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Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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Speaker 1: or do they have in individualism the patriarchy? Zef in

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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin and

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Speaker 1: you have a mouthful of seven. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We have a podcast about the

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Speaker 1: portrayal of women in movies. It's inspired by the Bechtel Test.

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Speaker 1: Here are the things about the test. There have to

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Speaker 1: be two women in the movie. They have to have names,

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Speaker 1: they have to talk to each other, and their conversation

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Speaker 1: can't be about a man. Don't understand, right, Why must

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Speaker 1: we have this sounds boring? Lame? Well? Today is an episode.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was going to be excited

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Speaker 1: for it, and then I watched the movie. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm really excited. Oh my god. Well

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Speaker 1: let's okay, let's jump in the first we have a

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Speaker 1: guest speaking of men. He's been restrained. Yes, he's lowering

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Speaker 1: his head in shame for being a man, as he should.

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Speaker 1: We didn't bring out the Chaine. This time. It's just bungees, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just bungees. If no one puts up, if no one

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Speaker 1: seems too aggressive, we're like, okay, you're just you're bungee.

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Speaker 1: He could escape if he really wanted, right, but we'll

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Speaker 1: fight back. He seems fine, Yeah, he'll be He'll be

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Speaker 1: great because he is great. He is the co host

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Speaker 1: of the Percast, he's the producer of My Favorite Murder,

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Speaker 1: and he's the host of a new podcast about the

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Speaker 1: movie we're talking about today, a Jurassic Park. It's called

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Speaker 1: See Jurassic Right, Stephen Ray Morris, thank you both for

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Speaker 1: having me. Thanks super excited for me. I know you're happy.

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Speaker 1: You're a like Jurassic Park scholar. You're a scholar that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. Pressure pressure. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where you're like,

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Speaker 1: then I think over time, I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: written a collection of essays, collection of essays on Thought

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Speaker 1: Catalog just kind of like the phase one of the

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Speaker 1: podcasts that I'm doing now, which is just me wanting

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Speaker 1: to just excessively nerd out about like the things that

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Speaker 1: I just like about this movie and this franchise, you know,

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Speaker 1: problems with the things that are interesting to talk about

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Because I went, like you,

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Speaker 1: I went to film school. So it's just a way

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Speaker 1: I just want everyone to know that I do have

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Speaker 1: two degrees in film. One of them is a master's

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Speaker 1: degree in screen running from Boston University. This is my

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Speaker 1: go on, this is my new thing. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: being a denier and like show us the show us

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Speaker 1: the diploma. I have a diploma at my house. I

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Speaker 1: will take a photo of it. And I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be a truth. I'm going to be a Caitlin Grad

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Speaker 1: School truther. We haven't seen the diploma. We don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll prove it. I got proof. We're gonna make We're

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Speaker 1: gonna turn this into a dystopian podcast in which I

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Speaker 1: am Donald Trump. Yeah, and I would like to be

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Speaker 1: the villain. Please, Hey, that's fine. We need villains out there.

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Speaker 1: Without evil. There could be no good, so it's good

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Speaker 1: to be evil sometimes. That is a line from a

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Speaker 1: song from the South Park movie. Here's what my dad

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the ninety three o G Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 1: Is this your favorite one out of all of the Okay,

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Speaker 1: Even Steven Spielberg said he was like, it's not as

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Speaker 1: post for this movie while filming Schindler's List, just for

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Speaker 1: I'll do the recap of Jurassic Park, please do, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I will. So we meet a velociraptor and it's like

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Speaker 1: And but because there was this attack, the creator of

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Speaker 1: file figure out what my what my little Creighton thing was.

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Speaker 1: So he approaches these two dinosaur experts and it's like,

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Speaker 1: Goldblum's jazz concert. I wouldn't consent to attend a Jeff

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Speaker 1: scene where the two raptors are vocal with each other.

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Speaker 1: They're communicating with their stretch, and I would say that

420
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Speaker 1: us is the Bechdel test stretch. Well, well, wait, we

421
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: don't know their name. Big all stretch. We don't know

422
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: those those raptors names, so maybe doesn't pass. But it's

423
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: called Runner and Yeller. So we have these two women,

424
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: and I like these two women a lot, but they

425
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: are surrounded by a whole slew of men because there's

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Speaker 1: Dr Alan Grant, Dr Ian Malcolm, John Hammond, the Little Boy, Tim,

427
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: Mr Arnold, Muldoon, Gennaro, Dennis Nedri, Beaty Wong, which which

428
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: brings us to the age old Bechtel cast refrain, what

429
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: if two or three of these characters were just named Cassandra?

430
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: What would be different? Oh, I don't know, fucking nothing. Yeah, exactly,

431
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: make make the lawyer be a woman. Have Mr Arnold.

