1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: joining us. We're so excited to be back today. How 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: are you doing, Susan. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to be back and chat with everybody, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: and boy, do we have somebody special today. But make 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: sure you guys are still checking out our latest episode. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: We've been having a ton of fun answer and the questions, 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: chatting with our Bachelor Nation fans and giving out the 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: dish and our advice. 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: We're never short of that, okay, But today the Goldens 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: have arrived in Paradise. We got to talk about it. Wow, 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: what did you think? 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: So exciting coming in? So good to see everybody. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you riding in on that boat. Yes, it 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: was great, but oh my god, we got to talk 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: about what happened. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody looked fabulous coming in there. Can I 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: just say everybody looked their best and the surprised look 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: on all the youngers. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: I think they were surprised. 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: It was a great moment. It was a great moment. 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: Can we go right to the bat, Kathy? Seriously? What 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: the hell? 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Okay, let me just say, Susan, you know cockroad, just mosquitoes, flies, snakes. 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm good with that. You put a bat anywhere near 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: me in the little room, I know, I mean, and 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: there it was. It just oh, I was, I was. 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I was so scared. Thank you, Parisa. 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: You were fucking like it was coming. There it did, 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: it was coming. 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: After a min and god bless Jackie stayed in there 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: and he's walking around in circles. I'm like, jack really, 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: you think you're gonna catch it? Open the door and 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: then somebody fuck it was Paris. 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: She was, yeah, okay, but we got to talk about 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the drama. Susie. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god, like I was crying. I mean, 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: he loves her. 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: He loves her, It's so clear to I mean, I 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: don't know. They didn't tell me, but it appears from 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: watching that he loves her. And the shock on her face. 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: I just and she didn't want it. I mean, no, 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure it was a 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: great idea to put those two together so close after 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: their breakup, but you know, I don't know. 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't there yet. 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: So I'm watching it with the rest of you guys, right, 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Goldens hadn't arrived when all that mess 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: was going on. But I've got to talk about Jeremy 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and Bailey. I mean, listen, when, first of all, did 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: you catch the lie? Like Jeremy, I'm sorry, buddy, I'm 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: throwing the bus. 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: Her eyes, boy, she's looking right through him, like yeah, right, But. 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: He says she goes the night before, or according to 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: her on the show, she says she committed to him. 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I love you, We're together. This is after he's had 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: his date with Susie. The next day, twenty four hours later, Sure, 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I loved out with you, Andrew. I don't blame Jeremy 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: for being pissed off. I don't. And what does a 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: grown man do when he's pissed off? 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: Calls the next one? Is that not typical? 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Oh? It typical? But I mean he said I gave 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: the rose to I wish I'd given it to Susie. No, 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: he was just mad, and in my opinion, rightfully. So 65 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Bailey's committed to him. And within twenty four hours, Sure, Andrew, 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to go on a date. And as they 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: say in upstate New York, not for nothing. She looked 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: like she had a great time with him, almost more 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: fun than she was having with Jeremy. With Andrew, she 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: was having a great time with him. 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: What about Jonathan, Oh, I don't know. 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: And Jill my heart Wait, who's your heart for Jill 73 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: or Jonathan? 74 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan had given Alex the rose, yeah, the second 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: one right, yeah, but when she was sharing with him, 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: like let's be friends. 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, but Jill what. I felt sorry for Jill. 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: He said to Jill something like you're giving me pause. 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I would think, hey, maybe he does feel something for me, 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: and then he's like, yeah, your friend zone, your friend zone. 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I felt sorry for Jill. That poor girl could not 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: catch a good day. 83 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: And Ali Joe just got there and she's so darn pretty. No, 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: we had her on the podcast. 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: I just love her, love her off. She goes like, 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: come for a minute, and there you're gone. 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: It's Susie gone, Lexi gone. What about Lexi with Justin 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean I felt sorry for her too. 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: She knew, like you could just see it. She was 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: so careful to not want to get hurt and bam 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: she gets it as well. 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we know her, right, we love her. I mean, 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: she's doing great. We had her on the podcast. We've 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: also talked to her. When I saw her in the 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: way she was looking and talking about people. It almost 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: felt like, where's really you? Just open up and be authentic, 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: be you that she was faking anything, nothing like that. 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: She just like, yeah, she wasn't comfortable. 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's more reserved. Okay, I just have 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: to ask a general I know we don't have a 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: lot of time to go over this, but I have 102 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: to say, as a Golden, as a Golden who was 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: on the show, and as a golden who is your friend, 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: and just as an English major, what the hell is 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: with the word vibing? I mean, if I had a 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: nickel for every time they said vibing last night, the 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: vibe I'm vibing, Well, we're vibing, vibing, vibing, Like, what 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: the hell? It's a noun, it's an adjective, it's a verb. 109 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Susan, what does it mean? What is it? 110 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: Vibe? You're like connecting, Yes, you're connecting, but that's like 111 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: hooking up. 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean the vibe the vibe here is 113 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: really hot. We're vibing. I mean I sat there going. 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: The vibe here is really hot and steamy, like the 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: golden snow. I know what it means. I'm just saying, yeah, Okay, 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: I know what the word means. 117 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's it's like using the word like vibe 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: has taken over the word on. 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: That's a new word. 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: Now we cannot end this today before we get into 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: our episode without the secret? 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: Do you want to share? Okay, Susan, do you think 123 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: you were going to stand up? I really didn't. I'm waiting. 