1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom much When does the shutdown end? 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: New unemployment numbers, the debt crisis grows. De Blasio says 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: no protests allowed. Where's the praise for Florida. Pritzker, the 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: governor of Illinois, says, no going to church until there's 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: a vaccine. Biden's hypocrisy is mind blowing and what's fine 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: as ever constitutional? That and more coming up? Buck sextonially 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: coding the news and disseminating information which actionable intelligence? Or 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: make no mistake American break You're a great American again. 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: This is the Bucks Sexton Show. Homes CIA analysts. I 10 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: can speak to three hours without a phone call. Try 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: doing that sometime. If you ask them what can we 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: do for you? What can we get you what you need? 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: To a person, no matter where they work across this country, 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: they say the same thing to me, stay home, Please 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: do what you can to keep cases down. So my 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: question is how many of us who say we love 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: them don't really show that love. My message for all 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: of you on this day is show the love. Do 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: what you can to keep cases down. Your choice isn't 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: just about you. You know now that it affects others, 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: including maybe them, And how about our government get them 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: the damn ppe they need. Have it made in this country. 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Remember Rosie the Riveter. These are desperate times. Everybody says it. 24 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: How about having desperate times call for desperate measures. Really, 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: America can't muster making gowns and masks when we made 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: aircraft carriers and be twenty four bombers. Also, here's something 27 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: else that would be really great for them, a new 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: bill in the House from New York Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney. Now, 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: the bill would forgive student debt for all healthcare workers 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: who are literally putting their lives on the line to 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: save others. There's precedent for this. We do it for 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the military, and we should, oh my so much to 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: work here there. Welcome to the buck, Sex, and show 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: everybody appreciate you joining. Well, that's starting to get a 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: little sunni or a little warmer here in New York, 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: thank god. So that'll be helpful hopefully wherever you are 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: across the country. The weather is improving, when your own lockdown, 38 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: when the country is in as difficult as a position 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: as it is right now, anything that you can look 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: to as improvement, you got to celebrate a little bit right, 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: so better whether even the small things you have to 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: become appreciative of. But here we have not the Governor Cuomo, 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: but in fact bro Cuomo, the CNN anchor who managed 44 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: to turn his own case of COVID nineteen into a 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: piece of performance theater, as we saw when he emerged 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: from a basement on CNN. And we all know that 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: he had already left the basement, gone out, and he 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: was infected with COVID nineteen. And here he is lecturing 49 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: the rest of us. If you care about nurses and 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: first responders, if you really want to help them, you 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: know what you'll do. Stay home, stay home. We're now 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: on two months of staying home. We're gonna get to 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: what three months of staying home? Four months of staying home. 54 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: At some point I'm just going to say no, I 55 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: think a lot of other people are already there. In 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: New York we have a greater risk than other places 57 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: across the country. Not every place, but New York has been, 58 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: as we've discussed many times, particularly hard hit by this. 59 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: But now we reach this stage where we understand what 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: the economic consequences are starting to look like. We haven't 61 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: seen the full scope of it, and I've just got 62 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: to say, the hypocrisy from bro Cuomo here is pretty stunning. 63 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: This is someone who just like George Stephanopolis, when he's 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: been seen walking around, you know, without his mask on, 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: and he's lecturing everybody else about how he needs to 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: how they need to be wearing masks. This has become 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: a big exercise in virtue signaling for people, you know 68 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: where where your mask be a good patriot even though 69 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: wearing masks outside all the evidence, all the data shows 70 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: that it is not in fact necessary. I mean for 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: some of you, if you want to do it, that's 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: up to you, but it's not something that people should 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: should certainly be legally obligated to do in public. And 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: so this is where I've got to say, it's it's 75 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: time for us to start having more frank conversations about 76 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: what we really think is going to happen here. It's 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: easy to lecture everybody about how just stay home protect 78 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: our frontline healthcare workers. What does the rest of society do? 79 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: We can leave until when when does lockdown end? What 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: are we really going to do if lockdown can continues 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: for another six, nine, twelve, eighteen months. We were told 82 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: all along that we would not get to this point. 83 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: We were told that this was about flattening the curve, 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: making sure that hospital capacity was not overwhelmed. Now we're 85 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: being told that it's we have to live in this 86 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: really perpetual state of lockdown until the vaccine comes along, 87 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: and who knows when that will be, but we'll be 88 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: in this perpetual state of lockdown until the Libs decide 89 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: that it's okay. And increasingly, I've got to say it 90 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be right around mid to 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: late November twenty twenty when really we can start talking 92 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: about the lockdown's ending. I wish it weren't the case 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that it were this blatantly political, but I think we've 94 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: gotten there already because you can't make the case there 95 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: is no case that we would be wise to continue 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: doing what we do given what we know about the virus. 97 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, here is now, there is Bro Cuomo. Do 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: we even lift Bro the CNN anchor who has managed 99 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: to become more prominent over there than ever based on 100 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things, including threatening to throw a 101 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: substantially smaller weaker man down a flight of stairs in 102 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: a crowded public restaurant in the very fancy vacation resort 103 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: of Shelter Island, knowing that he was on video and 104 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: really showing everybody what a tough guy he was. Some 105 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: conservatives thought that that was a good reaction. No, you 106 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: can mouth off to somebody when they mouth off to 107 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: you in public, But to square off against them when 108 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: you have your wife and kids nearby and they're clearly 109 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: not a physical threat to you, and to threaten to 110 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: throw them down a flight of stairs when you're a 111 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: public figure, when they've made no physical threat against you, No, 112 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I think that was crazy, and I'm surprised that that 113 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: people look at to each his own, but I'm surprised 114 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: that people thought that that was a normal response. If 115 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: someone threatens you, yeah, then you then you can threaten 116 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: them back. But if someone just calls you a name 117 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: you don't like, I could call names I don't like. 118 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: All the time people say stupid, mean things to me. 119 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: I honestly, I'm gonna fight you. So that's what that's 120 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: what idiots do. I'm gonna fight you spend well, especially 121 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: online on Twitter, right, I'm never going to see these people, know, 122 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: what are we really gonna do? Although I do think 123 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks exit Alex Jones charity boxing match would probably 124 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: be that would probably be quite entertaining for folks. So anyway, 125 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: the the problem that we're running into is that they're 126 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: moving the goalpost, pretending to like they're not, and there 127 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: there is no exit plan from the lockdown for the libs. 128 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: They've set all these different uh, these these different trip wires, 129 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: if you will. They've put in place all of these 130 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: benchmarks that we have to hit that they know we're 131 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: not going to hit. So then it just turns into 132 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: their discretion because what's gonna happen is they're going to 133 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: start to have to waive certain benchmarks and say, Okay, 134 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna ease this, We're gonna ease that. You know, 135 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: California is moving to open retail stores next week. You know, 136 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: there's all this good news, and then there are still 137 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: people that are, oh, no, coronavirus. We can't leave, we 138 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: can't go outside. But if you look at what's happening 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: around the world, there's good news from the perspective of 140 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: opening back up societies. Germany's opening up. Italy is in 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: the stages of reopening Spain places that have been hit 142 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: terribly by the disease. Are saying, look, we we got 143 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to start living life again. So why is it that 144 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: America is the country that we're all a second wave 145 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: and we can't go outside. Here's Governor Cuomo in New 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: York and unfortunately, New York really is the template. Was 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: used as the template for how the rest of the 148 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: country needs to respond to this virus, which was wrong. 149 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: But New York became the test case that everybody else 150 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: had to rely on for their own reactions, and the 151 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: data coming out of New York, we extrapolated from that 152 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: what we should do for the rest the rest of 153 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: the country. And it was a mistake. It was a mistake. 154 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Here's the governor of New York State telling us all 155 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: reacting to this stunning bit of news. You remember, we're 156 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: told a lockdown is saving a lot of lives because 157 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: lockdowns are preventing the spread of disease. Meanwhile, if you 158 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: look at charts of different countries, every country has this. 159 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, you see a big spike in cases and 160 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: then the drop off in cases. Now some you know, 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: the numbers are different because the population sizes are different. 162 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: But whether they've gone with extreme lockdown or minimal lockdown 163 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: like in the case of Sweden, the curve seems to 164 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: be pretty much the same. So where is the where's 165 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: the real benefit that we see from these lockdowns? It's 166 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: always been assumed that if we do what they say 167 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: with this, there'll be far few will is it far 168 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: fewer cases in the long run or far fewer case 169 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: there's week to week and extending it out because this 170 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: is the concept that the people that are the lockdown forever. 171 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: This is what they don't understand. If you have a 172 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: six month long run of this virus, and let's say 173 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: you do the bare minimum of mitigation and you end 174 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: up with one hundred thousand dead, which is it looks 175 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: like right now we're heading for one hundred thousand dead 176 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: between now in August. Whatever the models and the models 177 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: keep changing. Who knows, the models are wrong all the time. 178 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: But if you're one hundred thousand dead, if we did 179 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: extreme mitigation for let's say eighteen months, So if we 180 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: kept the lockdown going for eighteen months and you still 181 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: end up with one hundred thousand dead, have you really 182 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: limited the infections or are you just slowing the speed 183 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: with which people are becoming infected? Now? It's tough to 184 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: answer that. They would say, well, no, you're at one 185 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: hundred thousand and not two hundred thousand dead over the 186 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: same period of time. But is effectively everybody going to 187 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: get Is everyone going to get infected with this over time, 188 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: because then the mortality rate is very likely to be 189 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: whatever whatever it is for the disease is what it's 190 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: going to be over the overall population. Are we heading 191 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: for actual slow speed herd immunity or do we think 192 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: that somehow we're going to just stop the disease because 193 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: the initial program it was fifteen days to slow the spread, 194 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,359 Speaker 1: not to stop the spread. Now we've got people suggesting 195 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: that we can stop the spread if only we stay home. 196 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: This is where Governor Cuomo has got a problem though, 197 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: because people are staying home and they're still getting infected. 198 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Play clip three. This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly the people 199 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: were at home where there's been a lot of speculation 200 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: about this. A lot of people again had opinions, a 201 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: lot of people have been arguing where they come from 202 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: and where where we should be focusing. But if you notice, 203 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: eighteen percent of the people came from nursing homes. Less 204 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: than one percent came from jail or prison, two percent 205 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: came from the homeless population, two percent from other congregate facilities, 206 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: but sixty six percent of the people were at home, 207 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: which is shocking to us disproportionately older, but by the way, 208 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: older starts at fifty one years old. Two thirds of 209 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: people that are hospitalized with COVID, and the most recent, 210 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: the most recent weekly data they have two thirds of 211 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: them were on lockdown or staying home and they're still 212 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: getting infected. So either you look at this and you 213 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: say there are only a few possibilities here. You have 214 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: people who are in the very limited travel they do, 215 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: going to the grocery store, going to the pharmacy, still 216 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: even doing that once or twice a week, getting acted 217 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: in numbers that are large enough to be concerning. We're 218 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: still seeing a steady stream of infections here in New York, 219 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: and then across the country you have more and more 220 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: people who are still getting infected. But we're home. The 221 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: cell phone data has showed that over ninety percent of 222 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: people have been adhering to the lockdown based on the 223 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: GPS monitoring that money it's monitoring. Talking about the master 224 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: valence state, we're already had a master valence state. It's 225 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: just until somebody figures out how to really harness it 226 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: and really use it. Well, they're called social media companies, buck, 227 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: But this is where we are. We still, even with lockdown, 228 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: have three hundred thousand This is from doctor Scott got Leave, 229 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand new cases a day. So all these 230 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: people are saying we're saving all these lives through the lockdown. 231 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean we're going three hundred thousand cases a day. 232 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: How many cases day will we get if we went 233 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: to work but still try to limit mask gatherings and 234 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: took some of these, Oh, it will be a million 235 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: a day. It will be ten million a day. And 236 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: even with the lockdown. I mean, this is the people 237 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: part of the false choice that's set up here. And 238 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I know this is all kind of it gets so 239 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: conceptual and what's going on, But our society is at risk. 240 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean, our economy is dying. It is dying right now. 241 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: I have the unemployment numbers and we'll talk about that 242 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: at a moment. But the people who don't want to 243 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: reopen keep saying that people will die if we reopen, 244 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: and you said this, well, people are dying right now, 245 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: even with the lockdown, and we're having this enormous societal 246 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: not just economic, I mean, our whole society is bearing 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: this tremendous cost. And people won't soon forget the images 248 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: of parents arrested in front of their children for going 249 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: to play in a playground and law enforcement officers going 250 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: along with it. My friend, I know that you do 251 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: not judge the whole community of hundreds of thousands of 252 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers across the country of the actions of 253 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: any one, two, or a few dozen. But perception is 254 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: a different thing from reality here, and we've had a 255 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: few very bad looks of over zealous, over aggressive law 256 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: enforcement with regard to the social distancing and the lockdown stuff. 257 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: There's going to be a cost to that as well. 258 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot that's going on here that is damaging 259 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: to our society, damaging to our ability to feel good 260 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: about who's in charge of this country at the state, local, 261 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: and at the national level. And can we trust the bureaucracy? 