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Speaker 1: I t E dot com. So you guys just competed

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Speaker 1: in a shooting tournament. We did sig arc.

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Speaker 2: Archery rifle competition and.

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Speaker 1: You got like, how are you? How you selling it

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Speaker 1: to people? Look like I could see saying you got

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Speaker 1: whooped or saying you did good, and both would be

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Speaker 1: true cause if seven, if you had seven things and

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Speaker 1: drew a line in the middle, it'd be four yes.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we end.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what end.

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Speaker 2: You come fectly average.

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Speaker 1: You count to the left, you count, you come from

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Speaker 1: the left, you come from the right, and.

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Speaker 2: Four yeah, but you know my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Became meaning you came in fourth place out of seven people. Yes,

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Speaker 1: which you're proud or sad?

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Speaker 2: Is my microphone not working perfectly? That's what it kind

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Speaker 2: of felt like right there.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to really makes I wanted to be very clear.

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Speaker 1: I wanted all people, all listeners, to understand four out

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Speaker 1: of seven.

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Speaker 2: Right, which it took Clay and I a while to

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Speaker 2: understand that it was right down the middle, because when

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Speaker 2: I say four out of seven, somehow that.

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Speaker 4: Just seems sounds like you're on the back end.

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Speaker 2: If you had to just say something at four in

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Speaker 2: one out of seven, I'd go low.

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Speaker 1: But now round up. No, when you put that way,

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Speaker 1: it well, it feels a little.

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Speaker 2: My daughter took the Colson all the actual point breakout

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Speaker 2: numbers one through seven, and so that my daughter took

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Speaker 2: the numbers and did some math. I wasn't following the math,

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Speaker 2: and she said that, like just straight score wise, we

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Speaker 2: actually were like way higher, like we were more up

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Speaker 2: in the bottom three. Does that make sense, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, way, if you're at four and you went way higher,

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Speaker 1: yeah to three, there's just a bigger way higher.

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Speaker 2: The numbers were a lot closer in the top four

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Speaker 1: Perhaps you should explain, Perhaps you should try to put

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Speaker 1: your arms around the contest seven.

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Speaker 3: What were you doing seven teams. Each team consists of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like they call them team managers.

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Speaker 3: Team managers, which would be kind of like a range officer,

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Speaker 3: which is a RO is a common termy here in

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Speaker 3: these shooting competitions of which this is my second ever.

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Speaker 2: And they were representatives of SIG, employees of SIG yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: So there were there seven stages every day, correct, so

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Speaker 3: plus a night shoot.

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Speaker 2: Plus two stages at night yep.

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Speaker 3: So, and it's all you know, it's live ammunition obviously,

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Speaker 2: But you had roughly twenty minutes to walk somewhere between

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Speaker 3: And then there's the scoring. I still don't truly understand,

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Speaker 1: Like like how good you hit? Yeah, exactly, and you

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Speaker 3: Yes, you could have hedged your bets because if you

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Speaker 3: You would be way better off just being like cool,

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Speaker 1: Right, was there any long distance shooting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, only two people out of all the teams hit

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Speaker 2: But listen, how is the target? Listen as a full

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Speaker 2: size elk. They originally Daniel Horner, who is contracted by

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Speaker 2: Say does a lot of stuff with sake. One of

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Speaker 2: the better shooters in the world right now. He set this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's been on the podcast. He set the course up.

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Speaker 2: Originally he was going to put a lot of weight

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Speaker 1: All you got to do is get a piece of it.

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Speaker 2: You just got to make it go ding. And it

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Speaker 3: I was saying half a car.

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Speaker 2: And I held left edge. I went up there and

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Speaker 2: And it was in the end they just said that

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Speaker 3: Our personal firearms for that particular stage. And this is

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Speaker 3: carrying all of your stuff, including your personal firearm, which

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Speaker 3: we got to shoot like the new Army issue carbing,

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Speaker 3: and and here's a ten millimeter pistol. And what you're

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Speaker 3: see the targets. But each flag there's a target. Run

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Speaker 3: And when you touch the table, the next person on

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Speaker 3: of those targets, or here's take a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: to get your dope, shoot those targets with your range finder,

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Speaker 3: get your dope, and it's just impacts as many times

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Speaker 1: So what was the bow shooting part of it? Three?

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Speaker 3: There were three stages. One was like a really rushed

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Speaker 3: So three people have to shoot seven targets apiece in

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Speaker 2: One arrow each, so twenty one arrows need to be shot.

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Speaker 2: Was it fifteen or ten minutes?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was fifteen to fifteen but like us

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Speaker 3: of your choice, Yeah, but you have to sprint from

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Speaker 2: You don't have to, but if you didn't, you weren't

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Speaker 2: going to get it done. You were going to finish. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how far with the shots?

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Speaker 3: Plenty? Plenty good? I mean I think the max on

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there might have been a seventy.

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Speaker 1: But because of that, like the guy, you're the only

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Speaker 3: I was not. Oh, but magically all those other recurves

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it was time to drink beer and to

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Speaker 1: It's like they were but they weren't shooting it for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which mad like an uncomfortable amount of attention

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Speaker 3: I felt bad about that one because it was so

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Speaker 1: So terrible. So had you had you been replaced by

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Speaker 1: a compound shooter, would you guys be on the winners stand?

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Speaker 1: That's what I keep thinking about fourth places. When you

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Speaker 1: get fourth place, yeah, you're not up on those little

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Speaker 1: tiered right pedestals.

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Speaker 2: Well, this was if you ain't your last kind of

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Speaker 2: a deal. Yeah, because there was only.

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Speaker 1: The only room for one winner. Huh. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There was one check for fifty dollars right that the

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Speaker 2: that the winning team got to choose which which nonprofit,

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Speaker 2: which nonprofit it would go to? And we had chosen the.

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Speaker 1: They've been listening to too much media to trivia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who they choosing to go to?

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Speaker 3: They chose the Defenders of Freedom Fund.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Uh foundation?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, a veterans nonprofit.

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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And these guys were all veterans are or

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Speaker 3: and we were gonna donate to Montana Block Management, which

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Speaker 3: would have been a good one.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, did you go to the winner?

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Speaker 2: they're not trying to say that that person changes all

448
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Speaker 2: the time.

449
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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something about something?

450
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Speaker 2: Oh, Steve got the finger. Everybody just didn't lean in

451
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: on that.

452
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Speaker 6: Listen.

453
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Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you something. You know what I

454
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: did close this computer, krit Can you remind us energy

455
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: krin when I do when we do. Steve reads the books,

456
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: so you ain't got to Can you remind me to

457
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: tell Yanni what I need to tell him?

458
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 5: Oh, so you're not telling us now? In a minute,

459
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 5: all right, stay tuned.

460
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: So my kids were visiting their grandma, their maternal grandmother,

461
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: and there's a T shirt shop that you took him to.

462
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: This is the way to go on a T shirt shop.

463
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: All the designs are on the wall. Mm hmm okay,

464
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: hundreds of the designs on the wall, tons of blank

465
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: T shirts. You pick the colored shirt you want, You

466
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: picked the design you want. The dude at the connor

467
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: goes burns the design into the shirt hands to the kid.

468
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: That's dad, run a T shirt program.

469
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Speaker 3: Dangerous for kids?

470
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Though.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't want that one. No once, no, If I

472
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Speaker 1: remember right, I think they settled up. Oh, yeah, that's

473
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: how they settled up before. My kid had a steelhead

474
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: burned onto a tied die hoodie. That's good taste, Yeah,

475
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: madd he went with the steelhead burned onto a tie.

476
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Speaker 5: We should get a little corner of the store downtown

477
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 5: to do that, just burning shirt.

478
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Speaker 1: So we got the gnome packing out of dead unicorn.

479
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: We got the noome roast and a jack rabbit, and

480
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: we got the gnome spear fishing right the mermaid? No, no,

481
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Speaker 1: no fishing. It's a gnome jigging hal a bit. But

482
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Speaker 1: he tied into a mermaid.

483
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Speaker 11: Oh okay, okay, because I didn't I knew it wasn't

484
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Speaker 11: like a gnome spirit.

485
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Speaker 1: You're telling me he's doing battle. It's the gnome jigging

486
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Speaker 1: hal abit. But he hooked into a mermaid, and he's

487
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: doing battle with a mermaid.

488
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't believe it that the mermaid took the same

489
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: bait that she's foul hooked.

490
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: She's trying to get the bait off the hook. I

491
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: can't remember. We don't have her lip hooked.

492
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 10: I hope.

493
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: How is she hooked in that? I don't think she's

494
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Speaker 1: lip hooked.

495
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Speaker 3: Can you see the jib twister tail can you.

496
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Pull that up? Phil? How is she hooked? I remember

497
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: debating this, and we didn't think we wanted to have

498
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Speaker 1: her lip hooked. If I remember right now, I think

499
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Speaker 1: I think we settled on her her position. Her position

500
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: is such that I think we settled on this because

501
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: we didn't want to get into any kind of strange territory.

502
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: I think we settled on her position. Few skates it does.

503
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: It's behind her body. You can't tell how.

504
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: She said gotcha, but I think she does. It make

505
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: sense that she's lip hooked like she was eating the bait.

506
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of thee I can't zoom in far enough.

507
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: It's hard to tell.

508
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: I can picture her trying to grab it.

509
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: Now it disappears around the mid section of her tail,

510
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: and you can't tell where it's huck.

511
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: It's maybe follow hooks in the shoulder.

512
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 7: Well, what about she was saving the halbit, removing a

513
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 7: hook from a helvet and then got hung up.

514
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like all its subjective.

515
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, was targeting mermaids.

516
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: That's what it's meant. It's meant to be that only

517
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: the artist knows.

518
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Good job.

519
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: When I conceptualized the idea, it was he was jigging

520
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: hal of it, but tied into a mermaid and was

521
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: glad about it some of the women in the because

522
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: some of the women in the company pointed out, he

523
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: doesn't know is this is this sexual in nature? Or

524
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: is this like close to cannibalism in nature. That's why

525
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: he hasn't caught it yet, because if it was caught,

526
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: you'd have to wrestle, you'd have to wrestle that question.

527
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that what comes next?

528
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: Yes, So what is he going to do with the mermaid?

529
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: Is to the wearer's imagination.

530
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: Or you know, until it's in the boat.

531
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 12: If we get that burn your own design, maybe we

532
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 12: should have a painting contest to have that scene. But

533
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 12: what happens renditions of that that scene when he catches her.

534
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: After the success of the after the success of the

535
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: essay contest, watercolor, And I think that if you can,

536
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: if you can look at the shirt design and then

537
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: sending artwork showing what happened next, and quite like if

538
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: it if it winds up being reproductive in nature, put

539
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: a caution.

540
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: I like that.

541
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 10: Maybe we'll put it up on Steve's Instagram.

