but all

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Speaker 3: obviously behind those top five guys the definite tier one

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Speaker 3: in the league.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think Prescott is a good quarterback. He's been

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Speaker 1: in the league ten years. Johnny's won two playoff games,

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Speaker 1: all right. He has not performed like an elite quarterback,

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Speaker 1: There's no question, and he has some elite numbers. I

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Speaker 1: know all the annalys are there and everything, but some

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Speaker 1: of this is just basically, can you get me the

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Speaker 1: dub in that time of year?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And Jadon Daniels. I like Jayden Daniels. Look, the rookie

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Speaker 1: year was amazing, blah blah blah. Last year, it's people

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Speaker 1: act like he didn't even play. Oh, you missed the

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Speaker 1: whole season. He was two and five sixty percent completions. No,

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Speaker 1: he did take care of the football interception wise, only

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Speaker 1: three picks. But it wasn't a great season for Jadeen

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Speaker 1: Daniels and Kingsbury's gone and I don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in year three. But they give him the

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Speaker 1: benefit of a doubt. Why doesn't CJ get any benefit

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Speaker 1: of a doubt? He gets you there. I know he

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Speaker 1: didn't do well against New England. I mean that's an understatement,

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Speaker 1: but he got you there. He got you to that point.

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Speaker 1: Jadeen Daniels didn't get a chance to fail in the

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Speaker 1: postseason because he got hurt and didn't play well enough.

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Speaker 1: So there's that that goes into it as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But there's a lot of goes into the

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Speaker 3: defensive side. Hoping these quarterbacks are all harassed by one

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Speaker 3: Dylan Horton. He joins us next right here in Texans

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Speaker 3: All Access. What's happening, everybody? Welcome back to seven to

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Speaker 3: one three day. Yes, July thirteenth. Wherever you are, you

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Speaker 3: should be celebrating your zip code. Yeah, you might be

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Speaker 3: two eight one, you might be three four six, but

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Speaker 3: down deep, you are a seven to one to three person.

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Speaker 3: You're a lover of Houston and you're fan of Houston Texans,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate you being here with me on Texans

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Speaker 3: All Access. Hopefully you are taking it in, enjoying the

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Speaker 3: summer months. Maybe on vacation you get a chance to listen,

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Speaker 3: or maybe you're just getting a break from work, whatever

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Speaker 3: it might be. Appreciate you being with me John Harris

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Speaker 3: Football and on the sideline reporter for your Houston Texans

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Speaker 3: all Right. I mentioned in the break tease Dylan Horton

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Speaker 3: defensive and a big year for Dylan. It's his final

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Speaker 3: year contract year, if you will, his fourth year with

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Speaker 3: the Texans, and it's one in which he's not coming

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Speaker 3: off cancer. He's not having to fight that in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: He's not having to fight off injury. He's coming back

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Speaker 3: after what I thought was a pretty solid yeard. Look,

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Speaker 3: the numbers aren't what the numbers are. Nothing's gonna have

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Speaker 3: a match up to Will and Daniel, but Dylan put

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Speaker 3: up some pretty good numbers in a backup opportunity, a

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Speaker 3: complimentary opportunity. I think he's gonna have an opportunity that Again,

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Speaker 3: here's Dylan Horton with Mark and I. We had our

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Speaker 3: media days over about a month ago now, and we

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Speaker 3: did I think thirty five interviews, so we've been trying

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Speaker 3: to get to everybody before we get to the start

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Speaker 3: of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's Dylan Horton. Cross it off the list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Dylan, another tour of duty. So how's this offseason

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Speaker 1: been for you? OTA's mini camp just getting acclimated to

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six campaign.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I feel like this off season has been great.

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Speaker 4: You know, personally, it's a god sent workout, spend time

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Speaker 4: with my family, especially out here at the facility. You know,

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Speaker 4: I feel like we just had this time to get

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Speaker 4: closer together as a team. You know, have that opportunity

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Speaker 4: to work out together everybody who was up here with

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Speaker 4: some some sweating, you know, some good workouts. Understand on

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Speaker 4: the playbook, a little bit more understand in each position,

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Speaker 4: each each opportunity can get.

