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Speaker 1: Here we go. We are live in Los Angeles. It

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Speaker 1: is Super Bowl Week? Is that Sam Darnold going to

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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl? Welcome Inn, It's the Herd wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. It's going to be back

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Speaker 1: in LA. So this is the one week of the

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Speaker 1: year where people come up to me because I've been

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Speaker 1: a public figure for a while and everybody asks me

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Speaker 1: the exact same question, who do you like in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Given the exact same answer to everybody, Well,

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Speaker 1: Seattle's the better team. But I think I like New

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Speaker 1: England because I think what's happened is I just saw

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Speaker 1: a headline this morning, Sam Darnold favorite to it win MVP.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is going to be the only team talked about

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Speaker 1: for the next six seven days. Even though New England

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Speaker 1: was number two in scoring, number four in defense, and

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Speaker 1: these are the two best point differential teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: Seattle won New England two. People are talking about it

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be a blowout. And I think

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Speaker 1: what happened is the Patriots lost to the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: the Raiders in September and people stopped watching them play.

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Speaker 1: They were in a lot of one o'clock eastern windows.

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Speaker 1: And I remember what I kept saying when they lost early.

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Speaker 1: J Mack was crushing me and I said, you guys,

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Speaker 1: you have to slow play this team. Fifteen new starters.

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Speaker 1: They have to break it before they rebuild it. They

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Speaker 1: were a mess. I love their draft. They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: fifty new starters. Check back late October early November, then

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Speaker 1: we can evaluate them. So starting Sunday, September eighth, they

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Speaker 1: go and play Carolina, a team that could have beaten

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Speaker 1: the LA Rams twice, and they crush Carolina. Playoff, Carolina

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Speaker 1: blow their doors off. And I want to remind you, yes,

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Speaker 1: their schedule. When you look at New England's schedule, it's

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Speaker 1: almost worthy of a laugh. It's hard to find the

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Speaker 1: good games. It is a lot of New Orleans, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Jets, Atlanta Giants, Baltimore without Lamar Jackson kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to give you an example. It

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Speaker 1: was the easiest schedule in the league. Second easiest was

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Speaker 1: Denver and Denver play Green Bay, Houston, Philly, the Chargers twice,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Mahomes and Reid twice, and they played

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Speaker 1: the Colts early in the season. Did Denver when Denver

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Speaker 1: lost to the Colts because the Colts were actually good

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Speaker 1: and they were healthy. So this is the easiest schedule

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But here's the whammie. Seven of the

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Speaker 1: last ten Super Bowl champs have had a top ten

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Speaker 1: easiest schedule. This is not college football style. Points matter

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, and they matter in college football. Go

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Speaker 1: back and look at teams who had top ten easy schedules.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four Eagles, the Chiefs before them, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs before them, the Rams before them, New England this

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Speaker 1: will be their third team with an easiest schedule. That's

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Speaker 1: what happens when you play the Dolphins of the Jets

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Speaker 1: twice a year. So I always look at this, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will admit New England has played a eleven teams

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Speaker 1: or eleven games against teams that fired their coach, which

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Speaker 1: is outrageously anemic. They faced eleven games where a team

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Speaker 1: fired a coach. And yes, I'll admit they beat the

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Speaker 1: Chargers convincingly, but the Chargers had a bad oldline. And

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Speaker 1: then they beat the Texans had three tornovers, but CJ.

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Speaker 1: a blizzard too, And I admit it doesn't look pretty.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I know. Starting with that Carolina game

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Speaker 1: at the end of September, when all the free agents

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Speaker 1: and rookies, there was a certain symmetry. They played together

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Speaker 1: for a month, They've won sixteen of seventeen games. Sixteen

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Speaker 1: scoring output, a ownership, a close games. A that's all

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Speaker 1: I know. So everybody comes up. I keep saying Seattle's

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Speaker 1: the better team, but they're gonna get all the love.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a fire hydrant of Seahawked greatness until Sunday

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Speaker 1: and kickoff. And I'm like, I know they didn't impress you.