432
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: Although I would not trade Samuel L. Jackson in this

433
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Speaker 1: role for the world, let's leave him um. I did

434
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: for one website. I did a gender swap cast thing

435
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: for this movie a couple of years ago, which I

436
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: thought because Laura Dern was like an arthouse like Lynch

437
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: Darling at this time, so I thought it'd be fun

438
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: if like Ryan Gosling was playing that and then and

439
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: then having Elizabeth Mossy Grant like I thought that would

440
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: be like a good I like it, and having a

441
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Speaker 1: cap Blanchet be John Hammond. I think she she'd rock

442
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: the cap. Yeah, for sure, I like that a lot.

443
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Speaker 1: We'll link that in the I'm interested in this, Yeah,

444
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: I'll send you the link to the So the point

445
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: is it's a couple I think strong, great female characters

446
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: surrounded by men. And then there's all these scenes like

447
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: the first scene you see where they're unloading one of

448
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: the raptors into like the raptor paddock, and it's all men.

449
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: And then there's another scene where genera the lawyer goes

450
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: to talk to the dude who's I guess in an

451
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: amber mine? He's looking for amber, and uh, those are

452
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: all men in that scene. You see the scene where

453
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: they're on the tour and it's all these Jurassic Park

454
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Speaker 1: scientists all but one man. There's one lady with a

455
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: top bun, everyone else as a man. It's me, it's you,

456
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: you were in this movie. But the point is, it's

457
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: just like crazy that we have to like look at

458
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: these scenes and like really like examines and study to

459
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: be like, wait, is that a woman? Wait that over there?

460
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: And it's because they're just almost always populated by men,

461
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: and it's annoying that it seems like this default to

462
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: just being filled with men and they're being no or

463
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe one woman, I think, and I feel like with

464
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: this story, it's possible to over analyze it or like

465
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: give it more thought about how much thought was put

466
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: into gender than Michael Crichton would ever. May he rest

467
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: in peace. But like you know, it's like you can

468
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Speaker 1: technically make the argument of Okay, we have this colony

469
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: of all female dinosaurs, but they're being regulated and trying

470
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Speaker 1: to be contained by men, but they're busting and did it,

471
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: and like we can make this argument. I have a

472
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: hard time believing that Michael Crichton or Steven Spielberg or

473
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: really anyone involved in this project in a high level

474
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: actually thought about the role of gender. That's hard. So

475
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you can analyze it that way if

476
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Speaker 1: it makes you feel better, but I don't think that

477
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: they actually intended it to. That's the beauty of art,

478
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: though it doesn't matter what the artists intended. I don't

479
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: want to art to give men more credit than they deserve,

480
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: right either way. Okay, So there's like three specific sequences

481
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about, and then a few

482
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: other scenes. Starting with the one that you already hinted at,

483
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: where Malcolm is like, God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs,

484
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: God creates man, Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs, and

485
00:27:53,760 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: then Dr Sattler says, dinosaurs eat man, women inherent the earth.

486
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: And then they both look at her and they're like, oh, shoot,

487
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I want to marry her. That's a good it's such

488
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: a great But I would also sorry argue that this

489
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: is harkening back to one of our favorite mixed we

490
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: needs articles. I'm the girl and I kick here's my

491
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: line where I say, you know or spice World girl

492
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: powa Like it's like, okay, cool, we got that moment,

493
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: thank you, and seen like, yeah, that could be if

494
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Speaker 1: that was the only thing she does, or like the

495
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: only impressive thing she contributes to the story or anything

496
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: like that. No, I just meant like the line more

497
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: than I mean the character. Obviously, Seller is a great character,

498
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: but just like sometimes lines like that, I don't know,

499
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: I feel manipulated by them where they're just like, hey,

500
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: girls can't do things too, and I was like, yeah,

501
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I know, so have put more girls in your fucking movie.

502
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: You showed like, you know, good point, But it would

503
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: be much more. It would be more annoying to me

504
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: if that was something she said, and then none of

505
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: her actions backed that up, like she's like women power.

506
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: And then so at least she goes on to do

507
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: a whole slew of things, which is what I wanted

508
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: to talk about next where it's later in the movie,

509
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: but all the power they have to basically reboot all

510
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: the systems and undo the damage that Dennis Nedri had done,

511
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: who at this point in the story is dead. R

512
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: I p he slipped on And just love that little

513
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: the slide whistle or whatever. I love that scene that

514
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: where he gets killed by the delaposaurs. Fuck, it's so good.

515
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: But so there's a scene where John Hammond is like,

516
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: well Doon bring back my grandchildren, and Nell He's like,

517
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm going with him. So it was just like cool

518
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: to see her making a choice, taking action, going and

519
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: doing something. A lot of movies would have just had

520
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: her stay behind, not do anything. Nurse and Malcolm back

521
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: to health with his leg that's all sucked up, would

522
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: be like, hey, do you want to take a picture? Oh?

