Speaker 1: Hey, fam, I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the
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Speaker 1: I invited one of my favorite people to join us today,
Speaker 1: Tiffany Hattish Jada Jada Jada. Hello. She's loud, she's funny,
Speaker 1: she's in your face, and you'll always know when she's around.
Speaker 1: Tap Jada. She's overcome foster care, I literacy, homelessness, and
Speaker 1: has now hustled her way into the heart of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: We brought me call because I love Hey, I'm not
Speaker 1: how what kind of call is this? That is Tusk
Speaker 1: and Kaleka can't brain for the vitamins And you can
Speaker 1: have that cooler too, I got from targets. Get ready
Speaker 1: for one of the most motivating and hilarious talks at
Speaker 1: the Red Table with my girl Tiffany. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do this. You there, Okay, So you brought me a gift?
Speaker 1: Uh huh I did? Okay, I brought you a gift? Okay,
Speaker 1: oh sheep you Yeah, she is gorgeous. So y'all know,
Speaker 1: every time I see Tiffany, I give her a bag
Speaker 1: of some kind. She helping me step my game up. Gorgeous, Mama,
Speaker 1: it's a Valentine. Yes, I said it right to that's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Thank you you think so. I'm really thankful for our friendship.
Speaker 1: When we did Girls Trip, I had no idea who
Speaker 1: you were. You were funny as hell. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a fun movie. But we just clicked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because we've had different experiences, but our backgrounds are
Speaker 1: very similar. We both thought that we're just gonna end
Speaker 1: up being that statistic. Yeah. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a baby mama. Yeah. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a baby mama with like five kids fall baby
Speaker 1: daddy's like collect the County Jack. And so when you
Speaker 1: came up to me one day and you were like,
Speaker 1: I know some of your homeboys in Baltimore A way
Speaker 1: like I go some of your homeboys in Baltimore and
Speaker 1: you were like me and you we got similar stories
Speaker 1: wink wink, And I was like, all right, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be good because I could just be myself. Yea,
Speaker 1: you created something for yourself, and you have been relent less.
Speaker 1: I feel like personally, everything that I've been through has
Speaker 1: prepared me for this journey. Like I used to get
Speaker 1: picked on and believe taught. People used to talk mass
Speaker 1: about me in school. Now I'm like a celebrity. Let's
Speaker 1: hear a little bit about your story, just in case
Speaker 1: a red table Talk family might not know what your
Speaker 1: story is. I'm from South central Los Angeles, born and
Speaker 1: raised my mom. She raised me for quite some time,
Speaker 1: and my brothers and sisters and everything. And she had
Speaker 1: a really bad accident and basically suffering from some traumatic injuries.
Speaker 1: She had brain and yeah, braining her head went through
Speaker 1: a windshield. So as she survived it, and it took
Speaker 1: her like three months to learn how to walk again talk,
Speaker 1: and then it took a long time for her memories
Speaker 1: to come back. And I remember being at the hospital
Speaker 1: and the doctor saying, you know, your mom, she'll never
Speaker 1: be the same. You're gonna have to help her a
Speaker 1: lot more now. So she wasn't able to do a
Speaker 1: lot of things. So basically everything she had talked me
Speaker 1: up to that point, I was teaching her. But she
Speaker 1: became very abusive and violent and never came back to
Speaker 1: being my mom. She was somebody else. You had to
Speaker 1: go into foster care because of your mother's condition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wasn't able to take care of us. Like I was.
Speaker 1: Turning thirteen, my two sisters got placed together in the home,
Speaker 1: My two brothers got placed together in the home, and
Speaker 1: then I had to go to McLaren Hall for like
Speaker 1: a few days because they couldn't find a place for me. Right,
Speaker 1: it's kind of set up like a juvenile detention center.
Speaker 1: I guess it is in some ways for like kids
Speaker 1: with behavioral issues or when they can't find a place
Speaker 1: to place you. So then I'm in McLaren Hall and
Speaker 1: these girls are like, you're gonna cry tonight, We're gonna
Speaker 1: beat your ass. We're gonna bah blah blah. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, come on, ready, there, come on, trying to
Speaker 1: make them laugh and be silly and like, and they
Speaker 1: laughed and everything. They still came for my ass. But
Speaker 1: still it was after that them seeing how silly and
Speaker 1: goofy I was there was like she a clown, she
Speaker 1: or whatever, And it wasn't like trying to beat me
Speaker 1: up on a regular basis. When I think about it, it
Speaker 1: it was really hard, but I'm so grateful for the
Speaker 1: experience because I got to see how other people live.
