1 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to an agonizing 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: episode of the podcast. I can't even believe. I believe 3 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: we're doing this again. When will it stop? When will 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: it end? Is it cooked? Is it cooked? I don't 5 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: We're not gonna do a normal intro because yeah, bad. 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: What what's going on? Man? Oh? So bad? I don't know. 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Follow us Instagram, Twitter, You're taking it, talk Spotify, listen, YouTube. 8 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: Watch it. It's terrible. It's really bad. 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: It's just I wish this Mets team could just be 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: normal for a second. They had to go be the 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: worst team baseball and then be the best team baseball, 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: and now there's one of the worst teams again. It's 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: just there's no rhyme, there's no reason, there's nothing to 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: take us from game to game. Tuesday it was a 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: bysmalst one the worst games they played all year. There's 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: one of the worst losses, blowing a five run lead 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: to the A's. I told you, I told you not 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: that bad. They really aren't that bad. 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: No, they are bad. The bad. They're that bad because 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: the Mets horendously and they and they won. That's why 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the Mets played. These are still a bad baseball team. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I won't let you spin that on people. There's seven 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: games over five hundred since y'all I first, wow, cool 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: and the Mets were ten games above five hundred at 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: one point, like cool. 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: We just got baseball images that proceed unfortunate events. Like 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: everything that just happened today was disgustingly. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Did they put they put hoc two girl? Yeah, of course, 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: why not? 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: Because what other baseball team would invite that person to 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: go and throw the first pitch for them? The viral 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: sensation actually virusation. 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I just it felt like this was going to be fine, 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: Like it felt like we were just going to cruise 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: to the win on Thursday, and the episode is gonna 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: be cool, and then we have a nice vibe winning 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: a series, going into the Marlins, be able to beat 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the shit out of them, and then just be okay 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: and just win two series in a row and be 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: totally back on track before the huge series against the 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Oarls and the big. 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Road trip next weekend. But it just didn't happen. It 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: just didn't happen. And now, oh, I don't, I don't know. 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just sad because the last two weeks, I 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: don't really see the light right now anymore. With this 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: situation as well, as the Braids are playing the Dimebacks 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: and the Padres don't lose ever, They're they're gonna face. 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna face in the NLCS if they don't face 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: each other in the wildcard round. 50 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Stupid. Yeah, I damn, I just I just realized that 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: and got mad about that, that the Braids are gonna 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: get to play the Brewers. I know, dime Backs and 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the Padre is gonna play each other and Ron Kuno 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: juniors hurt and they're gonna win the World Series because 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: it happens that this is how it goes. They're getting 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: hot at the right time. I know, but just I know, 57 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Trying to zoom out too much. Sorry, 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: if you guys listening, you want some positivity, but like 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: there's no positivity looking at the Mets roster and looking 60 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: at those teams, even looking at the Giants who are 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: are playing a little better of late. They have a 62 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: great starting five rotation right now, It's just I can't, 63 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: I don't see the path anymore. I really saw the 65 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: path two weeks ago before this West Coast trip and 66 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: then losing this series really jammed into me, like I 67 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: just don't I no longer see the path. 68 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 69 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I really thought Austin Adams was going to like wake 70 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: the sleeping Giant, and it felt like he did because 71 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: in Game two they came out and they just kind 72 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: of smacked the DA's around. But then Game three, like 73 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: just the they kind of did smack the DA's around. 74 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: But it's impossible to win a baseball game despite being 75 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: up five runs when you walk eleven patters. And this 76 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: has been a problem with the Mets all year. Walks Walks, 77 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: Walks and Tona didn't have it from the start. It 78 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: was very obvious. It's felt like every getting bases loaded 79 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: somehow got out of it. It was it was brutal. 80 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: They also hit the batter, so they put twelve men 81 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: on for free. 82 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: This was the longest game Thursday in the pitchclock era, 83 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: longest nine inning game in the pitchclock era, three hours 84 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: and forty five minutes. This game was so long, and 85 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: it was camp dated to the field, so a bunch 86 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: of kids of the ear at their camps. Middle of 87 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: the six and seven innings, all the kids were leaving 88 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: because they had to back on those buses by four 89 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: thirty and they had to get back home because that 90 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: was when camp ends, and they can't see the end 91 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: of the baseball game. 92 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: It was just excruciating. Ronnie Gary multiple times called it 93 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: the slog. It was a slog. This was a painful 94 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: game to be a part of the them. Watch the 95 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Mets lost the game where they knocked the other pitcher 96 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: out in the third inning. Know, they spoke crazy, God, 97 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I think I used. 98 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: It's just also just so much pain because I was 99 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: I was grinding out these notes and it was like 100 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: things are good. 101 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: It was almost it was fine, nothing nothing Mets by 102 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: that time. 103 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, Tuesday was terrible, we could flush 104 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: the tape, no big deal. Great games on Wednesday and 105 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: Thursday back on track, beat the Marlins, whatever. And that 106 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: is just not It just isn't like that. It totally 107 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: changes the tone of the episode. It changed the tone 108 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: of the season that they couldn't come home and get right. 109 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: They had the off day and it didn't help at all. 110 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: And now this team is still just dragging their feet 111 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: and not able to do it. 112 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm laughing because I can see when it happened. 113 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Notes because James like hawk to a girl. Ha ha 114 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: ha ha ha. I know Bader said, what's up Miss 115 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Drew Smith? On days like these, That's that's when you 116 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: knew the mess. We're playing really well and then all 117 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden there's like kin Tana, uh, like, what's 118 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: going on? It just happened right in the middle of it. 119 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: And it happened also. I listened to begin his. 120 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Game on the radio and how we just couldn't stop 121 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: talking about how much he loves watching Guyy Kintana. Such 122 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: a change of tones from every other pitcher we've seen 123 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: in the league. He's like, this is someone who actually 124 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: knows how to pitch, moves the ball to every quadrant. 125 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: But you know what else happened. Kantana has no stuff. 126 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: He's scared to throw strikes. He's because this is I 127 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: got an argument doing to I arguement, just like back 128 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: in where like Knana can't nibble against these eight hitters 129 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: to have a two hundred bating average runers coring position. Again, 130 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: I'll say that every episode that don't matter, the batting 131 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: over runers corning position doesn't matter at all. 132 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 1: But Katan has always be nibbling. He's aways been nibbler 133 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: because he's yeah, he's a sinker, change up guy, and 134 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: that's his thing. If he was if he was throwing 135 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: pitches in the heart of his own he would get pelty. 136 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: He would been at a major league baseball seven years ago. 137 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: But he has a really good command. When you have 138 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: good command, that gets confused with nibbling, because sometimes your 139 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: commands a little bit off, that looks like a nibble. 140 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: If he's trying to throw strikes, he's not trying to 141 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: throw a ball, So it's just he can't trust this 142 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: stuff enough. And again this as lineup I told you today, 143 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: it's really not that bad, really isn't. 144 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you the lineup is not that bad. 145 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: That the top of the other is good fucking JJ. 146 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: But day, what the ballplayer this guy is. He was 147 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: all over the field this series and now that Grand 148 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: Slam also was such a little nubby home run too, 149 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't even he stole he stole his first 150 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: base the season. 151 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Later in the game. It's just like where this guy kid, 152 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: I've literally never hit a home run like that, like 153 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: off the inside of the bat, down the right field line. 154 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Every time the Mets did the ball down the right 155 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: field line foul ball home run like it's a guarantee. 156 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: It's impressive how many foul all home runs they hit 157 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: from the left hand side, but like one of those recently. Actually, 158 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: I think Jeff McNeil is the only guy. I think 159 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: he's the one who sneaks those out into that spot. 160 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't think we've ever hit one there. It's uh. 161 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 1: It was frustrating because we needed to shut down inning 162 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: so badly after Ventos hit his second home run thing 163 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: the game. Viano's is a beast. Loved the way that 164 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: he's swinging the bats. Still needed to shut down in 165 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: and King Tana just went bases loaded again. They were 166 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: talking about him on S and WY a lot and 167 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of like lauding a little bit how well he's 168 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: been pitching, and kind of the same ilk of what 169 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: you said with Howie. Were like, man, it's just a 170 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: different picture, you know everything, especially these days, you're seeing 171 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: all velo and he doesn't do it with vil. He 172 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: does it with the command and preciseness and changing speeds 173 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: and using that curveball and whatever they were saying and nonsense. 