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm waiting, I'm waiting. 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just going to tell you this was Kathy's 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: biggest coup she's ever made in life. 127 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: When we started that whole no how innocent and pure, 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: got married out of high school. 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: We know she needs some experience. 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: That's when we heard that. 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: When America heard this, susand what you. 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: See the faces on the young people, Oh my god, 133 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Kathy and Jesse's face. Now, do you want the truth? 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: The truth is I want? When Jesse said it was 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: going to be a great prize, I thought, I want 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: to win this prize. So what did I do? I thought, Okay, 137 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I've got to make up a secret that the young 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: ones will vote for and what a young ones want 139 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: to talk about and think about sex. So Kathy was 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: very careful in her word choice. I didn't say husband 141 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: because then they would know it was a golden I 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: didn't say child because you know there's no sex involved 143 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: in that. So I said I slept with someone when 144 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: my partner was in the other room. The partner was 145 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: my husband, Darryl. The other person was my two years 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: at the time two year old son, Douglas, who was 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: throwing his guts up and my husband, I said, go 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: go sleep in another room. I got this, I'll take 149 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: care of it. So I was sleeping with a child 150 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: who was projectile vomiting and my husband was sleeping the 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: other room. 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: We're going to have to make a public statement, Kathy, 153 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: because the world thinks just when I played never have 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: you ever? And I kissed the girl when I was eighteen, 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: here it was have you had sex with a woman? 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: Not paying attention? I ate my ice cream? It was 157 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: like I needed a public announcement. 158 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Were you shocked? Were you shocked when you heard it? 159 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Because you know me, oh? 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely? So I was like, are you fucking kidding me? 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: But I'm I. 162 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Can't wait to the next one. And watching April hook 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: up with Jack was so fun. 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I just tell you before we 165 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: get into the episode, I have to tell you I 166 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: missed that. I don't know where I was, Oh, you know, 167 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: probably creating my story. I don't know where I was. 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: But when I ever saw that last night hooking up 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: with Jack, do you not think my fingers dialed her 170 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: rapidly on the phone. Oh yes they did. 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 172 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: This is great. 173 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: Can't wait to the next one. 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: And we better get back to the episode before we 175 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: devote this. 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: Whole podcast on us. 177 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Please welcome the formal Clayton eckered. Hi, Clayton, 178 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to Golden Hour. And before we get started, can 179 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: I please have your curly hair and your gorgeous set 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: of dimples? 181 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: Please, Hike, Clayton, how are you? 182 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: I am doing great, artie, and you know what, I'm 183 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 5: looking forward to this. I heard that you guys were 184 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: ready well conversation that I need to to prep for it. 185 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: So, I mean you are easy on the eyes, Clayton, 186 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 1: you are easy. 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: On tell I just want to dance with you, babe, 188 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: That's all I watched the time. 189 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to make it first. 190 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: I heard that you guys are both the lives of 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: the parties. 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: Yes, and while Susan stands in with you, Clayton, I'm 193 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: going to be doing the deep knee bends with you 194 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: to see how my knees are feeling. 195 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, you might beat me. Honestly, my knees are 196 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: pretty shot. 197 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: From I know. I watched the whole thing about you 198 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: injecting your knees. Are you doing better? 199 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: You know? 200 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: I feel like it maybe isn't working as well as 201 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 5: I thought. So Unfortunately, we're about thirty degree k ne 202 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 5: ben be on that point, it's it's the danger zone. 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Do we want to know? Do we want to ask? 204 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: What's new? Like what happens if that that's Are we 205 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: looking at knee replacement because Susan and I have really 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: cute nursing caps and we're available. 207 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: Okay, you guys a little bit of a discount. 208 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'll have you up and walking. 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: Trust me, my knees won't be fixed. About everything else, 210 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 4: that's right. 211 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: You'll be up to show. 212 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: Break my heart. I bet to be a heartbreaker. You wouldn't. 213 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: You wouldn't say my heart. 214 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: She's taking she's in love. 215 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: But just tell me one thing about you right now? 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: What's new with you? What's besides the knee besides. 217 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 5: Honestly, I mean, I'm just I'm I'm just in a 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: really great place right now. 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: You know, I think I love that. 220 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: Mentally, I've I've really come into really just finding what 221 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 5: works for me and and I've been happy. And my 222 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: parents are just bought a house out here in Found 223 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: Fountain Hills, Arizona. 224 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: Nice. I have my whole family out in Arizona now, 225 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: so that's exciting. 226 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Where are you from originally, though you're not from Arizona? 227 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: Are you Missouri so much? 228 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I thought? 229 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, my two brothers came out here a couple 230 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: of years before me. 231 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: And then my parents. 232 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 5: You know, my mom's she she just well she she 233 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 5: was retired as of like a year ago. My dad 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 5: just retired, so they wanted to be closer to. 235 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Us, which is yeah. So all right, So before we 236 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: get into the fun stuff, we the elephant in the room, 237 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: if you don't mind us asking. We heard that your 238 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: false paternity case has closed and we which were thrilled 239 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: for you. But how did it feel or how is 240 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: it felt going through something so personal and having to 241 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: go through it so publicly. Again, only if you're comfortable. 242 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and absolutely I appreciate you asking. 243 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: I you know, I think at this point, I've gotten 244 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 5: so used to just not having privacy. 