542
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: He's by himself, so he's not yelling get the gaff

543
00:27:54,440 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: to anyway, uh Krin also needs more outro music submissions,

544
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 5: so we we for twenty twenty four as the one

545
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: we're in.

546
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: We're doing all out. Well, it's a little more complicated that.

547
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: For a while, Okay, for a while we had ultro

548
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the hell we were using

549
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: for ultra music. For a long time we had ultro

550
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: music from Sheerwater. It's a band that a Sheerwater is

551
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: a bird. There's a band by an there's an ornithologist

552
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: who has a band called Sheerwater. He used to study

553
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Cara Kara's but he had a song called Wildlife in America.

554
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: And for a long time our ultro music was sort

555
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: of an excerpt from Wildlife in America, which is actually

556
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: about soldiers returning from the war in Iraq in Afghania,

557
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: the wars in Iraq in Afghanistan. That was the ultro music.

558
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know any of that from listening to it,

559
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: but that's what it was. Then one day we talked

560
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: about something too long and someone made a comment about

561
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: someone made a comment about like you beat that horse

562
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: to death. So then we switched the outro music to

563
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Christopher Denny's Ride On in which he says, we've done

564
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: beat this damn horse to death. That's time to ride out.

565
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 10: He'll be on the podcast soon.

566
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: By the way, people loved and hated, loved and hated

567
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: that song. Christopher Danny one day, somehow oblivious to the

568
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: fact that his song that we licensed his song. Yep.

569
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: It was a hard negotiation, hard to get a hold

570
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: of anybody. We license this song. And one day he

571
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: writes in, Hey, I see you're using my song. Like now,

572
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: that didn't happen easily. He doesn't even know we use

573
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: this song. He's gonna come on the podcast. Yep. He

574
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: didna come on the podcast and tell you everything that's

575
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: wrong with the music industry. Will When our license of

576
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: that was running out, rather than renewing it, we did

577
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: a thing where we're only using music that people send

578
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: in because people are sending cool songs. And here we

579
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: are halfway through the year.

580
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 11: We need a refrap, right, but we need music that's

581
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 11: not already floating around the internet. So if you guys

582
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 11: want to take take a little bit of time and

583
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 11: write a podcast specific song or an ode to Steve

584
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 11: or the outdoors, you know a lot.

585
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 10: Of people did that.

586
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 12: We need originals because you know how the podcast.

587
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: You can watch the podcast on YouTube. If your music,

588
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: even if you've licensed your music anywhere, if your music

589
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: is on Spotify, whatever, they're gonna scrub it and dingus

590
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: for a dingus for a copyright infringement. Even if you're

591
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: giving permission, it's still gonna It's just gonna happen.

592
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hassle.

593
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: It's a pain in crins, but it is. So you

594
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: got to give us music you haven't published.

595
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 7: Yet, right, and so like a couple of you still

596
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 7: publish it.

597
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 11: Later, a couple of people just sat around and picked

598
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 11: up a guitar. I just started singing and it was

599
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 11: like an impromptu. There's one guy who uh who wrote

600
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 11: a song called Raccoon Pecker or he didn't really right

601
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 11: and he just it was funny.

602
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 9: It was.

603
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: Where does Doug Duran's podcast blues Go Trivia?

604
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: We got one right now, our very own dirt myth

605
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: And every time I look at dip a Fishingado with

606
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: dirt on. When Dirt made the cover of Dip Fisha,

607
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I still laugh.

608
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh me, Yeah, that's the best piece.

609
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: In here, Dirt sending a song we like lately when

610
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: we're goofing on Dirt, who's not here. Lately the theme

611
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: has been goofing on the noises Dirt makes while eating.

612
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: We should have him test the uh we did have

613
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Dirt eat that and put him bake up to him. Yeah,

614
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: this next level.

615
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: And if you have you can't buy this Dirt, you can't.

616
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: You can't hear this.

617
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: But he's usually has two thumbs out yea.

618
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: And if there were these two bags here and they

619
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: sat long enough, he with his last bite of this bag,

620
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: he'd be like, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit another

621
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: one of that.

622
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Elbow. This the next level. You, Oh, he eats the

623
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: way if.

624
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: He walked into like a medieval tavern and you saw

625
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: someone eating from a rough bole, Yes.

626
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: We already covered it with my favorite. His Dirt was

627
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: talking about what his grandpa used for chapstick. He says,

628
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: Grandpa uses his own earwag. He digs into his ear,

629
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: gets a gobble wax and rubs us.

630
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Brugal family.

631
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Dirt said, doing two things his dad's His

632
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: dad's tried to make himself that he was never happy with.

633
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: His dad was trying to make his own dip okay

634
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to grow in a back listle to make

635
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: his own dip and his dad was trying to make

636
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: his own his own pellets for a pellet grill. That frugal,

637
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: trying to make his own pellets for a pellet grill.

638
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: We one time made a big dugout can you have

639
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: a cottonwood log? And it was just killing Dirt's dad

640
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: that we're gonna leave it land there. So he brought

641
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: it home and turned it into a planner, Like, this

642
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: is no way he's gonna leave that thing. It's a

643
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: perfectly good cracked hollow log. Uh, open country. Are you

644
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna play a little bit, Philip, just a little talk?

645
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like it's over five minutes.

646
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Play the whole damn thing. Play put the whole thing

647
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Okay, So Dirt wants

648
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: to point out, being a good guy that he is

649
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Dirt Dirt. This is in the notes dirt colon, not

650
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: Dirt's colon. I don't need to see that dirt colon.

651
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Make sure when you guys play post about open Country,

652
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: that's Dirt song. It's called open country. Oh h Dirt says,

653
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: it has a lot to say about the song. He

654
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: also has this to say. This song you're about to hear,

655
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: open Country by Dirt quote has the core principles of

656
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: why I do what I do. Amen into that shit.

657
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Dirt that went on to say, make sure and you

658
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: guys play posts about open country. My cousin Andrew Smith,

659
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: who's handled his makeshift radio m AK shift Radio MAC

660
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: basically Mac shift underscore Radio, so at m A K

661
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: S H I f T Underscore Radio gets mentioned for recording,

662
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: mixing and playing piano. Dirt continues, He's a great dude

663
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: and has a Spotify. His stuff is very ethereal and

664
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: does a cool sound mixing and does cool sound mixing

665
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: for a living. So with credit where credit is due,

666
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: play play a quick lick there, Phil, and then we'll

667
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: come back at the end of the show. We'll come back.

668
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 6: Give me, give me a lit of something that inspired.

669
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 13: Me.

670
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 6: Put me all that's what lies my fire.

671
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: Excellent, the lovely and talented Dirt myth. I can't wait.

672
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 6: Man.

673
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: If I had to pick between dirt being alive and

674
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: all you being alive, I'd picked dirt, you know what

675
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I throw myself into that mix. I'd

676
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: rather dirty alive, way more than media life.

677
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: It would be the only person that would make you

678
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: feel good somehow about everybody else being dead. He'd be like,

679
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: but you know, I.

680
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: Can't think of a time. I can't think of a

681
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: single time in my life. Dirt has ever gone negative.

682
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh that gnome that tried to molest him in Ireland.

683
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that guy that creeped him out big time.

684
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 6: Yeah like that.

685
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: Other than that, dirt's never gone negative. And he wasn't

686
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: even entirely negative about the gnome, not a gnome A

687
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: little yeah, Leprechaun tried to molest him.

688
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Is the only logical conclusion that we could all come to.

689
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's laughing about my face being on the bag

690
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: of a of a listen, my face being on the

691
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: bag of a freeze dry meal. But let me tell

692
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: you why I'm uniquely qualified to have my face on

693
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: the bag of a freeze dry meal. Please, Ken, you're

694
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: supposed to hold that right, Yeah, I'll tell you why

695
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm why I'm uniquely qualified, and why this man before

696
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: any of you guys, while you guys were still when

697
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: you guys were still getting milk from your mama's tea,

698
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: I was eating freeze dry. Not only that, not only that,

699
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I was writing about freeze dry back when like astronauts

700
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: knew about it many many years ago. I wrote a

701
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: piece for Outside, an exhaustively reported piece on freeze dry food,

702
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: like how it came into use, who the first users were.

703
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: I got into the lurps from Vietnam. I got into

704
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: space travel. I got into how space ice cream has

705
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: gone to space, but no one ever chose to eat

706
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: space ice cream in space.

707
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 11: They just eat it at the Kennedy Space Center like

708
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 11: I did.

709
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Had it, they had it. And I got into how

710
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: a favorite of the astronauts is shrimp cocktail. I went

711
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: to a freeze dry research facility and the guy says,

712
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: we got everything in here. Try to think of something,

713
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: and I just said, I don't know. And I thought

714
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: from it and I said, capers got it freeze dry.

715
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: As part of my article, I had a bunch of

716
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: people from the food industry come over and we did

717
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: a tasting of all kind of freeze dry. Okay, I

718
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: was like the original freeze dry journalist, Well only did

719
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 1: that one piece.

720
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: Under that one piece, but you know what I'm saying,

721
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: it was so encompassing you the genre I to find.

722
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, you know, there's like a mic drop. Yeah,

723
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: But there's only so much you can say about freeze dry.

724
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I said it. I went and visited a sublimation chamber.

725
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: So when you're making freeze drive, you make you make

726
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: a meal that's ready. There's different ways of doing it.

727
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: The right way to do it is you cook something

728
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that's ready to eat. You then spread it on trays

729
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and freeze it. And the temperature at which you freeze it,

730
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the humidity at which you freeze it all matters a bunch.

731
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: You then take that and put a in the sublimation chamber,

732
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: pull a vacuum on it, and the water in their sublimates,

733
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: meaning it goes water goes from its solid state to

734
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: its gaseous state, never goes to a liquid state. When

735
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: you pull these sheets out, you could break them like

736
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: a pane of glass, grind it all up, throw in

737
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: a sack. That's freeze dry production in a nutshell. One

738
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: thing I learned and the time I spent exploring freeze dry,

739
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: is that certain things are good when you freeze drive,

740
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: and certain things ain't good when you freeze drive. When

741
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: you go to these fancy pants, you know everybody now

742
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: has got some fancy pants freeze dry like seven wild

743
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: mushroom risotto. Listen, I like good food as much as

744
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: the next get A lot of things aren't suitable to

745
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: freeze dry. Meaning, if you made a freeze dry hamburger,

746
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: what are you gonna have when you rehydrate it? The

747
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: burger bun doesn't know when to stop sucking up water,

748
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: right Like if you want to rehydrate a cheeseburger, the

749
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: bun is it doesn't work like you need stuff that

750
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Everything wants the same amount of soak. And that's the

751
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: key to a good freeze dry meal. And just because

752
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: seven wild mushroom risotto is good at a restaurant doesn't

753
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: mean it's good out of a sack. Like it doesn't.