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Speaker 1: This is not college football. They've won sixteen to seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: They're only loss in the last four months thirty five

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Speaker 1: they got robbed by a bad call in Denver and

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Speaker 1: should be in the Super Bowl. Here's Mike Vrabel on

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Speaker 1: why they're wearing the all white uniforms in the game.

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Speaker 2: For the home team.

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Speaker 3: We get to choose guys like the white uniforms, so

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Speaker 3: I know the way.

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Speaker 4: So there we go.

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Speaker 2: I hope the true Fairy.

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Speaker 3: Comes to night too, will be really excited.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, yesterday Knicks Lakers played and it's interesting. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: are thirty one and eighteen and they're on a six

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Speaker 1: several players og Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Michale bridges that

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Speaker 1: if you put him on the trading block, people would

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Speaker 1: be interested in them. The Lakers are twenty nine to nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's forty one and when he and Luca are on

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Speaker 1: the court together this season, They're on minus seventy. They

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Speaker 1: can't play together. Why because something I've been shouting from

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Do not be fooled by

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. The Knicks are not fooling you. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: fired a coach they shouldn't have. They brought in Mike Brown.

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Speaker 1: He's a veteran. It's going to take him a while

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. The Knicks fans wanted to jump

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Speaker 1: off of one of those you know, those those New York,

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Speaker 1: The Knicks have a lot of elements that a lot

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Speaker 1: trade him tomorrow. Mihale Bridges, Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson, even

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Speaker 1: Kat can score against almost any big The Knicks are

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Speaker 1: not fools Gold. But what you're watching with Lebron? I

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Speaker 1: saw stat this morning. Do you know who the three

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Speaker 1: number one? Do you know who number two is? Lebron?

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Speaker 1: You know who number three is? Luca? In the entire league,

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Speaker 1: they have two of the three slowest players. What does

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Speaker 1: that mean. It's roster construction, and when Austin Reeves comes back,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be fools gold. The Lakers should have

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Speaker 1: watched what Dallas did with Luca. When you have a

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Speaker 1: you surround him with Draymond Green, Klay Thompson in his prime,

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Speaker 1: have doubled down on Luca just less talented. Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 1: They just keep adding players who are not athletic, fast, quick,

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Speaker 1: Luca succeeded in Dallas, they had Daniel Jones, they had

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Speaker 1: they were athletic. You've got to cover for Luca. And

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Speaker 1: I've said this before about Luca. When he came to

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Speaker 1: his prime, Burden their prime. These guys gave you maximum

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Speaker 1: better version. It's never going to be in great shape

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Speaker 1: for any extended period. He's not interested. Defense is a hobby.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he's into it, and then he loses patience or interest.

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Speaker 1: And so these new owners inherited this Lakers situation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the next record looks like the Lakers record, but when

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Speaker 1: they play you can see the clear difference. They've got defend.

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Speaker 1: Oh Je's a defender. They by the way, the Knicks

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Speaker 1: realize Jalen Brunson's a below average defender, so they get

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Speaker 1: guys who can defend. Mikhale Bridges, og Josh Hart. It

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Speaker 1: gives you everything he's got, right, They had the kid

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Speaker 1: de Vincenza, who, by the way, done a great defender,

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Speaker 1: great effort player, but they had to eventually move off him.

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Speaker 1: Another great tough guy. So I'm watching this yesterday and

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Speaker 1: they've got the best player, Luca. But do the Lakers

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Speaker 1: and the new owners realize when you have Luca, you've

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Speaker 1: and Austin Reeves and Lebron. That's not the answer. That

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Speaker 1: is the opposite of the answer. Here's Lebron after the loss,

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Speaker 1: on playing potentially his last game at the Garden.

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Speaker 5: At the end of day, everything has to come to

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Speaker 5: a end at some point. So no matter what it is,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be like, I would never play again

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Speaker 5: in Madison Square Garden. I will never play again at

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Speaker 5: certain arenas, I will never play again period. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: at that point, you know it doesn't matter. You're gonna

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Speaker 5: always miss it. You're gona miss the game in general,

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't This one will always have a special

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Speaker 5: place in the journey because it is Madison Square Guard.