262 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: The answers, no, you cannot trust the bureaucracy, And they've 263 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: lied to us and they've been wrong, and now they're 264 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: getting more as their theories fall apart, and as the 265 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: data is increasingly not supportive of their positions, they're lying 266 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: to us, and then they're getting more aggressive, right so 267 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: we see that they've been wrong, and then they say, 268 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: oh no, we weren't wrong, and the models don't really 269 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: matter anymore. They keep shifting and changing. Meanwhile, people are 270 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: getting infected across the country. The economy is in free fall, 271 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: and they act like we've gotten we've done some huge 272 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: public service by locking down most of the United States. 273 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Europe is opening up. Are they a bunch of murderers? 274 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Are they a bunch of barbarians who don't care about 275 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: grandma dying? They're opening up? Sweden never really closed, but 276 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to start having people, 277 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, open up their flower stores and times and 278 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: time for Mother's Day, you know, clothing stores open up, 279 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: furniture stores, allow people to start going into offices providing 280 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: different services, you know. And I'm not saying don't wear 281 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: masks inside. I'm not saying don't wash your hands, and 282 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: we shouldn't protect the vulnerable. But what option are these 283 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: people that think that it's it's so brave and bold 284 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: to go on TV and say stay home, how long? 285 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: How much longer? What are we trying to achieve. Give 286 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: me the benchmarks about test and trace are absurd, they're insane. 287 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: But it's all ultimately about another thing. And you know 288 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: what it is. Who's going to get blamed. There's going 289 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: to be death from COVID nineteen for the rest of 290 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: this year. It's one percent guaranteed. So now the discussion 291 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: about reopening is really about who's going to get blamed 292 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: for those deaths, not about how we stop them. You're 293 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 294 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: Call these people warriors, and I'm actually calling now, as 295 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, John, the nation warriors. You have to be warriors. 296 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: We can't keep our country close down for years and 297 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: we have to do something. And hopefully that won't be 298 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the case, but it could very well be the case, 299 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: and you won't be lucked in a house. And some 300 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: people should stay if you're over a certain age. I mean, 301 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: you see that right elderly people or especially elderly people 302 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: with the problem where they have a problem. It attacks 303 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: these people viciously, and I think they will be staying back, 304 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: and we're strongly recommending that they do that. We're saying 305 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: over sixty, and especially over sixty if you have diabetes 306 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: or heart problems or whatever problem you might so, but 307 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: we have to get our country open again. And you 308 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: see it. Look, you cover it. People want to go back. 309 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a problem if you don't do it. 310 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: If you don't do it, you've got a very help. 311 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: We've got to go back. Trump is right. I hope 312 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: that he's learned from listening to people who do not 313 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: have not just the best interests of you know, the 314 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: White House, but the American people do not have the 315 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: best interest of the American people at heart. The left 316 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: views this all as an opportunity. Unfortunately, thanks for listening 317 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: to The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on 318 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: Apple podcast if the iHeart Radio app or wherever you 319 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: get your podcasts evicted at this time through no fault 320 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: of their own. You know, my grandfather used to say, 321 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: if you have your health, we can figure out anything else. 322 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: We can fix anything else. If it's about money, we 323 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: can we'll figure it out. But you have to have 324 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: your health. That's why public health versus the economy, I 325 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: don't see the trade off. Is it as easy as 326 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: we can just ensure that everybody has their health. There 327 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: are some very important. It's it's very important for us 328 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: to understand. It's very important. False notions at the heart 329 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: of the lockdown consensus. They can't say people from getting 330 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: this disease. They've said that, oh, we got to do 331 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: this because he'd say, oh, well, they're they're mitigating it. 332 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: It's meaning so few so far fewer people are getting this. 333 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: Really are fewer people getting it in places like New 334 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: York because a quarter of us have already been exposed 335 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: and have antibodies, and a lot of the most vulnerable people. Remember, 336 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: your vulnerability to the disease isn't just a question of 337 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: how badly your body reacts to it and how much 338 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: it overwhelms your immune system. It's also the initial infection. 339 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: So a lot of people who are particularly susceptible, clearly 340 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: in New York and some other major urban areas, have 341 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: already gotten the disease. So at some point, I mean, 342 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: we talk about her immunity and nobody ever really thinks 343 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: this through true. Herd immunity means there are so many 344 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: people with antibodies to the disease that there are not 345 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: enough vectors of spread that even those without antibodies are 346 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: at real risk of getting it, and for certain diseases, 347 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: for something like like measles, for example, which is hyper contagious. 348 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really understand the mechanism of why, 349 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: but measles. It's like, if you're this is why they've 350 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: even had these These people have done these parties for kids, 351 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: which I do not recommend. I don't have kids. I 352 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: don anything about this stuff. But they'll have a party 353 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: where one kid with measle shows up and all these 354 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: other kids and they all get measles, right, I mean, 355 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: this is what this is what ends. And it's like, 356 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: if you show up, you're you're pretty much getting measles. 357 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: The spread of the disease is much more difficult if 358 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: there are people who have immunity all around you. Even 359 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: if you don't have immunity, that's the basics of herd immunity. 360 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: And for some diseases it's it's more like eighty percent 361 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: four measles, I think it's over ninety ninety five percent 362 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: if you're going to have true heart. That's why the 363 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: lowering of And I'm not getting into vaccination debates, and 364 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: don't start sending me all that stuff. People I love you, 365 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: don't start sending me all your vac stuff. But that's 366 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: why when their vaccination level from measles drops down, there's 367 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: all that people get all concerned. Just from a herd 368 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: immunity standpoint. They're saying, you're you're creating greaters. And this 369 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: is why whooping cough and measles in recent years, they've 370 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: been outbreaks in places. Okay, and now we look at 371 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: what the lockdown consensus is promising us, which is that 372 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: they're able to protect our health. But are they really 373 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: we're doing exactly what they're telling us to do. We've 374 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: been doing it for two months. How protected are we? 375 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: How much has it really worked in New York? Or 376 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: had the virus already spread far and wide and the 377 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: most vulnerable And we can't protect nursing homes. We've been 378 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: talking about that. The authorities made, not just bet made 379 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: the absolute wrong decisions about how to protect our seniors 380 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: and nursing homes. So they keep taking this position of 381 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: the moral high ground like they're you know, if it 382 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: saves just one life, they'll protect every life. And then 383 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: we think about it, well, but you're not protecting every life, 384 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: not even close. We're losing a lot of lives and 385 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: suffering massive economic consequences and losing our constitutional rights, and honestly, 386 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: at some point, what is the purpose? Why are people 387 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: are going to start to say, why am I getting 388 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: up and doing this every day? And this is what 389 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: we're going to see? A spike and drug abuse and 390 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: suicide and overdose and all these things. We're still locked 391 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: at our homeless what forever? And I hate this stuff 392 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: when people say we're never return We're never returning to normal. 393 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: You know what, shut up if you're saying that we're 394 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: going to return to normal. All right, we had fifty 395 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: million people die from Spanish influence in nineteen eighteen. You know, 396 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen was followed by the Roaring twenties. We're going 397 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: to return to normal. I hope the cost is nowhere 398 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: near and I don't believe it will what it was 399 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen. But you know, if we can survive that, 400 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: we are going to get through this and return to 401 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: a place where people can gather and people can do things, 402 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe, just maybe there there'll be a 403 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: few benefits of this. You know, the silver linings of 404 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: it will be pretty substantial, like, for example, the lunacy 405 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: within the scientific community that they need to focus billions 406 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: and billions of dollars and have all these conferences about 407 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: climate change because by the IPCC projection, the inter Governmental 408 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Panel on Climate Change at the UN, by their projection, 409 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: we might be two degrees celsius warmer in one hundred years, 410 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: and that will destroy the planet. Let's worry about not 411 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: having a pandemic disease destroy modern civilization like now and 412 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: for the next ten years. How about that that would 413 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: be a better usage of time. You know that, you 414 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: who've been listening to the show, I've made this point 415 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: many times before. There are real this is people know 416 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: I've been bringing up antibiotic resistant bacteria and really frightening 417 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: stuff that's out there. I have mentioned pandemics way before 418 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: this actually happened as what I'm scared about or what 419 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: keeps me up at night, anybody with a passing familiar 420 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: And you know, how do I know that stuff. I'm 421 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: not a scientist history. I know more history than a 422 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: vast majority of scientists that I can tell you because 423 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: I love history and read it all the time. And 424 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: if you understand history, you know what the real risks are, 425 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: and you know what the real risks are not and 426 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the people that are claiming we're all going to run 427 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: out of food or that the world is going to 428 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: melt because of co Two. They've been wrong in the past, 429 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: there will be wrong in the future, and there are 430 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: reasons why they continue to allow their brains to make 431 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: these same errors and try to push all the rest 432 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: of us us into believing them as well. But back 433 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: to the governor here health, we should protect human life. 434 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't care if a person is old. You know, 435 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm old by your definition. I still think I have 436 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: a value. Right My mother's old, you know, she's the 437 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: most precious person to me. So protect every life and 438 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm not going to trade off public health, and We'll 439 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: figure out the dollars and we'll figure out the economic impact. 440 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: You know what Venezuela looks like. You see the news 441 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: footage of it. I'm sure sometimes Venezuela is a is 442 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: an impoverished socialist narco state and is run by narco traffickers. 443 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: This is what you know. We have all these people 444 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: who don't even understand how poor the country is. Because 445 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: the reason that Maduro and his thugs are even able 446 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: to feed themselves and pay the army and stay in 447 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: charge is because they're selling cocaine and heroin on the 448 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: global market. Yeah, that's right. You know you don't see 449 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot of that, and I do want to spend 450 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: some time. I want to deep dive into it. So 451 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: and Producer Mark remind me on this one, and maybe 452 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: we'll get one of our many spec ops friends to join. 453 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, it actually be great if we can have. 454 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll reach out to Jack Carr, whose book is 455 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: doing so well right now, Savage Son, which I'm listen. 456 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: I am listening to the audiobook of it, and it's 457 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: what I do when I'm doing chores and things like that. 458 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: When I say chores, that doesn't sound manly, right, is there, 459 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Proucer Mark? Is there a more manly word for chores 460 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: household tasks? There we go doing my household tasks, thank you. 461 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean it does sound a bit like I'm a butler. 462 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: Oh hello, I'm doing my household tasks. But it's better 463 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: than chores. Choice sounds like, oh, I'm just gonna go 464 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: do my chores now. But yeah, I listened to Savage Son. 465 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: It's it's excellent so far. I'm a few chapters in. Well, 466 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have him or we have so many people 467 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: from the spec OPS side who could talk to us 468 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: just about I mean, how how crazy it is that 469 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: this guy is. I've just seen the beginnings of it. 470 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to dig into more. I'm gonna talk to 471 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: some friends in the community too, to see what's going 472 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: on here by this guy who is SF who wanted 473 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: to have a coup, basically be a one man coup 474 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: against Maduro. I mean, I joke around with friends of 475 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: mine all the time that, you know, when I had 476 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: enough agency and spec Ops guys all drinking together, you know, hey, 477 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: you've got enough enough brain power and firepower here to 478 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: overthrow a small country. But we're kidding. It seems like 479 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: maybe this guy didn't think that that people were kidding 480 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: when they talk like that. So we'll we'll get into 481 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: that tomorrow. I think that's a fascinating situation. But but 482 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I bring up Venezuela because the way that Cuomo talks 483 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: about things, if you have your health, you have everything, well, 484 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to stay healthy when you 485 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: don't have an economy. It's really hard to stay healthy. 486 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: Think of all of the people out there right now 487 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: who don't have COVID nineteen but have serious health problems. 488 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: And what happens when they can't get routine medical care. 489 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: What happens when they have to wait for chemo, for surgeries, 490 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: for all kinds of heart procedures, which is happening all 491 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: over the country. What happens to your health when you 492 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: are told to stay indoors, not see your loved ones, 493 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: not enjoy life. Okay, watching Netflix and eating ice cream 494 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: is fun for a week or two, it has now 495 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: become sad. We don't want to do this anymore. Well, 496 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: we want to do it sometimes, but we don't want 497 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: to do it all the time, all right, which is 498 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: basically where we are right now. You cannot have a 499 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: healthy society if you do not have a functioning society. 500 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: Ask any prisoner. Take a look at anybody who's ever 501 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: been sent to federal prison. And I mean, it's a 502 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: stark reminder of really how brutal prison life really is 503 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: psychologically and physically. And I don't just mean because of 504 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: the possibility, the high probability of being assaulted and physically 505 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: abused inside a prison, which says a lot about our 506 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: state and instability to protect people that are in its custody. 507 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Conversation for another time, but if you find any if 508 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: you look at anybody who's gone into federal prison, they 509 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: look I mean, they usually lose a ton of weight, 510 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: their cheeks become sunken in, their eyes become lighter. I mean, 511 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: they just they look worn and defeated. We're doing this 512 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: to ourselves increasingly as a society. We're making people worn 513 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: out and defeated. Can't see your family, can't see your friends, 514 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: can't do your job, can't really go out. And let's 515 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: be honest about this. Going out with a mask outside 516 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: is better than nothing, but it's not great. It's not great. 517 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: I want to breathe fresh air. I don't want to 518 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: be sucking in some cotton mask made in China, thank 519 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: you very much. That's not what I that's not what 520 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I want. Oh, but it's fine, and you have to 521 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: do it to protect other people. You know. Cuomo is 522 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: representative of this mentality that we have control over this. 523 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: And this is where you get to a fundamental philosophical 524 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: distinction between the lockdown consensus and the Reopen the reopened movement. 