Speaker 1: I thought just my family was my family was crazy
Speaker 1: and got mental issues. But turns out everybody like people,
Speaker 1: people like people. Everybody we all messed up and then
Speaker 1: so it made me just appreciate even more just being
Speaker 1: a human. So what happened as far as you get
Speaker 1: into the tenth grade and and really not being able
Speaker 1: to read, there's really a lot of people. I gotta
Speaker 1: say thank you too, because I cheated for a lot
Speaker 1: of people, and a lot of them got me through
Speaker 1: high school. Was it in high school that you struggled
Speaker 1: with reading or was it before that? It was before
Speaker 1: that end. By a tenth grade, my drama teacher figured
Speaker 1: out I couldn't really read like I could read like
Speaker 1: three letter words for the words of things that you
Speaker 1: see every day. Because the TV, you know, fast school joints.
Speaker 1: I can see that I know what it is. Anyways,
Speaker 1: me in school, this girl, I can't remember her first name.
Speaker 1: I just remember her last name was Lee, and I'll
Speaker 1: try to make sure I always sat behind her. Every
Speaker 1: time there was like a question, she always raised her hands.
Speaker 1: I figured, oh, she's smart. Right, So then I'll be like,
Speaker 1: what you get on that last test? Now, I gotta
Speaker 1: a oh man, you're smart as hell. Can I can maybe?
Speaker 1: Can I see your homework? Let me see, let me
Speaker 1: see if I did my homework right. I didn't do
Speaker 1: my homework at all, and my homework at all, I'm
Speaker 1: just copying basically all her answers. Like that's how I
Speaker 1: got through school, just professionally cheating all the time, even
Speaker 1: like we had to do like an English class and
Speaker 1: it had to do creative writing, right, and so I
Speaker 1: would just get storybooks like Garfield or something like that.
Speaker 1: I just played yourized as the worst. I listen, I'm
Speaker 1: listening to you, and I'm like, I did the same thing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even supposed to graduate to high school. It
Speaker 1: was literally a gift my high school diploma. So your
Speaker 1: hustle was a little stronger than mine because I went
Speaker 1: to an art school, so I had a little bit
Speaker 1: more leniency. Yeah. My favorite story that you told me
Speaker 1: is the story where you found out how funny you were.
Speaker 1: My stepdad used to tell me you're stupid, and then
Speaker 1: my grandma obvious to be saying that I was stupid
Speaker 1: and my aunties would tell me I'm stupid, and my
Speaker 1: mama would say I'm stupid. At that point in time
Speaker 1: my life, anytime somebody said something to me, I would
Speaker 1: take it literal that I was stupid. So I didn't
Speaker 1: really put forth a lot of efforts to try to
Speaker 1: learn how to read or try to It was difficult already,
Speaker 1: and then if I'm stupid, what's the point. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a baby mama. Anyways, I already take care of kids.
Speaker 1: What I need to know how to read for. I
Speaker 1: know what how dogs look like, I know where rices
Speaker 1: look like, and I know how to cook that. I
Speaker 1: know how to use a measurement cup, I know numbers.
Speaker 1: So it was like to me, not necessary. So when
Speaker 1: I started working at the airlines and I was being
Speaker 1: silly at the ticket counter and this girl's like, girl,
Speaker 1: you are so stupid. I was like, you call me
Speaker 1: stupid one more time, and watch what's gonna happen. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a fight up here. She was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying you're funny, right, And I was like, all
Speaker 1: these years probably everybody was saying I was funny. I'm
Speaker 1: nineteen years old, Like damn, I'm funny. So what was
Speaker 1: the turning point for you, TiO? It just seems like
Speaker 1: thout your life you really didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: positive reinforcements. No, but it came from other places though,
Speaker 1: like where my social worker was so instrumental because she
Speaker 1: really paid attention to me and she really noticed that
Speaker 1: I had something, and she got me in that comedy
Speaker 1: camp and that's when I first started getting confidence. And
Speaker 1: maybe I always had confidence and didn't realize it, but
Speaker 1: that really helped me to be confident in who I
Speaker 1: am and what I look like. And I can make
Speaker 1: fun of this and and I thought I was ugly too.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because my social workers to be like,
Speaker 1: you're beautiful, and I'm like, stop. You probably say that
Speaker 1: to all the foster kids so that they don't run away.
Speaker 1: What I love about you is just how you just
Speaker 1: put your intelligence to a hustle. I mean every step
Speaker 1: of the way from your childhood, having to go through
Speaker 1: foster care system, homeless, homeless, and still never gave up.
