1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: A little bit surprised, you know, But I think as 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: you get into kind of that range in the draft, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: teams kind of diverge a little bit on what they 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: need to fill out their rosters, and you know, some 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: players kind of slip a little bit, uh, and you 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: end up, you know, getting a good bargain on the guy. 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: What kind of strength do you see in him in 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: the game? 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: In him? I think when you see him out there today, 10 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: you'll see a long player. You know, he's uh, he's 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: very tall, he's glean, he's got long arms, covers a 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of ground and physical, He's a physical tackle. That's 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: probably his best asset. 14 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil the new Roku series that's 15 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: coming out, but they have described the Jag as the 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: most active team on Day three. You could give us 17 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: some insight perhaps about you know, spoiling the TV series 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: as to how busy you were, and I know, obviously trying 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: and allude to it when we spoke with him that Saturday. 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha, it was. It was busy. So I think 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: we had we had six picks. I think three six 22 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: is three sevens uh and so, and the time frame 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: on those picks is very small. So there's not a 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: lot of trading. If there is a trade, it's happening 25 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: very fast, and you're trying to get kind of everybody, 26 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: make sure everybody's on board with these guys as they 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: come off. 28 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 29 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: And then you're also kind of trying to plan for 30 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: free agency after the draft to fill out your ninety 31 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: and as everything makes a pick, it changes you know, 32 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: who's who's going to be available. So it is hectic, 33 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's fun, you know. That's the that's kind 34 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: of the most active part of the draft weekend. Usually 35 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: draft days are pretty boring, so a little little bit 36 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: of activity is fun. 37 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 5: Are you still surprised that you guys really weren't able 38 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: to trade up? 39 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Not really surprised. I think it's, uh, you know, sometimes 40 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: it's just more difficult than others. You know, you have 41 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: to it takes two to tango right the old cliche, 42 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: but you know, and you have to get the right 43 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: deal with the right team at the right time, and 44 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: just you know, just unfortunately didn't work. But I think 45 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: we're overall, we're pretty pleased with the guys we have. 46 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: Parker Washington. 47 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: When you don't have to investing because the antal injury, 48 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: what kind of challenges that kind of figure out and 49 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: verify speed. 50 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's an interesting one. You're exactly right. Testing 51 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: numbers are becoming less and less available in the draft 52 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: at this point. So his was necessarily because of injury. 53 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: But we have we have some other ways to measure speed. 54 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: We also have information from the school, you know, their 55 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: their strength coach can provide us with with all kinds 56 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: of information about it. And then a big part of 57 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: what we do here is just the video. You know, 58 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: how fast does he play? How you know? Can he 59 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: do the things that we're gonna ask up him once 60 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: he's here? And I think he certainly can do that. 61 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: Do you have a familiar life? Not really fast enough? 62 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I guess that's he falls 63 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: in that category. 64 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: Do you get beaten down and in GM in charge 65 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: of making all those phone calls to try to move 66 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 4: had a pretty rough day? 67 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know it is that bad, but uh no, 68 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: it's uh it's just kind of part of it. I mean, 69 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: you make a lot of calls. The worst thing they 70 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: can say is no, you know, but you just kind 71 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: of have to keep keep digging, keep finding another another 72 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: team that'll listen to you, and it's it's spread amongst 73 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a number of people too, So I don't I don't 74 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: take all the bread to that. Like Anton and Anton Harrison, 75 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to really to the fall, 76 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Like when our scouts and and Mike Davis and the 77 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: college scouts are on the road, they go into Oklahoma, 78 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: they really like the athlete. He's a really quick feet, 79 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: he's a and he's a very efficient pass protector. I 80 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: think his his pressure's allowed rate is is extremely low. Uh. 81 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: And then mentally he's been great. At some point when 82 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: one of our scouts was in there about middle of 83 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: the season, he'd he'd made one mental air uh for 84 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: the season. So he's a reliable guy. It's going to 85 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: be where he needs to be, and he's gonna a 86 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: really efficient player. How important is it just on your 87 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: side to get input from the positional coaches when it 88 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: comes with things. 89 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: Like that have bills there at Oklahoma's ProDance. 90 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it's very important. You know, if you know, if 91 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: scouting and personnel or apartment coaching and scouting aren't on 92 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the same page with a player, it's going to make 93 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: it really hard for him to have success in any program. 94 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: So uh and Phil has done a great job. Phill 95 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: likes to get out his hands on guys. He's kind 96 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: of the typical line coach, and so he he uh 97 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, he made a number of spots or a 98 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: number of visits and and he really enjoyed it. And 99 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, he comes back with information 100 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: that you know that that he uh you know, his specialty, right, 101 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: so kind of the exact things that he's looking for, 102 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: and when he finds it, he lets us know and 103 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: we try and get those players. 