245 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: But it's not like in a bad way. 246 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: I just I think for me, I'm like, look, if 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: I'm just me and I'm as authentic as I can be, 248 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 5: you know, maybe sometimes I'm too honest for my own good, 249 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: but I feel like as long as I can just 250 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 5: be real, then ultimately it all work out. So I 251 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: didn't plan, obviously for people to know more about my 252 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: uh you know, the intimate aspects of my life. 253 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: But that's just the way that it is. 254 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: Do you get affected at all by the comments that 255 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: people put on social media? 256 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: I did it first when I first came off like 257 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: the Bachelor. Yeah, of course I was a big time 258 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: people pleaser. But I've really worked on that aspect of 259 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 5: me and I just really don't care about the majority 260 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: of people's opinions now, so good for you. 261 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: I have self love and self confidence. 262 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 5: So no, so now when I see them, I I mean, 263 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: maybe again, well do they maybe? 264 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: Will? They will? They annoy me slightly, but like why 265 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: lose sleep over them? 266 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 5: No? 267 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: Do I think about them more than a couple of seconds. 268 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 5: No? 269 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: So, but you did it one time? Is that what 270 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: you're telling me. 271 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 4: All ye, I was eaten alive by the comments, you 272 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: know at first. 273 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so tell me how have you moved forward 274 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: from being the bad guy? Like how do you do it? 275 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Because I will tell you some people from Golden have 276 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: not have really struggled being seen as bad people, and 277 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: you know it affects us, all right. 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to. 279 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 5: I mean, at least what worked for me is to 280 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: be introspective, so to go with them and figure out 281 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: exactly who I was, because for a while, again I 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: was just trying to pease everybody that I was around, 283 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 5: being a people pleaser. 284 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: I like that version of me. 285 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: So what I did was I started to go internal 286 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: and say, Okay, who am I and who do I 287 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 5: want to be? You know, and I'm not really being 288 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: the person that I actually want to be. The real 289 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: version of me has been suppressed. So in the last 290 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: couple of years, I've been able to like really tap 291 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: into like my creativity and just the parts of me 292 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: that I was always fearful of judgment from others. Once 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: you figure out who you are and and you stand 294 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: by it and you're confident, I mean, it doesn't really 295 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 5: matter what everyone else thinks at that point, so I 296 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 5: found like, yeah, once I found love in myself, I 297 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 5: was like, look, I don't care then what you think 298 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: about me, because this version of me I love, and 299 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 5: then the right people love that. 300 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: Not only handsome. 301 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: Is that the dance? 302 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: He said, the guy's hands and he can dance and 303 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: he's prophetic. It's amazing. 304 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: Oh thank you. Yeah, no, I just the dancing. Yes, 305 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: was a big part of like my rebirth. That was 306 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: actually the word that I chose for twenty twenty four. 307 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: Every year I like to choose a word to focus on, 308 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: but that was the word that I chose for last year. 309 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, look, I want to be reborn into the 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: real version of me, the version of me that I 311 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 5: really enjoy being, not you know, the facade that I'm 312 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 5: trying to you know, hold for everyone to go, oh, 313 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: that's the that's the bachelor, right. 314 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: I pushed a lot of that pressure on me. 315 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: I was like, the bachelor, you know, the most sought 316 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: after man in America, the you know, he's the sweetheart, 317 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: he's he can do no wrong. That's what I placed 318 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: on my shoulders. And that's just I mean, you can't have. 319 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: To be real. You have to be real true to 320 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: yourself right. 321 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: Now, I am and people, yeah, I know too much 322 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: about me, but I'm like, well that is what it is. 323 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, you have a real smile 324 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: on your face now, and that's that's genuine. 325 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: So you're bringing out too because you got I can 326 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: just tell balls of energy like we and when you 327 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: guys are to gather, I can't. 328 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Image how, oh my god, we start a party. 329 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 330 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: So you guys, I mean obviously I would assume, I mean, 331 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: you're doing the podcast, but you guys are now going 332 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: on a cruise, like you guys have formed a pretty 333 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: solidified relationship, which is awesome. 334 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: How about you whoever you're still friends with? 335 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: There you go. 336 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would say my closest friends Brandon Jones. 337 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 5: So you know from the when I was on The Bachelorette, 338 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: you know Michelle's season. Yeah, he but I liked a 339 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 5: lot of those guys from that season, you know, like 340 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: there's there's Rodney, Nate, you know, I've I've hung out 341 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: with a few of them. Of course, some of them 342 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 5: have now serious girlfriends and they're in that stage of 343 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 5: their lives. So you don't hear from this module and also, 344 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: I mean I I not just to put that on them. 345 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: I also am one of those individuals that you may 346 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: not hear from me for a few months and then 347 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: I come out of the woodworks. That's just the way 348 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: that I operate. You know, my friends, Clinton's just doing 349 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: a thing for a few months, He'll be back. 350 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: So one of the things that when I was reading 351 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: up on you, Clayton, because you know, I like to 352 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: know who I'm dancing with, dancing with, get it. So 353 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you're you do a lot of and now hearing you 354 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: talk doesn't surprise me. You do a lot of talk 355 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: about mental health for men, and you give talk. Can 356 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about that? 357 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think that at least the way you know, 358 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 5: when I was raised, the environment that I was raised within, 359 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: and I think not even just within the state of Missouri, 360 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 5: but I think nationally at the time. You know, if 361 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: you were watching movies pop culture had you know men, 362 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 5: they were alpha males or this is what they portrayed 363 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: as an alpha male, you know, or they were a 364 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: football player, elite athlete, a soldier, a warrior with that 365 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: you know, rambo type, you know, like the type of 366 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: all them that just you know, they just like didn't 367 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: wouldn't shed a tear, and if he did, it was 368 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: in the mainlyest possible way, but just took care of 369 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: business and and it was as tough as they come, right. 