754
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: Everything doesn't translate.

755
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: It needs a consistent saturation point.

756
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: And it's just certain efforts get wasted. Certain efforts get

757
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: like certain flavors and textures and things that make things good.

758
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Once you freeze dry it and grind it up and

759
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: throw it in a sack, it goes away. There's just

760
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: certain things that work as freeze drying. I'll tell you

761
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: what works as freeze dry as American buffalo barbecue mac

762
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: and cheese, and then Yanni's more to Yanni's to thank

763
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: for this one. It should be Yanni's face on that

764
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: American buffalo goulash.

765
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: Instead of this guy right here. If you put your

766
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: finger right here, you can act like you're talking.

767
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: Can you do that while I talk? Phil can use

768
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: zero in on that so it's me talking? Sure? Yeah, okay,

769
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: right now?

770
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not picking his nose?

771
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 13: Is it?

772
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: Is?

773
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: It zoomed? Right Phil?

774
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 5: It's not zoomed.

775
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: But I'm on cal.

776
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: Here's why I use that. I'm a big supporter of

777
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: the animal. I'm a big support of American buffalo. Nine

778
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: four percent of the buffalo or bison in North America

779
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: that exists today are privately owned. I don't like the

780
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: captive servant industry none. There's no way I would do

781
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna do. I would never like do

782
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: an elk freeze dry of veniceon freeze Rik because I

783
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: don't like captive servants. There. But private owners save the

784
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: American buffalo from extinction. If it wasn't for private owners

785
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: like we would not have them at all, or would

786
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: barely have them. In terms of returning to the animals,

787
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: to the landscape. It's largely fallen to private landowners to

788
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: return the animals to the landscape. So I support the

789
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, I liked support bison ranchers, bison farmers. That's why.

790
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. And goulash is one of

791
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: those things that works. Keep going, you're gonna wear wear

792
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: a hole in that bag. Goulash is one of those

793
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: things that works. Is freeze dry. Do you know what

794
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think it was Yanni's idea.

795
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't it a long time ago. I think when we, uh.

796
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: Be honest, you're not looking at Steven the eye.

797
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: When we when we did, my eyes were up here,

798
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: and we did submissions for flavors.

799
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a meat that matters. Is the

800
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: if you got to buy a meat, it's the coolest

801
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: meat to buy outside of wild caught salmon. But I know,

802
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: but salmon, that's not a freeze dry food. I'm sure

803
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: someone does it. I don't think of sam. There's salmon jerky,

804
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: salmon jerky, No, it's not free it's good freeze dry

805
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: red meat, salmon chowder, red meat, ground up, ground up,

806
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: red meat.

807
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: But chicken does well.

808
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: I disagree.

809
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: And it doesn't belong and it doesn't belong on a

810
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: pizza either.

811
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: Red meat ground up. I agree that red meat ground up.

812
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: That's why right here, when you want to go get

813
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: a thinking man's freeze dry from a freeze dry expert,

814
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: former freeze dry journalist.

815
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: If you're a thinking man and you want to look

816
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: another thinking man in the eyes while you eat your

817
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: freeze dry, now.

818
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Listen, if you want to have a conversation with your

819
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: bag while you're alone in the hills, cows fingers.

820
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: To me, it's just you and maybe not the crew

821
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: on here. Because one of our favorite, one of our

822
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: favorite activities. When we've eaten a lot of other freeze

823
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: dries made by another company, there's multiple people sitting around

824
00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: a stove and they have these expressions that don't necessarily

825
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: like let you know exactly what they're thinking or exactly

826
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: what the joke is. And we have spent hours probably

827
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: looking at these labels and deciding what is going on,

828
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: what is going on there in that scene, And I think,

829
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: even though it's not quite the same, but this lends

830
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: itself to the same thing. So if you want to

831
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: have fun with your friends in the back country, cal.

832
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: Pointed out that you can. There's space there to do

833
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: a dialogue bubble.

834
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever you want. You could say, Bill, you could

835
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: have my boys say what are you thinking about? Bill?

836
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: And then you could answer to the bag while you're

837
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: alone in the mountains and I'm there to hear what

838
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: you have to say.

839
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, what's in that speech?

840
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: Bubble?

841
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 9: Do my art?

842
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 2: Ear?

843
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Listen? This is another good meteor contest right here.

844
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

845
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: If you're wandering about, they're both good. If you wondering

846
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: about what my my favorite Like, what am I saying there?

847
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: My spoon has three notches?

848
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

849
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: I put two?

850
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: You have to do it in Steve's voice. If Steve

851
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: was gonna say, tell you how many notches his spoon has,

852
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: how did it be going?

853
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Well, he'd be like, hey, who's got three notcher?

854
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Working? Okay? Working? Donald Listrick can We talked about the podcasting,

855
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: talking about gnomes. We talked about why I'm qualified, Why

856
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm qualified to be on a Mac and Cheese box,

857
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: talking about music, talk about dirt.

858
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 14: Oh, Mark Kenyon, right after Mac and Cheese used it

859
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 14: in alphabetical order, Mark Kenyon hit it?

860
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: Mark?

861
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 7: What am I talking about?

862
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Aren't you gonna tell us? About working for a while, Bieur, Yeah,

863
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: are you not prepared? I am.

864
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 7: I just didn't know if that was the thing. So yeah,

865
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 7: The Working for Wildlife Tour is something I kicked off

866
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 7: last year, which was kind of coming out of just

867
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 7: a realization I had just kind of looking out across

868
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 7: the country and hearing about different volunteer events going on

869
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 7: being put on by BHA or the NDA or Trout

870
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 7: Unlimited or whatever it is. You see a picture from

871
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 7: one of these events and there'd be like six people,

872
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 7: and I thought to myself, Man, these are such great events.

873
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 7: There's such good work going on. I believe there's great

874
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 7: things coming from them, but not enough folks hear about it.

875
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: Not enough people are going out and doing these things.

876
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 7: So I thought, what's some way we could help bring

877
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 7: more attention to that and kind of inspire more folks

878
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 7: to get out there and do it. So I decided

879
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 7: I'll to start doing it myself. So this tour was

880
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 7: the idea is to go around the country collaborating with

881
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 7: various nonprofit organizations to help, you know, organize these events,

882
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 7: promote these events, and then I go to them myself

883
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 7: and volunteer all day with folks. You know, meet everyone,

884
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 7: talk to folks, have a great time, and document it

885
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 7: all and then tell those stories afterwards. So what kind of.

886
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: Projects I can test? Let me tell you. I went

887
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: to one last year down in Kentucky. We went down

888
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: there and collected five gown bucket upon five gown bucket

889
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: of white a white oak acorns, and those were collected

890
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: to then be grown in a nursery oak nursery.

891
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: If you live by Clay's house, he's talking about acorns.

892
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: Acorns, that's right, and then to be planted back into

893
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: the Daniel Boone National Forest.

894
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: So where were you wandering around collecting acorns? Daniel Blue

895
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: National Forest and then you were gonna they were gonna

896
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: propagate them.

897
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, some folks had scouted them so they knew some

898
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: spots to go to. It was very educational for me,

899
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, as a deer hunter. We got to like

900
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: it was cool, and the community aspect of it was great.

901
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean you're sitting around literally sitting because there's so

902
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: many of them, it's so thick. You can just sit

903
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: down and collect acorns, and you're talking to people from

904
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: the you know community.

905
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 7: So instead of six people going out there collecting acorns,

906
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 7: we had sixty or something like that, and we collected

907
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 7: between seven hundred and eight hundred pounds of these acorns,

908
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 7: which were then propagated. I went and visited that nursery

909
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago. We have fifteen thousand oak

910
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 7: seedlings now growing.

911
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: What was the success rate? Did you find out a

912
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: corn like like what percentage? Actually, well, we're said were

913
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: viable and took and all that.

914
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 7: I don't know off the top of my head.

915
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: No, but I do know the to help a lot

916
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: more acorns than that.

917
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, so fifteen thousand trees are growing some and then

918
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 7: we're going to go back next spring and help reforce

919
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 7: parts of the national force.

920
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: So that's how how big they got to get them

921
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: for they put them back.

922
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: In the ground.

923
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 7: Well, right now they're about six inches tall. By next spring,

924
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 7: I think it'll be more like a foot.

925
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: They worried about just the deer. You're going to annihilate them.

926
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 7: That's definitely a thing. I don't know about what kind

927
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 7: of protection they may or may not be using when

928
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 7: we plant, but yeah, so that's an example.

929
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Dirt will give you an earful about that.

930
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: You know something I learned down there. Did you know

931
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: when you find an acorn with the cap on it,

932
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: it's an aborted acorn. No, whoa, I'm hoping that's what

933
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: we learned, right. They were like, if you can't pick

934
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: up the ones that don't have their caps on him anymore.

935
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Like, it didn't come to it didn't. It didn't come

936
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: to maturity.

937
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 7: I remember we were searching out with acorns.

938
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: I always preferred those ones. Yeah, big old white with

939
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: no cap. Yeah.

940
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 7: We were also looking to make sure that we're weavil

941
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 7: holes in them and stuff.

942
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: Like that, and that they hadn't sprouted yet either. I

943
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: think that was it.

944
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: Which when they went to the nursery, they probably put

945
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 5: them all in water and you can find out if

946
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: you're viable or not, like by floating them. Yeah, I

947
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: think the ones that aren't viable float I think I

948
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 5: think that's right.

949
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 7: It was very cool, but we did that. We went

950
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 7: two weeks ago. We were in Pennsylvania and I just

951
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 7: I got an email this morning kind of that quantified

952
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 7: what we did. Seventeen hundred feet of like ten foot

953
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 7: tall fencing was removed, Fourteen bluebird boxes were installed, two

954
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 7: wildlife planting fences were guarded.

955
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: You're on the air, can you.

956
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: Put the phone in front of your phone, in front

957
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: of the microphone, Steve the speaker.

958
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, there you go.

959
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: If if an acorn, if you find an acorn laying

960
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: on the ground a corn. Yeah, Me and Doug about

961
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: quit being friends over an acorn fight one time. Listen

962
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: or acorn argument. If you find an acorn laying on

963
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: the ground and his cap is still on him, does

964
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: that mean it was aborted and it's not viable? Complete conjecture, No,

965
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: but he qualified conjecture. Yeah. Uh, it means to me

966
00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: that it dropped early and that cap has to dryn't

967
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: fall off yet, but it could still be viable, Thanks Doug. Okay,

968
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: basically on.

969
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: From the top, we got we got sidetracked there.

970
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 7: So in this particular day two weeks ago in Pennsylvania,

971
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 7: we removed seventeen hundred feet of ten foot tall fencing

972
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 7: that was originally put up decades ago, back when the

973
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 7: tall about ten.

974
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Foot For what purpose was that?