174 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I remember looking at my dad because I'm home in 175 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: New Jersey and we were watching the game together and 176 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but like, who cares. I was like, 177 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: because if Atana didn't like exactly like you said, if 178 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: he threw strikes, he'd be out of Major League Baseball 179 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: because you'd be getting pieced up. And when he gets 180 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: behind like this, when he starts walking guys, he has 181 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: to throw strikes and he gets pieced up. That's why 182 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: we care so much about on this podcast, stuff, velo, movement, 183 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: all these kind of things, because even when you're off 184 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: with those like you saw with Mason Miller. Mason Miller 185 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: was disgusting at the end of this game, but he 186 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: started to lose it towards the end because he was 187 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: close to forty pitches, but it didn't really matter because 188 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: his off is still one hundred with movement with a 189 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: wicked slider. Because everything is so good, and that's why 190 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: we just stress so much. How like kin Tana all 191 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: intents and purposes has had an idea. This isn't like 192 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: a this is not a personal shot at him or anything, 193 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: but like this is. There was just a lot of 194 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: conversations I guess on the radio too, but even on 195 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: TV today about pitching. What's the word, I'm looking for 196 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: philosophies and how I mean You saw that ESPN article 197 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: from Jesse Rodgers drop today about the possibility of the 198 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: sixth inning minimum picture rule that Major League Baseball is 199 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: looking into, which I think is an absolute disgrace and terrible, 200 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: And the conversation was basically, like, we need more guys 201 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: like King Tana's like, no, no, no, no, you actually need 202 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: so many less guys like King Tana. Again, look at 203 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the winning baseball teams. They don't have almost any of 204 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: those guys. 205 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Now, I push back that like guys like in Tyne 206 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: are not a bad thing, like there is always gonna 207 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: be room based for five yes, but yeah, the problem 208 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: is with guys like Intana, where it's its location based game. 209 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Catazo's never even had good command. He's just again he 210 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 2: just he hangs around the edges. He's an edge lord 211 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: like that that's his thing. 212 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: Right. 213 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: But and he even today you said he got piece up. 214 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: He didn't really ge pieced up. He only gave up 215 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: four hard hit balls. One of them was ninety five 216 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: miles an hour. 217 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: It's just that lay home run, that double by Nevin 218 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: earlier that inning. So it's just like it again, it's 219 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: just it's around the zone. It's a thirty five percent 220 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: zone rate, Like that's that's something I think that's missed 221 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: where it's like there are guys who are these command 222 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: artistans are still in today's game. But justin Steel, Yeah. 223 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Justin Steel is incredible. I love watching justin Steel pitch. Also, 224 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: it's about being able to throw all those pitches for 225 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: strikes like in this game, can Tom only through change 226 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: up for strikes fifteen percent of the time four team 227 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: or forty percent at the time, sinker thirty seven percent. 228 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: At the time, that curveball was the only one he 229 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: was getting, but still wasn't what the people. 230 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Finally, I think the league has now swung back. We 231 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: gave to a lot of credit for that curveball becoming 232 00:08:59,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: the primary pit. 233 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: He was threw that ball fifty five percent of the 234 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: time in twenty in the strikes on fifty five percent 235 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: of the time he threw twenty two times in total, 236 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: and the a swung at fourteen times because now they've adjusted. 237 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: So I guess whoever the one person doing advanced scating 238 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: for the A's told them that Kin throws this curve 239 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: ball on the zone all the time. Now and every 240 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: time they're looking at chops there ready for us. So 241 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: with that pitch wasn't able to help him get ahead. 242 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: Then he was just chasing because then against the righties, 243 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: he can't really throw that change of very often fastball. 244 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: It's it's not very good. He threw it, it's ninety 245 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: miles an hour. It's just it's bad. And again it's 246 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: like we can't we can't even yell about like the 247 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: offense because the offense actually showed up in this series 248 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: besides Game one, which that's gonna happen. You're gonna you're 249 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna get cold every once in a while like they 250 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: have been. But Game two and three, they hit the 251 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: ball really well, like they had good at bats, Mark 252 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Vienzo sitting home runs, McNeil getting some hits, Pete a. 253 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Lonzo was four for four during one of the games. 254 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Like the offense was much better. It was just, of course, 255 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: now the pitching let us down, and it's just like, 256 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, this it's happening again. It's a groundhog's day. 257 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: From the beginning of the year a little bit with 258 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: this past like week and a half. 259 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the pitch at the end of the day 260 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: this is not a pitching staff you'll look at being like, oh, 261 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: this is a good one. We talked about less up 262 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: so I talked about when ESPN Radio on Monday, that's 263 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: just a Tuesday Monday, and they won't be drafted. Hampton's 264 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Monday Monday that when you get cold as a baseball team, 265 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: you have to look towards your rotation because rotation, those 266 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: are your stoppers. That's where that's where momentum starts to 267 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: stop some baseball. And this team just doesn't have a 268 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: guy who can really lean on or bank on you. 269 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Just they don't. 270 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: It's a lot of threes, fours, five since rotation right now, 271 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: which just is and it does feel like this entire 272 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: the air got taken out of his entire season when 273 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: kodes Sanga came back and then right away got hurt 274 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: because he was the one who's going to change the 275 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: idea that those are right after Scott got hurt. He's 276 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: the only other guy this season along with I guess 277 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Mania for the last couple weeks to seven, you know, 278 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: up and down whatever, who's able to flash like I 279 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: can be someone who can win us a game as 280 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: a starting pitcher. Because Katana isn't that Kantan's more a 281 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: picture that will like just pitch a good game. 282 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: He's not. I don't know. 283 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Just Katana Blackburn had the first really bad start, which 284 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: you again, this was gonna happen, Like Paul Blackburn is 285 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: not an all star. He's not as we like, he's 286 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: gonna get a couple quality starts. We're going to enjoy them. 287 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: I had a couple. This one he got smoked by 288 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: the team that knew him the best. It's just this, 289 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: this rotation was never going to be one that won 290 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: his games. There was gonna be one that had to 291 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: keep us in them, and the offense had to win 292 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: the games, which is hard to do that game after game, 293 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: and now when we have this offense not really clicking 294 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: right now, brand Nemo didn't get into the game, and 295 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: he never got into the game. Tyrone Taylor came up 296 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: to pinch other for Jesse Winker set Brand, which tell 297 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: I guess what they. 298 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Said again stomach issues. So like to be fair, maybe 299 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: he had to poop, Like maybe he's like if I 300 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: walk out on the field, like I might be shaking 301 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: my pants. I can't do that. 302 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: Maybe he'd row chicken again. But It's just this is 303 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: this is they are who we thought they were. This 304 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: is a baseball doesn't have such baseball team. They are 305 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: that they were, that they will be that in the future. 306 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Like I had people I mentioned this week being like, 307 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, this season is back on, like, oh 308 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: my god, this team is dead again. 309 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: Where I'm like, this team is the same team they 310 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: were today, as they were yesterday, as they were two 311 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: months ago, four months ago, three months like three months ago, 312 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: and next month is a five hundred baseball team. We 313 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: had the miracle that happened where we got super hot. 314 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: We could have rolled a nuclear hot streak just to 315 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: push our wintel up a little bit. But now we 316 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: give it all back and his team's exactly back to 317 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: where we started. And now this is just what we are. 318 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: We're right now with three games over five hundred. After 319 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: the weekend, May might still we might be four games 320 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: over one hundred. I have two games over five hundred. 321 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: You know, it's cap at the end of the year, 322 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna be four or five games over five hundred, 323 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: maybe maybe two games maybe exactly five hundred. Its team 324 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: going eighty one to eighty one be so perfect. That's 325 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: just exactly the way this purgatory season has to end. 326 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: But it's just that's just it. That's what the team is. 327 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, it sucks. You would you want to 328 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: be teams like the A's, but I don't know. You 329 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: swept the Padres is the get back for that. Baseball 330 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: always fucking evens out, Like I just it's a whole swept. 331 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: The Padres swept the Yankees, like this whole thing always 332 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: comes back together. This is baseball, guys, this is life, 333 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Like this is it. Yeah, but it sucks and I 334 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: hate it. But I also love baseball. But I hate it. 335 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I hate it so much. I hate it because it 336 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: just we like even you know, I'm gonna be a 337 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: little little sad boy here for a second too. It's 338 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: like the Braves yesterday, like against the Giants. First thing, 339 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Michael Harris first at bat back in two and a 340 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: half months, grand slam into McCovey cove, the first grand 341 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: slam ever hit into McCovey cove, Like what the fuck? Like, 342 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: we just don't get that. We don't have that kind 343 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: of voodoo power. I wish we could did. Like Brandon 344 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: was so good before the All Star break and then 345 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: the also break happened, and he's been a shell of 346 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: himself and it's just so annoying. 