370 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: That was the That was how men were shown growing up. 371 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: And I played football, which was a very violent sport, 372 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: so again there was no time for emotion. If you 373 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: have issues with you know, people, go beat them up 374 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 5: or or go hit them hard on the football field. 375 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: It was always physical. 376 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: So there was there was a part of me I 377 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: never tapped into, which was the emotional side, and a 378 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: lot of men that I am aware of that around 379 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: my age didn't tap into it either. Back in the day, 380 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 5: you know. And I say that now, I'm like, back 381 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 5: in the day, I'm. 382 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Like, i mean, how old do you wait? How old 383 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: are you? How two? Back in the day when color 384 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: TV was you know, come on. 385 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: What can I say that? 386 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: But it's so true because our parents taught, especially the boys, 387 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: to suppress the emotion and you know, as well as 388 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: either to be healthy, you have to express the emotion 389 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: if you will, at least to yourself. 390 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was that was, you know, big for 391 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 5: me to understand. It also was very freeing. But the 392 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 5: interesting part was actually got harder before it got easier, 393 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: because when you have no baseline for emotional intelligence and 394 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: you start building upon it, and I mean I had something. 395 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 5: It wasn't like a complete idiot, but I certainly haven't 396 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 5: proved a lot. But the hard part was also you 397 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: start realizing all these different emotions and what they feel like, 398 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 5: and so then also actually becomes harder than easier because now, yes, 399 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 5: how I feel this emotion. Now I feel this emotion. Okay, 400 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 5: now like why I can understand why this happened, and 401 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: so like it actually brings up a lot and it 402 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: becomes very overwhelming. So it's important to obviously be talking 403 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: to people, to have a therapist, which I went to. 404 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: But then over time it starts to like settle down 405 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 5: and then you feel like you have you know, more control. 406 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: But it's it's interesting though the dynamic, like I felt 407 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: like I was pushing away people, which rightfully so I 408 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 5: was like, hey, I'm really struggling with my mental health. 409 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 5: So my dating life kind of took a nose dive 410 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: because I think, you know again like some women you know, 411 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 5: are like, look, I don't want to like have a project. 412 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: I want a guy. 413 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: That's emotionally available, you know, not but also vulnerable. 414 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: We want them vulnerable, emotionally available, you know, we want 415 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: them to be able to knock buildings over in a single. 416 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: You know. We want it all. 417 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: We want it all, Clay, and I want it all too. 418 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: So you know it's. 419 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: So, wait, are you dating? 420 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: Not now? Not really at the moment now? 421 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: By choice? 422 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: By choice? 423 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not interested or if the right one 424 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: comes along, you wouldn't turn your head. 425 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, that's I have really high expectations, and I 426 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: hope that, you know, I can uphold that for wherever 427 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 5: I meet that goes, oh, hey, like this guy is 428 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: you know, all that in a bag of chips. 429 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: That's what I got to ship together. 430 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping for. 431 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: And I think like im, But I also don't feel 432 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not all the way there yet, which 433 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 5: we never are weever. 434 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: If you the minute you so, the minute you stop 435 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: and say I'm complete, I'm finished, you're going to be 436 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: six feet underground. So you know, if you're not work 437 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: in progress, you're not growing. 438 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: No, it's correct, yeah, exactly, And I know that I'm 439 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 5: not looking for like a perfect person like myself, as 440 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 5: I'm not expecting my like like Okay, Clayton and Clayton, 441 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 5: I'm going to wait for like this perfect moment. No, 442 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: I know that I'll always be a work in progress, 443 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: but I just feel like there's a few more things 444 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 5: still that I'm trying to just really lock in and 445 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: just make sure that I'm like, okay, if it really 446 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: stay with where I'm at, I've got I've got a 447 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: lot of great. 448 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: Things, you know, churning around me. So I'm just like 449 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: waiting for. 450 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Tell us, what are these great things? I want to 451 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: What do you mean there's that's smart you You can't 452 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: say it. You can't say that not expect us to ask. 453 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: I know, I know, but I'll just say that I 454 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: have some some very fun things swirling around that that 455 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 5: people will. 456 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Be to do with dancing, something to do with dancing. 457 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: I don't want to get to too specific. 458 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 5: I'm honestly I hate to be that guy you like, 459 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 5: Oh great, Clayon's like saying I have a secret, but 460 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: I can't tell you. 461 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Wait a second, are you going on? Are you going 462 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: to dance with the stars? We want to break it 463 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: on this podcast. 464 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: If you are that one, I can tell you with 465 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 5: full certainty not I've not heard a single. 466 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Would you do with them? 467 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: Of course I would. 468 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: I love to dance too. 469 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: And you're going to pay me to dance to. 470 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: What's your favorite what's your free like if you want 471 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 5: to throw some money my way? 472 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: What's your best step clayon? What's your best move? What's 473 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: your what's your favorite dance? 474 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 5: I you know, it's either like the it's called the 475 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 5: my favorite one was called the Smeeze. It's like it's 476 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: like a jump style. I don't it's kind of hard 477 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: to explain, but it's that or the doggy. You might 478 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: you probably you guys have heard the doggie. 