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Speaker 1: The first seventy days there's not a whole lot that

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Speaker 1: as the podcast make their triumphant return to Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: we are so pumped up to bring you Cowboys Talk

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Speaker 1: here in training camp twenty twenty as the football season

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Speaker 1: right now is happening and there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: leading up to that point. Welcome back in everybody. This

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Speaker 1: is Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Heckma Harrison, Rob Phillips

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Speaker 1: and former Dallas Cowboy Isaiah standbacking. Guys. It's so good

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Speaker 1: to be back with you. I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: much I missed you over the last seventy two days.

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Speaker 1: But it's also just compounded itself in the past couple

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Speaker 1: hours because it's just it's so much excitement around not

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Speaker 1: only training camp happening, But guys, the Cowboys got Everson Griffin.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that news last night,

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Speaker 1: but they that up. You didn't, Well, good thing. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it over the next hour. But

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Speaker 1: Rob kind of break this move down. But the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: go out and get one of the best pass rushers

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, did I mean it's it's a reported

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Speaker 1: one year deal for about six million bucks. And Griffin's

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Speaker 1: been on the market for a while as a free

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Speaker 1: agent to aid avoided his deal with the Vikings earlier

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Speaker 1: this offseason, became a free agent, and then the pandemic hits,

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Speaker 1: and because of Cota, calls around the league that you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't have free agent visits, you can't have physicals,

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Speaker 1: And he's been out there rumored to maybe go back

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota, maybe Seattle. But this is a big stroke

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Speaker 1: by the Cowboys in terms of getting some big time

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Speaker 1: defensive line depth, a guy that can help fit right

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Speaker 1: in at right defensive end seventy four and a half

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Speaker 1: career sacks had eight sacks last year. Guys, this reminds

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Speaker 1: me a lot of getting Robert Quinn last year, a

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Speaker 1: guy in his early thirties on a contract that's not

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Speaker 1: hamstringing the salary cap and all of a sudden he

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Speaker 1: can really help you. Hey, mom, Hey, you guys are

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Speaker 1: being way too cool about this. Okay, I'm a say

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Speaker 1: you've been missing, you know in action. We're waiting to

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Speaker 1: get back to talk football. But listen, I'm a good

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Speaker 1: like everybody else is doing on all the other networks,

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Speaker 1: and they have something to say. They say, listen first,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is exactly what we needed. This is

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Speaker 1: the piece. And it's not to say that Alda Smith

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Speaker 1: isn't gonna give us any production. But guys, if you

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Speaker 1: think about where Mike Nolan is right now and at

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Speaker 1: the Star, he has got to be kicking himself with

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Speaker 1: all of the guys that he can put in this rotation.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, just pick somebody, you know, and ever

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Speaker 1: Everson Griffin. Look, and they're gonna be the pundits that say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting a little older, and I know you're older

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Speaker 1: at McCoy PO and guys like that. They're in their thirties.

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Speaker 1: But guys, this is a This is a group of

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Speaker 1: guys that have all individually lit it up in the league,

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Speaker 1: from Tank to PO, to McCoy and now to Everson Griffin. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl of All Pro, all of those things we

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Speaker 1: have on our front on our front line. Man, did

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Speaker 1: we get thick or what? Okay? Champ, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: you you come off? Hey, I know you got something.

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Speaker 1: Sam Well, I know, man, look at here. All I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say is my no. One he right now, he

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Speaker 1: because he has all the pieces that he absolutely needs

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Speaker 1: adding to this guy Griffin, who's a physical specimen six

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Speaker 1: And what Heckma said earlier about and Isaiah. Two guys

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Speaker 1: but that don't Hamstringer cap and half. Familiarity with guys

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Speaker 1: who's their new senior defensive assistant, Everson Griffin for six years.

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Speaker 1: So when you're talking about stepping into a training camp

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Speaker 1: Because you made all the moves you did in the

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Speaker 1: there's no reason not to be excited about this. But heckmon,

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Speaker 1: And the deal is is that Everson Griffin's catagorically way

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Speaker 1: And so that's what you're getting the amount of moves

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Speaker 1: nothing but pressure. The Cowboys are cooking with Chrisco or man, no,

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Speaker 1: Everson Griffin brings to the table. Is is he brings

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition. I think they got to

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Speaker 1: Just remember though, the NFL is allowing sixteen practice squad spots,

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Speaker 1: the bar pretty high. Heck, it's high. It's hi, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I have a concern, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this throughout the offseason, it is that this offseason prevented

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Speaker 1: be an issue. However, you can flip it around on

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Speaker 1: the other side and say, with no preseason games, nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a look at the Cowboys new look defense

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Speaker 1: or their offense and that could help him or at

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Speaker 1: least early in the season. I think it helped the

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Speaker 1: some changes they had. So it kind of goes both ways.

