Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom much When does the shutdown end?
Speaker 1: New unemployment numbers, the debt crisis grows. De Blasio says
Speaker 1: no protests allowed. Where's the praise for Florida. Pritzker, the
Speaker 1: governor of Illinois, says, no going to church until there's
Speaker 1: a vaccine. Biden's hypocrisy is mind blowing and what's fine
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Speaker 1: can speak to three hours without a phone call. Try
Speaker 1: doing that sometime. If you ask them what can we
Speaker 1: do for you? What can we get you what you need?
Speaker 1: To a person, no matter where they work across this country,
Speaker 1: they say the same thing to me, stay home, Please
Speaker 1: do what you can to keep cases down. So my
Speaker 1: question is how many of us who say we love
Speaker 1: them don't really show that love. My message for all
Speaker 1: of you on this day is show the love. Do
Speaker 1: what you can to keep cases down. Your choice isn't
Speaker 1: just about you. You know now that it affects others,
Speaker 1: including maybe them, And how about our government get them
Speaker 1: the damn ppe they need. Have it made in this country.
Speaker 1: Remember Rosie the Riveter. These are desperate times. Everybody says it.
Speaker 1: How about having desperate times call for desperate measures. Really,
Speaker 1: America can't muster making gowns and masks when we made
Speaker 1: aircraft carriers and be twenty four bombers. Also, here's something
Speaker 1: else that would be really great for them, a new
Speaker 1: bill in the House from New York Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney. Now,
Speaker 1: the bill would forgive student debt for all healthcare workers
Speaker 1: who are literally putting their lives on the line to
Speaker 1: save others. There's precedent for this. We do it for
Speaker 1: the military, and we should, oh my so much to
Speaker 1: work here there. Welcome to the buck, Sex, and show
Speaker 1: everybody appreciate you joining. Well, that's starting to get a
Speaker 1: little sunni or a little warmer here in New York,
Speaker 1: thank god. So that'll be helpful hopefully wherever you are
Speaker 1: across the country. The weather is improving, when your own lockdown,
Speaker 1: when the country is in as difficult as a position
Speaker 1: as it is right now, anything that you can look
Speaker 1: to as improvement, you got to celebrate a little bit right,
Speaker 1: so better whether even the small things you have to
Speaker 1: become appreciative of. But here we have not the Governor Cuomo,
Speaker 1: but in fact bro Cuomo, the CNN anchor who managed
Speaker 1: to turn his own case of COVID nineteen into a
Speaker 1: piece of performance theater, as we saw when he emerged
Speaker 1: from a basement on CNN. And we all know that
Speaker 1: he had already left the basement, gone out, and he
Speaker 1: was infected with COVID nineteen. And here he is lecturing
Speaker 1: the rest of us. If you care about nurses and
Speaker 1: first responders, if you really want to help them, you
Speaker 1: know what you'll do. Stay home, stay home. We're now
Speaker 1: on two months of staying home. We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: what three months of staying home? Four months of staying home.
Speaker 1: At some point I'm just going to say no, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of other people are already there. In
Speaker 1: New York we have a greater risk than other places
Speaker 1: across the country. Not every place, but New York has been,
Speaker 1: as we've discussed many times, particularly hard hit by this.
Speaker 1: But now we reach this stage where we understand what
Speaker 1: the economic consequences are starting to look like. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen the full scope of it, and I've just got
Speaker 1: to say, the hypocrisy from bro Cuomo here is pretty stunning.
Speaker 1: This is someone who just like George Stephanopolis, when he's
Speaker 1: been seen walking around, you know, without his mask on,
Speaker 1: and he's lecturing everybody else about how he needs to
Speaker 1: how they need to be wearing masks. This has become
Speaker 1: a big exercise in virtue signaling for people, you know
Speaker 1: where where your mask be a good patriot even though
Speaker 1: wearing masks outside all the evidence, all the data shows
Speaker 1: that it is not in fact necessary. I mean for
Speaker 1: some of you, if you want to do it, that's
Speaker 1: up to you, but it's not something that people should
Speaker 1: should certainly be legally obligated to do in public. And
Speaker 1: so this is where I've got to say, it's it's
Speaker 1: time for us to start having more frank conversations about
Speaker 1: what we really think is going to happen here. It's
Speaker 1: easy to lecture everybody about how just stay home protect
Speaker 1: our frontline healthcare workers. What does the rest of society do?
Speaker 1: We can leave until when when does lockdown end? What
Speaker 1: are we really going to do if lockdown can continues
Speaker 1: for another six, nine, twelve, eighteen months. We were told
Speaker 1: all along that we would not get to this point.
Speaker 1: We were told that this was about flattening the curve,
Speaker 1: making sure that hospital capacity was not overwhelmed. Now we're
Speaker 1: being told that it's we have to live in this
Speaker 1: really perpetual state of lockdown until the vaccine comes along,
Speaker 1: and who knows when that will be, but we'll be
Speaker 1: in this perpetual state of lockdown until the Libs decide
Speaker 1: that it's okay. And increasingly, I've got to say it
Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be right around mid to
Speaker 1: late November twenty twenty when really we can start talking
Speaker 1: about the lockdown's ending. I wish it weren't the case
Speaker 1: that it were this blatantly political, but I think we've
Speaker 1: gotten there already because you can't make the case there
Speaker 1: is no case that we would be wise to continue
Speaker 1: doing what we do given what we know about the virus.
Speaker 1: I mean, here is now, there is Bro Cuomo. Do
Speaker 1: we even lift Bro the CNN anchor who has managed
Speaker 1: to become more prominent over there than ever based on
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things, including threatening to throw a
Speaker 1: substantially smaller weaker man down a flight of stairs in
Speaker 1: a crowded public restaurant in the very fancy vacation resort
Speaker 1: of Shelter Island, knowing that he was on video and
Speaker 1: really showing everybody what a tough guy he was. Some
Speaker 1: conservatives thought that that was a good reaction. No, you
Speaker 1: can mouth off to somebody when they mouth off to
Speaker 1: you in public, But to square off against them when
Speaker 1: you have your wife and kids nearby and they're clearly
Speaker 1: not a physical threat to you, and to threaten to
Speaker 1: throw them down a flight of stairs when you're a
Speaker 1: public figure, when they've made no physical threat against you, No,
Speaker 1: I think that was crazy, and I'm surprised that that
Speaker 1: people look at to each his own, but I'm surprised
Speaker 1: that people thought that that was a normal response. If
Speaker 1: someone threatens you, yeah, then you then you can threaten
Speaker 1: them back. But if someone just calls you a name
Speaker 1: you don't like, I could call names I don't like.
Speaker 1: All the time people say stupid, mean things to me.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I'm gonna fight you. So that's what that's
Speaker 1: what idiots do. I'm gonna fight you spend well, especially
Speaker 1: online on Twitter, right, I'm never going to see these people, know,
Speaker 1: what are we really gonna do? Although I do think
Speaker 1: the Bucks exit Alex Jones charity boxing match would probably
Speaker 1: be that would probably be quite entertaining for folks. So anyway,
Speaker 1: the the problem that we're running into is that they're
Speaker 1: moving the goalpost, pretending to like they're not, and there
Speaker 1: there is no exit plan from the lockdown for the libs.
Speaker 1: They've set all these different uh, these these different trip wires,
Speaker 1: if you will. They've put in place all of these
Speaker 1: benchmarks that we have to hit that they know we're
Speaker 1: not going to hit. So then it just turns into
Speaker 1: their discretion because what's gonna happen is they're going to
Speaker 1: start to have to waive certain benchmarks and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ease this, We're gonna ease that. You know,
Speaker 1: California is moving to open retail stores next week. You know,
Speaker 1: there's all this good news, and then there are still
Speaker 1: people that are, oh, no, coronavirus. We can't leave, we
Speaker 1: can't go outside. But if you look at what's happening
Speaker 1: around the world, there's good news from the perspective of
Speaker 1: opening back up societies. Germany's opening up. Italy is in
Speaker 1: the stages of reopening Spain places that have been hit
Speaker 1: terribly by the disease. Are saying, look, we we got
Speaker 1: to start living life again. So why is it that
Speaker 1: America is the country that we're all a second wave
Speaker 1: and we can't go outside. Here's Governor Cuomo in New
Speaker 1: York and unfortunately, New York really is the template. Was
Speaker 1: used as the template for how the rest of the
Speaker 1: country needs to respond to this virus, which was wrong.
Speaker 1: But New York became the test case that everybody else
Speaker 1: had to rely on for their own reactions, and the
Speaker 1: data coming out of New York, we extrapolated from that
Speaker 1: what we should do for the rest the rest of
Speaker 1: the country. And it was a mistake. It was a mistake.
Speaker 1: Here's the governor of New York State telling us all
Speaker 1: reacting to this stunning bit of news. You remember, we're
Speaker 1: told a lockdown is saving a lot of lives because
Speaker 1: lockdowns are preventing the spread of disease. Meanwhile, if you
Speaker 1: look at charts of different countries, every country has this.
Speaker 1: You know, you see a big spike in cases and
Speaker 1: then the drop off in cases. Now some you know,
Speaker 1: the numbers are different because the population sizes are different.
Speaker 1: But whether they've gone with extreme lockdown or minimal lockdown
Speaker 1: like in the case of Sweden, the curve seems to
Speaker 1: be pretty much the same. So where is the where's
Speaker 1: the real benefit that we see from these lockdowns? It's
Speaker 1: always been assumed that if we do what they say
Speaker 1: with this, there'll be far few will is it far
Speaker 1: fewer cases in the long run or far fewer case
Speaker 1: there's week to week and extending it out because this
Speaker 1: is the concept that the people that are the lockdown forever.
Speaker 1: This is what they don't understand. If you have a
Speaker 1: six month long run of this virus, and let's say
Speaker 1: you do the bare minimum of mitigation and you end
Speaker 1: up with one hundred thousand dead, which is it looks
Speaker 1: like right now we're heading for one hundred thousand dead
Speaker 1: between now in August. Whatever the models and the models
Speaker 1: keep changing. Who knows, the models are wrong all the time.
Speaker 1: But if you're one hundred thousand dead, if we did
Speaker 1: extreme mitigation for let's say eighteen months, So if we
Speaker 1: kept the lockdown going for eighteen months and you still
Speaker 1: end up with one hundred thousand dead, have you really
Speaker 1: limited the infections or are you just slowing the speed
Speaker 1: with which people are becoming infected? Now? It's tough to
Speaker 1: answer that. They would say, well, no, you're at one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and not two hundred thousand dead over the
Speaker 1: same period of time. But is effectively everybody going to
Speaker 1: get Is everyone going to get infected with this over time,
Speaker 1: because then the mortality rate is very likely to be
Speaker 1: whatever whatever it is for the disease is what it's
Speaker 1: going to be over the overall population. Are we heading
Speaker 1: for actual slow speed herd immunity or do we think
Speaker 1: that somehow we're going to just stop the disease because
Speaker 1: the initial program it was fifteen days to slow the spread,
Speaker 1: not to stop the spread. Now we've got people suggesting
Speaker 1: that we can stop the spread if only we stay home.
Speaker 1: This is where Governor Cuomo has got a problem though,
Speaker 1: because people are staying home and they're still getting infected.
Speaker 1: Play clip three. This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly the people
Speaker 1: were at home where there's been a lot of speculation
Speaker 1: about this. A lot of people again had opinions, a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been arguing where they come from
Speaker 1: and where where we should be focusing. But if you notice,
Speaker 1: eighteen percent of the people came from nursing homes. Less
Speaker 1: than one percent came from jail or prison, two percent
Speaker 1: came from the homeless population, two percent from other congregate facilities,
Speaker 1: but sixty six percent of the people were at home,
Speaker 1: which is shocking to us disproportionately older, but by the way,
Speaker 1: older starts at fifty one years old. Two thirds of
Speaker 1: people that are hospitalized with COVID, and the most recent,
Speaker 1: the most recent weekly data they have two thirds of
Speaker 1: them were on lockdown or staying home and they're still
Speaker 1: getting infected. So either you look at this and you
Speaker 1: say there are only a few possibilities here. You have
Speaker 1: people who are in the very limited travel they do,
Speaker 1: going to the grocery store, going to the pharmacy, still
Speaker 1: even doing that once or twice a week, getting acted
Speaker 1: in numbers that are large enough to be concerning. We're
Speaker 1: still seeing a steady stream of infections here in New York,
Speaker 1: and then across the country you have more and more
Speaker 1: people who are still getting infected. But we're home. The
Speaker 1: cell phone data has showed that over ninety percent of
Speaker 1: people have been adhering to the lockdown based on the
Speaker 1: GPS monitoring that money it's monitoring. Talking about the master
Speaker 1: valence state, we're already had a master valence state. It's
Speaker 1: just until somebody figures out how to really harness it
Speaker 1: and really use it. Well, they're called social media companies, buck,
Speaker 1: But this is where we are. We still, even with lockdown,
Speaker 1: have three hundred thousand This is from doctor Scott got Leave,
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand new cases a day. So all these
Speaker 1: people are saying we're saving all these lives through the lockdown.
Speaker 1: I mean we're going three hundred thousand cases a day.
Speaker 1: How many cases day will we get if we went
Speaker 1: to work but still try to limit mask gatherings and
Speaker 1: took some of these, Oh, it will be a million
Speaker 1: a day. It will be ten million a day. And
Speaker 1: even with the lockdown. I mean, this is the people
Speaker 1: part of the false choice that's set up here. And
Speaker 1: I know this is all kind of it gets so
Speaker 1: conceptual and what's going on, But our society is at risk.
Speaker 1: I mean, our economy is dying. It is dying right now.
Speaker 1: I have the unemployment numbers and we'll talk about that
Speaker 1: at a moment. But the people who don't want to
Speaker 1: reopen keep saying that people will die if we reopen,
Speaker 1: and you said this, well, people are dying right now,
Speaker 1: even with the lockdown, and we're having this enormous societal
Speaker 1: not just economic, I mean, our whole society is bearing
Speaker 1: this tremendous cost. And people won't soon forget the images
Speaker 1: of parents arrested in front of their children for going
Speaker 1: to play in a playground and law enforcement officers going
Speaker 1: along with it. My friend, I know that you do
Speaker 1: not judge the whole community of hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: law enforcement officers across the country of the actions of
Speaker 1: any one, two, or a few dozen. But perception is
Speaker 1: a different thing from reality here, and we've had a
Speaker 1: few very bad looks of over zealous, over aggressive law
Speaker 1: enforcement with regard to the social distancing and the lockdown stuff.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a cost to that as well.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that's going on here that is damaging
Speaker 1: to our society, damaging to our ability to feel good
Speaker 1: about who's in charge of this country at the state, local,
Speaker 1: and at the national level. And can we trust the bureaucracy?