975
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 7: So this is pretty interesting was this stage, this is

976
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 7: National Forest, Pennsylvania. Back twenty thirty years ago, deer populations

977
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 7: were so high that if you wanted any kind of

978
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 7: regrowth that all had they still do it. In this

979
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 7: case though, they don't want so.

980
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 1: They did an exclosure and it just decayed and yep,

981
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: and now it's keeping.

982
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 7: Deer another wildlife out of an area they want them

983
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 7: and got it. So we removed almost two thousand feet

984
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 7: of that, which was a job, planted fifty trees and shrubs,

985
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 7: installed fourteen bluebird boxes, planted twenty five button bush button bushes,

986
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 7: and then installed a new set of two hundred and

987
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 7: forty feet of fencing around some of these new plantings

988
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 7: to protect them in those early growth stages. So we've

989
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 7: done things like that. We were in Massachusetts outside of Boston.

990
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 7: We did collected literally a ton two thousand pounds of

991
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 7: trash on a WMA. We worked on aspenstin restorations in

992
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 7: northern Idaho.

993
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: We created I.

994
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 7: Think eighteen brush piles for small game habitat and improved

995
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 7: sixteen acres of openings in a state forest. In northern Michigan.

996
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 7: We did a great project in Mississippi on the I

997
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 7: can't remember the name of the national forest down there,

998
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 7: but planted something like two hundred and fifty apple trees,

999
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 7: worked on gopher tortoise habitat. There was all these different

1000
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 7: kinds of very cool projects. You learn a lot, you

1001
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 7: meet an incredible number of like minded people, and you

1002
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 7: come away from these events just full, like your cup

1003
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 7: is full all this new energy and really really cool stories.

1004
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 7: Like I've heard so many stories from people that went

1005
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 7: to an event like this, having never participated in something

1006
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 7: like that before, never really thought they'd want to, but

1007
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 7: heard about it like, oh sure, I'll go give it

1008
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 7: a shot. And it leads to the snowball effect with

1009
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 7: more and more things happening. So I just met a

1010
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 7: guy at didn't meet him, saw him again at the

1011
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 7: BHA rendezvous. He comes up to me and said, Hey,

1012
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember me. We met at

1013
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 7: the event outside of Boston. I never participated, never volunteered before,

1014
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 7: but I did it, came out there, came away from

1015
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 7: that feeling so charged up and wanted to do more.

1016
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 7: I decided to get involved with that local chapter of BHA.

1017
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 7: Asked if there's any more events, Well, there were some

1018
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 7: more things started going to those. I enjoyed that so

1019
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 7: much more. When I found out there was an opening

1020
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 7: on the state board, I joined and became a state

1021
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 7: board member. I did that for the rest of the year.

1022
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 7: I have become so charged up with what this has

1023
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 7: led to that now I'm retiring from the Navy. He's

1024
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 7: being discharged, is his and there in this honorably thank you.

1025
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 7: That's what I was looking for, and he is.

1026
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: They said you're private two into conservations.

1027
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 7: Well so much so that he is now pursuing a

1028
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 7: full time career in conservation. That wouldn't have happened if

1029
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 7: it hadn't been that. So there's been multiple things like

1030
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 7: that that are very exciting and we're hoping to keep

1031
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 7: it going. So we've done eight events in the last

1032
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 7: like thirteen months so far. Another one, the next one

1033
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 7: coming up is this August in northern Minnesota.

1034
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: What's that one?

1035
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 7: That is going to be doing two big projects just

1036
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 7: outside the boundary waters. UH One, we will be creating

1037
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 7: a access point for hunters and anglers and campers entering

1038
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 7: this part. It's on Vermilion Lake, I believe, so helping

1039
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 7: create a access point for recreators and then creating whitetail

1040
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 7: and other wildlife wintering habitat by planting conifer trees in

1041
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 7: a WMA I believe up there as well.

1042
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 11: And Mark if people want to get involved, where did

1043
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 11: they go on our website or on wire Yeah.

1044
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 7: So probably the simplest way is just a Google working

1045
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 7: for Wildlife Tour, or go to the mediat their website

1046
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 7: and search that too. There's an article there that links

1047
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: to the details for every one of the events so

1048
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 7: far this year. But yeah, I would love to see

1049
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 7: more folks at that Northern Minnesota one, and hopefully we'll

1050
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 7: do more next year.

1051
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: It's awesome, Mark, Thank you erk.

1052
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, and everybody go give Mark a listen or a

1054
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 11: watch on the new podcast Network channel on YouTube tube. Yeah,

1055
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 11: he's host of the Wire to Hunt podcast.

1056
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Got any target bucks going on we need to hear about? Well?

1057
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: I do have to say real quick for those paying

1058
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: attention to Mark. I had people right in to the

1059
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: ask cal email making sure Mark's okay.

1060
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Mark.

1061
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 3: Mark's in training running mode, so he's looking slim and trim,

1062
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: and then he's ben shaved his mustache off and better aerodynamic.

1063
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: And people went around him and came to me and said,

1064
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: I hope he's doing okay. He looks too skinny.

1065
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: So you've been running. You've been running so much you

1066
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: got skinny, I guess.

1067
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 7: So, yeah, yeah, what a mustache takes a club man

1068
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 7: takes ten running club, the skinny club. Skinny club. Yeah,

1069
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: ten pounds and ten years off, I guess with a mustache.

1070
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 7: So not not as fast as Yoanny, But I'm getting there.

1071
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: You don't know that, dude. Not as fast as the

1072
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: gals I was watching at the barber shop yesterday and

1073
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: the track and field turn it definitely not my goodness.

1074
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 7: I'm more slow, but long distance.

1075
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: A turtle.

1076
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: Okay, back to back to the bucks?

1077
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you got is it?

1078
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1079
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: Where are you at on Target? Bucks?

1080
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: How deep are you in the list of names that

1081
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: you have to choose from?

1082
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: How good are you too? I got another quart? Before

1083
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: you answer that, I got a question for you. How

1084
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: good are you? You know what? You start seeing? Bucks

1085
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: coming into velvet Yeah, Like the other day my neighbor

1086
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: sends me a picture looks promising, you know, and he

1087
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: just look it looks like two beer cans coming out

1088
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: of his head, all velvety. At what point do you

1089
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: feel at what point do you feel like you can

1090
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: look by what date, say, in the Midwest, by what

1091
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: date can you look at a velvety buck and go

1092
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: like that's looking good? Well?

1093
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 7: I was able to do that before I left Michigan

1094
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 7: last week in May, first week at June already.

1095
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you say, like by what I'm seeing, this

1096
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: is looking promising.

1097
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 7: Like I saw a buck I got pictures of and

1098
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 7: saw him probably June first ish, and I not only

1099
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 7: knew that buck's going to be a buck, but I

1100
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 7: knew the buck.

1101
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: What are you looking at?

1102
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 7: You're looking at Really what you're seeing is you develop

1103
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 7: like a reference point for how much a deer has

1104
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 7: grown by a typical point, and you'll start to see, like,

1105
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 7: man if a deer like I know from twenty eighteen

1106
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: that this certain buck was a five year old buck

1107
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 7: and he ended up being like X big, yeah, and

1108
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: I know he ended up like this. I'll look back

1109
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 7: at his pictures on May thirty first or June first,

1110
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 7: and I'll see and see what he had going on.

1111
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 7: If you do that enough times, you start to be

1112
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 7: able to identify it, Like I saw a buck the

1113
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 7: other day that you can see right now on you know,

1114
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 7: end of May, beginning of June, well past the ears,

1115
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 7: very substantial browtimes, a lot of masks starting to branch

1116
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 7: out into you know, three four points at the ends,

1117
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 7: and you can usually if you you know, if you

1118
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 7: if you hunt a small area, you see the same

1119
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 7: deer over and over and over again.

1120
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: That's a good point. So you I know, I know

1121
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: in the past what he looked like on May thirty first,

1122
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: and I know where he landed. Yeah, so if I

1123
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: can look at him now on May thirty.

1124
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 7: First, and it's like if you you know, people are

1125
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 7: always wondering, how can you how do you know it's

1126
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 7: that buck? How can you tell this buck's different from

1127
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 7: that one. It's just like if you have the tags,

1128
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 7: like if you see my that would do it. Like

1129
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 7: my two boys, if one.

1130
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: Of you, how do you know that's that's James.

1131
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 7: They don't look the same to any random person, but

1132
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 7: to me, it's so obvious. Well, when I see like

1133
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 7: the brow times of a deer, like I knew this buck.

1134
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 7: I saw it instantly. He's only got the beginning of

1135
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 7: his antlers, but I saw instantly recognize the brow time

1136
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 7: structure and width. I was like, Oh, that's this deer.

1137
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 7: H he's back, and so that deer.

1138
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: Probably helps it. He's like, what is his name?

1139
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 7: Bulldozer?

1140
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: And never ends hear.

1141
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: Me out.

1142
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 7: Ryan asked how the names come up? I don't name

1143
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 7: my deer anymore. I don't name your.

1144
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: Kids, name them the kids.

1145
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 7: The kids do it. So the kids get excited, they

1146
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 7: see a picture, we go out there and actually glass

1147
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 7: up the deer and watch deer, and then the kids

1148
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 7: just like, let's call them that. It's not for the kids.

1149
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 7: The kids feel like they feel like they're part of it.

1150
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Do they ever argue about it?

1151
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 7: Just between themselves, like they are you who gets to

1152
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 7: have the rights to a given deer's name?

1153
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: You want to see some fighting kids. I took my

1154
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 1: kids out bow fish and your day have only brought

1155
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: one bow.

1156
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 7: Good lord, Yeah, I can see that.

1157
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: Mark and I have been in my head.

1158
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: I was like, how many characters they want to deal with?

1159
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to take him. I was like, we're gonna

1160
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: catch car, We're gonna we're using for bait, make some

1161
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: fish cakes, whatever, so we'll just bring one bow. Just

1162
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: a fight.

1163
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark and I were talking the other week about

1164
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: getting together and doing some angling. But off of this conversation,

1165
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: I have an ulterior motive by it. I want to

1166
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: get your kids aside and be like, listen, yeah, here's

1167
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: a couple of good So Mark has to come back

1168
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: on this show and be like yeah, Queen Elizabeth is dead.

1169
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1170
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: What did bulldozer do to pick up the name bulldozer?

1171
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 7: Literally nothing. I think my son just probably was watching

1172
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 7: a TV show or saw a picture of a bulldozer

1173
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 7: twenty minutes beforehand, and then that deer was Bulldoz Free Association. Yes,

1174
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 7: my other like the other.

1175
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: I think.

1176
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 7: I told you guys, this's a few months ago.

1177
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: You try to kill that buck this year.