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Speaker 1: And actually, right, I mean in terms of upgrading the

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Speaker 1: because that was probably the main focus in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: They've done that. They have set themselves up on paper

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Speaker 1: to have success. There's no question about that. Rod. That

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Speaker 1: was a great point, Man, in terms of these guys,

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Speaker 1: But then we also take a consideration something that Mike

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Speaker 1: was very interesting when he when he mentioned that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of curious to see from what point

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Speaker 1: these guys are absorbing this information, these this new system,

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Speaker 1: based off that comment, they must be absorbing as information

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Speaker 1: And honestly, it's like when we're asked what the defense

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's exciting is is that we really

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Speaker 1: let's see how that goes over. I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: and talking about the excitement around the last couple of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys team. We heard from the Mount Rushmore of the

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Speaker 1: Prescott here in a little bit, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: kind of start off by really what has been the

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Speaker 1: theme of the off season, and that's challenges and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what are still on the table for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: not only on the field, but off the field, battling

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. There's a reason we're all still remote doing

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Speaker 1: these podcasts. It's because we're still battling this as a world,

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Speaker 1: as a society, as a country. And so they came

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Speaker 1: out yesterday and said we're still planning to play all

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Speaker 1: of our games in front of our fans, which is

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Speaker 1: extremely encouraging for all football fans anywhere. On some of

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Speaker 1: these days when you're seeing college football in some parts

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Speaker 1: say we plan on playing in front of fans, and

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Speaker 1: that's exciting to me absolutely. And Jerry is probably the

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Speaker 1: truly believes that the NFL is going to complete a

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Speaker 1: sixteen game season all the way to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and back to the A. T. T Stadium with fans.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna adhere to any protocols that the Texas state government,

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Speaker 1: It's exciting that that's looking like it's a possibility or

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It just comes down to on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, with the protocols that the league is

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Speaker 1: the responsibility of being safe and doing things outside of

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Speaker 1: the virus throughout the league. You know, there is no

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Speaker 1: and but it just it just goes down to players, coaches, staff, us,

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Speaker 1: you know, just taking responsibility and try and do the

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Speaker 1: right things outside of football. So there's not a situation

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Speaker 1: like we've seen in baseball where there's there's some outbreaks

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Speaker 1: when it when it when I was watching that that interview,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Rob, it's it's Jerry's consummate optimism about

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Speaker 1: all know that COVID nineteen has it's unprecedented and everything

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Speaker 1: see the NFL and especially the Cowboys, taking every precaution. Man,

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Speaker 1: you have got to get tested every time you come

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Speaker 1: into the building. Media does not have access to players,

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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys are doing everything. Jerry is not just

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Speaker 1: giving you lip service. He is backing it up by

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Speaker 1: those guys travel way more during the week to games,

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Speaker 1: whereas in football it's just a one day turnaround thing,

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Speaker 1: all right. And so look, we're just we're all all

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Speaker 1: of us, everybody that's on this panel. We need football

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Speaker 1: protect these men, you know, these men and everybody that's

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Speaker 1: in the organization because we're dealing with something that's dreadful. Yeah, heck,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that anybody that's sitting here

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Speaker 1: Jones to sit up there and say anything more than

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Speaker 1: I think I think we all expected him to say

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Speaker 1: the hand. He leads from the front, right. Um, And

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a revolutionary, right, I mean Jerry, Jerry.

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640
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Speaker 1: what we've already seen is the right way to do it.

641
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of absurd. I wish the NFL

642
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: would mandate that every organization would do it. But without

643
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: that mandated order, we have two organizations in the Saints

644
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and obviously here with the Dallas Cowboys that are taken

645
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: it upon themselves to ensure the safety not only their players,

646
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: but also their fans in the entire league. So hats

647
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: off to the Cowboys for doing things the right way.