525 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: The lockdown consensus suggests that if only we listen to them, 526 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: lives will be saved, and that's all that matters. The reopen. 527 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: The Reopened movement is saying lives are being lost. You 528 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: can't stop the spread of this disease, not even close. 529 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: And you're destroying everything around our society by doing this lockdown, 530 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: and you've changed what the initial mission is and you 531 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: won't give us an end date. When is enough enough? 532 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: And now we're hearing, oh by about the second the 533 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: second wave. Here's a little fact that if there's going 534 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: to be a second wave, because we start living life 535 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: normally again, there will be a second wave in June, 536 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: or in September or in January. It doesn't matter. It's 537 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: coming if what we're doing isn't enough, meaning if the 538 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: mitigation and if we're not able to get therapeutics and 539 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: get research going that would prevent a second wave. If 540 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: what we're doing isn't enough, it doesn't matter if we 541 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: open next week or next month. The second wave is coming, 542 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Now, I don't think it is. I don't 543 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: think it is. Remember this too, what happened to the 544 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Spanish flu. We didn't beat it, we didn't even understand. 545 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: This will give you a sense of how well this 546 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: is a whole other conversation. But we think that our 547 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: medical Our medical world is so advanced and so sophisticated, 548 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: and really, I mean you go back one hundred years, 549 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and our knowledge of medicine was primitive, and I mean 550 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: around the whole world, I mean, the smartest doctors, our 551 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: knowledge in nineteen twenty, nineteen eighteen primitive, we were. We 552 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: were at the basics the early phase of medical knowledge. 553 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: And yet the Spanish flu faded away. Now, how did 554 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: that happen? A lot of people got infected, a lot 555 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: of people had immunity, and then the human race just 556 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: moved on. We will get past this, It is a guarantee. 557 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: In the mean time. What we're trying to figure out 558 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: is what kind of countries and societies and lives will 559 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: we be able to lead now and after this thing passes. 560 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: And as I've been telling you, lock yourself up and 561 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: hide from all of this, for everybody, for some people 562 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: that have particularly high vulnerability, but also remember that the 563 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: people that have particularly high vulnerability, If we could focus 564 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: energy and protection measures on those who do feel they're 565 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: at higher risk, wouldn't we then be in a better 566 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: position to make sure that they're living fuller, better, longer, healthier, 567 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: happier lives. Right, if we did have procedures in place 568 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, if you're going to 569 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: go to a nursing home to visit your loved ones, 570 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: gosh darn it, you know that we're going to check 571 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: and make sure you're totally clear of the virus, and 572 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: that we have the best measures in place, and that 573 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: you can if you are going to go and see 574 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: your loved relatives there, you can do so without endangering them. 575 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: That kind of focus and those kinds of procedures would 576 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: make things better for everybody. But instead, what we have 577 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: is this slap dash approach of well, you know, we're 578 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: going to protect everybody, but we're going to send New York, 579 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: New York State, it's going to send people with COVID 580 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: nineteen back into the nursing facility and tell us all 581 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: that they care so much about protecting lives. Cost doesn't matter, 582 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Cost doesn't matter. Huh. Interesting for the State of New 583 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: York to say that, especially given that they were unwilling 584 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: to make additional to take additional precautions and procedures in 585 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: order to protect those who are most vulnerable from this. 586 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: The moral blackmail we all face on this question is 587 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: going to be massive. People don't want to admit that 588 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: they were wrong. They want to have that They have 589 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: this need to believe that the scientific consensus is accurate 590 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: and will protect them. And they also do want to 591 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: use this as the ultimate issue. This from a purely 592 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: political perspective, put aside all the human death and carnage 593 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: and the terrible stuff that's going on here. Just from 594 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: a purely political perspective, this is the biggest opportunity the 595 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Democrats could have possibly been given by circumstance, an economy 596 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: that is crashing and all this blame that they're trying 597 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: to put on Trump so they can put forward a 598 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: pathetic Cannian. Joe Biden's a pathetic candidate for the presidency. 599 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: We all know that. But they might get it. They 600 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: might get it done because of circumstance, and they're not 601 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: letting that go. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is 602 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Look his astory. There's nothing 603 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I can do to satisfy the media, the Democrats for 604 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the fakes. And I understand that we did the greatest 605 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: mobilization and history with the ventilators, and I don't think 606 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: there was a story. What a great job we did. 607 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Now we're helping Germany, and we're helping many other countries France, 608 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: Spain and in Italy by the way, and Nigeria sending 609 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty to Nigeria ventilators and too much 610 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: ago we didn't have any ventilators for ourselves. We were 611 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: the coverage were bare right, there were people have no idea. 612 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: There's not a thing I can do to satisfy the 613 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: fake news, and there's not a thing I can do 614 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: to satisfy democrats. It's true. Just look at the ventilator story. 615 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: And we were we were in a national mass panic 616 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: over our ventilator deficit. And now we're like the ventilator 617 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: superpower of the planet. In fact, we are the ventilator 618 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: superpower of a planet. You don't see a lot of 619 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: stories about that. To you, not much less interest. Trump 620 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: wasn't using the Defense Production Act. I saw so many 621 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: journals making that case. And then he did use the 622 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: Defense Production Act and we got plenty of and he 623 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: already had been negotiating with companies, and we got plenty 624 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: of ventilators. Now more than we need. We're giving him 625 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: other people. Oh but Trump didn't He doesn't act fast enough. 626 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: They say these people are full of it. Thanks for 627 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe 628 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you 629 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Are we going to see a fourth 630 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: simulist or do you think you're going to wait and 631 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: see how the first three are working? To people ask me, 632 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: I remind them that we have no money. We have 633 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: no rainy day account, we have no savings account. The 634 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: three trillion that we've already passed out is imaginary money. 635 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: It's being borrowed, basically from China. So the irony is 636 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: we got the virus from China, and now we're going 637 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: to be more dependent by borrowing more money from China. 638 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: The only thing that recovers our economy is opening the economy. 639 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: It's not a lack of money, it's a lack of commerce. 640 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: If you let people have commerce, if you let them trade, 641 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: if you take them out from forcible home arrest, our 642 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: economy will recover. But if you keep everybody out of 643 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: your home arrest and say you cannot practice your business, 644 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: you cannot sell your goods, they will continue to be 645 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: economic calamity. And all these blue state governors who don't 646 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: want to open their state delly are clamoring for federal 647 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: money to bear him out because no state revenues coming in, 648 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: don't have any money. What could be more straightforward than 649 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: what Rand Paul is saying? And yet it feels like 650 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: Rand Paul here is a breath of fresh air. You 651 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: know this. I've always thought that Senator Paul was a 652 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: guy who does does believe what he says. I mean, 653 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: he is a believer in the ideology of limited government 654 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: and and liberty. I'm wouldn't even call I wouldn't even 655 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: call libertarianism because Rand Paul is not really a classic 656 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: libertarian in some ways, but an ideology focused on liberty 657 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: and limited government. I think Rand Paul's a believer. I've 658 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: always had a, you know, not a personal soft spot 659 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: for the guy, but I feel like he's been because 660 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know him. I've only interviewed him 661 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: a couple of times, and in interviews, I'm gonna say 662 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: he's kind of like, well, you know, it's sound like 663 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm a little bored, and you know, he's not really that. 664 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't really love talking to the media. I get 665 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: the I think he likes TV. Don't think he really 666 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: loves doing radio. But he's he seems to me like 667 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: a principled politician. Now that doesn't that's not the same 668 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: thing as saying someone's perfectly principle. That just means that 669 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: for a politician. I think that rand Paul does stick 670 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: to stick to what he believes for the most part, 671 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: and that's impressive to me, or at least it's noteworthy 672 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: to me. But look, he's saying, we can't. There is 673 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: no restoring the economy without getting back some of the 674 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: reserves areaIn the economy without pulling back on these lockdowns. 675 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: There's no way we can do it. There's nothing that 676 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: we can do that will pull back the law that 677 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: will restore the economy unless we pull back the lockdowns. 678 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: And that then gets me to you know, I had 679 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: a very interesting exchange on Twitter, so it's public, so 680 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, you know, but betraying any kind 681 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: of confidence or anything. I mean, I never would, but 682 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: I had an instrink back and forth with somebody who 683 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: is a He is a guy who founded a very 684 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: large I believe it was a genetic research company. But 685 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: his name is Balaji Srinivazen. And I know about this guy, 686 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: or I think it's actually pronounced Balaji. We have a 687 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: mutual friend told me this guy is really smart, and 688 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a He doesn't believe 689 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: that we should have the country lockdown forever, and he 690 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: understands the pain that people are feeling right now. But 691 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: he's a pretty pro lockdown guy. And so we have 692 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: this exchange. I wanted to share with you about the 693 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: different you know when you deal with someone on this 694 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: issue who it seems is actually smart from the other side. 695 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: Here's kind of how this goes. You had Bethany Mandel, 696 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: who some of you know is a conservative conservative author 697 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: and writer, and she wrote the following, and this is 698 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: an exchange that all happened. I thought this is worth sharing. 699 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: In this, she wrote, you can call me a grandma killer. 700 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sacrificing my home, food on the table, all 701 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: of her docs and dentists, every form of pleasure, museums, zoos, restaurants, 702 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: all my kids teachers in order to make other people comfortable. 703 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: If you want to stay locked down, do I'm not. 704 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: And then sure, it doesn't mean it won't be done responsibly, 705 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: but I am just I am done. I feel lied 706 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: to about the terms of this lockdown, and I regret 707 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: ever trusting that it would be done responsibly. I think 708 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: she's right. I mean, I think that's a that's an 709 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: appropriate response to the lockdown response. I think that this 710 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: is well within where we should be given what we've 711 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: been put through as a country at this point. And 712 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: what they've said is now, this gentleman, mister Balaji Balaji 713 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: came forward and you know, look, this is where it's 714 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: so rare to find some on the other side. So 715 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: someone who's pro lockdown, who's who's smart and not a 716 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: shrill screaming you want to you want to kill Grandma maniac. 717 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: So this is why I wanted to share this with you, 718 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: because I keep giving you, I keep having people on 719 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: the show who are generally speaking with me and being 720 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: skeptical that the response was necessary of the national lockdown 721 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: at least, and that you know, there's no politics involved 722 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: in this with the anti Trump side, But here's how 723 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: the other side approaches it. Those who are trying to 724 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: at least engage, well do you agree with this or not? 725 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: At least they're trying to engage. I wish people ask 726 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: me often, why don't you have liberals on the show 727 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: disagree with you because it just escalates. And if you 728 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: have on radio people who all of a sudden are 729 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: shouting or trying to talk over each other, it's just bad. 730 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: It's bad. And also you know, it's you have limited 731 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: time and to have a debate format and radio, especially 732 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: if you're going to have the host, I mean, I 733 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: determine what the time is, right, I determine how much 734 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: people get to speak on this show. Like radio, the 735 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: host of a radio show is the king of the kingdom, 736 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and so to have somebody else on if you're going 737 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: to debate, um, this is why. Like one of the 738 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: one of the cheapest things is when you know they 739 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: love to some hosts love to do this. They'll take 740 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: a call from someone who's clearly you know, conservative, will 741 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: take a call from a host who's a guest rather 742 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: who's clearly an idiot and not actually up for the 743 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: debate of challenging them and just yell at them and 744 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: call them an idiot on TV. You know, this is 745 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit like, uh, the the conservative radio equivalent 746 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: of somebody who wants to watch those videos of like 747 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: the jackass guys back in the day, who would you 748 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: remember those guys Mark who would like light m eight 749 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: s in their underwear and do crazy stuff like that. 750 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: You know I'm talking about. Yeah, of course the jackass guys. Yeah, 751 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: the jackass guys. You know, yeah, I mean you kind 752 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: of watch it, but you know, you know it's really 753 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: not you know, and just having somebody on air anything 754 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: an idiot. You're an idiot, You're dumb, you know, yelling 755 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: at people and being it doesn't help anybody. It doesn't 756 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: help anybody, and it's cheap, it's cheap theater. So I 757 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: want this guy, Balaji. I mean, I can't get them 758 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: to join me on Well, actually you know what, I'll 759 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: ask if we'll join me on radio. I feel like 760 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: he'd say no, but I'll ask him if he'll join 761 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: me on radio. We'll see um. But he said, one 762 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: problem with this logic then this is in response to 763 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: bethany One problem with this logic is that the economy 764 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: is other people. So if older people stay home along 765 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: with millions of cautious people, plus many tourists and business travelers, 766 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: you don't actually get the economy back. Other countries have 767 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: contained the virus. It's doable. So he's saying, we need 768 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: to get to full on containment and then we end 769 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: the lockdowns. I think that that's almost impossible, and if 770 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: we wait that long, the economy will be dead. But 771 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: this is actually where the debate is among serious people. 