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Speaker 1: All right, j Mac, you've probably already made your bets.

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Speaker 1: I usually in a Super Bowl I have a strong

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Speaker 1: definitive feel. I try to talk myself into stuff I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't and out of stuff I shouldn't. And if somebody

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Speaker 1: comes up today, I'll tell them again Seattle's got the

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Speaker 1: better team. But I think I like New England.

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Speaker 6: I think you dropped that Patriots stat on the fired coaches.

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Speaker 6: I had to look that up. I'm like, there's no

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Speaker 6: way they have that many opponents. That fired eleven that's insane.

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Speaker 6: I've never heard anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Eleven games the team they played fire their coach. So

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Speaker 1: last year one of us got the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Right, Eagles in a romp, I'll go Seattle by double

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Speaker 6: digits in.

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Speaker 1: This Wow, Well you know it'd make me happy Sam Darnald,

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Speaker 1: of course, Well yeah, I mean I think it's well established.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy.

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Speaker 6: The executives told me, you may need to take a

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Speaker 6: day off for the parade. If Sam Darnal wins it,

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Speaker 6: you may need to go and see that bad boy.

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Speaker 6: And I'll be like, I have fine, I'll all down

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Speaker 6: the fourth.

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Speaker 1: So coming up next, there's one thing. I always thought

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Speaker 1: the Vikings were well run, and then they just unraveled

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings? What did we learn from them firing this

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Speaker 1: there is something to learn here that's coming up. Pits

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Speaker 1: Did you find it tedious, annoying or refreshing and fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: That doesn't surprise me at all about Peyton Manning, by

429
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Speaker 8: the way. I mean, even the two weeks he probably

430
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Speaker 8: he probably was petitioning the league to get rid of

431
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Speaker 8: the bye week before. I mean I've heard stories about

432
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Speaker 8: him even like, Hey, this is how we're gonna do.

433
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Speaker 3: Travel with the family.

434
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Speaker 8: Family, you can stay with the players, and you know,

435
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Speaker 8: I've heard stories.

436
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Speaker 3: About Peyton be like whoa, whoa, whoa. No, there's going

437
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Speaker 3: to be no family staying with players. You know, like

438
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: kind of like, uh no.

439
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 8: Every team's different, and you know, I think that when

440
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 8: your organization has experience playing in Super Bowls, you know,

441
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 8: some teams.

442
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: They can just it's like autopilot, you know.

443
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 8: I know for the Seahawks, it's kind of like there's

444
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 8: a group of people that are just like the advanced team,

445
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 8: the super Bowl team, like they've got it all dial Hey,

446
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 8: we're in charge of the advanced team for the families,

447
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 8: you know, and then there's a group of people that

448
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 8: are just in charge of the advanced team for the players,

449
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 8: and then advanced team for the equipment managers and.

450
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Speaker 3: You know all the stuff.

451
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Speaker 8: So think what the New England Patriots are doing, Like

452
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 8: they think this is just normal. This is like a

453
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 8: preseason game to them in terms of like that routine.

454
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Speaker 8: And so I think if you make it a big deal,

455
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 8: it can be a big deal. But I can promise

456
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Speaker 8: you that, you know, Mike Rabel's going to talk about

457
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 8: this like like he's done it before, kind of like yeah,

458
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 8: and then we're going to do this, and then Friday

459
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Speaker 8: is going to be a Wednesday, and Wednesday's going to

460
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Speaker 8: be a you know, a Thursday, and then Sunday we're off,

461
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Speaker 8: and then you know, just talking about it like it

462
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 8: is just what we do.

463
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: This is just our super Bowl schedule.

464
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Speaker 8: And I know for me, when Mike Hongrin was our

465
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Speaker 8: head coach, we as players took a lot of confidence

466
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 8: from that. You know, him and most of his staff.

467
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 8: They were there with Bill Walsh and Joe Montana and

468
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 8: Steve Young and San Franz doing this. They were there

469
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 8: in Green Bay with Brett fav and Reggie White doing this,

470
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 8: and so like when they said, hey, here's the schedule.