Speaker 1: The answers, no, you cannot trust the bureaucracy, And they've
Speaker 1: lied to us and they've been wrong, and now they're
Speaker 1: getting more as their theories fall apart, and as the
Speaker 1: data is increasingly not supportive of their positions, they're lying
Speaker 1: to us, and then they're getting more aggressive, right so
Speaker 1: we see that they've been wrong, and then they say,
Speaker 1: oh no, we weren't wrong, and the models don't really
Speaker 1: matter anymore. They keep shifting and changing. Meanwhile, people are
Speaker 1: getting infected across the country. The economy is in free fall,
Speaker 1: and they act like we've gotten we've done some huge
Speaker 1: public service by locking down most of the United States.
Speaker 1: Europe is opening up. Are they a bunch of murderers?
Speaker 1: Are they a bunch of barbarians who don't care about
Speaker 1: grandma dying? They're opening up? Sweden never really closed, but
Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to start having people,
Speaker 1: you know, open up their flower stores and times and
Speaker 1: time for Mother's Day, you know, clothing stores open up,
Speaker 1: furniture stores, allow people to start going into offices providing
Speaker 1: different services, you know. And I'm not saying don't wear
Speaker 1: masks inside. I'm not saying don't wash your hands, and
Speaker 1: we shouldn't protect the vulnerable. But what option are these
Speaker 1: people that think that it's it's so brave and bold
Speaker 1: to go on TV and say stay home, how long?
Speaker 1: How much longer? What are we trying to achieve. Give
Speaker 1: me the benchmarks about test and trace are absurd, they're insane.
Speaker 1: But it's all ultimately about another thing. And you know
Speaker 1: what it is. Who's going to get blamed. There's going
Speaker 1: to be death from COVID nineteen for the rest of
Speaker 1: this year. It's one percent guaranteed. So now the discussion
Speaker 1: about reopening is really about who's going to get blamed
Speaker 1: for those deaths, not about how we stop them. You're
Speaker 1: in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Call these people warriors, and I'm actually calling now, as
Speaker 1: you know, John, the nation warriors. You have to be warriors.
Speaker 1: We can't keep our country close down for years and
Speaker 1: we have to do something. And hopefully that won't be
Speaker 1: the case, but it could very well be the case,
Speaker 1: and you won't be lucked in a house. And some
Speaker 1: people should stay if you're over a certain age. I mean,
Speaker 1: you see that right elderly people or especially elderly people
Speaker 1: with the problem where they have a problem. It attacks
Speaker 1: these people viciously, and I think they will be staying back,
Speaker 1: and we're strongly recommending that they do that. We're saying
Speaker 1: over sixty, and especially over sixty if you have diabetes
Speaker 1: or heart problems or whatever problem you might so, but
Speaker 1: we have to get our country open again. And you
Speaker 1: see it. Look, you cover it. People want to go back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a problem if you don't do it.
Speaker 1: If you don't do it, you've got a very help.
Speaker 1: We've got to go back. Trump is right. I hope
Speaker 1: that he's learned from listening to people who do not
Speaker 1: have not just the best interests of you know, the
Speaker 1: White House, but the American people do not have the
Speaker 1: best interest of the American people at heart. The left
Speaker 1: views this all as an opportunity. Unfortunately, thanks for listening
Speaker 1: to The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on
Speaker 1: Apple podcast if the iHeart Radio app or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts evicted at this time through no fault
Speaker 1: of their own. You know, my grandfather used to say,
Speaker 1: if you have your health, we can figure out anything else.
Speaker 1: We can fix anything else. If it's about money, we
Speaker 1: can we'll figure it out. But you have to have
Speaker 1: your health. That's why public health versus the economy, I
Speaker 1: don't see the trade off. Is it as easy as
Speaker 1: we can just ensure that everybody has their health. There
Speaker 1: are some very important. It's it's very important for us
Speaker 1: to understand. It's very important. False notions at the heart
Speaker 1: of the lockdown consensus. They can't say people from getting
Speaker 1: this disease. They've said that, oh, we got to do
Speaker 1: this because he'd say, oh, well, they're they're mitigating it.
Speaker 1: It's meaning so few so far fewer people are getting this.
Speaker 1: Really are fewer people getting it in places like New
Speaker 1: York because a quarter of us have already been exposed
Speaker 1: and have antibodies, and a lot of the most vulnerable people. Remember,
Speaker 1: your vulnerability to the disease isn't just a question of
Speaker 1: how badly your body reacts to it and how much
Speaker 1: it overwhelms your immune system. It's also the initial infection.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people who are particularly susceptible, clearly
Speaker 1: in New York and some other major urban areas, have
Speaker 1: already gotten the disease. So at some point, I mean,
Speaker 1: we talk about her immunity and nobody ever really thinks
Speaker 1: this through true. Herd immunity means there are so many
Speaker 1: people with antibodies to the disease that there are not
Speaker 1: enough vectors of spread that even those without antibodies are
Speaker 1: at real risk of getting it, and for certain diseases,
Speaker 1: for something like like measles, for example, which is hyper contagious.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really understand the mechanism of why,
Speaker 1: but measles. It's like, if you're this is why they've
Speaker 1: even had these These people have done these parties for kids,
Speaker 1: which I do not recommend. I don't have kids. I
Speaker 1: don anything about this stuff. But they'll have a party
Speaker 1: where one kid with measle shows up and all these
Speaker 1: other kids and they all get measles, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what this is what ends. And it's like,
Speaker 1: if you show up, you're you're pretty much getting measles.
Speaker 1: The spread of the disease is much more difficult if
Speaker 1: there are people who have immunity all around you. Even
Speaker 1: if you don't have immunity, that's the basics of herd immunity.
Speaker 1: And for some diseases it's it's more like eighty percent
Speaker 1: four measles, I think it's over ninety ninety five percent
Speaker 1: if you're going to have true heart. That's why the
Speaker 1: lowering of And I'm not getting into vaccination debates, and
Speaker 1: don't start sending me all that stuff. People I love you,
Speaker 1: don't start sending me all your vac stuff. But that's
Speaker 1: why when their vaccination level from measles drops down, there's
Speaker 1: all that people get all concerned. Just from a herd
Speaker 1: immunity standpoint. They're saying, you're you're creating greaters. And this
Speaker 1: is why whooping cough and measles in recent years, they've
Speaker 1: been outbreaks in places. Okay, and now we look at
Speaker 1: what the lockdown consensus is promising us, which is that
Speaker 1: they're able to protect our health. But are they really
Speaker 1: we're doing exactly what they're telling us to do. We've
Speaker 1: been doing it for two months. How protected are we?
Speaker 1: How much has it really worked in New York? Or
Speaker 1: had the virus already spread far and wide and the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable And we can't protect nursing homes. We've been
Speaker 1: talking about that. The authorities made, not just bet made
Speaker 1: the absolute wrong decisions about how to protect our seniors
Speaker 1: and nursing homes. So they keep taking this position of
Speaker 1: the moral high ground like they're you know, if it
Speaker 1: saves just one life, they'll protect every life. And then
Speaker 1: we think about it, well, but you're not protecting every life,
Speaker 1: not even close. We're losing a lot of lives and
Speaker 1: suffering massive economic consequences and losing our constitutional rights, and honestly,
Speaker 1: at some point, what is the purpose? Why are people
Speaker 1: are going to start to say, why am I getting
Speaker 1: up and doing this every day? And this is what
Speaker 1: we're going to see? A spike and drug abuse and
Speaker 1: suicide and overdose and all these things. We're still locked
Speaker 1: at our homeless what forever? And I hate this stuff
Speaker 1: when people say we're never return We're never returning to normal.
Speaker 1: You know what, shut up if you're saying that we're
Speaker 1: going to return to normal. All right, we had fifty
Speaker 1: million people die from Spanish influence in nineteen eighteen. You know,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen was followed by the Roaring twenties. We're going
Speaker 1: to return to normal. I hope the cost is nowhere
Speaker 1: near and I don't believe it will what it was
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen. But you know, if we can survive that,
Speaker 1: we are going to get through this and return to
Speaker 1: a place where people can gather and people can do things,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe, just maybe there there'll be a
Speaker 1: few benefits of this. You know, the silver linings of
Speaker 1: it will be pretty substantial, like, for example, the lunacy
Speaker 1: within the scientific community that they need to focus billions
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars and have all these conferences about
Speaker 1: climate change because by the IPCC projection, the inter Governmental
Speaker 1: Panel on Climate Change at the UN, by their projection,
Speaker 1: we might be two degrees celsius warmer in one hundred years,
Speaker 1: and that will destroy the planet. Let's worry about not
Speaker 1: having a pandemic disease destroy modern civilization like now and
Speaker 1: for the next ten years. How about that that would
Speaker 1: be a better usage of time. You know that, you
Speaker 1: who've been listening to the show, I've made this point
Speaker 1: many times before. There are real this is people know
Speaker 1: I've been bringing up antibiotic resistant bacteria and really frightening
Speaker 1: stuff that's out there. I have mentioned pandemics way before
Speaker 1: this actually happened as what I'm scared about or what
Speaker 1: keeps me up at night, anybody with a passing familiar
Speaker 1: And you know, how do I know that stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: not a scientist history. I know more history than a
Speaker 1: vast majority of scientists that I can tell you because
Speaker 1: I love history and read it all the time. And
Speaker 1: if you understand history, you know what the real risks are,
Speaker 1: and you know what the real risks are not and
Speaker 1: the people that are claiming we're all going to run
Speaker 1: out of food or that the world is going to
Speaker 1: melt because of co Two. They've been wrong in the past,
Speaker 1: there will be wrong in the future, and there are
Speaker 1: reasons why they continue to allow their brains to make
Speaker 1: these same errors and try to push all the rest
Speaker 1: of us us into believing them as well. But back
Speaker 1: to the governor here health, we should protect human life.
Speaker 1: I don't care if a person is old. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm old by your definition. I still think I have
Speaker 1: a value. Right My mother's old, you know, she's the
Speaker 1: most precious person to me. So protect every life and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to trade off public health, and We'll
Speaker 1: figure out the dollars and we'll figure out the economic impact.
Speaker 1: You know what Venezuela looks like. You see the news
Speaker 1: footage of it. I'm sure sometimes Venezuela is a is
Speaker 1: an impoverished socialist narco state and is run by narco traffickers.
Speaker 1: This is what you know. We have all these people
Speaker 1: who don't even understand how poor the country is. Because
Speaker 1: the reason that Maduro and his thugs are even able
Speaker 1: to feed themselves and pay the army and stay in
Speaker 1: charge is because they're selling cocaine and heroin on the
Speaker 1: global market. Yeah, that's right. You know you don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of that, and I do want to spend
Speaker 1: some time. I want to deep dive into it. So
Speaker 1: and Producer Mark remind me on this one, and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get one of our many spec ops friends to join.
Speaker 1: You know, it actually be great if we can have.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll reach out to Jack Carr, whose book is
Speaker 1: doing so well right now, Savage Son, which I'm listen.
Speaker 1: I am listening to the audiobook of it, and it's
Speaker 1: what I do when I'm doing chores and things like that.
Speaker 1: When I say chores, that doesn't sound manly, right, is there,
Speaker 1: Proucer Mark? Is there a more manly word for chores
Speaker 1: household tasks? There we go doing my household tasks, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean it does sound a bit like I'm a butler.
Speaker 1: Oh hello, I'm doing my household tasks. But it's better
Speaker 1: than chores. Choice sounds like, oh, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: do my chores now. But yeah, I listened to Savage Son.
Speaker 1: It's it's excellent so far. I'm a few chapters in. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have him or we have so many people
Speaker 1: from the spec OPS side who could talk to us
Speaker 1: just about I mean, how how crazy it is that
Speaker 1: this guy is. I've just seen the beginnings of it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to dig into more. I'm gonna talk to
Speaker 1: some friends in the community too, to see what's going
Speaker 1: on here by this guy who is SF who wanted
Speaker 1: to have a coup, basically be a one man coup
Speaker 1: against Maduro. I mean, I joke around with friends of
Speaker 1: mine all the time that, you know, when I had
Speaker 1: enough agency and spec Ops guys all drinking together, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you've got enough enough brain power and firepower here to
Speaker 1: overthrow a small country. But we're kidding. It seems like
Speaker 1: maybe this guy didn't think that that people were kidding
Speaker 1: when they talk like that. So we'll we'll get into
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. I think that's a fascinating situation. But but
Speaker 1: I bring up Venezuela because the way that Cuomo talks
Speaker 1: about things, if you have your health, you have everything, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to stay healthy when you
Speaker 1: don't have an economy. It's really hard to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Think of all of the people out there right now
Speaker 1: who don't have COVID nineteen but have serious health problems.
Speaker 1: And what happens when they can't get routine medical care.
Speaker 1: What happens when they have to wait for chemo, for surgeries,
Speaker 1: for all kinds of heart procedures, which is happening all
Speaker 1: over the country. What happens to your health when you
Speaker 1: are told to stay indoors, not see your loved ones,
Speaker 1: not enjoy life. Okay, watching Netflix and eating ice cream
Speaker 1: is fun for a week or two, it has now
Speaker 1: become sad. We don't want to do this anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: we want to do it sometimes, but we don't want
Speaker 1: to do it all the time, all right, which is
Speaker 1: basically where we are right now. You cannot have a
Speaker 1: healthy society if you do not have a functioning society.
Speaker 1: Ask any prisoner. Take a look at anybody who's ever
Speaker 1: been sent to federal prison. And I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: stark reminder of really how brutal prison life really is
Speaker 1: psychologically and physically. And I don't just mean because of
Speaker 1: the possibility, the high probability of being assaulted and physically
Speaker 1: abused inside a prison, which says a lot about our
Speaker 1: state and instability to protect people that are in its custody.
Speaker 1: Conversation for another time, but if you find any if
Speaker 1: you look at anybody who's gone into federal prison, they
Speaker 1: look I mean, they usually lose a ton of weight,
Speaker 1: their cheeks become sunken in, their eyes become lighter. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just they look worn and defeated. We're doing this
Speaker 1: to ourselves increasingly as a society. We're making people worn
Speaker 1: out and defeated. Can't see your family, can't see your friends,
Speaker 1: can't do your job, can't really go out. And let's
Speaker 1: be honest about this. Going out with a mask outside
Speaker 1: is better than nothing, but it's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 1: I want to breathe fresh air. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be sucking in some cotton mask made in China, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. That's not what I that's not what
Speaker 1: I want. Oh, but it's fine, and you have to
Speaker 1: do it to protect other people. You know. Cuomo is
Speaker 1: representative of this mentality that we have control over this.