523
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking, um, it would be like The Big

524
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: Guiled where they're like, oh, your leg is fucked up.

525
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, yeah, I want to cut your

526
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: leg off, and then fucky, No, it's Jeff goldbl And

527
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: he just wants to take a perverted picture. He doesn't

528
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: actually have sex. He just wants to look like he

529
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: enticed or whatever. Enticing, right, He really does just like

530
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: want to go home and feed his dogs. But that's

531
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: that's what I find so interesting about Dr Selller, because

532
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of her like because there's

533
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: certain scenes in the movie where she takes the role

534
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: of kind of like the person to like knock the

535
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: sense into some of the dudes, you know. But what

536
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: I like about her character a lot and why, Like,

537
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, she was my first crush growing up and

538
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff or whatever. But um, the one reason

539
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: why I really like her as a character in these

540
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of movies is because she seems like she's the

541
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: only person who's living in the moment during the movies.

542
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of caught in their headspace of like, oh,

543
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I should have like made this park better, or like

544
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: I hate kids and I need to learn how to

545
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: like kids or whatever. She's like, all right, what do

546
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: you need? What do we need to do, like, how

547
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: can I? She's like the most like how you're saying,

548
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: like she's the most proactive character. She's like, oh, I'm

549
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: going to stay behind and learn more about the sick

550
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: trisatops or whatever, like And I like that scene because

551
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: it shows that whole scene where the encounter the sick

552
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: triceratops and it's it's barfing. She pops the pimple on

553
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: it and she's like, well, why is it sick? Are

554
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: they eating this West Indian lilac? It's poisonous? You really

555
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: like get to see her expertise, like she's she knows

556
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: what she's talking about, she knows what she's doing. So

557
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: it's just like a cool moment. So many movies, especially blockbusters,

558
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: would have been like she kind of can do a

559
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: thing sort of, but like we don't really get to

560
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: see it, or if we do, it's for a second

561
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: and then never again. Or she gives the sick tri

562
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Saratovs true loved kiss and it's better wakes up. Yeah,

563
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I feel better now. And that's technically a great queer

564
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: moment in film because the transparentas would be a woman.

565
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Remember when Laura durned French that dinosaur really progressive moment.

566
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: That's David Lynch's yeah, okay. So then after Dr Grant

567
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: and the kids have gone off somewhere and they appear

568
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: to be safe, and then there's the scene where Mr

569
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: Arnold leaves to go turn the power back on, but

570
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: he's taking a while because he's like she would be

571
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: three minutes, and then it's more than that. More time

572
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: has passed, so she's like, something's wrong, something happened. I

573
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: have to go turn the power back on. And then

574
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: and in that moment, that's when like Muldoon's like, I'll

575
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: go with you. She was wanted to be like I'm going.

576
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm making the decision to go. I gotta do this,

577
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: and he goes with her, and then immediately as soon

578
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: as they get outside, he's like we're being hunted. Oh.

579
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: But before that happens, John Hammond's like, this should be

580
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: me that ghost because I'm a and you're a and

581
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: she's like, look, I'm a Republican. I would love if

582
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: that was their fun difference Laura during the twist is

583
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: she's a Replican, I'm a Democrat and you're a Republican. No,

584
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: And she's like, we can discuss sexism and survival situations

585
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: when I get back, which again, sure, maybe that's another

586
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: look at what I can, but I've never interpreted it

587
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: that way. I was just like, you go, girl. Maybe

588
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: it's because I'm simple, but that was the point. But

589
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, if I had seen this movie when I

590
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: was a kid, I wouldn't feel that way, But seeing

591
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: as I saw it last week, I do feel that way. Sure,

592
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: so they go, they get hunted. She has to go

593
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: on by herself, so she goes into the shed. The

594
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I was just when I was again like thinking about

595
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: this movie for today as a kid, when after I

596
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: saw this movie, anytime I swing from branches, I would

597
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: always like pretend that was her because she heard like

598
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: her six swing that she does, She's like foom in

599
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: the lands in the water. I just thought that was

600
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: the coolest. Yeah, yeah, that was a good good plant,

601
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: good swing, stuck the landing. So she goes in the

602
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: shed and then she does all the things she needs

603
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: to do to turn the power back on. She's being

604
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: again told what to do by a man, but like

605
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: that's not her area of expertise exactly. Yeah, So she

606
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: manages to do everything. All the systems come back online

607
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: and then there's that great moment where she's like Mr

608
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Hamm and I think we're back in business. And then

609
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: a raptor bursts out. And what I really love about

610
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: this is that she has to save herself. The raptor

611
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: explodes out into the room. She gets through the gate. Yeah,

612
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: and in the human succeeds over the raptor because the human,

613
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: I guess, is smarter. Although the raptors have shown intelligence

614
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: their systematically to testing the fences for weaknesses anyway, systematically,

615
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: she beats him with with Sam Jackson's arm. That would

616
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: have been a great moment. I wish that had happened.