471
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Speaker 8: As a player, for me, I just turned my brain

472
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Speaker 8: off and I was like, Holmegren's got it, you know,

473
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 8: like he's doing the Bill Walsh thing. And so I

474
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 8: think in a similar way, that's how they're going to

475
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 8: feel about Mike Vrabel And I'll give you like Mike

476
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 8: McDonald just gives you that vibe also, and then the

477
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Speaker 8: people in the building are mostly the Pete Carroll people

478
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 8: as well.

479
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: So I've talked to different players about that first series

480
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, like it just it's just you

481
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: go two hours after the game You're like, I don't

482
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: remember a lot about it. And so for Drake May

483
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and Darnold it's just different. I mean, it's go to

484
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Speaker 1: your first series. You know, Matt was interesting. Even Brady

485
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, they never scored touchdowns in the first

486
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: quarter they came. They were they were always very cautious.

487
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: It was a feeling out quarter. Go take me to

488
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: your first series. Was it numbing? Do you remember a

489
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: lot of it? Was it flash bulbs and just kind

490
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: of lost.

491
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Listen, I was ready to burst.

492
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Speaker 8: Okay, Like I mentioned like about Peyton, like ready to

493
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 8: play on that first Sunday, saying like we're all ready

494
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 8: creatures have habit, yes, and so to wait two weeks

495
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 8: you were like dying to get out there.

496
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Speaker 3: You know.

497
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Speaker 8: For me, you know, I also have regrets sometimes, Like

498
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 8: Daryl Jackson was a wide receiver, he was probably our

499
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 8: number one receiver, had missed a ton of time, and

500
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 8: I was begging him to, Hey, you got to make

501
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 8: it back for the playoffs. You got to make it

502
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 8: back for the playoffs. If you do, I'm going to

503
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 8: make you super Bowl MVP. I'm going to make you

504
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl MVP. And I threw my first five

505
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 8: passes of the game to him. He's our strong side

506
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 8: receiver to the tight end side. I just wanted to

507
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 8: get him going, and and we did get him going.

508
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 8: I mean he had he had caught a touchdown that

509
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 8: got called back. But what happened on the next series

510
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 8: was Dick Lebou the decordinator, was like, Oh, they're trying

511
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 8: to throw to that strong side receiver.

512
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Speaker 3: I'm going to change what we're doing.

513
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 8: He made an in game adjustment after the first sea

514
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 8: that really kind of spooked all the stuff that I

515
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 8: had studied, you know, tendencies and all that kind of stuff.

516
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 8: So I'm sometimes kicking myself for that kind of stuff.

517
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 8: Like I think the lesson would be for any quarterback,

518
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 8: don't try to do anything unique that like, remember what

519
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 8: got you here, Spread the ball around, take what the

520
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 8: defense gives you. Get a bunch of snapshot pictures that

521
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 8: you can go to the sidelines and see, hey, this

522
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 8: is their plan versus three wides, this is their plan

523
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 8: versus two tights, you know, and then come back and

524
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 8: talk about it. You don't have to do anything that

525
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 8: you didn't do all season long.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. I was watching Netflix had a

527
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: special It's the Boys of eighty the Miracle on Ice

528
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: and Herb Brooks when they were playing against Czechoslovaki and

529
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Speaker 1: the Russians. He kept saying, play your game. They're not

530
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: playing their game, they're reacting to us. Play your game.

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Speaker 1: And I always think it's interesting, For instance, you can

532
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Speaker 1: say that, but what if the game unravels, Like I

533
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: can see a scenario where Seattle's just speed and length

534
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: is a lot for the offense of line for New

535
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: England to handle and listen I watched Houston sort of

536
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: make New England very uncomfortable. I outside of that Rams game,

537
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: Seattle's never uncomfortable. Seattle makes people uncomfortable. Do you worry

538
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: that Drake May, who's had, you know, a very nice

539
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: brief career, that a line could get overwhelmed? Is there

540
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: a part in big games that you played when instead

541
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: of play your game, you're like, guys, it's not working.

542
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Because I think most people believe Matt if this became

543
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: a blowout, Seattle's probably not getting run out of the building.

