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Therésa: Hello, my haunting honies. I've been looking forward to getting

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Therésa: back in the booth all week. It's been a while,

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Therésa: I think maybe longer, or maybe it hasn't been long

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Therésa: at all. The linearity of time is hard to grasp here,

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Therésa: so we'll just say a week. I've been waiting to

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Therésa: tell everyone that I'm finally getting the hang of the haunt.

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Therésa: My first few weeks in purgatory, I was so like,

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Therésa: where am I I'm dead? Kill me! Oh wait ha-ha.

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Therésa: But now I'm really getting my sea legs, kind of

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Therésa: like the time I got motion sickness on Leo's yacht.

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Therésa: Until the Aparall Sprints' and Dramamine kicked in.

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Therésa: Fine. It was a pontoon boat called the DiCaprio and

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Therésa: the captain's name was Leonard, whatever. Point is, after being

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Therésa: in perg for a while, I've learned you can just pop

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Therésa: in on whoever, whenever. Len, do you ever pop in

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Therésa: on the living?

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Len: (mumbles)

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Therésa: Your wife? Okay, sad.

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Therésa: I've found it's fun to pop in on the people

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Therésa: who are least expecting it. It's like crashing a party.

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Therésa: At first, everyone's confused, then freaked out, then they demand

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Therésa: you leave but at least the next day they've got

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Therésa: a great little story to tell. Like our next guest, Jill,

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Therésa: whose weekend in the woods was ruined by a paranormal

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Therésa: party crasher.

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Story A: We're driving up the mountain and it's so much later

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Story A: than we'd expected, and so it was already much darker.

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Story A: And then, out of nowhere, this figure all of a

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Story A: sudden appears in the middle of the road. All of

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Story A: us were terrified.

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Story A: I'm Jill, and I felt like I was living in

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Story A: a real- life horror film.

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Story A: At the time, I was part of an event bartending company.

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Story A: We would host events from weddings to Oscars parties, to

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Story A: Halloween parties to these retreats, and we would curate cocktails

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Story A: specifically for the event and show up and be part

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Story A: of the entertainment, per se.

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Story A: It was five years ago. We were hired to host

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Story A: and provide the bar experience at Camp Navarro for these

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Story A: camping and outdoorsy social media influencers. The atmosphere of Camp

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Story A: Navarro lent itself to be just utterly stunning. Camp Navarro

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Story A: is in northern California, which is right around the Sequoia

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Story A: National Forests, where you have the largest trees: redwoods, sequoias.

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Story A: It's beautiful. It's perfect weather. It was right in early fall;

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Story A: at night, there was just a hint of crispness in the air.

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Story A: There were twelve of us going, actors, models and musicians.

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Story A: You know, this is one of our side hustles. Nine

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Story A: of us rode in the sprinter van, and three rode

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Story A: in the front of the box car truck that held

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Story A: all the supplies.

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Story A: About two- thirds of the way up there, the box

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Story A: up pulling off, and so that made everyone start to

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Story A: get a little nervous, just because we didn't know exactly

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Story A: where we were going, and you don't like to set

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Story A: right the group. We were already behind schedule because we're

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Story A: from Los Angeles, and we're always late. As we're going

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Story A: around the mountain, it's pitch dark, and so you're going, of course,

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Story A: quite slowly. Off to the side, like down the slope,

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Story A: you start to see these eyes glinting. There's something that

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Story A: You just kind of see these little flashes just looking

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Story A: at us, and it's so eerie. And then out of nowhere,

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Story A: three deer jumped across, almost hitting our sprinter van. Everything

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Story A: comes to a screeching hall. We all lurch forward.

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Story A: There has been an entire herd of deer staring at us.

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Story A: They're wild animals in the forest, but this was weird.

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Story A: It's like they were welcoming us ominously, which was terrifying.

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Story A: We continue driving. It's pitch dark, but at this point,

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Story A: Nobody had printed out a map, so we're relying on

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Story A: make sure that we're kind of going in that general direction.

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Story A: We realized we'd passed a camp. Okay, so we back up.

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Story A: As we're entering into the main entrance, this shadowy figure

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Story A: appears in the middle of the road.

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Story A: It was this really old country man with a hat, long

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Story A: hook on one hand? Are you going to kill us?

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Story A: But then he motioned us to enter the camp. He

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Story A: was like, are you the bartenders? He was the maintenance

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Story A: worker for Camp Navarro, so we were in the right place.

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Story A: But truly, this is not a good sign. I was

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Story A: sitting in the back of the sprinter ban going, well,

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Story A: All these really pretty people driving up to this random

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Story A: job that nobody knows them. We could just easily be

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Story A: The scary old maintenance worker at the camp then directed

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Story A: and finally meet the event organizers.

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Story A: We had been told that we were sleeping in the

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Story A: the main cabins. They tried to make it sound like

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Story A: it was really a step up, but we were like,

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Story A: this will be fine. And the organizers said, oh, you're

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Story A: cabin number thirteen. Of course we're in cabin number thirteen.