Speaker 1: And this is where you get to a fundamental philosophical
Speaker 1: distinction between the lockdown consensus and the Reopen the reopened movement.
Speaker 1: The lockdown consensus suggests that if only we listen to them,
Speaker 1: lives will be saved, and that's all that matters. The reopen.
Speaker 1: The Reopened movement is saying lives are being lost. You
Speaker 1: can't stop the spread of this disease, not even close.
Speaker 1: And you're destroying everything around our society by doing this lockdown,
Speaker 1: and you've changed what the initial mission is and you
Speaker 1: won't give us an end date. When is enough enough?
Speaker 1: And now we're hearing, oh by about the second the
Speaker 1: second wave. Here's a little fact that if there's going
Speaker 1: to be a second wave, because we start living life
Speaker 1: normally again, there will be a second wave in June,
Speaker 1: or in September or in January. It doesn't matter. It's
Speaker 1: coming if what we're doing isn't enough, meaning if the
Speaker 1: mitigation and if we're not able to get therapeutics and
Speaker 1: get research going that would prevent a second wave. If
Speaker 1: what we're doing isn't enough, it doesn't matter if we
Speaker 1: open next week or next month. The second wave is coming,
Speaker 1: my friend. Now, I don't think it is. I don't
Speaker 1: think it is. Remember this too, what happened to the
Speaker 1: Spanish flu. We didn't beat it, we didn't even understand.
Speaker 1: This will give you a sense of how well this
Speaker 1: is a whole other conversation. But we think that our
Speaker 1: medical Our medical world is so advanced and so sophisticated,
Speaker 1: and really, I mean you go back one hundred years,
Speaker 1: and our knowledge of medicine was primitive, and I mean
Speaker 1: around the whole world, I mean, the smartest doctors, our
Speaker 1: knowledge in nineteen twenty, nineteen eighteen primitive, we were. We
Speaker 1: were at the basics the early phase of medical knowledge.
Speaker 1: And yet the Spanish flu faded away. Now, how did
Speaker 1: that happen? A lot of people got infected, a lot
Speaker 1: of people had immunity, and then the human race just
Speaker 1: moved on. We will get past this, It is a guarantee.
Speaker 1: In the mean time. What we're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: is what kind of countries and societies and lives will
Speaker 1: we be able to lead now and after this thing passes.
Speaker 1: And as I've been telling you, lock yourself up and
Speaker 1: hide from all of this, for everybody, for some people
Speaker 1: that have particularly high vulnerability, but also remember that the
Speaker 1: people that have particularly high vulnerability, If we could focus
Speaker 1: energy and protection measures on those who do feel they're
Speaker 1: at higher risk, wouldn't we then be in a better
Speaker 1: position to make sure that they're living fuller, better, longer, healthier,
Speaker 1: happier lives. Right, if we did have procedures in place
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, if you're going to
Speaker 1: go to a nursing home to visit your loved ones,
Speaker 1: gosh darn it, you know that we're going to check
Speaker 1: and make sure you're totally clear of the virus, and
Speaker 1: that we have the best measures in place, and that
Speaker 1: you can if you are going to go and see
Speaker 1: your loved relatives there, you can do so without endangering them.
Speaker 1: That kind of focus and those kinds of procedures would
Speaker 1: make things better for everybody. But instead, what we have
Speaker 1: is this slap dash approach of well, you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to protect everybody, but we're going to send New York,
Speaker 1: New York State, it's going to send people with COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen back into the nursing facility and tell us all
Speaker 1: that they care so much about protecting lives. Cost doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: Cost doesn't matter. Huh. Interesting for the State of New
Speaker 1: York to say that, especially given that they were unwilling
Speaker 1: to make additional to take additional precautions and procedures in
Speaker 1: order to protect those who are most vulnerable from this.
Speaker 1: The moral blackmail we all face on this question is
Speaker 1: going to be massive. People don't want to admit that
Speaker 1: they were wrong. They want to have that They have
Speaker 1: this need to believe that the scientific consensus is accurate
Speaker 1: and will protect them. And they also do want to
Speaker 1: use this as the ultimate issue. This from a purely
Speaker 1: political perspective, put aside all the human death and carnage
Speaker 1: and the terrible stuff that's going on here. Just from
Speaker 1: a purely political perspective, this is the biggest opportunity the
Speaker 1: Democrats could have possibly been given by circumstance, an economy
Speaker 1: that is crashing and all this blame that they're trying
Speaker 1: to put on Trump so they can put forward a
Speaker 1: pathetic Cannian. Joe Biden's a pathetic candidate for the presidency.
Speaker 1: We all know that. But they might get it. They
Speaker 1: might get it done because of circumstance, and they're not
Speaker 1: letting that go. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Look his astory. There's nothing
Speaker 1: I can do to satisfy the media, the Democrats for
Speaker 1: the fakes. And I understand that we did the greatest
Speaker 1: mobilization and history with the ventilators, and I don't think
Speaker 1: there was a story. What a great job we did.
Speaker 1: Now we're helping Germany, and we're helping many other countries France,
Speaker 1: Spain and in Italy by the way, and Nigeria sending
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty to Nigeria ventilators and too much
Speaker 1: ago we didn't have any ventilators for ourselves. We were
Speaker 1: the coverage were bare right, there were people have no idea.
Speaker 1: There's not a thing I can do to satisfy the
Speaker 1: fake news, and there's not a thing I can do
Speaker 1: to satisfy democrats. It's true. Just look at the ventilator story.
Speaker 1: And we were we were in a national mass panic
Speaker 1: over our ventilator deficit. And now we're like the ventilator
Speaker 1: superpower of the planet. In fact, we are the ventilator
Speaker 1: superpower of a planet. You don't see a lot of
Speaker 1: stories about that. To you, not much less interest. Trump
Speaker 1: wasn't using the Defense Production Act. I saw so many
Speaker 1: journals making that case. And then he did use the
Speaker 1: Defense Production Act and we got plenty of and he
Speaker 1: already had been negotiating with companies, and we got plenty
Speaker 1: of ventilators. Now more than we need. We're giving him
Speaker 1: other people. Oh but Trump didn't He doesn't act fast enough.
Speaker 1: They say these people are full of it. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe
Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Are we going to see a fourth
Speaker 1: simulist or do you think you're going to wait and
Speaker 1: see how the first three are working? To people ask me,
Speaker 1: I remind them that we have no money. We have
Speaker 1: no rainy day account, we have no savings account. The
Speaker 1: three trillion that we've already passed out is imaginary money.
Speaker 1: It's being borrowed, basically from China. So the irony is
Speaker 1: we got the virus from China, and now we're going
Speaker 1: to be more dependent by borrowing more money from China.
Speaker 1: The only thing that recovers our economy is opening the economy.
Speaker 1: It's not a lack of money, it's a lack of commerce.
Speaker 1: If you let people have commerce, if you let them trade,
Speaker 1: if you take them out from forcible home arrest, our
Speaker 1: economy will recover. But if you keep everybody out of
Speaker 1: your home arrest and say you cannot practice your business,
Speaker 1: you cannot sell your goods, they will continue to be
Speaker 1: economic calamity. And all these blue state governors who don't
Speaker 1: want to open their state delly are clamoring for federal
Speaker 1: money to bear him out because no state revenues coming in,
Speaker 1: don't have any money. What could be more straightforward than
Speaker 1: what Rand Paul is saying? And yet it feels like
Speaker 1: Rand Paul here is a breath of fresh air. You
Speaker 1: know this. I've always thought that Senator Paul was a
Speaker 1: guy who does does believe what he says. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is a believer in the ideology of limited government
Speaker 1: and and liberty. I'm wouldn't even call I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: call libertarianism because Rand Paul is not really a classic
Speaker 1: libertarian in some ways, but an ideology focused on liberty
Speaker 1: and limited government. I think Rand Paul's a believer. I've
Speaker 1: always had a, you know, not a personal soft spot
Speaker 1: for the guy, but I feel like he's been because
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know him. I've only interviewed him
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and in interviews, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: he's kind of like, well, you know, it's sound like
Speaker 1: I'm a little bored, and you know, he's not really that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really love talking to the media. I get
Speaker 1: the I think he likes TV. Don't think he really
Speaker 1: loves doing radio. But he's he seems to me like
Speaker 1: a principled politician. Now that doesn't that's not the same
Speaker 1: thing as saying someone's perfectly principle. That just means that
Speaker 1: for a politician. I think that rand Paul does stick
Speaker 1: to stick to what he believes for the most part,
Speaker 1: and that's impressive to me, or at least it's noteworthy
Speaker 1: to me. But look, he's saying, we can't. There is
Speaker 1: no restoring the economy without getting back some of the
Speaker 1: reserves areaIn the economy without pulling back on these lockdowns.
Speaker 1: There's no way we can do it. There's nothing that
Speaker 1: we can do that will pull back the law that
Speaker 1: will restore the economy unless we pull back the lockdowns.
Speaker 1: And that then gets me to you know, I had
Speaker 1: a very interesting exchange on Twitter, so it's public, so
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, you know, but betraying any kind
Speaker 1: of confidence or anything. I mean, I never would, but
Speaker 1: I had an instrink back and forth with somebody who
Speaker 1: is a He is a guy who founded a very
Speaker 1: large I believe it was a genetic research company. But
Speaker 1: his name is Balaji Srinivazen. And I know about this guy,
Speaker 1: or I think it's actually pronounced Balaji. We have a
Speaker 1: mutual friend told me this guy is really smart, and
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a He doesn't believe
Speaker 1: that we should have the country lockdown forever, and he
Speaker 1: understands the pain that people are feeling right now. But
Speaker 1: he's a pretty pro lockdown guy. And so we have
Speaker 1: this exchange. I wanted to share with you about the
Speaker 1: different you know when you deal with someone on this
Speaker 1: issue who it seems is actually smart from the other side.
Speaker 1: Here's kind of how this goes. You had Bethany Mandel,
Speaker 1: who some of you know is a conservative conservative author
Speaker 1: and writer, and she wrote the following, and this is
Speaker 1: an exchange that all happened. I thought this is worth sharing.
Speaker 1: In this, she wrote, you can call me a grandma killer.
Speaker 1: I'm not sacrificing my home, food on the table, all
Speaker 1: of her docs and dentists, every form of pleasure, museums, zoos, restaurants,
Speaker 1: all my kids teachers in order to make other people comfortable.
Speaker 1: If you want to stay locked down, do I'm not.
Speaker 1: And then sure, it doesn't mean it won't be done responsibly,
Speaker 1: but I am just I am done. I feel lied
Speaker 1: to about the terms of this lockdown, and I regret
Speaker 1: ever trusting that it would be done responsibly. I think
Speaker 1: she's right. I mean, I think that's a that's an
Speaker 1: appropriate response to the lockdown response. I think that this
Speaker 1: is well within where we should be given what we've
Speaker 1: been put through as a country at this point. And
Speaker 1: what they've said is now, this gentleman, mister Balaji Balaji
Speaker 1: came forward and you know, look, this is where it's
Speaker 1: so rare to find some on the other side. So
Speaker 1: someone who's pro lockdown, who's who's smart and not a
Speaker 1: shrill screaming you want to you want to kill Grandma maniac.
Speaker 1: So this is why I wanted to share this with you,
Speaker 1: because I keep giving you, I keep having people on
Speaker 1: the show who are generally speaking with me and being
Speaker 1: skeptical that the response was necessary of the national lockdown
Speaker 1: at least, and that you know, there's no politics involved
Speaker 1: in this with the anti Trump side, But here's how
Speaker 1: the other side approaches it. Those who are trying to
Speaker 1: at least engage, well do you agree with this or not?
Speaker 1: At least they're trying to engage. I wish people ask
Speaker 1: me often, why don't you have liberals on the show
Speaker 1: disagree with you because it just escalates. And if you
Speaker 1: have on radio people who all of a sudden are
Speaker 1: shouting or trying to talk over each other, it's just bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad. And also you know, it's you have limited
Speaker 1: time and to have a debate format and radio, especially
Speaker 1: if you're going to have the host, I mean, I
Speaker 1: determine what the time is, right, I determine how much
Speaker 1: people get to speak on this show. Like radio, the
Speaker 1: host of a radio show is the king of the kingdom,
Speaker 1: and so to have somebody else on if you're going
Speaker 1: to debate, um, this is why. Like one of the
Speaker 1: one of the cheapest things is when you know they
Speaker 1: love to some hosts love to do this. They'll take
Speaker 1: a call from someone who's clearly you know, conservative, will
Speaker 1: take a call from a host who's a guest rather
Speaker 1: who's clearly an idiot and not actually up for the
Speaker 1: debate of challenging them and just yell at them and
Speaker 1: call them an idiot on TV. You know, this is
Speaker 1: a little bit like, uh, the the conservative radio equivalent
Speaker 1: of somebody who wants to watch those videos of like
Speaker 1: the jackass guys back in the day, who would you
Speaker 1: remember those guys Mark who would like light m eight
Speaker 1: s in their underwear and do crazy stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know I'm talking about. Yeah, of course the jackass guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the jackass guys. You know, yeah, I mean you kind
Speaker 1: of watch it, but you know, you know it's really
Speaker 1: not you know, and just having somebody on air anything
Speaker 1: an idiot. You're an idiot, You're dumb, you know, yelling
Speaker 1: at people and being it doesn't help anybody. It doesn't
Speaker 1: help anybody, and it's cheap, it's cheap theater. So I
Speaker 1: want this guy, Balaji. I mean, I can't get them
Speaker 1: to join me on Well, actually you know what, I'll
Speaker 1: ask if we'll join me on radio. I feel like
Speaker 1: he'd say no, but I'll ask him if he'll join
Speaker 1: me on radio. We'll see um. But he said, one
Speaker 1: problem with this logic then this is in response to
Speaker 1: bethany One problem with this logic is that the economy
Speaker 1: is other people. So if older people stay home along
Speaker 1: with millions of cautious people, plus many tourists and business travelers,
Speaker 1: you don't actually get the economy back. Other countries have
Speaker 1: contained the virus. It's doable. So he's saying, we need
Speaker 1: to get to full on containment and then we end
Speaker 1: the lockdowns. I think that that's almost impossible, and if
Speaker 1: we wait that long, the economy will be dead. But
Speaker 1: this is actually where the debate is among serious people.