648
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I hope that everybody else follow suit. Da go ahead,

649
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: go go away, rod Well. To Issaiah's point, Dak said yesterday,

650
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: just to be quite honest, the healthiest team is gonna

651
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: win a lot of games this year and have the

652
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: best chance. I mean, that's just the reality of the situation,

653
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: and you guys spoke to it. The Star is kind

654
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: of I mean, it wasn't built for a situation like this,

655
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: but it can handle a situation like this. The locker room,

656
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: board center, you have an outside practice field. The Omni

657
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: is big, I mean, you know, and that shows a

658
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: lot of team unity for guys to decide with the option, Hey,

659
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna bubble up during training camp for three weeks

660
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: and we may go longer than that. You know, it's

661
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: a Dak said, it's possibility. Now that's a that's a

662
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: heck of a commitment to do that throughout the season.

663
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: If that, you know, five months as opposed to three weeks,

664
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: but that's a possibility and that only can help your chances.

665
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: And you are right. The work behind the scenes that

666
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have done to get this thing ready is

667
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: it really is extraordinary and it hats off to the

668
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: operation staff. And to your point, I just want everybody

669
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: to be clear on this. Everybody keeps talking about how

670
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: much of a sacrifice it is for guys to stay

671
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: at the hotel and it's inconvenient, all right, Let's be clear.

672
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: We all know that during this period of time they

673
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: would have been at a hotel anyways, right, And as

674
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: ciphrom this, if they had to go the entire season

675
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: staying in a hotel, right and seeing their families every

676
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: so often, Guess what, you have so many opportunities to

677
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: make a run at a Super Bowl championship, right. I

678
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: was blessed to play six years and walk away with

679
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: a ring. There was guys that were way better than me.

680
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: There was guys that played a lot longer than me

681
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: that did not have that same opportunity. So when you

682
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: look at especially organization like this, that it's really really

683
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: is set up and teed up to go out there

684
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and have a real run at the Super Bowl. Forget sacrifice.

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: This is your opportunity. So if it requires me sleeping

686
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: at a hotel bed every day to go get that ring,

687
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: guess what, when I look back twenty years from now

688
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: and I still have those diamonds on my fingers, it

689
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: was well worth it. Isaiah, I kind of want to

690
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: turn that back around on you. And that's where we

691
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: see the leadership from this Cowboys team is the fact

692
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: that this was a player incentivized things, saying we want

693
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: to go do a bubble. And by the way, we

694
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: need a new name for the bubble. It's got to

695
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: do something else. I get what it is, it's a bubble,

696
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: but we've got to be more creative a Boys bubble.

697
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that's even weirder. But I think whenever

698
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: you look at the leadership that it takes for some

699
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: of the higher ups, or at least the more veteran

700
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: guys on this Dallas Cowboys team of saying we want

701
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: to be the healthiest team. We want to be in

702
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: a position where we're gonna make a run for a

703
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: super Bowl because we understand the expectation and the reality

704
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: of where we are as an organization right now. What

705
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: does that take as a player. How respected is that

706
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: by other players in that locker room? Isaiah, I mean

707
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: it's definitely you guys are gonna be looked at with

708
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: high regard, right, guys are gonna be highly renowned, highly

709
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: regarded guys. But I mean to my point, you know,

710
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: when you're when everybody is as as coach him was

711
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: saved back in the day, find focused on the same goals.

712
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: It's no longer a sacrifice, right, You're not sacrifice or right.

713
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: And this is this is our commitment. We commit to

714
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: this organization. We commit to this organ to this team,

715
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: to this city, to each other, to give this the

716
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: best opportunity to come in in the best shape, to

717
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: be mentally as precise as possible, and go out there

718
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: and execute to the best of our abilities. And if

719
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I do anything that's contradictory to that, I am no

720
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: longer upholding my commitment to everybody that that's relying on me.

721
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: So kudos to those guys for stepping up to the

722
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: play and saying this is what we want to do,

723
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: because it shows you that these guys really want to

724
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: go out there and get that ring. Yeah, I think

725
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great point, and Dak Prescott's been

726
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: one of the forefront names as a part of really

727
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: the group of players that wants to stay healthy and

728
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: take care of their job and be responsible, even despite

729
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: some of the questions surrounding his contract this past year.