1178
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, he'll be the number one cool. My youngest son

1179
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 7: didn't really find it. I found the sheds but left

1180
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 7: them there and then went back later when he was around,

1181
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 7: helped him find it. And so he's very excited that

1182
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 7: he found bulldozers. Aler. That's just fun stuff with your kids,

1183
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 7: and yeah, it's it's very cool. Now like my kids

1184
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 7: are hunting with me, I can actually share these experiences

1185
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 7: with them in the wild. We the first deer I

1186
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 7: shot with my son, Everett, happened this past winter, and

1187
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 7: so he got to be there for the whole thing.

1188
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 7: Did amazing and helped gut it, helped drag it whole

1189
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 7: nine yards. But that buck bulldozer actually came out that

1190
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 7: same night, so we got to see that buck and

1191
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 7: counter that deer together. Waited till he left, then took

1192
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 7: a dough so very fun.

1193
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: Great, how old are your boys now?

1194
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 7: Six and four?

1195
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: You squirrel hunting yet? With him? Uh?

1196
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 7: Mark's squirreling, I would say, not like officially a squirrel hunting.

1197
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 7: He carries around a bb gun a lot and he's

1198
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 7: done a little damage. And then he's also been on

1199
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 7: groundhog duty with a seventeen which he has, which he's

1200
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 7: done very well with. We had a problem.

1201
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: You have plans for squirrel hunting.

1202
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. Yeah, cool, Yeah, good deal. Yeah

1203
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: he should come out and ground hunt. My boy's got

1204
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: a real hot groundhog, not groundhog, ground squirrel permission right now.

1205
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 7: He would love it.

1206
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: And they kind of turned it into like the he's

1207
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: that the people that have him doing this have turned

1208
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: it into the heat single handedly saving their horses through

1209
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: a rather convoluted process. He'll appreciate this rand because it

1210
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: involves a badger. Their take is that they got too

1211
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: many ground squirrels, which lures in badgers, which dig holes,

1212
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: which are going to kill the horses, therefore saving horses,

1213
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: which is all he needed to hear. What he needed

1214
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: to hear is he gets the hunt ground squirrels, but

1215
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: he needed a way to sell it to the old man.

1216
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: And upon hearing this heart rendering story about saving the

1217
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: family's horses, how could I say no, got him out

1218
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: of needing to eat those squirrels.

1219
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: Everybody radation. Okay, it's a job.

1220
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 7: So my kids have now I've I've kind of wrestled

1221
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 7: with that question, like, you know, I want them to

1222
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 7: get experience doing this things, doing these things, but at

1223
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 7: the same time, you know, you can't just wantingly shoot

1224
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 7: a bunch of stuff. So one part of the process now,

1225
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 7: like if we've shoot a groundhog, we have to dissect it,

1226
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 7: learn all about it, and then a fun new thing

1227
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 7: we're doing is seeing what happens afterwards. So we go

1228
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 7: and we'll leave like a part of the groundhog groundhog

1229
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 7: carcass out in the woods and then set up trail

1230
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 7: cameras on it to then watch and see what who's

1231
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 7: going to use this next? How does that change over

1232
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 7: two weeks versus six weeks? And that's been fun, that's

1233
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 7: really cool.

1234
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Mark was everybody's dad this world, the world

1235
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be such a mess. Yeah, Mark should be like

1236
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: science teacher.

1237
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 7: I'd like that. Mark we're done, Steve officially.

1238
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: Oh really out though, Yeah, never talked about when I

1239
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: had that done?

1240
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, ever tell you about when I had it done that?

1241
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: Well?

1242
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 7: No, this is I'm telling way too many people.

1243
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: How long ago did you have it done? Two years ago?

1244
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 9: Well?

1245
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 7: Which one?

1246
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1247
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 7: I had to have it done twice? Yeah, really Yeah.

1248
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: When they were telling me that, I'm like, well, how

1249
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: in the world is that possible?

1250
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how surprised you don't have a third kid.

1251
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: I've got super stuff. They couldn't kill it.

1252
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 7: They couldn't kill it, couldn't seal it up. I'm insatiable.

1253
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: Columbia.

1254
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, wait a minute, they did.

1255
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 7: We have to get to get stuff tested, you know,

1256
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 7: and my test never came back really and yeah.

1257
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 10: Twice same doctor.

1258
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 7: You'd be like, well I did seriously wonder like should

1259
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 7: I go to somebody else?

1260
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: That to me was the worst part about the whole problem.

1261
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't getting it done, and then like the couple

1262
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: days afterwards where you're stuck on the couch, but like

1263
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: every whatever it is three days where you gonna.

1264
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: Walk in there and be like turn your sample in.

1265
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, five six times, and then they're like I

1266
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: keep prying.

1267
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: I remember when they finally called me. I remember they

1268
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: said the guy that called me he was military and

1269
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: he thought I was military because I called him sir,

1270
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: and I had to clear that up eventually. But uh,

1271
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: he calls congratulations. What happened? Test came back negative? So

1272
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: you you kept throwing samples and they were positive. Yeah,

1273
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: so you had like a two You had like a

1274
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: by bifurcated canal.

1275
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 7: I don't know how it works, but didn't work right

1276
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 7: m And then it became a situation where I didn't

1277
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 7: want to get it done again because I didn't enjoy

1278
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 7: the first time. But I kept on being enjoy it.

1279
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did enjoy someone cutting into your scroll.

1280
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: Strangely tying a little not were able to work in

1281
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: like a two for one type of pricing.

1282
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: I should have but no, they charge you for the redo. Yeah,

1283
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: no way they did not.

1284
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 7: They did. Oh god, I mean insurance.

1285
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: Did he find a second tube?

1286
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 7: I apparently should have asked a lot more questions, but no,

1287
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 7: I just showed up, kind of a sullen look on

1288
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 7: my face, said all right here, I am doc, let's

1289
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 7: do it again. And he said like, yeah, this should

1290
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 7: definitely do it.

1291
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: This time, and it did. But what happened? I procrastinated, like,

1292
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: we're we're really going to get that.

1293
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't like going down there with those samples.

1294
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, no, Look, Kevin Wilkerson's thumb can grow back

1295
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: from nothing to a full thumb with a nail and everything.

1296
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: What then, I don't see.

1297
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, no, wonder you're so confident to

1298
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: shave your mustache.

1299
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: You know it's going to grow back. Trust we'll go back. Yeah,

1300
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: so no more little Mark Kenyon's on the horizon.

1301
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 7: No more.

1302
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Man, I miss those little babies now, man do you? Oh? Yeah,

1303
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't miss that. Earl kind of want to adopt

1304
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: a little baby.

1305
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 7: Maybe give me two years old, not six months.

1306
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 1: You see how bad I'm dying to talk about this book.

1307
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: Talk about the book.

1308
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 11: We got a new segment. Hold on before you start,

1309
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 11: or say the name. We gotta play the drop.

1310
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: You got the drop ready, Phil drops ready?

1311
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: You played it for everybody.

1312
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 13: It's time for Steve Reads books, so you ain't got

1313
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 13: to That's.

1314
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: Right, it's time for Steve Reads books. So you ain't

1315
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: got too nice.

1316
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you she didn't want to.

1317
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh you wanted her to I said, you need to

1318
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: say this, you need to say in a real sexy voice,

1319
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: it's time for Steve reads books, so you ain't got to.

1320
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: And she said it's time for Steve reads books. You

1321
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: don't have to. I said, no, no, no, no, good try

1322
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: because it's not appealing to the right audience. The kind

1323
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: of person that doesn't want to read books doesn't want

1324
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: to read books because they ain't got to, So you're

1325
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: trying to sell the right audience. This only came up

1326
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: because I read a book when we were on a

1327
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: live show. The live tour guy gave me a book,

1328
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: The Care of the Brush Country, and I realized, how

1329
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: could the world's greatest book I had never heard of?

1330
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: And I liked that book and I told people the

1331
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: best parts. And so I came with this idea that

1332
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: what I could do from now on, like as a

1333
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: future business line when I retire or whatever, is read

1334
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: books so you ain't got to this doozy listen.

1335
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: Above the Arctic circle.

1336
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh can I talk about something different? First? A friend

1337
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: of mine wrote this, look at this book. I'm not

1338
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: going to read this or you ain't got you because

1339
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: it's a guidebook. Bill Carmon who's a was with Rocky

1340
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: Mountain Note Foundation check this out. Talk about a novel

1341
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: idea fishing with Daniel Boone fly Fishing the Streams of

1342
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: an American Hero. So, if you're into Daniel Boone lore

1343
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: about like, oh, you know one day he killed seventeen

1344
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: bears on the Big Sandy or was raised on the

1345
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: Upper Yadkin whatever he lays out, hire and go fish

1346
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: those places so you can fish there and then read

1347
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: all about what happened there. So and so got killed

1348
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: right over yonder tryum peasant. That's a great idea for

1349
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 1: the book. If you live around if you live around Kentucky, Tennessee,

1350
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: Kentucky in particular, you like to fish, this will infuse

1351
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: all your fishing with all kinds of history.

1352
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: It's almost like a roadside geology type of Take right,

1353
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: I call him Bill Carmen William F.

1354
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: Carmon fly Fishing the Streams of an American Hero.

1355
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 3: And then you're kind of ripping off like cliffs notes

1356
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: for your your idea.

1357
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: Well, no, because I don't. Actually, when I do this segment,

1358
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: Steve Read's books that you ain't got to. I don't.

1359
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the parts that really grab me.

1360
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: It's not like a summation of buck goes on. But

1361
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this is a guy James A. Carroll

1362
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: The Alaska Journals of James A. Carroll, nineteen eleven nineteen

1363
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: twenty two. He's a cook. He cooks that logging camps

1364
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and eventually winds up up in Alaska. So

1365
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: he winds up in Alaska. I need to put my

1366
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: spectacles on. He winds up up in Alaska nineteen eleven

1367
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: seeking work as a cook, but becomes a fur trapper

1368
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: and has a lot of amazing adventures. And what I

1369
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: like about the book in particular is, uh, he looks

1370
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: at everything through a food lens. He's very astute about food.

1371
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: He gets into gets into. At one point one of

1372
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: his cooking techniques, he's bragging up how good he is

1373
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: at cooking. I could bake anything with the reflector, pies, biscuits, etc.

1374
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: I used to cook our beans in a bean hole.

1375
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Way for this, I used to cook our beans in

1376
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: a bean hole. This bean hole is made by digging

1377
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: a hole in the ground three feet by two feet.

1378
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: I would fill this hole full of small cut wood.

1379
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: When all the wood burned down to hot coals. I

1380
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: would rake a hole in these hot coals and set

1381
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: the bean pot into the center and rake the hot

1382
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: coals back over the pot. Then I would cover it

1383
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: all over a six or eight inches of dirt. You

1384
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: know why this turns out so good? He says, He

1385
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: buries it so deep. Quote none of the flavors could escape. Okay,

1386
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: ready for this. This is when he's up in Alaska.