Speaker 1: So I responded to him, and I said, when people
Speaker 1: see lots of folks who are low risk under fifty
Speaker 1: going about their daily lives just fine, other people will
Speaker 1: become less scared and economic activity will grow over time. Essentially,
Speaker 1: let people who are at low risk and who are
Speaker 1: willing to take that risk engage in more activity, and
Speaker 1: not just economic activity, engage in more of day to
Speaker 1: day life. Okay, Balaji wrote back to me, over fifties
Speaker 1: are thirty percent of the population andicantly more of the
Speaker 1: net worth. If you add in folks with pre existing conditions,
Speaker 1: a big chunk of the US, white collar folks, foreign tourists,
Speaker 1: that's a big chunk of the economy. I guess we'll see. Now,
Speaker 1: see you notice that's that's a signal when you're in
Speaker 1: this world of fighting. This guy's a blue check with
Speaker 1: a with a pretty big following. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: blue check with a big following or pretty big following,
Speaker 1: whatever reasonably considerable following on Twitter. And but when someone
Speaker 1: says something like I guess we'll see. Oh oh, you
Speaker 1: mean they actually want to have an exchange of ideas
Speaker 1: because they know they don't know you're one of my
Speaker 1: recurring mantras here on the show, my recurring theme. Some
Speaker 1: of you may not like the mantra term, right, but
Speaker 1: some of the recurring themes that we have are things
Speaker 1: like no one can predict the future, and people who
Speaker 1: tell you they can are lying to you. Thinking that
Speaker 1: their analysis may be good about the future is one thing,
Speaker 1: but if they tell you they can see the future,
Speaker 1: they're lying to you. So the fact that he just said,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. Man, Okay, Well, now here's someone
Speaker 1: unlike the you want to kill grandma. You know, you
Speaker 1: have so much that you want grandma to die. You know,
Speaker 1: it's usually grandma too, not grandpa. I think that's a
Speaker 1: very interesting but it's always you want grandma to diet.
Speaker 1: It's become the line, which is a horrible and stupid
Speaker 1: thing to say. I mean, I love my grandparents very much.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately they've all passed along a long time ago. But
Speaker 1: this is just when people are trying to shut others
Speaker 1: down through a loud moral blackmail. So to his points though,
Speaker 1: to his points here about how over fifties or thirty
Speaker 1: percent of the population, that's a fair point, and that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wealth concentrated in the over fifties
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, but let's now, let's now look at
Speaker 1: this for a second. If people are returning to work
Speaker 1: who are at low risk and therefore exposing themselves, many
Speaker 1: of them already have I mean, I think it's fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: I have antibodies, And that's just a guess. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I think it's fifty fifty. Given the situation
Speaker 1: that I was in here in New York during the
Speaker 1: maximum spread of the disease, a lot of people under
Speaker 1: fifty already have antibodies. If they return to work, they
Speaker 1: will be possibly exposed, but then they will get antibodies.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get sick for week or two, and a
Speaker 1: very very small percentage might end up in the hospital
Speaker 1: and being really bad shape. But it's a very small percentage.
Speaker 1: But that means more and more people, as we're in
Speaker 1: the reopening, we'll have anybodies, which means that the vectors
Speaker 1: we start getting to this herd immunity concept, the vectors
Speaker 1: for the spread of the disease are fewer, and then
Speaker 1: you have people who perhaps are in their fifties and
Speaker 1: maybe even going up in their sixties, who start to
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable because it's less likely that the younger
Speaker 1: people that are already out there and working, it's less
Speaker 1: likely that they'll be a high risk of contracting the
Speaker 1: disease from them. And you see there's a snowball effect.
Speaker 1: I would also point out that we already have essential
Speaker 1: workers who are going out and doing their jobs. So
Speaker 1: we've taken a segment of the economy and said, well,
Speaker 1: that part of the economy is going to still go.
Speaker 1: It's not like we're in a true lockdown, and there
Speaker 1: are some risks to those essential workers and to people
Speaker 1: that are coming into contact with them their family. This
Speaker 1: is how we get to continue spread of this disease
Speaker 1: even though we're all supposed to be on lockdown. But see,
Speaker 1: my point is if we add low risk workers into
Speaker 1: the mix here to the essential workers, we start we're
Speaker 1: expanning the economy. We're returning and getting closer to normal.
Speaker 1: And then he gave me a graph of the percentage
Speaker 1: of age percentage, which was just a helpful data point,
Speaker 1: and we clarified that. And then I said, as for
Speaker 1: waiting until new infections are zero for reopen, which is
Speaker 1: this is where I have a disagreement with mister Bology.
Speaker 1: Sixty six percent of New York Hospel admissions, as we
Speaker 1: talked about here earlier in the show, we're from people
Speaker 1: locked away in their homes. The virus is still spreading,
Speaker 1: and the virus is still going up in many places
Speaker 1: across the country. So unless people believe that we're going
Speaker 1: to go to an even more extreme lockdown phase than
Speaker 1: what we're already in, which to me just sounds completely insane,
Speaker 1: we're never going to get to full containment of the disease,
Speaker 1: are our current projections a country this size, of this
Speaker 1: many people we have to, you know, and unless we're
Speaker 1: gonna say there's no such thing as essential workers anymore.
Speaker 1: No no one unless you work in a doc, unless
Speaker 1: you work in a hospital and you're trying to treat
Speaker 1: COVID patients, everyone just stay home, and we're just gonna, like,
Speaker 1: you know, live on the food you got in your
Speaker 1: fridge for a week or two or a month. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, buck, I mean, people don't
Speaker 1: have food. I know. That's why it's crazy. You can't
Speaker 1: do this right. You can't actually completely freeze the economy
Speaker 1: or people literally will go hungry and starve. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's why I that's what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: And then I also said to him, docs, I've spoken
Speaker 1: to say with velocity and scope of Oh no, I
Speaker 1: asked him about your thoughts on test and trace and
Speaker 1: he said docks. And I said, Docs, I've spoken to
Speaker 1: with about the velocity and scope of existing spread and
Speaker 1: deploying tracers across the country to hotspots, this is going
Speaker 1: to be minimally helpful. I'm gonna be right on this one.
Speaker 1: This test and trace theory, this is, this is absurd.
Speaker 1: This is not gonna work. I mean, people that are
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna work done what we're talking about. We
Speaker 1: also have many empty testing facilities, I wrote, all over
Speaker 1: the country already, and with asymptomatic spread, it seems unless
Speaker 1: we're going to force everyone to get tested every two weeks,
Speaker 1: the value of a national testing surge will be limited.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is and and then we had
Speaker 1: a nice I said, you know, thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: He said, thank you for your time we had. We
Speaker 1: had a kind of a nice close And so, you know,
Speaker 1: this is if you really want to have a debate
Speaker 1: with somebody about what's going on, this is where it is.
Speaker 1: Can we get to the point where we fully control
Speaker 1: this virus and there's almost no risk of going outside,
Speaker 1: and can we do that without destroying the economy and
Speaker 1: ruining our society? I say no. Some people say yes,
Speaker 1: and they'll point to particularly other countries that they say
Speaker 1: have controlled the virus very very well so far, Australia
Speaker 1: being one of about Australia, remember where they're on the
Speaker 1: flip of us see in terms of their seasons on
Speaker 1: the flip side. I'm wondering how well they'll do this summer.
Speaker 1: And also some countries have a much less dense population.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's just certain things about America that
Speaker 1: it's going to make it very hard to fully control
Speaker 1: the disease. And we're losing you know, I haven't even
Speaker 1: mentioned you yet because I got all fired up about this,
Speaker 1: but we've got three point two million people who have
Speaker 1: filed for unemployment for the first time last week. That
Speaker 1: brings the total number of jobs lost during the coronavirus
Speaker 1: crisis to thirty three point five million. We are heading
Speaker 1: to forty maybe fifty million lost jobs from this. Now.
Speaker 1: I saw this on the Wall Street Journal, I believe
Speaker 1: was the Wall Street Journal. It was a poll that
Speaker 1: said seventy seven percent of laid off workers think that
Speaker 1: they will return to their old job after the stay
Speaker 1: at home orders home. Well, you know that we're getting
Speaker 1: close to eighty percent of people think they're just going
Speaker 1: to take their own job. This is where I have
Speaker 1: to say, I hope they're right. I am pretty confident
Speaker 1: they're wrong. The costs that have been that have mounted
Speaker 1: for these businesses, and also what the businesses will be
Speaker 1: able to operate at even when the lockdowns end, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a very meager income stream for a
Speaker 1: lot of businesses once they open their doors. This is
Speaker 1: going to be a long, drawn out, phased in process
Speaker 1: no matter what. And that's if they make the right
Speaker 1: decisions and stop saying, oh the second wave and we're
Speaker 1: all gonna die. And you know, if they take if
Speaker 1: they take the right path here, it's still gonna be painful,
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be difficult. So I don't think that
Speaker 1: eighty percent or so of these of people who think this,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're correct. I think that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of lost jobs and jobs that aren't
Speaker 1: coming back because they are industries that won't be able
Speaker 1: to sustain even when they reopen, won't be able to
Speaker 1: sustain the workforce that they once did. What do we
Speaker 1: do with that? But for the forever lockdown crowd, we
Speaker 1: are not South Korea, we are not Australia, we are
Speaker 1: not Japan, and no one can even figure out what
Speaker 1: they've done that we haven't done that would let us
Speaker 1: even try to get to the level of virus control
Speaker 1: that's so far they've had. I mean, people will say
Speaker 1: test and trace, but that doesn't make any sense. Asymptomatic
Speaker 1: spread is fifty percent of the disease. You're going to
Speaker 1: test and trace three hundred and thirty million people. Think
Speaker 1: about this, Think about the infrastructure and the resources and
Speaker 1: the cost of even trying to do this. It's just
Speaker 1: not even gonna Meanwhile, we're getting three hundred thousand infections
Speaker 1: a day, you know, one tenth of one percent of
Speaker 1: people are actually getting hospitalized, and we're dying from this,
Speaker 1: which means you're getting every day, you know, every few
Speaker 1: days a million more people who are gonna end up
Speaker 1: with antibodies. Every few days, a million more people we're
Speaker 1: gonna end up with antibodies. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 1: we're just heading toward a her community. We just won't
Speaker 1: talk about it that way because we want to pretend
Speaker 1: that we can just save lives across the board without
Speaker 1: the economic costs. It's all very complicated. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: admit that it's all very tough. And as mister Balaji says,
Speaker 1: we'll see you're in the freedom hunt. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast. All right, got some good
Speaker 1: news to share with all of you. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about the story of Texas stylist Shelley Luther and
Speaker 1: who said that feeding her children was not selfish and
Speaker 1: that the people who worked for her who were going
Speaker 1: hungry themselves so they could feed their children and they
Speaker 1: wanted to go back and start styling people's hair again,
Speaker 1: they were not being selfish by doing their jobs. Well, darnatt,
Speaker 1: Texas is still Texas. It turns out, the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: of Texas has decided to order the immediate release of
Speaker 1: jailed Texas Salon owner Shelley Luthor. She was sent ince
Speaker 1: to a week in prison by a judge who really
Speaker 1: did not do himself any favors in the way that
Speaker 1: that whole thing came out. And she now has a
Speaker 1: gofund me page that has raised five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, still America, my friends, Still Texas for sure.
Speaker 1: She is released. Now, she has been released from prison.
Speaker 1: She's not going to spend seven days there. And these
Speaker 1: judges in the Texas Supreme Court said that the punishment
Speaker 1: was excessive and the jailing was unnecessary. This is off
Speaker 1: from the local affiliate down in Dallas. No Texan quote
Speaker 1: should face imprisonment for peacefully resisting an order that temporarily
Speaker 1: closed a lawful business and drastically limited their ability to
Speaker 1: provide for their family through no fault of their own.
Speaker 1: God bless Texas. My friends doing the right thing, showing
Speaker 1: the country how it's done here, and God bless these
Speaker 1: judges for making the right call. That's what we like
Speaker 1: to see. It does feel like America, after all, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Busson Show podcast. Remember to
Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. All right, Team Bucks Special Treat today.
Speaker 1: And I've been trying to get this guy on the
Speaker 1: show for a while, but you know, he's got beautiful weather,
Speaker 1: he's got to go out and serve sometimes. He's got
Speaker 1: his own fantastic three hour radio show on a wonderful
Speaker 1: station in San Diego that we now share KFMB, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, the best San Diego station that's out there,
Speaker 1: and he's doing a great show. He's also on the
Speaker 1: First which is on Pluto TV, where you can all
Speaker 1: see me and you can see Jesse Kelly, you can
Speaker 1: see Mike Slater, the one only Mike Slater of the
Speaker 1: MIC's later show My Friend. Finally, I'm glad that our
Speaker 1: people were able to get through to your people. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: like I have people. Welcome to my kitchen, Buck, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's quite are I mean, it's funny because your
Speaker 1: kitchen is like twice the size of my New York apartment,
Speaker 1: which is yet again another reason another reason why I
Speaker 1: should be moving from New York City right away. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Callie first. Go ahead, go ahead. I just
Speaker 1: say I think of you often. I'm not kidding because
Speaker 1: I think other than maybe like an Iowa meatpacking plant.
Speaker 1: You might be in the worst place in the country
Speaker 1: right now, literally not only New York City. But you're like,
Speaker 1: like I can see behind you. You're like in the
Speaker 1: densest part of New York City. What in the world, Like,
Speaker 1: can you go outside? Like what do you do? Right?
Speaker 1: I can walk my dog through Times Square in less
Speaker 1: than three minutes from where I am on foot. That's
Speaker 1: how close I am to the epicenter. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Time Square that area was the biggest outbreak of any
Speaker 1: zip code in Manhattan of the Five boroughs was Time Square.
Speaker 1: So basically I mean I live next to like the
Speaker 1: most hot zone in Manhattan, although there's other bigger hot
Speaker 1: zones in the Five Boroughs. And yeah, it's the most
Speaker 1: densely packed part of the whole city. And during the
Speaker 1: maximum spread of the virus, I was on the subway
Speaker 1: because I do two radio shows, as I think you
Speaker 1: may know, I was on the subway four times a day,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the three most crowded subway lines.