730
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of transitioning into our hopefully franchise quarterback

731
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: moving for That's what both sides said. Yesterday. Dak Prescott

732
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: came out and his press conference and said, I want

733
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: to be a Dallas Cowboy till I can't throw the

734
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: football anymore. Massic charging you talk about what the front

735
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: office said, Jerry Jones says, I think he's outstanding. He's

736
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: our franchise quarterback moving forward. Stephen Jones echoed that Mike

737
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy is never straight away from that. But Rob is this.

738
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Is there any strain whatsoever in this relationship to the

739
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: point of we could be worried Cowboys fans down the

740
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: road that Dak Prescott isn't in the Cowboys uniform. Well,

741
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: Dak said yesterday there's no frustration on his part. He's

742
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: looking towards the season. I believe that. I'm sure there's

743
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: some disappointment on both sides. They couldn't get it done.

744
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been talking about this for over a

745
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: year now, and both sides want to get it done.

746
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, there's been other factors. I don't

747
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: think you could say one side or the other is

748
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: the reason why. I think to some extent, Dak wanted

749
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: to be on himself last year and it worked. I mean,

750
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: he had a great season and he just set him

751
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: up up. There is the length of the deal. I

752
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: think that's a real thing, and and I think there

753
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: is some credence to what the Jones has said yesterday

754
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: about you know, sixteen guys were franchise tag this year

755
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: and two I think two got long term deals. There

756
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: is question about the economics going into twenty twenty one

757
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: and what the CAP's gonna look like, because there's bound

758
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: to be revenue loss in the NFL that will affect

759
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: the salary cap level. All that being said, this is

760
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: a deal that it needs to get done. It's got

761
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: to get done because if the if the cap is

762
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: lower or flat next year, you can't have Dak Prescott.

763
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I don't think on a thirty seven million dollars franchise tag,

764
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's really feasible

765
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: unless you really have to. You have to do a

766
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: lot of maneuvering, creative with your with your contracts to

767
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: get that done. If it's gonna be long term, they

768
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: need to get it done long term next year for sure. Yeah. Man,

769
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I loved seeing Dak yesterday and I just

770
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: want to speak to the act of how poised Dak

771
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Prescott was. I mean, this was his first time being

772
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: in front of the media answering these questions, and his

773
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: ability to answer everything perfectly. I think it resonates to

774
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that he is, his leadership and

775
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: just while he's an endorsement magnet, because he's going to

776
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: protect the brand at all costs. Please know that the

777
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: media were waiting for quotables, headliners, all of those things,

778
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: and Dad gave them nothing. And maybe the one when

779
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: they pressed him about the difference between coach McCarthy and

780
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was the one thing that he kind of

781
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: went out on the limb and said, Hey, the differences.

782
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: We just didn't play smart football last year. But I

783
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: don't think that that was necessarily a job, so to speak.

784
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I think he was just speaking honestly about you know,

785
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: the football experience last year, but he was poised. He

786
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: made sure that you know, there was no that he

787
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: didn't speak to any contention between the front office and himself.

788
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: He even said, I trust Steve and I trust Jerry

789
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: and my and my agents to get this deal done.

790
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: So to me, that was the best part about it.

791
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: But I don't see how anyone can look at Dak

792
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Prescott and look at the way that he answers those

793
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: questions and have a bad thing to say about this kid, because, man,

794
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: to me, he handled the pressure, especially with you know,

795
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: all of the networks using his name and this contract dispute,

796
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: as you know, ratings, clickbait basically for the last five months,

797
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: and he just and he handled all of it with class,

798
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: and I loved it. Well. I think the best thing

799
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: about it is that this is the end of that conversation,

800
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: at least for now. I mean, the next thing is

801
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: we're getting the football and we're going to see exactly

802
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: what he does here in twenty twenty, and we're able

803
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: to kind of close the book at least at the

804
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: moment for Dak contract talk, because it's there's nothing else

805
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: you can do about it except for maybe get a

806
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: long term deal done next season. So with that even

807
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: being said, I think I want to go back and

808
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: talk about just real quickly. You mentioned that he brought

809
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: up that we weren't playing smart football. I think that

810
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: was not necessarily a jab of the coaching staff. I

811
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: think that was more of a just a straight flat

812
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: out statement on the players and exactly what the execution

813
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: was like as a whole last year. It just wasn't

814
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: necessarily what they expected it to be. I mean, you

815
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: go into twenty nineteen with all these expectations, much like

816
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: we are in twenty twenty. I think it's a little

817
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: bit different than maybe last year. But you have to

818
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: have a chance to execute now this season because you

819
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: weren't able to do so a year ago. Isaiah, Yeah,

820
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it was a jab either.