544
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: But the old Seahawks team leads in the boom. In

545
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: this Seahawk team, they've humiliated people this year.

546
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah they have.

547
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Speaker 8: But the Patriots are much better than people are giving

548
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 8: them credit for. And when you say play your game,

549
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 8: referencing Herb Brooks, like, the Patriots can say that, let's

550
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 8: play Patriots football and you don't have to wonder what

551
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 8: that is. Like, let's get back to doing what we

552
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 8: want to do. Screen game is going to be a

553
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 8: huge thing. Josh McDaniels, huge screen guy, Huge screen guy.

554
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 8: So you you know you want to like rush the passer,

555
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 8: but when you know they've got every which way to

556
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 8: run screens to Remandra Stevenson and Traveon Henderson and even

557
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 8: to Hunter Henry, and then you get the wide receiver

558
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 8: screen game, and then Matt Collins is a factor as

559
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 8: a blocker out there like those now in later plays

560
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 8: like that they happen right now or way later, and

561
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 8: you got to worry.

562
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: About those right now plays against this team.

563
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 8: And so I know, I think the other thing is,

564
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 8: just like they do run the ball, they commit to running.

565
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: I think both these teams commit to running it.

566
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 8: Their run game efficiencies aren't going to like blow you

567
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 8: out of the water, but they stick to it. So

568
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 8: if they say play Patriots football to get us settled down,

569
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 8: I'm not worried about Drake May in this game. Like

570
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 8: he's the least of my worries. Really, the protection of

571
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 8: Drake May would be my concern because of how good

572
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 8: this you know, Front four for the Seahawks is. But again,

573
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 8: like I have confidence in Josh McDaniel's understanding how to

574
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 8: slow that rush down. And then I'll say it again,

575
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 8: I've been saying it, maybe me too much, but all

576
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 8: year long, you practice these trick plays and if you

577
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 8: haven't run them yet, you're saving them for nothing like.

578
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: You run them in a game like this. And listen, I.

579
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Speaker 8: Lost to Super Bowl because Bruce arians had the courage

580
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 8: to call like basically a double double reverse pass with

581
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Speaker 8: Antoine Randalll throwing it to hinz Ward Josh McDaniels.

582
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: He's he's got him in his bag.

583
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 8: And Patriot fans know all about the Philly special, Like

584
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 8: trick plays are coming in this game. So you can't

585
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 8: just close your eyes rush the passer. This, this will

586
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 8: be a football game. This, this will not be a

587
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Speaker 8: blowout in my mind.

588
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Do you worry? Listen, Sam Darnold succeeded at the end

589
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: in Carolina, he succeeded in Minnesota and Seattle. But Clint

590
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Kubiak is probably going to get the Raiders job. Do

591
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: you worry about Donald next year? And do you worry

592
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: about that story sort of engulfing the Seahawks As everybody

593
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: in the building knows. I mean, if you have a

594
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: great job, your first head coaching job coming, I don't

595
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: know how concentrate rate. I mean that's like your first

596
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: big career break. Do you worry about that Kubiak situation

597
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: where it's like he's he's leaving and everybody in the

598
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: building knows it.

599
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 8: I'm not worried about Sam next year. I'm worried about

600
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 8: Sam this week. And yes, I've been I've been there

601
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 8: where your coach, your guy, he's getting a promotion and

602
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 8: you know he's already accepted that job, and you know

603
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 8: that his time is not one hundred percent on the mission,

604
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 8: and the mission is hoist hoisting a Lobardi. He's doing

605
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 8: job interviews and you're not like upset about it, You're

606
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 8: not upset with him. But the process is the process.

607
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 8: I mean, I've had I've had quarterback coaches do it.

608
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 8: I've had coordinators do it like it's it's it's a

609
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 8: bad feeling.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad feeling.

611
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Speaker 8: So I think the what you need to do is

612
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 8: some hw somehow make it a good thing, somehow make

613
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 8: it like, you know what, this team right here, this

614
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 8: special team, this journey that we've been on together, we

615
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 8: will never be together again. Like we have a chance

616
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 8: to do something together this week, and that's it will

617
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 8: never be together again as this unit. Let's do it together,

618
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 8: players and coaches, And with players you're used to that.