Speaker 1: So to your question about whether I was at a
Speaker 1: high risk of acquiring this, it's like I was running
Speaker 1: an experiment saying, Hey, guys, I really want to get
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. That's what I was doing accidentally. But you're
Speaker 1: out there in sunny You're out there in sunny California,
Speaker 1: so tell me this. You know, people have been Honestly,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been somewhat befuddled. Although I
Speaker 1: think you your weather, you're inherent social distancing of being
Speaker 1: in a car versus being a mass transportation And I
Speaker 1: would also say you're kind of generally healthier lifestyle. I
Speaker 1: know you guys have like pet therapists and do a
Speaker 1: lot of like yoga and the sun. But yoga and
Speaker 1: the son is good for you, and and it's certainly
Speaker 1: less likely to get COVID nineteen than you would being
Speaker 1: indoors on a crowded subway. So how is California doing
Speaker 1: right now? Gavin Newsom saying that they may actually open
Speaker 1: up stores what next week? Getting Fridays the plan? And
Speaker 1: now there's a whole drama there, because classic Gavin K. Newsom,
Speaker 1: classic politician, is just like, oh, I think yesterday or Tuesday.
Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna open up stores on Friday and
Speaker 1: we'll tell you which stores on Thursday. And it's like, well, geez, Gavin, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're a business owner, you don't. You can't just
Speaker 1: be like snabbed your fingers and open up twelve hours later.
Speaker 1: We need a little more advice. So we don't even
Speaker 1: know yet exactly what the details are on who's going
Speaker 1: to be allowed to open and whatnot. But I think
Speaker 1: San Diego in particular has done a really good job.
Speaker 1: I mean, our our healthcare capacity, we're like way under
Speaker 1: the healthcare capacity of line. People have done a good
Speaker 1: job kind of staying put. But I also think people
Speaker 1: are ready to get back out there and get back
Speaker 1: out to the beach. Are your beaches open right now?
Speaker 1: I mean I know that near you. What is it
Speaker 1: to Lahoya? Is that where one of the places where
Speaker 1: they have those really beautiful beaches? I mean, could if
Speaker 1: I were out there visiting Shay Slater, could I go?
Speaker 1: Could I go to the beaches of Lahoya? Or are
Speaker 1: they shut downs? I don't I don't even know if
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton could afford a house on the beach. Definitely,
Speaker 1: not not even close. Dude. I live in a one
Speaker 1: bedroom man, are you kidding me? Producer Mark needs to
Speaker 1: get me a guest bed. He actually has a real home.
Speaker 1: Far away from the water. But yeah, no, you can go.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta move. You gotta be moving, you
Speaker 1: can't sit down all that stuff. But what's encouraging is
Speaker 1: our sheriff's actually done a pretty good job, even though
Speaker 1: he's pretty question simble on a lot of things. And
Speaker 1: the Riverside County, which is just north the San Diego County,
Speaker 1: he just can't put out with a statement yesterday, I think,
Speaker 1: saying he's not going to turn Riverside County into a
Speaker 1: police state. He's not going to enforce you know, businesses
Speaker 1: who aren't doing their whatever they're supposed to do properly.
Speaker 1: He's going to trust the people to make the right
Speaker 1: decision and that has to be the proper posture moving forward.
Speaker 1: I know you've talked about the salon owner out in Dallas,
Speaker 1: Luther seven days in jail, Like, what are you lady
Speaker 1: talking about? You know, they've ordered her, they've ordered her released.
Speaker 1: They've ordered her released. Oh yes, thank good. I mean
Speaker 1: they just ordered ad Like, what is that? What is
Speaker 1: the point of that? What are we even trying to
Speaker 1: prove with moves like that. Luckily, our law enforcement here
Speaker 1: is doing a pretty good job. And Orange County so
Speaker 1: that was a couple of days ago Gavin Newsom ordered
Speaker 1: Orange County beaches closes closed. It's like like a punitive measure,
Speaker 1: like Orange County people, you didn't social distance enough, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to order just your beaches closed. But again
Speaker 1: checks and balances, the local sheriff and Orange County said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to enforce that stuff. You can go
Speaker 1: on the beach if you want at different times, and
Speaker 1: they're not cracking down on it like Gavin Newsom would
Speaker 1: want at least, and that's good. People are being pretty sensible.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's also it's so much more
Speaker 1: American to have people in positions of authority on issues
Speaker 1: like this say hey, guys, well I'm gonna trust you
Speaker 1: all to be responsible and I don't really even have.
Speaker 1: I mean, the legal authority for some of this stuff
Speaker 1: is questionable at best. But they're just saying, look, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're this is a public information campaign, not a demand
Speaker 1: at at gunpoint campaign to do everything they say, especially
Speaker 1: given how much this stuff has been shifting in recent
Speaker 1: recent weeks, where you know what's safe, what's not, Where
Speaker 1: the information is actually taking us, Uh, you know, Governor
Speaker 1: k Newsom. It sounds like he hasn't been I mean
Speaker 1: Cuomo has now has has now gotten the buckster upset
Speaker 1: with a lot of stuff that he's done. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's made some horrific decisions, and notably the stuff on
Speaker 1: nursing homes is just I can't believe with the incompetence
Speaker 1: has Newsom. You know, I'm thinking that the Democrats are
Speaker 1: gonna have to backfill somebody for Biden. And it's not
Speaker 1: I don't mean in a VP sends. I mean they're
Speaker 1: gonna just say, oh, it's not gonna be Biden. We've
Speaker 1: been hearing this about Cuomo for a while. Newsome people
Speaker 1: also have been talking about a little bit is he
Speaker 1: you know, is he coming out of this whole situation
Speaker 1: looking pretty good? Maybe because California just is inherently a
Speaker 1: better off state to handle this because of what I said,
Speaker 1: you know, the weather and the things that you all about. Um,
Speaker 1: but Houn's Newsom doing? What's the report card? Well? Yes, so,
Speaker 1: first of all, Newsom slick, right, and he's appreciating but
Speaker 1: like he's the slick politician, younger kind of hip cool,
Speaker 1: people love him, the gentle pre pandemic like people fall
Speaker 1: for his thing. You know what I mean. He's got
Speaker 1: like a kind of slick stir is smooth like I
Speaker 1: would I would buy. I would buy a vehicle or
Speaker 1: a gently used kitchen appliance from him, no question. God's goodness,
Speaker 1: So it's worth for a long time. And listen, this
Speaker 1: is a conservative who has no love for Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1: I think he's done a pretty good job. I'm giving
Speaker 1: a lot of grace. The name of the game for
Speaker 1: me this whole time has been grace to everybody, the politicians,
Speaker 1: to your neighbor, to everyone, because no one, like you said,
Speaker 1: no one really knows what's going on. We're starting to
Speaker 1: get a little better handle, but there's still so many
Speaker 1: unknown So a lot of these politicians I can give
Speaker 1: a lot of grace to. But Gavin, there's some things
Speaker 1: done a pretty good job. Again, they're computatively shutting down
Speaker 1: the beach. Maybe he's holding onto power a little longer
Speaker 1: than he should. I think he needs to loosen the
Speaker 1: reins a little bit. But it looks like he is
Speaker 1: as he talked about kind of opening up businesses. I
Speaker 1: think he's an okay job. Now. The one big thing
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to start getting some answers for it.
Speaker 1: Is he spent a billion dollars on masks from China,
Speaker 1: and I know speed was important, so you've got to
Speaker 1: kind of balance that out when you know everyone is
Speaker 1: in full panic vote. But now we're getting reports that
Speaker 1: mask across the country from China like aren't even close
Speaker 1: to the N ninety five standards. It's like like fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of what the actual standard is. So one day
Speaker 1: we're going to find out the quality of these masks
Speaker 1: that he bought for our billion dollars. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's I'm sure it's going to be like ten times
Speaker 1: the cost of what the masks normally are. But you know,
Speaker 1: he had to act fast and we'll see it. But
Speaker 1: that's like the one kind of big glaring thing that
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has done maybe wrong. Look that's from a
Speaker 1: conservative point of view. That's a pretty pretty strong report card.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here, I think. So I'm seeing here the California.
Speaker 1: You know, Los Angeles has what over eight thousand, Los
Speaker 1: Angeles County has twenty eight thousand. I know you're in
Speaker 1: San Diego, but twenty eight thousand confirmed cases, about thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred deaths, California is a fraction overall. What is a
Speaker 1: fifty four thousand confirmed cases for the whole state, and
Speaker 1: now that's confirmed cases with testing, right, that's not taking
Speaker 1: into account the urology extrapolation of how many people have
Speaker 1: antibodies to this. But you guys are at a fraction
Speaker 1: of the deaths that we have here in New York,
Speaker 1: you have a larger population. It feels like California, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as the politics of it would dictate it
Speaker 1: opening much more slowly. It looks like you guys are
Speaker 1: coming out of this thing. Okay, am I missing something? Now?
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild And what's frustrating in the name of
Speaker 1: unknowns is we may never know why. We did a
Speaker 1: segment a while back about super spreaders and how a
Speaker 1: city can do all the things right, but one super spreader,
Speaker 1: I think in South Korea he was known as case
Speaker 1: thirty one or thirty three or something. That one super
Speaker 1: spreader can like sneeze on a door knob and all
Speaker 1: these people get it and it spreads like crazy, and
Speaker 1: people are gonna look at all different areas in the
Speaker 1: country and around the world, and they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: come up with reasons they're like, oh, you know, the
Speaker 1: Italian's kiss on the cheeks, right, or this country doesn't
Speaker 1: have good healthcare, or people are gonna try to find
Speaker 1: like race angles or socioeconomic angles or whatever. People are
Speaker 1: always gonna try to explain it. And honestly, it's especially
Speaker 1: because it could just be New York. I mean New
Speaker 1: York super dead, so that's kind of like something. But
Speaker 1: people be like, oh, there was just a couple of
Speaker 1: super spreaders and it just spread it way more, and
Speaker 1: there's really no answer. It just kind of happened that way. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they be calipointed. There weren't a lot of
Speaker 1: super spreaders. New York is in a sense thus super
Speaker 1: spreader because the evidence that they're they're point of view
Speaker 1: today on the front pages of a bunch of newspapers
Speaker 1: is that New York cases we essentially created this. You know,
Speaker 1: the Petri dish of New York was overflowing, and then
Speaker 1: travel from New York once it had spread all over
Speaker 1: here to the rest of the country. See did outbreaks
Speaker 1: in Louisiana like for Marty Graf for example, seated outbreaks
Speaker 1: in Florida, in Michigan, in places all across the country,
Speaker 1: so one place, you know, you're talking about it on
Speaker 1: an individual level where one human being could end up
Speaker 1: being responsible for it. And then there was a I
Speaker 1: think there was also a case in South Korea somebody
Speaker 1: who went to a went to a church. Is that
Speaker 1: is that the same? And then this might be a
Speaker 1: different one went to a church and like one hundred
Speaker 1: people in the church ended up getting infected somehow for whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so can you make like, so what kind
Speaker 1: of grand conclusions can you make about that area in
Speaker 1: South Korea about there's sozio economic levels or culture or whatever,
Speaker 1: when it was just like someone who went to church
Speaker 1: and sneezed a couple of times. What do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think is though it's hard to make
Speaker 1: conclusive state, what do you think of Governor Pritzker of
Speaker 1: Illinois saying, yeah, no church until there's a vaccine. I
Speaker 1: think people were like, what you know, settle down, settle down,
Speaker 1: Chubby Beelzebub, like, what are you doing. There's a couple
Speaker 1: power trips out there that we're seeing, right, So the
Speaker 1: the Harvard judge from in Texas that we were just
Speaker 1: talking about, like, that's a power trip. Move man to
Speaker 1: put that guy for seven seven days. Put that one.
Speaker 1: There's another power trip move right, Like, if other businesses
Speaker 1: can have people keep their distance, then why couldn't a
Speaker 1: church also people keep their distance. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Why single out churches? I don't get that. I think
Speaker 1: that there's a hostility among people who love power of
Speaker 1: the state to the You know, they always talk about
Speaker 1: separation of church and state when they want to bash
Speaker 1: the church, and now all of a sudden, when the
Speaker 1: state has taken on all this power for itself, churches
Speaker 1: are the the whatever whatever essential is. Churches are the
Speaker 1: opposite of essential to these people. Yeah, wow, that's interesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is good. We need to keep them keep
Speaker 1: an eye off for the cincinnatiss So who are the
Speaker 1: cincinnatis is out there? Who are going to are you
Speaker 1: refer to the Roman general who is out Is this
Speaker 1: a Roman general called out of retirement to save the republic? Thing?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what we're going That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about looking at you. One of his story, as
Speaker 1: you know, is he gave the power back, right, So
Speaker 1: who are the governors who are going to give this
Speaker 1: power back once they've had a blood lust taste for it?
Speaker 1: In a way that they haven't had in their career. Certainly,
Speaker 1: will they give it back to the bloke I think
Speaker 1: you talked about it was like, no, he's not. And
Speaker 1: let me just reminder we're talking to Mike Slater, who
Speaker 1: is the host of the Mike Slater Show KFMB, the
Speaker 1: greatest radio station in San Diego in San Diego County,
Speaker 1: which I'm also on. So the two of us are
Speaker 1: on it, which clearly makes it the best radio station anywhere.
Speaker 1: By the way, like we just for people who don't know,
Speaker 1: I have been riding your coattails for like ten years now.
Speaker 1: I think I think everywhere you go, I end up
Speaker 1: following you. So I appreciate it. Well, I was going
Speaker 1: to tell you, I mean, now I'm jumping to the head.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we hit the first on Pluto TV.
Speaker 1: I have managed to put together you have like two
Speaker 1: of the nicest, funniest, best people on radio with Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly and Mike Slater. And you know, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: everybody should be watching this. Everybody should listen to this lineup.
Speaker 1: I mean legitimate For those of you you don't know, listen
Speaker 1: to my show. Mike Slater is one of the nicest
Speaker 1: pa it has been since he started the blaze. He's
Speaker 1: actually so nice. Did At first I was like, is
Speaker 1: he really this nice? Turns out he actually is. He's
Speaker 1: that good of a guy. Yeah. I'm throwing it out
Speaker 1: and thrown it all your right now, are you handling
Speaker 1: it up about that buddy? Nicest guy on radio, very talented,
Speaker 1: great show, the Mike's Later Show. You should all be
Speaker 1: checking out of listening. Here's a podcast too. You can
Speaker 1: listen to Mike's Later podcast. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: when when do you think are we breaking the damn here?
Speaker 1: Are we breaking the damn in in the reopen nationally?
Speaker 1: Or is this going to be a grind it out
Speaker 1: state by state, phase up, phase down fight? What are
Speaker 1: you seeing? Okay, Yeah, here's here's what I think. Who
Speaker 1: knows right? I've always thought, always thought the last week
Speaker 1: or so that it is going to be kind of
Speaker 1: like a bell curve and people are going to be
Speaker 1: able to make up their own minds and people are
Speaker 1: going to go into their own categories. How much time
Speaker 1: do we have? Do I have two minutes to explain us?