Speaker 1: Where is your mother now? So I'm so proud of
Speaker 1: myself and her um. In December, we got her out
Speaker 1: the mental institution, got her the best psychologist got her
Speaker 1: the best doctors. She's already lost like thirty pounds. I
Speaker 1: got an apartment in Inglewood and I got hurt and
Speaker 1: my sister staying there and I'm like, I'll cover the rent,
Speaker 1: you cover everything else on mama's side, right, And that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing. It's funny to other that she's at
Speaker 1: my house. This is the first time she said like
Speaker 1: she's proud. How did it make you feel, though, when
Speaker 1: your mother told you that she was proud of girl?
Speaker 1: I was. It took everything in my heart not to
Speaker 1: just break down and cry. I just hut, they're so tight,
Speaker 1: and she was like hol to me and we're on
Speaker 1: each other, just hung it so tight and I'm just
Speaker 1: trying not to cry. And then I went to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: turned on the shower, jumping them up. It was like
Speaker 1: it's like step, we're right there. Y'all didn't get spankings, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not really. Black Little Tiff was everything that's been going
Speaker 1: on in your life as far as the rise, what
Speaker 1: has been the best part. This is probably gonna seem
Speaker 1: like really small, but to me it's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: But when Beyonce said my name in the side, I
Speaker 1: made it this is it. Okay, I'm a celebrity now.
Speaker 1: So the Beyonce story is this. I went to a party,
Speaker 1: Beyonce was there and somebody was acting like they was
Speaker 1: out of order. So they was like pulling on me
Speaker 1: and they put their body parts on me. I ain't
Speaker 1: like that. Then when I found out she been beyond
Speaker 1: like then it was like a whole another level to it.
Speaker 1: So I went to Beyont. I was like, I'm in
Speaker 1: the party, I'm about to get in the fight, and
Speaker 1: I just need to know that this really happened. And
Speaker 1: she said yeah, she said don't do that, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm gonna need a selfie and then
Speaker 1: she took self with me and I didn't fight. In
Speaker 1: my mind, she could have been real mean about it,
Speaker 1: but she protected me and like I would have for
Speaker 1: sure probably went to jail. I know I could have
Speaker 1: got be there, and I hope b knows that that
Speaker 1: that could have all gone very badly, very bad. And
Speaker 1: I wanted her to know that I considered her a
Speaker 1: hero because I was definitely going into my head mentality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want you to know I was happy that she did. Now,
Speaker 1: why do you think they call it celebrity. Why can't
Speaker 1: it just be entertainer? Why because nobody threw me no party.
Speaker 1: I haven't had no celebrations yet, So where is the
Speaker 1: celebraty celebrity? Well, here's the thing. The celebration has been
Speaker 1: through the people. The people have celebrated you. Have you
Speaker 1: noticed that, I mean nice things and stuff, Tiffany, It's
Speaker 1: not just nice things, because what you represent for women
Speaker 1: who have come from similar stories like you. You have
Speaker 1: not allowed your story to make you better. And even
Speaker 1: though it makes you sad and sometimes you really struggle,
Speaker 1: you always reach high. You always reach high. And so
Speaker 1: I think what you've done for so many women who
Speaker 1: felt like they haven't had a voice, who haven't felt validated,
Speaker 1: who feel like they don't matter, you make them matter
Speaker 1: in a certain way. You you present yourself like I'm here,
Speaker 1: we here together. And this is not just about black women.
Speaker 1: I have seen all kinds of women from all different
Speaker 1: walks of life so happy to see you. Every time
Speaker 1: they see me. What's Tiffany like? Like? What is she
Speaker 1: really like? And to me, that's a celebration. People are
Speaker 1: celebrating you in that way, you know, and that's that
Speaker 1: to me more means more than a party. But to me,
Speaker 1: a celebration is a party. All Right, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a tiffany hat this party. It's done. Okay, now that
Speaker 1: part we could do that. We could do that. So Tiff,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about you. Love life, love life.
Speaker 1: I love me a lot. There you go, this is
Speaker 1: the best love life we could have. To be satisfied
Speaker 1: over here when it's with me. Um, I'm very busy.
Speaker 1: Are you dating? I would like to date? Um? I
Speaker 1: really don't have a lot of time for it. But
Speaker 1: when somebody asked me out on a date that I'm
Speaker 1: interested in, like hanging out with I will clear this sketch.
Speaker 1: I will make some time. So have you had any
Speaker 1: special requests? So you know what's in a d music video? Right?