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Story A: That old man was terrifying, and now we're in cabin thirteen.

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Story A: Sounds right.

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Story A: Well, all of us grab our things to trot ourselves

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Story A: down to cabin thirteen. It's a traditional camp log cabin.

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Story A: Just imagine the creaky door sound as you push the

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Story A: There are two sets of bunkbeds immediately on either side

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Story A: Directly across from the open door is a big full length- mirror.

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Story A: There was no hallway, no bathroom. You had to trek

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Story A: and it was a good like two- minute walk in

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Story A: the dark with people you don't know around you. Which

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Story A: as any woman who has ever been taught anything it's like,

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Story A: you don't go anywhere by yourself in the dark with

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Story A: It's probably like two in the morning. We're finally in

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Story A: the cabin. My bunk bed was the first one on

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Story A: the right- hand side, right next to the door, and

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Story A: I was a top bunk. Everyone's like, we got to

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Story A: get up at like eight the next morning. We got

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Story A: to call it the night. But because there had been so

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Story A: much going on, my brain is just going a mile

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Story A: a minute, and I am lying there in the dark,

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Story A: taking myself through calming exercises and relaxation exercises to just

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Story A: tell my brain to shut off. Even though I'm keeping

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Story A: As I start to feel sort of relaxed, I hear

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Story A: the door open, and I immediately feel this cold breeze

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Story A: wafted over everything. I looked across into the full- length

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Story A: mirror at the other end of the cabin. What I

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Story A: saw in that reflection was definitely not a member of

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Story A: our group. I saw this shadow figure right in the

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Story A: middle of the doorway.

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Story A: This figure was female. She had a very pointed face.

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Story A: Was very slender. Her hair was parted in the middle,

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Story A: straight back into a bun. She was wearing round aviator goggles,

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Story A: like old- fashioned flying goggles like Amelia Earhart goggles. And a coat.

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Story A: She was just standing there. She didn't speak out loud,

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Story A: but I could feel her energy shift towards my direction.

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Story A: This cold air just kind of lingered there for quite

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Story A: a while, even though our heater was on. It shouldn't

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Story A: have stayed as cold as it did. At this point,

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Story A: I am very scared. As gently and as softly as

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Story A: I could, I started to slide my body towards the

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Story A: wall and away from the edge of the bunk bed

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Story A: so I'd be as far away as possible from whatever

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Story A: this was that was coming in. There was a palpable sense

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Story A: of her telling me, or yearning to be, like, you

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Story A: And at that point, it wasn't a friendly energy. It

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Story A: was an angry energy. I reached out for my phone

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Story A: and just clicked on the home screen, and it said

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Story A: 3:14 in the morning, right in the middle of the

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Story A: witching hour.

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Story A: That lit up our cabin. The entity is no longer there.

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Story A: I shut my eyes hard, and I started praying because

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Story A: I did not want to let that cross into my world.

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Story A: It was almost like this creature was searching for something,

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Story A: wanted something, wanted an answer to something, and when I

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Story A: didn't respond, it felt angry that I was refusing to

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Story A: listen to their command of looking over at them.

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Story A: And this sounds weird, but afterwards, I kind of felt bad.

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Story A: It almost felt like this lost soul. The lines between

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Story A: the living and the dead and the spiritual world, I

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Story A: think are probably closer than we'd like to admit.

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Therésa: I'd give anything to get drunk in the woods just

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Therésa: one more time. And I know what you're thinking, Therésa,

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Therésa: there's no way you'd sleep outside. Well believe it. I

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Therésa: was something of a girl scout back in the day.

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Therésa: That's right, I camped Coachella weekend too.

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Therésa: But for our next true tale, we're leaving the wilderness

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Therésa: behind and making a beeline for New York City. Our

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Therésa: friend Jen got in a little over her head dabbling

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Therésa: in the occult when surprise, surprise, she got haunted.

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Therésa: But you guys don't invite us in and then get

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Therésa: upset when we show up. It's like the time I

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Therésa: pity invited my annoying friend Mallory to our Hampton sharehouse

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Therésa: for Memorial Day weekend, knowing she was supposed to be

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Therésa: in Palm Beach with her family, but then she ditched

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Therésa: her family and came with us instead. And it's like, yeah,

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Therésa: that was my fault. Sure, I hit her with the non- vitation,

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Therésa: but what can you do send an un-vitation?

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Story B: Morgan was looking for a roommate, so wethought, let's try

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Story B: and live together. We found this really beautiful apartment in Harlem.

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Story B: We were right across the street from Central Park. I

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Story B: think that's what sold us on the apartment.

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Story B: This apartment was very much an upgrade, and I had

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Story B: room for a bigger bed. I didn't want to buy

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Story B: a new bed, so my parents offered to give me the

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Story B: bed that I used in my bedroom when I lived

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Story B: with them. I brought this beautiful, old- new queen sized

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Story B: bad into my apartment. Everything changed after that.