619
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 8: With coaches you're a little less used to that. So

620
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 8: they got to just turn that and rally that kind

621
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 8: of a mindset where it's you know, this is still

622
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 8: the twenty twenty five, twenty six Seahawks team. We're together

623
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 8: one more time, and we'll worry about tomorrow some other day.

624
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting Drake May's not taking a ton

625
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: of snaps because of a shoulder injury, and I think

626
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: to myself, well, Sam Darnold took almost no snaps in

627
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: the previous two games. He just played his best game

628
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: as a pro. And I remember when Sean McVay came

629
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: into the league and he said, I'm not playing my

630
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: starters in the preseason and people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

631
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: and they went eight no, right, And I think about

632
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: this that have we overstated how much practice you need

633
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: by the end of the season. And when I read

634
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: at Drake may'story or a Sam Donald story, you know,

635
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: my initial concern is, Oh, they're out of rhythm. And

636
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Sam just played a great defense and his best game

637
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: as a pro and he wasn't practicing. What do you

638
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: make of that?

639
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 8: No, I hear what you're saying, but I think sometimes

640
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 8: an injury can make you a better player in a

641
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 8: weird way, you know, like you don't try to play

642
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 8: outside of yourself.

643
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Speaker 3: You play on time.

644
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 8: You don't take three hitches in the pocket because you're

645
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 8: not feeling one hundred percent. You're sitting there and you're like, okay,

646
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 8: one hitch to hitch, check down.

647
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm done.

648
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to be Superman today. I can be

649
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 8: Clark Kent because I'm playing with a bunch of Supermans.

650
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: I'm good.

651
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 8: I can just you know, add water and stir today. Now,

652
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 8: you know, you still got to make those throws when

653
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 8: they're ready to be made. And I think, like just

654
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 8: even going back to the NFC Championship game for Sam

655
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 8: Donald as an example, because he did not practice, didn't

656
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 8: throw much, didn't throw deep.

657
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean he made it look effortless.

658
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 8: On his first touchdown to Jake Bobo, you know, as

659
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 8: a play action to the right corner blitz they're trying

660
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 8: to throw to JSN.

661
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: He's done. He just you know, two hitches.

662
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 8: Comes back and boom us or nobody right down the

663
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 8: middle to Bobo like it was nothing. So, you know,

664
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 8: playing on rhythm, I know that sometimes when I've been

665
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 8: sick with the flu or sometimes when I've had an

666
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 8: injury where I'm like, hey, I know I can start

667
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 8: this game, I'm not one hundred percent sure I can

668
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 8: finish this game. You play more like the coaches have

669
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 8: been asked, Hey, we got a great punter, we got

670
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 8: a great defense. Just play within our little system here

671
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 8: and we'll be fine.

672
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: That is really funny. It's like the governor gets turned

673
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: down naturally in your body and you play the game

674
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: the coaches want you to.

675
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 8: Play, and can I just add on that calling though.

676
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 8: It doesn't mean you can't throw the ball deeper, you

677
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 8: can't take shots. You've got to have training wheels on.

678
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 8: You can still throw a go route forty eight yards

679
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 8: down field if they ever leave rashicha heat or JSN

680
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 8: one on one, but you can't do it in more

681
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 8: than two hitches.

682
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: You take your drop to one or two hitches and

683
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: then we're moving on. Like the ball's out of your

684
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: hands somewhere.

685
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. The the first week, last week of practice, I

686
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: imagine you install the game. What do you do in

687
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: terms of football, just a football part, What do you

688
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: do this week?

689
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 8: It's a game week, it's a game week, and it's

690
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 8: a cleanup. It's also rest is very really important as well.

691
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 8: And you know, as an NFL football player now even

692
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 8: at the end of my career, they all wear a

693
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 8: catapult system where it's got a accelerometers in there. It

694
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 8: measures how fast you run, how quick, how many bursts

695
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 8: you have, how many stops you have, and they're they're

696
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 8: you know, working load management, and so like there's this

697
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 8: is a very scientific thing. It's not just a feeld thing.