772 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: So I responded to him, and I said, when people 773 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: see lots of folks who are low risk under fifty 774 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: going about their daily lives just fine, other people will 775 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: become less scared and economic activity will grow over time. Essentially, 776 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: let people who are at low risk and who are 777 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: willing to take that risk engage in more activity, and 778 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: not just economic activity, engage in more of day to 779 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: day life. Okay, Balaji wrote back to me, over fifties 780 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: are thirty percent of the population andicantly more of the 781 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: net worth. If you add in folks with pre existing conditions, 782 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: a big chunk of the US, white collar folks, foreign tourists, 783 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: that's a big chunk of the economy. I guess we'll see. Now, 784 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: see you notice that's that's a signal when you're in 785 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: this world of fighting. This guy's a blue check with 786 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: a with a pretty big following. You know, I'm a 787 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: blue check with a big following or pretty big following, 788 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: whatever reasonably considerable following on Twitter. And but when someone 789 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: says something like I guess we'll see. Oh oh, you 790 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: mean they actually want to have an exchange of ideas 791 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: because they know they don't know you're one of my 792 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: recurring mantras here on the show, my recurring theme. Some 793 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: of you may not like the mantra term, right, but 794 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 1: some of the recurring themes that we have are things 795 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: like no one can predict the future, and people who 796 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: tell you they can are lying to you. Thinking that 797 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: their analysis may be good about the future is one thing, 798 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: but if they tell you they can see the future, 799 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: they're lying to you. So the fact that he just said, 800 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. Man, Okay, Well, now here's someone 801 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: unlike the you want to kill grandma. You know, you 802 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: have so much that you want grandma to die. You know, 803 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: it's usually grandma too, not grandpa. I think that's a 804 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: very interesting but it's always you want grandma to diet. 805 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: It's become the line, which is a horrible and stupid 806 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: thing to say. I mean, I love my grandparents very much. 807 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: Unfortunately they've all passed along a long time ago. But 808 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: this is just when people are trying to shut others 809 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: down through a loud moral blackmail. So to his points though, 810 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: to his points here about how over fifties or thirty 811 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: percent of the population, that's a fair point, and that 812 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of wealth concentrated in the over fifties 813 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, but let's now, let's now look at 814 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: this for a second. If people are returning to work 815 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: who are at low risk and therefore exposing themselves, many 816 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: of them already have I mean, I think it's fifty fifty. 817 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: I have antibodies, And that's just a guess. I don't know. 818 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't I think it's fifty fifty. Given the situation 819 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: that I was in here in New York during the 820 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: maximum spread of the disease, a lot of people under 821 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: fifty already have antibodies. If they return to work, they 822 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: will be possibly exposed, but then they will get antibodies. 823 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get sick for week or two, and a 824 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: very very small percentage might end up in the hospital 825 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: and being really bad shape. But it's a very small percentage. 826 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: But that means more and more people, as we're in 827 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: the reopening, we'll have anybodies, which means that the vectors 828 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: we start getting to this herd immunity concept, the vectors 829 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: for the spread of the disease are fewer, and then 830 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: you have people who perhaps are in their fifties and 831 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe even going up in their sixties, who start to 832 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable because it's less likely that the younger 833 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: people that are already out there and working, it's less 834 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: likely that they'll be a high risk of contracting the 835 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: disease from them. And you see there's a snowball effect. 836 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: I would also point out that we already have essential 837 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: workers who are going out and doing their jobs. So 838 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: we've taken a segment of the economy and said, well, 839 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: that part of the economy is going to still go. 840 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: It's not like we're in a true lockdown, and there 841 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: are some risks to those essential workers and to people 842 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: that are coming into contact with them their family. This 843 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: is how we get to continue spread of this disease 844 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: even though we're all supposed to be on lockdown. But see, 845 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: my point is if we add low risk workers into 846 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: the mix here to the essential workers, we start we're 847 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: expanning the economy. We're returning and getting closer to normal. 848 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: And then he gave me a graph of the percentage 849 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: of age percentage, which was just a helpful data point, 850 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: and we clarified that. And then I said, as for 851 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: waiting until new infections are zero for reopen, which is 852 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: this is where I have a disagreement with mister Bology. 853 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: Sixty six percent of New York Hospel admissions, as we 854 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: talked about here earlier in the show, we're from people 855 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: locked away in their homes. The virus is still spreading, 856 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: and the virus is still going up in many places 857 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: across the country. So unless people believe that we're going 858 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: to go to an even more extreme lockdown phase than 859 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: what we're already in, which to me just sounds completely insane, 860 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: we're never going to get to full containment of the disease, 861 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: are our current projections a country this size, of this 862 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: many people we have to, you know, and unless we're 863 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna say there's no such thing as essential workers anymore. 864 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: No no one unless you work in a doc, unless 865 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: you work in a hospital and you're trying to treat 866 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: COVID patients, everyone just stay home, and we're just gonna, like, 867 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, live on the food you got in your 868 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: fridge for a week or two or a month. Now, 869 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people say, buck, I mean, people don't 870 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: have food. I know. That's why it's crazy. You can't 871 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: do this right. You can't actually completely freeze the economy 872 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: or people literally will go hungry and starve. So, uh, 873 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's why I that's what I gotta do. 874 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: And then I also said to him, docs, I've spoken 875 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: to say with velocity and scope of Oh no, I 876 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: asked him about your thoughts on test and trace and 877 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: he said docks. And I said, Docs, I've spoken to 878 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: with about the velocity and scope of existing spread and 879 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: deploying tracers across the country to hotspots, this is going 880 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: to be minimally helpful. I'm gonna be right on this one. 881 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: This test and trace theory, this is, this is absurd. 882 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: This is not gonna work. I mean, people that are 883 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: saying it's gonna work done what we're talking about. We 884 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: also have many empty testing facilities, I wrote, all over 885 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: the country already, and with asymptomatic spread, it seems unless 886 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: we're going to force everyone to get tested every two weeks, 887 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: the value of a national testing surge will be limited. 888 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: So you know, this is and and then we had 889 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: a nice I said, you know, thank you for your time. 890 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: He said, thank you for your time we had. We 891 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: had a kind of a nice close And so, you know, 892 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: this is if you really want to have a debate 893 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: with somebody about what's going on, this is where it is. 894 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: Can we get to the point where we fully control 895 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: this virus and there's almost no risk of going outside, 896 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: and can we do that without destroying the economy and 897 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: ruining our society? I say no. Some people say yes, 898 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: and they'll point to particularly other countries that they say 899 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: have controlled the virus very very well so far, Australia 900 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: being one of about Australia, remember where they're on the 901 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: flip of us see in terms of their seasons on 902 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: the flip side. I'm wondering how well they'll do this summer. 903 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: And also some countries have a much less dense population. 904 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: And you know, there's just certain things about America that 905 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: it's going to make it very hard to fully control 906 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: the disease. And we're losing you know, I haven't even 907 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: mentioned you yet because I got all fired up about this, 908 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: but we've got three point two million people who have 909 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: filed for unemployment for the first time last week. That 910 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: brings the total number of jobs lost during the coronavirus 911 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: crisis to thirty three point five million. We are heading 912 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: to forty maybe fifty million lost jobs from this. Now. 913 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: I saw this on the Wall Street Journal, I believe 914 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 1: was the Wall Street Journal. It was a poll that 915 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: said seventy seven percent of laid off workers think that 916 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 1: they will return to their old job after the stay 917 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: at home orders home. Well, you know that we're getting 918 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: close to eighty percent of people think they're just going 919 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: to take their own job. This is where I have 920 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: to say, I hope they're right. I am pretty confident 921 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: they're wrong. The costs that have been that have mounted 922 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: for these businesses, and also what the businesses will be 923 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: able to operate at even when the lockdowns end, it's 924 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: going to be a very meager income stream for a 925 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of businesses once they open their doors. This is 926 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: going to be a long, drawn out, phased in process 927 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: no matter what. And that's if they make the right 928 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: decisions and stop saying, oh the second wave and we're 929 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: all gonna die. And you know, if they take if 930 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: they take the right path here, it's still gonna be painful, 931 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: it's still gonna be difficult. So I don't think that 932 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: eighty percent or so of these of people who think this, 933 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they're correct. I think that they're gonna 934 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,959 Speaker 1: be a lot of lost jobs and jobs that aren't 935 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: coming back because they are industries that won't be able 936 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: to sustain even when they reopen, won't be able to 937 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: sustain the workforce that they once did. What do we 938 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: do with that? But for the forever lockdown crowd, we 939 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: are not South Korea, we are not Australia, we are 940 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: not Japan, and no one can even figure out what 941 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: they've done that we haven't done that would let us 942 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 1: even try to get to the level of virus control 943 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: that's so far they've had. I mean, people will say 944 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: test and trace, but that doesn't make any sense. Asymptomatic 945 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: spread is fifty percent of the disease. You're going to 946 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: test and trace three hundred and thirty million people. Think 947 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: about this, Think about the infrastructure and the resources and 948 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: the cost of even trying to do this. It's just 949 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: not even gonna Meanwhile, we're getting three hundred thousand infections 950 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: a day, you know, one tenth of one percent of 951 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: people are actually getting hospitalized, and we're dying from this, 952 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: which means you're getting every day, you know, every few 953 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: days a million more people who are gonna end up 954 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 1: with antibodies. Every few days, a million more people we're 955 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna end up with antibodies. I mean, it seems like 956 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: we're just heading toward a her community. We just won't 957 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 1: talk about it that way because we want to pretend 958 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: that we can just save lives across the board without 959 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: the economic costs. It's all very complicated. I mean, I'll 960 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: admit that it's all very tough. And as mister Balaji says, 961 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: we'll see you're in the freedom hunt. This is the 962 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast. All right, got some good 963 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: news to share with all of you. You know, we 964 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: talked about the story of Texas stylist Shelley Luther and 965 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: who said that feeding her children was not selfish and 966 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: that the people who worked for her who were going 967 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: hungry themselves so they could feed their children and they 968 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 1: wanted to go back and start styling people's hair again, 969 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: they were not being selfish by doing their jobs. Well, darnatt, 970 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 1: Texas is still Texas. It turns out, the Supreme Court 971 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: of Texas has decided to order the immediate release of 972 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: jailed Texas Salon owner Shelley Luthor. She was sent ince 973 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: to a week in prison by a judge who really 974 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: did not do himself any favors in the way that 975 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: that whole thing came out. And she now has a 976 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: gofund me page that has raised five hundred thousand dollars 977 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, still America, my friends, Still Texas for sure. 978 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: She is released. Now, she has been released from prison. 979 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: She's not going to spend seven days there. And these 980 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: judges in the Texas Supreme Court said that the punishment 981 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: was excessive and the jailing was unnecessary. This is off 982 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: from the local affiliate down in Dallas. No Texan quote 983 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: should face imprisonment for peacefully resisting an order that temporarily 984 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: closed a lawful business and drastically limited their ability to 985 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: provide for their family through no fault of their own. 986 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 1: God bless Texas. My friends doing the right thing, showing 987 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: the country how it's done here, and God bless these 988 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: judges for making the right call. That's what we like 989 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: to see. It does feel like America, after all, doesn't it. 990 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Busson Show podcast. Remember to 991 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you 992 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. All right, Team Bucks Special Treat today. 993 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: And I've been trying to get this guy on the 994 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: show for a while, but you know, he's got beautiful weather, 995 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: he's got to go out and serve sometimes. He's got 996 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: his own fantastic three hour radio show on a wonderful 997 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 1: station in San Diego that we now share KFMB, so, 998 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the best San Diego station that's out there, 999 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: and he's doing a great show. He's also on the 1000 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: First which is on Pluto TV, where you can all 1001 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: see me and you can see Jesse Kelly, you can 1002 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: see Mike Slater, the one only Mike Slater of the 1003 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: MIC's later show My Friend. Finally, I'm glad that our 1004 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: people were able to get through to your people. Yeah, right, 1005 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: like I have people. Welcome to my kitchen, Buck, Yeah, 1006 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: it's it's quite are I mean, it's funny because your 1007 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: kitchen is like twice the size of my New York apartment, 1008 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: which is yet again another reason another reason why I 1009 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: should be moving from New York City right away. Let's 1010 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: talk about Callie first. Go ahead, go ahead. I just 1011 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: say I think of you often. I'm not kidding because 1012 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: I think other than maybe like an Iowa meatpacking plant. 1013 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: You might be in the worst place in the country 1014 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: right now, literally not only New York City. But you're like, 1015 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: like I can see behind you. You're like in the 1016 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: densest part of New York City. What in the world, Like, 1017 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: can you go outside? Like what do you do? Right? 1018 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 1: I can walk my dog through Times Square in less 1019 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: than three minutes from where I am on foot. That's 1020 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: how close I am to the epicenter. And by the way, 1021 00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: Time Square that area was the biggest outbreak of any 1022 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: zip code in Manhattan of the Five boroughs was Time Square. 1023 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: So basically I mean I live next to like the 1024 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: most hot zone in Manhattan, although there's other bigger hot 1025 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: zones in the Five Boroughs. And yeah, it's the most 1026 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: densely packed part of the whole city. And during the 1027 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: maximum spread of the virus, I was on the subway 1028 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: because I do two radio shows, as I think you 1029 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: may know, I was on the subway four times a day, 1030 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: and it's one of the three most crowded subway lines. 1031 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: So to your question about whether I was at a 1032 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: high risk of acquiring this, it's like I was running 1033 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: an experiment saying, Hey, guys, I really want to get 1034 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. That's what I was doing accidentally. But you're 1035 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: out there in sunny You're out there in sunny California, 1036 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: so tell me this. You know, people have been Honestly, 1037 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been somewhat befuddled. Although I 1038 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: think you your weather, you're inherent social distancing of being 1039 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: in a car versus being a mass transportation And I 1040 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: would also say you're kind of generally healthier lifestyle. I 1041 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: know you guys have like pet therapists and do a 1042 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: lot of like yoga and the sun. But yoga and 1043 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: the son is good for you, and and it's certainly 1044 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: less likely to get COVID nineteen than you would being 1045 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: indoors on a crowded subway. So how is California doing 1046 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: right now? Gavin Newsom saying that they may actually open 1047 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: up stores what next week? Getting Fridays the plan? And 1048 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: now there's a whole drama there, because classic Gavin K. Newsom, 1049 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: classic politician, is just like, oh, I think yesterday or Tuesday. 