104 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 4: WI sold you guys on Benchell Miller, guy who wasn't 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: able to do anything since December, since sorers. So what 106 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: was kind of made that the over. 107 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: The top there round? 108 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: You know? Uh, I think when you when you look 109 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: at the film when Vinrel's healthy, he's a really good 110 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: football player. 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: Uh. 112 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: He's very he's very instinctive, he's quick, he can run. 113 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: And then additionally off the field and in the locker 114 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: room there at Florida he's been a multiple year captain. 115 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: He's a he's a fantastic kid. He has the you know, 116 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: the DNA right that we're looking for in the locker room. 117 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 5: Strange said he had very limited if had all any contact. 118 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 5: Have you ever drafted a player that had that limited 119 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: of contact and how would you describe his contact throughout 120 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 5: his h. 121 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I have drafted players, uh you know 122 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: with that amount of contact. I think actually it's probably 123 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: pretty standard. I think we uh you know, we've had 124 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: some really good connections at Penn State. Uh you know 125 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: that have coached him hands on coaching him that a 126 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: lot of our information came from them, you know, outside 127 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: of the normal school visits that you do in the fall. 128 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: So I think, uh, you know, we felt really good 129 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: about the player, about the person, and about what he 130 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: could do for us. You know, I think I don't 131 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: think we really had any questions at that point. 132 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 5: How much did the scouts visit Penn State? Maybe he 133 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: didn't realize what. 134 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: They were there. Well, yeah, exactly. So Penn State obviously 135 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: one of the you know, the more prominent schools in 136 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: the country. So we'll have, h we'll have really three 137 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: scouts visit multiple times. We'll probably get up to like 138 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: six times that were there, and then you know, if 139 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: they are playing in another area, uh you know, we'll 140 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: have you know, additional people watching them as well. 141 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: When you got to undrafted free agency. 142 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 5: Would you like. 143 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: About the Quorn Jackson Dawan Jackson's that's an interesting case 144 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: of kind of how the scouting process works. So uh 145 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: he he uh, you know, a little bit undersized, right, 146 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: So he's not a guy that that stands out in 147 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: the in the fall during the season, but he tested 148 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: pretty well. 149 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 150 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: We go back and review guys after they test, and 151 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, found out that like, hey, this guy's a 152 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: really instinctive, savvy player and he's a really good tackler, 153 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: high percentage tackler. I think he's over ninety percent for 154 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: his for his career. 155 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 156 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Then we get him here as a local workout guy. 157 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: He does a nice job in front of in front 158 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: of the coaches there and really kind of he earned 159 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: his contract, you know with what he's done on the field, 160 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: and then every step of the way after that. With Abdullah, 161 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: what did you guys sort of seeing him obviously a 162 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: smaller edged type of player. 163 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: But what do you see on tape? 164 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think he's uh, I don't know, i'd 165 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: say small, I'd say short, you know, so he's he 166 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: is short, but long armed, he's got a he's kind 167 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: of a wide frame guy. And when you see him, 168 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, just watching him check in yesterday, he he 169 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: does have some some thickness doing him, some power on him. 170 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: He is a little bit different though than you know, 171 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: the tray Von's and the Josh Allens of the world, 172 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: just in terms of overall size. He's very very fast, 173 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: time speeds, excellent, get off his excellent, very instinctive. And 174 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: he's a unique guy in the sense that I believe 175 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: he's twenty five sacks for his career and twenty five 176 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: special teams tackles for his career. So you don't you're 177 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: not going to see that very often. Especially three four 178 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: outside linebackers usually aren't in a role on special teams 179 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: when he has that chance. Is there a bigger learning curve? 180 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: I guess because he is a little shorter, I mean 181 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: just in terms of getting uc the. 182 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: NFL, you know what, I think there's probably he's probably 183 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna rush a lot of the same way, but it's 184 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: really more of a learning curve for the tackles that 185 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: have to block him. Right, So those guys that come 186 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: off with speed and are a little bit lower give 187 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: those tall tackles trouble. So I think in his case, 188 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of times it'll be an advantage. I hear 189 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: a guy like your their position change. 190 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of fullbacks in the league. 