1387
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: He's got a guy who hangs out. I would name Riyger,

1388
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: who raises hogs. Okay, in the early evening hours, Riger,

1389
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: this is all on the Yukon. In the early evening hours.

1390
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: Riger invited me down to the river bank. He wanted

1391
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: to show me how he fed his hogs. He wanted

1392
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: to show me how I fed his hogs. Right from

1393
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,759
Speaker 1: the river, Birch Creek teamed with fish of all kinds,

1394
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: predominantly pike. As soon as Riger reached for his fishing pole,

1395
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: it would alert all the pigs and they would come

1396
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: running from all directions. Sometimes they would run between his

1397
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: legs and nearly trip Riger. It seemed almost as soon

1398
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: as Rieger's spoon hit the water, a pike would grab it.

1399
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: Riger had a club to kill the fish as soon

1400
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: as he dragged it to shore. In the meantime, the

1401
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: pigs were all squealing up and down the bank waiting

1402
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: for their supper of fish. The hogs would fight over

1403
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: the pike. It would take him about an hour. Now

1404
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm skipping ahead. It would take him about an hour

1405
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: to feed his herd of hogs. Now he dubs this

1406
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: operation Riiger's Ranch.

1407
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 5: I wonder if those hogs are fishy, taste.

1408
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 1: Well, funny? You should ask listen to this tidbit. Okay,

1409
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: it so hold that in mind for mix. He has

1410
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 1: another there's another food tipping. No, I'll get to your question. Okay.

1411
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: They got a guy in their camp that doesn't want

1412
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: to eat bear meat. It says he can't eat bear meat.

1413
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: So so James Carroll, the author, kills a bear and

1414
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna serve it. But there's this guy that doesn't

1415
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: want to eat bear meat. So James Carroll cooks a

1416
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: bunch of bear meat. Says he had a camp hunter,

1417
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Hogshead was the camp hunter brings a small

1418
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: black bear in to camp. He's gonna make a pot

1419
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: roast out of the bear. Okay, so he cuts the

1420
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: bear's ribs into short ribs, puts him in a pot.

1421
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: The guy that comes in that doesn't like beary me

1422
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: asks what's in a pot. He tells him it's short

1423
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: ribs from Ryger's ranch. He says, no, it's not. Don't

1424
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: smell like fish. On the night we can't with mister Stead.

1425
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: He fried us up a lot of caribou steak for

1426
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: our supper. Being a cook myself, I observed how he

1427
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: went about preparing it. While Stead stood over the cookstove

1428
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: watching the steaks of caribou cook, he would comb his

1429
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: beard with the same fork he turned the steaks with.

1430
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: He did this unconsciously. I learned a new wrinkle about

1431
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: bread baking from Stead. He had a large batch of

1432
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: bread raising in a big tin dishpan with a yellow

1433
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: tom cat sleeping on top of the dough. I thought

1434
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: the cat was sleeping where it shouldn't, so I told

1435
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: Stead the cat was sleeping on his bread. Oh, that's nothing.

1436
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: There is always a dishcloth between the dough and the

1437
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: cat to keep the dough clean. He the narrator, complains

1438
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: to another guy about it. The guy says, that's where

1439
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: the cat always sleeps. Ready for this, there's a guy

1440
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: that splits wood in town and for a Yukon. He

1441
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: splits and sells wood to people in town, but someone

1442
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: keeps working the wood off his pile. He drills. He

1443
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: takes an augur bit and drills out a bunch of

1444
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: wood and packs it full of gunpowder and sets it

1445
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: on top of the pile. Quickly finds the thief, blows

1446
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: the burns the thief's house down. What else Here's so

1447
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna talk about. Then scratched it out, which

1448
01:15:55,200 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: makes me wonder what it was ready for this he

1449
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: would get as drunk as a boiled owl.

1450
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: I've only seen Mark is drunk as a boiled.

1451
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: Owl one time. The other day, I said in the

1452
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: Vicara of the Brush Country, Oh, Crinny forgot to remind me.

1453
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 10: I was just gonna remind you.

1454
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, there's two things from Vicaro of a Brush Country

1455
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: terms that I didn't tell people about. You know what

1456
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: you call it buck old mossy horns. You've made this

1457
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Yeah. I used to think that when you

1458
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: call the buck old mossy horns, people were losing track

1459
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: of the fact that bucks shed their antlers, and we

1460
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: would say that's where old mossy horns lives. Like what

1461
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: when you hear old mossy horns being from Michigan, what

1462
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: do you think you're saying about that buck?

1463
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 7: Big old swamp buck yep old is the biggest thing

1464
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 7: and so old and big that he had moscar on

1465
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 7: his antlers.

1466
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: You know what it means, well, I learned this in

1467
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: vicarea of the brush country. When a long horn gets old,

1468
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: the sheen on that horn starts to break apart, like

1469
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: he's got smooth horn, but growing from the base outward.

1470
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: Eventually it gets like that sheen breaks and it gets

1471
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: kind of crumbly over time from exposure to the sun

1472
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: and weather, and he becomes old mossy horns. He's so

1473
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: old that it becomes like a like a brittlely kind

1474
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: of hairy coating on that horn. That's what old mossy

1475
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: horns is.

1476
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 7: That is interesting.

1477
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: He also says, he says there there was more of

1478
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 1: something than fiddlers in hell. Drunk is a boiled owl.

1479
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: Here he's trapping, he traps. You know, you know what

1480
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: you hear about caribou herds, the porcupine herds of the

1481
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: Porcupine River. I remember one time I had three poor

1482
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: and damaged cross fox. One had no tail, one had

1483
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: no head, the third one had badly rubbed hips. I

1484
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: told Jack that I was going to try to make

1485
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: a whole cross fox from these three damaged ones. Jack

1486
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: didn't think much of the idea. One of the fox

1487
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: had a good head and shoulders, one had good hips,

1488
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: and the third one had a good tail in hips.

1489
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: I trimmed off all the ragged edges and rugged rubbed pieces.

1490
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: I was good at sewing, considering the short experience I

1491
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: had had the past winter. I simply sewed the head

1492
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: and shoulders together, and then I fastened on the good

1493
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: hips and tail and pulled it loosely over a stretcher.

1494
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: The whole fox pelt was probably a little shorter than

1495
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: average length. When we were showing our collection of furs

1496
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: to a fur barre, he picked up this tailor made

1497
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: cross fox, first, shook it out and said, now that's

1498
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: what I call a nice little cross You ready for this?

1499
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: After we arrived in town, I stayed at Jim Haley's

1500
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: roadhouse for a month. Old Jim was a great soup maker.

1501
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: He had a large don't laugh, he had a large

1502
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: seven gallon soup kettle that he always kept full of soup.

1503
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: It's not funny. I often wondered afterwards how he kept

1504
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: so much soup on hand without its souring on him.

1505
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: He must have kept adding soda to it. He used

1506
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: to put all kinds of small game in his suit,

1507
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: such as squirrels, ducks, ground squirrels, rabbits, and sometimes a

1508
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: piece of moot or caribou meat that the Indians happened

1509
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: to bring in. They were all good to Jim in

1510
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: this respect. Jim always had soup to serve any time

1511
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: of the day or night. One time, Jim had his

1512
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: soup pot and slop bucket sitting side by side. By mistake,

1513
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: a fellow by the name of White emptied his wash

1514
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: basin in Jim's soup pot instead of the slop bucket.

1515
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: His soup was still as popular as ever. Ready for this,

1516
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: I remember curly well and I stout that Schuman's overnight.

1517
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 1: We told him we would like to get an early

1518
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: start in the morning. Schumann said in his alarm clock

1519
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: to ring at four o'clock. When the alarm went off,

1520
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: it woke me up, too, so I lay awake in

1521
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: bed until breakfast was ready. Schumann got right up, made

1522
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: a hot fire in a big cast iron flat top

1523
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: heater he had. I watched Schumann all the time. He

1524
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't know it. First thing he did toward cooking our

1525
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: breakfast was to spit a mouthful of tobacco juice on

1526
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: top of his cast iron heater. After this burned out dry,

1527
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: he made our toast on the same stove. As soon

1528
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: as Curly got up, I told him of the incident.

1529
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: Schumann wanted to know why we were not hungry that morning.

1530
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: We told him we had drunk some bad whiskey the

1531
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: evening before, and that we would settle for a cup

1532
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: of coffee. Pay for this. That's not that interesting, Oh no,

1533
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: it is interesting. In August nineteen twelve and nineteen, it's

1534
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: a historical tidbit. In August nineteen twelve and nineteen thirteen,

1535
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: I decided to pull out for the trap line. The

1536
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: outfit of grub bean cook advanced me. The outfit of

1537
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: grub Okay, the outfit of food bean cook advanced me

1538
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: amounted to one hundred and thirty dollars. I never took

1539
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: any bacon or lard with me. I figured I'm using

1540
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: bear for bacon and lard of some old guys that Now,

1541
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: this guy's the toughest guy on the planet. But he's

1542
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: talking about the guys that are really tough. He says

1543
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: this of them, the old timers. So this is the

1544
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: old timers at that time. They lived tough, eight tough,

1545
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: and died hard. That's what I would like written on

1546
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: my tombstone when I'm buried in the Twin Lakes Cemetery.

1547
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Ready for another one. This guy is he's moose hunting,

1548
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: and he's talking about how he'll rake in moose pre

1549
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: rut still a to still use the day you take

1550
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: him scapula or an ant or whatever right rake brush.

1551
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: He believes this. He believes that moose. That this is

1552
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: an interesting belief. Brown bears, he says, hunt moose the

1553
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: same way. Sometimes a brown bear will fool a moose

1554
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: by clawing at a dry hollow tree. A moose, generally

1555
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: on the run, runs in the direction of such a sound.

1556
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: The bear charges the moose that has run right to him. Wow,

1557
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

1558
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 2: Remind me to tell you a hot tip when we're

1559
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: done here about moose. So I can't remember if I

1560
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: told you.

1561
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: He's checking their scouting for trapping sign and his buddy

1562
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: uh eagle. Every time they find a mink track, he

1563
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: gets down and smells that track. He says he can

1564
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: smell whether it's fresh. He's got sled dogs when he's trapping,

1565
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: and he feeds him mostly fish. After I got home,

1566
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: I did some fishing with a gaff hook and I

1567
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: hooked out five hundred dog salmon esz one day he

1568
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: hooks out eight hundred dog salmon with a.

1569
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 3: Gaff and he refers to it as some fishing. Did

1570
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: some fishing. I didn't dedicate a day to it.

1571
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: There was no law in fort Yukon in nineteen This

1572
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: is he's talking about the winter nineteen twelve nineteen thirteen,

1573
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: and they bring in a US Commissioner who now is

1574
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: supposed to assume control of fort Yukon. He comes into

1575
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: town and he's got a number of people that he's

1576
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: got for land injunctions. Basically, he's got people. He's got

1577
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: a couple of people he's going to prosecute for living

1578
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: on land they don't own. And he decides to prosecute

1579
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: some other people for illegal cohabitation living with their girlfriend.