1050 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna open up stores on Friday and 1051 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: we'll tell you which stores on Thursday. And it's like, well, geez, Gavin, Like, 1052 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: if you're a business owner, you don't. You can't just 1053 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: be like snabbed your fingers and open up twelve hours later. 1054 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: We need a little more advice. So we don't even 1055 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: know yet exactly what the details are on who's going 1056 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: to be allowed to open and whatnot. But I think 1057 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: San Diego in particular has done a really good job. 1058 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, our our healthcare capacity, we're like way under 1059 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: the healthcare capacity of line. People have done a good 1060 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,959 Speaker 1: job kind of staying put. But I also think people 1061 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: are ready to get back out there and get back 1062 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: out to the beach. Are your beaches open right now? 1063 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean I know that near you. What is it 1064 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: to Lahoya? Is that where one of the places where 1065 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: they have those really beautiful beaches? I mean, could if 1066 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: I were out there visiting Shay Slater, could I go? 1067 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: Could I go to the beaches of Lahoya? Or are 1068 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: they shut downs? I don't I don't even know if 1069 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton could afford a house on the beach. Definitely, 1070 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: not not even close. Dude. I live in a one 1071 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: bedroom man, are you kidding me? Producer Mark needs to 1072 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: get me a guest bed. He actually has a real home. 1073 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: Far away from the water. But yeah, no, you can go. 1074 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta move. You gotta be moving, you 1075 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,479 Speaker 1: can't sit down all that stuff. But what's encouraging is 1076 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: our sheriff's actually done a pretty good job, even though 1077 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: he's pretty question simble on a lot of things. And 1078 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: the Riverside County, which is just north the San Diego County, 1079 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: he just can't put out with a statement yesterday, I think, 1080 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: saying he's not going to turn Riverside County into a 1081 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: police state. He's not going to enforce you know, businesses 1082 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: who aren't doing their whatever they're supposed to do properly. 1083 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: He's going to trust the people to make the right 1084 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: decision and that has to be the proper posture moving forward. 1085 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: I know you've talked about the salon owner out in Dallas, 1086 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: Luther seven days in jail, Like, what are you lady 1087 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: talking about? You know, they've ordered her, they've ordered her released. 1088 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: They've ordered her released. Oh yes, thank good. I mean 1089 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: they just ordered ad Like, what is that? What is 1090 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: the point of that? What are we even trying to 1091 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: prove with moves like that. Luckily, our law enforcement here 1092 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: is doing a pretty good job. And Orange County so 1093 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: that was a couple of days ago Gavin Newsom ordered 1094 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: Orange County beaches closes closed. It's like like a punitive measure, 1095 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: like Orange County people, you didn't social distance enough, so 1096 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to order just your beaches closed. But again 1097 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: checks and balances, the local sheriff and Orange County said, listen, 1098 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to enforce that stuff. You can go 1099 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: on the beach if you want at different times, and 1100 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: they're not cracking down on it like Gavin Newsom would 1101 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: want at least, and that's good. People are being pretty sensible. 1102 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's also it's so much more 1103 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: American to have people in positions of authority on issues 1104 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: like this say hey, guys, well I'm gonna trust you 1105 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: all to be responsible and I don't really even have. 1106 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the legal authority for some of this stuff 1107 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: is questionable at best. But they're just saying, look, I mean, 1108 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: we're this is a public information campaign, not a demand 1109 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: at at gunpoint campaign to do everything they say, especially 1110 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: given how much this stuff has been shifting in recent 1111 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: recent weeks, where you know what's safe, what's not, Where 1112 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: the information is actually taking us, Uh, you know, Governor 1113 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: k Newsom. It sounds like he hasn't been I mean 1114 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Cuomo has now has has now gotten the buckster upset 1115 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: with a lot of stuff that he's done. I mean, 1116 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: he's made some horrific decisions, and notably the stuff on 1117 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: nursing homes is just I can't believe with the incompetence 1118 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: has Newsom. You know, I'm thinking that the Democrats are 1119 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to backfill somebody for Biden. And it's not 1120 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean in a VP sends. I mean they're 1121 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 1: gonna just say, oh, it's not gonna be Biden. We've 1122 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: been hearing this about Cuomo for a while. Newsome people 1123 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: also have been talking about a little bit is he 1124 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, is he coming out of this whole situation 1125 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: looking pretty good? Maybe because California just is inherently a 1126 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: better off state to handle this because of what I said, 1127 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, the weather and the things that you all about. Um, 1128 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: but Houn's Newsom doing? What's the report card? Well? Yes, so, 1129 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: first of all, Newsom slick, right, and he's appreciating but 1130 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: like he's the slick politician, younger kind of hip cool, 1131 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: people love him, the gentle pre pandemic like people fall 1132 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: for his thing. You know what I mean. He's got 1133 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: like a kind of slick stir is smooth like I 1134 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: would I would buy. I would buy a vehicle or 1135 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: a gently used kitchen appliance from him, no question. God's goodness, 1136 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: So it's worth for a long time. And listen, this 1137 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: is a conservative who has no love for Gavin Newsom. 1138 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: I think he's done a pretty good job. I'm giving 1139 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot of grace. The name of the game for 1140 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: me this whole time has been grace to everybody, the politicians, 1141 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: to your neighbor, to everyone, because no one, like you said, 1142 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: no one really knows what's going on. We're starting to 1143 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: get a little better handle, but there's still so many 1144 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: unknown So a lot of these politicians I can give 1145 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of grace to. But Gavin, there's some things 1146 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: done a pretty good job. Again, they're computatively shutting down 1147 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the beach. Maybe he's holding onto power a little longer 1148 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: than he should. I think he needs to loosen the 1149 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: reins a little bit. But it looks like he is 1150 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: as he talked about kind of opening up businesses. I 1151 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: think he's an okay job. Now. The one big thing 1152 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to start getting some answers for it. 1153 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Is he spent a billion dollars on masks from China, 1154 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and I know speed was important, so you've got to 1155 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of balance that out when you know everyone is 1156 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 1: in full panic vote. But now we're getting reports that 1157 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: mask across the country from China like aren't even close 1158 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: to the N ninety five standards. It's like like fifteen 1159 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: percent of what the actual standard is. So one day 1160 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: we're going to find out the quality of these masks 1161 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: that he bought for our billion dollars. And I'm sure 1162 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: there's I'm sure it's going to be like ten times 1163 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 1: the cost of what the masks normally are. But you know, 1164 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: he had to act fast and we'll see it. But 1165 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: that's like the one kind of big glaring thing that 1166 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has done maybe wrong. Look that's from a 1167 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: conservative point of view. That's a pretty pretty strong report card. 1168 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm seeing here, I think. So I'm seeing here the California. 1169 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, Los Angeles has what over eight thousand, Los 1170 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Angeles County has twenty eight thousand. I know you're in 1171 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: San Diego, but twenty eight thousand confirmed cases, about thirteen 1172 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: hundred deaths, California is a fraction overall. What is a 1173 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,439 Speaker 1: fifty four thousand confirmed cases for the whole state, and 1174 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: now that's confirmed cases with testing, right, that's not taking 1175 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: into account the urology extrapolation of how many people have 1176 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: antibodies to this. But you guys are at a fraction 1177 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: of the deaths that we have here in New York, 1178 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you have a larger population. It feels like California, you know, 1179 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: as much as the politics of it would dictate it 1180 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: opening much more slowly. It looks like you guys are 1181 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: coming out of this thing. Okay, am I missing something? Now? 1182 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild And what's frustrating in the name of 1183 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: unknowns is we may never know why. We did a 1184 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: segment a while back about super spreaders and how a 1185 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: city can do all the things right, but one super spreader, 1186 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I think in South Korea he was known as case 1187 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: thirty one or thirty three or something. That one super 1188 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: spreader can like sneeze on a door knob and all 1189 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: these people get it and it spreads like crazy, and 1190 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: people are gonna look at all different areas in the 1191 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: country and around the world, and they're gonna try to 1192 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: come up with reasons they're like, oh, you know, the 1193 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Italian's kiss on the cheeks, right, or this country doesn't 1194 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: have good healthcare, or people are gonna try to find 1195 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: like race angles or socioeconomic angles or whatever. People are 1196 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: always gonna try to explain it. And honestly, it's especially 1197 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: because it could just be New York. I mean New 1198 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: York super dead, so that's kind of like something. But 1199 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: people be like, oh, there was just a couple of 1200 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 1: super spreaders and it just spread it way more, and 1201 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 1: there's really no answer. It just kind of happened that way. Well, 1202 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, they be calipointed. There weren't a lot of 1203 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: super spreaders. New York is in a sense thus super 1204 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: spreader because the evidence that they're they're point of view 1205 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: today on the front pages of a bunch of newspapers 1206 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: is that New York cases we essentially created this. You know, 1207 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the Petri dish of New York was overflowing, and then 1208 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,439 Speaker 1: travel from New York once it had spread all over 1209 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: here to the rest of the country. See did outbreaks 1210 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: in Louisiana like for Marty Graf for example, seated outbreaks 1211 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: in Florida, in Michigan, in places all across the country, 1212 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: so one place, you know, you're talking about it on 1213 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: an individual level where one human being could end up 1214 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: being responsible for it. And then there was a I 1215 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: think there was also a case in South Korea somebody 1216 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: who went to a went to a church. Is that 1217 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: is that the same? And then this might be a 1218 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: different one went to a church and like one hundred 1219 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: people in the church ended up getting infected somehow for whatever. Yeah, 1220 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, so can you make like, so what kind 1221 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: of grand conclusions can you make about that area in 1222 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: South Korea about there's sozio economic levels or culture or whatever, 1223 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: when it was just like someone who went to church 1224 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and sneezed a couple of times. What do you think? 1225 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: What do you think is though it's hard to make 1226 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: conclusive state, what do you think of Governor Pritzker of 1227 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Illinois saying, yeah, no church until there's a vaccine. I 1228 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: think people were like, what you know, settle down, settle down, 1229 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Chubby Beelzebub, like, what are you doing. There's a couple 1230 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: power trips out there that we're seeing, right, So the 1231 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: the Harvard judge from in Texas that we were just 1232 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: talking about, like, that's a power trip. Move man to 1233 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: put that guy for seven seven days. Put that one. 1234 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: There's another power trip move right, Like, if other businesses 1235 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: can have people keep their distance, then why couldn't a 1236 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: church also people keep their distance. That makes no sense. 1237 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Why single out churches? I don't get that. I think 1238 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: that there's a hostility among people who love power of 1239 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the state to the You know, they always talk about 1240 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: separation of church and state when they want to bash 1241 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: the church, and now all of a sudden, when the 1242 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: state has taken on all this power for itself, churches 1243 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 1: are the the whatever whatever essential is. Churches are the 1244 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: opposite of essential to these people. Yeah, wow, that's interesting. Okay, 1245 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: so this is good. We need to keep them keep 1246 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: an eye off for the cincinnatiss So who are the 1247 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: cincinnatis is out there? Who are going to are you 1248 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: refer to the Roman general who is out Is this 1249 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: a Roman general called out of retirement to save the republic? Thing? 1250 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what we're going That's what I'm 1251 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: talking about looking at you. One of his story, as 1252 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, is he gave the power back, right, So 1253 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: who are the governors who are going to give this 1254 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: power back once they've had a blood lust taste for it? 1255 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: In a way that they haven't had in their career. Certainly, 1256 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: will they give it back to the bloke I think 1257 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: you talked about it was like, no, he's not. And 1258 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: let me just reminder we're talking to Mike Slater, who 1259 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: is the host of the Mike Slater Show KFMB, the 1260 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: greatest radio station in San Diego in San Diego County, 1261 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: which I'm also on. So the two of us are 1262 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 1: on it, which clearly makes it the best radio station anywhere. 1263 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: By the way, like we just for people who don't know, 1264 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: I have been riding your coattails for like ten years now. 1265 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I think I think everywhere you go, I end up 1266 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: following you. So I appreciate it. Well, I was going 1267 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: to tell you, I mean, now I'm jumping to the head. 1268 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we hit the first on Pluto TV. 1269 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: I have managed to put together you have like two 1270 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: of the nicest, funniest, best people on radio with Jesse 1271 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Kelly and Mike Slater. And you know, I'm just like, 1272 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: everybody should be watching this. Everybody should listen to this lineup. 1273 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean legitimate For those of you you don't know, listen 1274 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: to my show. Mike Slater is one of the nicest 1275 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: pa it has been since he started the blaze. He's 1276 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: actually so nice. Did At first I was like, is 1277 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: he really this nice? Turns out he actually is. He's 1278 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: that good of a guy. Yeah. I'm throwing it out 1279 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: and thrown it all your right now, are you handling 1280 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: it up about that buddy? Nicest guy on radio, very talented, 1281 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: great show, the Mike's Later Show. You should all be 1282 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: checking out of listening. Here's a podcast too. You can 1283 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 1: listen to Mike's Later podcast. Let me ask you this, 1284 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: when when do you think are we breaking the damn here? 1285 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Are we breaking the damn in in the reopen nationally? 1286 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Or is this going to be a grind it out 1287 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: state by state, phase up, phase down fight? What are 1288 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: you seeing? Okay, Yeah, here's here's what I think. Who 1289 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: knows right? I've always thought, always thought the last week 1290 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: or so that it is going to be kind of 1291 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 1: like a bell curve and people are going to be 1292 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 1: able to make up their own minds and people are 1293 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: going to go into their own categories. How much time 1294 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: do we have? Do I have two minutes to explain us? 1295 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 1: About a minute? He got a minute? I can only 1296 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: give you a minute because we got a station break 1297 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: go ahead. So in technology adaption people, there are people 1298 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 1: who by the first iPhone as soon as it comes out, 1299 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,680 Speaker 1: and then there's a certain percentage people who can't wait 1300 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: a little while. And then there's a certain percentage people 1301 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 1: who wait until they really need one. And then there's 1302 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: a certain percentage people who don't buy an iPhone until 1303 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: there's no more flip phones. And it's a bell curve 1304 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: early adopters who can google that a little more. I 1305 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: think that's the same thing here. I think a very 1306 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: small percentage of people want to go out to concerts 1307 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: now a little bit more. People are like, I'm gonna 1308 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: wait a week or so, and then you have me 1309 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: who's like, I'm gonna kind of la wait like a month. 