191 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so that's a tough one. You know what 192 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: we do and this kind of goes back. I think 193 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a long time ago we had a player named Bruce 194 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: Miller from Central Florida that led the nation in sacks 195 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: and we converted him to full back and ended up 196 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: being a pretty solid player. As long as they have instincts, 197 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: as long as they can run, they're good with kind tact. 198 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a role for a guy 199 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 200 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 201 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a was a pretty successful addresser 202 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: there again, you know, being a smaller guy but very fast, 203 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I think the you know, we do 204 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things on offense, uh, formationally, we present 205 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people problems, and having having a fullback, uh, 206 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think allows us to do even more 207 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: of that, kind of give more two back cloaks. So 208 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: he's a guy that we want to try. And quite frankly, 209 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: there aren't many fullbacks in college football. You know that 210 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of a dinosaur. So do you see any 211 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: similarities to Bruce Moller in him on the field, they're 212 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: both they're both savvy and high effort. Yeah. 213 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you're able to say how many of the thirteen 214 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: draft picks did you actually get to. 215 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: Watch in college? 216 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Like, did you actually get to visit with uh? Visited 217 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: with him? Quite a few? Watched all of them, Uh, 218 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: not watched in person in the fall, all of them. 219 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: So uh, but yeah, we spent a lot of time. 220 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: We've kind of been locked in that room since the 221 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: day we got back from Indianapolis and have gone come 222 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: through everybody. So it's a it was a pretty thorough process. 223 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: Well, curious if there's any of them that maybe, like you, 224 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: I know you will alluded to Anton, you guys have 225 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: had contact with so early in the process, if there 226 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: was one that you just happened to watch so much 227 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: and then obviously you guys end up selecting them. 228 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think the kind of the some of 229 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: the guys that the leader into the draft, the Parish 230 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: of Ohasik, some of those guys were kind of guys 231 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: that elevated themselves either through the testing process or through 232 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: through tape later as as we got to them. But 233 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, they they proved themselves worthy. 234 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: What was your assessment in BHAs because Trent seemed to 235 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: be really high on it. 236 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you guys know Trent, Trent loves the 237 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: D line and that's kind of his uh, you know, 238 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: his his specialty. But he's again a guy that came up, 239 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: came up late and watched him, and he's a he's 240 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of the throwback. He's the blue collar interior defensive 241 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: lineman that has all of those all of those qualities 242 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: and he's a you know, he's a unique, unique case 243 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: in that he's a he was a junior college player, 244 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: so he wasn't really highly recruited out of high school. 245 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Uh in North Carolina is not taking very many junior 246 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: college players, right, and he ended up there and uh 247 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: and a heck of a career. And what what we 248 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: hear is we heard a lot of good things about 249 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: him from the school from North Carolina. But then when 250 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: you talk to the schools they play, that's always somebody 251 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: that they bring up like, hey, take you know, take 252 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a look at this guy. You gave his problems and 253 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: uh and ended up proven. 254 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: Right back to the pull back for quick, he hasn't 255 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: played a ton of pull that right, correct, So how 256 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: do you find out I assume and pull back in 257 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: your offense. 258 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: You're gonna want him to catch the well, be able 259 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: to catch the ball, and. 260 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: The ideal how do you find out whether this guy 261 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: can catch the ball? 262 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the Pro day, you know, take him off 263 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: to the side and play catch with them, or you 264 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: know kind of uh, you know, see see whatever information 265 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: you can find on a player. How important was the 266 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: All Star circuit? 267 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: Start with these dating guys, I know a couple of them, 268 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: worst of shriving guys. 269 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the All Star Game circuit is uh, that's 270 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: that's one of the tougher evaluations ever because people come 271 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: in in so many different stages. Right, So if you're 272 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, playing in the National Championship game, you're at 273 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: the peak of your season and you jump right into 274 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: a into an All Star game where some guy might 275 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: have been, you know it played in the last game 276 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: in Thanksgiving. So everybody's at kind of at different stages. 277 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Everybody has been probably training for the combine and then 278 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: back to football. So it's great. Probably the best thing 279 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: that we get out of it is the chance to 280 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: sit down and talk with him face to face and 281 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of make that establish that contact and you know, 282 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: make a connection and see if he's the type of 283 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: guy that. 284 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: We want here the crowded running back room. 285 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 5: But let does Tank bring to the table. What'd you 286 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 5: like about his career? 287 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: So love Tank, love what he brings, you know, as 288 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: a as a kind of well rounded running back. So 289 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: when you look at uh, you just throw the throw 290 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: the stats out. Top five fastest running backs in the draft, 291 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: top five heaviest running backs in the draft, top five 292 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: yards after contact in the draft. So he's a He's 293 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: a guy that plays physical, he plays aggressive, He's gonna 294 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: finish runs. He's gonna finish runs going forward. 