347 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: And there's also like McNeil had some great at bats 348 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: in this game. Yeah, I think he saw like twenty 349 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: four pitches in his. 350 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: First two lost pitch at bats, which is almost never 351 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: happens in the game. 352 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was tracking it because I'm trying to like 353 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: get a little better, like like anticipating some of these stats. 354 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: So Matt franticat looking and them four minutes late on 355 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Twitter and everyone against the impressions. I thought I was 356 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: gonna get but he was on pace. If he had 357 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: another two at Bassins games, I've seen the most pitches 358 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: in single game of any hited this year. Whoa because 359 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: he had twenty four and his three at bats, so 360 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: again he was not that paced. But we've had some 361 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: long at bats. Georgas he saw thirty eight pitches in 362 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: the game. In thirty eight in a game in one game, 363 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: and there were like seven other hitters who've seen thirty 364 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: pitches in the game. So I was like, Okay, why 365 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: Jeff can do this? And he was swinging the bat well, 366 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: the foul balls, finding the hole. He had that nice 367 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: double down the line that got the bets towards the 368 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: first run of the game. And then the weird decision 369 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: of Mendozo, who again most of this year has taken 370 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: a lot of decisions and pushed a lot of the 371 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: right buttons over and over again. Like even this game, 372 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: pulling Mark Fianzo's in the two hole, such a good button. 373 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Bush hits the has the two home runs. He looks 374 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: great there, like, that's now a spot where I can 375 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: see Mark Fantos hitting the rest of the rest of 376 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: the decade. 377 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: I know, but we have. 378 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: I gotta give Mark Vans some credit to after this, 379 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: because everything all the positive. When the negative we still 380 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: have to do some of the positive stuff. 381 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: But then the then. 382 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Taking out McNeil, pitching him with out uh with Alvarez 383 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: against the left t and Francisco Alvarez making it out 384 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: in one of the most bizarre ways possible. We had 385 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: a little number in front of the plate. He took 386 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: one step half out of the battest box, make contact 387 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: with the ball when he had one for in the 388 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: battles box, one for the out of it and was 389 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: called out. Good call by the ump heads up called 390 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: by the ump. Yeah, Langleys pointed it as well. Langler 391 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: is also a pretty good ball player, But weird move. 392 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: Where Alvarez has looked like a shell of himself for 393 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: going on six weeks now, Jeff McNeil has again in 394 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: this game, even the one you're just playing right now, 395 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: even going back a few weeks, taking some of the 396 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: best at bats in your team, and had that bat. 397 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: That came up Alvarez bot came up again. He put 398 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: a good ride to a ball against Mason Miller, but 399 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Mason Miller this time, which is mag 400 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: If I said this three months ago, I'd almost rather 401 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: have McNeil hitting against Mason Mill than Francisco Alvarez. So 402 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: it's just weird thing, especially because then Luis Trenz was 403 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: behind Alvers, who also had a really good game. He 404 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: had three hard hit balls in this game before Alvarez 405 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: came in. So maybe it's just Mendoza trying to show 406 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: a guy like Alvarez who knows this team needs a 407 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: greater spark than the one they actually need in this game, 408 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: being like I can't go to the playoffs. This guy's 409 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: not hot anyway, so show him that confidence. 410 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: See if you can find lighting a bible and get 411 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: him back on track, but again not blaming him, just 412 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: usually pushes a lot of the right buttons. 413 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was the right one to push 414 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: in that instance. Yeah, he uh. I didn't hate it, 415 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: maybe as much. I don't think you hate it, but 416 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I didn't not care for it as much as you did, 417 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: just because lefty, lefty get the right hand and batter 418 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: in there. I totally understand it from that standpoint, and 419 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: it was like, what Scott Alexandrews having a nice year, 420 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: but you kind of know what he throws, and it 421 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit tougher on a lefty than it 422 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: is alrighty, all this stuff's always like gonna be cutting 423 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: into the lefty away from the right handed batter with 424 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: the sinker and the change up. It felt it felt weird. 425 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: I didn't hate it, but at the end of the 426 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: day too like it was just nepick, just nippicking. This series, 427 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: though specifically Mendoza did make a lot of head scratching decisions. 428 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: It felt like going back to the first game of 429 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: the series after they were down early by a lot, 430 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: putting Jose Budo in the game for two innings and 431 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: basically burning him for the rest of the series when 432 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: today could have really used Jose Budo after a quick 433 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: hook for Jose Kitana it was. That was one of 434 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the more head scratching ones. And then using Edwin in 435 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: the nine in the in the blowout as well. It 436 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: didn't end up really mattering today, but it probably matters 437 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow now because Edwin's now tow twenty plus pitches I think, 438 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: in two straight outings, so it's like, like, what are 439 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: we gonna do? This is these little things are now 440 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: starting to catch up a little bit. Where before, like 441 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: you said, he pushed all the right buttons and it 442 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: was working. This is one of those series where every 443 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: button he pushed besides Vanto sitting second, seemed to not work. 444 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just the fill people in. I missed the 445 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: game on Tuesday. Jose Budo entered in the fifth, fourth 446 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: or fifth inning, whatever it was, but the Mets were 447 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: early down by six runs when he came in, and 448 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: then the Mets actually rallied after he came in and 449 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: cut the lead to two or three, and the Buddou 450 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: gaves runs up right back and that was kind of 451 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: the end of it. 452 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: And then you have this game. 453 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: Today where like you said, they would have been perfect 454 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: for Blulo to have made been the bridge from Jose 455 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Catans the late innings. 456 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 457 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: We give him Mendeouz a lot of credit for only 458 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: really caring about the game he's in sometimes, but now 459 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: it might be a situation where he might have overdone that. Also, 460 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: I just I understand these guys hadn't worked in a 461 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: few days, but Budo hadn't worked in a few days. 462 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: You wanted to get him some work. Why throw him? 463 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: And then I guess he got into trouble because he 464 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't playing throw them the second inning, but 465 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: then maybe the Mets scored the runs like aorry. 466 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm a thrown the second innings. Now we're back 467 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: in this game. 468 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: But for him, and because he said he didn't get 469 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: worked in like five days, Okay, I get that. 470 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: But you burn him the rest of the series. 471 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: You might have cost yourself a win by doing that, 472 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: because if he pitches this game on Thursday, I think 473 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: it's a significantly better chance the Mets win. Besides for 474 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Brasselbond and Reid Garrett giving up those runs in the fifty. 475 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Six, because Bond has been pretty unspectacular so far with 476 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the Mets, which he always has been. Yes, and we 477 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: and we did say this. We were like, nice pickup 478 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: because we gave up nothing for a reliever who has 479 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: the ability to get outs, which is something that we 480 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: desperately needed. But unlike a lot of other people in 481 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the Mets world, you were like, he is just a reliever, 482 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't He's not being brought in to save 483 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: the day. This is Wasscar Braselbon. We've has options. Yeah, 484 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: he has options. They could send him down tomorrow if 485 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: they watched might they might? Why not? You can? Who cares? 486 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Like see see you in two weeks Wasscar brose Bond. 487 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: But this like like him struggling. Garrett looked really good 488 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: in his first appearance back, looked badly bad in the 489 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: second one. So it was like, really could use you 490 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: coming back? Like do you know what this team misses 491 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: so desperately bad? Daniel Noon? Yes, sendluck noon, yes, Like, 492 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, when's he gonna come back? Please? Please 493 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: come back. 494 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: Red Folder was also shut down again with with his 495 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: shoulder I pingchment that says the return is no longer imminent. 496 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: And also in this game, Rigara similar talking about Kintana, 497 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: he didn't throw one sinker in the strike zone. 498 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: It was the pitchy through the most. 499 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just he he also just he very 500 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: clear didn't have it Like watching with the Mounts, he 501 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 2: did not, and it was only the two hard hit 502 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: balls against him, but there was just it was just enough, 503 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 2: and it was the command. It is the walks as 504 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: the beating around the strikes one and that's almost cruichting. 505 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Part of the watch of these games, yes, is that 506 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: these Mets pitchers just put everyone on base. 507 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: Everyone. 508 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: It seems like maybe it's not I don't know, I'm 509 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: not gonna say it's like their game plan to be 510 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: or not be big nibble around the strike zone, but 511 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: it just seems like there's so many walks. It seems 512 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: like it's not the thing the team b being like, 513 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: don't be afraid of a walk, you know what I mean, 514 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: be afraid of the loud contacts. 