821
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't talk about previous coaches. That's a

822
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: that's just a no no when you're when you're leader

823
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: of the team. Obviously, I played quarterback in college a

824
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: little bit of the league, and that's just something you

825
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: just don't do. You don't go down that rabbit hole.

826
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: So you gotta see him, you know, play a little

827
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: dodgeball on that one and get around that question. But

828
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: you know you focus on the future. You know you're

829
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: focused on the future. I think it's always critical as

830
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: the leader of the team, as a leader of the organization, UM,

831
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: the most highly acclaimed organization in the world by just

832
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: everybody's clear on that, to let everybody know that there

833
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: has to be some form of accountability. Right. We weren't

834
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: We weren't good last year. We didn't play good. We

835
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: had pieces to be good, but we but because of

836
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: our our faults, because of what we didn't do right,

837
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: we did not succeed UM. So acknowledging that not only

838
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: as an individual, be acknowledging that as a leader as

839
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: a team is important so that it is said, it stated.

840
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: Everybody's clear on that. Now it's our opportunity to go

841
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: out there and show what we didn't do last year.

842
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: We have opportunity to prove that this year with a

843
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: much better team, and thank goodness because it's time to

844
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: talk football again. But it's also time to prove some

845
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: of these expectations right with a new coaching staff, a

846
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: whole new realm of players. Guys, we got Everson Griffin.

847
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if we talked about it, we mentioned that,

848
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: did we mentioned so? I think we did, But we

849
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: got that last night too. I don't know if you

850
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: can tell I mean excited about that. I'm pretty pumped

851
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: up about it. But before we head to this next break,

852
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: wanted to remind you that if you're looking for something

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921
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922
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: Just tune to us to talk about Everson Griffin stuff

923
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: because we're excited about it in general. But I wanted

924
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the front seven, and I mentioned and

925
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: teased a little bit earlier in the show that Layton

926
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: vander Esh and Jalen Smith maybe the two that benefit

927
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: the most from the Griffin signing because of how much

928
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: it frees them up, along with Tank Lawrence as well.

929
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: We talked about that earlier. You should go check that out.

930
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: But I think whenever it comes to this front seven, Rob,

931
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: You're already making the switch between Layton Vanderesh going to

932
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: the mic, linebacker Jalen Smith back to the will something

933
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: that I think we all kind of anticipated and it's

934
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily a surprise, but the excitement for that is

935
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: ramped up because of what Griffin brings to the table

936
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: from a pass pass rush perspective. Yeah, you mentioned it.

937
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean freeing up the linebackers to run and chase

938
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: and make plays, and we talked about it all off season.

939
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: Really the addle of the defensive line too and done

940
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: Terry Poe that can eat up space and occupy blockers

941
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: and allow that to happen. I think it's all kind

942
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: of goes together. You know. We talked to vander Esh

943
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: last week and by the way, he says, his neck

944
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: is great. He's gonna have a little more a little

945
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: more padding for his neck role this year. But he's

946
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent, which is great. Um, I'm curious Isaiah.

947
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: You know, he kind of downplayed the shift to the

948
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: mic because he said, you know, there's gonna be times

949
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: where I'll be outside the box, Jay will play inside

950
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: the box. It's it's not that big of a difference,

951
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: but he is. If he is the mic, he's gonna

952
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: be in charge of making the calls pre snap and

953
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: that's more of a responsibility. But I think he's got

954
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: a chance maybe to benefit both guys. Yeah, it should

955
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: have benefit of both guys, and like we can you

956
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: know obviously to Heckma's point, the hybrid thing, right, so

957
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be moving around. But to your point,

958
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: vander Esh, you know the wolf he's going to be.

959
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: He he's the captain of the defense. If you're if

960
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: you're playing Mike Ladbecker, you are the captain of the defense.

961
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: You are the quarterback on that side of the ball.