479 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: I'm not. 480 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: I watch you. 481 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you don't see my comments my heart. 482 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: No, I follow your stuff, but I just want you 483 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: to I'm working on the box step. I've got for 484 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: half the waltz down. You know, I'm looking at the 485 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: chot chob. I don't know the dog What are you 486 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: talking about? 487 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: No? I mean look, I think, I mean, I mean, 488 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 4: how can you not have fun? We were dancing? I mean, 489 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: even when you're practicing, you know, obviously the field it's 490 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: just so fun, like it's gets you going. 491 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: And to me, it doesn't even matter what I do. 492 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: I'm just out there. I feel the beat. I just 493 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: dance and if you. 494 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Don't like it, they'll watch. 495 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't care that season to motto, No I know. 496 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 5: And that's why I'm saying, Susan, I've heard I'm like 497 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: that you're you're pretty lively when you go out to 498 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 5: these events, you know, the dance floor. 499 00:21:53,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: That I'm one that tell me something you're excited about. 500 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 4: You know. I think I've just been excited about everything. 501 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, real life, right, I mean, and I know it's 502 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: just kind of a cliche answer, but I but it's 503 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: something that I probably wasn't able to say, you know, 504 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 5: for most of my life. So I think, like, right now, 505 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 5: I'm just in a really awesome spot and you know, 506 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: excited to see like what comes you know. 507 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: Next, let me next. 508 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's there's just a lot of you know, 509 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 5: I feel like I have all this, you know, these 510 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 5: good vibes that that I'm just carrying with me right now, 511 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: and as long as I stay positive, it seems like 512 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: everything around me falls into place. 513 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: So that is that is beautiful. But let me say, Clinton, 514 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that what you're saying is so important A 515 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: lot of life is your attitude towards it, and you 516 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: have such a positive attitude that your life can't help 517 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: but go great because you have that positive attitude. 518 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: And do you feel like being on the show and 519 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 2: going through everything that you went through has brought you 520 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: to where you are today? Like with if you weren't 521 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: ever on Bachelor a Bachelorette, do you think anything would 522 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: be different than how you feel about yourself right now? 523 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: That was saying, Yeah, I really do believe that the 524 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 5: show is a major catalyst self love, which is which 525 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 5: is crazy, you know, even crazy for me to say, 526 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: because like depended on what point in you know, my 527 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 5: life after the show that you asked me how I 528 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: felt about it. I, you know, really hated my experience 529 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 5: for probably a year and a half after the show, 530 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 5: where I was like, man, I wish I could just 531 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 5: go back and redo it over it. Yeah, But then 532 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: I found, you know, like I hit that point they 533 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 5: found the silver lining. I started to be able to 534 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: forgive myself and just like give myself grace and and 535 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: then started to build back up. 536 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: Like I realized at the end of the show. 537 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 5: Again, I didn't anticipate being a polarizing individual, but I was, 538 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 5: so I ultimately had to go, Okay, why am I polarizing? 539 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: What upset people? 540 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: And I found some places in my life areas of 541 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 5: improvement Once I worked on those things, I really I'm like, wait, 542 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: I'm actually liking what I'm becoming. 543 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: I think you're you think like this, Yeah, I mean 544 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: what you're saying, at least what I'm hearing is that 545 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: if you hadn't been the bad, you wouldn't have had 546 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: the opportunities for growth that you've had to bring you 547 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: to the point where you are today. Yeah. 548 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we have. 549 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: The curly hair and the beautiful teeth. 550 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: Smile. 551 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 5: The Bachelor gave me the the white teeth. They hit 552 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 5: a couple of teeth fighting treats. 553 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: They talked for that. 554 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 5: The curly hair, I just I always had curlier, I 555 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 5: just didn't put product in it. 556 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I started like switching things up, Dane. 557 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. We're going to start getting 558 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: DM Susan not for us. They're going to say, hey, 559 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: can you hook us up with Clayton. We're gonna we're 560 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: on it. 561 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: It sounds to me like you're really really maturing. 562 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: Okay, you've hit that spot where your confidence is back, 563 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: and it's about you tell me what you think about aging. 564 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Because you know that's inevitable. 565 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: It does happen to all of us. 566 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: My best years are ahead of me. 567 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: That's the way I love his attitude. 568 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean, how do you'll feel? 569 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: I mean again, like you guys have your live life 570 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 5: and like look at you with what you're doing right now. 571 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it just gets gets better and better, doesn't it. 572 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: It keeps getting better. It's I mean the possibility. 573 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Susan and I are are poster children, 574 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: poster adults, poster seniors whatever. For life is never over. Uh, 575 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, get on enjoy, enjoy who you are. 576 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 5: You know you guys, you know what you guys really are. 577 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: I mean you're, like you said, a poster child. For like, 578 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: it's never too late to try something, right. That's that's 579 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: let me not you guys to a tea. I mean 580 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: that is exactly what you all show people go oh 581 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 5: reality television, You guys are way past that prime point. 582 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: No, you're like, screw that. I'm gonna go do it 583 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: because like, get this an opportunity. 584 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: I'm jumping on it and now I think, I mean, 585 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 5: I guarantee you if you guys, I'm sure you've inspired people. 586 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure you get d ms from people saying like you, 587 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 5: you know, inspired me to. 588 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: To try a new hobby. Right. 589 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, not going on reality television because that you know, 590 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 5: it's bold to throw yourself out there. But I mean, 591 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: you guys have to be truly inspiring multiple people, which 592 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: is awesome. 