1580
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: Does two indictments, subpoena's all fifty residents of Fort Yukon

1581
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: in the winter makes all fifty residents of fort Yukon

1582
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,480
Speaker 1: travel to Fairbanks for these trials. The jury in Fairbanks

1583
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: acquits everyone and they send the whole town back home.

1584
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: Geez got nothing out of it. When he left. He

1585
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: had some links he hadn't skinned yet, and he put

1586
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: him in his bed, wrapped up in his blanket. But

1587
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: he says he got back and there still frozen stiff.

1588
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: Maybe this I okay, talking about the Winner in nineteen ten,

1589
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: nineteen eleven. He's trapping. I got home early that evening.

1590
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: Before I left the cabin that morning, I had left

1591
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: a partly frozen lynx wrapped up in my bed. This

1592
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: was to prevent it from freezing harder. I wanted to

1593
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: get the lynx thought out so I could skin it out,

1594
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: for its pelt links have thousands of fleas on them.

1595
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Even when the flesh is partly frozen. As soon as

1596
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the cabin warms up, the fleas leave the cat and

1597
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: get all over one's blankets and clothes. The Marshal, this

1598
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: is the Marshal, there to serve him a subpoena. The

1599
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Marshal got quite a jolt when I unwrapped the dead

1600
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: frozen link from my bedding. David nearly laughed his head off.

1601
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: They both stayed with me that night. They told me

1602
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: in the morning that the fleas nearly ate them up

1603
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: alive and that they hadn't slept a wink all night

1604
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: from scratching. Well, I said, they kept me awake all

1605
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: night too. What's this here? He's drinking with a guy

1606
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: named Doc, and they got a bottle of whiskey and

1607
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: little glasses and he says Doc had a method. I

1608
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: don't need to drink it. Second, ex explain it. Doc

1609
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: had a method that he had a small shot and

1610
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: huge fingers, and he could wrap his fingers so tight

1611
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: around the shot glass that he said they acted as

1612
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: sideboards and he could fit more whiskey in his cup

1613
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: by creating extra volume around his cup just with his fingers,

1614
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: and then would walk away from the bottle. It's not funny.

1615
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: I like how the flea dealing just like implies that

1616
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 3: this is just the way it is.

1617
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 5: Like like, yep, I got bitter too, I.

1618
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Gotta deal with the fleas. There's no changing this method.

1619
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: Now he's married and he traps with his wife Fanny.

1620
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: They go out for a whole season Our catch for

1621
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: the season consisted of forty six links, twenty three minks

1622
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: seventy martin. He later goes on and say what he

1623
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: got at the fur buyer. So they go out for

1624
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: the winner, and I did one of those little inflation

1625
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: adjusters which are kind of kind of inaccurate. But he

1626
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: and his wife go out and trap. They catch again

1627
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: forty six links twenty three seventy martin with an inflation adjuster.

1628
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: They made forty four forty four thousand bucks that winter trapping.

1629
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of the ingenuity of these guys.

1630
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: It's the twelfth of April. Okay, they've gone up to

1631
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: trap this twelfth of April, and it's time to come home. Luckily,

1632
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: we had a large size toboggan. It was sixteen inches wide,

1633
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: nine feet long, and made of hickory boards twelve feet

1634
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: long and four inches wide. The stores those days sold

1635
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: this hickory and also maple boards to the trappers to

1636
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: make their toboggans with. I used to make my own.

1637
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I had a form to bend the boards on after

1638
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: they had been steamed. For a steamer. I used a

1639
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: five gallon oil can and two stove pipes. I fitted

1640
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: the pipe in one end of the can. Filled the

1641
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: can full of water and set it on a campfire

1642
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: to boil. I shoved the four boards down the stove

1643
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: pipe to the bottom of the can. I stuffed some

1644
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: gunny sacks in the cracks around the top of the

1645
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: stove pipe to keep the steam in. In about three hours,

1646
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 1: one could bend the steamed ends like rubber. After the

1647
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: boards dried on the form, I fastened them with cross pieces.

1648
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: I made a basket from a partly tanned big moose

1649
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: hide the full length of the toboggan. I had lash

1650
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: loops all around the top of the basket to lash

1651
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the load down. We loaded the lynx in the toboggan first.

1652
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: They were the most bulky, the martin and mink one

1653
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: could get in a big gunny sack. We had a

1654
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: top heavy load the next year. Check this out. The

1655
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: next year, gets how many links he catches. The whole

1656
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: country came alive with lynx and rabbits. Next year he

1657
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: catches two hundred and twenty five links with his wife

1658
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: in one season. So that was the amount of jingle

1659
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: he was making at that time. There's one other couple

1660
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: of things. Chucky Goners is too. I love it. Oh

1661
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Randa likes it.

1662
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm enthralled.

1663
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: Right now. Muskrats are worth a couple bucks, two dollars,

1664
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: three dollars nineteen nineteen, nineteen twenty. Guess what muskrats are

1665
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: bringing four dollars apiece?

1666
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 9: Wow.

1667
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: He and his wife spend a month traveling through the

1668
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: winter to trap the Crow River flats. They catch. They

1669
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: spend the whole winter, They spend the whole spring there

1670
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: trapping and shooting. They shoot sixteen They trap and shoot

1671
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred muskrats with three babies with them.

1672
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 5: Wow, jeez, that's serious cash.

1673
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: Yep. Last in I tell you is this this guy

1674
01:30:54,800 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: he traps with Curtis. Curtis had his own tent and

1675
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: stove and the grub line. Curtis traveled light. He lived

1676
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 1: off the country mostly when he arrived at the flats.

1677
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: This is when they go. They go. They actually travel in.

1678
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Here's what's funny. They're traveling by dog sled. They cross

1679
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: into Canada that they have to stop and go through customs.

1680
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: There's a camp that has two mounies there and they

1681
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: got to pay duties on all their stuff, and you

1682
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: pay duties on your sled. Dogs but you get the

1683
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: money back if they come back alive. And there's guys

1684
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: that live there just to monitor trappers coming over the

1685
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: pass from the Yukon to going to the Crow River

1686
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Flats to trap muskrats. Curtis had his own tent and

1687
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: stove and the grub line. Curtis traveled light. He lived

1688
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: off the country mostly. When he arrived at the flats,

1689
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: he had fifteen pounds of flour, five pounds of sugar,

1690
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: one can of lard, one pound of coffee, two pounds

1691
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: of butter, six cans of milk, one half pound of tea,

1692
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: and one pound of salt. He gave us his butter, coffee,

1693
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: and milk. We didn't want to take this from him,

1694
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: but he insisted we take it and said rats and

1695
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: flour were all he wanted to eat. He wouldn't accept

1696
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: anything for it. We used to have him eat with

1697
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: us quite often. It didn't take much to satisfy Curtis.

1698
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: I used to visit Curtis often to hear him talk.

1699
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: Our tents were close together. One day I was in

1700
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: his tent when he cooked a batch of rats. He

1701
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: dressed out ten rats and stuck them in a five

1702
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: gallon coal oil can. This coal oil can, and a

1703
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: couple of lard cans were all the cooking dishes he had.

1704
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: He put the rats in this five gallon can heads down,

1705
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: with their tails hanging over the sides of the can

1706
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: about four inches. He added water and let them boil

1707
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: for one hour. Then he reversed them tails down, heads up.

1708
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 1: This gave the tails a chance to cook. The tails

1709
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: of the rats are very good eating when boiled or

1710
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: cooked over a campfire. Eight tails with a small piece

1711
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: of bannock makes feed for a person. After cooking them

1712
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: another half hour, he would thicken the juice with a

1713
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: cup of flour, making a thick white gravy. This concoction

1714
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: would last Curtis for three days. Whenever he wanted to

1715
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: meat eat a meal, he would fork out of the

1716
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 1: can a whole rat, together with some white gravy. This

1717
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: didn't allow much variety, but Curtis seemed to relish it

1718
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: rats for breakfast, dinner, and supper. When a person is

1719
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: hungry and a long way from a store, anything tastes good,

1720
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: no matter how many times one eats the same thing.

1721
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Behind curtis sheet iron stove in his tent, he had

1722
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: a pile of rat bones as big as a large

1723
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: rat house. These were the bones from all the rat

1724
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: he had eaten recently. The last thing I'll tell you

1725
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: about Curtis. Yeah, when they get done with trapping season,

1726
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: they go back for Yukon. Curtis brings two large gunny

1727
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 1: sacks full of dried rats that he can eat during

1728
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: the summer.

1729
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 11: I think stopped a recipe like this and the next

1730
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 11: meat eater outdoor cookbook or cookbook, and then when we

1731
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 11: do like a podcast like we did this year, Randall

1732
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 11: can be the rep cooker.

1733
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we should just bring him in and

1734
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 4: cook him right here and get dirt in on it.

1735
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: Dirt would love Steve.

1736
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 7: When you read a book just for yourself, not for

1737
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 7: the podcast.

1738
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Do you I wasn't reading it for the book, Okay.

1739
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: So my questions.

1740
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 7: I can kind of see over your shoulder though, like

1741
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 7: you've notated it, You've you've got out, you've got lines

1742
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 7: on the side, you've got stars, you've got some things underline.

1743
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 7: Do you do that in any book you read? Or

1744
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 7: just did you come back to this book and say, oh,

1745
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 7: I want to talk about this piece, this piece.

1746
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, if I don't have my pencil hand my penhandy,

1747
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: I just fold all the pages. Then they come back

1748
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: and mark it. But I drenint like to read with

1749
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: my pen interesting and mark all the parts that titlate

1750
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: me it's a great word.

1751
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 11: And then remember everybody, that was a segment called.

1752
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so sorry, oh sorry, it's.

1753
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 13: Time for Steve Read's books, so you ain't got to

1754
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 13: That'll be a recurring segment.

1755
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: Part of why I'm reading this book is we were

1756
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: working on, you know, our Metia's American History. So we

1757
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: did the Long Hunters, the next we're going to do

1758
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: the mountain Men. After the Mountain then we're going to

1759
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: do the Buffalo Hide Hunters. At some point we have

1760
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: four or five of them to go. We have five

1761
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 1: to go, five including the mountain Men. At some point

1762
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: I want to do the Last Frontier and like they

1763
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: have their bracketed. So the Long Hunters is seventeen sixty

1764
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 1: six to seventeen seventy, yeah.

1765
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 4: Sixty sixty one or sixty three to seventy five, I don't.

1766
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Remember what we called it. The Mountain then will probably

1767
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: be eighteen o five to eighteen thirty two. And when

1768
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: we do the Last Frontier, I'm thinking I'm thinking gold

1769
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: Rush to statehood, so bigger, a bigger chunk of time.