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Story B: My name is Jen, and I invited something evil into

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Story B: my home.

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Story B: Jen and I actually met at work. We were working

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Story B: in digital advertising. We were actually on the same team

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Story B: and quickly became fast friends.

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Story B: Going to happy hours after work and hanging out. We moved

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Story B: into that apartment in January 2017 . The apartment was

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Story B: so beautiful. It was in this really old building on

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Story B: 110th Street in Harlem. It was a two bedroom and

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Story B: the bedrooms were on opposite sides. We had really high

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Story B: ceilings with beautiful molding. There was a washer/ dryer, and

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Story B: it was right across the street from Central Park North.

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Story B: This is actually the first time that I lived in

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Story B: an apartment building that was basically back to back with

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Story B: another apartment building.

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Story B: I am, you know, definitely a spiritual person. Over the years, I

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Story B: had gotten a little more involved in some occult practices,

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Story B: tarot reading, astrology, meditation and setting intentions and burning candles.

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Story B: On the flip side, my roommate Morgan, is a very

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Story B: devout Christian.

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Story B: I don't really dabble in tarot cards or anything like that.

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Story B: Even though we, at the time, were practicing very different things,

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Story B: had very different beliefs about the world and God. We

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Story B: had really interesting conversations about these very topics, and we

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Story B: respected each other a lot.

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Story B: I wanted to set an intention for myself for that summer,

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Story B: to be more in touch with my spirit guides or

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Story B: just more in touch with the universe, and kind of

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Story B: be able to see what I'm doing and how that's

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Story B: very clear to me that she wasn't going to want

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Story B: Being a born again Christian and very active in my church,

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Story B: I was like, I'm not going to allow this to

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Story B: Morgan called me back after talking to her friend and said, Okay,

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Story B: I was like, hey, would you mind coming over and

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Story B: When my roommate and her friend came over, we decided

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Story B: As soon as we say amen. The woman in the

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Story B: It was really like a blood curling scream. It was disturbing.

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Story B: You couldn't unhear it.

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Story B: We had goosebumps all over our arms. There was no

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Story B: doubt that her wails and her screams of agony felt related.

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Story B: We told it to leave, and immediately she's crying and screaming,

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Story B: and it was so incredibly chilling. All three of us

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Story B: She screamed the entire time we took it down to

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Story B: because I think that this entity was torturing her, and

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Story B: I think that I drew it in with my little

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Story B: After we got the bed out, the screaming dies down,

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Story B: I'm starting to calm down, feel a little normal. I get

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Story B: a phone call from my dad. He said, your mom

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Story B: and I was kind of like, "yeah, we already got

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Story B: that when my grandparents bought their summer house on Lake

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Story B: That house is one hundred percent haunted. Everyone who's ever

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Story B: One night, two of my own sisters were trying to

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Story B: One of my other sisters was on the third floor

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Story B: and blinds would snap open, we would hear floorboards creek.

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Story B: My cousin had friends up one weekend and they fled

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Story B: in the middle of the night. And when my cousin

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Story B: So for me to find out that the bed was

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Story B: something clicked. I always believed in the paranormal prior to this,

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Story B: I look back now and I think that me lighting

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Story B: a ouija board and not knowing what they were doing. I

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Story B: think that at that time I didn't think that there

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Story B: were evil, malevolent spirits. I thought ghosts were just people

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Story B: who passed and didn't move on. But now I really

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Therésa: The second I heard washer/ dryer and a queen size bed

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Therésa: in New York, I knew there had to be a catch.

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Therésa: They say the West Coast is kind but not nice,

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Therésa: and the East Coast is nice but not kind, but

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Therésa: foisting a demonic spirit on your neighbor doesn't sound nice

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Therésa: or kind. Kidding! I would have done the same thing.

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Therésa: Anyway, that's all we've got for now. If anyone is

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Therésa: in the mood for a scare, I would absolutely love

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Therésa: to be invited somewhere cute. Maybe like a rustic cabin

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Therésa: or a haunted chalet moment a little purgatory pied-à-terre for

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Therésa: when Len's being a huge bummer.

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Therésa: (mumbles)Messing with you, Len, You're the best.

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Len: (mumbles)

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Therésa: As always, shoot us an email at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com if you or a

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Therésa: friends got a haunting they'd like to share on the pod.

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Therésa: Oh Naomi, where are we with merch? What do you mean? Look,

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Therésa: let's be ready next week? Okay, because I feel like

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Therésa: this isn't the first time I've asked you about it

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Therésa: and you said you were on it, remember, or you

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Therésa: shrieked it. I don't know whatever that sound is that

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Therésa: you make, you did that. It's okay, I'm just I'm

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Therésa: saying for next time. Well, stay tuned for updates on

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Therésa: merch and we'll see you next incalculable stretch of time,

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Therésa: possibly a week, on Haunting.

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