962
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be responsible for making sure that everybody's

963
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: a line proper I mean everywhere from the linebackers being

964
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be, communicating the calls of the secondary,

965
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, tapping into the interior d linement on the butt,

966
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: getting them in the right gaps. That's his job, right.

967
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Obviously we're talking about these guys on the front flour.

968
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna be interchanging all the time. They're

969
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna be able to apply pressure and like you mentioned,

970
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: these guys to be able to roam free on the

971
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: second level. Right. But something else to be considering her

972
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: and then to be thinking about is the fact that

973
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: vendors Yea, even though he's adding a little bit more

974
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: padding to that neck role as the mic linebacker, you

975
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: were going to take the most contact out of any

976
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: of those three guys, right. So though we're excited about

977
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: him being able to be free up a little bit,

978
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: if guys do get to that second level, guess who

979
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: they're meeting. They're meeting there, You're meeting that wolf. That's

980
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: a great point. Yeah, And I think whenever you look

981
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: at split safety coverages and the way that they kind

982
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: of read those RPOs, the mic linebackers, the guy, like

983
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: you said, who's the captain of the defense one, but

984
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: he's also the first read. He's the guy who's gonna

985
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: have to either plug the run gap or work back

986
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: in coverage, and I think either way, heckmuh, that's gonna

987
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: benefit Laton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith. We've said it all offseason.

988
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's better when he's running downhill and he's going

989
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: and rushing, He's not necessarily the best when it comes

990
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: to the change of the direction and reading on a dime.

991
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: That's what vander esh is good at. So this is

992
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: a kind of a no brainer for my No. One. Yeah.

993
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Kyle, look at it like this. I mean,

994
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I think from a defensive standpoint, there's people are making

995
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of this move of Layton Vanderes to Mike

996
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: and Jaylen Smith to Will, but the position is almost

997
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: the same. I mean, the reads are the same. The

998
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: only difference is is the mic is calling the plays

999
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: on defense and look for Jalen Smith. For both of

1000
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: these guys, you have to think and go back to

1001
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: last year, where the expectation was they were going to

1002
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: continue from where they were a twenty eighteen. They were

1003
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: the best, one of the best duos in the NFL,

1004
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: and this young duos and there are a ton of

1005
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: very very talented linebackers and look, last year wasn't their

1006
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: best output Layton vander Esche get hurt, gets hurt. But

1007
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: then he's saying, right now, look I feel good, guys,

1008
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: and having him at the mike, having him protected now

1009
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: by having guys in front of him. I mean, look, man,

1010
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: you got those big old butts in the middle. That

1011
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. You have those big old guys right,

1012
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: and you have these guys gobbling up those blocks and

1013
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: giving these guys the opportunity to run downhill. But also

1014
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith, you put him in an advantage of

1015
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: what his strength really is and that's actually coming after

1016
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and so that week's side blitz now is

1017
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: going to increase. With Chandon Smith also, I mean there

1018
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: were the questions about him changing direction, but it's changing

1019
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: direction with a tackle ear holding you is the biggest issue.

1020
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: And so now he doesn't have to worry about that

1021
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: because he has that girth upfront with those guys that

1022
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: are protecting him. I'm gonna look, if you ask, you know,

1023
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: guys like Ray Lewis who protected you. Helodi Nada is

1024
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: a guy that he probably see it still says a

1025
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Christmas card too. Terry Paul is going to be the

1026
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: guy for Lake vanders that he says that Christmas card too, Rob. Yeah,

1027
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, with Jalen, there was games

1028
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: that stand out to me, like Chicago where he was

1029
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: in coverage a lot, you know, and that was something

1030
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: down the middle where they were looking for him in

1031
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: that situation. And maybe it's not going to be as

1032
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: as much as highlighted where you guys are right where

1033
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: he's able to rush and get after the quarterback. It's

1034
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: all about that versatility deal. And Vanderesh, by the way,

1035
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: it can do that too. Sean Lee can do that too.

1036
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: They've got linebackers that have a knack for blitzing and

1037
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: getting the quarterback. So you know, I think Vanderesh is

1038
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: willing to take on the challenge of being in that quarterback.

1039
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: As Isaiah said, he's very diligent as Jalen is about

1040
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: doing it. And you know, I think maybe he would have.

1041
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't want to talk about his injury

1042
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: last week at all. He doesn't have a preseason to

1043
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: get a live you know, a tackling to get that

1044
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: first hit, you know, And I don't know how important.