515 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: And shit like that. I was thinking about it when 516 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I was watching the game, because, like you said, they 517 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: were missing, but the misses were really close, every close, 518 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: but they were balls like they wasn't like fifty fifties 519 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: or like, oh maybe that should have been called a 520 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: strike or whatnot, like every I mean, the guy missed 521 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: a call once in a while, but for the most part, 522 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: they were close pitches, balls called balls. And I was 523 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: thinking that do the Mets do this because they know 524 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys just don't have the stuff, 525 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: So they're like, if we put it on the edges, 526 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: they can't do as much damage as if they throw 527 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: it down the middle, Like we would rather give up 528 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: a walk than give up a home run. Like is 529 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: that kind of their their thought process? Is that a 530 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: thought process? It doesn't feel like it should be, because again, 531 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: like put a ball on the tee and have the 532 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: guys hit within fielders, you're still gonna get out seventy 533 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: percent of the time. I think it might just be 534 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: more of a roundabout reason because a lot of these 535 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: pitchers and this met staff again, because they don't have 536 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: this crazy stuff. Not that they're intentionally throwing it on 537 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: the edges, but it's a lot of sinker split their color, 538 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: change up guys. So those are just pitches you have 539 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: to put in the edges are not going to be 540 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: they're not going to be effective pitches. Like we have 541 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: a situation where again, mate, in this game, the relievers Mayton, Garrett, Broseubon, 542 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: all Sinker, change up color guys. Basically all of them 543 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: have at least two of those three pitches. Like that's 544 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: just what they throw. 545 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: So if those are the pitches that you throw, you 546 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: have to exist to the edges or else you will 547 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: get pieced because none of these guys throw those pitch 548 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour. So it's just I think 549 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: it's more of a function of the personnel than like 550 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: a philosophy shift. It's just this is five this personnel 551 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: a five hundred baseball team. Yeah, it was then, it 552 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: is now, and it will be in the future. That's 553 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: not the worst thing that's watching it now. 554 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: It's like, uh yeah, Like the lineup I think is good, 555 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Like I genuinely do think it's got a good offense, 556 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Like the problem is here, that's one thing that is 557 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: for sure. It's just this this pitching, and we knew 558 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: this was going to make or break this team, and 559 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: right now they're breaking this team a little bit. 560 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: And it's a function of where the offense is still 561 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: quite good, but it's no longer nuclear. And the only 562 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: guy who I think is really right now swinging like 563 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: quite a consistent bat is and again similar thing I 564 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: just said was then is today, will tomorrow. Francisco Lindor, 565 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: he's riding a nine game hitting streak. The power has 566 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: gone away a little bit. He only won home runs 567 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: the last fifteen games, but like even over the last month, 568 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: we're still looking at about a nine hundred ohps over 569 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: his last thirty games, a three oh one batting average 570 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: over his last fifteen games, a three away batting average 571 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: over his last seven games, a four hundred bating Average's 572 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: just game in and game out, He's still there. He's 573 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: getting on base, he's being a fantastic leadoff hitther, He's 574 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: doing everything that can be asked. Pete also in this 575 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: game had the four to four, felt great, felt like 576 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: there was a bit of a corner turning, and then 577 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: he had some other poor at bash towards the ends 578 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: of the Thursday game. So it's just like it's still 579 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: just being the same, inconsistent Pete. But I still think 580 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: he's doing better, Like I think overall like he's a 581 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: much better spot. But it's just no one right now 582 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: is able to take the ball by the horns and 583 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: go nuclear. I'm going to and for the's almost to 584 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: it today he did. We had to get a couple 585 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: guys on base, maybe some of those homers, but it's 586 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: just it's just so it's so right there, but it's 587 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: like so close but so far. 588 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And that's how it feels. Yeah, And after the game 589 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: to win, like after Austin Adams did the oh my 590 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: god to the to the Mets and when he struck 591 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: out Alvarez until Alvarez get the fuck out of here 592 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: or something like that, Yeah, get the fuck off of 593 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 1: my field or whatever he told him, get the fuck 594 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: out of here, you motherfucker. I think it might have been. 595 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, hopefully this wakes them up. And 596 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: then they did swing the bats well that next game, 597 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, okay, that's a good response. The 598 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: Mets haven't really responded like that often this year. Love 599 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: to see that maybe they still got some fight left. 600 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: They came out swinging the bats hard today. I was 601 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: looking at my down, like, you know, what the met 602 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: should really do, Just try to sneaking a little pede 603 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: a Lino extension here if they if they extend him, 604 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: they're gonna go to the playoffs. So I was like, 605 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: the vibes will completely change your s Pete go on 606 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: a crazy tear and then was to give up the 607 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Grand and Sam I'm like, oh, we're right back in 608 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: this game. And he gave up the Grand Slam and 609 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: it was really really frustrating watching on TV. One of 610 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: the few times Gary Keith rot Well Keith wasn't there, 611 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: but Gary Ron, We're just like annoying me. Was Gelb's 612 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: got on the mic to talk about the six in 613 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: minimum picture rule, which, in case you guys don't know, 614 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Bajor League Baseball is, uh, I guess looking into possibilities 615 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: such a bullshit media float. Yeah, of making a six 616 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: inning picture rule where the starting pitcher must go six 617 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: innings unless they've thrown over one hundred pitches or given 618 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: up more than four earned runs or are injured, they 619 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: can come out of the game early. Then, And that 620 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: conversation took over the entire inning while walk walk walk 621 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Grand Slam, like all this stuff is happening, and in 622 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: the moment, I'm like, one, I hate the conversation because 623 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: it was really old man baseball and it was stupid 624 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: and it was dumb and I think actually takes away 625 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: the competitive spirit of baseball. By forcing a picture to 626 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: do something certain like that, which I think is really dumb. 627 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: And we will talk about that a little bit more. 628 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: But in the moment when like the game all of 629 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: a sudden started to matter AGAINM like, can we please 630 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: talk about anything else? Get Gamps off my fucking screen. 631 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this guy. Yeah. 632 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: I think that's just because it was a five to 633 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: dozing game and it was a hot story this morning. 634 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: I guess we'll just close out the series and me 635 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: and you was talking about it because I don't think 636 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: anyone else wants to hear about the Mets that much more. 637 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Uh, what else can we talk about the Mets? Real 638 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: quick was great? She still gets hits. 639 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: Uhano is the highest ops of any third basement nationally 640 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: by a lot over ally. 641 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: Like seventy. The Mets definitely tried to make Hawk to 642 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: a girl the new Grimace, No doubt that was one 643 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent legitimately a little bit embarrassing, I think major embarrassing. Yeah, 644 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: this team is obsessed with marketing. 645 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: We know that. 646 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know that besides marketing specifically Mark and I. 647 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, this was clearly a situation where they're 648 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: like we need a Joe. We need to do something 649 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: wacky Inzaney. Let's get some clicks, and they try to 650 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: do something. They put her on the like they put 651 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: her on the podium for an interview, Like it didn't 652 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: impress well. She was sitting at the table and like 653 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: there was a picture of her and the microphone. Some 654 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: one tweets I don't know if it was her doing 655 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: this spoof, but she was sitting up there and it's 656 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: just I don't know nothing. I can't talk to a 657 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: girl though, nothing gets her at all. Capitalize on your moment. Yeah, 658 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: for a major league baseball team, it'd be like, yeah, 659 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: the girl who was famous for saying that, you know, 660 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: she skips out some good head. 661 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: Let's have her throughout the first picture. She's crazy. 662 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: She wore the Tendency Baseball Show, which that was actually 663 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: kind of a good touch. I'm sure she likes baseball, 664 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: she's from Tennessee. But also just like so bizarre as 665 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: this team of all as bad as they're playing, like, yeah, 666 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: let's get this girl throw first pitch, like trying very 667 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: hard to be another viral moments and stage. They might 668 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: have gotten a little too obsessed with what they had 669 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: in July. They might have fall a little too close 670 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: to the sun. It Chris's wings may melted a little bit. 671 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: But I also there was a something that annoyed me 672 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: on Monday. 673 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: I don't know people saw. It was kind of low 674 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: key and it shouldn't, but it did. 675 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Where the Mets came off this road trip and they 676 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: were reeling and long road trip for four cities, tired, 677 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: like we have to reset. 678 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: And then I see that Jose Glacies does a live 679 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: concert of OMG. And I was like, oh, man, this 680 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: is now. 681 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: This is the flip side of all this shit where 682 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: you're not focused about baseball and you're winning and that's cool. 683 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: They're not focused about baseball and you're losing. 684 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: That is not cool. 685 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: And I hated seeing that there was an event that 686 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: that there was being advertised in the radio about Jose 687 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: Glacier's OMG meet and greet with a live performance. 