617
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: She grabs that Mr Arnold and then she's like, oh sweet,

618
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: there's a weapon, all right? Yeah? Good enough? Right, Because

619
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: so she gets she saves herself. She closes the door,

620
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: and then she like sort of like okay, and then

621
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: Mr Arnold's arm falls on top of her. She thinks, hey,

622
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm just resting my arm here. I know that you

623
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: almost died, but let's have a casual. How many years

624
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: of therapy will it take to bounce back from that?

625
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: So many? So many? The point is she saves herself.

626
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: She doesn't have to have any man save her. It

627
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: was a very exciting moment for me. The next thing

628
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about was when the kids are

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen or like the whatever that area is,

630
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: Like the guest services hoasically craft services, they just turned

631
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: the cameras and just yeah, they're like, oh hey, look right,

632
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: and they're eating jello, you know as craft Services always

633
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: has and Lex seize the raptors and takes them into

634
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: the kitchen and the raptors can open doors. The smartass

635
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: lady dinosaurs figured out how to open doors like a

636
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: cat in an emergency want figure how to open a door,

637
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: saving all the people in the apartment. Called an exciting

638
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: day hit in Brighton. That would happen in Brighton. It

639
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: would happen. Yeah, this is my English news bit. I

640
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: just if like a dinosaur is like a cat. They

641
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: just like under the door, like how cats can slide.

642
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: The raptors just like on the you know, blows its

643
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: nose on the thing and they just itself basically like

644
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I can't. So the two raptors come into the kitchen,

645
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: Lex with her younger rather tim she's the one who's

646
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: like pulling him around like here, follow me, like she's

647
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: doing all the things to save them, the sweet trick

648
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: with them, the ladle yeah, and the oven. Yeah, so

649
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: alpha big sis And it could be yeah, it could

650
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: be because she's like the older one, the bigger one.

651
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: But sure, but like the and the writer could have

652
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: made the choice to like make the older one a boy,

653
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: to have him be the one in the book, Tim

654
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: is the older Yeah. Yeah, yeah, cool. So I like

655
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: in the movie that they're like, all right, let's have

656
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: the girl be the one who's Spielberg one, Crichton still

657
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: climate Ja and I are also dead. He loses. So yeah,

658
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 1: it was really cool to see Lex being the one

659
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: to be like, I'm in charge here and I'm going

660
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: to save my little brother. Yeah. I like that part.

661
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she like closes the freezer to yeah,

662
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: so she actually it's it's interesting that the only now

663
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about this, technically, I think in the

664
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: all the Jurassic Park movies, the only two people to

665
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: kill dinosaurs are Lex freezing the raptor and then Malcolm's

666
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: daughter Kelly kicking the with the gymnastics skills in the

667
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: Lost World kicking the raptor off on the spike. So

668
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: it's only been two little girls killing dinosaurs in these movies. Hell,

669
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, that's impressive. Yeah, but you're right.

670
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: She like the raptor ends up in the freezer. I

671
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: think because he was like changing Tim into she was

672
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: just hard god chasing Tim into the freezer. And then

673
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: Lex runs up and locks the raptor into the freezer.

674
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, I froze to death in there. Presumably

675
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: we don't know whatever. So then the final scene is

676
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: when they're in the control room at the end, Ellie

677
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: like runs to the computer. She's like, I got to

678
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: boot up the door locks because I guess she knows

679
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: how to do that, which good for her. And then um,

680
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: the raptor starts coming in through the door, because again,

681
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: raptors know how to open doors, any door, any door.

682
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: They have mastered all doors doors, the rotating doors. There

683
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: aren't that, and that would be fun if there was, though,

684
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: would its tail get her tail gets stuck in the door?

685
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I know we keep accidentally miss gendering. These depends on

686
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: how advanced the door was, because if the door had

687
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: good sensors and the door wouldn't close on and objecting,

688
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: you know, in front of the doors. In defense of

689
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: the doors, I'm sure that the raptor would have been fine,

690
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: A good point, thank you. This is the door. Okay.