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Speaker 3: Before you sat down, I had to think it was like, wait, Dyling, Okay, second, no,

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Speaker 3: you're in your fourth year. Holy cow, it feels like

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Speaker 3: you've been here for a while, and yet it feels

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Speaker 3: like you just got here. What kind of advice would

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Speaker 3: you give to rookie Dealing hort back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three and you're walking in this building. You've been You've

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Speaker 3: been through it, what advice would you give to rookie

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Speaker 3: dealing hort when you walked in that building.

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Speaker 4: Advice stay consistent, you know, keep keep staying consistent whatever

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Speaker 4: with your process. I feel like every process is different.

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Speaker 4: Everybody had the different journey, different path, But the process

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Speaker 4: itself is special because that's how you that's how you

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Speaker 4: accomplish your goals. That's how you kind of progress into

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Speaker 4: the person and the player you want to be.

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Speaker 1: We saw you make the most of your playing time

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Speaker 1: last year and make more plays. What was the key there?

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Speaker 1: What's the key to progressing individually? In the framework of

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Speaker 1: this defense.

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Speaker 4: Man, the environment that I'm in, you know, the D

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Speaker 4: line room, the coaches that we have, the players, the

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Speaker 4: leadership that we have on the team, and the position group.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of honing in on that again, coming back

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Speaker 4: to the process. Understand that everybody's process is different. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: you can't do what everybody else is doing. He's got

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Speaker 4: to figure out what works best for you and lean

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Speaker 4: into it the most you can. And figuring that out

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Speaker 4: is having good teammates and having the leadership to help

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Speaker 4: you figure that out for yourself and then dive into it.

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Speaker 3: Dylan, what's the part of your game that you feel

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Speaker 3: like is progressed the most since you've been here, And

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Speaker 3: what is it that you want to continue to work

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Speaker 3: on to get better. Is there a particular focus for

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Speaker 3: you going into twenty twenty six that you're like, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I want to be able to do this better.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's you'll throw hands, whether it's be better at

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Speaker 3: top of the rush, whether it's be better edge and.

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Speaker 2: The run game, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 3: What's that one thing that you feel like you want

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Speaker 3: to get a little bit better at this year? Right?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like my goal is to improve everything,

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Speaker 4: improve everything consistently. Sure, and obviously I have like specific

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Speaker 4: things I want to work on in Rue game past game,

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Speaker 4: but as a whole as a person as a player,

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Speaker 4: I feel like the more I can just clean into

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Speaker 4: how I work and how I process, the better better

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Speaker 4: we're going to be at the team.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be around Will Anderson Jr. And

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Speaker 1: Danielle Hunter on a regular basis? You know, we see them,

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Speaker 1: we interview them, we talk with them. You're with them

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Speaker 1: a lot in the rooms, on the field, these guys,

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Speaker 1: and they're at different personalities. So what's it like to

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Speaker 1: be around them doing man.

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Speaker 4: I can't even emphasize how much of like great people

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Speaker 4: they are before I even get into, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: what they do on the field. I feel everybody can

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Speaker 4: see what they do on the field, but just kind

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Speaker 4: of how they approach today, how you can see the

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Speaker 4: professionalism kind of any anything they do from Nutrity's recovery workouts.

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Speaker 4: This having them in the room, having them to just

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Speaker 4: learn off of conversate with is special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty cool what you guys have in

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Speaker 3: that room. How do you see the room? Because you

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: guys have both inside and outside all the same room

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Speaker 3: led by Rod Right and Franco camp I feel like

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Speaker 3: that room is a lot of kind of breaking balls,

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Speaker 3: if you will, kind of getting on each other a

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Speaker 3: little bit with love. I feel like that's the way

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Speaker 3: Rod kinda like he does everything with love, but he's

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Speaker 3: ready to jab when he needs to.

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Speaker 2: What's that defensive line room?

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Speaker 4: Like it's a competitive room. I feel everybody everybody in

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Speaker 4: the room knows we can be better, knows and the

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Speaker 4: ones to get better, and specially with coach coach coach Frank,

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Speaker 4: they have the energy. They have the energy every day

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Speaker 4: to come and push us to be the best we

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Speaker 4: can be.

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Speaker 1: Dylan, let me ask you this about the limphoma recovery.

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Speaker 1: Do you talk to people who get died diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: this and now they want to know from you? Hey,

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Speaker 1: what was that like to go through that, everything you

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Speaker 1: went through personally and professionally maybe, but especially personally health wise,

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Speaker 1: to not only get back to Okay, I'm square as

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Speaker 1: a human here, but now I can go play professional football.