688 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, this is now, this is 689 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: now cringe. And then also. 690 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: And then Alstimes does the thing, which like I didn't 691 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: have any problem lost that's doing it. He was really cut, 692 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: but he was cut by the Mets. He got a 693 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: big strikeout and you know what, like you act this way, 694 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: like you you can, that can happen, but also you 695 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: have to respond. I liked that Edwin said after the game, 696 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: like that's not a cap. 697 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: I love that. 698 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: I like that Lindor like went around the bases and 699 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: did it. He said it was to the Mets bullpen. 700 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: I think it probably was the Mets ball. 701 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. When Jesse Waker got the hit, he gave like 702 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: an emphatic slapping of the ass turned in the page. 703 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: So again like that's that's baseball, Like, that's that's gamanship. 704 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: That's part of it. But then did you keep doing 705 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: this stuff off the field? 706 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: And again, Jose Glacy is still playing amazingly, but he 707 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: did make a kind of an error that opened the 708 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: floodgates on Tuesday. And it's just it comes back to 709 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: stuff that we were all saying when the team was 710 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in baseball in May, where 711 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: it's like there's this fan engagements, marketing, it's a lot 712 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: of things that seemed to be on the forefront, like 713 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: this weekend's all these own g giveaways. Yeah, and it's 714 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: like this team just lost to too serious. 715 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: Two series in a row could have easily been four 716 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: series in a row and have fallen out of the 717 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: playoff pictures. 718 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: So it's like and then so all the all the 719 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: little tiny things where on Tuesday night the Mets have 720 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: their cheap Tuesday deal, the A's are in town and 721 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: get a good crowd. 722 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: Next Tuesday, Oils in town. No cheap deals or good 723 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: teams in town. 724 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 2: We're not giving you guys any discounts because you want 725 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: to come to the game anyway see a good team. 726 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: So it's just these little tiny things that the Mets 727 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: are doing as an organization. I just continue to beat 728 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: at me, and he's very annoying. And as his team 729 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: drifts back to five hundred's gonna wind up through gas 730 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: out a wildcard race, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna, I'm 731 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: definite gonna think about them a little bit once we 732 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: get to December of January, definitely. 733 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk about other baseball stuff, like 734 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: said the sixth. 735 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh one more thing, there's more. I want to give 736 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: David Peterson some credit. He's picking it as well. He's 737 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: been He's weirdly been the stopper for the Mess this year. 738 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: He's seven and one with three point zero four era. 739 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: If this was nineteen eighty one, people would be talking 740 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: about him for like down ballotsy young votes, like truthfully, 741 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: the Mets have won nine of the twelve games he's 742 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: pitched this year, which is crazy. So like I tried 743 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: to figure out, like what's going on, Like why he's better. 744 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: He's throwing his pitches a little bit harder, sinker has 745 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: more moveing a mile an hour harder. You see how 746 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: unemphatically I'm giving these pitching notes right now because I 747 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: gave these and I was like, super sad, are gonna 748 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: win the series? 749 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: The slider's more movement. 750 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: His change up has three more inches of drop and 751 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: is running less, so it's more of an up and 752 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: down change up, but still has some faith on it. 753 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: It's also adjusting how he was attacking hitters. All the 754 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: fastballs he throws now are high. He used to mix 755 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: up his own's lobo and I was like, fuck it, 756 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: like you got the EXTENSI I'm just gonna throw high fastballs. 757 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: Especially now he's doing it. 758 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: He's really having a nice even five pitch mix against 759 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: the righties with the fastball, the sinker, the change up, 760 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: the slider, and the curveball. I know you don't like 761 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: syncers varieties a lot from a lefty and no, I 762 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: don't know. 763 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. I have the issues 764 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: with it. I only have the issues with the lefty. Lefty. 765 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Change up right, you're right, change that's it? Okay? 766 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he is throwing a lot more sincers to 767 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: both sides of play, like that's the pitch that's jumping, 768 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: and especially against lefties, he's throwing significantly fewer fastballs. In 769 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, he threw forty percent fastballs to the lefties. 770 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: Last year was twenty five percent. This year is only 771 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: fourteen percent. So that's a clear indication, like I'm gonna 772 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: stop throwing this pitch. I think it's because his fastball 773 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: is bad, biggest sneak up on people, and the sinker 774 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: is actually good. So it's like, yeah, why why not? 775 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: And uh he kept trying to use that fastballs to 776 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: put the white pitch. I think he'll at the end 777 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: of the day he's like, this isn't working. So now 778 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: it's just a lot more slyers. Especially when he's the 779 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: head of the count, it's predictable was working. He's the 780 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: eighth highest ground ball right in the league. Fin any 781 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: pitcher seventy and fifty five percent and something else that's 782 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: weird because I was like, Dave Pearson, this stuff still 783 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: isn't that good. No, he's not striking anybody eye, He's 784 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 2: still walking tons of hitters. His seven percent recognized walker's 785 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: won the ten worst in all of baseball. His sierra's 786 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: one of the ten worst in all of baseball. So 787 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's a lot of good fortune 788 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: behind him helping this. I was like, Okay, he came 789 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: back right at the end of May, as Starling Martay 790 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: got hurt right in the middle of June. 791 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: And then even only the seventy thinks David Peterson's pitch 792 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: this year. 793 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: He has the twenty ninth best outs above average behind 794 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: him in all of baseball, which is a volume stats. 795 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: So it's like the mast just playing really good defense 796 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: behind him. And again that's when iglacies came up that 797 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: the door is amazing. That's when Starling Marte went down. 798 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: So it all makes a lot of sense. But third 799 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: art time around the other is still bad. All those 800 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: all those all those like true talent stats are bad. Yeah, 801 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: I think this is just like I think this is 802 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: David Peterson doing his best way, Miley, and it's like 803 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: this classic brewership. 804 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: But it's working. That's fine. He's uh, he's just gonna 805 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: be free picture for us like the next two years. 806 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Like that's that's the perfect thing about David Peterson. He 807 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: can slot him at four or five do exactly what 808 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: he does win some ball games. But yeah, whatever, I 809 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. That's fine, all right, let's 810 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: let's be let's be young men and yell about this 811 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: stupid six inning pitcher rule because I think it's genuinely one. 812 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: It's not happening. There's no shot this is happening. This 813 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: would alter the game of baseball that needs no altering, 814 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: like whatsoever. This doesn't improve the game by any means. 815 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: This is simply to appease the old boomer generation that goes, 816 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: you need your starting pictures to throw. They're not going 817 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: along enough. My pictures used to throw complete games every 818 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: single day. What's going on? 819 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: I think there's two parts of this story dropping exactly today. 820 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: And I think one part of it is that every 821 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: time what happens this time of year, baseball leaves a 822 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: new cycle. Yes, once we get to the second third 823 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: weeks of NFL preseason. It starts to dominate Twitter, it 824 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: says arm at, the algorithm starts dominant new cycle again. 825 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Because this is just this. 826 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: We're in a football world. Everyone's fucking obsessed with football. 827 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: Everyone's in their fans football draft. 828 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 829 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: So I think baseball tried to get a little bit 830 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: back into the spotlight. Give me a sneaky fantasy football 831 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: pick right now for the people out there. Give me 832 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: a sneaky amy, like a sneaky one of like Ray 833 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Davis and the Bills. Ray Davis, Okay, yeah, he's like 834 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: he's like a mid round rookie running back. 835 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: He just he might be the roster. 836 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: I think theyve said they want to stop giving Josh 837 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: Allen the gold line touches, and Ray Davis is bigger 838 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: than James Cook. 839 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: And then also another stupid weird one. 840 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: I'm so in zero running back mode right now, not 841 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: even looking at running back braid down, Grant handcuff. But 842 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: Cuba Tuba, Cuba's gonna get get the rock in Carolina 843 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: for no reason. 844 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: So like I'm weirdly in a tube. Also, like Jayln Warren, 845 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I love to check go. I try offered your trade 846 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: checo Disley today. But I'll take a look back to baseball. 847 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: The other thing that happened as I car every car 848 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: in the world hawks outside my window. It's Rush Shower 849 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: and Grand Avenue. Baby. 850 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday night was one of the best pictures that we've 851 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: seen him on in baseball in the last couple of years. 852 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: But Chris sail Out going up against Blake Snell and 853 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: Giants and Braves two games in the thick of the 854 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: playoff race, and just we watched almost the whole game. 855 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: It was fucking awesome, strikeouts, we contact goes, two guys 856 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: in such control, big lefties like we were. We were 857 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: having to talk with our friends that like baseball is 858 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: the only sport where you could be watching zero as 859 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: your game be like this is a fucking awesome games, 860 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: like this is great, Like I love this because it 861 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: is like I think that it's truly still probably the 862 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: most beautiful thing in baseball to watch them starting pitchers 863 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: go at it like in control of the game, moving 864 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: the around, playing the mental game with the other team, 865 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: playing the mental game with each other, Like it was 866 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: kind of like I was excited to see who was 867 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: even gonna stay in that game longer Between stund Snow 868 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: and they both got the seventh inning. 