691
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: So they're in the control room and the raptor starts

692
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: to come in and Grant can't hold the door by himself,

693
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: so Elie Satler has to help him. Meanwhile, Lexi's like,

694
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: wait a minute, a unique system. I know this. She's

695
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: the one to save the day for about two seconds

696
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: and then the raptors coming through the glass. But it

697
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: was just school like the choice could have been made

698
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: where the little boy knows how to be a hacker,

699
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: but Tim is like useless in that scene. He's just

700
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: like he said, come ahead, well kids, are you go

701
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: to school? Go a library card? You dumb ask He's

702
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: a little kid. I mean that would that would have

703
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: been I think maybe Spielberg was like thinking the endgame

704
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, because there's the gun there, and

705
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: then like Ellie and Grant are like trying to get

706
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: the gun but hold the door, and then like Tim

707
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: give us the gun, and then Tim just shoots the

708
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: raptor and then we've got like our own traumatized like

709
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: child like, well, I never understand why they don't say,

710
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: like Tim, grab that gun, give it to an adult,

711
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: help us. But he's just like, yeah, maybe Spielberg because yeah,

712
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: I mean it's so like because he's just sitting there

713
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: like patting his head, just like because he is a kid.

714
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Never reminded me of my little brother or like I

715
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: would freeze a dinosaur from my brother. And also he

716
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: was such a WinPY little kid. He was afraid of

717
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: water till he was like seven. So I was like, oh,

718
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: he's like my brother. He's probably afraid of the ocean. Yeah,

719
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean I related to I probably would be too

720
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: afraid to do anything in that just paralyzed little boy child.

721
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder Spielberg maybe just didn't want to

722
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Speaker 1: have the imagery of a kid picking up a gun.

723
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: I wonder because that's definitely like a he's all about

724
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: family and family dynamic responsible. I mean, he did remove

725
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: the guns from it for him now, but he did.

726
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: He did remove the guns from one version of ET,

727
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: like from all the like digitally remove all the guns. WHOA,

728
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know that three points first period. I'm excited

729
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: to see because this ending scene is is really cool

730
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine how it would have originally

731
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: been where like Grant was going to kill the raptors

732
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: with like a crane that was like sitting in the

733
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: visitor center, like he was going to like grab a

734
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: raptor and then like throw it at the bones, and

735
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: like that's how it originally was us to end. But

736
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: every I think they were so impressed by the c

737
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: G I test of the t Rex and they like

738
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: to the character so much, so like let's bring your

739
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: back at the very end, And I don't know, it

740
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: feels more. It would feel kind of gross if like

741
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: our hero just like straight up murdered two dinosaurs. Like

742
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: the whole movie. The whole movie is like trying to

743
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: say that they're like animals and they're just natural creatures.

744
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: And then it's like it's not their fault that they

745
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: were genetically engineered and put in this century, that they

746
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: don't belong by a bunch of horny dude. Not their fault.

747
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say if Alfred. If I would put

748
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Alfred Will in this movie, Okay, here's whatever it is.

749
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I would do. I would keep the casting

750
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: as is. What I do is I would pull like

751
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: a deep Roy and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Tim

752
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: Burton version where deep Roy plays all of the Olympus,

753
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: like hundreds and hundreds of deep Roys. So this would

754
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: take most of the women out of the movie. But

755
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I think it is the move to make alkim up

756
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: all of the dinosaurs, hundreds of him. I've decided not

757
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: to endorse this. He's a character actor. He could he

758
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: could really really bring something special to each dinosaur role.

759
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see Alfred Billina play sick try

760
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: Sara Tops. So somebody should photoshop that, for sure, because

761
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: they just photoshop what like cats in there. The dinosam

762
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: that comedy in there. So now just calls out for

763
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: Bechdel cast fans to photoshop alf Molina in the same positions.

764
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Make Alfred Freddy and to sick try Sara Tops. A

765
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: real missed opportunity. But you know it's an all right, hey,

766
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: listen to this segue. It's about love, the love that

767
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: you have for Alfred Molina, and how I like that

768
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: there's no discernible love story in this movie. Yes, yeah,

769
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: that's another thing that would have been so And I

770
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: went into the movie just knowing who the cast was.

771
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, someone gonna I mean, they

772
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: want to fuck her. It seems, well, yeah, they're horny

773
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: diosaur guys. Right. But here's something I've been confused about.

774
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: So Dr Grant tells Dr Malcolm that he and Ellie

775
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: are together, and I always assume that that was just

776
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: because Dr Grant has a crush, But then I was like,

777
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: are they together? They kind of like at one point

778
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Ellie calls him honey and they like hug a lot,

779
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, maybe they are low key dating. But

780
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: the movie just makes not a big deal of it

781
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: at all because like Grants such a sour puss that

782
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: he's probably like he's not. He doesn't seem like a

783
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: PDA type. And there was definitely more. There was definitely more,

784
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: like because I have like all the trading cards and

785
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: stuff for dressing. Um, there's like cut shots and cut

786
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: moments where like they are more physical. But I think

787
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: but I think maybe there's even one where they high five,

788
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: which again adds more to their weird a sexual I mean,

789
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: it's more on sand Neale's part, not online they love

790
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: to high five my sex part. That's honestly how I

791
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: initiate sex right five? What's up? We're doing this now? Gil?