1310 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: I got a two month old here. I don't want 1311 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: to push anything. I don't wait like a month. And 1312 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: then there's some people who write play are like, I'm 1313 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: not really gonna go anywhere for a while because I 1314 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: have health issues or I'm older or whatever. So I 1315 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: think it's like a natural bell curve distribution of when 1316 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 1: people are going to go, and people are going to 1317 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: make up their own lines based off the information we 1318 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: have We don't need gavinue From or any governor telling 1319 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: you you are allowed, you're not allowed, you can you can't. 1320 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: I think people are all adults and wise enough to 1321 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 1: do that by themselves. If I come out to San 1322 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Diego so we can hang out with the fine people 1323 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 1: in the audience of KFMB, can you also teach me 1324 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 1: to surf. I'm not the best serve, but I can 1325 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 1: definitely treat you to a green smoothie. Maybe that's the 1326 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: California kale smoothie. Is what's keeping us healthy out here. 1327 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. All right, I'll take it. Mike's Later 1328 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 1: Everybody check out the Mikes Later show. Good, They're very overrated. Yeah, 1329 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: Mike Slater's show. He's on What time Eastern time? Are 1330 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you on KFMB one neon to three pacifics so three 1331 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to six Eastern time, three to six Eastern time. Check 1332 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: him out and mister Slader, great to talk to you, sir. 1333 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: You stay safe out there. God bless you and yours. 1334 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Remember I appreciate him. You're in the 1335 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Man, 1336 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: it was great to talk to Mike Slater. Although I 1337 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 1: gotta say producer Mark, I thought I thought he was 1338 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 1: gonna be like, dude, I've been surfing like he he 1339 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: seems like he could be in Point Break with Keanna Reeves. 1340 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,879 Speaker 1: But he's actually not a surfer. I mean not everyone 1341 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: who lives in San Diego surfs. You know that, right, 1342 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,719 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, But he is what I said before, 1343 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 1: I really mean that. I want to reiterate it. He's 1344 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 1: one of the nicest, best dudes in the radio business, 1345 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: which is full of a lot of not nice people 1346 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: who you know who are who are terrible. Actually, Mike's 1347 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Later and Jesse Kelly are like two guys that you'd 1348 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 1: want to be friends with and you'd want as neighbors, 1349 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: you'd want them coaching your kids little league team or 1350 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: football team. They're they're just great dudes, and so it's 1351 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: it's an honor, honestly to be with them on Pluto 1352 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: TV the first along with along with Data Lash, who 1353 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: was a longtime friend and colleague, was fantastic. So anyway, 1354 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,679 Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out that content, please do, meaning 1355 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Pluto TV the first with Slater and also you can 1356 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 1: listen to The Slater Show. And I want to thank 1357 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 1: to find people San Diego. For listening to this show 1358 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: on KFMB, You guys are great. We are so honored producer. 1359 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: Even producer Mark was excited when we picked up San Diego. 1360 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: That says a lot. Thanks for listening to The Bus 1361 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the 1362 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. One thing 1363 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,959 Speaker 1: I like to point out is the number of criminal 1364 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: cases and investigations brought against Republicans that quite clearly would 1365 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: never have been brought against Democrats. Off the top of 1366 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: my head, you've probably heard me say this before, but 1367 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: you can think of Scott Walker in Wisconsin and the 1368 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: efforts to use the John Doe laws of that state 1369 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: to silence and destroy people around him to take down 1370 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: Scott Walker, who upset the public sector unions and the 1371 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Democrat apparatus of Wisconsin. No charges agains. Scott Walker didn't 1372 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: do anything wrong, but they were abusing There were prosecutors 1373 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 1: there as state prosecutors abusing their authority to go after him. 1374 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,799 Speaker 1: Rick Perry in Texas, there was an effort to criminally 1375 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: investigate Rick Perry for abusive authority because he was going 1376 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 1: to withhold funds from a prosecutor who would not step down, 1377 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: who had been arrested herself for drunk driving, but they 1378 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: wanted to prosecute that as a felony misuse of his 1379 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 1: official position, and they had to drop back because it 1380 01:12:53,320 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: was so stupid. Governor Bob McDonald, who state authorities had 1381 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: no interest in going after, but federal prosecutors, no surprise there, 1382 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 1: went after him on the theory that even though he 1383 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 1: had received or had given no benefit of his public office, 1384 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 1: because he had hung out with a rich business man 1385 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: who had given him and his wife some gifts, literally 1386 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: just hung out with him, had him at parties there 1387 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 1: at the governor's mansion, he should face eleven years in 1388 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: federal prison, and his wife should also, who had no 1389 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: elected office whatsoever, she should also go to prison. Federal 1390 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: prosecutors a lacomie, if you will, the way that they 1391 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 1: do things. You know, that's can you think of any similarities? Oh, 1392 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: and then Donald Trump and the Russia collusion, I mean, 1393 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 1: of course that's the biggest one of all. Right, that's 1394 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: like the the mounts Olympus of all abuse of prosecutorial 1395 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 1: authority cases for political political means. But you will also 1396 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: remember the Chris Christie case. The Chris Christie case. This was, oh, 1397 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 1: this was reported on endlessly, endlessly by Democrat media as 1398 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 1: a major, a major story, I mean, a fascinating tale 1399 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 1: of abuse of power. And you even had Laurence O'Donnell, 1400 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the blowhard host of The Last Word on MSNBC, say 1401 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 1: that a because a ninety one year old woman was 1402 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: delayed medical treatment because of the traffic jam that high 1403 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: level staffers, Chris Christie staffers caused. That it was the 1404 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 1: quote the Willie Horton moment of Chris Christie's presidential Campaignever, 1405 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Chris Christie was running for president at the time, and 1406 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: O'Donnell said, quote, I haven't been able to get the 1407 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: name of the ninety one year old woman who was 1408 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: delayed medical treatment that day because the traffic jam had 1409 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 1: eventually died, and we don't know whether she died because 1410 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of a delay and treatment. But in politics, that's not 1411 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: the way they played this game. So he didn't even know. 1412 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 1: He didn't even know. If you know, this woman could 1413 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 1: have been dead when they picked her up and took 1414 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 1: her in the ambulance. That can happen. She could have 1415 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: been done on a Bible. She could have had a condition. 1416 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: There was nothing they could do. And you know, he's 1417 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: ninety one years old. He doesn't know. All he knows, though, 1418 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: is that this is the end of Chris Christy's presidential 1419 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: campaign because of a traffic jam that was caused by 1420 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: some of his aids. And this was report. MSNBC really 1421 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: leaned into this one. They treated this like it was 1422 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: a fascinating political tale, and Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI 1423 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:31,799 Speaker 1: were sent to federal prison for this for causing this 1424 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 1: traffic jam. Now, producer Mark lives in New Jersey. Producer 1425 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Mark our traffic jams near the Lincoln Tunnel or the 1426 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 1: George Washington Bridge a rarity. They're almost always happening right now. No, 1427 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 1: but in a normal situation, there is almost always traffic 1428 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: in both of those tunnel bridge no matter what. Yes, 1429 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 1: pre pandemic. Anybody who knows the George Washington Bridge or 1430 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 1: the Lincoln Tunnel to get from New Jersey into Manhattan 1431 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 1: would tell you the moment that you start getting close, 1432 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 1: you kind of hold your breath. You're like, please don't 1433 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: have this speech there, because you can. This has happened 1434 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to me a lot when I used to drive in 1435 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 1: from Washington, DC to come visit my family in New York. 1436 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: You can make great time for four hours and you know, oh, 1437 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: I made it from DC to New York. And you 1438 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: get within sight. You can see Manhattan, you can see it, 1439 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 1: it's right there. But you get stuck at that Lincoln 1440 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: Tunnel and my, oh, you can sit there for forty 1441 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 1: five minutes an hour like it's nothing, like, it's nothing, 1442 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: just sitting there, same thing that George Washington Bridge. Right, 1443 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 1: you can sit there all day. Man, there's nothing you 1444 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 1: can do about it. Now. The theory here was that 1445 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 1: these two aids to Chris Christie Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI, 1446 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: they created this traffic jam. They were guilty of federal crimes. 1447 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 1: They got sent to prison for a federal fraud and 1448 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 1: federal wire fraud. You know what. The wire fraud was 1449 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: writing emails to each each other to create This is 1450 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: when the federal government they can use all these statutes 1451 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 1: to just hammer you. But writing these emails constituted a 1452 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 1: use of wire fraud. And yeah, that's what they did. 1453 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 1: That's what they did. They charge them with Federal crown 1454 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: sent them to prison. Well, guess what the Supreme Court 1455 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: has thrown out the Bridgegate convictions and Justice Elena Kagan, 1456 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,600 Speaker 1: who I will say, Elena Kagan is a liberal. She 1457 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,879 Speaker 1: is a liberal, and she's on the Supreme Court. Elena 1458 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: Kagan is a smart lawyer. Elena Kagan is smart. I see, 1459 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,959 Speaker 1: I admit what's true justice so to Mayor, for example, 1460 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 1: is a third tier lawyer and is just not at 1461 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: the level of understanding and comprehension of the law to 1462 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: be on the Supreme Court. Both liberals, but one of 1463 01:17:53,920 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: them very smart lawyer. The other one. Now, Kagan here 1464 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 1: wrote that not every corrupt and now I believe it was. Yeah, 1465 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 1: it was a unanimous ruling. It was a unanimous ruling. 1466 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 1: So I will give credit to every answer to everyone 1467 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: on the court that they made the right call, which 1468 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 1: this is. But it's also of course it's a unanimous ruling. 1469 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Federal wire fraud for writing an email to start a 1470 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: traffic jam, Now this is this is the kind of 1471 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,759 Speaker 1: act that, yes, people should be held it's a stupid 1472 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 1: thing to do. People should be held accountable. But this 1473 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 1: is something you get fired for. This isn't something you 1474 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 1: go to federal prison for. Starting to think of all 1475 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 1: the people that you know, during protests will stand in 1476 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: the street and block traffic. You know, yeah, should they 1477 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: maybe be arrested in process because they're actively personally blocking traffic? Sure? 1478 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,599 Speaker 1: Do you send them a prison for four years? I mean, 1479 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 1: actually I kind of think sometimes we should. But still 1480 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: federal crime, that's what they're saying. And here's here's what 1481 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: the Selanna Kagan writing for this in this unanimous ruling. 1482 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Here's how she put it. Quote not every corrupt act 1483 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: by state or local officials is a federal crime. Because 1484 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: the scheme here did not aim to obtain money or property, 1485 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,440 Speaker 1: BARRONI and Kelly could not have violated the federal program 1486 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: fraud or wire fraud laws. End quote think of how 1487 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: and look, you know, give credit and the libs on 1488 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: the court even so am I or all right, I'm 1489 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna minute. He's not a good lawyer, but you know 1490 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: they did the right thing. Even Ginsburg I think I 1491 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:39,000 Speaker 1: had to call in for the oral arguments recently. Um 1492 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: there was this Babylon VP's about how they're trying to 1493 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: lock Ginsburg in Um not carp is it? Well, what's 1494 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the thing that they put in Star Wars? They put you? 1495 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Is it carbonite. You're not a Star Wars guy, No, 1496 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,480 Speaker 1: sporing to me. Wow, and you still haven't watched the Mandalorian, 1497 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: have you? I have not. But producer Nick is telling 1498 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: us it is carbonite. Producer Nick, He's he's a he's 1499 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 1: a Star Wars buff. I know, yeah, carbonite. They're trying 1500 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: to lock. The joke and the Babylon Bee is they're 1501 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna lock Ginsburg and Carbonite because and anything to make 1502 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 1: sure that she's okay, you know, she's still on the 1503 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, especially, I mean, if Trump wins reelection, They're 1504 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 1: they're not gonna I mean, I don't even know what 1505 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna do, but you're gonna see Ginsburg show up 1506 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: and this she'll be like the first, you know, cyborg 1507 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 1: that's ever been created. They're gonna whatever implants they have 1508 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: to put in the you know, the technology twenty first 1509 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 1: century sci fi stuff. Whatever they gotta do, they're gonna do. 1510 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 1: That's how much they value having a Supreme Court as 1511 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: a super legislature for the left. But but let's go 1512 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 1: back here to the moment to the throw out here, 1513 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and they mentioned the Governor Bob McDonald conviction, which was 1514 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,640 Speaker 1: also thrown out by the Supreme Court. These are Republicans. 1515 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 1: You think that's an accident. These are either Republican operatives 1516 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: or Republican polity titians who are over zealously prosecuted by 1517 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the Feds. Oh, you mean the deep state has been 1518 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: around for a long time. You mean the deep state 1519 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 1: isn't just some new thing against Trump. Mmmm. That's right. 1520 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: If you're a lib if you're a Democrat, you get 1521 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 1: to you get to exist under a different set of rules. 1522 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 1: That's just That's just the way it is. That's what 1523 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 1: we see happening time and again. But this is the 1524 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 1: right move. How can you how can you be guilty 1525 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 1: of fraud and wire fraud for just doing, you know, 1526 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 1: doing something within your power? It is, it was within 1527 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: their powers to do this. They said that they called 1528 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 1: it a traffic study or something, but it was essentially 1529 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 1: a really dumb prank. And by the way, I don't 1530 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: think it's a funny one. I think traffic is not funny. 1531 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really frustrating. And I think, you know, 1532 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to know what producer Mark would do 1533 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: if you put them in traffic for two hours because 1534 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 1: of a prank and then you handed him a baseball 1535 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 1: bat and said, those are the people responsible. You don't 1536 01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: want to what you know, it would not be pretty. 1537 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 1: It would not be pretty. He's gonnamit. It would not 1538 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: be pretty. So I understand, right, I understand. It's very frustrating, 1539 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, they should be fired. They should be fired, 1540 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 1: and their reputation should be damaged. Federal prison. Where what's 1541 01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: the fraud being a moron? If being a moron is 1542 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,960 Speaker 1: a federal fraud and writing in an email about your 1543 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 1: being a moron is a federal wire fraud, we better 1544 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: really start locking up some politicians all over the place. 