Speaker 1: About a minute? He got a minute? I can only
Speaker 1: give you a minute because we got a station break
Speaker 1: go ahead. So in technology adaption people, there are people
Speaker 1: who by the first iPhone as soon as it comes out,
Speaker 1: and then there's a certain percentage people who can't wait
Speaker 1: a little while. And then there's a certain percentage people
Speaker 1: who wait until they really need one. And then there's
Speaker 1: a certain percentage people who don't buy an iPhone until
Speaker 1: there's no more flip phones. And it's a bell curve
Speaker 1: early adopters who can google that a little more. I
Speaker 1: think that's the same thing here. I think a very
Speaker 1: small percentage of people want to go out to concerts
Speaker 1: now a little bit more. People are like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wait a week or so, and then you have me
Speaker 1: who's like, I'm gonna kind of la wait like a month.
Speaker 1: I got a two month old here. I don't want
Speaker 1: to push anything. I don't wait like a month. And
Speaker 1: then there's some people who write play are like, I'm
Speaker 1: not really gonna go anywhere for a while because I
Speaker 1: have health issues or I'm older or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: think it's like a natural bell curve distribution of when
Speaker 1: people are going to go, and people are going to
Speaker 1: make up their own lines based off the information we
Speaker 1: have We don't need gavinue From or any governor telling
Speaker 1: you you are allowed, you're not allowed, you can you can't.
Speaker 1: I think people are all adults and wise enough to
Speaker 1: do that by themselves. If I come out to San
Speaker 1: Diego so we can hang out with the fine people
Speaker 1: in the audience of KFMB, can you also teach me
Speaker 1: to surf. I'm not the best serve, but I can
Speaker 1: definitely treat you to a green smoothie. Maybe that's the
Speaker 1: California kale smoothie. Is what's keeping us healthy out here.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. All right, I'll take it. Mike's Later
Speaker 1: Everybody check out the Mikes Later show. Good, They're very overrated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike Slater's show. He's on What time Eastern time? Are
Speaker 1: you on KFMB one neon to three pacifics so three
Speaker 1: to six Eastern time, three to six Eastern time. Check
Speaker 1: him out and mister Slader, great to talk to you, sir.
Speaker 1: You stay safe out there. God bless you and yours.
Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Remember I appreciate him. You're in the
Speaker 1: Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Man,
Speaker 1: it was great to talk to Mike Slater. Although I
Speaker 1: gotta say producer Mark, I thought I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna be like, dude, I've been surfing like he he
Speaker 1: seems like he could be in Point Break with Keanna Reeves.
Speaker 1: But he's actually not a surfer. I mean not everyone
Speaker 1: who lives in San Diego surfs. You know that, right,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, But he is what I said before,
Speaker 1: I really mean that. I want to reiterate it. He's
Speaker 1: one of the nicest, best dudes in the radio business,
Speaker 1: which is full of a lot of not nice people
Speaker 1: who you know who are who are terrible. Actually, Mike's
Speaker 1: Later and Jesse Kelly are like two guys that you'd
Speaker 1: want to be friends with and you'd want as neighbors,
Speaker 1: you'd want them coaching your kids little league team or
Speaker 1: football team. They're they're just great dudes, and so it's
Speaker 1: it's an honor, honestly to be with them on Pluto
Speaker 1: TV the first along with along with Data Lash, who
Speaker 1: was a longtime friend and colleague, was fantastic. So anyway,
Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out that content, please do, meaning
Speaker 1: Pluto TV the first with Slater and also you can
Speaker 1: listen to The Slater Show. And I want to thank
Speaker 1: to find people San Diego. For listening to this show
Speaker 1: on KFMB, You guys are great. We are so honored producer.
Speaker 1: Even producer Mark was excited when we picked up San Diego.
Speaker 1: That says a lot. Thanks for listening to The Bus
Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. One thing
Speaker 1: I like to point out is the number of criminal
Speaker 1: cases and investigations brought against Republicans that quite clearly would
Speaker 1: never have been brought against Democrats. Off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, you've probably heard me say this before, but
Speaker 1: you can think of Scott Walker in Wisconsin and the
Speaker 1: efforts to use the John Doe laws of that state
Speaker 1: to silence and destroy people around him to take down
Speaker 1: Scott Walker, who upset the public sector unions and the
Speaker 1: Democrat apparatus of Wisconsin. No charges agains. Scott Walker didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong, but they were abusing There were prosecutors
Speaker 1: there as state prosecutors abusing their authority to go after him.
Speaker 1: Rick Perry in Texas, there was an effort to criminally
Speaker 1: investigate Rick Perry for abusive authority because he was going
Speaker 1: to withhold funds from a prosecutor who would not step down,
Speaker 1: who had been arrested herself for drunk driving, but they
Speaker 1: wanted to prosecute that as a felony misuse of his
Speaker 1: official position, and they had to drop back because it
Speaker 1: was so stupid. Governor Bob McDonald, who state authorities had
Speaker 1: no interest in going after, but federal prosecutors, no surprise there,
Speaker 1: went after him on the theory that even though he
Speaker 1: had received or had given no benefit of his public office,
Speaker 1: because he had hung out with a rich business man
Speaker 1: who had given him and his wife some gifts, literally
Speaker 1: just hung out with him, had him at parties there
Speaker 1: at the governor's mansion, he should face eleven years in
Speaker 1: federal prison, and his wife should also, who had no
Speaker 1: elected office whatsoever, she should also go to prison. Federal
Speaker 1: prosecutors a lacomie, if you will, the way that they
Speaker 1: do things. You know, that's can you think of any similarities? Oh,
Speaker 1: and then Donald Trump and the Russia collusion, I mean,
Speaker 1: of course that's the biggest one of all. Right, that's
Speaker 1: like the the mounts Olympus of all abuse of prosecutorial
Speaker 1: authority cases for political political means. But you will also
Speaker 1: remember the Chris Christie case. The Chris Christie case. This was, oh,
Speaker 1: this was reported on endlessly, endlessly by Democrat media as
Speaker 1: a major, a major story, I mean, a fascinating tale
Speaker 1: of abuse of power. And you even had Laurence O'Donnell,
Speaker 1: the blowhard host of The Last Word on MSNBC, say
Speaker 1: that a because a ninety one year old woman was
Speaker 1: delayed medical treatment because of the traffic jam that high
Speaker 1: level staffers, Chris Christie staffers caused. That it was the
Speaker 1: quote the Willie Horton moment of Chris Christie's presidential Campaignever,
Speaker 1: Chris Christie was running for president at the time, and
Speaker 1: O'Donnell said, quote, I haven't been able to get the
Speaker 1: name of the ninety one year old woman who was
Speaker 1: delayed medical treatment that day because the traffic jam had
Speaker 1: eventually died, and we don't know whether she died because
Speaker 1: of a delay and treatment. But in politics, that's not
Speaker 1: the way they played this game. So he didn't even know.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know. If you know, this woman could
Speaker 1: have been dead when they picked her up and took
Speaker 1: her in the ambulance. That can happen. She could have
Speaker 1: been done on a Bible. She could have had a condition.
Speaker 1: There was nothing they could do. And you know, he's
Speaker 1: ninety one years old. He doesn't know. All he knows, though,
Speaker 1: is that this is the end of Chris Christy's presidential
Speaker 1: campaign because of a traffic jam that was caused by
Speaker 1: some of his aids. And this was report. MSNBC really
Speaker 1: leaned into this one. They treated this like it was
Speaker 1: a fascinating political tale, and Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI
Speaker 1: were sent to federal prison for this for causing this
Speaker 1: traffic jam. Now, producer Mark lives in New Jersey. Producer
Speaker 1: Mark our traffic jams near the Lincoln Tunnel or the
Speaker 1: George Washington Bridge a rarity. They're almost always happening right now. No,
Speaker 1: but in a normal situation, there is almost always traffic
Speaker 1: in both of those tunnel bridge no matter what. Yes,
Speaker 1: pre pandemic. Anybody who knows the George Washington Bridge or
Speaker 1: the Lincoln Tunnel to get from New Jersey into Manhattan
Speaker 1: would tell you the moment that you start getting close,
Speaker 1: you kind of hold your breath. You're like, please don't
Speaker 1: have this speech there, because you can. This has happened
Speaker 1: to me a lot when I used to drive in
Speaker 1: from Washington, DC to come visit my family in New York.
Speaker 1: You can make great time for four hours and you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I made it from DC to New York. And you
Speaker 1: get within sight. You can see Manhattan, you can see it,
Speaker 1: it's right there. But you get stuck at that Lincoln
Speaker 1: Tunnel and my, oh, you can sit there for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes an hour like it's nothing, like, it's nothing,
Speaker 1: just sitting there, same thing that George Washington Bridge. Right,
Speaker 1: you can sit there all day. Man, there's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do about it. Now. The theory here was that
Speaker 1: these two aids to Chris Christie Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI,
Speaker 1: they created this traffic jam. They were guilty of federal crimes.
Speaker 1: They got sent to prison for a federal fraud and
Speaker 1: federal wire fraud. You know what. The wire fraud was
Speaker 1: writing emails to each each other to create This is
Speaker 1: when the federal government they can use all these statutes
Speaker 1: to just hammer you. But writing these emails constituted a
Speaker 1: use of wire fraud. And yeah, that's what they did.
Speaker 1: That's what they did. They charge them with Federal crown
Speaker 1: sent them to prison. Well, guess what the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: has thrown out the Bridgegate convictions and Justice Elena Kagan,
Speaker 1: who I will say, Elena Kagan is a liberal. She
Speaker 1: is a liberal, and she's on the Supreme Court. Elena
Speaker 1: Kagan is a smart lawyer. Elena Kagan is smart. I see,
Speaker 1: I admit what's true justice so to Mayor, for example,
Speaker 1: is a third tier lawyer and is just not at
Speaker 1: the level of understanding and comprehension of the law to
Speaker 1: be on the Supreme Court. Both liberals, but one of
Speaker 1: them very smart lawyer. The other one. Now, Kagan here
Speaker 1: wrote that not every corrupt and now I believe it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a unanimous ruling. It was a unanimous ruling.
Speaker 1: So I will give credit to every answer to everyone
Speaker 1: on the court that they made the right call, which
Speaker 1: this is. But it's also of course it's a unanimous ruling.
Speaker 1: Federal wire fraud for writing an email to start a
Speaker 1: traffic jam, Now this is this is the kind of
Speaker 1: act that, yes, people should be held it's a stupid
Speaker 1: thing to do. People should be held accountable. But this
Speaker 1: is something you get fired for. This isn't something you
Speaker 1: go to federal prison for. Starting to think of all
Speaker 1: the people that you know, during protests will stand in
Speaker 1: the street and block traffic. You know, yeah, should they
Speaker 1: maybe be arrested in process because they're actively personally blocking traffic? Sure?
Speaker 1: Do you send them a prison for four years? I mean,
Speaker 1: actually I kind of think sometimes we should. But still
Speaker 1: federal crime, that's what they're saying. And here's here's what
Speaker 1: the Selanna Kagan writing for this in this unanimous ruling.
Speaker 1: Here's how she put it. Quote not every corrupt act
Speaker 1: by state or local officials is a federal crime. Because
Speaker 1: the scheme here did not aim to obtain money or property,
Speaker 1: BARRONI and Kelly could not have violated the federal program
Speaker 1: fraud or wire fraud laws. End quote think of how
Speaker 1: and look, you know, give credit and the libs on
Speaker 1: the court even so am I or all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna minute. He's not a good lawyer, but you know
Speaker 1: they did the right thing. Even Ginsburg I think I
Speaker 1: had to call in for the oral arguments recently. Um
Speaker 1: there was this Babylon VP's about how they're trying to
Speaker 1: lock Ginsburg in Um not carp is it? Well, what's
Speaker 1: the thing that they put in Star Wars? They put you?
Speaker 1: Is it carbonite. You're not a Star Wars guy, No,
Speaker 1: sporing to me. Wow, and you still haven't watched the Mandalorian,
Speaker 1: have you? I have not. But producer Nick is telling
Speaker 1: us it is carbonite. Producer Nick, He's he's a he's
Speaker 1: a Star Wars buff. I know, yeah, carbonite. They're trying
Speaker 1: to lock. The joke and the Babylon Bee is they're
Speaker 1: gonna lock Ginsburg and Carbonite because and anything to make
Speaker 1: sure that she's okay, you know, she's still on the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, especially, I mean, if Trump wins reelection, They're
Speaker 1: they're not gonna I mean, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, but you're gonna see Ginsburg show up
Speaker 1: and this she'll be like the first, you know, cyborg
Speaker 1: that's ever been created. They're gonna whatever implants they have
Speaker 1: to put in the you know, the technology twenty first
Speaker 1: century sci fi stuff. Whatever they gotta do, they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: That's how much they value having a Supreme Court as
Speaker 1: a super legislature for the left. But but let's go
Speaker 1: back here to the moment to the throw out here,
Speaker 1: and they mentioned the Governor Bob McDonald conviction, which was
Speaker 1: also thrown out by the Supreme Court. These are Republicans.
Speaker 1: You think that's an accident. These are either Republican operatives
Speaker 1: or Republican polity titians who are over zealously prosecuted by
Speaker 1: the Feds. Oh, you mean the deep state has been
Speaker 1: around for a long time. You mean the deep state
Speaker 1: isn't just some new thing against Trump. Mmmm. That's right.
Speaker 1: If you're a lib if you're a Democrat, you get
Speaker 1: to you get to exist under a different set of rules.
Speaker 1: That's just That's just the way it is. That's what
Speaker 1: we see happening time and again. But this is the
Speaker 1: right move. How can you how can you be guilty
Speaker 1: of fraud and wire fraud for just doing, you know,
Speaker 1: doing something within your power? It is, it was within
Speaker 1: their powers to do this. They said that they called
Speaker 1: it a traffic study or something, but it was essentially
Speaker 1: a really dumb prank. And by the way, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a funny one. I think traffic is not funny.
Speaker 1: I think it's really frustrating. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know what producer Mark would do
Speaker 1: if you put them in traffic for two hours because
Speaker 1: of a prank and then you handed him a baseball
Speaker 1: bat and said, those are the people responsible. You don't
Speaker 1: want to what you know, it would not be pretty.