792
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: And I just had sex on the air. Big back

793
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: toil moment. It ends with Grant like wanting the kids

794
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: or being like hey, kids, and then he's like hugging him.

795
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: They're in his arms on the helicopter. After a couple

796
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: of days, like so the second someone ships their pants,

797
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: he's like, actually, I'm out there. I know that they

798
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: should they're too old to be shipping their pants. But

799
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: at some point up well, he was electrocuted, so he

800
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: probably right. He's having ball problems. The second side effect

801
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: is any one of those kids takes the ship, he's

802
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: going to be like, you know, I remember why I

803
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: hate kids, but yeah, if any I was gonna just

804
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: say if anything, because it's it's that thing where it's

805
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: like Grant is almost the main character in that sense

806
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: where he's the one who goes on this journey to

807
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: like oh I understand kids now or something, you know.

808
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: But it's like kind of nice that I think in

809
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: a story in specific that Dr Satler isn't like you

810
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: need to have kids or we need to get married

811
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: or anything. She's just like, yeah, kids are cool. I

812
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: guess maybe I don't know whatever. It's like almost like

813
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like they kind of nicely. Don't

814
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: like make that a big dramatic thing at all or anything. Right, Yeah,

815
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: there were a lot of points in the movie where

816
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this could have been turned into a

817
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: weird romantic kind of I mean all throwaway moments, but

818
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Blockbusters do it all the time, and it was kind

819
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: of like a pleasant surprise. I was like, oh, no,

820
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: they're just going to keep moving forward with the story. Right.

821
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: There's that famous scene in Jurassic World where Bryce Tellis

822
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: Howard is running away from the t Rex in high heels,

823
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: and it's famous because it's so absurd, especially because t

824
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Rex runs at thirty two miles an hour and she

825
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: could not outrun him, especially in heels. So I just

826
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: want to say that I really like that Dr Sadler's

827
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: costume in this movie was very reasonable. No one felt

828
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: any need to put her in high heels for no reason.

829
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: And another thing with a lot of Blockbusters is that

830
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: the one adult woman is very hot, very sexual. We

831
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: already talked about Michael Krenton making all the scientists hot,

832
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: but she wasn't. She wasn't overly sexualized or even its

833
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: sexualized at all. Is as far as I interpreted it

834
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: like she's just wearing practical clothes that you would wear

835
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: on a dinosaur. I mean, I think her khakis are

836
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: the same length as Gennaro's, you know, like he's wearing

837
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: some short shorts. Yeah. I also noticed in cut offs,

838
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Speaker 1: very very sensible. Is he a never nude? I love

839
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Speaker 1: his death scene he just runs into the bathroom, and

840
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: then the t Rex is like, yeah, we're a fully

841
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: artist with dinosaurs. Are going to rip this audio and

842
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: use it in their movies and then we're gonna make

843
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Please donate to our papal account.

844
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a second. Yeah, Hey, do

845
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Speaker 1: you want to hear me bark like a dog? Pretty good?

846
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: Really good, really good? Pay me before you use that clip.

847
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Speaker 1: Beaty Wong Henry Henry Wu, I think it's his name.

848
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: He says. All vertebrate embryos are inherently female anyway, They

849
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: require an extra hormone given at the right developmental stage

850
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: to make them male. Proving movie proves this fact that

851
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: no one else knew or studied or anything right in

852
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Heads Unite that all embryos are female, which is why

853
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: male cats have as many nipples as female cats. This

854
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: has been cat facts with Caitlin. Okay, that is inherently

855
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: pointland that women aren't gonna inherit They're going to reinherit

856
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: the earth again in that way movies saying yes, Quen. Alright,

857
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: let's talk about if this movie passes the BACTO test

858
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: or not. Okay, I made a case for the Raptors,

859
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: No stupid and run. There's a scene that happens off

860
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: screen where women talk, but it does not pass the

861
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: BACTO test, where Lex goes up to Grant and she's like,

862
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: she thought I should ride with you because it would

863
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: be good for you. But they were talking about man,

864
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: so it does not pass. Here's the problem with this

865
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: movie is that the two female characters are not even

866
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: in the same room or seen for most of the movie.