295 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 296 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: And then despite that physicality, he's still pretty effective in 297 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: the passing game. So I think that gives us, you know, 298 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: another guy. 299 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: Uh. 300 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think in this day and age, leaning 301 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: on one running backs pretty hard. So the more you 302 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: have in that room, the better. 303 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: A final ross response, does money come in? I mean 304 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: you look at final contracts years like Thomas and Claybrooks 305 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: and Shack Quaterman, very little dead money, but if you 306 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: let go of them, you bring back about a million apiece. 307 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: How do you weigh that compared to two rookies or 308 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: un drafted rookies who may cost half does that come 309 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: in to play? 310 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: So I think, without without getting into those specific guys, basically, 311 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: every time you're looking at a player or potentially making 312 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: a move, it's how does it affect, you know, the 313 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: team and the on field product, How does it affect 314 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: the locker room? And then how does it affect the 315 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: salary cap? And so all of those three things kind 316 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: of have to align with what we're trying to do 317 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: in order to make that move. 318 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: What's what's the best case scenario, like guys got three 319 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: years of knowledge to be here again, or looking down 320 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: the road about you know, financially, maybe you can say 321 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: goodbye a couple of those players and go out and 322 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: get another. 323 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Free agency Yeah again, I think I think it's all 324 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: kind of on that individual case. You know, do we 325 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: have do we have somebody in the wings that we see, 326 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: you know, can can ascend past what we have if 327 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: we do, that's great, Or Hey, what what's available in 328 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: the draft, what's available in free agency? And just kind 329 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: of kind of trying to put all of those pieces 330 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: together and figure out what's best for us first first. 331 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: Three draft picks and maybe even the pull that pullback 332 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: will help you potentially help get a short yardage. When 333 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 4: do you guys first have that conversation with the coaching 334 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: staff or or internally in terms of this is an error. 335 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: We need to go and keep that around, gotcha? Well, 336 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: constantly throughout the year, you know, as as the season progresses, 337 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: how can we tweak the roster to get it better? 338 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: And then really a big time is immediately after the season. 339 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, let's sit down, let's see what the contract 340 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: situation is. Let's see, you know, what we were good at, 341 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: what we weren't good at, you know, how can we improve? 342 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: And the coaches kind of they you know, they evaluate 343 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: the players. We evalue evaluate the players, what are their 344 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: potential roles, you know, and what they see their needs are. 345 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: And then we try and try and go through and 346 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: fill as many as we can. 347 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: Where was that on a list of needs? Getting better 348 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: in short? 349 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think getting better in the in 350 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: the run game overall is you know, in past past 351 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: game overall. I mean that's schematically again, that's more Doug, 352 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: but hey, that's something that anytime we can get them 353 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: a weapon that diversifies their offense or defense, it's good 354 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: for us. 355 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: What was just like for you, it was I believe 356 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: he came in last July. 357 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: Or you were here. 358 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: I came maybe like roughly now, I don't I don't 359 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: remember if I was here for a regumnty camp, but 360 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: it was, uh, you know, it's a different, different building, right, 361 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: So it's different than what I've used to for the 362 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: last eighteen years. But it was a great experience in 363 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: terms of how everybody comes together, you know, it does. 364 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: This isn't just scouting, it's not just coaching. You know, 365 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Fergie and the medical team did you know, physicals or 366 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: medical work ups on you know, probably five hundred players, 367 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, they do that. Marcus Pollard and those his 368 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: group help us with interviews, help us kind of find 369 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: out about the person, right, uh, you know, travel, flying 370 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: guys in and out, analytics, helping us with you know, 371 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: with finding kind of relevan a data and how we 372 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: should use it. All of that stuff is was really 373 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: good and it kind of came together very very seamlessly, 374 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: so very very proud of how that process worked. 375 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: Different than San Francisco with dogs in movements. 376 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Maybe perhaps to other coaches or no, I think Doug 377 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Doug and the coaching staff are are great to work 378 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: work with. It couldn't couldn't be easy. Yeah, you know, no, 379 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. From from my perspective, Uh, you know, again, 380 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: working with any coaching staff I've had, it's been has 381 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: been relatively easy. You know. It's just making sure that 382 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: we that we get on the same page and and uh, 383 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, if it's a player we both like, let's 384 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: get them, you know, and if they are concerns on 385 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: either side, maybe we need to hit the brakes and 386 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: look at somebody else. So all right, thank you, are 387 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: you guys? 388 00:15:44,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: There's lunch in the TV studios.