1545 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 1: This was absurd. The fact that federal prosecutors took it 1546 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: to this extent, the fact that that a judge allowed 1547 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 1: this to happen in the first case, a unanimous, a 1548 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 1: unanimous overthrow of this from a Supreme court just goes 1549 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 1: to show you, folks, there are a lot of political 1550 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 1: hacks and activists wearing robes and prosecutors all. You know, judges, 1551 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 1: robes and prosecutors are not like a normal robe. Hey, 1552 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 1: check out, not like that. I'm not a rope guy. 1553 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 1: By the way, I go to a hotel and I'll 1554 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,600 Speaker 1: put on the robe. Just because I feel like you 1555 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 1: got to if you're really getting in the whole tell vibe. 1556 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not a robe guy, never half been. Um, 1557 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 1: where was I? I just got confused for a second. Yeah, 1558 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 1: so they had to. Uh. I was thinking about a 1559 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 1: time when you could actually go to like spas in 1560 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 1: these places and you could live normal life and wear 1561 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: a robe. And you can't do that anymore. So a 1562 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: win for justice here. You know, these people, their reputations 1563 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 1: are ruined, their lives are forever, forever marred by this. 1564 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: But there shouldn't be in federal prison and even all 1565 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: the lives in the Supreme Court degree. But remember my 1566 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: initial premise here, where are the Democrats who are unfairly, 1567 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: unfairly distrodered. The only one that can come to mind, 1568 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 1: maybe for some of you, is Blogoyevich, who is clearly 1569 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of a corrupt guy, but who who has come 1570 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: to Blogoevic's defense for overreach of the government Trump and Republicans. 1571 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 1: It's not Democrats that are saying, yeah, you know, Bligoievic 1572 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 1: wasn't really that bad. You got a raw deal. They 1573 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,839 Speaker 1: like the same people who want to control every aspect 1574 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,599 Speaker 1: of your life now under the pandemic. The same people 1575 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: who want to tell you, you know what you could 1576 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 1: eat and you have to recycle and no plastic bags 1577 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 1: being used and all this stuff. Those same people like 1578 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: that the state, the big s state, is able to 1579 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 1: crush anyone they want, using the courts and using the 1580 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: prosecutors weapons. That's not the country I want to live in. 1581 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 1: If you're going to go to prison, whatever you did 1582 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 1: should be able to be in one sentence. It should 1583 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: be clear what you did, why it's bad, and why 1584 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,879 Speaker 1: you need to have your freedom taken away. It shouldn't 1585 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,679 Speaker 1: be some combat. It shouldn't be like the Logan Act, 1586 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: for example, which they went after Flynn on right. It 1587 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be some bullcrap that we all know is ridiculous. 1588 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 1: Say you haven't bridge Gate slapped it down. You're in 1589 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 1590 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: We have a huge crisis here. We haven't had as 1591 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: many people unemployed since the Great Depression. Stores, businesses are 1592 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 1: closing all the time, More people are being laid off, 1593 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 1: people are being have trouble in every way economically. We 1594 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: need big, bold action and Speaker Pelosi and I are 1595 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 1: working very closely together on putting together a very strong 1596 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: plan which you will hear shortly. The people like McConnell 1597 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 1: and McCarthy and even Trump who say let's wait and 1598 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: do nothing, well, they remind me of the old Herbert Hoovers. 1599 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 1: We had the Great Depression. Hoover said just let's wait 1600 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,799 Speaker 1: it out. It got worse and worse. We need Franklin 1601 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Rooseveltian type action, and we hope to take that in 1602 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 1: the House and Senate in a very big and bold way. 1603 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 1: The progressive transformation now they will try because of the 1604 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,600 Speaker 1: crisis we are going through is inevitable. Right, this is 1605 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 1: what the fight is going to become. We have the 1606 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 1: reopening fight, but we also have the what does the 1607 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: government do as we're trying because the reopen is not 1608 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 1: going to be easy, it's not to be clean, it's 1609 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 1: not going to be fast. So how much of a 1610 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,719 Speaker 1: role does the federal government take in this whole process. 1611 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: That'll be interesting. We'll have to see how much of 1612 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: a role does the federal government have to prop all 1613 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 1: of this up and make sure that industries that are 1614 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,680 Speaker 1: battered by all of this, that entire sectors of our 1615 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 1: economy that are their own life support, they're not going 1616 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,719 Speaker 1: to come out of life support, so to speak, hopping 1617 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: around doing backflips and everything's gonna be fine. They're gonna 1618 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: be limping. These sectors are going to be barely able 1619 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:35,519 Speaker 1: to move even once they're able to start some business again, 1620 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 1: they're able to re engage in commerce. But the Great 1621 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Depression was exacerbated and elongated by the New Deal and 1622 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 1: by FDR. It lives always fight on this, They say 1623 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 1: it's not true. There have been exhaustive studies of it. 1624 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: If you know, maybe this is something. There's actually one 1625 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: author in particular I'm thinking of that I'll reach out 1626 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:57,680 Speaker 1: to on this and see if she'll come on and 1627 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: just make the case, because people need to understand that 1628 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 1: this the the New Deal made things in the Great 1629 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Depression works. It did not actually take us out of 1630 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 1: the Great Depression. So I know it's history, but the 1631 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: history is going to be informing policy right now. And 1632 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: that's why they're saying, well, you know, we need FDR 1633 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: type action, not the internment of people into camps. Well, 1634 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Democrats will agree with that, right. Their 1635 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: hero FDR just kind of always gets a pass on 1636 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 1: that one. I also remember that he's still a hero 1637 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: to Democrats. And as we're in this era right now 1638 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 1: of more government control, more government power than we've ever 1639 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,519 Speaker 1: seen before, how unthinkable is it really that they would 1640 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: try to force people, force people off of their land 1641 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: and start telling people under the quarantine rhetoric, right, under 1642 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,759 Speaker 1: the quarantine rhetoric, you have to stay in this place 1643 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: that we tell you have to stay in. We're not 1644 01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: there yet, but I didn't think we'd be where we 1645 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: are right now. And that was even a month or 1646 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: two ago where people are saying, yeah, we'll just stay 1647 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,600 Speaker 1: in lockdown forever. One more thing, My buddy Kelly mckinetti 1648 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: had a great response. You know, she's now White House 1649 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 1: Press Secretary's doing a great job, and she had a 1650 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 1: response to an assault, a verbal assault of course from 1651 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 1: one of the reporters, just trying to undermine her early 1652 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 1: on in the job, make her look foolish. And this 1653 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: one was this was a fun This was a fun one. 1654 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: Play ten. Yeah, previous life, before you were Press secretary, 1655 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,759 Speaker 1: you worked for the campaign and you made a comment, 1656 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 1: I believe on Fox in which you said President Trump 1657 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: will not allow the coronavirus to come to this country. 1658 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: Given what has happened since then, obviously, would you like 1659 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: to take that back? Well, first, let me note I 1660 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:50,800 Speaker 1: was asked a question on Fox Business about presidents travel restrictions. 1661 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: I noted what was the intent behind those travel restrictions, 1662 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: which is, we will not see the coronavirus come here, 1663 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: we will not see terrorism come here, referring to an 1664 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: earlier set of travel restrictions. And I guess I would 1665 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions. 1666 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: Does Vox want to take back that they proclaim that 1667 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 1: the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic. Does the 1668 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,480 Speaker 1: Washington Post want to take back that they told Americans 1669 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 1: to get a grip the flu is bigger than the coronavirus. 1670 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 1: Does the Washington Post likewise want to take back that 1671 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threat of 1672 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 1: the coronavirus? Does the New York Times want to take 1673 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 1: back that fear of the virus may be spreading faster 1674 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 1: than the virus itself. Does NPR want to take back 1675 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,320 Speaker 1: that the flu was a much bigger threat than the coronavirus? 1676 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 1: And finally, once again the Washington Post, would they like 1677 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: to take back that the government should not respond aggressively 1678 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: to the coronavirus. I'll leave you with those questions and 1679 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 1: maybe you'll have some answers in a few days. This 1680 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 1: is where you do narrative voice, a narrative voice that 1681 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 1: they do not want to take. And they're not going 1682 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,600 Speaker 1: to have answers to those questions and they will not 1683 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 1: be taking that back. All right, let's get let's get 1684 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 1: some roll call going here in a moment with producer Mark. 1685 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show past. Remember to subscribe 1686 01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get 1687 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:21,679 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Hey, team Buck, it's time for roll calls. Yes, 1688 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 1: we have our tunes back. That's what I'm talking about, 1689 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Producer Mark, That's what I'm talking about. I also want 1690 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 1: to tell you that I watched the new Jerry Seinfeld 1691 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 1: stand up special last night with the Snow Princess and 1692 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: I would have you seen it yet? Yes, I watched 1693 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 1: it last night as well. Look at that we're so 1694 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,760 Speaker 1: sympatica god. And I finished Waco. What do you think 1695 01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 1: he was? Fantastic? Fantastic? All right? I mean ATF they 1696 01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 1: make APF look like like a Mexican drug card doll. 1697 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Or something that's really bad for the af and then 1698 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 1: they don't make the FBI look good at me. I 1699 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the end there, but they 1700 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,519 Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen the end of yet, but 1701 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 1: I mean I know what happened. So but at least 1702 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: there's the one guy and the FBI is like, maybe 1703 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 1: we shouldn't just the way they portrayed there's that guy, 1704 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,559 Speaker 1: the negotiator guy. I don't want to ruin it for you, 1705 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,640 Speaker 1: but the way they portrayed he looks really good, the 1706 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 1: negotiator guy, and the other guys look the technical guys 1707 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 1: look awful. Oh of course, well you know that's coming. 1708 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,479 Speaker 1: And also you have to remember that in the beginning 1709 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 1: of the show, it's based on two memoirs. One of 1710 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 1: the memoirs that the show is based on is the 1711 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 1: negotiator guy. Yes, so it's not surprising. And he's like, 1712 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,759 Speaker 1: I got an idea, maybe we shouldn't just kill everybody, 1713 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,559 Speaker 1: And they goes like, no, we have all this cool gear, 1714 01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 1: we're hardh speed, we gotta go in there and shoot 1715 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,479 Speaker 1: everybody and everything. And he's like, but maybe we could 1716 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,200 Speaker 1: d escalate for you know, You're like, uh, I think 1717 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 1: the d escalate guy might be onto something in this case, right, 1718 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I think I would have decided with 1719 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: a negotiator there. Yeah, the negotiator and the negotiate I 1720 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: was like, wait, I got on a da. Maybe we 1721 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,640 Speaker 1: don't have to like absolutely create a catastrophe here and 1722 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: then and then the other FBI guys like, why are 1723 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 1: you search a whimp? Let's go in there, Let's blow 1724 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,120 Speaker 1: everything up. You know, It's like, whoa those FBI guys 1725 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,920 Speaker 1: are you know what else? No, Princess, we watched two 1726 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,640 Speaker 1: things last night, um, and it was her choice. We 1727 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: watched the Seinfeld thing, and I will say, I'm obviously 1728 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,120 Speaker 1: the worst thing you can ever do is try to 1729 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: take a comedians jokes and tell them because it never 1730 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 1: that's that's always like people will never want to talk 1731 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 1: to you again when you do that, because you just 1732 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 1: ruin it and it's not funny. But I think you 1733 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,679 Speaker 1: can refer to the general topic and his thing about 1734 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 1: about porta potties. I mean, I was it actually like 1735 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 1: it was hurting me on the inside. Yes, that was 1736 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,920 Speaker 1: like the funniest thing that I've I mean, because it 1737 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,120 Speaker 1: was so some of his stuff about cell phones was 1738 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,120 Speaker 1: really good too. But the porta Potti thing was was 1739 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, I thought he started out a little almost 1740 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 1: like he was kind of nervous, like he hasn't done 1741 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,680 Speaker 1: a long time. Like the first five minutes of the 1742 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Seinfeld stand up, I thought were he you know, he 1743 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 1: was kind of getting maybe maybe that's true a lot 1744 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 1: of stand ups, but he was trying to get into 1745 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,960 Speaker 1: a rhythm and it was a little yeah, the audience 1746 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 1: a little bit. He was warming up himself. Yes, it 1747 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: felt it. FA's right, it felt like he was kind 1748 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: of warming up to himself whatever. But when he got going, 1749 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say, it was was really good. He still 1750 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,519 Speaker 1: has I still yeah, he's still. I mean with the 1751 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 1: porta potty thing, that was so funny that like later 1752 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,960 Speaker 1: on I thought about it to myself and still kept 1753 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 1: kind of laughing. Um, and then on oh well with Waco. 1754 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 1: The other thing that snow Princess wanted to watch was 1755 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 1: a Diehard, which she had never We were looking for 1756 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 1: someone to watch kind of late night, you know, it 1757 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 1: was just passing out and she's like, I haven't seen 1758 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: die Hard. I was like, we could always watch die Hard. 1759 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 1: But in course, of course, in die Hard you have 1760 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 1: Special Agent Johnson and Special Agent Johnson who are like 1761 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:31,479 Speaker 1: the quintessential jerk FBI agents in it. It's really funny, 1762 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, especially when the guy it's kind of like 1763 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,200 Speaker 1: the Waco guys a little bit. You've you've seen Diehard obviously, 1764 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,200 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, I remember the guys like, yeah, we'll 1765 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 1: go in there hounding heavy. You know, think about thirty 1766 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,400 Speaker 1: percent casualties for the hostages. I can live with that, 1767 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 1: And everyone's like, what it's The Waco guys are a 1768 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,200 Speaker 1: little bit like that, you know, there's a little bit 1769 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 1: of they're like, hey, you know, half the half the 1770 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: people may die in the shootout. We're going to start here, 1771 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,759 Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta break gotta break some eggs 1772 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 1: to make an omic. I mean, since you know what 1773 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the eventually happen. The Waco guys were worst of that technically. 1774 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh no, no, it's really bad. It's really bad. 1775 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Um So, and you know at Ruby Ridge, the Weaver 1776 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: family at Ruby Rich they got three million dollars from 1777 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 1: the government. So it's not like you know that that 1778 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,719 Speaker 1: thing was bad. It was on a much smaller scale, 1779 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 1: but that was a bad shoot too. Anyway, all right, 1780 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,719 Speaker 1: let's get to uh, I know, we get all excited 1781 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 1: about this stuff. I will say, though, I had one. 1782 01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,840 Speaker 1: I ordered from some gluten free burgers last night from 1783 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,720 Speaker 1: a restaurant that I want to try. And you know 1784 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,640 Speaker 1: when you read the when you read the reviews and 1785 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,760 Speaker 1: you're like, maybe these people just don't like the place. No, 1786 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 1: they were right. I turned to snow Princess, I was like, 1787 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: do you like I was kind of like, do you 1788 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,600 Speaker 1: like your burger, honey? And she's like she's trying, and 1789 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you don't. But hey, we put some 1790 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,639 Speaker 1: money in the local economy and people are still working. 1791 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 1: And you know she doesn't order a regular burger. Oh no, 1792 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,760 Speaker 1: she had a regular one. Oh, I had a gluten free. 1793 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 1: So the gluten free and the regular burgers all sucked. 1794 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Both that yeah, both bad. So that was a that 1795 01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: was a miss. Swinging a miss from the buckster. All right, 1796 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 1: we got roll calls, so we gotta do it. And 1797 01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 1: and the producer mark here it is Greta always like 1798 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,800 Speaker 1: that name. Yes, Wisconsin is the Badgers, and our main 1799 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 1: college rivalry is the Minnesota Gophers. Oh gosh, Gophers. Oh yeah. 1800 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,440 Speaker 1: In my opinion, the real Midwest beef is between Wisconsin 1801 01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 1: and Illinois, though unfortunately I live about a half a 1802 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,839 Speaker 1: mile from the Illinois Wisconsin border. Around here, Illinois residents 1803 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:40,439 Speaker 1: are generally referred or commonly referred to as FIBs, effing 1804 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 1: Illinois bastards. WHOA, that's pretty intense Midwest beef, is it? 1805 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: That's funny? Their next line is Midwest beef is intense. 