WEBVTT - Jurassic Park with Steven Ray Morris 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.200 On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.240 women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.159 or do they have in individualism the patriarchy? Zef in 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.960 best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello, and 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.759 welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin and 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:25.960 you have a mouthful of seven. Welcome to the show. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.479 Welcome to the show. We have a podcast about the 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.760 portrayal of women in movies. It's inspired by the Bechtel Test. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.479 Here are the things about the test. There have to 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.919 be two women in the movie. They have to have names, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.280 they have to talk to each other, and their conversation 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:48.800 can't be about a man. Don't understand, right, Why must 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:55.240 we have this sounds boring? Lame? Well? Today is an episode. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.840 I didn't know if I was going to be excited 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.160 for it, and then I watched the movie. I was like, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:59.800 you know what, I'm really excited. Oh my god. Well 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.080 let's okay, let's jump in the first we have a 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:08.000 guest speaking of men. He's been restrained. Yes, he's lowering 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.760 his head in shame for being a man, as he should. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.400 We didn't bring out the Chaine. This time. It's just bungees, right, yeah, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.360 just bungees. If no one puts up, if no one 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.960 seems too aggressive, we're like, okay, you're just you're bungee. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.760 He could escape if he really wanted, right, but we'll 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.000 fight back. He seems fine, Yeah, he'll be He'll be 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.000 great because he is great. He is the co host 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.959 of the Percast, he's the producer of My Favorite Murder, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.200 and he's the host of a new podcast about the 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.800 movie we're talking about today, a Jurassic Park. It's called 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:44.200 See Jurassic Right, Stephen Ray Morris, thank you both for 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.360 having me. Thanks super excited for me. I know you're happy. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:52.640 You're a like Jurassic Park scholar. You're a scholar that's 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.080 a lot of pressure. Pressure pressure. I mean, I just 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:57.920 I think it's one of those things where you're like, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.160 you know, when you're in college and you're like I 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.120 want to love like insert impressive movie title here, But 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.280 then I think over time, I was like, you know what, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.640 this is my favorite movie, Like just this is the 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.480 thing that brings me the most joy. So, and you've 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.799 written a collection of essays, collection of essays on Thought 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.400 Catalog just kind of like the phase one of the 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.480 podcasts that I'm doing now, which is just me wanting 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.960 to just excessively nerd out about like the things that 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.480 I just like about this movie and this franchise, you know, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.440 problems with the things that are interesting to talk about 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.080 all that kind of stuff. Because I went, like you, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.919 I went to film school. So it's just a way 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.079 to almost feel like I was using my degree time out. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.200 I just want everyone to know that I do have 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.720 two degrees in film. One of them is a master's 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.600 degree in screen running from Boston University. This is my 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.000 go on, this is my new thing. I'm gonna start 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.480 being a denier and like show us the show us 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.640 the diploma. I have a diploma at my house. I 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.480 will take a photo of it. And I'm going to 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.960 be a truth. I'm going to be a Caitlin Grad 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.919 School truther. We haven't seen the diploma. We don't know. Okay, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.400 I'll prove it. I got proof. We're gonna make We're 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.240 gonna turn this into a dystopian podcast in which I 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:10.000 am Donald Trump. Yeah, and I would like to be 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:14.640 the villain. Please, Hey, that's fine. We need villains out there. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.880 Without evil. There could be no good, so it's good 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.239 to be evil sometimes. That is a line from a 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.239 song from the South Park movie. Here's what my dad 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.400 used to say when he would be smoking outside of 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.040 our house and I'd say, hey, Dad, stop smoking, it's 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.280 bad for you. You'd say, sometimes it feels good to 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.040 be bad, and then he keeps smoking. Cool. It was 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.080 pretty cool. I mean in that way, I probably should 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.320 be a smoker, because that's a moment where it's like, well, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:44.640 I'm sold. Yeah, Well it's even question for you. So 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.680 we're talking about the ninety three o G Jurassic Park. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.040 Is this your favorite one out of all of the Okay, 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:57.080 I mean it seems it's the only good one, so um, okay, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.840 I believe. I mean, it's that thing with Jurassic Park 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.160 that the unfortunate thing is that, unlike other bigger franchises, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.040 the original is just so far and away better than 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.280 the other ones that it's like people probably don't even 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.320 know that there were other ones. Yeah, Lost World, the 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.040 second one wasn't terrible, but by no means is it 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.000 as good as Tragic Part. No, it's kind of a dragon. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.840 Even Steven Spielberg said he was like, it's not as 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.320 good and I was kind of I love that he 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.599 admits movies he's directed are not that good. He's like, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.360 templa doom, I don't care for it, stinker. I appreciate. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.440 I mean, I guess once you reach a certain point 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.240 of money, you're like, well, I may as well tell 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.160 the truth. I love that I was reading a lot 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.120 about the productor. I mean, I'm sure I'm stating I'm 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.360 going to bring no new facts to the table for 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.719 most people. But I love that he was like doing 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.560 post for this movie while filming Schindler's List, just for 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.400 some levity. At the end of the day, it's like, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.719 what we've been doing the list all day, I'm going 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.920 I'm going back to my my little whatever, probably very 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.680 nice house I'm staying in, and I'm gonna look at 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.800 some dinos to one some Dino dailies some Yeah, I 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.720 didn't even think about that. Yeah, that like that would 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.440 be the levity. At the end of the day, He's like, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.560 let's do the Schindler's List dailies first and then I'll 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.159 watch the right. Mean, we don't have a confronted but 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.000 I would have to assume you don't want to watch 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.760 the Schindler's list dailies before bed, you want to watch 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.640 the dinos? I would imagine, how are the dinosaur robots 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.640 coming along? That seems that seems like a better midnight snack. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.880 I'll do the recap of Jurassic Park, please do, Okay, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:36.520 I will. So we meet a velociraptor and it's like 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:42.680 I'm gonna eat somebody a lot of ambient dino noises 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.400 great instead of asting. So we learned that there's a 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.960 thing called Jurassic Park. It's a it's an amusement park. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.680 And but because there was this attack, the creator of 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.920 Jurassic Park, John Hammond, needs to bring on these x 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.680 berts to endorse this park. So he finds doctor Grant 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.360 and Dr Sadler, these paleo. Is this a hotties only rule? 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.680 Then it's like I need experts, but only hot experts, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.240 hot scientists only. Yeah, I mean that's true to the 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.120 book in all of Michael Crichton, where he only allowed 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.480 well at least in terms of you know, if we're 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.360 getting into the podcast itself, like Michael Crichton only allowed 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.600 hot women to be scientists in his books. Like I've 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.680 read all of his books and it's like for him, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.600 he can't see outside of that. It's like, you can 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.560 be a math genius, but you still have to be hot. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.599 Then he's unnoticed. I went through a weird Michael Crichton 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.039 phase when I was a kid where I read a lot. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.320 I didn't read Jurassic Park, but I read a lot 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.919 of Michael Crichton. Was a real Crichton head? Was your favorite? 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.960 The one with all the numbers was the one? Uh, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.720 where is it? Drama string? No, I gotta look at it. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.320 It was not a good one, but that I was 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.240 like really obsessed with a movie of his. Prissy, I'll 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.599 file figure out what my what my little Creighton thing was. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.440 So he approaches these two dinosaur experts and it's like, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.880 comm endorse my park, and they're like, well, okay, because 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.920 he promises to fund their dig. They just found a 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.040 raptor skeleton. Anyway. Meanwhile, there's a there's a lawyer also, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.520 and he's like, I don't just don't know about this. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.000 I represent these investors and and I don't know. There's 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:30.000 an accident and it's everything's I don't know, And then pray, oh, pray, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.640 oh yeah, we're just yeah, praise no there's I would 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.560 just remember being like, oh, nano cool, and then next 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.920 there's another really bad Michael Crich. I haven't read any 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.280 of them, including Drastic Park. Yeah. I think I think 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.160 he tapped out at some point. He's got a million 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:52.360 billion dinoh dollars. Yeah, he doesn't need it. He's dead. Wait, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.040 he's dead. No, I didn't know he was dead. Well, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.680 I just felt that it was like all that in 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.880 my guy. He died on election night when Obama was elected. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.760 Two do you think of that? Whatever you're about to say, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.720 I do think Lord taketh away. Well, I was just 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.119 I was talking with someone yesterday about how I forget 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.200 why it came up. Oh, I was. I was on 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.040 a date and I was really struggling for topics, and 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.200 I said that, Hey, the day I was born, Larry 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.760 Bird retired, and my mom thought that his spirit of 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.840 greatness went into me. So you not only have Larry 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.320 Bird's spirit, but you also have Patrick Swayze. I have 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.960 shared the same birthday. The angels have my back. But 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.080 the funny thing is my mom would always say, you 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.840 have Larry Bird's spirit of greatness. Larry Bird is not dead, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.720 he just retired that day so Larry birds walking around 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.280 without his spirit because I had to have it, because 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.079 I have it and that's why I'm so good at basketball. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.240 The end anyway, So I'm going to get through this 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.640 recap as quickly as possible. The Dino experts, they come, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:02.080 they rot, they come, They arrive to Jurassic Park car 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.439 along with dr Ian Malcolm, who's a Chaotitian? Is that 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.679 Jeff Goldblum? Yes? Why is it? Why is every hot 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.080 lady in l A have a picture with Jeff Goldblum touching? 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.360 Because he plays with the Rockwell, he needs to cut 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.760 it out and starting to look perverted. I needed to stop. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.079 Every man on Tinder, if you live in l A 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.640 has a photo with Jeff Goldblum, those are the rules. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.800 He needs to make a new rule of I'm not 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.360 going to touch the audience members anymore. A friend of 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.439 the cast, Josh Fadum, brought this. I us like, why 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.199 does everyone have a picture? Where do you go? Where 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.080 do you get one? And I was like, wherever? I 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.440 know where you go. There's a place in a time 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.040 and you bring your Instagram and you and you get 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:51.400 a million likes. It's a cheap code. Jeff Goldblum pervert done? Okay, yeah, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.679 campaign do you really live here if you don't have 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.280 a weird perverted picture with Jeff Goldblum hunching over and 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.920 touching you after playing jazz music? I don't know, you 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.880 know what? I like Jeff Goldblum, So I am you 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.280 would him to you? I would let him touch me. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.120 Consent is important. That is a big message we have 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.199 here on the podcast, especially when it comes to Jeff 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.480 Goldblum's jazz concert. I wouldn't consent to attend a Jeff 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.400 Goldblum jazz concert, but that's fine. Yeah, yeah, he has 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.720 to come to me, come to one of the comedy 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.720 shows I do in a basement, right he should. He 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.800 should be going to supporting more live ault comedy. Hey, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.000 Jeff Goldbluin was your problem? Why do you need the art? 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.520 Come on out to the comedy scene in l A, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.800 Menia has time to sell tacos from a taco truck? 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:44.360 Why not really does he? Yeah? Oh god, alright, Well 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.280 more on that La. Sorry, we got a story to 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:50.320 talk about. They arrive at Jurassic Park and they're like, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.920 holy fuck, they didn't even know dinosaurs were going to 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.760 be there, and the dinosaur experts were like, whoa, I 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.439 guess our jobs are obsolete. And then there's this guy 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.320 named Dennis ned Ree who feels that he was not 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.320 paid well enough by Jurassic Park creator John Hammond, and 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.960 he decides to funk them over by selling the embryos 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.240 of the dinosaurs to a competing company, I suppose. So 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.360 he has to like do all this stuff where he 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.760 shuts down different systems and in security things around the park, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.280 tons of grids. He shuts them all down so that 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.240 he can steal these embryos and then he leaves with 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:31.560 them in a shaving can product place, right, So he 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.760 basically makes it so the whole park, all the security measures, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.959 all the electric fences and everything like that are shut 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.520 down and totally off. So the dino experts and John 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.760 Hammond's grandchildren Lex and Tim show up and they're like, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.240 we want to go on the ride too, So they 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.960 go on this little Draassic Park tour, but all the 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.040 systems shut down and the dinosaurs start to come out, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:12:03.120 and they're like, there's a goat. So t Rex shows 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.000 up the artists, but only with your mouth only. Yeah, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.520 I'm gonna become a mouthfully Yeah. T Rex shows up, 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:16.120 Delapasaurus shows up, The raptors get out of their cage 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:21.079 and all help. Just like Ian Malcolm predicted, Hey do 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.960 you guys want to take a picture of me? He's like, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.680 life finds a way, and then life does find a way. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.440 He was right, that's his that's Jeff Goldblum's I see 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:37.679 dead people. M mmmmm yeah, shout da friend of the cast, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.240 Friend of the cast, Dailey Jewel, where are you? I'm 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:44.160 kidding you want to answer? So hell breaks loose, A 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.360 bunch of people die, including the lawyer guy and Muldoon, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.120 this British Safari man we'll call him, and then they 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.520 all have to like, fuck, how do we and then 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.679 they turn the systems back on. There's this great climactic 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.040 scene where the raptor you're a bound to get them, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.400 and then t Rex swoops in and saves the day 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.080 the end, and then he's like, Mr Hammond, I've decided 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:14.280 not to endorse your park. So that's beautiful, Thank you, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.400 good good recap. That was a good one. I usually 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.680 do a fucking terrible job. That was really good. I 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.880 think it's because I've had most of a small bottle 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.520 of wine. I think that we should encourage people to 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.760 drink more alcohol and then they'll do a better job 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.560 at whatever they're trying to do. Yeah, maybe not the 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:35.480 best message to know. I wasn't there, I wasn't being now. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.280 I just feel like I should have brought you and drink. Yeah. Sorry, um, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.439 sometimes it feels good to be bad. Okay, so that's 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.480 the story. But what does it mean? What doesn't mean? 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:51.600 You're here? Okay? If you can't tell. I love this 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.400 movie so much. It's probably one of my top five 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.160 favorite movies of all time. I have seen it dozens 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.480 of times. I love it, and it's it's just it's 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.160 so good. It's I would say, a perfect movie. Yeah, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.440 it's so good, Jamie. You just saw it, and I 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.160 thought I was thrilled you liked it. I did like it, 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.480 liked it a lot. And I'm not I'm not a 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.440 big blockbuster girl. I'm not a big movie person. I 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.600 did watch the movie, the documentary about Hull Cogan and 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.680 journalistic ethics twice, and that's usually what's a little more 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.040 my speed. That one's not going to pass the Backel test. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.240 That's on me. I really enjoyed this movie. It was 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.680 so much fun. I watched it two times. I did 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.240 I did a kaylin. I watched it one time and 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.840 then I said, you know what, I could I could 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.760 stomach this again, which to me is like, wow, I 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.680 Muso really liked that movie. I'm impressed. Yeah, I don't 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.760 like movies that much. I know. Yeah, welcome to our 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:51.680 movie podcast. I know, episode but fifty. There's it feels 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.360 pretty breezy in comparison to like blockbusters now that are 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.880 like two and a half hours, like Transformers and all 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.680 that stuff. It's a quick one. Yeah, and it's also 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.280 it's also in you know, still before the era before 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.840 like blockbusters had to be filtered through a blue filter. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.560 The whole thing is fucking blue. Is three hours long. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.040 And there's they're like, but it's really about philosophy, and 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.080 like this movie is is I mean, it has meant 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.680 you can unpack a lot, but they're not they're not 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.600 heaping it upon you. You can take it or leave it. Sure, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.880 fun movie, I mean directed by Steven Spielberg, very competent director, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.080 one of my favorites. Well, I hope he uses that 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:38.680 very confident the fat podcast. Yeah, you're welcome for my 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:44.440 incredible endorsement. Steven. Anyway, it's just such a terrific movie 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.520 and it's kind of nice, like I was rewatching it 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.080 just I mean, I kind of just wake up to 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.760 it every day just in my head. But like that, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.680 it is a movie where it has a lot of 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.120 set up and then once it let's go, then it's 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.120 just kind of like going, and it doesn't necessary at 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.080 least stop other than when Dr Sadler and Hammond eat 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.480 ice cream, Like that's the only slow scene, like once 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.400 the action starts. But I love that scene though, Yeah, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:15.360 you never had control, that's the illusion. I think that's 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.840 would have been funny if you dropped his ice cream. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:22.880 S Um, that's isn't Like there's so much foreshadowing and 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.400 like plant and payoff in this movie and it just 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.560 shows so much restraint. We don't meet t Rex until 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:37.800 an hour and three minutes into the movie. Miss you 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:42.200 can talk to There's a bow um because I had 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.200 been on the Jurassic Park raft ride multiple times before 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.240 seeing this movie for the first time, and then I 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.840 went back to make sure that this story had started 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.560 as this is going to be a roller coaster eventually, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:04.160 and for sure it was because Crichton rest in Paradise apparently, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.440 which is really allegedly. I think it's a I think 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.720 it's a kaufman esque prank and Krechton is still with us. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.720 But anyways, Crichton was writing the book, took a meeting 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.800 with Spielberg talking about e Er apparently, and he was like, Hey, also, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.680 I like dinosaurs, and this is what men talk about 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.280 at lunch. They're like, yeah, I like trains and dinosaurs 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:30.240 and fucking ladies. And Steven Spielberg said, well, what about dinosaurs? 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.000 And so he knew this was going to be a 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.280 movie before he finished the book, and knew it was 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.320 going to be a Spielberg movie. So he also knew 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.879 it was going to be a roller coaster. Like knowing 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.840 that and then watching the movie again, I was like, oh, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.600 this kind of informs the way a roller coaster would happen. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.360 You're not going to tote out the t rex right away? Yeah, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:53.720 that's right. You gotta you gotta metaphorically build it. Oh, 0:17:53.760 --> 0:18:01.080 this is another theme park ride movie. We're gonna get 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.760 around to the Country Bears and I cannot wait. I'm 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:12.280 sure that's a very woman. Everyone's gonna love it. All Right, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.720 let's talk about the portrayal of women in this pod 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.639 in this movie, I don't know so, as was hinted 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.760 at earlier missed t Rex, because all the dinosaurs are women. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.840 They're female. I like that. I like that all the 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:32.359 dangerous killing machines are women. But then but then also 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.400 they are being kept in captivity by mostly man man. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.239 So yeah, I don't know Steven your take. But then 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.200 they break free? Sorry there free? Well, and then that 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.360 that's actually one of my questions that I was curious 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.359 to hear your thoughts on it, because it is that 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.480 thing where it's like and that's the one thing I 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.960 kind of liked about Drastic World that Chris Pratt's character 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.680 was so like their female dinosaurs and he has this 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.360 kind of like like insistent, like O C. D insistence 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.600 that everyone referred to them as like she all that stuff. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.920 But like, I guess my thought is, allies, yeah, we're 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.119 dis or allies, We're not going to miss gender these dinosaurs. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.800 And but yeah, I guess my question is does them 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.920 all being female really impact the narrative in a way, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.800 and like how does it really affected or mean I 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.199 was mostly saying it as a joke, but well, no, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.439 I mean that's just my curiosity about it, because it 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:25.040 was really interesting when Hasbro released the Jurassic World toys, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.400 they called them all he and like there's a big 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.560 outcry in the community, and so in Jurassic World they're 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.399 all still Yeah. It's just one of those things where 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.240 I feel like it maybe just plays the most into Dr. 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.960 Sadler's line where, you know, women inherit the earth kind 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.440 of thing, like the idea that maybe these dinosaurs are 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.400 like taking back from, you know, the patriarchy and society 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.439 by destroying it all, or I think stuff like that. Well, 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.840 it does play a significant role in the story, and 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:56.520 that they deliberately genetically engineer the dinosaurs to be all 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.600 females so that they don't breed because they have to 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:04.080 control they're breeding, right, But then life finds a way. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.040 But okay, here's and this is maybe a stupid question 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.320 from someone who just saw Drastic Park for the first time. 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:16.119 If Devil's Advocate they made all the dinosaurs men and 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.840 there were no eggs to be stolen, wouldn't that have 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:25.840 really fucked up the plot of the movie? Es the 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.600 dinosaurs were just coming and then they were like, well, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.720 there goes that one a bucket, just like roaming around 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:40.919 the park. Like dinoaches come in the slop bucket, all right, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.679 that's Jeff Goldblum's job, and the dinosaurs come into the bucket. Well, 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.879 wouldn't they still need to be female to lay the 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.320 eggs or how do they do that? I think the 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.800 ones that we see like with like Beaty Wong, like 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.560 in the beginning, I think those were like artificially inseminated, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.640 but then the ones later in the movie are realized, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.240 so like that would funk up that point in in 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:09.159 the plot. Yeah, I'm just being critical of Crichton, you know, 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.480 because that's why I came here to do. But now 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.560 he's dead, and now I'm being disrespectful. I can't believe 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.439 he's been dead for almost ten years. What did I 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.320 think he was up to? No idea being more anti 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.720 global warming stuff. Yeah, he's a climate change denier. He was. 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.919 He's dead. Now he's one with the earth, which is 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.240 fine according to him. I mean he still is releasing novels, 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.280 which is the weirder part. What they still keep finding 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:41.920 manuscripts of books, like they just released a new one 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.840 this year. Like that's why I thought he wasn't dead. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.640 Because I was like, I've seen his name recently. Oh, 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.119 but his ghost is just really same books now. Shout 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.600 shout out to the movie Ghost. Shout out to the 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.119 movie Ghost. Shout out to Crichton's Ghost, which is a 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.840 movie that I will write starting the second Ist podcast records. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.200 I can't wait Creon's Ghost. More importantly than the all 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.480 the dinosaurs being female, let's talk about the actual human 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:11.200 women in the movie. Doctor Ellie Sadler a woman in 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.919 stem She's a paleobotanist. Hell yeah. And then there's Lex 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:20.480 who is a computer hacker and a computer whiz technopagan. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.080 Either way, I feel like that's what she grow up 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.920 to be. What is a techno pagan? Like it wasn't 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.439 that X Fox episode, but I almost imagine, like I 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.120 was talking to something the other day, if there was, Like, 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.879 if her character was around in Jurassic World, she'd probably 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.160 be like hacking intother systems to try and shut down 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.840 the new park. It's like desecrating the memory of her 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:44.520 grandfather or something. Okay, I like it. I love hacking scenes, 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:48.480 especially the further back you go, the crazier the hacking 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:53.240 scenes get. The word main frame is in vote quota. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.919