869 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is great. They all had a 870 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: no hitter through six again, yeah, I think he had 871 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: thirteen strikeouts. I think Stale had eleven. Like it was 872 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: just like, this is fucking awesome, Like this is baseball. 873 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: So I think that happening plus baseball one missing a 874 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: new cycle. They leaked this rule that I can't stress 875 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: enough is other horseshit. It's it's cocka many, it's bullshit. 876 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: It totally is like there's no way they ever do this. 877 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: And I hate and all these rule changes we've had 878 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: in baseball the last few years, that they keep pushing 879 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: things that keep killing strategy and keep killing what we 880 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: can do with the team. I hate three batterman in rule. 881 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I understand it was getting annoying that we were like 882 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: doing pitching switches every at bat, but who the fuck 883 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: cares like it's so stupid. 884 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Like I like it now a little bit more because 885 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: like relievers, relievers are more valued that can get out 886 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: both sides, pitchers on both sides of plate, so it's 887 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: vuing better baseball players. 888 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: Sorry dreed Levins, right, yeah, sorry, j Jered Belevans hair 889 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: looked so good and pregame unbelievable flow. It was all 890 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: up and out there. It was incredible to see. But 891 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: I just hate that they keep shrinking strategy. Even the shift. 892 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: I understand that has helped the game more balls and 893 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: playoffs turned into hits, but like, fuck that, Like why 894 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: can't I play my defenders whatever the hell I want to? Like, 895 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: why is the rule this guy has to stand here? 896 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: This guy has to stand here. That's stupid. It's not baseball. 897 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: This is our field, there's our canvas. We should paint 898 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: this any way we want. And this would be the 899 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: absolute amalgamation of all these horrible strategy rules coming together. 900 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: It's it's dumb as hell. I mean the NFL, like 901 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: does have a rule for how many guys you can 902 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: have on the line, Like there are rules there, so 903 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know as much about it. 904 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: There's defensive defensive three seconds, you know in basketball. I 905 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: will say the defense movie thing doesn't bother me nearly 906 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: as much as this one. 907 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: Because Okay, I again coming off off the years, I 908 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: don't hate those rule changes BEENDMNIM more than no shift. 909 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: I just think it's continues to open a door for 910 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: these rules that are ending strategy and ending creativity inside 911 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: the baseball diamonds. 912 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so me and my dad were talking about this 913 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: while we were watching, and I'm glad that he was 914 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: on my side here of like this is this is 915 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: horrendous rule change, because one today was a great example 916 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: of it. Jose King Tana was not at one hundred pitches. 917 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Jose King Tana four runs was he? But up until 918 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: that point, like even before the JJ Bluday home run, Like, 919 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: if that was a righty, he's got He's coming out 920 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: of the game one hundred percent. But it's because jaj 921 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Bluede was a lefty. They left him in. But with 922 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: those rules, he would have to say in because he 923 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: would have zero earned runs, would be under one hundred pitches. 924 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: But the guy was fifty to fifty on balls and 925 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: strikes in terms of pitches that he's thrown during that game. 926 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: That's a horrendous start. And I think what a lot 927 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: of people who talk about this were a pro this 928 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: rule this or that. Forget that there are still plenty 929 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: of pitchers. The good ones still go six, they still 930 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: go seven pretty consistently. This why do I need to see? 931 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: And again I hate to take shots at Jose Kintana 932 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: more of this episode, But why are you forcing me 933 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: to watch an inferior product that is not going to 934 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: help you win the game. And then the conversation of well, 935 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: this will incentivize velocity because now you need to be 936 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: able to go longer into the game, like, no, it won't. No, 937 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: there's no reason. Oh I'm hurt, I'm out take me 938 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: out there. Just gonna let guys get hurt. Which two anyway, 939 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: because again we have I've talked about this before. It's 940 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: a really evil paradigm in modern baseball where if a 941 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: pitcher gets hurt in the major league roster, as long 942 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: as they got to the major league roster, they're fine. 943 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: They just they're getting a full year major league salary 944 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: to get Tommy john surgery. It's okay with him, and 945 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: the team is like whatever, we'll bring another one up. 946 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Like these, I don't think teams really care about these 947 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: pitches getting hurt. And I think a lot of these 948 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: fringy pitchers who are throwing the most effort because they 949 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: need the most effort to proves are major league caliber, 950 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: major league worthy, get the major league salary for the 951 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: other injuries right again. I think that's a horrible, horrible 952 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: consequence of this modern game. Keith ribbing me the good 953 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: point in the radio that he's always he said he 954 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: suspected that because and this is a roundabout take that 955 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: I really actually liked. By the end of it, Little league, 956 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: my little league, since we've been playing this before we 957 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: were playing pitch counts every big team, every big tournament. 958 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: You can throw. 959 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: If you throw forty pitcheres this day, you have to 960 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: have this many off days. You can go up to 961 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: eighty pitches that you do this many off days. Okay, 962 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: So if you know that you're a kid and you're 963 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: the best pitcher because you're pitching and you only have 964 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: this many pitches, I'm gonna air the fuck out. 965 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm gassing it up. I can only pitch for this long. 966 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: I know. 967 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: I threw forty the pitches a couple days ago. I'm 968 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: not even tired, Like I'm fine. I felt fine out 969 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: for that one. I still wasn't allowed to pitch because 970 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: of the rules, not because of my body. So I 971 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: think that teachers from a young age erit the fuck out. 972 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: And I think as you keep going up, you know, 973 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: because we have more numbers and more data that the 974 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: harder you throw a baseball, the more like you are 975 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: to get the other guy out. 976 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: It is one to one. 977 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: It's clear as day. People pretend it's not true. There 978 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: are elements of location becoming much more important, but that 979 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 2: lay line graph is going up. The harder you throw, 980 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: the more likely you are the get swing and miss. 981 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: More likely I guest swing and miss, more likely you 982 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: are to get this hitherout. That's it, game over. So 983 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: just knowing that it's hard to tell players not to 984 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: because you're taking money out of their pockets. So yeah, 985 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: maybe this rule, in a roundabout way, could after forty years, 986 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: stop people from doing it because they have to do it. 987 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: But I don't even think it's true. Then there's also 988 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: there's so much nuance in baseball, so where you might 989 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: not want this to happen. There was a game on 990 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 2: last night, Wednesday, This is the Raise versus the Astros. 991 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: The only person in part of this podcast who watched 992 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 2: this game but zackly Telver's run out Blanco. Zackly Teller 993 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: was pitching totally fine for the race. He'd given up 994 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: only one hit of the Solor runninggast Jeremy pany in 995 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: five innings. He was only like sixty eight pitches. Took 996 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: him out of the game after five. The announcers like, oh, 997 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, the tell looked really good. 998 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: Took him out. 999 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: But that was exactly one two revolutions through the lineup 1000 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: that he ended the fifth inning with a nine hitter. 1001 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: HOSEL two was up next and also two starts to 1002 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: go because of the stupid Major League Baseball schedule. 1003 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: I got my one in an episode. He just faced 1004 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: the Astros. So this was the second time in a 1005 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: week facing this team. They've all just seen him. Their 1006 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: good hitters were coming up again. The Rays don't score 1007 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: runs anymore because they're Their lineup. 1008 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: Is bad, very bad guy. It's really bad. They score 1009 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: a running game if they're lucky. 1010 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: They had one hit. 1011 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: I think he had two total hits in this game, 1012 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: none of one for extra basis. But that situation where 1013 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: I would want to take that picture out too. Reck 1014 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: He just got through two lines. He just got through 1015 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: two revolutions. He was not one hundred pitches. He had 1016 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: not given up four runs. He just faced the team 1017 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: the week before, and we don't know we're getting another run, 1018 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: So get him out of the game because our bullpen's 1019 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: incredible and our starters are fine, and our lineup is 1020 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: bad Like this, just you have to play with your strengths. 1021 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: That's what that best part of about sports lay alone. 