1045
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how important that is, but guys in

1046
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: the past have with the Cowboys have had that neck surgery,

1047
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnston being one of them, and they've come back

1048
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: and being able to play. So it's obviously encouraging and

1049
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: they feel good about him doing it, but you know,

1050
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: he's there is no preseason to get that tested. And

1051
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: that's really a big thing for me, because, yeah, he

1052
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: was frustrating. He didn't want to talk about that during

1053
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: his press conference, But at the same time, it's a worry.

1054
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: It's and I we all know it's a worry for

1055
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: him specifically and for this coaching staff because having Layton

1056
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: Vanderesh in the middle of that defense as about as

1057
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: key of a cog as you potentially could have. You

1058
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: could have all the pass rush up front. The secondary,

1059
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: of course it still needs improvement from a Cowboys perspective,

1060
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: but if you have those linebackers to complement the defensive line,

1061
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the secondary doesn't bother you

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Speaker 1: as much. But but behind Layton vander Esh, if that

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Speaker 1: should happen, whether it's it's an injury, god forbid, what

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Speaker 1: is the depth like at linebacker and Joe Thomas is

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Speaker 1: back there, Luke Gifford potentially with a breakout year, hopefully

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Speaker 1: he stays healthy and he has a little bit more

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Speaker 1: playing time. But is there any worry about the linebacking

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Speaker 1: depth as a hole in that corp? No, I'm not

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Speaker 1: worried about the linebacking corps for it. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think Luke Gifford, like you said, if he's able to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, he's going to be a guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be you know, a well, you know, invited addition to

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Speaker 1: the linebacker corps. Also, Joe, I think Thomas is also

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00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: that guy as well. But look, these guys have something

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Speaker 1: to prove. And just to further the point, Laton vander

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Esh coverage wise, I think that the two he's definitely

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Speaker 1: better in coverage. But also I don't want to roll

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Speaker 1: over the fact that, man, how much the front seven

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Speaker 1: is going to make their job easier for the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about, you know, the second day high

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Speaker 1: for Ha Ha Clinton Dix, how he's going to be

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00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: able to play free now and gamble because the front

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: seven and the linebacking corps is that much better better. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, every piece of this, it's just one thing

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Speaker 1: helps another thing helps another thing. And again, you know

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Speaker 1: you asked about the depth. I think that the depth

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Speaker 1: is there, but also I just believe that the defensive

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Speaker 1: line is going to make all of this look so

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00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: much better on the back end, I totally agree. One

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Speaker 1: thing I want everybody to also take into consideration is

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Speaker 1: the fact that if we do run into some kind

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00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: of depth issues, right, some injuries that may may present themselves. Right,

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: we do have Thomas that can step in. We do

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Speaker 1: have you know, Gilver that can step in as well.

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Speaker 1: But what about the fact that we can switch up

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Speaker 1: our defense and going to a three four and drop

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Speaker 1: all the Smith onto the edge and drop a Na

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00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: onto the edge, right, and they don't have to be

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Speaker 1: true coverage linebackers in that sense. We have the versatility,

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Speaker 1: we have the personnel to really mix things up, and

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Speaker 1: there's this dude named Mike Nolan who just may know

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Speaker 1: how to mix things up on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So that's not it's not it's not a big worry

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00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: because we're not paying We're not going to be playing

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00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: just simply a straight four three base defense. It's it's

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: going to be all over the place, um, and we

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00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: will be perfectly fine. I think that's a great point, Isaiah,

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: because whenever we're looking at three four four three. There's

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: going to be a blurred line there this year. It

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: really will be, and we've mentioned that before, but now

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00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: you're starting to see it. Now you're starting to see

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: the personnel makeup that makes it a blurred line. And

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: when Mike McCarthy said, Hey, there's gonna be six adge

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Speaker 1: rushers only four interior guys on this roster, that's indicative

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: of the fact that you're probably going to see a

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: little bit more of a three four look because of

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: the option to take one of those guys off the line.