593 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: And the best message to Kathy and I both have 594 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: coming off that show was telling women it's not over 595 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: at sixty you still have, Like we've both cliver at 596 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: seventy season, the last chapter the longest chapter, but the 597 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 2: best chapter because we've done all the work, We've raised kids, 598 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: grandkids and so on, and we're true to ourselves at 599 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: this point and anything anything as possible. I'm all about 600 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: the universe putting positive and I attract more positive sharing that. 601 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Do you think though, that Clayton from where you are, 602 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: Like when I was your age, I looked at my 603 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: parents and I thought they were old. I think aging, 604 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: not just Susan and I, but I think aging, the 605 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: definition of aging is really changed. 606 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well I think nowadays I mean again from 607 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: back when my parents were at my age. I mean 608 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: there's been all these you know, lifestyle improvements and new 609 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: wellness routines that you're able to turn back the clock, 610 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: so you know, again like from what my parents back then. 611 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I always looked at my parents as I 612 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: don't even know if I ever attributed an age to them. 613 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: They were when I was young, they were just my parents, 614 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 5: you know, and then I just felt like they stayed 615 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 5: the same age for so many years of my life 616 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 5: until I put a couple of gray hairs on their 617 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 5: head after the whole show myself. 618 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: Did they handle everything? 619 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: I mean, my mom is, you know, it tore her 620 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 5: to shreds. I mean, she's she's she's i mean just 621 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 5: very emotional in the best possible way. But she gets 622 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 5: really attached, you know, especially which is awesome to me 623 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 5: and my brothers. Like my mom loves us to death. 624 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 5: Unfortunately whenever like somebody says something poor about us, yeah, 625 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 5: her more than it hurts us. So that was hard 626 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 5: for her, you know. And but she's, you know, as 627 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: long as I'm happy, and she sees that, then she's 628 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 5: now happy again, right, So she's she's seeing me, you 629 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 5: know progress, and she's like, Okay, he's in a good spot, 630 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 5: so she's fine. 631 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: My dad, my dad was just like he'll figure what 632 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: the hell. 633 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad was like whatever man doing and he 634 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 5: at first like didn't think it was He acted like 635 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: it was wasn't all that. 636 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: Was he the guy that need to work on his EQ. 637 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: Well you know, he's he surprisingly has a higher Q 638 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 5: than what I gave him credit for. He he just 639 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 5: doesn't express it like he He internally can can vocal 640 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: or he can vocalize a very intellectual you know, or 641 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: discussion around emotions, but he doesn't. He never he never 642 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 5: speaks up unless like you bring it up to him. 643 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: So I found that I'm like, oh, he doesn't talk 644 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 5: about it, but he actually has quite a bit of 645 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 5: intelligence in that realm. 646 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: He just decides not to have to say anything about it. 647 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, I wish I was more like that. 648 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: I was just going to say, wait, you're supposed to 649 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: be asked for your opinion? Wait what? 650 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: Well? 651 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 5: I know, yeah right, I'm like, maybe that's why they 652 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 5: put us on these shows, because you're like, person won't stop. 653 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Pathy opinion Susann opinion, Now Clayton opinion. Oh no, it's 654 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: all coming your way. 655 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: You have a lot in common, as I find out, 656 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: like a lot of people that come go on reality television, 657 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: you have a lot of commonalities, right, Yeah, your risk takers. 658 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: You're just that's when you try it. 659 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're willing to give it a shot, and you 660 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 5: also likely have some type of very unique personality trade. 661 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what sells on TV. 662 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: I mean if you have a bunch of people that 663 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 5: sit in a room and they're all just proper and 664 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: they're all. 665 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: Right, we'll just wait and see. No, like they want 666 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: to ring right, like entertaining TV cells. 667 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: And that's why it's extremes, whether it's like a bunch 668 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 5: of happiness or whether it's anger. So I realized them, 669 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: like with a TV show again, things seem to be 670 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: more dramatic than what they are. They might be dramatic 671 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: at that moment, but then afterwards you're like, look, I 672 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: can't be that mad at this person. Yeah, there's points 673 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: in the past I'm mad at some of the contestants 674 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: and they blew that out of a portion. 675 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: But I'm like, no, they're just doing it because it's TV, right, 676 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: They're doing their. 677 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Job, right, their job. 678 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, But the first time on we don't know anything, 679 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 3: we're just being there. 680 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: We are, Yeah, no, but I had I had an 681 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: experience with them there. 682 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 5: I won't say her name, but there was someone that 683 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: I ended up like going out on a boat with 684 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 5: with a bunch of other people from the show. 685 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: And this was like before the women tell all for 686 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: my season. 687 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: So I'm like talking to her and everything's going great 688 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 5: and we're you know, we're being friendly. And there was 689 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: like a week later we got to the Women's tell all, 690 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: or it was a couple of weeks later, and she. 691 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 4: Goes at me like full fledged, like you met, you met, 692 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: were messing up, Like you could have been so much 693 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: better than what you were. And then afterwards, like she 694 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: comes out to me and she's like, so, how have 695 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: you been? And I was like, what the hell was that? 696 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 3: Really mean? 697 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: That's just TV. She's like, it's not a big deal, 698 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: and I'm like, what. 699 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, let me just say claik. When I said 700 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: zip it, I meant it. 701 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 702 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: It got me into so much trouble, I mean so 703 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: much was like really zip it? 704 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. I know. I know. People will take something 705 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: and make a mountain out of molehill. 706 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: But you're right. But you know what, I didn't zip 707 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: it and I have a podcast, so does it worked 708 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: for me? 709 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: I do have a personal question though, do you have 710 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: a type like a woman? 