1022 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: Base Like, I don't want every single pitcher to have 1023 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: the same rules because not every pitcher is built the same. 1024 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: It's really fucking dumb. 1025 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: Well think about, like, just put this in context of 1026 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: other sports, right, Like imagine if in the NBA, the 1027 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: starting line a pass to play the first quarter, they 1028 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: have to play the full first quarter. Nobody can sit. 1029 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: That's kind of what you're doing here in a way, 1030 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: is like I'm telling you exactly how and when you 1031 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: can play play your players. Despite teams like the Rays, 1032 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: every winning team, all teams in baseball now, they they 1033 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: make these changes because it gives them an advantage. It's 1034 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: about winning at the end of the day. And I 1035 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes we do forget that you want to 1036 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: win as many baseball games as physically possible. Shout at 1037 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: the Mets marketing. Want to win as many baseball game 1038 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: as physically possible. If US as an organization has decided 1039 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: that Zach Lyttel pitching the sixth inning, even though he's 1040 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: given up zero earned runs and has seventy pitches. Is 1041 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: gives us a worst chance to win. Why should we 1042 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: be d incent, Why should we be hurt for trying 1043 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: to win the baseball game? And that's really what this 1044 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: is at the end of the day. These moves are 1045 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: made because they're trying to win baseball games. Has nothing 1046 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: to do with Oh, these pictures can't handle it. They're 1047 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: not tough enough, And I feel like that's a lot 1048 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: of the old head conversation is like even with again, 1049 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: I love Gary and Ron, like they're so awesome, but 1050 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: they missed so incredibly bad on this take. They were 1051 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: talking about how like, yeah, back in the day, you 1052 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: used to really get pumped for big pictures duels, like 1053 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: you still do. Tell me who the number four was 1054 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: for the New York Giants pitching up against the Brooklyn Dodgers, 1055 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: did you remember? I don't think so. You want to 1056 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: see those guys? The pictures duels are still like who 1057 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: gets a shit about the rest of them? Like we 1058 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: do still to this day. 1059 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: Even just now we were talking about actually versus Logan 1060 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: Web in a day game awesome freak. I hit hard 1061 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: a little bit, but like Logan Web just through seven 1062 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: to two thirds innings against the Braist line. If who's 1063 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 2: been scorching hot, like this still happens all the time. 1064 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: We talk about the other night. It's just I think 1065 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: that people get obsessed with the negatives of baseball sometimes 1066 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: forget the positive because there's also good things. 1067 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: This is good. This will cause significantly more injuries as well. 1068 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Of course, force people to throw state like they're like, 1069 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: we got a big problem with pitching. Maybe this will 1070 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: take down Velo. The guys are still gonna throw this 1071 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: his hard. They're gonna get hurt more, and. 1072 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: It'll probably get take people the jobs because it'll be 1073 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 2: they'll be less effective. 1074 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: We're now, it's like a really good thing that a 1075 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of teams do. It is like you bring on 1076 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: your starting pictures a little more slowly, take them two 1077 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: times around the batting way, take them for three four innings, 1078 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: like then you can work up to it, work up 1079 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: to work up to it, like super, I super don't 1080 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: think this rule is ever gonna happen. I really hope 1081 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't. This would be one of those that I 1082 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: would be like, very very vocal about your favorite word, 1083 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: the bastardization of the game. We love Major League Baseball. 1084 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: This would truly be one of the worst rule changes 1085 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: that the sport could ever make. 1086 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: And again, I really think that this was simply just 1087 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 2: a social media play from Major League Baseball. So between 1088 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: the pictures Duol the other night that got tons of 1089 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: impressions on Tweather, between football stealing all their impressions, and 1090 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: then between the way that the article said that came 1091 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: out was like an anonymous executive league that league meetings 1092 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: they said they could it was like, what are you 1093 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: talking about. It's like, I don't know, Like I understand 1094 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: that they to leak some new rules. You probably do 1095 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: want to float them and see what the crowd thinks. 1096 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the crowd even liked it, 1097 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: but I don't think anyone is really thinking through this. 1098 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: I also love Max Sure is his variation of this 1099 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: rule he's talked about before. I think he told us 1100 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: on this podcast few years ago, where you have have like, 1101 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: let's say it's a five in your six inning man 1102 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 2: day for starting pitching. 1103 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: If you can't meet that, you just lost your DH Yeah, 1104 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: which that's at least a creative way that Yeah, it's arkady, 1105 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, it's a little arcadie. It's a 1106 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: little Michael Kaye make up your own rules to fit 1107 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: your own team's narrative kind of thing. But it's better 1108 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: than this. I still I still hate that. Why should 1109 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: the picture have any effect on what's happening on the offense? 1110 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't That doesn't really make any sense to 1111 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: me either. But also I don't understand that. 1112 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't think at the end of the day, really 1113 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 2: the pitcherre not going six innings. It's again taken away 1114 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: from the games they're not. 1115 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: I promise you it will make the sport maybe less 1116 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: popular because you're gonna be seeing fucking Jose Kintana throwing 1117 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: six every five days. 1118 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, can't you can't take Natana anymore? 1119 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: Right? 1120 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: Let me okay, sorry, Jose Quintana. You're gonna see Bryce 1121 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: Elder throwing six innings every five days, and you're gonna 1122 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: be like, I don't want to watch baseball because this 1123 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: guy makes me miserable. 1124 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 2: Then guys can more hit its more offenses, and that 1125 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: it all. It all again, all balls down to the 1126 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: same few issues that don't seem that hard to say, 1127 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 2: but they just keep make getting harder. I'm pretty sure 1128 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: baseball popular has been like up over like the last 1129 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: five years. The games game seems to be like genuinely 1130 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 2: in a great spot in terms of like the popularity 1131 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: of baseball and where it was ten years ago till now. 1132 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: I think we're good. I think we're good. I don't 1133 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: think we need to chim fuck it up anymore. 1134 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: I think by far the biggest thing that hurts the 1135 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: popular baseball over time is the continued strikes. So I 1136 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: think maybe too rob Man for his people should maybe 1137 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 2: start to collective bargaining early so they don't keep trying 1138 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: to lock the players out of the of the generational 1139 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: wealth that the owners get to turned over year after year. 1140 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: We have so many good stars. They everybody knows him now. 1141 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: People know who Elie de la Cruz is. He plays 1142 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati He plays the Cisdati Like it's crazy. 1143 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, keep trying to fix baseball. I still 1144 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: don't really think it needs to be fixed. 1145 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: That badly, not at all. That's I'll tell you what, 1146 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: that's not the problem. If there is a problem with 1147 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: the game, the starting pitcher is not going six innings, 1148 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: a made up number by the way. 1149 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, why six? Like good, good, good good pitchers still 1150 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: pitch that long and and the pitch. 1151 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: Count at one hundred's. This is another thing that they 1152 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: talked about on the broadcast that they liked. That's a 1153 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: fake number. There's no proofal shit, Like some people's arms. 1154 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: It might be good for one one hundred and ninety pitches, 1155 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: some people might only have sixty before their arms swalls off, 1156 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: Like it's just a fake number. That's round that we 1157 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: all decided we'd like. 1158 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: Alexandthoppolis has said famously, they're like, so you, how do 1159 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: you do your innings for pitchers year over year? He 1160 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 2: was like, we like to push them up at twenty 1161 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: percent year over year. 1162 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: We think that's safe. He was like, oh, how'd you 1163 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: come up with that? Like team docs and stuff. 1164 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 2: He was like, uh, we saw the Rays doing it 1165 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: about seven years ago, so we fited like they fucking 1166 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: they must know. So we just baseball so high mindy, 1167 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: like oh, someone said, one hundred pitches is where the stops. Now, 1168 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: we all just use it because it's a pretty number. 1169 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: Like that number scientifically could be one hundred twenty seven. 1170 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 2: The number could be eighty eight, like the number is 1171 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: probably different for every single human being that ever steps 1172 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: on the mound. It's just stupid that we keep trying 1173 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: to homogenize a game because that's the opposite of what 1174 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: sports are supposed to be. 1175 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: Yep, I agree with you. I hate that rule. I 1176 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: hope you guys too, and hopefully we never have to 1177 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: talk about it again, because I hate it and I 1178 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: don't want to. All Right, what are we gonna do. 1179 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna do, uh great mention prospect report? Not doing 1180 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: a prospect report. Last week. 1181 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: We told you guys, Mark and I recorded and we 1182 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: ranked our top twenty five prospects in the Mets system, 1183 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 2: and we're gonna put that last Saturday. But the vibes 1184 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 2: were so bad that we were like, let's just hold 1185 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: on to it. Let's let us win these games against 1186 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: the A's is winning game agains tomorrow's play that next Saturday. 1187 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: Vibes did not get better, but we're not gonna hold 1188 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: it on any longer. So Saturday morning afternoon, whenever YouTube release, 1189 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: I'll put the audio out to top twenty five Mets prospects. 1190 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: It's beefy. It's like forty five minutes. A lot of 1191 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: clips on YouTube it's a good video, so I hope 1192 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: you guys enjoy that. XU. We haven't done a prospect 1193 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: port a little while. Got a little media marvel for 1194 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: you too. It has nothing to do with Tim Healey. 1195 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: It has to do with news Day. They won't allow 1196 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: him to mention Hok to a girl or even by 1197 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: her full name in his article apparently about today's game, 1198 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: which is insane. 1199 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: And you know what the worst part it is the 1200 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: Mets are probably high five in right now in those meanings. 