Speaker 1: And so I was texting with Drake and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the videos, and man, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about the video too. He was like, we should hang
Speaker 1: out sometime. I'm like, yeah, I'll never hang out. I'm
Speaker 1: cool to hang out. You let me know. And he
Speaker 1: was like, let me take you to dinner. I was
Speaker 1: like that sounds good and he's like, okay, cool, cool,
Speaker 1: we'll wait, We'll make it work, right, So I blocked
Speaker 1: blocks all this time off, like, shoot, I gonna get
Speaker 1: my mustache rats, you know what I'm saying, get my
Speaker 1: arm pits. Ways, got me a nice little dress. Then like,
Speaker 1: so what tim are we hitting out? Are you sitting
Speaker 1: in a car? Like where are we going? And he's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, my bad family emergency. I'm in Canada right now.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I got okay, look a name
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a day. And I was trying to
Speaker 1: see what that deep do. But alright, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Wait a minute, speaking of that, No, speaking
Speaker 1: of that, Okay, I remember when we were on Girl's Ships, Say,
Speaker 1: and you were telling me about your special books. Oh
Speaker 1: my big big, I was doing research. So basically because
Speaker 1: I'm a scientist a very special nature, I'm a peneotologist.
Speaker 1: I'm a peneotologist. When I was younger, any time I
Speaker 1: would go on a date, I would ask a guy
Speaker 1: if I could see his penis, and then I would
Speaker 1: put out my disposable camera and I'll ask him, can
Speaker 1: I take a picture of your penis? I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't want your face or anything. I just want to
Speaker 1: remember your openis and they'd be holding it in the hand.
Speaker 1: And then from the hands you can see like dirty nails,
Speaker 1: dirty Dick, and you can see like if the tip
Speaker 1: of the penis usually match their fingernails. It was a
Speaker 1: nice little coffee table conversation situation. No, I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that was some of the most fascinating conversations
Speaker 1: that you would not had. And what you said was
Speaker 1: the feat. No, it's not about the feet, and ain't
Speaker 1: about the feet. It's never about the feet. Check them hands,
Speaker 1: check them hands. His hands always dry and ashy. Dick
Speaker 1: probably asked, oh my god, okay, John, because we have
Speaker 1: the fish bowl, Well, thank you, welcome. This is our
Speaker 1: little special bowl where we have questions. Yeah, these are
Speaker 1: from our red table talk Facebook family right here. Okay,
Speaker 1: so one, al right, is there going to be a
Speaker 1: girl's trip to Oh my gosh, I hope so I do.
Speaker 1: Did they call you well talking about it? Well, you
Speaker 1: know they did in the beginning. I haven't heard anything lately.
Speaker 1: I haven't either. Yeah, I like two months ago, I
Speaker 1: got a cast in. Um, yeah, there is concerned about
Speaker 1: how much it's gonna cost that that and that that
Speaker 1: that has been my answer to everyone. You know, there's
Speaker 1: four of us and we all going in together, and
Speaker 1: we're sticking again, sticking together. I'm not gonna ask you
Speaker 1: this one why because it's where did you get the
Speaker 1: name black unicorn? And okay, yeah, that's for me having
Speaker 1: a word on my forehead. What When I was in
Speaker 1: elementary school, I had to work on my forehead. Now,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a mall right, but it would
Speaker 1: grow out like it would like be like a flower
Speaker 1: and then like kind of spiral around itself. Kids used
Speaker 1: to be like, you are dirty ass unicorn. You're a
Speaker 1: dirty ass unicorn and so, and it would make fun
Speaker 1: of me, like Tiffany got flies all on their face
Speaker 1: because I had a mall right here, I had. I
Speaker 1: have a mole on my nose. I had all this
Speaker 1: molle right here under my eye was much smaller than
Speaker 1: and then I had this thing grow on out my forehead.
Speaker 1: And I remember this one boy, his name was James.
Speaker 1: He used to make me so mad. And I was
Speaker 1: sitting in class one day and I just took some
Speaker 1: scissors and I just cut it and I just let
Speaker 1: it bleed there my face like like a weirdo. But
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh my god, Tiffany's bleeding. It was
Speaker 1: they all cared about me. Everybody took care of me.
Speaker 1: And then he was like, I'm sorry, why did you
Speaker 1: cut your horn off? Like you shouldn't cut your horn
Speaker 1: you might bleed to death. And I was like, if
Speaker 1: I die, it's on your fault. It was so nice
Speaker 1: to me after day dag. Oh my gosh, Oh Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you were harassed coming up through the comedy clubs. What's
Speaker 1: the worst story from those days? And do you have
Speaker 1: advice for female comics. Oh? Yeah, definitely a lot of
Speaker 1: sexual harassment comedy because comedians are perfect always handled it
Speaker 1: well though, Like I always like turned it around on them.