711 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: Do you think you have? 712 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: It's about sixty eight years old, dark brown hair, spring 713 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: back and sayings, and I can dance. 714 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: That's what's gonna come down too. Who can Who can 715 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: dance a little? Who's actually not even? Who can dance better? 716 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Just have a Oh wait, wait did you hear that, Susan? 717 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: You lose who brings more energy? I have the most energy. 718 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: You totally got you dance. 719 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: Practicing. All I need is the efforts. 720 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Oh Clayton, I'm telling you this is I've been looking 721 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: for him here he is right in my screen. 722 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: Right. 723 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Well A, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on 724 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to our fan questions. 725 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: I need to give some advice, so. 726 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: We give some advice. All right, go ahead, Susan, give 727 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: the go ahead. 728 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: Okay, this is from anonymous. 729 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: My husband and I have been married for twelve years 730 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: with three young children, ages eight to thirteen. 731 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: We are forty five years old. 732 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: He constantly has a podcast playing in one ear through 733 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: an AirPod. He does it at home in the car. 734 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: It really bothers me because it makes I am not 735 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: present in the moment. I've mentioned it over and over again, 736 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: and he always has an excuse. For example, he says, 737 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: no one was around, so I'm listening to it. He 738 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: says that being I'm on my phone, so he's like, 739 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: I can listen since you're on your phone. He doesn't 740 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: initiate conversation ever, it's usually me, help, this is affecting 741 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: our marriage, and I don't know what to do or 742 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: say to him that I have already I think she 743 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: meant have I haven't already. 744 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, wait before. 745 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Before you answer, Clayton, as long as he's listening to 746 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: Golden Hour, we. 747 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: Say, is it you guys that are the one that's 748 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: putting yea, I give her. 749 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: The other earpieces they check this out off. 750 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 4: What's turning it up? 751 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: That's what I like it. 752 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: Say that. 753 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: I was not anticipating that kind of question either. Okay, look, 754 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: I mean communication is key, so I feel that, you know, 755 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: she's obviously stated to him that you know, it's something 756 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: that she would like for him to do less of. 757 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: But I it's it's not really getting across, So she's 758 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 5: gonna have to be a bit more stern in my opinion, 759 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 5: like you're gonna have to really state this is bothering me, 760 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 5: it's really upsetting me. It's you know, it's it's it's 761 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: it's separating us to some degree or you know, and 762 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: I feel like we're not able to connect as deeply 763 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 5: as we should be able to. And you know, if 764 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 5: this continues, maybe I kind of lead into like an 765 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: outcome based like if this continues, this is what I 766 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: can see happening. I don't want that, so raising the stakes. 767 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 5: You know, men are at the end of the day. 768 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: It's like, here's what like directness, like this is what 769 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 5: can happen if this doesn't work out this way, and 770 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 5: then like showing and raising the stakes, making it severe 771 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 5: enough to say, like this is bothering me, right, it. 772 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 4: Sounds like real. 773 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think she's brought it up, but she 774 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 5: has like it's not serious enough for him to change 775 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: his behavior, so she needs to increase the pain is 776 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 5: not really the right word, but yeah. 777 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: But but did you notice that that she writes that 778 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: he says she's always on her phone. So I'm wondering 779 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: if there's a little bit of that too, where he's like, 780 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: why not, just you know, I've given up. I'm just 781 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna listen to a podcast because she's always on her phone, 782 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: and even if that's not true, perception is truth, right. 783 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: But also, like you just said, Clayton, communication is the key. 784 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: You get to sit it down, talk about it. This 785 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: doesn't work for me when you can't tell him he 786 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: can't listen to it at all. But when we're together 787 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: and we're driving in the car, we want to have 788 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: a conversation. The deal is, I'll put my phone on silent, 789 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: you take the thing out of your ear, and we 790 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: are a couple and we'll talk about whatever we need 791 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: to talk about. 792 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, boundaries absolutely listen to you, Clayton. 793 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: That was a joint effort set in appropriate bound But 794 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: you don't. 795 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: Want to jump out and give him an ultimatum, you. 796 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 4: Know, I make it seem that way. 797 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: I think, like though, if it's not registering at some point, 798 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 5: then you have to mistakes per se. 799 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm serious, Yeah, like. 800 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: This is serious. I need you to realize this. But also, 801 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I think you know, you guys brought up 802 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 5: a good point. She may also be doing behavior that 803 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 5: he that he meant like, so I don't like the whole. 804 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 5: Like when you bring up something that bothers you, someone goes, well, 805 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 5: this bothers me that you do this. It's like, hey, no, no, no, no, 806 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: Like I'm bringing up what bothers me? If it bothers you, 807 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 5: that tip for tats up is dangerous? 808 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: What makes up? 809 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: We're I'm I'm going to hang out all all the 810 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: dirty laundry. Wait, but I have a question. You guys 811 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: are overthinking this. If it were me and my husband, 812 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: it just takes damn I your pods and hide. 813 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: That's going to cause a ruckus. 814 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 5: To you know, listen, you know how guys get when 815 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 5: the second they misplaced their keys, they start running around 816 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 5: that where are damn headphones? 817 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 818 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: See these? 819 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 3: You gotta please me first before you get these. Yeah, 820 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: make it interesting. 821 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: Jesus said she should try it. 822 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: Exactly to say she should try it. We gave her 823 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: a few options so she can. 824 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: Take Yes, So Anonymous, I hope we have helped you. 825 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know, let us know. It's still hard. Okay, Clayton. 