867
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Speaker 1: But there is the scene in the control room at

868
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Speaker 1: the end whenever they run in and Lex says, we

869
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: can call for help and Satler says, we got to

870
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: reboot the system first. I think that's a pass that

871
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: I did make a note of that, and that might

872
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: be by the skin of its teeth, might be where

873
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: it passes for me, that's what. But it is a

874
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: barely barely pass and it's the only time where you

875
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: basically see those two and it's a classic. I mean,

876
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: it's the thing we've encountered, I would say, and at

877
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: least ten movies we've talked about now where it's like

878
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: the female it's the problem. Isn't the female characters that

879
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: are written. It's just the fact that there are no

880
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: female characters for them to interact with at length. Ever. Yeah, yeah,

881
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: that was my question. It was like, it just seems

882
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: like it feels like every time it's like they can't

883
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: have two women together because that's oh, we've already hit

884
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: our maximum or something like. It just seems like these

885
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: movies are so afraid, are so afraid to like just

886
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: put to that somehow. Yeah, Like, and I think that

887
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: this era like is still a time where it's like, well,

888
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: why would we put two women together in one seed?

889
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: What purpose we filled our quota with two women characters total?

890
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: We don't need more, right, right, and we're not forcing

891
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: them to hook up all the time, which is like,

892
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: you know good, but like you know so this I

893
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Speaker 1: would say that that was a scene where it passed

894
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: for me, but I was still like, ah, man, you're

895
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: doing so well. But it's another Princess Leia kind of

896
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, well, one female character is great,

897
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: and then we have, you know, a few women on

898
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: the fringe, but other than that, you know, just like

899
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: one really well written female character and only meant for

900
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Speaker 1: her to talk to. That's why I like about your

901
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: podcast so much, because it's like it's almost that idea

902
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 1: of like, well, because I love the Transformers episode where

903
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: you're like, well, this, it doesn't feel right to pass

904
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: it because even though it gets in like logically, but

905
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: in the spirit of like what the test is, it's like,

906
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: does it really actually like in that sense of like

907
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: this movie where like it has a lot of these

908
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: like mic drop like kind of empowering moments. And I

909
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: remember Steven Spielberg in behind the Scenes stuff saying that

910
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: he made Lex the older one, made the woman you know,

911
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: made Lex interested in computers, and made her the hacker

912
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: because he was like, these are aspirational elements that he

913
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: was adding, like in his words, that's that's what he

914
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: was saying. That he made those choices to do that

915
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: because he wanted to inspire little girls to get into

916
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: technology and stuff. But it's like, but at the same time, like, oh,

917
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: but it actually doesn't feature two women having a conversation

918
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: with each other. But that's not about men. So it's like,

919
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: it's just like I like that. You guys talk about

920
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: that a lot because it's like you're welcome. Okay, I

921
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: mean thank you, you're welcome. Now we both did it. Hey,

922
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: let's write the movie on her nipple scale. I'm going

923
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: to give it three and a half nipples. I think

924
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: it might be a little high. No, I feel good

925
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: about three and a half because Dr Sadler is a

926
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: great character. She does a whole bunch of ship. She

927
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: makes a lot of decisions that influenced the story. She

928
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: is very proactive. She unfortunately doesn't have the same number

929
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: of like memorable lines or like great monologues like Malcolm has.

930
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: I do like that she says the whole like men

931
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: get eaten and women inherit the earth. That's the line, right,

932
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: So I like her, And I also liked that lex is,

933
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: like you said, like she was. Decisions were made to

934
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: make her active. She does things. She fucking boots up

935
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: the door locks. Good for her. But because there are

936
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: so few women when there could be many more. Again,

937
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: we identified several characters that like why not make this

938
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: a woman. It's just a sea of men with like

939
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: tiny little sprinkles of a strong women and it um

940
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: So that's why it gets a three and a half

941
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: from me. And the nipples belonged to you know what,

942
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Trisaara tops even though reptiles do

943
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: not have nipples. That looked like an animal that would

944
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: have nipples. So okay, just more revealing about you than

945
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: anything else. You're just like, that looks like there's some

946
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: milk in there. I didn't it though, I don't know,

947
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: I get I mean, I would like to believe that

948
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: there's I just had a disgusting thought because it's both

949
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: very cheesy and hearkens back to an episode that by

950
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: the time this comes out, well have been a long

951
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: time ago. Spider Man two reference got Molina on the Rain,

952
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: You know that line where where Aunt what's her name?

953
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: Is like, I believe there's a hero at all of

954
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: us When she said that zete milk, I believe there's

955
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: some milk at all of us. That was the five

956
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: year you were Aunt May with it. Anyways, I finished

957
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: my mics aren't lemonade, and I'm really thinking at a

958
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: higher level Stephen, what would you like to write the movie?