Speaker 1: It would not be pretty. He's gonnamit. It would not
Speaker 1: be pretty. So I understand, right, I understand. It's very frustrating,
Speaker 1: But yeah, they should be fired. They should be fired,
Speaker 1: and their reputation should be damaged. Federal prison. Where what's
Speaker 1: the fraud being a moron? If being a moron is
Speaker 1: a federal fraud and writing in an email about your
Speaker 1: being a moron is a federal wire fraud, we better
Speaker 1: really start locking up some politicians all over the place.
Speaker 1: This was absurd. The fact that federal prosecutors took it
Speaker 1: to this extent, the fact that that a judge allowed
Speaker 1: this to happen in the first case, a unanimous, a
Speaker 1: unanimous overthrow of this from a Supreme court just goes
Speaker 1: to show you, folks, there are a lot of political
Speaker 1: hacks and activists wearing robes and prosecutors all. You know, judges,
Speaker 1: robes and prosecutors are not like a normal robe. Hey,
Speaker 1: check out, not like that. I'm not a rope guy.
Speaker 1: By the way, I go to a hotel and I'll
Speaker 1: put on the robe. Just because I feel like you
Speaker 1: got to if you're really getting in the whole tell vibe.
Speaker 1: But I'm not a robe guy, never half been. Um,
Speaker 1: where was I? I just got confused for a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had to. Uh. I was thinking about a
Speaker 1: time when you could actually go to like spas in
Speaker 1: these places and you could live normal life and wear
Speaker 1: a robe. And you can't do that anymore. So a
Speaker 1: win for justice here. You know, these people, their reputations
Speaker 1: are ruined, their lives are forever, forever marred by this.
Speaker 1: But there shouldn't be in federal prison and even all
Speaker 1: the lives in the Supreme Court degree. But remember my
Speaker 1: initial premise here, where are the Democrats who are unfairly,
Speaker 1: unfairly distrodered. The only one that can come to mind,
Speaker 1: maybe for some of you, is Blogoyevich, who is clearly
Speaker 1: kind of a corrupt guy, but who who has come
Speaker 1: to Blogoevic's defense for overreach of the government Trump and Republicans.
Speaker 1: It's not Democrats that are saying, yeah, you know, Bligoievic
Speaker 1: wasn't really that bad. You got a raw deal. They
Speaker 1: like the same people who want to control every aspect
Speaker 1: of your life now under the pandemic. The same people
Speaker 1: who want to tell you, you know what you could
Speaker 1: eat and you have to recycle and no plastic bags
Speaker 1: being used and all this stuff. Those same people like
Speaker 1: that the state, the big s state, is able to
Speaker 1: crush anyone they want, using the courts and using the
Speaker 1: prosecutors weapons. That's not the country I want to live in.
Speaker 1: If you're going to go to prison, whatever you did
Speaker 1: should be able to be in one sentence. It should
Speaker 1: be clear what you did, why it's bad, and why
Speaker 1: you need to have your freedom taken away. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: be some combat. It shouldn't be like the Logan Act,
Speaker 1: for example, which they went after Flynn on right. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be some bullcrap that we all know is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Say you haven't bridge Gate slapped it down. You're in
Speaker 1: the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 1: We have a huge crisis here. We haven't had as
Speaker 1: many people unemployed since the Great Depression. Stores, businesses are
Speaker 1: closing all the time, More people are being laid off,
Speaker 1: people are being have trouble in every way economically. We
Speaker 1: need big, bold action and Speaker Pelosi and I are
Speaker 1: working very closely together on putting together a very strong
Speaker 1: plan which you will hear shortly. The people like McConnell
Speaker 1: and McCarthy and even Trump who say let's wait and
Speaker 1: do nothing, well, they remind me of the old Herbert Hoovers.
Speaker 1: We had the Great Depression. Hoover said just let's wait
Speaker 1: it out. It got worse and worse. We need Franklin
Speaker 1: Rooseveltian type action, and we hope to take that in
Speaker 1: the House and Senate in a very big and bold way.
Speaker 1: The progressive transformation now they will try because of the
Speaker 1: crisis we are going through is inevitable. Right, this is
Speaker 1: what the fight is going to become. We have the
Speaker 1: reopening fight, but we also have the what does the
Speaker 1: government do as we're trying because the reopen is not
Speaker 1: going to be easy, it's not to be clean, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be fast. So how much of a
Speaker 1: role does the federal government take in this whole process.
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting. We'll have to see how much of
Speaker 1: a role does the federal government have to prop all
Speaker 1: of this up and make sure that industries that are
Speaker 1: battered by all of this, that entire sectors of our
Speaker 1: economy that are their own life support, they're not going
Speaker 1: to come out of life support, so to speak, hopping
Speaker 1: around doing backflips and everything's gonna be fine. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be limping. These sectors are going to be barely able
Speaker 1: to move even once they're able to start some business again,
Speaker 1: they're able to re engage in commerce. But the Great
Speaker 1: Depression was exacerbated and elongated by the New Deal and
Speaker 1: by FDR. It lives always fight on this, They say
Speaker 1: it's not true. There have been exhaustive studies of it.
Speaker 1: If you know, maybe this is something. There's actually one
Speaker 1: author in particular I'm thinking of that I'll reach out
Speaker 1: to on this and see if she'll come on and
Speaker 1: just make the case, because people need to understand that
Speaker 1: this the the New Deal made things in the Great
Speaker 1: Depression works. It did not actually take us out of
Speaker 1: the Great Depression. So I know it's history, but the
Speaker 1: history is going to be informing policy right now. And
Speaker 1: that's why they're saying, well, you know, we need FDR
Speaker 1: type action, not the internment of people into camps. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Democrats will agree with that, right. Their
Speaker 1: hero FDR just kind of always gets a pass on
Speaker 1: that one. I also remember that he's still a hero
Speaker 1: to Democrats. And as we're in this era right now
Speaker 1: of more government control, more government power than we've ever
Speaker 1: seen before, how unthinkable is it really that they would
Speaker 1: try to force people, force people off of their land
Speaker 1: and start telling people under the quarantine rhetoric, right, under
Speaker 1: the quarantine rhetoric, you have to stay in this place
Speaker 1: that we tell you have to stay in. We're not
Speaker 1: there yet, but I didn't think we'd be where we
Speaker 1: are right now. And that was even a month or
Speaker 1: two ago where people are saying, yeah, we'll just stay
Speaker 1: in lockdown forever. One more thing, My buddy Kelly mckinetti
Speaker 1: had a great response. You know, she's now White House
Speaker 1: Press Secretary's doing a great job, and she had a
Speaker 1: response to an assault, a verbal assault of course from
Speaker 1: one of the reporters, just trying to undermine her early
Speaker 1: on in the job, make her look foolish. And this
Speaker 1: one was this was a fun This was a fun one.
Speaker 1: Play ten. Yeah, previous life, before you were Press secretary,
Speaker 1: you worked for the campaign and you made a comment,
Speaker 1: I believe on Fox in which you said President Trump
Speaker 1: will not allow the coronavirus to come to this country.
Speaker 1: Given what has happened since then, obviously, would you like
Speaker 1: to take that back? Well, first, let me note I
Speaker 1: was asked a question on Fox Business about presidents travel restrictions.
Speaker 1: I noted what was the intent behind those travel restrictions,
Speaker 1: which is, we will not see the coronavirus come here,
Speaker 1: we will not see terrorism come here, referring to an
Speaker 1: earlier set of travel restrictions. And I guess I would
Speaker 1: turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions.
Speaker 1: Does Vox want to take back that they proclaim that
Speaker 1: the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic. Does the
Speaker 1: Washington Post want to take back that they told Americans
Speaker 1: to get a grip the flu is bigger than the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: Does the Washington Post likewise want to take back that
Speaker 1: our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threat of
Speaker 1: the coronavirus? Does the New York Times want to take
Speaker 1: back that fear of the virus may be spreading faster
Speaker 1: than the virus itself. Does NPR want to take back
Speaker 1: that the flu was a much bigger threat than the coronavirus?
Speaker 1: And finally, once again the Washington Post, would they like
Speaker 1: to take back that the government should not respond aggressively
Speaker 1: to the coronavirus. I'll leave you with those questions and
Speaker 1: maybe you'll have some answers in a few days. This
Speaker 1: is where you do narrative voice, a narrative voice that
Speaker 1: they do not want to take. And they're not going
Speaker 1: to have answers to those questions and they will not
Speaker 1: be taking that back. All right, let's get let's get
Speaker 1: some roll call going here in a moment with producer Mark.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show past. Remember to subscribe
Speaker 1: on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get
Speaker 1: your podcasts. Hey, team Buck, it's time for roll calls. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have our tunes back. That's what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: Producer Mark, That's what I'm talking about. I also want
Speaker 1: to tell you that I watched the new Jerry Seinfeld
Speaker 1: stand up special last night with the Snow Princess and
Speaker 1: I would have you seen it yet? Yes, I watched
Speaker 1: it last night as well. Look at that we're so
Speaker 1: sympatica god. And I finished Waco. What do you think
Speaker 1: he was? Fantastic? Fantastic? All right? I mean ATF they
Speaker 1: make APF look like like a Mexican drug card doll.
Speaker 1: Or something that's really bad for the af and then
Speaker 1: they don't make the FBI look good at me. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the end there, but they
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen the end of yet, but
Speaker 1: I mean I know what happened. So but at least
Speaker 1: there's the one guy and the FBI is like, maybe
Speaker 1: we shouldn't just the way they portrayed there's that guy,
Speaker 1: the negotiator guy. I don't want to ruin it for you,
Speaker 1: but the way they portrayed he looks really good, the
Speaker 1: negotiator guy, and the other guys look the technical guys
Speaker 1: look awful. Oh of course, well you know that's coming.
Speaker 1: And also you have to remember that in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show, it's based on two memoirs. One of
Speaker 1: the memoirs that the show is based on is the
Speaker 1: negotiator guy. Yes, so it's not surprising. And he's like,
Speaker 1: I got an idea, maybe we shouldn't just kill everybody,
Speaker 1: And they goes like, no, we have all this cool gear,
Speaker 1: we're hardh speed, we gotta go in there and shoot
Speaker 1: everybody and everything. And he's like, but maybe we could
Speaker 1: d escalate for you know, You're like, uh, I think
Speaker 1: the d escalate guy might be onto something in this case, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I think I would have decided with
Speaker 1: a negotiator there. Yeah, the negotiator and the negotiate I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, I got on a da. Maybe we
Speaker 1: don't have to like absolutely create a catastrophe here and
Speaker 1: then and then the other FBI guys like, why are
Speaker 1: you search a whimp? Let's go in there, Let's blow
Speaker 1: everything up. You know, It's like, whoa those FBI guys
Speaker 1: are you know what else? No, Princess, we watched two
Speaker 1: things last night, um, and it was her choice. We
Speaker 1: watched the Seinfeld thing, and I will say, I'm obviously
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can ever do is try to
Speaker 1: take a comedians jokes and tell them because it never
Speaker 1: that's that's always like people will never want to talk
Speaker 1: to you again when you do that, because you just
Speaker 1: ruin it and it's not funny. But I think you
Speaker 1: can refer to the general topic and his thing about
Speaker 1: about porta potties. I mean, I was it actually like
Speaker 1: it was hurting me on the inside. Yes, that was
Speaker 1: like the funniest thing that I've I mean, because it
Speaker 1: was so some of his stuff about cell phones was
Speaker 1: really good too. But the porta Potti thing was was
Speaker 1: you know, I thought he started out a little almost
Speaker 1: like he was kind of nervous, like he hasn't done
Speaker 1: a long time. Like the first five minutes of the
Speaker 1: Seinfeld stand up, I thought were he you know, he
Speaker 1: was kind of getting maybe maybe that's true a lot
Speaker 1: of stand ups, but he was trying to get into
Speaker 1: a rhythm and it was a little yeah, the audience
Speaker 1: a little bit. He was warming up himself. Yes, it
Speaker 1: felt it. FA's right, it felt like he was kind
Speaker 1: of warming up to himself whatever. But when he got going,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it was was really good. He still
Speaker 1: has I still yeah, he's still. I mean with the
Speaker 1: porta potty thing, that was so funny that like later
Speaker 1: on I thought about it to myself and still kept
Speaker 1: kind of laughing. Um, and then on oh well with Waco.
Speaker 1: The other thing that snow Princess wanted to watch was
Speaker 1: a Diehard, which she had never We were looking for
Speaker 1: someone to watch kind of late night, you know, it
Speaker 1: was just passing out and she's like, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: die Hard. I was like, we could always watch die Hard.
Speaker 1: But in course, of course, in die Hard you have
Speaker 1: Special Agent Johnson and Special Agent Johnson who are like
Speaker 1: the quintessential jerk FBI agents in it. It's really funny,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when the guy it's kind of like
Speaker 1: the Waco guys a little bit. You've you've seen Diehard obviously,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, I remember the guys like, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: go in there hounding heavy. You know, think about thirty
Speaker 1: percent casualties for the hostages. I can live with that,
Speaker 1: And everyone's like, what it's The Waco guys are a
Speaker 1: little bit like that, you know, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of they're like, hey, you know, half the half the
Speaker 1: people may die in the shootout. We're going to start here,
Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta break gotta break some eggs
Speaker 1: to make an omic. I mean, since you know what
Speaker 1: the eventually happen. The Waco guys were worst of that technically.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh no, no, it's really bad. It's really bad.
Speaker 1: Um So, and you know at Ruby Ridge, the Weaver
Speaker 1: family at Ruby Rich they got three million dollars from
Speaker 1: the government. So it's not like you know that that
Speaker 1: thing was bad. It was on a much smaller scale,
Speaker 1: but that was a bad shoot too. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get to uh, I know, we get all excited
Speaker 1: about this stuff. I will say, though, I had one.
Speaker 1: I ordered from some gluten free burgers last night from
Speaker 1: a restaurant that I want to try. And you know
Speaker 1: when you read the when you read the reviews and
Speaker 1: you're like, maybe these people just don't like the place. No,
Speaker 1: they were right. I turned to snow Princess, I was like,
Speaker 1: do you like I was kind of like, do you
Speaker 1: like your burger, honey? And she's like she's trying, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you don't. But hey, we put some
Speaker 1: money in the local economy and people are still working.
Speaker 1: And you know she doesn't order a regular burger. Oh no,
Speaker 1: she had a regular one. Oh, I had a gluten free.
Speaker 1: So the gluten free and the regular burgers all sucked.