Speaker 1: You know what a man can't handle is an aggressive
Speaker 1: woman that that scares the out of them. And I
Speaker 1: figured that out early. At first. They would be like
Speaker 1: pushing up on me, like if you want five minutes
Speaker 1: a stage time, you're gonna have to give me five minutes,
Speaker 1: Like what you're gonna do for? And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not giving up my body for no damn stag. It's
Speaker 1: not like you're gonna make money off of me and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give up. They're being aggressive. They're basically testing that,
Speaker 1: testing their their boundaries with you. So I would suggest
Speaker 1: to women like when guys, when guys do that, I
Speaker 1: would like return the favor. I would get aggressive right back.
Speaker 1: If they're like, damn, baby, you're fine, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: you fine, look at you. Wait, there's something wrong with
Speaker 1: this lady. She must got something. That's how I get down.
Speaker 1: They try to snatch your light. Man. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: let them have your life. No, that's real talk loved
Speaker 1: you guys and girls Trip describe your co stars with
Speaker 1: one sentence. Regina um, pretty smart, cool. Huh that's actually
Speaker 1: three words, but I guess that could be as sensive.
Speaker 1: She is pretty smart, Yeah, queen, she's just she's just
Speaker 1: a super gentle heart, just a super gentle heart. And
Speaker 1: then me, Yeah, you're such a tender soul. You're a
Speaker 1: tender soul too. You really are? You just said you're
Speaker 1: a tender soul. I think you can be tough, You've
Speaker 1: had to be tough, but really you're you're a tender
Speaker 1: only just deb I'm gonna describe you. Jada is a queen,
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and my big sister. I want you to meet
Speaker 1: my mother, Okay, dam Hey, hi, looking good. Yes, how
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, we'll have a seat. Okay, alright, I
Speaker 1: was stand for a second. Was there anything you wanted
Speaker 1: to ask to that is? Actually, you know, like this
Speaker 1: whole thing is new for me, okay, and I already
Speaker 1: get a bit of attention just from being Jada's mom.
Speaker 1: You know, people assume that you want all the fame
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna go for it all. Well, let
Speaker 1: me give you the back story on that, because I
Speaker 1: was telling gam me, you want your art, but you
Speaker 1: might not want all the attention and all the stuff
Speaker 1: that comes it comes with it. So how are you
Speaker 1: dealing with that? I'm gonna be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: like it. I like I like it when I walk
Speaker 1: into a room and stuff and people light up with joy.
Speaker 1: To me, I feel like I'm doing my purpose here
Speaker 1: on this planet. I feel like that's my job. Now,
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. How bad was Jada?
Speaker 1: Did you have to give her a lot of spine
Speaker 1: ins or did you like give her time out? We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't like my mother didn't allow it. Tiffany. Yeah,
Speaker 1: back in the day we did old school parents and
Speaker 1: when you just like, yeah, That's all she needed to
Speaker 1: do was give me a look. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what she still could do it. I'd be like she
Speaker 1: did to me here at the red table. Well, she
Speaker 1: was like that's enough of that. We're not gonna talk
Speaker 1: about it. And I was like, like, Mommy has spoken,
Speaker 1: because you know, it just stays with you forever. It's
Speaker 1: just ingrained in you. It really depends on what the
Speaker 1: circumstances are, depends on what's going on, what kind of
Speaker 1: look you actually gonna get. It was four of us
Speaker 1: sank Ye're not really black. We were very well man,
Speaker 1: but you know you two or three times and it's
Speaker 1: just that you give me that look before and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be quiet now. It's just energy. I'm want
Speaker 1: to learn how to do that look like you have
Speaker 1: that look, Tiff. Yeah, I'm telling there we go. We
Speaker 1: are done, Tiff, tiffanything you for being here, Mom. This
Speaker 1: was so nice. It was just good to be able
Speaker 1: to sit with you and talk to you because your
Speaker 1: time is precious, but it's worth sharing with you in
Speaker 1: your MoMA. This is super fun. Yeah, this was really fun.
Speaker 1: This is a great conversation. Yeah, this is good. On
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Speaker 1: I'm not good enough. I went to a place where
Speaker 1: I didn't love myself. That's when I wanted to commit suicide. Wow,
Speaker 1: tiffty Hattrish is leaving us. Everybody, thank you. In minute,
Speaker 1: I want to just get tipped some water. Where do
Speaker 1: you know? I'm all alright, you guys, we just got
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