959
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I would give it three sweaty lawyer nipples out of

960
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: five again for the reasons that this movie has. I mean,

961
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: I think like comedian Rio Butcher, she summed up Drassic

962
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: World in a really great way, which is like a

963
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: nineties version of a feminist movie where it's like, let's

964
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: give the mean female character ship and then like that's

965
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: how you learn that she's empowered or whatever. And I

966
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: feel like even this movie still suffers from a lot

967
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: of that same thing. Um, but it is like there

968
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: is those baddest moments, and I think again, like the

969
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: through line is that at least Dr Sadler's character, she

970
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: like stays true to herself and she doesn't like she's

971
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: kind of on her own path that it's kind of

972
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: like mysterious. She's kind of like she kind of holds

973
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the movie at arms length, which I

974
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of like she's kind of like amused by like

975
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: what's going on and concerned, but she's never like and

976
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: she's in the moment, and I kind of like that

977
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: about her characters. My favorite seen is when she's crying

978
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: and then she's like I need ice cream. She eats

979
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: some ice cream because women be crying, women be eating

980
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: ice cream. But like, honestly, sometimes they are. I've done it,

981
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: for instance, me yesterday. Let me really, let me take

982
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: you back a full twelve to sixteen hours anyways, see,

983
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've cried and eating ice cream. Of course,

984
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: it's not a gender thing. It's a human thing. Man

985
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: crying ice cream just the other day. Not to brag,

986
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: but I saw it. Yeah, I mean I've probably cried

987
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: while eating ice cream while watching this movie. Wow, this

988
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: is a movie. I do cried you, by the way.

989
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: It's more of a human response exactly. It's not a

990
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: gendered response. Everyone wants to cry an eat ice cream.

991
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: These are things that all people want except for lactose

992
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: and tolerant their mutants. You're fucking freaks. This is my

993
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: new friend tier of people. I'm pre steampunks. You're okay, now,

994
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: lactose intolerant people. What if I t're on my radar,

995
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm coming for you. What if I told you I

996
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: was lactose intolerant, which I am. I knew that. Now

997
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel bad first because I didn't remember. In second,

998
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: because I just declared war on you, and I can't

999
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: take it back. I'll fight back. I'm a strong, independent woman.

1000
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: You're very strong, but you're calcium deficient because you're not

1001
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: drinking as much milk ast me. I'm getting We don't

1002
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: even we started. People should not be consuming dairy or

1003
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: any mammals after infancies. Some real lactose intolerant propaganda. I

1004
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: breastfit from my mom just this morning, and I feel great. Hey,

1005
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: what would you like to write the movie? Oh? Yeah,

1006
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it three nippies. I'll give two of

1007
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: the nippies. Well, I'll give one nippie a little Tim,

1008
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: because I can relate with being afraid and the youngest

1009
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: and being completely useless. So you gotta give one to

1010
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Tim given, and then I'm going to give the other

1011
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: two to the sick dinosaur um because because it has nipples,

1012
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: it has it has nipples, and it's I just love

1013
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: that a sick dinosaur. You never think of a dinosaur

1014
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: is sick. So in that way, if I can change

1015
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: the way I think about dinosaurs, and specifically female dinosaurs,

1016
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: what great. Never thought of female dinosaurs as sick before

1017
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: I saw this movie, and then I realized I was

1018
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: so fucking wrong. That's okay, three but ed but for

1019
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: for for serious talk because like many movies we've discussed,

1020
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the central female character is wonderful, but she's not given

1021
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: really any or barely anyone to talk to, and I

1022
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: sort of am inclined to discard, like, well, all the

1023
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: dinosaurs are female, right, but they're dinosaurs, so not to

1024
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: trigger any dinosaur listeners we have out there, but you're dinosaurs,

1025
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: So in that way, I'm going to give it a

1026
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: three perfect Stephen, thank you so much they're being here. No,

1027
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm really, I'm really I'm really happy you guys asked me.

1028
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: I really love this podcast lot, so I'm happy to

1029
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: have been on it. Awesome. Where can people find you online?

1030
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Do you always find me at Steven Ray Morris on

1031
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram? And then my Drastic Park podcast is

1032
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: at Sea Jurassic right on Things and like, yeah, it's

1033
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: just people sharing stories of their childhood that only relates

1034
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: to Durassic parking dinosaurs, because that's the niche that I'm

1035
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: trying to fill. You work very important. You can follow

1036
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: us at Bacto Cast on Twitter, on deep, Instagram, on Facebook. Hey,

1037
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: come and see us live in New York in September

1038
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 1: for the cinder Block Comedy Festival date with the place

1039
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: September nine. Will post about it. Hell fucking yeah, I

1040
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: see you there, see you there. Also, if you wanna

1041
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: give us money to alleviate the financial burden that is

1042
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: being alive but mostly doing a podcast. To be fair listeners,

1043
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: none of us asked to be born, But if you

1044
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: want to help us with some of our production costs

1045
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: for the podcast, you can donate a few dollars on PayPal,

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