698
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 8: But you also lay the schedule out for the week.

699
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 8: And when you say to a football player in the NFL,

700
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 8: today is a Wednesday, we all know what that means.

701
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 8: Like we don't know what day it really is in

702
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 8: the real world. We have no idea, but we know

703
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 8: that we're doing first and second down today.

704
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: We know that.

705
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 8: And when you say, hey, today is a Thursday, Okay,

706
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 8: we're gonna do some review of first and second down,

707
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 8: but we're gonna do third down and maybe short yardage

708
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 8: and go line. And then you say today is a Friday.

709
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 8: As an example, okay, today is a red zone emphasis.

710
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 8: The old line's not going to be as physical, the

711
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 8: D line's not going to be as physical. But on

712
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 8: the outside, the seven on seven guys, we're going fast.

713
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: You know, like things like that. Now, you could tweak it.

714
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 8: Where some people make one day a different day, but

715
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 8: that is really what you're doing. You're not adding another

716
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 8: game plan, You're not adding two weeks of football in.

717
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 8: You're sort of to use an old Abraham Linking quote,

718
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 8: you're not swinging the acts harder. You're just simply sharpening

719
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 8: the blade.

720
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get the final question? When you're a

721
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: pro athlete, they either legendary stories. Bill Russell threw up

722
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: before every game. That's very unique. You're walking out to

723
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: the field for the Super Bowl for the first time.

724
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean this is for Sam Darnold and Drake May.

725
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Did you at that point in your career, despite all

726
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: the preparation, were you was our little awe inspiring? Did

727
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: you get nervous?

728
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: Well?

729
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 8: I would say, going back to the Bill Russell thing,

730
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 8: I played with a lot of guys, great players that

731
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 8: would throw up before games. Like great players, you kind

732
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 8: of see them going to the thing, and then you

733
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 8: hear them just hurling, like ah, like what's going on

734
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 8: in there? And then your Hall of Fame teammate comes

735
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 8: walking back out and you're like, really, dude, you're throwing up?

736
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Okay, you know.

737
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 8: I'm not nervous anymore. You you know, for me, no,

738
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 8: that wasn't really my situation.

739
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: You know.

740
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 8: I would huddle with the quarterbacks and usually the centers

741
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 8: and say a prayer almost to calm myself down because

742
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 8: I was so excited. This is a dream come true.

743
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 8: I can't believe you're paying me to do this, Like,

744
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 8: this is awesome. I am having so much fun. This

745
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 8: is incredible. And then what happens in the super Bowl.

746
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 8: It's a neutral site, but they will play when you

747
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 8: come out of the tunnel.

748
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Speaker 3: A lot of times they will play a song.

749
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 8: Now I'm getting goosebumps now, Like in Seattle they would

750
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 8: play this bittersweet symphony song for us. It's a song

751
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 8: that you play in your home stadium, and it's like, no, no,

752
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 8: that's our song. Like I don't know whoever sang that song.

753
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 8: They didn't take it for us, but we decided it's

754
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 8: our song. And this is a home game for us.

755
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 8: And so I think for both teams, they're gonna come

756
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 8: out of those tunnels and they're gonna hear that song

757
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 8: that they're used to hearing in Fox Burrow, that song

758
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 8: that they're used to hearing a lumin field and they're

759
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 8: gonna be like, you know, it's it's on. Like the

760
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 8: problem is you got all this extra time usually come

761
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 8: out of the tunnel and it's time to go. Now

762
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 8: there's like an anthem and a pageant tree and all

763
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 8: this stuff.

764
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you're you're already amped up. Yeah, I can feel

765
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: it with you.

766
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 8: It's my old team calling. It's on my it's my

767
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 8: old team against my dad's old team. This is a

768
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 8: it's a cool matchup, and it's it's in a great

769
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 8: city and uh it's it's you know, San Jose to

770
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 8: San Fran Like, it's everybody's here in town for it.

771
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: It's really neat.

772
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: Great see anybody. Matt asselback, all right,