1806 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess there's nothing better 1807 01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 1: to do than eight on each other. Where I come from, 1808 01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 1: nobody cares about Mainland Michigan. The the the how do 1809 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: we say it, the up, the up upers. The up 1810 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,719 Speaker 1: is cool. And yes, we all sound like that, although 1811 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 1: we like to pretend we don't. Oh yeah, we all 1812 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 1: sound like that, do you. Oh youup is great? Oh gosh, 1813 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 1: it's a great place. Uh. And I didn't know that 1814 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 1: there's any I can't imagine people in the West having 1815 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 1: all this beef with each other. But I do know, 1816 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 1: for example, from d the NFL, which is the one 1817 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 1: sport that I have made an effort in recent years 1818 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:27,600 Speaker 1: to really watch regularly, that the beef between the Vikings 1819 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,920 Speaker 1: and the Bears is substantial. Yeah, and the Packers and 1820 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 1: the Bears and oh, the Packers and the Bears, and 1821 01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,960 Speaker 1: the Packers and Bears and Packers and Vikings even bigger actions. Yes, yeah, 1822 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,920 Speaker 1: so you can kind of you can kind of sense that. 1823 01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 1: One the weird thing for New York is our is 1824 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,760 Speaker 1: our New York Football Giants play in New Jersey. Their 1825 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 1: stadium is in New Jersey. So to your New York 1826 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,599 Speaker 1: Football Jets, yeah, well, I mean, come out of Jets. Technically, 1827 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,320 Speaker 1: the only New York football team is the Buffalo Bills. 1828 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Good call. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell snow Princess is 1829 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 1: from Buffalo, So I'm gonna tell her that that little 1830 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 1: bit of that factoid. I am pressed her in the 1831 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,800 Speaker 1: early days by telling her that the Google Dolls are 1832 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,519 Speaker 1: in fact from Buffalo and are one of my favorite 1833 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 1: nineties rock bands. And I don't care what people say 1834 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,760 Speaker 1: about that. The Google Dolls are great. I have a 1835 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 1: friend who was obsessed with them. They're great. Yeah, they're good. 1836 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Their songs really stand up. I mean they're really catchy, 1837 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, good musicians. Anyway, Matthew writes, Hey, Buck, I 1838 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,800 Speaker 1: just saw a local restaurant called Publano's with a huge 1839 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 1: crowd outside. Turns out they've organized and an event focused 1840 01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,799 Speaker 1: on a special day. They're having all out held outside 1841 01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 1: with social distancing encouraged. I'm assuming if it's if it's Poblanos, 1842 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: it was probably a Sinco de Mayo party. Not to like, 1843 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,040 Speaker 1: but I mean right, yeah, if this was sent this week, 1844 01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,840 Speaker 1: then yeah, it has to be. Yeah. I love the 1845 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,559 Speaker 1: ingenuity in their persistence through the crisis. It's truly American strong. 1846 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 1: North Carolina is sick of the quarantine. Shield tie Buck, 1847 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,479 Speaker 1: please continue to keep us safe and warm at night, Matthew, 1848 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, Shield tie Keeping you safe 1849 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,639 Speaker 1: and warm at night, That's what we do. Randy, hey Buck, 1850 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:08,519 Speaker 1: don't feel bad about your nerd trophies. Thanks Randy. I 1851 01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,960 Speaker 1: want producer Mark will make sure that I'm kept in 1852 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,679 Speaker 1: check with my nerd trophies. I competed in some chess 1853 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,120 Speaker 1: tournaments back in the day. I didn't get no trophies, 1854 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,080 Speaker 1: just a piece of paper. Only one girl was ever 1855 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,040 Speaker 1: impressed by my chessboard prowess. Lol. I feel a little 1856 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 1: gross after reading the last sentence. Shields High. You know, Randy, 1857 01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,519 Speaker 1: chess is I like chess? Actually, I think chess is 1858 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,720 Speaker 1: a fun game. It's a fun game to play with 1859 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 1: somebody because you really you know, you can get super 1860 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 1: intense about it, or you can play more relaxed chess. 1861 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,760 Speaker 1: My preferred version of playing chess with someone is with 1862 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,040 Speaker 1: like a nice glass of mescal or to kill in 1863 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,880 Speaker 1: the rocks, or a nice red wine in hand. You 1864 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,879 Speaker 1: know that's the way to do it. Maybe play some tunes, 1865 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,240 Speaker 1: sit back, relax and let cat Stevens, let the cat purr. 1866 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 1: You know that's that's what you want to do. It 1867 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 1: sounds offensive to people who play chess competitively, I know, right, 1868 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,799 Speaker 1: the people that are really into it, or chess nerds. 1869 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,200 Speaker 1: I want a bishop tonight six. I will take your 1870 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,920 Speaker 1: rook with my bawn. I don't know why they're all Russian, 1871 01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,479 Speaker 1: all of a sudden what they are, because we all 1872 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,760 Speaker 1: know the Rooskis are good at chess, right, Sure, I 1873 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 1: to feed you. I will crush your keying and take 1874 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 1: him from you just like that. No, that's exactly how 1875 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,599 Speaker 1: they sound. I'm sure that's exactly how they all say. 1876 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 1: Going to the park, even you'll see some guy they're 1877 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,200 Speaker 1: named Igors like I will play you in speed chess. 1878 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,120 Speaker 1: We will we will play for money, or we will 1879 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 1: play for who will cut off their finger. I feel 1880 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 1: like this was a storyline on the Nickelodeon cartoon. Hey, Arnold, 1881 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,680 Speaker 1: there's something about chess. I've never seen that cartoon. I 1882 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,120 Speaker 1: even heard of it, so I'll have to take your 1883 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 1: word for it. He really are old. My name is Suragay. 1884 01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,720 Speaker 1: I will take your house and all of your money 1885 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,000 Speaker 1: if you don't win this chess match. That's how it goes. 1886 01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,360 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. Chris Buck love the show. I'm 1887 01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,320 Speaker 1: slow so it took me a bit to realize. Oh okay, Chris, 1888 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,400 Speaker 1: thanks so much. Man covid has now replaced climate farce 1889 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 1: as a means of establishing nearly full so control. Oh. 1890 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,519 Speaker 1: I think he slowly realized that, not that he loves 1891 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,360 Speaker 1: the show now and now I get it. I was like, okay, 1892 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:05,599 Speaker 1: if it takes you want to love the show. As 1893 01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,280 Speaker 1: long as you love the show, I'm happy. Clearly the 1894 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:11,800 Speaker 1: host will slow to realize things too. Wow, it's like that. 1895 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 1: It's like that. You guys could all read you guys 1896 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,240 Speaker 1: should write it now and tell producer Mark he has 1897 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 1: to be nice to the host anyway. It gives them cover, 1898 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: since even one life loss is too many, except of 1899 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,880 Speaker 1: course baby booh gosh, baby butchering, which is life saving 1900 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,080 Speaker 1: to them. If this doesn't wake people up, nothing short 1901 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,200 Speaker 1: of a police state will even then it will take years. Yeah, 1902 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,880 Speaker 1: I know they've they've there's been an ideological shift toward 1903 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 1: lockdown and the collective lockdown. The collective is lockdown consensus 1904 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 1: that this this can give them everything that they normally 1905 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 1: want and can't achieve through legislation or through constitutional means. 1906 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 1: There has been that shift that has occurred, So we 1907 01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:49,960 Speaker 1: need to keep that in mind. We need to remember that. 1908 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,160 Speaker 1: Becky hey buck, how do we use a nation charge 1909 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,280 Speaker 1: the governors with treason who are not opening up their states, 1910 01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 1: holding people hostage and not letting our countrymen live free lives. 1911 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 1: They're withholding freedom from citizens. As you know, my state 1912 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: has been opening up in increments, but feel as slow 1913 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 1: as heck, and my states started opening the very first 1914 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 1: group of states that opened, we still have not been 1915 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,400 Speaker 1: able to go shopping at a department store for necessities 1916 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,280 Speaker 1: such as undergarments. Also, how the heck do we get 1917 01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,880 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi out cannot barely stand abiding in the same 1918 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 1: country with this lying, devious, more than privileged excuse for 1919 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:31,320 Speaker 1: a house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, she's she's a master legislator. 1920 01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,640 Speaker 1: She's gonna just you know, she's Trump is Trump is 1921 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,680 Speaker 1: the devil. And you know, I don't know, man, how 1922 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 1: do you get rid of Pelosi? You know, tell the 1923 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,320 Speaker 1: Libs to stop voting for the worst person ever. And treason, 1924 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 1: as you know, is giving aid and comfort to the 1925 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,080 Speaker 1: enemy under law, So you can't get any these people 1926 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 1: for treason. And you know, I think that um, some 1927 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:57,719 Speaker 1: are not opening the states up because they are really 1928 01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,519 Speaker 1: really worried. But a lot are not opening them. And 1929 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean this citizens as well as leadership and political leadership, 1930 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,400 Speaker 1: but a lot are also not opening it up. I 1931 01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:09,720 Speaker 1: think for the political reasons of control and economic suppression. 1932 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,120 Speaker 1: Right an economic suppression is in a sense very much 1933 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,679 Speaker 1: tied to control, because if you continue to suppress this economy, 1934 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,679 Speaker 1: it means that you will be able to rest control 1935 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,240 Speaker 1: away from Trump and have control yourself. That see word 1936 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,559 Speaker 1: keeps coming up for a reason. It's very central to 1937 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:32,080 Speaker 1: the left's thinking. The Libs are obsessed with it. You're 1938 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,800 Speaker 1: in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and 1939 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Show podcast more roll Call here. Jonathan writes, Hey, Buck, 1940 01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,599 Speaker 1: if it makes you feel better. No one can whistle 1941 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: with a mask on Producer Mark. I think that's probably true, 1942 01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 1: isn't it. Maybe they can and you just can't hear 1943 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: it as much, right, but so it would be a 1944 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,320 Speaker 1: stifled whistle. But can you even I feel like it 1945 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,000 Speaker 1: would be difficult, would be you know, I mean not 1946 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: that I'm good at whistling, like actually can't whistle. But 1947 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:05,000 Speaker 1: that's not why I hate it. Whistling is an auditory 1948 01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 1: violation and it's terrible. No whistling, I know. See, I 1949 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna do that. He's just being he's 1950 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,479 Speaker 1: just being mean. Now he's you know, Prucer Mark is 1951 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,720 Speaker 1: just running around spiking the football in the end zone 1952 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 1: with his whistle at the end of the show because 1953 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,879 Speaker 1: he knows I'm happy that we got through another fantastic 1954 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 1: show and so he can get away with his nonsense today. 1955 01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 1: But you know, it's as long as you never do 1956 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:26,800 Speaker 1: and I'm don't do this one on the show because 1957 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,200 Speaker 1: people people will their ear drums will explode, or at 1958 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,120 Speaker 1: least mine will. The thing where people put the fingers 1959 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,840 Speaker 1: in the mouth though in the football stadiums that I 1960 01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't even do that. The person that 1961 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 1: is near you does not want their ear drums blown 1962 01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,400 Speaker 1: out so you can make a stupid whistle sound. Don't 1963 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 1: do that, folks. I've happorting events too. It's just it's 1964 01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,479 Speaker 1: not that I mind the whistling, is just don't do 1965 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 1: it next to me. It's just super obnoxious because it 1966 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:49,760 Speaker 1: really is only loud to the people right next to you, 1967 01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 1: and it's super loud to them, and no one else cares. 1968 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why people think that's cool. That should 1969 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 1: be banned, banished. It should get you like you should 1970 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,360 Speaker 1: be treated like the person of Master Square arden who 1971 01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,439 Speaker 1: throws his hot dog on the floor, you know, in 1972 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 1: front of it or you know, I mean on the 1973 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,400 Speaker 1: basketball floor or on the ice, yes, which is where 1974 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: they play hockey. See, I know some things. It's where 1975 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 1: they play hockey on the ice. True, you know, Producer Mark, 1976 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,280 Speaker 1: I will tell you I actually tried, and I know 1977 01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,559 Speaker 1: it's on Disney Plus, so I will watch it. I 1978 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,920 Speaker 1: tried to convince No Princess to watch Miracle, and you 1979 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:22,160 Speaker 1: know what, you don't want to watch it because we 1980 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:23,720 Speaker 1: were so tired that you wanted to watch the whole 1981 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,240 Speaker 1: thing through. Okay, watch it. I'm excited for that, so 1982 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a producer mark recommendation there. Instead, we 1983 01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,519 Speaker 1: watched the first thirty minutes of Diehard and fell asleep 1984 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 1: to Lula likes Diehard too, though she's into it. She's like, yes, 1985 01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,200 Speaker 1: die Hard, all right. Michael writes, Buck, I really liked 1986 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:39,479 Speaker 1: your segment with Andy Dean. I used to listen to 1987 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,320 Speaker 1: him on radio every day back in the day. Hearing 1988 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,679 Speaker 1: two big brains discuss politics and policy is great content. 1989 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:49,160 Speaker 1: She'll tie from Austin KLBJ. Austin, what is up. Great 1990 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:50,960 Speaker 1: to talk to you, folks. Thank you so much for listening. 1991 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that we've had a lot of growth 1992 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,719 Speaker 1: and team Buck Austin for the last couple of years. 1993 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,840 Speaker 1: And KLBJ is a fantastic station and we're honored to 1994 01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 1: be affiliated with it. As for Andy Deane Andydine and 1995 01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,559 Speaker 1: I become friends over the years. He's a really sharp guy, 1996 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,640 Speaker 1: really smart dude, and we just get along. And you know, 1997 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:11,800 Speaker 1: he was a very solid radio host in his own 1998 01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,960 Speaker 1: right when he was on the air, and you know 1999 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 1: now he's been doing more entrepreneurial business stuff, but he 2000 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: occasionally does some commentary. He used to go and see 2001 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 1: an n a fair amount as a Trump surrogate back 2002 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 1: in back in twenty sixteen. And you know, Andy and 2003 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,000 Speaker 1: I we just look, he's he's smart, no stuff, and 2004 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,480 Speaker 1: we respect each other and we get we have good conversations. 2005 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 1: And so I got nothing but high fives and good 2006 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 1: feelings about Andy and anything I can do to help 2007 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,120 Speaker 1: him here, and we're gonna get him on the show more. 2008 01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,479 Speaker 1: I mean, he's somebody that I think should be his 2009 01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:43,760 Speaker 1: voice should be heard by more folks. Rob, Right, So 2010 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 1: you missed the most obvious flaw in cuomos. You might 2011 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,040 Speaker 1: kill someone if you don't wear a mask. Speech. If 2012 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 1: I go on in public without a mask and someone dies, 2013 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: they were almost certainly at risk. So if they are out, 2014 01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,520 Speaker 1: they put themselves at risk, not me. I say, mandatory 2015 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 1: masks at essential places like the supermarket anywhere else you 2016 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:07,559 Speaker 1: go there, you take your chances, Rob, interesting theory. Thank 2017 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,680 Speaker 1: you for writing in Edmund. So it's been shown that 2018 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,320 Speaker 1: using antibodies from people that had COVID nineteen to cure 2019 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen works. Why can't the government pay people with 2020 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,519 Speaker 1: anibodies to donate their blood for making these cures? Several 2021 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 1: million people have the antibodies now, Edmund, I don't think 2022 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 1: it's that clear and that effective. I think it's considered helpful. 2023 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,120 Speaker 1: This is also the fancy way of saying it's convalescent plasma, 2024 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 1: but it's just antibodies in the blood being pulled out 2025 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,360 Speaker 1: and given to somebody else. If you're really too far gone. 2026 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:36,920 Speaker 1: Part of the problem is by the time people get 2027 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,080 Speaker 1: to the hospital, they're often too sick and too far 2028 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,800 Speaker 1: gone for really any treatment to be very effective. And 2029 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 1: other people who aren't that far gone aren't that sick. 2030 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell if they're getting better because of 2031 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 1: the treatment or if they were going to get better anyway. 2032 01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:53,320 Speaker 1: But Edmund, I do appreciate you writing in and sharing 2033 01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on this one. And let's save the red. We've 2034 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,439 Speaker 1: got some more great roll calls here. Let's say those 2035 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,200 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. We've got some fantastic guest lineup for tomorrow too, 2036 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,839 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a great show. My friends. Please 2037 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,000 Speaker 1: do pass the buck. Tell somebody just do me a favor. 2038 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: It really is a favorite, and I really do appreciate it. 2039 01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,639 Speaker 1: Tell someone you know, text them, email them, send them 2040 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,120 Speaker 1: a link to the buck Sex and show. Say you 2041 01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,680 Speaker 1: gotta listen to this guy on radio. It's really worthwhile. 2042 01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,639 Speaker 1: That is my early Christmas and Birthday present this year, 2043 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 1: so for me and producer Mark, although for him it's 2044 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 1: a Hanakah present, but that's you know, you guys already 2045 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 1: know that, all right, everyone, thanks so much for listening. 2046 01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:27,759 Speaker 1: She'll tie