1201 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everyone's talking about us. 1202 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: We did. Did the Mets themselves actually tweet it? 1203 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure they did Instagram or TikTok I did in check, 1204 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: but I didn't see anything from their main Twitter account. 1205 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check Twitter real quick if they tweeted anything 1206 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: about the first pitch cuz I don't know. I don't 1207 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: see anything. MLB Maine did as and why multiple times? 1208 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: WHOA interesting? So then they did this and they didn't 1209 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: even capitalize on it. Well, I'm sure they did ticked 1210 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'll check that now. 1211 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 2: But we're gonna go out to prev the Mardel series, 1212 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: which wow, this couldn't could really this could kill us? 1213 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: This this could make me want to drink bleach. Yeah, 1214 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: he just that one got You're like, oh man, that 1215 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: felt you real? I don't know, like we should have 1216 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: won this. We should have won this series. We could have. 1217 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 1: We didn't. 1218 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: We should not have won the last one, the Angels 1219 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: one still hick six in my fucking craw. It's just 1220 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: like six in my crawl. Oh, the season could end 1221 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 2: this The season could formally end this weekend. You almost 1222 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: got the football season with the Mets. But Friday night 1223 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: seven ten, trum and I evers Andres, I just my 1224 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: mind so fucked up. Trumb and Ivers, Rothery Munos, Saturday 1225 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: four o'clock Luisa Reno versus Max Meyer. 1226 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: And then Sunday the Roku game at twelve noon. Everyone 1227 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: keep that one in mind. Paul Blackfrin versus what's his 1228 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: first name? Valente Beozo. Valente Beozo, who's a really good 1229 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: game this week at the Phillies. Yeah, definitely can't be good. 1230 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: I will outplant my flag in that never watching him 1231 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: throw a pitch. He can't be good. But whatever comes 1232 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: from the Astros comes from the act. Oh he does, okay, 1233 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe well they got rid of him. That makes me 1234 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: think even less of him at this point. But I 1235 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys got a girlfriend, wife, whatever, 1236 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: you got your partner, if they maybe it's a good 1237 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: weekend to be like, hey, you want what do you 1238 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: want to do this weekend? You want to go out, 1239 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: you want to go to a restaurant, you want to 1240 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: go to the park, whatever, whatever plans they want to do. 1241 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: I think you should. You should hop on them because 1242 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: there's kind of no positive to this series. Like the 1243 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: Mets like need to win every single game. Instagram didn't 1244 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: even mention Hailey Welsh, So why do they do this? 1245 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 3: Then? 1246 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they just wanted to get 1247 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 1: a little viral sensation thing going, but not on their roads. 1248 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 3: This. 1249 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: You know what though, this this builds into what we know. 1250 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: There's a little in neptitude there. So yeah, whatever, I 1251 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: don't know it. Like like again, if you don't swoop 1252 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: the Marlin's gonna be pissed, probably gonna be pretty upset. 1253 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: Kind of have to. I think the magic number I 1254 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: said we need twenty six before this series. You want 1255 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: to jump back momentum back. I gets something going on. 1256 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 2: Here's just because like you have Marlins and you have 1257 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: Oriols at home, and then you play seven games against 1258 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 2: the Padres and Diamondbacks where it's like you can't play baseball. 1259 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: These two teams. 1260 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 2: I think you must have lost seven games since the 1261 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 2: All Star break. 1262 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we lost seven games in a week. They're blazing, 1263 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: blazing hot. They're good. 1264 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: Like if you don't, if you don't get good stuff 1265 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 2: happening soon, like that's it. Well, I just lot a 1266 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 2: nice chance to make the playoffs up through our fingertips, 1267 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 2: which sucks because I want to make the playoffs the 1268 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: whole point. 1269 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: Of the game. 1270 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 2: And it's just it and like and again the schedule 1271 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: is like this was another easy part of the schedule. 1272 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: After the Diamondbacks. It's White Sox as Red Sox is 1273 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: Red as Blue Jays. So it's not very good teams. 1274 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: Like just just there's still a chance, like you're still alive. 1275 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 2: You're not dead, you're just playing like shit, just that's yeah, 1276 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: they're not dead, but boil boy, it feels like they're dead. 1277 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: That's how I'll say this. I'm not gonna officially announce 1278 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: them that season over, but it feels cooked right now. 1279 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: That's at least how it feels after that disappointing blowing 1280 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: of a game against the A's. 1281 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to just to highlight someone from the Marlins 1282 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 2: the series. We haven't seen Max Meyer, big time prospect, 1283 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 2: wicked slyther good fastball. He hasn't been as good since 1284 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: he's got sen down to the minor leagues and he's 1285 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: pitching really well early in the season and the mandate. 1286 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: He throws his change up more change ups, not very good. 1287 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: He hasn't thrown it a lot recently, so that's the 1288 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: pitch to hit. 1289 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why the Marlins are telling him to 1290 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: do that. 1291 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 2: He threw a story like thirty percent of the time 1292 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: in the Myers now throwing a fifteen percent of the majors. Again, 1293 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 2: it's just can't really command it. Not that good of 1294 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: a pitch. 1295 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: Watch out for a slytherer and change up for his 1296 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: slider and fastball. He is, he's a he's a fun 1297 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: little pitcher and uh, yeah, got anything else, James, I 1298 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think uh, I think I think 1299 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: we did have from the rafters. I believe we have 1300 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: a Frankie Pepper's update. Okay, Frankie Pepper's what you got 1301 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: for us? Yeah, we got something, so uh, Frankie Peppers 1302 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: the return to end the episode. Okay, boys, Frankie Peppers. 1303 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 3: Sorry if you hear likes. 1304 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: It, I think I think you hit something. 1305 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 3: I'm outside, but uh, I don't know what to say 1306 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: after a series like that, like how do you how 1307 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 3: do you drop to a three DS? Like I know 1308 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 3: that hot right now, but come on, you. 1309 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: Can't go walking eight hundred people in the game and 1310 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: expect to win. 1311 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 3: Like's some the bats work in another series, the bulls work. 1312 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 3: But when the bats work, the bulls don't work. And 1313 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: when the bulls work, the bats don't work. I don't understand. 1314 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 3: I don't get it. You know, you can't walk eight 1315 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 3: hundred people, and like my doctor said, walking is good 1316 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: for me, like the cardio is good. It's like you 1317 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 3: can't give an out free cardio to everybody on the team. 1318 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 1: It just can't. 1319 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 3: But little concern. But either way, as always, I appreciate you. 1320 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 3: I hope you boys are well. Thanks listening to my Instagram. 1321 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: That's it. 1322 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: Thank you Frankie Pepper. So that's a shining light. I 1323 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 2: also make a promise to you guys this if the 1324 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: Mets lose the series of the Marlins too other or 1325 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: get swept Sunday that will have a voice my episode. 1326 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: So yes, get ready Sunday. If the Mets have lost 1327 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: two games, start sending them in messed up Instagram. I 1328 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: think we have to accept you, So just give us 1329 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: a bunch of requests. I'll check the inbox that day. 1330 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: So just keep an eye out there, keep active, and 1331 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 2: then we'll we'll if the mess If the Mets win 1332 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: the series, we will not. If the's to lose the series, 1333 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 2: we will and we we we help tell you guys 1334 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: not to hold back. 1335 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: No, yeah, of course, let it rip. We don't work 1336 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: for the team anymore. You can say whatever you want. 1337 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: I think we do have a few reviews as well 1338 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: that we want to shout out and shout out. No, 1339 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: we have one. Actually, I don't know how to say. 1340 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say you user name, but 1341 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: you went by t best Mets Pod five stars. You 1342 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: guys are both a great listen to every episode No 1343 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: just tea. Oh I thought you're telling me to take 1344 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: a time out. No, ta, okay, see both true Mets 1345 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: fans with great insight and knowledge of the game. Keep 1346 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: it up, fellows. Also, if you're ever on long Island, 1347 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: feel free to stop by the Rabbits Foot Bar for 1348 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: some drinks on the house tea te I don't know 1349 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: when we will ever be back on Long Island. We were, 1350 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: we were in the Hamptons this past few days. Great, 1351 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: great time out there, pool, good beach, all that crazy 1352 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: fancy out there. We saw Alec Baldwin, fun fact, just 1353 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: just rolling the streets as a as a normal person, 1354 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: because he is. But if we're ever back on Long Island, 1355 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: we'll be heading right to the Rabbit's Foot and we 1356 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 1: will be taking you up on those free drinks. 1357 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to if again we ever find up there, 1358 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if we will. I don't know how 1359 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 2: get there, but it's it's it's the seed's been planted 1360 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 2: in our heads. 1361 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, plant in our heads. Guys. Thank you so much 1362 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: for listening and watching this episode of the mets up Podcast. 1363 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you follow us on all our social media 1364 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: at mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to 1365 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel you want to see the video version 1366 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: of this and if you are listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, 1367 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: drop us a rating, drop as review, download and subscribe. 1368 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: Follow James on Twitter app James underscore you know I'm 1369 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: jiraffneckmark with a sea. We'll catch you guys after this 1370 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 1: Marrowling series. Please, for the love of God, not again. 1371 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,959 Speaker 1: Can't do this again. 1372 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 3: I can't. 1373 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: Please help. Let's go mat See you guys next time.