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: They've even mentioned taking Tank Lawrence and putting him into

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00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: two points to answer, having him play standing up, which

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Speaker 1: is something that he hasn't done a whole lot in

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Speaker 1: his career. But Rob, this is something we've seen coming

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00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: for a while, but now we're starting to see maybe

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Speaker 1: the formula put together to actually see the experiment happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've touched on it for sure. I mean, every guy

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Speaker 1: in that front seven, I pose probably the exception. I

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Speaker 1: think at three forty six you're a no tackle probably

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Speaker 1: Joe Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't see him dropping. But

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Speaker 1: but you know, I think Tank could do it. I

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: think he's a he's a terrific athlete. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Alan Smith's been in that role too in San Francisco

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: early in his career. And that's another guy that we

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about him today, but you know, I

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of optimism about what physically where

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: he's at, and he's in a better place in his

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: personal life. And that's another guy that you know, I

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00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: think people see the name Alvin Smith and they expect

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Speaker 1: him to come in and be nineteen and a half

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Speaker 1: sack guy, while you bring in Everson Griffin and you've

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00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: got some other depth on on your defensive line and

1140
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: there's not that that pressure for him. Just try to

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: They have a bunch of guys that can recreate Robert

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Speaker 1: Quinn's production on that side together, and I think with

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Speaker 1: Griffin in the fold, they've got more than enough guys

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00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: that can do that. In addition to what you said, Kyle,

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: guys that can play different spots. If they want to

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00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: change things up in the course of a game and

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: try to completely throw off the opposing quarterback, they got

1148
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: the versatility to try to do that. Yeah, Everson Griffin,

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Speaker 1: For me, I think Everson Griffin is that guy that

1150
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: allows for Aldon Smith just to be a dude, right,

1151
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: he it allows him to play free. Look, he hasn't

1152
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: been in the league. He hadn't taken a snap in years,

1153
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Speaker 1: and so he's gonna be a little bit stiff, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna take him some time to get back

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Speaker 1: in the rhythm of an NFL season. But again, it

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00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: takes all the pressure. Now, Now what we start really

1157
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: talking about, do we see does Randy Gregory even coming

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: to the fold of this conversation anymore because of the

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: sounding of Everson Griffin. So, I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: more to discuss all that part of it, But I

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: think all it does is shut of everything. It gives

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Speaker 1: you confidence going forward that we got the right mix

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: of guys. Yeah, this this defense is really starting to

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: remind me of of my Super Bowl year with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad word, right, but we had a bunch

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00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: of guys on that front. Seven were interchangeable, right. We

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: were able to go four down linement, then we're able

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: to switch it up and go to a three four.

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Speaker 1: But but thyas you know, Kiwanuka on the stand up end,

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Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul on the end, right, we had a

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: core we had. We had, we had a core of

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: guys that were right there in the middle of the

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00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: of the defense that we're not going to move right.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: You can't move it on the inside, but we can

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00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: apply a lot of pressure from the outside. Um, so

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: there's the weapons are there to you guys point It's

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I can't wait to see what no

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Speaker 1: one puts together. Man, I know, I sorry I threw

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: the giants out there, but hey, it was a long

1180
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: time ago, A long time ago. We're ending on that

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: one boy, We're gone. That's it. That's talking Cowboys. I mean,

1182
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: Isaiah just threw it out there. We're throwing the expectations

1183
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: out the roof. It's it's over. Let's chalk it up,

1184
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: and we're back boys. And that's the thing is is

1185
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: there's so many exciting expectations around not only the Cowboys season,

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00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: but specifically the signing of Everson Griffin. It takes the

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00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: pressure off your linebackers, it takes the pressure off tank wrns,

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off the deep tackles. Say same

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Speaker 1: thing in the secondary off of really even having a scheme.

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Speaker 1: As an in general, there's going to be excitement and

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01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: there's going to be options, and that's exactly what you

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: wanted going into this optseason, and you're gonna have options

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01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: coming up as a Cowboys fan in terms of your

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: media coverage as well. Coming up over the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days, the podcast We're Back. We're back for good.

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: We're back through the end of this season. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Tuesday, so you don't even have to wait

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Speaker 1: a full week to get more Talking Cowboys. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back Tuesday at eleven AM, and then each of us

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Speaker 1: will be spread out on different different programming throughout the

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Speaker 1: week as well, so be sure to follow each of us.

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Speaker 1: But for Isaiah, stand back for heck Ma Harrison, for

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and for Chris Beam running the show back

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Speaker 1: in studio, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long this time

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Speaker 1: for Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas

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