Speaker 1: Both that yeah, both bad. So that was a that
Speaker 1: was a miss. Swinging a miss from the buckster. All right,
Speaker 1: we got roll calls, so we gotta do it. And
Speaker 1: and the producer mark here it is Greta always like
Speaker 1: that name. Yes, Wisconsin is the Badgers, and our main
Speaker 1: college rivalry is the Minnesota Gophers. Oh gosh, Gophers. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the real Midwest beef is between Wisconsin
Speaker 1: and Illinois, though unfortunately I live about a half a
Speaker 1: mile from the Illinois Wisconsin border. Around here, Illinois residents
Speaker 1: are generally referred or commonly referred to as FIBs, effing
Speaker 1: Illinois bastards. WHOA, that's pretty intense Midwest beef, is it?
Speaker 1: That's funny? Their next line is Midwest beef is intense.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess there's nothing better
Speaker 1: to do than eight on each other. Where I come from,
Speaker 1: nobody cares about Mainland Michigan. The the the how do
Speaker 1: we say it, the up, the up upers. The up
Speaker 1: is cool. And yes, we all sound like that, although
Speaker 1: we like to pretend we don't. Oh yeah, we all
Speaker 1: sound like that, do you. Oh youup is great? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: it's a great place. Uh. And I didn't know that
Speaker 1: there's any I can't imagine people in the West having
Speaker 1: all this beef with each other. But I do know,
Speaker 1: for example, from d the NFL, which is the one
Speaker 1: sport that I have made an effort in recent years
Speaker 1: to really watch regularly, that the beef between the Vikings
Speaker 1: and the Bears is substantial. Yeah, and the Packers and
Speaker 1: the Bears and oh, the Packers and the Bears, and
Speaker 1: the Packers and Bears and Packers and Vikings even bigger actions. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can kind of you can kind of sense that.
Speaker 1: One the weird thing for New York is our is
Speaker 1: our New York Football Giants play in New Jersey. Their
Speaker 1: stadium is in New Jersey. So to your New York
Speaker 1: Football Jets, yeah, well, I mean, come out of Jets. Technically,
Speaker 1: the only New York football team is the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Good call. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell snow Princess is
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, So I'm gonna tell her that that little
Speaker 1: bit of that factoid. I am pressed her in the
Speaker 1: early days by telling her that the Google Dolls are
Speaker 1: in fact from Buffalo and are one of my favorite
Speaker 1: nineties rock bands. And I don't care what people say
Speaker 1: about that. The Google Dolls are great. I have a
Speaker 1: friend who was obsessed with them. They're great. Yeah, they're good.
Speaker 1: Their songs really stand up. I mean they're really catchy,
Speaker 1: you know, good musicians. Anyway, Matthew writes, Hey, Buck, I
Speaker 1: just saw a local restaurant called Publano's with a huge
Speaker 1: crowd outside. Turns out they've organized and an event focused
Speaker 1: on a special day. They're having all out held outside
Speaker 1: with social distancing encouraged. I'm assuming if it's if it's Poblanos,
Speaker 1: it was probably a Sinco de Mayo party. Not to like,
Speaker 1: but I mean right, yeah, if this was sent this week,
Speaker 1: then yeah, it has to be. Yeah. I love the
Speaker 1: ingenuity in their persistence through the crisis. It's truly American strong.
Speaker 1: North Carolina is sick of the quarantine. Shield tie Buck,
Speaker 1: please continue to keep us safe and warm at night, Matthew,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, Shield tie Keeping you safe
Speaker 1: and warm at night, That's what we do. Randy, hey Buck,
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about your nerd trophies. Thanks Randy. I
Speaker 1: want producer Mark will make sure that I'm kept in
Speaker 1: check with my nerd trophies. I competed in some chess
Speaker 1: tournaments back in the day. I didn't get no trophies,
Speaker 1: just a piece of paper. Only one girl was ever
Speaker 1: impressed by my chessboard prowess. Lol. I feel a little
Speaker 1: gross after reading the last sentence. Shields High. You know, Randy,
Speaker 1: chess is I like chess? Actually, I think chess is
Speaker 1: a fun game. It's a fun game to play with
Speaker 1: somebody because you really you know, you can get super
Speaker 1: intense about it, or you can play more relaxed chess.
Speaker 1: My preferred version of playing chess with someone is with
Speaker 1: like a nice glass of mescal or to kill in
Speaker 1: the rocks, or a nice red wine in hand. You
Speaker 1: know that's the way to do it. Maybe play some tunes,
Speaker 1: sit back, relax and let cat Stevens, let the cat purr.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's what you want to do. It
Speaker 1: sounds offensive to people who play chess competitively, I know, right,
Speaker 1: the people that are really into it, or chess nerds.
Speaker 1: I want a bishop tonight six. I will take your
Speaker 1: rook with my bawn. I don't know why they're all Russian,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden what they are, because we all
Speaker 1: know the Rooskis are good at chess, right, Sure, I
Speaker 1: to feed you. I will crush your keying and take
Speaker 1: him from you just like that. No, that's exactly how
Speaker 1: they sound. I'm sure that's exactly how they all say.
Speaker 1: Going to the park, even you'll see some guy they're
Speaker 1: named Igors like I will play you in speed chess.
Speaker 1: We will we will play for money, or we will
Speaker 1: play for who will cut off their finger. I feel
Speaker 1: like this was a storyline on the Nickelodeon cartoon. Hey, Arnold,
Speaker 1: there's something about chess. I've never seen that cartoon. I
Speaker 1: even heard of it, so I'll have to take your
Speaker 1: word for it. He really are old. My name is Suragay.
Speaker 1: I will take your house and all of your money
Speaker 1: if you don't win this chess match. That's how it goes.
Speaker 1: That's how it goes. Chris Buck love the show. I'm
Speaker 1: slow so it took me a bit to realize. Oh okay, Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Man covid has now replaced climate farce
Speaker 1: as a means of establishing nearly full so control. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think he slowly realized that, not that he loves
Speaker 1: the show now and now I get it. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: if it takes you want to love the show. As
Speaker 1: long as you love the show, I'm happy. Clearly the
Speaker 1: host will slow to realize things too. Wow, it's like that.
Speaker 1: It's like that. You guys could all read you guys
Speaker 1: should write it now and tell producer Mark he has
Speaker 1: to be nice to the host anyway. It gives them cover,
Speaker 1: since even one life loss is too many, except of
Speaker 1: course baby booh gosh, baby butchering, which is life saving
Speaker 1: to them. If this doesn't wake people up, nothing short
Speaker 1: of a police state will even then it will take years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know they've they've there's been an ideological shift toward
Speaker 1: lockdown and the collective lockdown. The collective is lockdown consensus
Speaker 1: that this this can give them everything that they normally
Speaker 1: want and can't achieve through legislation or through constitutional means.
Speaker 1: There has been that shift that has occurred, So we
Speaker 1: need to keep that in mind. We need to remember that.
Speaker 1: Becky hey buck, how do we use a nation charge
Speaker 1: the governors with treason who are not opening up their states,
Speaker 1: holding people hostage and not letting our countrymen live free lives.
Speaker 1: They're withholding freedom from citizens. As you know, my state
Speaker 1: has been opening up in increments, but feel as slow
Speaker 1: as heck, and my states started opening the very first
Speaker 1: group of states that opened, we still have not been
Speaker 1: able to go shopping at a department store for necessities
Speaker 1: such as undergarments. Also, how the heck do we get
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi out cannot barely stand abiding in the same
Speaker 1: country with this lying, devious, more than privileged excuse for
Speaker 1: a house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, she's she's a master legislator.
Speaker 1: She's gonna just you know, she's Trump is Trump is
Speaker 1: the devil. And you know, I don't know, man, how
Speaker 1: do you get rid of Pelosi? You know, tell the
Speaker 1: Libs to stop voting for the worst person ever. And treason,
Speaker 1: as you know, is giving aid and comfort to the
Speaker 1: enemy under law, So you can't get any these people
Speaker 1: for treason. And you know, I think that um, some
Speaker 1: are not opening the states up because they are really
Speaker 1: really worried. But a lot are not opening them. And
Speaker 1: I mean this citizens as well as leadership and political leadership,
Speaker 1: but a lot are also not opening it up. I
Speaker 1: think for the political reasons of control and economic suppression.
Speaker 1: Right an economic suppression is in a sense very much
Speaker 1: tied to control, because if you continue to suppress this economy,
Speaker 1: it means that you will be able to rest control
Speaker 1: away from Trump and have control yourself. That see word
Speaker 1: keeps coming up for a reason. It's very central to
Speaker 1: the left's thinking. The Libs are obsessed with it. You're
Speaker 1: in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and
Speaker 1: Show podcast more roll Call here. Jonathan writes, Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: if it makes you feel better. No one can whistle
Speaker 1: with a mask on Producer Mark. I think that's probably true,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Maybe they can and you just can't hear
Speaker 1: it as much, right, but so it would be a
Speaker 1: stifled whistle. But can you even I feel like it
Speaker 1: would be difficult, would be you know, I mean not
Speaker 1: that I'm good at whistling, like actually can't whistle. But
Speaker 1: that's not why I hate it. Whistling is an auditory
Speaker 1: violation and it's terrible. No whistling, I know. See, I
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna do that. He's just being he's
Speaker 1: just being mean. Now he's you know, Prucer Mark is
Speaker 1: just running around spiking the football in the end zone
Speaker 1: with his whistle at the end of the show because
Speaker 1: he knows I'm happy that we got through another fantastic
Speaker 1: show and so he can get away with his nonsense today.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's as long as you never do
Speaker 1: and I'm don't do this one on the show because
Speaker 1: people people will their ear drums will explode, or at
Speaker 1: least mine will. The thing where people put the fingers
Speaker 1: in the mouth though in the football stadiums that I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't even do that. The person that
Speaker 1: is near you does not want their ear drums blown
Speaker 1: out so you can make a stupid whistle sound. Don't
Speaker 1: do that, folks. I've happorting events too. It's just it's
Speaker 1: not that I mind the whistling, is just don't do
Speaker 1: it next to me. It's just super obnoxious because it
Speaker 1: really is only loud to the people right next to you,
Speaker 1: and it's super loud to them, and no one else cares.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people think that's cool. That should
Speaker 1: be banned, banished. It should get you like you should
Speaker 1: be treated like the person of Master Square arden who
Speaker 1: throws his hot dog on the floor, you know, in
Speaker 1: front of it or you know, I mean on the
Speaker 1: basketball floor or on the ice, yes, which is where
Speaker 1: they play hockey. See, I know some things. It's where
Speaker 1: they play hockey on the ice. True, you know, Producer Mark,
Speaker 1: I will tell you I actually tried, and I know
Speaker 1: it's on Disney Plus, so I will watch it. I
Speaker 1: tried to convince No Princess to watch Miracle, and you
Speaker 1: know what, you don't want to watch it because we
Speaker 1: were so tired that you wanted to watch the whole
Speaker 1: thing through. Okay, watch it. I'm excited for that, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a producer mark recommendation there. Instead, we
Speaker 1: watched the first thirty minutes of Diehard and fell asleep
Speaker 1: to Lula likes Diehard too, though she's into it. She's like, yes,
Speaker 1: die Hard, all right. Michael writes, Buck, I really liked
Speaker 1: your segment with Andy Dean. I used to listen to
Speaker 1: him on radio every day back in the day. Hearing
Speaker 1: two big brains discuss politics and policy is great content.
Speaker 1: She'll tie from Austin KLBJ. Austin, what is up. Great
Speaker 1: to talk to you, folks. Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that we've had a lot of growth
Speaker 1: and team Buck Austin for the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And KLBJ is a fantastic station and we're honored to
Speaker 1: be affiliated with it. As for Andy Deane Andydine and
Speaker 1: I become friends over the years. He's a really sharp guy,
Speaker 1: really smart dude, and we just get along. And you know,
Speaker 1: he was a very solid radio host in his own
Speaker 1: right when he was on the air, and you know
Speaker 1: now he's been doing more entrepreneurial business stuff, but he
Speaker 1: occasionally does some commentary. He used to go and see
Speaker 1: an n a fair amount as a Trump surrogate back
Speaker 1: in back in twenty sixteen. And you know, Andy and
Speaker 1: I we just look, he's he's smart, no stuff, and
Speaker 1: we respect each other and we get we have good conversations.
Speaker 1: And so I got nothing but high fives and good
Speaker 1: feelings about Andy and anything I can do to help
Speaker 1: him here, and we're gonna get him on the show more.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's somebody that I think should be his
Speaker 1: voice should be heard by more folks. Rob, Right, So
Speaker 1: you missed the most obvious flaw in cuomos. You might
Speaker 1: kill someone if you don't wear a mask. Speech. If
Speaker 1: I go on in public without a mask and someone dies,
Speaker 1: they were almost certainly at risk. So if they are out,
Speaker 1: they put themselves at risk, not me. I say, mandatory
Speaker 1: masks at essential places like the supermarket anywhere else you
Speaker 1: go there, you take your chances, Rob, interesting theory. Thank
Speaker 1: you for writing in Edmund. So it's been shown that
Speaker 1: using antibodies from people that had COVID nineteen to cure
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen works. Why can't the government pay people with
Speaker 1: anibodies to donate their blood for making these cures? Several
Speaker 1: million people have the antibodies now, Edmund, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's that clear and that effective. I think it's considered helpful.
Speaker 1: This is also the fancy way of saying it's convalescent plasma,
Speaker 1: but it's just antibodies in the blood being pulled out
Speaker 1: and given to somebody else. If you're really too far gone.
Speaker 1: Part of the problem is by the time people get
Speaker 1: to the hospital, they're often too sick and too far
Speaker 1: gone for really any treatment to be very effective. And
Speaker 1: other people who aren't that far gone aren't that sick.
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell if they're getting better because of
Speaker 1: the treatment or if they were going to get better anyway.
Speaker 1: But Edmund, I do appreciate you writing in and sharing
Speaker 1: thoughts on this one. And let's save the red. We've
Speaker 1: got some more great roll calls here. Let's say those
Speaker 1: for tomorrow. We've got some fantastic guest lineup for tomorrow too,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a great show. My friends. Please
Speaker 1: do pass the buck. Tell somebody just do me a favor.
Speaker 1: It really is a favorite, and I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Tell someone you know, text them, email them, send them
Speaker 1: a link to the buck Sex and show. Say you
Speaker 1: gotta listen to this guy on radio. It's really worthwhile.
Speaker 1: That is my early Christmas and Birthday present this year,
Speaker 1: so for me and producer Mark, although for him it's
Speaker 1: a Hanakah present, but that's you know, you guys already
Speaker 1: know that, all right, everyone, thanks so much for listening.
Speaker 1: She'll tie