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Speaker 1: Do people talk to you about that? Do you advise people?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean anybody who wants to know, wants to

816
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Speaker 4: know my story. If I have any opportunity to spread

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Speaker 4: my story, to spend any kind of positivity or just

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Speaker 4: awareness itself to mphoma, to blood cancer, I will. I

819
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Speaker 4: will gladly, honestly, Like I feel like it's a blessing

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Speaker 4: to be able to be in this position. So it's

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Speaker 4: a blessing to be able to share it.

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Speaker 2: Dylan.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I remember you said to

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Speaker 3: me and we talked about, you know, you go into

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Speaker 3: your rookie year, obviously doing all the rookie training. You

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Speaker 3: go into your second year obviously you were defeating lymphoma.

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Speaker 2: So twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five was the first year in which you had a

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Speaker 3: true off season to get ready for a regular season

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, How did you feel like that

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Speaker 3: manifested itself in twenty twenty five. Did you feel as

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Speaker 3: you went throughout the year that you were able to

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Speaker 3: be stronger because you had the full opportunity to not

834
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Speaker 3: rehab or fight cancer or go through rookie stuff, that

835
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Speaker 3: you were actually building your body getting ready for a season.

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Speaker 3: Did you feel bigger, faster, stronger to kind of get

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Speaker 3: through that season better. How did that kind of in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, How did that kind of pay off

839
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Speaker 3: to have that time to go through and really build

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Speaker 3: up and strengthen your body.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it went a long way, having

842
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 4: a planning throughout the off season, knowing you can use

843
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: these certain amount of weeks to prepare for the season, Right,

844
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 4: it all comes down in preparation. But having that time

845
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: to understand what the season is going to be like

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Speaker 4: and going through the whole season this time, it was great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you're one of the nicest guys that we've ever met, right,

849
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Speaker 1: You're just you have this wonderful positive disposition demeanor about

850
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Speaker 1: you on the field, what happens, Dylan, And when does

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00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: it happen?

852
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: When?

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Speaker 1: When does the end the football player, I'm gonna go

854
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: tear the quarterback up? When does that kick in? Is

855
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: it pregame warm up? Is it when the game starts?

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Speaker 2: You tell us?

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Speaker 4: Man, that's a great question. I feel like going up.

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Speaker 4: My dad always told me the clip a switch. Being

859
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: one person on the field is being a different person

860
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Speaker 4: off the field. That's that's fine, as long as you

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00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: can balance and manage it. Man, When I feel like

862
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: whenever the bass night ball snaps, you know, it's the

863
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: game times here, It's it's time to go play.

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Speaker 2: You go to a different place though, mentally.

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Speaker 3: Don't you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you have to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's game football.

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00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: But you in particular, like Mark said, like when people

870
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: meet you, they're like and then they talk to us like, man,

871
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 3: Dylan Hert's the nicest dude we've ever met. But then

872
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: we watch you on in the field. You're not really

873
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: nice that way. It doesn't seem that way at all,

874
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: But it feels like in this game everybody kind of

875
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: has to go to a different place.

876
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: Mentally to be able to do what it is that

877
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: you do.

878
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: On a every down.

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00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: Basis, right, I mean, it's it's football, it's a game.

880
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: It's it's fun.

881
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: Some some people go to different places immenseally everything, but

882
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's gotta have fun. You's gotta love

883
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: to do it.

884
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: But when you cross the white lines going the other way,

885
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: you realize I gotta leave that behind.

886
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: Okay, but does that naturally happen? Do you have to

887
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: remind yourself? Okay, I'm back on planet Earth? How does

888
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: that work?

889
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

890
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: You know the game is over. You go ahead and relax,

891
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: take a deep breath, yea, do some recovery, you know,

892
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: doing anything. It's a mental's on this.

893
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: That sounds a lot like a certain head coach that

894
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: would do that.

895
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe, yeah, maybe maybe the break between mini

896
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: camp and training camp. How do you spend it these days?

897
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Mini camp training camp? I'm gonna be in Houston, between

898
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: Houston and Dallas, Frisco. Specifically, that's my parents at Yeah,

899
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: so uh kind of back and forth working out, Yeah,

900
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 4: getting ready for training camp.

901
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: Very nice sound, Gelling, thanks a lot for joining.

902
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: Us, Thank you, thank you.

903
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: That is one of the sweetish gentlemen you are going

904
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: to find, very soft spoken when you get them on

905
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: the field.

906
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: He does some really good things.

907
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 3: His length is size have been problematic for tackles when

908
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: he comes in middle of the first quarter, after willing

909
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: d'neil have given you know, probably the first two series

910
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: or so, Dylan comes in, does a nice job, did

911
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: a lot of things, prussuring a quarterback playing the run.

912
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Dylan Horden.

913
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Now one of the guys that he chased is a

914
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: guy we talked about in the first segment. A little

915
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: nugget dropped through Netflix News show airing tomorrow for the

916
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: first time that shows called Quarterback and the quarterback is

917
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield. What did we learn about Baker that I

918
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: don't know? Raised a little bit of an eyebrow, especially

919
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: the fact that happened against the Texans.

920
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next right here. Well, Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: What's tapping everybody?

922
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: What final segment of Texans All Acts coming at you

923
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: from the Texans Radio studio.

924
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Glad to be with you. I am your host, John Harrison,

925
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: Football analyst.

926
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Speaker 3: Sideline reports go round the NFL as we get closer

927
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: and closer to the start of training camp throughout the

928
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: the NFL. Fact, boy, I'm trying to remember who's playing

929
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame game this year. I think

930
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: I think Chargers are in it. Maybe try I think

931
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: he was going to the Hall of Fame. I think Panthers, Oh,

932
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: Panthers and Cardinals, I believe are in it. They got

933
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: to they they might be reporting this week at some point.

934
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: Maybe it's early next week. But man, I remember having

935
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: that early Hall of Fame game training camp.

936
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Speaker 2: Start and that was not boy, that was not fun. Man.

937
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: But last year, the Texans had a Week two matchup

938
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Speaker 3: with Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I

939
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting this news that came out from

940
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Speaker 3: Evan Kloski works for wt SP and Tampa.

941
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: He said, an.

942
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: Opportunity to watch the new series Quarterback coming out on

943
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 3: Netflix tomorrow and Baker Mayfield, cam Ward, Jane Daniels, Joe

944
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: Flacco or the four quarterbacks featured in that. Klosky said,

945
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: Evan watched the whole series. That Baker Mayfield sprained his

946
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: MCL in PCL during the game against the Texans in

947
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 3: Week two, that Monday night came that he brought them

948
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: back from behind. Now that's the second time in a

949
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: Week two that Baker Mayfield's gotten hurt in It ended

950
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: up hurting him and his team as a quarterback. Happened

951
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: in Cleveland at twenty twenty one through an interception to

952
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: Justin Reed. Justin was running it back and I had

953
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: a perfect view for it. I could see Baker just

954
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 3: po He through an interception, went right after Justin Reid

955
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: threw his shoulder into him and that was a huge

956
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: problem the rest of that year. Cleveland decided not to

957
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: keep him. They decided to trade for Deshaun Watson. That

958
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: put Baker on his eye to seat to go to

959
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: the Panthers and the Rams and eventually the Bucks, and

960
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: he felt like, oh, he's got a home. And then

961
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 3: last year season kind of went down the tubes after

962
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: Baker had the knee injuries they suffered against Houston, he

963
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: had a bone bruise that he suffered against the Lions,

964
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: he had an injury against the Patriots. He's playing with

965
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: injuries all year long and the Bucks suffered all season

966
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: long as a result. Now he's back, he's healthy, see

967
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: if they get a contract extension done. But Evan Kloski

968
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: getting a little advanced review quarterback gave us an idea

969
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: of what Baker Mayfield went through twenty twenty five, and

970
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: a lot of that stemmed from injuries that he suffered

971
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Speaker 3: against the Houston Texans. All right, we talked about earlier.

972
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: The quarterback ranks are out on ESPN. Tomorrow is off

973
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: the ball linebackers hoping to see a Z's in the

974
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: top ten. He should be in the top ten. He

975
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: made the top one hundred. I think he was at

976
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: number ninety two. He should make the top ten. So

977
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Speaker 3: we'll see and discuss that tomorrow, amongst other things.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys for listening to Big thanks to Mark

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00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: Colin back at Studios Portrayo six ten.

981
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Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow buddy. As always, go Texans.