1770
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Some kind of that was kind of in thinking about

1771
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 1: that reading that book.

1772
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: What happens to these books after you've read them? Do

1773
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 2: you keep every book that you get your hands on

1774
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 2: and reading.

1775
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm keeping that son of a bitch, that's right.

1776
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking they could be good for the auction house,

1777
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 2: especially with your oh annotation.

1778
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great book, man. Oh. Dirk Durham from

1779
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: Phelps Game calls the bugler the bugler. Do you see

1780
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: this thing he sent in?

1781
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: Nope.

1782
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Some guys goofing on their body near Lewis Town, Idaho,

1783
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: took out a billboard with their buddy's face on it.

1784
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: He says, here's the deal. Need archery lessons call literally

1785
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: anyone but Bob.

1786
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 6: Huge.

1787
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 1: They put it on. They put it on his route

1788
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: to work.

1789
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 2: What does Bob do for work?

1790
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: Well, it is not very successful. Hunters his problem, so

1791
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: they're just dogging on him. They put his face, they

1792
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 1: left off his last name. Need archery lessons call literally

1793
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: anyone but Bob.

1794
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 4: And you know, you've got to think about how many

1795
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 4: people have joked about doing that to one of their buddies.

1796
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 4: But these guys carried it out, saw it to.

1797
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Actually put money where their mouth is put.

1798
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 2: What that costs him?

1799
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: Well, seth where we go? Can you update us on

1800
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the A frame?

1801
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, things are happening talking about what happened. So

1802
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 5: back in early December, I think it was a tree

1803
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 5: fell on my shitty old check in Alaska.

1804
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Cut a big old groove out of it, big old hole. Yeah,

1805
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: it messed a lot.

1806
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 5: It's kind of a blessing in disguise because there well

1807
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 5: there was a lot of rot issues that I didn't

1808
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 5: know about that had been covered up by certain things.

1809
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: And when like the roof, well when the tree hit,

1810
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: it just broke everything loose. But we have.

1811
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 5: A real good buddy of ours, Dustin Olson's going up

1812
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 5: here in a couple of weeks to basically fix everything

1813
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 5: that needs fixed by the summer we get up. By

1814
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 5: the time we get there in the summer, it should

1815
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 5: have a front and a back porch.

1816
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 13: Oh.

1817
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: So he's going up just to work.

1818
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going for two weeks, him and someboddiess a.

1819
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 5: He's a really good contractor, does great work. We we

1820
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 5: met him through he he had he used to go

1821
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 5: up there and still does and work for the fishing

1822
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 5: lodge in the summer doing doing well. Not as he

1823
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 5: go up in the spring, just do contracting work. And

1824
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 5: uh yeah, kind of met him. He reached out to

1825
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 5: Kelsey one time and said, hey, like, if you guys

1826
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 5: need any help with anything up there, let me know.

1827
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: That's great.

1828
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 5: He's going to root out all the rot Yeah, he's

1829
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 5: basically replacing the front in the back wall of the

1830
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 5: a frame, fixing the roof, and putting the front and

1831
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 5: back porch on it.

1832
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 3: So you only have two more walls to go after this, the.

1833
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: Front rotten one, in the back rotten one, right, and

1834
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: then the reft rest is the broken the broken roof,

1835
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: which the.

1836
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 5: Roof wasn't rotten. Well, their spot. They had sky lights

1837
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 5: in it, which is a terrible if you're ever building

1838
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 5: a place in Southeast Alaska, don't put the skylights in

1839
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 5: your roof. So the beams around those were rotten. He's

1840
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 5: pulling those out.

1841
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: It's like, I wonder if that's gonna start leaking.

1842
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1843
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, well my dad would recommend today you never in

1844
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 2: any home but skylight.

1845
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Especially in a place that gets thirteen feet of rain.

1846
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. So yeah, it's gonna be a different looking place

1847
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 5: when we get up there.

1848
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: Have you hit a point where you where you did

1849
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: well regret it? Yeah? No so but even after the

1850
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: tree fell on it, did you think yourself, I wish

1851
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: I would have never bought a cabin.

1852
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 5: No, I told myself from day one, as long as

1853
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: the you know, as long as we own the land,

1854
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 5: like I'm happy because I eventually they might take a while,

1855
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 5: but eventually, like when the when the tree hit, I

1856
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 5: was like, this sucks, but we're still own the land,

1857
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 5: and it's like not the end of our time there.

1858
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,959
Speaker 5: M like, no matter how long it takes, we'll eventually

1859
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 5: like rebuild something just because that I mean, that's like

1860
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 5: my favorite place on Earth.

1861
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 2: And that place is always work and so you know

1862
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: that going into it. Yeah, tree or not tree, you

1863
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: go up there and do a bunch of work and

1864
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 2: as a lifestyle you like it.

1865
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1866
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 5: And people might be like, how like we spend three

1867
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 5: Like this year, we're gonna spend three weeks up there,

1868
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 5: Like how can you justify doing all that just to

1869
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 5: spend three weeks at a place?

1870
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 9: You learn?

1871
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: Someone you don't know.

1872
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 5: Until you actually experience it, you'll never understand it.

1873
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, if you're you know, you got

1874
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: you gotta keep up your mental acuity as you get older. Yeah,

1875
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: like the way you know you gotta stay engaged. Now

1876
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: if you grow up not in that marine environment, the

1877
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: amount of stuff you have to learn, I think it's

1878
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, way better reading book. I mean I

1879
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: like reading books. You saw me, But to go like, well,

1880
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, you could grow up not

1881
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: there and you go there and you have to learn

1882
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: all about everything that it takes to be there. Yep,

1883
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 1: that's good for.

1884
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 2: Your head totally.

1885
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: I think you have to learn a lot. Oh yeah,

1886
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: you have to learn basically stretches your brain back out again.

1887
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1888
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1889
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 5: And you learn how to build stuff in ways that

1890
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 5: last a long time. You learn how to schedule your

1891
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 5: day out because you live and die by the tide

1892
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 5: up there.

1893
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: You learn how to make do with that you can't

1894
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: run to the store. Yeah, you got to make something.

1895
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Looking around for rusty nails and stuff. I think I

1896
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 1: did see a rusty bent up nail over there, probably, Yeah. Yeah.

1897
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: You learn to dig through your neighbor's place for stuff.

1898
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: You try to remember where you saw a garbage you know,

1899
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: and now I wish you had your where you put

1900
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: garbage that you wish you had to have thrown out

1901
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: because you want it back now.

1902
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you second guests throwing out everything or burning any thing.

1903
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1904
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 5: It's like, should I burn that half rotten two by four?

1905
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 5: I might be able to use it somewhere, you.

1906
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 1: Know, my Jimmy Carter, my USS Jimmy Carter hat. Yeah,

1907
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 1: I found it beach Combe, a USS Jimmy Carter hat.

1908
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: Kept it. It got real moldy, and I always looked at it,

1909
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: and it's always like kind of like do you get

1910
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 1: rid of stuff? Do you not get rid of stuff

1911
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: when it gets moldy or whatever? One day I put

1912
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,799
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Carter hat on top of a burn pile

1913
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 1: soaked with gas. This is the truth. I was like,

1914
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of burn that hat, which decision I did not take. Lightly,

1915
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: had a pile of garbage soaked with gas. Put the

1916
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: hat on top. Put a lighter to that pile. You know,

1917
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: you know it explodes, you know, yeah, shouldn't you? Shot

1918
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: that hat off the pile and it landed over yonder

1919
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: just sign from above. I wear that hat every time

1920
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm there now some.

1921
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 5: It was like, God, maybe that maybe Jimmy Carter's soul

1922
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 5: is trapped in that hat and that's how he's living.

1923
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: So it was God saying, don't burn that hat.

1924
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I guess you must. That must have

1925
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 2: happened since the last time I've been there, because I

1926
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: was gonna say, I've never seen you wear that hat.

1927
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: I wear it now after that happened. I know when

1928
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: I know a sign when I see one.

1929
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 5: You wear that, and then when you get to burn

1930
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 5: and stuff you put on that.

1931
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: My note, I have a flame over of helicopter suit.

1932
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: What do they call that stuff? No man? Yeah, yeah,

1933
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: we burned so much stuff. We bought that place. Me

1934
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 1: and uh Danny both have flameproof suits. We won't get

1935
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 1: from every day. We just zip up our flameproof suits

1936
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: and burn stuff. I had an uncle die burning leaves,

1937
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: not really my uncle, but we call them our uncle.

1938
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 5: I have a pile of stuff to burn this summer.

1939
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 11: Well, we'll get some updates from up there, because you

1940
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 11: guys are gonna be recording some two podcasts, so maybe

1941
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 11: maybe you'll.

1942
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:57,520
Speaker 10: Do one from that A frame.

1943
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Stuff. I wouldn't burn that, Sorry, Yanny, go ahead, you

1944
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: should wear your hat. I will wear my hat uss

1945
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, it's a nuclear sub all right. Thanks everybody,

1946
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: give me, give me.

1947
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 6: A little of fear. Something that inspired put me, put

1948
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 6: me all. That's what lies my fire. We know when

1949
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 6: ros Grove we would be undumb. We will be part

1950
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 6: of the gray story of how to live. Like when

1951
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 6: you have got our bad cotry or paid up. We're

1952
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 6: gonna bring you here, then us that you have, let

1953
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 6: us be your friend.

1954
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 15: What you give to cor Ristle allows us to survive sunrise.

1955
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 2: Who said all.

1956
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 16: Brown vote a down good ride, turn dust in to

1957
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 16: a founder ride down ureas.

1958
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 17: We've seen a lot of beauty, because we've seen a

1959
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 17: lot of scene.

1960
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 6: Rise in line, never friandy time disappears. Where we're going

1961
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 6: with what we've gotta do, we'll leave denied.

1962
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: By our rear.

1963
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 6: W been cotry over. Now we're gonna breathe you in

1964
01:47:53,800 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 6: the song that you have. Let us be your friend.

1965
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 6: What you gilt to your rise soup.

1966
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: Allows us to survive.

1967
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 6: Sun rise. Go said all round.

1968
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 17: For the damn good ride, when you see all the

1969
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 17: bus and be in the money trees to the fall.

1970
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 15: We decide we ain't gonna be no, Johnny apple.

1971
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 8: Seed, pladder ladder, bring us, bring us a lift to ray.

1972
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 6: Show us walk and grow.

1973
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 16: All ours to him to the truth, never get me.

1974
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 6: We fall back, cortrypen. Now we're gonna breathe you in

1975
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 6: the are so that you are. Let us be your friend.

1976
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 6: Dot you give to our rise. Souf allows us to survive.

1977
01:49:53,920 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 9: Time rise and said all round, go to dawn, you ride, go.

1978
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 6: To down bird ride, got it down ride boo