826 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: We we've gotten to know you a little bit better 827 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: and we want to open the floor up to you. 828 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for us. You must want 829 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: to know something. Yeah, and I'm not busy next Friday. 830 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, perfect, I'll be out. 831 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: No, I'm not that damn it. I'm in Austin, Texas. 832 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 4: Oh, that's an awesome spot. 833 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: Actually is going to Austin if it wasn't if my 834 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 5: brothers that live in Scotts still Austin was an not 835 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 5: a spot that I was. 836 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 3: I love Scotts Stale too, though. 837 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: I mean, I can't be it can't be either. I 838 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 5: do actually want to know. It's probably been asked, maybe, 839 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 5: but what do you what? What was the most surprising 840 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 5: aspect of going on reality TV for the both of you? 841 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: The most surprising. 842 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: Like the thing that's okay, it's a two part question. 843 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: What surprised you the most? And what is like? What 844 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 4: was your biggest lesson that you learned from it? Wow? 845 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Well it's easy for me. I don't know. I thought 846 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think an answer. 847 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Susan, I don't think I learned any lessons, okay? 848 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: And why? 849 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: And why? Is that? 850 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 5: Because you feel that you were already so prepped from 851 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 5: like just previous. 852 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: I was unapologetically authentically me okay, and people like that 853 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I made friends, and that was the best 854 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: thing to come out of the show. That I made good, 855 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: good friends, and I looked at people and watched and 856 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: learned how people react to different things. So it was 857 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: a learning experience. But to bring something out of it, 858 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that I could answer that one. 859 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: Can you? 860 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: Kathy? 861 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 5: For me? 862 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: Susan and I are both who we are, and I 863 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: think that's people that will like it or don't. We 864 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: can somewhat be polarizing to our audiences because they either 865 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: love us or don't. And I'm okay with that. I 866 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: think for me, I've always been a pretty confident person, 867 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: and I think being on Golden I realized that I 868 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: really am okay with myself. You know, my my husband 869 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: had passed away and so I had gone through a 870 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of trauma over that. 871 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: But but going to know that going in that you 872 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: were okay. 873 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: With yourself, Well, I've said many times Golden, I am 874 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: so grateful for being on the show because it really 875 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: helped heal me. It brought me back to who I was, 876 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize I guess that's what I'm trying 877 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: to say. I didn't realize how far I had strayed 878 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: from uh because because of what I went through. So 879 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: going on that show and feeling alive, feeling alive and 880 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm okay and I'm a good person and life is 881 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: for the living, I think it just underscored the importance 882 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: of life for me. And I don't know if that's 883 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: really what you're looking for, but I just I'm just 884 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: just I am a joyful person and I think i'd 885 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: lost some of that after my husband died. So I 886 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: will always be grateful to the Golden to the Bachelor 887 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: franchise for for giving me happiness bringing me back to life. 888 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: All Right, well, listen, this has been. 889 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: I don't want to end this up. I'm having a 890 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: good time. 891 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: It was you. You are every bit Susan. I've been 892 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: dying to have you on the podcast. You did not disappoint. 893 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: You are amazing, amazing, And you're in l A. You're 894 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: not in Arizona, right and that's your home base. Yes, 895 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: you're in Scottsdale or where we're coming out. 896 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 4: Let me just say, you're going to try to not 897 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: have fun here, so the three of us and Scott still, 898 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: that's just gonna be. They're gonna have to shut the 899 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 4: city down, send me your number. 900 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: I'll text you when we're on our way. 901 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: Let me just say, Clayton. The other thing is Susan. 902 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe this may be the first podcast that 903 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: she hasn't said, so let me say it for her. 904 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: Should you find miss right, Susan would be delighted to 905 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: officiate your wedding, for she's that capability. Yes she does. 906 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: And you didn't watch our show, Clayton, really. 907 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 4: Listen, I I Clayton. I hardly even watched my own season. 908 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 4: I had to. I had to watch enough of it. 909 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: She Susan married Gary and Teresa and I got to 910 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: do the color commentary with Jesse Palmer. 911 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: Best event of my life so much. 912 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: You have to hang out with Jesse because that's my 913 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: That's like my big I love him. 914 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: Can I tell you I love that guy? He's uh 915 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: my son just real quickly. My son turned forty uh 916 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: this year, and for two years my son has been 917 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: asking me to have Jesse sign an autograph for him. 918 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: And so my son played college lacrosse, so I had 919 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: this lacrossball and he's got you're not old enough, but 920 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: he has Craig Bigio second basement for the Houston Astros 921 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and Clyde Drexler who played for the Houston Rockets and 922 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: now he has Jesse Palmer's signature on that and crossball. 923 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: So that guy, yeah, that guy is golden in my book. 924 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: You absolutely are the best. Thank you so much for 925 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: joining us today. We had some fun with him, and 926 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen out there listening. You have to look 927 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: at this man. He's so beautiful. Okay, Susan, get over 928 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 2: inside and out. Yeah, your taking you're taking weekly occurrence. 929 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 4: Let's make us a week. 930 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Listen. If you enjoyed this episode with Clayton, 931 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: you need to check out our episodes because we have 932 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: them coming out every week. Lots of new guests coming 933 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: up you won't want to miss. 934 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: And make sure to submit those questions because just like 935 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: Clayton did, we gave some advice somebody else, we will 936 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: tell what we think you know how to do it. 937 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: Go to Bachelor Nation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or 938 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: dm us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. 939 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeart 940 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, 941 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: have a great week. 942 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah,