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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Who stood out at Rookie Mini Camp?

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Speaker 1: No Buddy.

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Speaker 3: I've always thought the coaches here have had really good energy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought Bill's practices were always really high

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Speaker 3: tempo and coaches running to and front drills, and it

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Speaker 3: just didn't feel like a lot of time, you know,

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Speaker 3: being wasted. But I definitely took notice of the energy

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Speaker 3: just overall from all the coaches. I'd also just highlight

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Speaker 3: Scott Booker was the safety's coach. With one guy that

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Speaker 3: really just stood out to me, booming voice, knows what

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Speaker 3: he's looking for, watching the practice from the back end

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Speaker 3: of the defense, you know. Even Thomas Brown spending a

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Speaker 3: lot of time with Josh McDaniels on the field during

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Speaker 3: that practice as well, like someone was actually watching.

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Speaker 4: I think having a guy like Rabel and Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 4: on him, I think Bill will limit some of the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium, and the schedule is out. That was

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Speaker 2: the big breaking news last night at eight o'clock. And

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Speaker 2: as as expected, the schedule looks good for the new

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Speaker 2: looks good. It's good, although there's some tough stretches and

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into that. We're gonna dissect the

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Speaker 2: what's that?

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Speaker 4: Do you think that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Your mic is on protected?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, naked Mike, watch your piece.

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Speaker 3: Dog on the show here anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened to Paul Sponge? Paula you want the Sponge?

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Speaker 4: I just want to apologize out.

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Speaker 3: She's the one who said it's just so thank god cover.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the schedule. Congratulations Celtics. You're showing

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Speaker 2: a little Selfltics pride last night. Proud of you. Evan's happy,

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Speaker 2: he'll be stot and what else? We might have a guest?

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have You're gonna have a guest.

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Speaker 2: Remember the defense?

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Speaker 1: I hope?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well talk some ball, you can only hope. What

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Speaker 2: else do we want to talk about? We're moving into

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Speaker 2: the schedule A lot of a lot of the schedule

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Speaker 2: is very exciting.

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Speaker 3: We have our slate of games which, uh, we knew

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Speaker 3: the opponents, and that's why I like what changed. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was an order you could have

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Speaker 4: To me, Well, you would be in the minority. Everybody

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Speaker 4: thinks this sets up very well for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Well except for Paul, but anyway, I do think that

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Speaker 2: you know, it might like I already knew who they

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Speaker 2: playing home and away for a long time. But I

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Speaker 2: it does give a completely different dynamic to that slate

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Speaker 4: I would say it can. I don't think generally it does.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well how they you know, you know who

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Speaker 3: I think the two biggest takeaways for me are won

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Speaker 4: So is that why? People? And I'm just wondering because

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Speaker 4: What am I missing? Why is this set up so well?

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Speaker 4: when I look at what the schedule like, not as

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Speaker 4: I think there's some teams that don't have any prime time.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee it doesn't have any prime I.

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Speaker 2: Thought the rule now is everybody had to play one Thursday.

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Speaker 4: So I always look where is the prime where is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six six or seven in the AFC to end

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Speaker 4: Mark positive calumn for the Patriots. Miami in January in Foxborough.

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Speaker 3: But you get a shot at Tua in the weather.

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Speaker 6: What makes me a little nervous is that on paper,

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Speaker 3: But it's just there's so many variables. It's so hard

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Speaker 4: I won't disappoint you completely, Freddie. I will like sort

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Speaker 2: Listen, like we won four games last year, right, I

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Speaker 2: You know, Pittsburgh is a team that they about these

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Speaker 4: That's why I hesitate to say, well, this the spot.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the spot is until it gets there.

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Speaker 2: Right Like see now you learn you can't judge it

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Speaker 2: until you get this.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not talking about the I'm not talking about

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Speaker 4: the teams. I'm talking about the spots. Like this whole

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Speaker 4: thing of the schedule really sets up well for the Patriots. Well,

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Speaker 4: To injuries and that will happen. You know, There'll be

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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, but I'm not gonna hide my enthusiasm that

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Speaker 3: We can only talk about what we've seen the Patriots do.

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Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Fred, like, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: What does it look like the other team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree with everything Fred said that. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm excited because of the moves, not the schedule, right,

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Speaker 4: Same thing I used to do then, only in reverse.

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Speaker 4: You'll probably split those, yeah, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Everything would have.

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Speaker 3: It's just it goes back to when you were here

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Speaker 4: Fred.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's hard to give Mike Rabel and this

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Speaker 2: I say it would have been two more wins last year,

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Speaker 3: And that I think is their mean. Their mean wins

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Speaker 4: Okay, so two more wins because I said one, so two.

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Speaker 2: Follow the Rabel's staff. They won six games last year.

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Speaker 3: Bread is spoken, the ceiling is seven for Paul.

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Speaker 3: Well, I I believe the floor you was, you know

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Speaker 2: Place, so well we got we got somebody coming in

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Speaker 2: right now. Want a special guest to the Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Jack Gibbons, Hey, Gregers.

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Speaker 4: He talks like he's on a talk show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's ther Griffin show. Have a seat, Jack.

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Speaker 3: I think Jack, it's gonna be a little high for you.

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Speaker 2: So it's Mike Dusseau, I'm Fred Kurz, Paul Parrello, Alex Francisco.

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Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: That's producer Matt Matt Morrell.

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Speaker 2: We were here all the time, twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 2: They don't let us out, there's no windows. They just

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Speaker 2: bring in food. So but welcome to the team, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I think every team needs a linebacker named Jack.

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Speaker 2: I think it should be a requirement. I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: That would help with my job security for sure.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

440
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 2: So, how's it been so far?

441
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great.

442
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 7: Definitely loving the guys on the team, the coaching staff,

443
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 7: the culture here. I mean, it's cool to be a

444
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,640
Speaker 7: part of a program that has such awesome history. And uh,

445
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 7: really enjoying the area too. I didn't really know much

446
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 7: about the Northeast of being from Texas coming out here.

447
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a really beautiful part of the country.

448
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,239
Speaker 4: So I'm enjoying it.

449
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 2: What have you learned so far about the Northeast?

450
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 3: I learned that when it's sunny, it's an awesome it sucks.

451
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll just stick with it first the weather's coming,

452
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 4: it's a nice nice for sure. Yeah.

453
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 3: So I'm just curious about your coming up with Mike

454
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 3: Frable and you know, breaking in a couple of years

455
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 3: ago and then really you know, in twenty twenty three,

456
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 3: I think you played a bunch under him, and you know,

457
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: what was the connection you made with him and how

458
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 3: did he help your development?

459
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely coming in as an undrafted guy, obviously, the

460
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 7: odds were kind of stacked against me, and I actually

461
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 7: actually cut me out of training camp and then I

462
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 7: got brought back on the practice squad and was kind

463
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 7: of grinding away for there and then finally got an

464
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 7: opportunity late in the year when guys started going down.

465
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 7: But I think a big thing with him, as he

466
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 7: always says, like, it doesn't matter how you got here,

467
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 7: it's what you do when you get here, And you

468
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 7: can earn opportunities by the way that you work, in

469
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 7: the way that you prepare and play. And so that's

470
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 7: something I really appreciated about him that they were willing

471
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Speaker 7: to give a guy who was an undrafted rookie, put

472
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Speaker 7: him out there and starting a Thursday night football game,

473
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 7: Like I mean, that was that was a great opportunity

474
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 7: for me, and luckily kind of played pretty well there

475
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 7: and earned some more opportunities going forward. Like you said,

476
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 7: but that's something that's really cool about this play, this

477
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 7: program and him and his staff is that they don't

478
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 7: really care how you got there.

479
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: It's what you do when you're there.

480
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: How would you describe like you're mostly in the middle,

481
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: or at least you were in Tennessee. How would you

482
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 2: describe your game as a linebacker? You're like like a

483
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 2: sideline to a sideline guy. How would you describe it?

484
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like to I take a lot of pride

485
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 7: in being versatile player. Like that first game that I

486
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 7: was active as a rookie, actually played all three linebacker positions.

487
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 7: I was on the edge a little bit, both inside

488
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 7: backers spots, and uh. I'd like to say that I'm

489
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 7: a smart guy, pretty instinctive and be able to kind

490
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 7: of handle all that but then also anticipate what the

491
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 7: offense is going to give us and get a kind

492
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 7: of a head step. But I think in this league

493
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 7: you kind of have to be a complete linebacker. You

494
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 7: can't really be like just the old school run stopper

495
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 7: coverage guy. It's so I'm trying to kind of develop

496
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 7: my game and be in all those areas. Be good

497
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 7: and coverage, be good against the run, be good blitzing,

498
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 7: just kind of be a well rounded linebacker.

499
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: So is that sort of versatility where doctor Gibbie came from.

500
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was kind of like my rookie year, And

501
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 7: like Ota is like this coach Rabel likes to ask

502
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 7: a lot of questions quiz guys, and I answered a

503
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 7: few of them right, and he started calling me doctor

504
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 7: and it kind of stuck there for a little while,

505
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,239
Speaker 7: and then he left. It kind of died down and

506
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 7: now out here. He's kind of the only one called

507
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 7: me that maybe a few of the guys from Tennessee.

508
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 4: Mike's a bit of a smart for sure. He's been

509
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: busting my chops since he was playing.

510
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, speaking of doctor, how are you feeling You

511
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 6: had a season engine injury last year?

512
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that was definitely It's been a us as

513
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 7: getting back, But I'm feeling good. I'm out there practicing

514
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 7: with the guys, trying to get better every day, just

515
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 7: kind of continue to build those reps and get more comfortable,

516
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 7: trusting myself, trusting that I'm healed, and working really hard

517
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 7: in the training room with the staff in there, and

518
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 7: so it's going well.

519
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you think having a head coach who was the

520
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 2: linebacker helps you? Yeah, definitely.

521
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 7: I mean from the beginning in Tennessee, Like in rookie

522
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 7: Minnie camp, we're sitting in there and he's coming in

523
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 7: and giving us a little nuggets here and there and

524
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 7: helping us see the game from a different perspective. So

525
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 7: definitely try to absorb all the knowledge that you have.

526
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 7: But he's a coach that really could coach all the

527
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 7: positions on the field. That's something I thought was really

528
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 7: cool is we'll always have these meetings where he's up

529
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 7: there coaching detailed technique about the O line, the corners,

530
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 7: the wide receivers, the linebackers and stuff. And so just

531
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 7: learned so much football of those two years in Tennessee

532
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 7: and that I was with him. And that's something I

533
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 7: really appreciate about him, is even on like special teams, everything,

534
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 7: he's he's coaching everything with details.

535
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Speaker 1: So that's cool.

536
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you a little about the defense. So

537
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm kind of the resident defense guy's I'm like, why,

538
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 3: actual defense guys, and they're all on me, But what

539
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: can you tell us about this defense? Because been here

540
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: for a while studying the old Patriots three to four,

541
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 3: going way back, where you got a lot of two

542
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: gappers and space eaters, and it would seem to me

543
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: that this defense with Tourell Williams is about attacking, about

544
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 3: getting up field. I know you can't give away too much,

545
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: but what can you tell us about this defense?

546
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 8: Yeah?

547
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 4: I think that.

548
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 7: For one, I think we've got a great group of guys.

549
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 7: I think we've got a lot of competition at every position,

550
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 7: which is going to help make the whole team better,

551
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 7: the defense better, and like you said, I think it's

552
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 7: going to be really aggressive. We're going to be uh.

553
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 7: I think everyone's trying to do things that are simple

554
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 7: for us but difficult for them. To try to marry

555
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 7: up some stuff, make things look like this, and then

556
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 7: we're comeing with something else, and I think that it's

557
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 7: gonna be really exciting.

558
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: I think that what it's going to bring it to

559
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: life is the guys.

560
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 7: And I think that we have the right guys that

561
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 7: are going to play hard and uh obviously super talented,

562
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 7: but be super connected already. The communication and connection and

563
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 7: out there on the field, off the field, the way

564
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 7: you guys talking to each other is better than I've

565
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 7: seen in my first three years. So I'm really excited

566
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 7: about that.

567
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you a little bit about what

568
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 4: the team did. Was it yesterday? Yeah, yesterday with the

569
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 4: you know, the community outings and with that experience was

570
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: like I know, Alex Jora.

571
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 9: I wasn't with Jack's group. I was with Brabels group.

572
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 9: But which which place?

573
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was super cool.

574
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 7: I don't really know where everyone else went, but I

575
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 7: was at Pine Street, in which Holmo sheltered down in

576
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 7: South Boston and it was super cool. We were able

577
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 7: to make a meal for them and then serve it

578
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 7: to the most men's and women's shelter and interact with

579
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 7: them the people that were staying there, and get a

580
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 7: tour the facilities, kind of see what their life's like

581
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 7: with the mission that they're doing there, and they're doing

582
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 7: some amazing work. So it was super cool, super hombling

583
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 7: to be able to experience it.

584
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: Is getting out in the community important to.

585
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 7: You, Yeah, absolutely, that's something that I think is super cool,

586
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 7: and especially for the Patriots and coach for Abe and

587
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 7: them to provide such a cool opportunity like that where

588
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 7: we can go do that as a team. That even

589
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 7: brings us even closer together. And yeah, it's awesome to

590
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 7: be able to give back for y Camp.

591
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: We have many causes that are near and dear to you,

592
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: anything special.

593
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I really like to support anything that has to

594
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 7: do with like children's who especially children who were dealing

595
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 7: with like a terminal illness and things like that, So

596
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 7: like Saint Jude's and stuff like those causes that Ronald

597
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 7: McDonald house, things like that.

598
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: There's plenty of opportunity here for.

599
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 9: Great children's hospitals. Get you on some visits.

600
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 10: Absolutely.

601
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: I had a question, Oh, I can jump in with

602
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: a defense question.

603
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: I was going to say this, So schedule release came

604
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: out last night. Is that a big deal for players,

605
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Like when the schedule comes out or it's like, what.

606
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: You haven't seen this right now?

607
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I was definitely waiting for it and

608
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 7: looked at it, But like everything, by the time we

609
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 7: get to the season, it's one at a time, so.

610
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: You can't really look at it too big picture.

611
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 7: But it is cool to kind of see, like, I mean,

612
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 7: if we got I know, we got like three in

613
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 7: a row on the road, So thinking about something like

614
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 7: that about we're gonna have to really lock in for

615
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 7: that stretcher, especially if you've got like an international game

616
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 7: or something like that where your bye week is is

617
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 7: kind of what you're looking for.

618
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the.

619
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Speaker 7: Day, I mean, we kind of knew who we're gonna play,

620
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be week by week kind of head

621
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 7: down focused on what's in front of you. So it's

622
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 7: it's kind of both I guess excited to see it,

623
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 7: but not not reading too much into it.

624
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: So that's basically when it comes out, you're looking at

625
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 4: individual things like nikes.

626
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely want to see those primetime games, the

627
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 7: night games, any anything where he might have to travel,

628
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 7: just just kind of see it. But I mean, honestly,

629
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 7: like after last night, I kind of forget about it

630
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 7: until the season.

631
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: So sure, I got one more for you, Jack, Just

632
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: like Jack, you have to be Yeah, yeah, the game.

633
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: Just what was your impression of coming here and playing

634
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: the Patriots?

635
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 7: Like, oh, we actually were played them in Tennessee. I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah,

636
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 7: Patriots came out there. But yeah, I had a great

637
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 7: impression of the team, just the way that the Patriots

638
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 7: kept fighting and clawed their way back into that game,

639
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 7: and then Drake taking the guys down to tie the

640
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 7: game late and score. I was really impressed with his mobility. Uh,

641
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 7: he ran all over us. I was telling him that

642
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 7: the other day. I was like, I didn't know you

643
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 7: could run like that. But just yeah, I had a

644
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 7: great impression of the team, just kind of the way

645
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 7: they played and excited to get get on those guys

646
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 7: side and gets work.

647
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, Jack, we'll let you get back to it. I

648
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: know you're busy. Anytime you want to come by you

649
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: know where we are now.

650
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, awesome.

651
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Yeah, thanks, I'm Jack Gibbons.

652
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: Welcome aboard.

653
00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: Thanks Jack, great, all right, Jack Gibbons, Jack good one,

654
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: good stuff.

655
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: Good stuff to get those defenders in here, paul Y.

656
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: Mike gets really excited when still smiling.

657
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: I like, I like, you know, undrafted, you know, gut cut.

658
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, came back.

659
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: Reminded me Troy Brown, Yeah, got cut a couple times

660
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: by Parcels. Yeah, came back on the team and ended

661
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: up being like mister Patriot.

662
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Speaker 3: It's interesting how to me how he's going to fit

663
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: in with Ellis and Spolaine and like he I really

664
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Speaker 3: thought it was interesting hearing him say he played all

665
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Speaker 3: three linebacker positions, which you know, I'm not sure exactly

666
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Speaker 3: what they're gonna play a lot of nickel, which is

667
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: two linebackers, Like, who are those two guys? Thinks Spoleaine's

668
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: definitely one of them. But Gibbons is in that similar

669
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Speaker 3: mold of being able to run. And you know, that

670
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Speaker 3: was kind of one of the questions Nerdy that I

671
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: had teed up. But just that position at linebacker. We

672
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: talked about it a lot last year of how hard

673
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: it is to either get around or get through blocks.

674
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Speaker 3: And to recognize things. And you know, him talking about

675
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Speaker 3: the experience and the smarts of it all. I think

676
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: that must be such a big key for an inside linebacker,

677
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: getting experience understanding the blocking teams, because you it's just

678
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: so hard having played freshman football of the position that

679
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: you're coming on. But it was, you know, you almost

680
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: I got two guys coming out at you like I

681
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: understand the dynamics of the position, you know, on the

682
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Speaker 3: basic level, and from his perspective, it's it's it's nice

683
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Speaker 3: to have a guy like that who can run and

684
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Speaker 3: I think a lot a lot to the second level.

685
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Speaker 4: Yep, absolutely, all right, we'll.

686
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Speaker 9: Take a perfect New England name too.

687
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

688
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, every team should have a linebacker

689
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: named Jack.

690
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: Don't you think I think so? Yeah, it's a good

691
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: good name yea, because of like Lambert and Ham.

692
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Lambert Jack Ham, Yeah.

693
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: Jack Campbell Detroit that was Yeah, I can't think of

694
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Speaker 4: any others.

695
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Jacks out there now. That was

696
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Speaker 3: a very popular name. I feel like the last like

697
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Speaker 3: decade or so of.

698
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Everybody's doesn't Ohio State have a Jack Jackson? Yeah?

699
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 9: Jackson is like the new take on the name.

700
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, A five to five, Pats five hundred.

701
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Speaker 2: It's the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the

702
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: email address. I know the newsletters going out tomorrow and

703
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: a lot of documentary stuff going on in there.

704
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 9: Well why don't you tell us why?

705
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Because tomorrow the Patriots are releasing Forged in Foxborough and

706
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact time that it will drop,

707
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: but you'll be able to see it on YouTube. Primarily.

708
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: It's a it's a full length thing. It's over an

709
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: hour long, and it's uh, it's episode one. There'll be

710
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: another episode coming out later closer to training camp. But

711
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about what people have to say about it.

712
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm excited too. These are right up my alley. These

713
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: are the kind of things so that we produce where

714
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: I don't really want to watch it until it's actually out,

715
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: like it would kind of ruin it to be part

716
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: of Like I'm not part of the process with it,

717
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: so it's like kind of nice for me just wait

718
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Speaker 3: till it's done and then experience it with the fans.

719
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: But I see it looks it looks really really fun.

720
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: A lot of behind the scenes stuff you.

721
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Speaker 4: Have to experience it with the fans, right, with the people.

722
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: He's a fan at heart. I'll always be a fan.

723
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: That's right, It's all right. I can't forget my people.

724
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Mike's working on some some nineteen eighty five Patriots.

725
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: I got it to write a game day article. But

726
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Speaker 3: the way I've been doing it is, I went, I've

727
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: been watching the TV broadcast at the game in order.

728
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Speaker 4: So it's, uh so that's bringing me back.

729
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: It's a rock fight. It's oh my god, it's But

730
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: I was telling Paul, it's funny watching the TV broadcast

731
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: because you pick up a lot from the announcers. They

732
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Speaker 3: have little stories and so you know, it's not just

733
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: like looking at the box score telling you how it unfolded.

734
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Speaker 3: But one funny thing I told Paul was they were

735
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Speaker 3: playing the Bucks, and you know, Steve de Berg is

736
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: just incompletion, incompletion, and then they show like Steve Young

737
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: on the sideline. Well, they can't play him yet now

738
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: it's too soon for him. Maybe next year.

739
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Speaker 4: It's like, why are you going to a future fam.

740
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Speaker 3: You got a Hall of Famer just sitting watching the

741
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Speaker 3: game and they're like, we can't play. I mean, it's

742
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: like October, I'm like, what he needs the whole year off.

743
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: But you see, uh, you know rookie Bruce Smith was

744
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: also that year and just destroying the Patriots. But it's

745
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: it's fun to you know, just go back and inform

746
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Speaker 3: I'll be interviewing some of those guys.

747
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: So it'll be good.

748
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: Nice look forward to that. And then again Forge and

749
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Speaker 2: Foxborough will drop tomorrow, so good stuff.

750
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Speaker 3: It's almost it's long too right for the Forge of I.

751
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Said, well, this episode is over an hour. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah,

752
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: And it's it's all like Alex said, all behind the

753
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: scenes stuff. The staff, the football staff gave us great

754
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: has given us great access, continuing to give us great access.

755
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 9: Have you guys ever had access like this?

756
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: Not to we never had access to the team meeting.

757
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Speaker 4: That being shot, that's I think the only thing that

758
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Speaker 4: we haven't had access to.

759
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Speaker 2: Well, I think and also a lot of them, like

760
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Speaker 2: we're in the weight room, where like we never were

761
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Speaker 2: able to get that.

762
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Speaker 3: You know, is there a certain point, Fred, I mean

763
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Speaker 3: without get giving anything away, but is there a certain

764
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Speaker 3: point that was most interesting to you, Like was it

765
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Speaker 3: like the combine behind the scenes or the draft behind

766
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Speaker 3: the scenes, or anything like that that that stood out

767
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Speaker 3: to you as as as being.

768
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Speaker 2: Well, like Paul said, you know, getting having being able

769
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Speaker 2: to be there for the first team meeting. We've never

770
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Speaker 2: seen that before.

771
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Speaker 4: We've never done that, you know, I've never even shot it. Like,

772
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of these things that we've been able

773
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Speaker 4: to have cameras at in the past. You they're not

774
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Speaker 4: always made public, but we've been able to have sort

775
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: of eyes and ears to shoot things this like that

776
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Speaker 4: team meeting. I don't to my knowledge anyway, I don't

777
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Speaker 4: think we've ever had access to that's a first time ever.

778
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: Such a big moment for Vrabel too, because first time

779
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Speaker 3: speaking to the team, setting the tone. We saw the

780
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Speaker 3: clip that he had with Kaden Wallace, which I liked.

781
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Speaker 3: I like when coaches do that kind of creative stuff.

782
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Speaker 3: So I'm excited.

783
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've never been had quite the access

784
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Speaker 2: that we had this year at the combine. You know,

785
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: being up in the suite, you'll see it. I don't

786
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: want like, I don't want to give not I don't

787
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: want I want people to be able to see it. Yeah,

788
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: but I think if you're a Patriots fan and you

789
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: watch this thing, you're ready to go. You're gonna finish

790
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: this thing. So let's go. Let's get this season going.

791
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: We've got the schedule. Come on, let's skip training camp.

792
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Let's get right out there, put the pads on, let's go.

793
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Speaker 4: I love it, so I'm always for that training camp,

794
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: all right?

795
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: So eight five five pats, five hundred. Let's get into

796
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: it a little bit. I forgot to give Matt morell

797
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: my one shorder. Oh you got it? What you get

798
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: me chicken fingers?

799
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Speaker 1: I got your cheese pizza.

800
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: I can't hear you. What did you say? Hold on,

801
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: he's learning how to run the board. That still doesn't work.

802
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's all right. I trust that you'll have

803
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: food for me. All right, thank you?

804
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Freddy, Freddy will not waste away.

805
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate, Connecticut. What's up Nate?

806
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 11: Hey guys, you guys hear We're good.

807
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 8: So I had a quick thoughts and a couple of questions.

808
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 8: You guys, So I I saw the schedule.

809
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Speaker 12: Of release last night. I thought it was really well done.

810
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Speaker 12: But something to point out that.

811
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Speaker 8: We're going against the Raiders weak one, and I think

812
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 8: that's a really good matchup because all the free agency

813
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 8: and the draft to be put into the d line.

814
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 8: Going against Ashton GenZ, I think that will be a

815
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 8: really good matchup because you know Ashton gents. He's saying,

816
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 8: like to NFL dms, like draft the guy you can't tackle,

817
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 8: Just stuff like that. And my second question to you

818
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 8: guys is, since we're going against the Ravens and a

819
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 8: couple other teams this year they have mobiles quarterbacks, do

820
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 8: you think we're gonna have success or even better success

821
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Speaker 8: since we have like all the mobile linebackers like Roberts

822
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Speaker 8: playing and like Jack Gibbons. That was just in studio and.

823
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks Nate. So a couple of questions thereic

824
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: you know, going up against Ashton Genty, Hey, it's gonna

825
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: be his first real NFL game. I'm assuming he's gonna

826
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Speaker 2: play in the preseason, but this will be the first

827
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Speaker 2: time he's probably gonna play maybe against starters from the

828
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Speaker 2: other team. So that's gonna be great to watch.

829
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Speaker 1: Good.

830
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: But it's like it goes back to Paul's point, like

831
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Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see what he is some of us

832
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: like Dush and Genty coming out but.

833
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Speaker 1: Draft.

834
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Speaker 2: But you know, whether it's Genty or his second question

835
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Speaker 2: defending mobile quarterbacks. I'll ask our defensive guy here, do

836
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Speaker 2: you think the Patriots are more equipped to do that

837
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: this year? Are they a faster defense?

838
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean a little bit, but I would say I

839
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get with the good. I think there'll

840
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: be some bad too. I think you'll be able to,

841
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: uh not be as susceptible to early down passing because

842
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: you're not going to have the early down two gaping

843
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: guys just trying to build the wall, not getting penetration

844
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: because on those early downs that's easy for the quarterback.

845
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: There's no pressure coming around. I think this defense is

846
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: getting off the ball every single time. So on one hand,

847
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: you're going to be better against the pass on early downs,

848
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Speaker 3: But I also think that that has the opportunity to

849
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: open up lanes and gaps and so there you might

850
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: get gash from time to time. Yes, having mobile linebackers

851
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: should help running down quarterbacks. But again, if you're aggressive

852
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 3: and then you take a false step again Lamar Jackson,

853
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: it could be six points. So it's it's a double

854
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: edged short A little bit to me. You hope you

855
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: win more than you lose.

856
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you become a little bit more vulnerable but you

857
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: have the ability to make more plays.

858
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: But get more speed on the field. And I think

859
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: that that's that's something that is apparent to me across

860
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: the across the place. I mean, just look, you swap

861
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: out Milton Williams for Devon gotcha. I mean, I know

862
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: that they kind of played different positions, but at the

863
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: same time, between spa lane between Jack Gibbons, between even

864
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: Christianelli's like, everybody can run. Now, there isn't that big

865
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: middle linebacker that you're like, well, he's not going to

866
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: be quite able to get the edge against the faster quarterbacks.

867
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Speaker 2: David's in Florida. Hey David, Hey, guys, how's it going good?

868
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 12: So I had a little bit of constructed criticism and

869
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 12: then I had a question afterwards. I'll start with the

870
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 12: constructive criticism. So I watched the schedule leaf video we

871
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 12: put out yesterday, and I feel like it was a

872
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 12: little bit underwhelming, which one I understand the Dave Portnoy one.

873
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Speaker 2: Okay, I know it can't.

874
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 12: Be fireworks every year, because the last couple of years

875
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 12: we've had some really great ones. I just felt like

876
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 12: it was a little bit underwhelming and it wasn't as

877
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 12: as creative. That's all obviously not really a huge.

878
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Deal, but not fair enough.

879
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

880
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 12: And then for my question, it's like a three part

881
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 12: question year. So looking at our schedule, which game are

882
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 12: you most excited for as a fan? Which one are

883
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 12: you most confident in? And then which one are you

884
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 12: most scared of?

885
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Get Okay, most confident, most excited, and most scared of?

886
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: Thanks Dave.

887
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, uh excited at Buffalo Sunday night football.

888
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: Maybe Dig's coming back against his old team. It's just

889
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: a real chance to make a real win there. Uh

890
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: game that I what do you say? Was scary?

891
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: Most scared, and most scared?

892
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: It's the last game against Miami, having an opportunity to

893
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: maybe get in the playoffs or do something and then

894
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: losing again to two. Yeah, that scares me again, especially

895
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: at home.

896
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Most I have to say right now, I'm most excited

897
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: for the home opener. You know, it's the home opener.

898
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: That was my nice most excited about home opener. Yeah,

899
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: we have.

900
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: A bummer being on the road for the opener. I

901
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, yeah, yeah.

902
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: And the most that's scared of at Baltimore.

903
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: I fear no, man, I don't like that game.

904
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: Well, see, I'm not scared of that one because I

905
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: know it's going to be no, like like, we're probably

906
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: going to lose that game. He grew up on the

907
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: game like, well, that's why I'm afraid of that. So

908
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: it's not a game like I'm I'm most scared of

909
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: at New Orleans because I'm not. We don't do really

910
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: well there.

911
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: I'm not a baby, so I'm not afraid of teams

912
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: that we should be. I think that's the game most That's.

913
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: The point you look at and say, oh, we should

914
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: beat that. But we do well in New Orleans and

915
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: if we lose again, I don't know why.

916
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: When was the last time we lost there?

917
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: We lose there a lot, Paul, we do.

918
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: When was the last time.

919
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't, I forget, but I just

920
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: remember Brees. I just I just remember going there and

921
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: not doing well.

922
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: You know.

923
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: So, but it's a game like I feel we should

924
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: win and if we don't win, like.

925
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: That's the game I'm most confident.

926
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm scared of losing that game. Yeah, that's understanding the

927
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: game I'm most confident in at Bengals.

928
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: Perfect. That's the fredest answer ever. I love it.

929
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: That's an awesome answer At Bengals.

930
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: I mean, did you hear Trey hendrickson the other day?

931
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean something every year with these guys with contracts,

932
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's like trying together things with silly putty.

933
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: Right now, what are we.

934
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: Doing over there?

935
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: We're looking at the schedule. We play Penn State in

936
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 4: like October. What's that the Cleveland browns helmet looks like

937
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: the Penn State House. I have twelve peoples.

938
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 9: It just it's white.

939
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: It's a white home.

940
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: Maybe they're color blood.

941
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

942
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: I had a lot of people reaching out to me

943
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: last night since one is Penn stayed on the schedule.

944
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know. I don't have people make

945
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: fun of me, like I don't control.

946
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: Having no logo and just an orange helmet, Like come.

947
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: On, maybe that's their color rush helmet.

948
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 9: I don't, No, it's just because our graphic is read.

949
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: So what game are you most looking forward to? Alex?

950
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 6: I would say home opener, just because it's it's so exciting,

951
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 6: you know, there's just an energy about being down on pregames.

952
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: Hope springs eternal, everybody all.

953
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: Right, No one's lost hope yet We saw life in

954
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 6: our eyes. The Panthers game doesn't really frighten me much

955
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: at all.

956
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: That was an candidate for my most confident What are

957
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: you mostly scared of?

958
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 9: I'm most scared of that last Dolphins game.

959
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is home, but that's why.

960
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: But it kind of scares me for reasons like you

961
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: said of like there's a little like pressure. Actually if we're.

962
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 6: In a situation where we can make a little win

963
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 6: win and you're in.

964
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and two is healthy?

965
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 4: But who it never wins when the temperature is below

966
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: forty but.

967
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: It's gonna be forty degrees at game time?

968
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: What does it mean?

969
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 9: Something's gotta give forty degrees that that time of years.

970
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's hit up cam in East Providence.

971
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: What's up cam com?

972
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 11: How's it going, can you guys hear me?

973
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

974
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: Good energy?

975
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 11: How's it going? So I have a question and then

976
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 11: I have an and like, yeah, I have two questions.

977
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 11: So the first one is, so I'm the one at

978
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 11: training camp I make the big posters for the players.

979
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 11: So I was wondering, can one do you guys give

980
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 11: me a player to make That's one of the questions.

981
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 11: Can you guys pick any player on the roster.

982
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: So I can make them Roberts Blynn.

983
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 11: Robert Blain, all right, sounds good.

984
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 13: Second question, Moses going into the going into training camp

985
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 13: with the stacked wide receiver women that we have, who

986
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 13: is on their verge of on their way out?

987
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: I missed that because Fred was butchering names and they

988
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: threw me off. Who was on his way out?

989
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

990
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: Who?

991
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 13: Like?

992
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: Why is someone on their way Like?

993
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 11: Who who's on the chopping block? In the wide block?

994
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 4: Okay, wide receiver?

995
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: Wide receiver might be comes to mind, you know, like

996
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: there's a they're not They're not going to have the

997
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: same amount of receivers in September that they have now,

998
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: So there's quite a few.

999
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think born in Booty are probably on that list.

1000
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: I think Baker was probably on that list.

1001
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: These Do you think a trade.

1002
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: I don't, Okay, I mean, I don't really know if

1003
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 4: any of those guys has much trade value. But yeah,

1004
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: I mean i'd take the day three pick for anybody

1005
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: if I do you take it?

1006
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: But do you think that's that's how they'll be?

1007
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: No?

1008
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: I think that someone will end up getting released, right.

1009
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: I think they'll probably keep this group largely intact into

1010
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: the off season into the OTAs, which, by the way,

1011
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: we'll get a look at what our first look at

1012
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: the entire team next week at an o T. I

1013
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: think the twentieth Yeah, I think it.

1014
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: Might be during this show too, so thanks to adjust.

1015
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: So maybe I will not be getting a little then

1016
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: maybe you.

1017
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Would maybe time we'll see talk about it.

1018
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I think that friend's got it.

1019
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: I think it's like a born Booty Baker but the

1020
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: killer Bees.

1021
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: But I like your point about Booty because I to

1022
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: be honest, Yeah, I mean that's and that's generally how

1023
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: I feel too. But guy who made a second your leap,

1024
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: and now he's got Josh McDaniel's coming in, and what

1025
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 3: can he do with Kai Shawn Booty. I'm not overly

1026
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: like optimistic that he's gonna continue to grow, but I

1027
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: think he's done everything he possibly can to deserve every chance.

1028
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: May not start. That's part of the that opens up

1029
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: a spot at least for a few weeks for somebody.

1030
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 4: If he's pup to start, which a lot of people

1031
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: have sort of speculated.

1032
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can kind of let it play out into

1033
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 9: the season.

1034
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 3: To me, I look at Bourne with that situation, because

1035
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: I think Born is the most suitable second backup behind

1036
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Digs of what they're going to ask Digs to do.

1037
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: You know, you look at all right, who's a lock?

1038
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I think I think obviously Digs at some points a

1039
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: lock with him. I think Polk, believe it or not,

1040
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I think he's a lock for now. I do. And

1041
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: I think obviously Kyle Williams is a lot.

1042
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: He's a lock. You know, Hollins is a lock, and

1043
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: Doug four and Douglas is a lock. I do not

1044
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: think Polk is a lock.

1045
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: So I'm at five year at four, Yeah, I have.

1046
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: Four locks, Yeah, yeah, I mean that sounds about it.

1047
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: And how many are gonna keep seven?

1048
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: Probably six? Yeah, so you know, but it could I

1049
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: mean you could keep seven too, especially if Diggs is

1050
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: one of those seven, and you know, maybe he's not

1051
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: on pup but maybe not quite ready to go, like

1052
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: you know, one of those kinds of deals the.

1053
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: Only thing so people will have to you know, because and.

1054
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: I did think it was interesting. When Kendrick Bourne talked

1055
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: last week, he mentioned that he sort of underestimated the

1056
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: recovery and how much that it still affected him coming

1057
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: off the Tory acl that he had the previous season

1058
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: and he didn't feel like he was quite himself. So

1059
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: even if you're out there playing and you're one hundred

1060
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: percent quote unquote, maybe you're not quite ready to be

1061
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs yet.

1062
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Yep, I haven't.

1063
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: It's been a busy week since I noticed.

1064
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Two days ago you weren't at work and today you are.

1065
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Is anything different between two days ago and today?

1066
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 10: Well, I took a pre scheduled day off on.

1067
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Pre scheduled so you knew the Celtics going.

1068
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 14: No I Want concert on Monday night, and uh, I

1069
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 14: ripped it up pretty good, feeling the next morning, I

1070
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 14: am still body surf, I'm old and I still have

1071
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 14: not recovered.

1072
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 10: And then I was at the Celtics game.

1073
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: You got into it with a fan.

1074
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 10: No, I did not get into it with anybody at

1075
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 10: the Candle Mark concert last night. At the Celtics game.

1076
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 10: I can't really say it as much, but no, I'm

1077
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 10: just kidding.

1078
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 9: I did have an incident at a game this year,

1079
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 9: didn't you.

1080
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 10: Oh, I look, I I stay out of trouble. My

1081
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 10: father keeps me out of trouble. Actually, to be honest,

1082
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 10: sometimes when road team fans come gotta have road etiquette

1083
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 10: to Celtics games. It drives me nuts. I'm not gonna lie,

1084
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 10: It absolutely drives me.

1085
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: Up a wall, even if they have road fan etiquette

1086
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: or if.

1087
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 10: It's like through the wrong way, regardless.

1088
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: You feel like I'm at home. I want to be

1089
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: able to enjoy the game among my fans, among other yeaes.

1090
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 10: And like I'll just say, last night, these Knicks fans

1091
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 10: came in and they're peacock and already Evan doesn't have

1092
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 10: no series, but you know, without without Tatum, so they

1093
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 10: think if they're here for a party, right, they're they're

1094
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 10: here for Nixon five. And I just like want to

1095
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 10: remind them, like you're the New York Knicks, like you

1096
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 10: haven't won a championship in fifty years, Like I just

1097
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 10: that was never my mindset, Like pre two thousand and

1098
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 10: four Red Sox, like you didn't count your chickens before

1099
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 10: they hatched, Like you made sure the Red Sox were

1100
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 10: gonna win before you started celebrating, like you you know,

1101
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 10: the choking, like you know how this goes, like I would.

1102
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: Just you know, I agree. I think there's a there's

1103
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 4: a chance. There's a chance I'm not saying a chance,

1104
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 4: saying there's a chance.

1105
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Of course there's a chance.

1106
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 10: Don't come to Boston and start, you know, going around

1107
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 10: chanting Nixon five and things like that and expect not

1108
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 10: to get any smoke. That's all I'm saying.

1109
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 6: Okay, they piped down in the second half.

1110
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 4: It was that.

1111
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 10: I mean, it was all therapeutic based off of the

1112
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 10: twenty four to forty eight hours all the Spanders have had.

1113
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: I love the way they play. I think they you know,

1114
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: they was gritty, they played really good defense at times. Uh,

1115
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: there was blood everywhere. Well, it was good. It was good.

1116
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Where are you coming from?

1117
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 10: Christian Barmore's press conference, the first time that we've spoken

1118
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 10: to him since unfortunately since the reoccurring of the blood

1119
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 10: clots last year, he'd you know, obviously had to get

1120
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 10: pulled off the field again. So uh, he's uh, he

1121
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 10: says he's a full go. He's a full go right now, really,

1122
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 10: he says he's yeah, he said he's a full go

1123
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 10: and no no restrictions, no limitations participating fully in the

1124
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 10: off season program cleared for football activities. Expectation is that

1125
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 10: he will be ready to go for training camp and

1126
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 10: be playing his normal his normal self. He said, you know,

1127
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 10: he's grown some it's more like a confidence thing that

1128
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 10: he has to like, you know, build back up that

1129
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 10: he's not gonna have any more setbacks or anything like that,

1130
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 10: and say he's starting to feel a lot more like

1131
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 10: himself and all optimistic, you know, all all positive things.

1132
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 10: I think it's because at this point it was almost

1133
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 10: like he wanted to stop talking about it, you know

1134
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 10: what I mean, Like it's kind of like in his

1135
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 10: past and he wants.

1136
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: To move on.

1137
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 9: Was he asked about going back on IR at all or.

1138
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was asked about, you know, just his emotions

1139
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 10: and having to go back. Can you know what what happened?

1140
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 10: That he didn't really want to get into the medical

1141
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 10: stuff of like what really occurred, But yeah, I mean,

1142
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 10: as you would expect you, he said, he was. It

1143
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 10: was tough, like you know, he was angry, he was

1144
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 10: upset because he put in a ton of work to

1145
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 10: get back on the field at all and then to

1146
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 10: have it, you know, pop back up. I think was

1147
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 10: tough for him. But he said now that he doesn't

1148
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 10: feel like he has any fear that it's gonna happen again.

1149
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Did he like get into like what was done or

1150
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: what he's doing that gives him confidence that it won't reoccur.

1151
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 10: He did say that, you know, there's some maybe some

1152
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 10: tweaks you know, to diet and things like that, just

1153
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 10: trying to really take care of himself. Not that he

1154
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 10: wasn't before, but you know, just maybe even more so,

1155
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 10: you know now that this has happened to him. But

1156
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 10: he didn't really seem to think that it was you know,

1157
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 10: anything that he did. It's kind of just like a

1158
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 10: freak thing that happened to him. And like I said, yeah,

1159
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 10: he's he's full go right now.

1160
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of well that's great new how much

1161
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: the befolio go you could be in May right now?

1162
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: How did he well, it's hard to know, but like

1163
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: how did he look like, you know, hefty wise.

1164
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 10: I thought he looked a little bit slimmer than the

1165
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 10: last time we saw him. Okay, and that's not a

1166
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 10: knock on him whatsoever. But when he had the blood clots,

1167
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 10: you can't really work out, like it's not like you're

1168
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 10: really doing much, you know, you have to really let

1169
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 10: your body heel and I thought he looked a little

1170
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 10: swelter than the last time that we saw him, because.

1171
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: He's got time to put that back on.

1172
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a good thing. Like I think

1173
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 10: when we saw him last year, he was out of shape. Yeah,

1174
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 10: I think he was a little bit heavier than what

1175
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 10: he was playing at the year before when he had

1176
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 10: the great season. So this looked more. He looked more

1177
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 10: like you know, the twenty twenty three body type, and

1178
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 10: you know, Christian bar more than he looked last year.

1179
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 6: When I saw him yesterday at the community event, I

1180
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 6: agree with you. I thought he looked a little slimmer

1181
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 6: and then I mean grant he was running around with

1182
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: eight year olds, but he was running around.

1183
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 9: It was a nice warm day yesterday and he was moving.

1184
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: Any questions have about how he feels like he'll fit

1185
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: into this new scheme.

1186
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 10: No, we didn't get too much into that. You know,

1187
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 10: I was thinking of asking that, But you know, there's

1188
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 10: a lot of questions about his road back and like

1189
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 10: the medical stuff, and I don't think this was the time.

1190
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 10: Maybe when we talked to him again in MIDI camp,

1191
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 10: like that would.

1192
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: Be about like lining up next to Bilton Williams.

1193
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 10: He did talk about Milton Williams, but more from like

1194
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 10: a work.

1195
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: Ethics standpointtle thing.

1196
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's been really impressed what he said with with

1197
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 10: Milton Williams his work ethic and they have a competition

1198
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 10: of who gets here first at the beginning of the day,

1199
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 10: you know, is uh speed, Maybe it's a sandwich.

1200
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: Might be today, which is a rarity. Okay, usually I'm

1201
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: first first.

1202
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: Ride my bicycle.

1203
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: Let me tell you it was a trek today, Yeah,

1204
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: in the rain.

1205
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: You think I could sell my wife on an electric

1206
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: motorcycle at some point because I was like, I could

1207
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: just drive to work on it.

1208
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: Why would be Yeah, imagine little basket.

1209
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell the story now, but

1210
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: I've I've driven a little embarrassing scooter like that before

1211
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: and just was completely oblivious to how embarrassing it was. No, no, no, no, Well,

1212
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: you can get your you can get your motorcycle permit

1213
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: and when you're sixteen, and that means you can ride

1214
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: a motorcycle by yourself. And so my dad had this

1215
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: stupid as a Honda Helix. It was a red one.

1216
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: So if you want to google it, you're watching it,

1217
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: go look at it. It's pretty bad. And so I

1218
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: just started riding it to school once I got my permit.

1219
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: But it's like it's an a it's like you know, a

1220
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: vespa basically, you know, you know, and people like nice bike.

1221
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I'm not taking the bus.

1222
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: And he puts that little backpack that rides high on

1223
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: his back. He puts that in the little basket in.

1224
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: It didn't have a basketball. I didn't have anywhere to

1225
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: put my helmet. I can't leave my helmet. Yeah. Sorry.

1226
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: I had to go back to Barbo though real quick,

1227
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: just to shift back to Patriots back football, but just

1228
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: to say, like, I think he could really lossom in

1229
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: this scheme. Like they're not going to ask him to

1230
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: like our Christian two gap right, Like it's they're just

1231
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: going to play to his strengths. Yeah, tell him to

1232
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: go get the quarterback like him and mill Williams. That

1233
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: should be an absolute nightmare if he's fully home, right.

1234
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 10: Well that and that was what Millon Williams said when

1235
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 10: he taught the other day, was it's the two of

1236
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 10: them are kind of the ones that are they're trying

1237
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 10: to lead the charge here together as a tandem. And

1238
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 10: I wonder, you know, typically speaking, you don't play both

1239
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 10: with three techniques out over the guards, so like who's

1240
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 10: going to play over the nose, Like who's going to

1241
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 10: be the guy on the inside, and how do they

1242
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 10: You know, it's probably gonna be bar More. He's bigger.

1243
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 10: You know, here's three twenty millon. Williams is two ninety five,

1244
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 10: you know, so it's probably body type wise, it would

1245
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 10: be him, So you know, he might see more double

1246
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 10: teams in there, he might have more run responsibilities in there.

1247
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 10: So you know, those are little things that I am

1248
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 10: just looking for, is how do they put both those

1249
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 10: guys together in spots and how do they how do

1250
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 10: they cover up the middle of the field because both

1251
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 10: those guys, to your point, dude, sort want to get

1252
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 10: up the field and want to make plays on the

1253
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 10: other side of the line of scrimmage and you know,

1254
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 10: defeat blocks and things like that. But you can't have

1255
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 10: both guys doing now, like someone's got a home in

1256
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 10: the middle, right, So it'll be interesting to see how

1257
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 10: they work.

1258
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: What do you got, Wow, there's your little red thing.

1259
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: Red thing that was that was? That was my bad motorcycle.

1260
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if the camera can exactly that's exactly

1261
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: what I expected. It looks like one of those little vespas.

1262
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 10: What's with the sound effect?

1263
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: Sorry? All right, back to the phone.

1264
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 4: Go to school like that.

1265
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dakota and.

1266
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: High school kids aren't judgmental at all.

1267
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: You get it, You get it.

1268
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: What's up Dakota in Nebraska? Dakota.

1269
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 4: No, it's it's actually Nebraska in Dakota.

1270
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: Right, all right, he's not there. So everyone's favorite caller,

1271
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Christian in La. What's up Christian?

1272
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 15: Hey you guys, good morning, good afternoon over there. Thank you,

1273
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 15: guys are taking my call here to Stundy, LA with

1274
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 15: its beautiful outside. So I know everyone's already talked about

1275
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 15: the schedule being favorable and how that seems like it's

1276
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 15: gonna obviously result and more wins for us. And I

1277
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 15: took a look at the schedule, and I believe, like

1278
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 15: Coach Brabile believed, that we're in a great position to

1279
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 15: take advantage of bad football by other teams, which it

1280
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 15: seems like based on the schedule and what the team

1281
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 15: did last year, we're going to see a fair amount

1282
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 15: up and it should get us at best close to

1283
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 15: us into the playoffs. Right, So that's supposed to feel good,

1284
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 15: But I'm thinking of the long term health of the team,

1285
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 15: and this sounds like I'm poopoo in the potential playoff

1286
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 15: run that we could be on. But it seems like

1287
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 15: we had the potential to do what the Browns did

1288
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 15: several years ago with Baker Mayfield, but they took advantage

1289
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 15: of a seemingly soft schedule and it makes the team

1290
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 15: look like they were better than they were, and as

1291
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 15: a result, they wound up in the the bottom middle

1292
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 15: of the draft the next three or four years and

1293
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 15: really could not build a team more than they had

1294
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 15: already gotten at that point. And I can kind of

1295
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 15: see a little bit of that for us, Or do

1296
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 15: you guys see that where let's do with eight and nine,

1297
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 15: we'd be in a good position to pick up someone

1298
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 15: next year to really continue to build the foundation of

1299
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 15: the team for the long term. We go twelve and

1300
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 15: five and it's two or three years before we can

1301
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 15: get a decent position to draft get anybody to really

1302
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 15: help conceive the build the teams for that.

1303
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: Do you want them to get better or not that? Yeah, Like,

1304
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the draft. I'm worried about winning football.

1305
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Speaker 4: And if the option is want, if I have two

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Speaker 4: choices to go twelve and five or eight nine. I'll

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Speaker 4: take twelve and.

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Speaker 10: Five right, Well, twelve and five is pretty intact.

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Speaker 2: That's a good but that's a good football if you

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Speaker 2: would if you're twelve and five were bad.

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Speaker 4: My urgency to get another good player in the draft

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Speaker 4: is not that high. If I can go twelve and five,

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Speaker 4: the schedule is not that bad that you're just beating

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Speaker 4: twelve bad teams.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if we end up eight and nine,

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Speaker 2: we're getting there.

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Speaker 10: So like I'll tank anybody in Washington right now saying

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Speaker 10: we had a top Oh.

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Speaker 4: My god, you know we just we cut the line.

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Speaker 4: We went to the NBERC Championship game before we got

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Speaker 4: another good draft pick.

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Speaker 15: Like, I know what you guys are saying, if I'm

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00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 15: with you, but what that resultant for the long term

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00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 15: health of the team. I don't want a two year

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00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 15: run when we win a couple of you know, he

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Speaker 15: won this year, Oh boy won this next year?

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Speaker 4: Five years?

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Speaker 1: The problem? Do you think the commander?

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Speaker 4: I just pushed back on the entire premise. Cleveland is

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Speaker 4: a is a pretty talented football team that had no quarterback.

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00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield crapped out if he continued to pay if

1332
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: he didn't get hurt the next year, and he continued

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: to play the way he did the previous year, he'd

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: probably still be in Cleveland and that team wouldn't be

1335
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: that bad. I mean, Miles Barrett's a pretty good player.

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00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb was a pretty good player. They had talent

1337
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 4: like that. They didn't like fall apart because they finished

1338
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 4: too well the previous year and didn't get a high

1339
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: enough draft pick. Baker Mayfield crapped out.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing. You know, if you're twelve and five,

1341
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: you know you're going to attract better free agents, right,

1342
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess the football game.

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Speaker 4: That's That's how I would look at it.

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: But Drake Mayce on our team. Hopefully the future is now.

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Speaker 4: And I would just correct. Mike Ramble said it as

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 4: introductory press conference that he hopes to be in a

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00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 4: position to take advantage of bad football. I don't think

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: he said, I'm confident we can take advantage of bad.

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Speaker 3: Foot, he said.

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Speaker 10: I think he's at the opposite Yeah.

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, is what he said. If I recall,

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: I use that.

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00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 10: I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade, but I

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 10: just did some of the predictions off the schedule that

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 10: they're going to win twelve thirteen games. I just like,

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 10: let's calm down a little bit, like, let's write, can

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00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 10: we at least see the team in training camp and

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Speaker 10: see what it looks like?

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Speaker 4: At the same time, can I at least see what

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Speaker 4: the other teams look like too?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It just like I have a lot of games in

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00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: my head that I think are very winnable. And if

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Speaker 4: Mike ends up being right and they're in a position

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Speaker 4: to take advantage of bad football, I'm expecting them to

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: beat the Carolinas, the New Orleans, the Tennessee's. That's not

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Speaker 4: taken into account whatsoever what those teams are going to be.

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Speaker 4: And I used it just the example. What if Tennessee

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: terrible team number one overall pick. What if cam Wood's

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Speaker 4: really good?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What if he's as as Fred said C J. Stroud

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00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: and as I mentioned Jayden Daniels. What if this is

1374
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: the third year in a row that one of these

1375
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: top pick quarterbacks really hits the ground running, Like you're

1376
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: gonna look at that. What if Tennessee goes twelve and

1377
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: five this year and then the Patriots lose to Tennessee,

1378
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Speaker 4: You're gonna look at it as like a terrible loss.

1379
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Speaker 10: I mean, I hope, No, I don't think that's going

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Speaker 10: to happen.

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Speaker 4: In full disclosure, I think Tennessee's a long way away.

1382
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Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean, I hope they win as many games.

1383
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 10: It's as optimistic as some people seem to be, but

1384
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 10: I just I can't have to see it first, Like

1385
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 10: it's been three years since they've won. I don't know

1386
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Speaker 10: how you make that.

1387
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Speaker 3: Mental leap where you're just like.

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Speaker 4: These five or six games that I think are very winnable,

1389
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Speaker 4: and my feeling is you're generally going to go three

1390
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: and three in those games. It's hard to win ten

1391
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 4: games and not have win all those games against the Carolinas,

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Speaker 4: Tennessee's New Orleans.

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Speaker 10: I would just say that on the positive side, there

1394
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 10: was always going to be an easy schedule on paper

1395
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Speaker 10: because of the opponents.

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Speaker 2: Like it you're a four one team, right, four is.

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Speaker 10: Going to be an easier schedule regardless of the order

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Speaker 10: of the games, but the base off the order of

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Speaker 10: the games, like they do have a nice September, Like

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Speaker 10: the September sets them up that they could get hot early,

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 10: like they could be a three and one team.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean I looked at it as maybe

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Speaker 4: they won't be one in three to start the year

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Speaker 4: the way they've been what four years in a row,

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: five years in a row, whatever it is, really.

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Speaker 10: And if you get off to a good start, then

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01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 10: then then you're rolling and you see what happens. But

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Speaker 10: I'm not ready to predict double digit wins. I mean

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 10: I can.

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Speaker 3: Predict double digit wins and not be disappointed by the season. Like,

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Speaker 3: how how is someone who's predicting twelve or thirteen wins

1412
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: right now going to look at us when they're if

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: they're like middling team and they're about round five hundred,

1414
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: and what's the explanation for you told us back? And

1415
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: are you not disappointed? Like it's just it gets so

1416
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: ahead of it that, like I want to see them

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: do it before I give them credit for doing it.

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Speaker 3: Like you can't just be like it's great, it's gonna

1419
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: be awesome. It just takes away some of the joy

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Speaker 3: of the character Red Sox.

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Speaker 4: You know, Red Sox made a lot of good moves

1422
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: in the offseason, and most of the moves they made

1423
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: have worked. Bregman's been great, Crochet's been great, and yet

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Speaker 4: here we are you know, toward the end of May

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Speaker 4: and they're under five hundred yeah, right, all right, Now.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to the PU Extras, where we

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Speaker 1: read your leftover emails. Guys. If they don't get read

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Speaker 1: on the show, send them the podcast at Patriots dot

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Speaker 1: com and we'll read them here. So, guys, what's up.

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Speaker 1: Let's happy, dude, Let's get into it again. Sure, all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Good day, PU crew and last week's

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Speaker 1: PU Newsletter Alex Question. Alex's question of the week was

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Speaker 1: will Eric find love? Eric has already found love. He's

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Speaker 1: in love with himself. You might have also found love

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Speaker 1: in or with Africa, but we won't know for sure

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Speaker 1: until he writes his book. So I guess we'll never know.

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01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: I seen Nick Casero getting some kudos for recent drafts

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: by the Houston Texans. Has his time with the Texans

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Speaker 1: made you reevaluate his time with the Patriots? Was Joe

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Speaker 1: Cardona cup more because of the performance concerns or more

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Speaker 1: out of desire by the new staff to clear the

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Speaker 1: decks of anything that might have the players looking back

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: to former glory years instead of focusing on the future.

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Speaker 1: Cheers Dan in Virginia in Michigan. I think Va in Michigan, Alex.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the news.

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Speaker 19: I guess okay, yeah, the news. Other thing?

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Speaker 20: I wish I got to spend more time with Eric, truly, did.

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Speaker 1: You learn a lot of wild I love scal He

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Speaker 1: gives a bit of Brian Griffin sometimes from family guys. Yeah,

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: but he's the man. He's uh. I think he's traveling though.

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Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I good times.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sertain. I always joke about this du duce.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's watched papers games since he left.

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: Did you overlap with him at all?

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Speaker 20: For like maybe a week and a half If that,

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01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 20: he was very nice met it was great, But like,

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 20: I don't blame him if he hasn't watched a game

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01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 20: like I've been.

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: He's been doing it for I was doing it to

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Speaker 1: quit a job.

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Speaker 20: And never step foot in there again. For ye, Like

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Speaker 20: when I quit Marshalls, which was my first job, I

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Speaker 20: didn't shop again out of Marshall's TJ max until like

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Speaker 20: I was twenty to targeting TJ Max.

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Speaker 1: That was it TJ al Right. So to Nick Cassario,

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Speaker 1: kudos for his recent drafts. Obviously he was here, but

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: he was working with Bill who I think Bill had

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Speaker 1: the override with a lot of stuff. But he made

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: that crazy trade for Will Anderson with CJ. Stroud, He's

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Speaker 1: done the big splash moves.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, I mean, I think Casario obviously being kind

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Speaker 21: of like the lead guy over there, helps him be

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Speaker 21: a little.

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Speaker 10: More loose with how we want to handle things.

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Speaker 21: And I think he's done a pretty good job over there.

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Speaker 10: The Texans.

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Speaker 21: I mean the Texans are going to be a really

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Speaker 21: good team the next few years.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about their O line though.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, they're definitely skeptical there. But I I five confidence

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Speaker 21: of CJ. Stroud to be able to be a gamer.

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Speaker 21: And I mean I don't put him in the same

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Speaker 21: field as Joe Burrow, but like Joe Burrow and his

1520
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 21: own line hasn't been great for that long.

1521
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 10: And I mean Joe Burrow can make things happen.

1522
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 21: It's dangles can compete.

1523
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: It's interesting because as a GM, you really make waves

1524
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: when you do the sexy trades, and that's what he's

1525
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: been doing. So didn't do a lot of that here,

1526
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: but he had some good, good years here.

1527
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

1528
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: Third part is the question and Joe Cardona, I think

1529
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about this on PU before. I think

1530
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of let's let's move on to the future.

1531
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: Like it's a long.

1532
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 19: Snapper, Like I agree with a little bit of both.

1533
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: Like he hit some some questionable snaps. Yeah, I'm surprised

1534
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: it happened when it did. I thought he'd make it

1535
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: to training camp.

1536
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 20: Me too, And I just think he was kind of

1537
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 20: It's not like he was like a huge male guy

1538
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 20: or a huge Oh he was kind of a big

1539
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 20: bill guy.

1540
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 19: But I don't know.

1541
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 20: I just I thought he was good for like the culture,

1542
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 20: but I don't know.

1543
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 22: But you're trying to establish It's like, once you kind

1544
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 22: of make that change with da who's been like your

1545
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 22: stage blue guy for years now, like once that switch happens,

1546
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 22: Cardona justfently too.

1547
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 21: But once Cardona kind of as just a long snapper,

1548
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 21: it's hard to just like, you know, you could just

1549
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 21: go a different direction at any point realistically with that position.

1550
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 21: So I mean, I think it just kind of falls

1551
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 21: to like, you know, new new time, a new day

1552
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 21: in New England.

1553
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: So well, we'll see how Ashby does. Yeh Julian passing

1554
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: the torch new Julian and Bosba Julian as all right.

1555
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: Email from Bobby and Squantum. Just want to give a

1556
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: shout out to Paul for looking so slim these days.

1557
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: But somebody's got to give the guy a number for

1558
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: a good tailor. I saw him wearing a suit on

1559
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: All Access and he looked like David Byrne something.

1560
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 19: Anymore. You lost too much.

1561
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That is a good thing. Yeah,

1562
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: maybe a little, Alex, you should take the Pu crew shopping.

1563
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 19: Okay, So you just took the words out of my mouse.

1564
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 20: I have a very close family friend who for years

1565
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 20: was like a really high profile tailor down in Palm

1566
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 20: Beach on Worth Avenue. So those are of you who

1567
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 20: are familiar with that. It's big money at a place

1568
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 20: called Trillium. And I'm just like picturing Paul in a

1569
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 20: place like that where everything is like custom made, imported

1570
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 20: Kashmir from Europe. Like, can you imagine Paul going in

1571
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 20: there to.

1572
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: Get a I should do it before next year's draft.

1573
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 20: Also, send me to Palm Beach with Paul and we'll

1574
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 20: play some golf.

1575
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 19: We'll get him a new suit. I think it'd be great.

1576
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: Content had that place too. For Evan, we'll get a

1577
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: custom cues.

1578
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 21: It needs new cuss yea rot.

1579
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: A little, just a little all right? Subject subject? Do

1580
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: you read emails? That's what I'm doing right now, uh

1581
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: from Matt and Devin UK. I love you guys, but

1582
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: do you ever read emails from anyone other than the

1583
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: same few people. I've emailed a lot and never get read.

1584
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: Here you go, Devin, anyway, I know there will be

1585
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: some player comparisons going forward, such as Henderson and Luther Burden,

1586
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Williams and Jalen Nowell, et cetera. The one I'm more

1587
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: fascinated by is us and the Bears over the next

1588
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: few years. I love our free agency and draft, but

1589
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: I also love what the Bears have done in free

1590
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: agency and the draft. It'll be interesting to see how

1591
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: both teams compare with the young quarterbacks that we could

1592
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: have had, and that we could have had Ben Johnson

1593
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: but chose. Brabelin said.

1594
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 19: Comparison is the thief of joy.

1595
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: Dyke was not Fred's back of the envelope guy, but mine.

1596
01:08:53,439 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 23: It's not DK, all right, Jesus dKH Anyway, I emailed

1597
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 23: it and them and haven't laughed at me and said

1598
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 23: that DK may not even get drafted, haven't you?

1599
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: And I will come back to the subject. Oh my god,

1600
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: if you're right, I'll buy you lunch of them. Right,

1601
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: I'll get a formal apology in a PU T shirt.

1602
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: So let's get to the T shirt that's coming now,

1603
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: because I've been working on yes, tirelessly. It'll have to

1604
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: it's the it'll be. It'll be there by twenty twenty six.

1605
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: But the Bears and Patriots. Interesting because I.

1606
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: Love that conversation.

1607
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: Huh. I love that the Bears Patriots comparison time. Yeah yeah,

1608
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: I mean Williams.

1609
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 21: They've upgraded different or pretty much all the same positions,

1610
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 21: just different guys. So it's like, honestly, just who's which

1611
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 21: guys are going to be the ones they are going

1612
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 21: to perform, you know, like they have they won with

1613
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 21: the Dunes. They they have upgraded their whole line. They

1614
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 21: believes their guards. Yes that's fair enough, they do have

1615
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 21: the upside there, but you know, they have focused a

1616
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 21: lot on their offensive side of the wall, and I

1617
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 21: think the Pats uh a little bit more of the

1618
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 21: defensive side, but have upgraded their off too.

1619
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 10: So I mean, I'm excited to kind of see what happens.

1620
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: We'll see when they play again the two revamped teams.

1621
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 20: There one thing real quick on just how to get

1622
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 20: your emails read.

1623
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 19: Fred has touched on this a little bit on the show.

1624
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 20: But the subject of the email is important, but sometimes

1625
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 20: people bait him with like a really creative or like

1626
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 20: a clickbait headline. Right, So he said that the first

1627
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 20: few lines of your email are really important because it

1628
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,480
Speaker 20: shows up in the preview so got creative.

1629
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: There, there we go, all right. Kamel from Georgia one

1630
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: talking about Adam Vinitary had me thinking, how do you

1631
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: guys feel about Stephen Gostkowski. I mean it's a great kicker. Yeah,

1632
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: all the time you go from military to gostkalk spoilt

1633
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: And honestly, the only complaint I have was Gostkowski is

1634
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: when they push the Pats back. He missed in the

1635
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: AFC Championship against the Broncos. That I'd meant, think.

1636
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 19: Of another negative memory.

1637
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a good thing.

1638
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 21: Yeah, you don't like betweenskouscheme kick Folk, Nick Folk.

1639
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 4: Yeah that was a our trio.

1640
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, but I think Goskowski invent Terry were in a different.

1641
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm not if you're talking transition, yeah,

1642
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: for sure. Kickers here, yeah, talking consistency are good. But

1643
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: now I'll see what Bory got is little.

1644
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 19: I did my draft profile on him. Fired up?

1645
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: Okay, all right for a kicker, fired up, feeling missed.

1646
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 21: I think eight total kicksal case.

1647
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: A little game here, good afternoon. Knowing how much Paul

1648
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: enjoys these games, don't worry, we enjoy them too, and

1649
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: Fred despises them. And and emails in general. I've made

1650
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: a way too early over undergame for the Patriots for

1651
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: the upcoming season. All right, first one win, seven point

1652
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: five over. I'm optimistically going over.

1653
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 19: I'm going speaking into existence over.

1654
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, May passing touchdowns thirty and a half,

1655
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: thirty point five under. I'm going going under on that.

1656
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: Ma interceptions ten under.

1657
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 10: He had eleven last year.

1658
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 19: Under.

1659
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna improve, I'll say under. Actually i'll say over,

1660
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: but I think some will be like the booty one

1661
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: in Arizona where I'm gonna slips off the hand. No,

1662
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'll say over, but like eleven, like not

1663
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 1: by a lot so negative Digs receiving yards eight hundred

1664
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: over over, yeah over. Patriots haven't had a thousand receiver

1665
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: in a very long time. Yeah, all right, over, I

1666
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: like that Williams receiving yards over four hundred.

1667
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 17: Let it go.

1668
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'll say over for that too. I

1669
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: know I'll be optimistic and say I'm.

1670
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 10: Gonna say over for that.

1671
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy market.

1672
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 19: There's so much competition position.

1673
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: In Washington, all right. In college Gonzo interceptions three going over,

1674
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push over, give it to me, all right.

1675
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he gets three white SAT five No,

1676
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: no under under? Yeah under? All right, games scoring thirty

1677
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: plus two and a half, I'm going over. I'm gonna

1678
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: go under because we took the wins is over? Yeah,

1679
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: all right, I'm go going I think all right, game

1680
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: scoring lessons wins games, game scoring lessons twenty two under,

1681
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: game game scoring less than twenty five ten.

1682
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 21: Well, if I went under on the other one, I

1683
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 21: feel like, yeah, going on there, I have to go under.

1684
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: Yet, Okay, you over?

1685
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 19: Sorry, twenty seven points is such a sweet spot.

1686
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty five, I know, but that's always.

1687
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 19: Under thirty. I'm gonna say over.

1688
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: Okay, hope you enjoyed guys. Kyle from Pemberg.

1689
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 4: I like that.

1690
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: I think Paul would have enjoyed it too. But you know,

1691
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: we got to enjoy it, all right. Last one evan

1692
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: Star Wars George Lucas added number added episode numbers of

1693
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: the Star Wars film in nineteen eighty one. Or do

1694
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: you when you realized he'd likely have the money to

1695
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: make an entire story he envisioned. I could be wrong,

1696
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: but I think that means the titles are older than Evan. Regardless,

1697
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: Evans take about how some people say they're one, two

1698
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: and three feels as hilarious as how he hates watermelon

1699
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: because it's wet and can't stand Pam Beasley because she

1700
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: wanted to paint Robin in Alaska.

1701
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 10: I mean, I agree with the Pam take.

1702
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 19: I don't know Canas from the Office too.

1703
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the Office. You're a fake, it's overrated. Whatever, Okay,

1704
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: I think that's you can take. I mean, yeah, Alex

1705
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: star Wars, I.

1706
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 19: Have nothing to say.

1707
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 21: I'm gonna say I like Star Wars, but I the

1708
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 21: people that say that. So he say, Evan says it's one,

1709
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 21: two three, thanks, like the first three or the first three? Yeah,

1710
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 21: I disagree with that because the order of operations doesn't

1711
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 21: make sense.

1712
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: No, Phantom Menace is the first one. Yeah, okay, okay,

1713
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: all right, so we're all clear. Perfect Evan bad take.

1714
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 19: Yes for planning that up for me.

1715
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you for listening to p U extras.

1716
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: If your emails don't get read, Patriots from Filter to

1717
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: send them here and we'll read them after.

1718
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1719
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: History, come on, I don't.

1720
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 4: Felger still to this day.

1721
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: Felger is not the end all be all of conversation.

1722
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: There's other people saying.

1723
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: Stuff and a lot of people. The only one guy

1724
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 4: was all Brady. It's only when he said that while

1725
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 4: Brady was here with Bill who said that.

1726
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: Tons of people who on this show. I mean, do

1727
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: I have to go back to the eat.

1728
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 4: I've never said that, So you better not be insinuated.

1729
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 3: You're talking about emailers, callers.

1730
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: There's only one guy on whose voice matters in the town,

1731
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 4: and it's Michael. I mean the guy. He's the only

1732
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 4: guy even.

1733
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: Moves to need.

1734
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: Whip.

1735
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 4: That's a lot of hero worship you think. I think

1736
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: he's insane.

1737
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know you had such a love it.

1738
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 24: I couldn't possibly disagree with him more. It's got nothing

1739
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 24: to do with hero what he thinks. He thinks that

1740
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 24: they could win the division with Brian Oyer. I couldn't

1741
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 24: possibly disagree with There's nothing to do with hero worship.

1742
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 24: But don't tell me that Glenn wood Way. He has

1743
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 24: a pulse on anything that's going on. Yes, Bill, Yes, Bill,

1744
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 24: don't see what Bill?

1745
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 10: Oh?

1746
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 4: Should wives get together? Are we going to do this

1747
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: this weekend?

1748
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

1749
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 4: Okay? Bill?

1750
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: That's another great moment.

1751
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered A five five

1752
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot

1753
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: com as the email address. We had Jack Gibbons earlier.

1754
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: Like I said, every team should have a linebacker named Jack.

1755
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: Now we do. So that's good. Check that box. Do

1756
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: you like that?

1757
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 10: Evan?

1758
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 4: See they're not reruns if you've never heard them, But

1759
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 4: that's right. That forever and then gave me the pop

1760
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 4: that you wanted.

1761
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: I did that forever. All right, let's get to some

1762
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: of these emails. Jake in Melbourne, uh says, maybe it's

1763
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: just different expectations or maybe not getting caught up in

1764
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: the current state of mind of some fans, where teams

1765
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: with similar records as the Patriots last year are suddenly

1766
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: bookmarked as wins for this year. I feel like this

1767
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: year will or should be a year of exploration. I'm

1768
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: not sure about everyone else, but I have the vast

1769
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: majority of the roster where I don't know what they'll produce,

1770
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: good or bad. While excited and optimistic about the new regime,

1771
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of fans are seeing this

1772
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: upcoming season as a guaranteed major improvement on the last

1773
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: few seasons record wise, But I think expectations should be tempered.

1774
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: I agree with that email very much.

1775
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: But is there a difference between expectations being tempered and

1776
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: enthusiasm shouldn't be in.

1777
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 4: A good Yeah, And I would also say not to

1778
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 4: bog it into semantics like I often do. Is you

1779
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 4: know what would you consider great improvement? Because I am

1780
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 4: very confident that this team is going to be improved. Yeah,

1781
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: me too, I'm extremely confident of that. I don't know

1782
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 4: what that translates to number of wins. Evan and I

1783
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 4: were talking off air a little bit. You know, if

1784
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: they were to win, say eight games, I think based

1785
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 4: on the tenor of some fans, I think there'd be

1786
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 4: some disappointment. I'd be out of my mind excited, Like

1787
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 4: you doubled your win total in year one. I think

1788
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: that would be cause for a lot of celebration.

1789
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 10: They're gonna win more than four games, yes, but that's

1790
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 10: how I feel. How many you know, we'll see, but

1791
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 10: they're gonna win more than four games, and I think

1792
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 10: eight and nine. Like, you just want it to be

1793
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 10: headed in the right direction, you know, you want to

1794
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 10: see that arrow pointed upward and win some games that

1795
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 10: you wouldn't have won the last couple of years, maybe

1796
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 10: in styles that you wouldn't have won them in. Like

1797
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 10: can you score into the thirties and win a game?

1798
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 4: That's a good point too. How the wins come about,

1799
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: that's a good.

1800
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Speaker 10: Point, Like you know, going back to you know, obviously

1801
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 10: twenty one, twenty two, the twenty two season, Really they

1802
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 10: were eight and nine, weren't they? And but that team

1803
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 10: wasn't good, Like you could tell that that team couldn't score.

1804
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean, they only had one way to win, right, But.

1805
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 10: Is can this team win thirty five thirty one against Miami?

1806
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 3: Like?

1807
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 4: Can they or come from behind?

1808
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 10: Right? Can they come from behind? Can Drake may orchestrate

1809
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 10: a fourth quarter comeback or a game winning driver or two?

1810
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 10: Like if they start doing those types of things, even

1811
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 10: if the win total isn't crazy, like that's what you want,

1812
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 10: it's start to see.

1813
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit broken by the last couple

1814
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: of years and just not trusting myself. I've seen some

1815
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 3: stuff the.

1816
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: Shelter when he kept getting because I felt.

1817
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: Enthus I'm an enthusiastic guy. Anyway, It's not a high

1818
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 3: bar like and I think all NFL fans at this

1819
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: time year should have some enthusiasm for their for their team.

1820
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 3: But you know, was I too enthusiastic about terrible teams

1821
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 3: a couple of the last couple of years?

1822
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: You know?

1823
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 3: Am I am? I walking myself into the same kind

1824
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: of false belief. I really, really, really, truly in my

1825
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: heart believe that this team is going to be better,

1826
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 3: that they will be a solid football team. I don't

1827
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 3: know exactly what it'll mean, but I'm still questioning myself

1828
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 3: based on the last couple of years.

1829
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: And listen, even even if I didn't see them, I

1830
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: have to admit that last year the signs were there

1831
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 2: of maybe they're.

1832
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 9: Not brought back same team.

1833
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I was, you know, refusing to see them.

1834
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: And it's stupid always coming through of like Paul mentioned this,

1835
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 3: damn man, it's been right way too much since I

1836
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: started working here.

1837
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: So someone who you know, maybe did see some signs

1838
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: last year. Fishers in the damn or whatever you want

1839
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: to call them, What do you think this year? Do

1840
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: you think? Do you know?

1841
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not talking about abstract things that I don't know,

1842
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: Like last year when everyone told me the offensive line

1843
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: coach was going to be great because he had a

1844
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 4: different system. I don't know any of that, right, I

1845
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 4: can't control. I don't see just in terms of like

1846
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the players. Do I think it's

1847
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: better this year than last year? Yes, because I think

1848
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 4: they went out, as Alex just said, and replaced guys

1849
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 4: on the roster with players that I think at least

1850
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 4: are better. And this is why I never got on

1851
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 4: board with the over the top enthusiasm last year. At

1852
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 4: this time, you ran it back. You brought in a

1853
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback and otherwise ran it back. And I was

1854
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 4: excited about the rookie quarterback, but I didn't think it

1855
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 4: was going to translate to a lot of success because

1856
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 4: generally it doesn't work like Jayden Daniels and c J. Stroud.

1857
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 4: Generally it works like Drake May last year. You have

1858
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 4: struggles even when the guy exhibits a level a level

1859
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 4: of competence. And I would say that's what Drake May

1860
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 4: did last year. He looks like he knows what he's doing.

1861
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 4: But generally that doesn't translate to a dramatic spike in victory.

1862
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1863
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 10: I mean, I was probably more optimistic about bringing some

1864
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 10: of the guys they brought back. But as soon as

1865
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 10: we got into training camp, I mean, they couldn't block anybody.

1866
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 10: So the practices were pretty obvious right away that that

1867
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 10: Eagles practice.

1868
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 4: The Eagles practice was ground zero for that. That was

1869
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 4: it for me, right. I knew I was right when

1870
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 4: I saw that practice and they can't block.

1871
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 10: And he also just put it on top, you know,

1872
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 10: some of the coaching stuff that was going on too,

1873
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 10: and it just it didn't look right.

1874
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1875
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 4: So I can sit there and I can convince myself

1876
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 4: that all of these coaches that are coming in are

1877
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: better than that. But I might go out of training

1878
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: camp and watch them have a joint practice against either

1879
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: Washington or Minnesota, you know, those are the first two

1880
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 4: preseason games, and say, you know what, this coaching staff

1881
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 4: looks a lot like last year's coach staff.

1882
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1883
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: I think it's better. I think Doug Moron and Josh

1884
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 4: McDaniels will make the offense better, but you don't know

1885
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 4: until you see it.

1886
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Kyle and Pembroke. I have three hot takes and predictions

1887
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: in response to the schedule release that I want you

1888
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: guys to react to. I know it's too early for

1889
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: any of these, but why not One the Patriots will

1890
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: be four to zero in prime time games this year.

1891
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 10: They only have three, right, so that's false.

1892
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: Two Week eighteen versus Miami will be a win and

1893
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: get a get in game for both teams. In regards

1894
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: to the wild card making it a prime time game. Oh,

1895
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: he says a win and get in It won't be

1896
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: a win. It'll be a win and get in game.

1897
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 4: That's going to be flexed into and that's where he's

1898
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: getting the fourth prime time got Okay, Okay, I see

1899
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 4: it's not not far fetched, not far fetching that could happen.

1900
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Three, This easy schedule and he has easy in quotes,

1901
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: just so you know, will be harder than people think.

1902
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: The Panthers, Titans, and Giants all have the potential of

1903
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: being better this year and could be more difficult than expected.

1904
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: What do you think I agree with that?

1905
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 10: Sure, I would not pick those teams, but I think

1906
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 10: there's always a chance that teams are better.

1907
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 4: Than what you team that people just think is a

1908
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 4: layup in. I think if Kenny Pickett, as an example,

1909
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: just was what do you what do you? And Alex

1910
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 4: call it net neutral? If Kenny Pickett was just net neutral.

1911
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: I think that team could be decent, like a seven

1912
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 4: to eight nine win team as opposed to a three

1913
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: or four win team, and that could be a tougher

1914
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 4: game than you think. I'm kind of with Evan on

1915
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 4: the others. I don't really see it. With Carolina or

1916
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: Tennis New Orleans I think is dreadfully bad.

1917
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 10: Zero. The league thinks they're dreadfully YEA.

1918
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: Kamel from Georgia writes in one what are your thoughts

1919
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: about people wanting an NFL draft.

1920
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 4: Lottery seeing that a lot lately that's a thing.

1921
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Well, my thing is other than the first round. You

1922
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 2: keep it the same, but the first round is a

1923
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: complete lottery, all teams involved, thirty two teams.

1924
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 4: Let's let's Christmas Fret's theory of how the Patriots could

1925
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 4: get the first overall pick after winning.

1926
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: And then and then the rest of the rounds go

1927
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: back to record.

1928
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 10: So the reason why people are pushing for this is

1929
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 10: because of the of the television stuff like it's a

1930
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 10: The NBA draft lottery does decent numbers, so an NFL

1931
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 10: draft lottery will do.

1932
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 4: The NHL lottery got a little tracksh not like the

1933
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 4: na will do huge numbers.

1934
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 10: So like people like Adam Scheff are going on ESPN

1935
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 10: and vouching for an NFL draft lottery. He's looking at

1936
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 10: his his wallet and saying, this would be a great

1937
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 10: television event for us to do this. The NFL doesn't

1938
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 10: need a lottery, Like the NFL doesn't have a tanking issue.

1939
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 10: There's just teams that aren't very good. That doesn't mean

1940
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 10: they're tanking. Like the Patriots last year had all the

1941
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 10: reason in the world to tank. In the last week

1942
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 10: of the season, they won the damn game. So like,

1943
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 10: how is that that's not tanking?

1944
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 4: They don't play enough games to really tank, right.

1945
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 10: Like the NBA has a tanking problem. They have teams

1946
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 10: like Utah who have for three years now, I've purposely

1947
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 10: tried to lose games like that.

1948
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: That's but what about the purgatory issue, Like if you

1949
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: are a middling team year after year, it's easy to

1950
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 2: stay middling because you never really get a shot at

1951
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: that that great player.

1952
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 9: I don't think it's happened this year.

1953
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 6: I mean, Dallas is gonna get Cooper Flag after trading Luka,

1954
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 6: but you know, and.

1955
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 10: They had a one eleventh best chance to get it.

1956
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think purgatory is a problem in the NFL.

1957
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 4: It can be a problem in the winter leagues. Yes,

1958
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 4: I think taking it.

1959
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 10: As a problem in the NBA, which is what the

1960
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 10: lottery is for. But like the thing with the tanking

1961
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 10: is is like, if you're Utah, how else are you

1962
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 10: going to get better? Besides getting a top draft pick.

1963
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 10: You're not drawing any free agents, You're not pulling off

1964
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 10: any trades. Like, so the only way that a team

1965
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 10: like Utah gets better is by getting Cooper Flag, Like

1966
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 10: that's the only way they can do it. That's not

1967
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 10: the case in the NFL. At the end of you

1968
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 10: can build a roster in different ways in the n

1969
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 10: the field than you can in the NBA. And I

1970
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 10: just I don't think it's a big issue.

1971
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 4: I agree, I don't think. I think there's a lot

1972
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 4: of middling teams that have plenty of ways to get talent,

1973
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 4: like you, I mean, everybody can get free agents, and

1974
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 4: everybody can draft good players. In the first round. In

1975
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: the NBA, there's like three good players, so the idea

1976
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: is drafted.

1977
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 6: And aside from the quarterback and position in football like

1978
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 6: basketball is so different, where one player really can the

1979
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 6: entire dynamic of a team football.

1980
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: There's just so many quarters.

1981
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 9: That's why, that's why I preface it.

1982
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: I like it, Fred I, I'm maybe on the opposite side.

1983
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't. I mean, I agree with

1984
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: everything Evan saying. I just think it takes that whole

1985
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: element out of it. And how many teams are always

1986
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 3: picking in the top ten, like they're always up there.

1987
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 2: And I'm sick of the team in the top ten

1988
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 2: and then they don't get better, but.

1989
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 10: They're only going to be They're not going to do

1990
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 10: a thirty two teams.

1991
01:26:53,640 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: No, just because no one does. It doesn't NBA does

1992
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: top ten.

1993
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 4: Teams that don't make the NHL. I believe it's not

1994
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 4: everybody that doesn't.

1995
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: Make the PA.

1996
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: I'd be on board with that. I don't know if

1997
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: I could get on board with the I don't hate.

1998
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 4: The idea of a lottery. I wouldn't say no, But

1999
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: I agree with Evan if that if they do it,

2000
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: it's only because of it's not it's not to solve

2001
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 4: a problem because they want more money problem, and that's

2002
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 4: what And I would argue that it hasn't really worked,

2003
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 4: to be honest, But I do agree with you. It

2004
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 4: was all about I think there was a year that Houston.

2005
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 4: I think there was like a tanking to miss the playoffs.

2006
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean teams really bad like Dallas, like probably

2007
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 10: could have pushed at the end of the season to

2008
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 10: be in the play in and they purposely didn't.

2009
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 4: They weren't in the plan.

2010
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 10: No, I mean no, I don't think so well they

2011
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 10: they might have been, but they they got into this

2012
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 10: position on purpose, like they obviously they trade Luca, but

2013
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 10: like they got.

2014
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: Into the position after that trade too, and.

2015
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 10: They they pulled the plug on the season to get

2016
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 10: into the lottery, and they got lucky. They the ping

2017
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 10: pong balls fell their way.

2018
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: Ultimately lucky too. Does Cam Williams going to the Broncos

2019
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: mean anything for the Patriots?

2020
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to hire a new guy, But I

2021
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 3: think that's a loss.

2022
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 4: I think that he's a guy that was uh well

2023
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: thought of, and I think he did a good job.

2024
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 4: I think people considered him very competent at his job,

2025
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 4: got a promotion. Now, we liked him obviously because we

2026
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 4: had him on the you know, like the draft shows.

2027
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 4: We had some good interaction with him. But I think

2028
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 4: he's well and I think I.

2029
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: Think, you know, everybody's looking like where am I going

2030
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: to be in two three years? And I think here,

2031
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: you know now that with Rabel in, but Elliott's not

2032
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 2: going anywhere. He brought rabel brought with him, you know.

2033
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: So plus it's a promotion for him, like yeah, so

2034
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: he he wants to go to rise up there.

2035
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 4: They had two guys just leave higher ups under is

2036
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: it Patent or Peyton? How do you pronounce Patton? George Patten?

2037
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, but they I mean, no disrespect to camp Williams,

2038
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 10: so I liked and got to know a little bit

2039
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 10: is a great guy. I mean he was not making

2040
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 10: any real decisions here.

2041
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 4: No, right, you know that wasn't That's what I'm saying.

2042
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 4: It's a promotion, Yeah, because he's going to be in

2043
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 4: a decision. Well he's going to have input more I

2044
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 4: think with Denver than he did. Yeah.

2045
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just remember talking to you know, Elliott at

2046
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 10: the combine and like when they had like a will

2047
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 10: Campbell Travis Hunter level prospect that Macro was the one

2048
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 10: that was actually writing the scouting reports for those players

2049
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 10: for the Patriots, not not cam So like they like

2050
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 10: that those types of high level decisions were were out

2051
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 10: of his hands.

2052
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: And finally, with the schedule coming out, what games times

2053
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: do you like more? The one four, twenty five or

2054
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: prime time one o'clock.

2055
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 4: We're all, yeah, that's my favorite part of the schedule.

2056
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 4: It was all these one o'clock games.

2057
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam and Saint Catharine's am I crazy for thinking

2058
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: that we could upset the Ravens. Maybe I'm re I'm

2059
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: ring things incorrectly, but I believe Rabels Titans were a

2060
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: constant pain in the behind for the Ravens. And no

2061
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: one knows Derek Henry's strengths and weakness is better than him.

2062
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,879
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have some surprises losses too, and ultimately

2063
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: I think will be somewhere in the hunt, whether that's

2064
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 2: wild Carter just missing the cut.

2065
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: So they beat them in the playoffs right when they

2066
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 4: went to the AFC Championship game. Lamar's rookie year, right,

2067
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 4: not his rookie year, but that first year that he

2068
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 4: was an MVP, his first MVP BEF the Titans.

2069
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 10: I thought it was that rookie season, but maybe that

2070
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 10: was the Chargers that beat him.

2071
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Chargers beat him in the playoffs. Yeah, but again,

2072
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 4: an AFC Championship caliber roster gave Lamar Jackson trouble not

2073
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 4: a four and thirteen team. But yeah, I mean again,

2074
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 4: I don't tell you that upsets don't happen. Last year,

2075
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: I believe that the Ravens lost like four or five games.

2076
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 4: They lost to the Raiders, they lost to someone else

2077
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 4: that was really bad and I can't remember now remember,

2078
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 4: but good teams lose to bad teams. Cincinnati lost to

2079
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 4: the Patriots last year ultimately knocked them out of the playoffs.

2080
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 4: They would have been in the playoffs with ten wins

2081
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 4: they had they won that opening game. So upsets happened.

2082
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I five Pats five hundred is the hotline. Let's

2083
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 2: go to Randy in Providence. What's up, Randy?

2084
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 25: Hey, guys, how's it growing at a good So I'm

2085
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 25: one of the more optimistic guys I guess about the

2086
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 25: Patriots there. I think eight to ten wins is perfectly

2087
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 25: reasonable to built for anyway.

2088
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 11: It may do not expect, but I do.

2089
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 26: Think like two of the big takeaways that I had

2090
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 26: from the schedule coming out.

2091
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 25: Last night is that Game one is the Raiders, right,

2092
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 25: They're coming here.

2093
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 26: And we expect that offense to kind of be built.

2094
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 25: Around the Rush a lot, and particularly around a rookie

2095
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 25: running back who I looked up in his game log.

2096
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 25: He's only played once in the Eastern time. That was

2097
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 25: last year with a four PM.

2098
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 4: Can we please retire that?

2099
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 10: No, No, it's a thing, not a thing. Ten a

2100
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 10: m body clock.

2101
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 4: The whole West coast coming east is not a thing anymore.

2102
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 4: It's a thing like Seattle last last year and week.

2103
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 10: You stick to your take.

2104
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 4: Oh, I've heard this this take about twelve times today.

2105
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm done with.

2106
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 25: But I think a rookie running back making his first

2107
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 25: trip to the East coast.

2108
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 4: For early year not going to Mars.

2109
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 25: Be a little grown up.

2110
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 26: But then the second game that I took a look

2111
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 26: at and I liked was that Cincinnati Bengals game. I

2112
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 26: think that's a game that they could potentially see. And

2113
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 26: I think that's because you're coming off ten days Rush.

2114
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 4: I think I heard that guy this morning.

2115
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 25: Fingers crossed a Jets home win. But the Bengals have

2116
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 25: is why was before us and the Ravens four days

2117
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 25: after us? And I think they could be looking through us.

2118
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 4: Okay, could could be so if all the other teams

2119
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 4: stink and roll over. The Patriots will have a great

2120
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,839
Speaker 4: year print out on a slogan.

2121
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: Randy, I like it. I'm with you. Eight to ten

2122
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 2: is completely rare.

2123
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, but Ashton genty will

2124
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: not know how to run in the Eastern time zone.

2125
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 4: It's a ten a m.

2126
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 10: Bodyclock game, Paul.

2127
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 4: Correct, He's never been in the East coast, so he's

2128
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: gonna be like, that's not what I'm saying. It's not

2129
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 4: like the turf, and I hope the blue. I hope

2130
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 4: that just a green turf.

2131
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 10: And then I hope that they pulled the fire alarm

2132
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 10: at the hotel at like three o'clock in the morning.

2133
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen.

2134
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna win.

2135
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 10: No, you take out all the things you need and

2136
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 10: they pull that fire alarm.

2137
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 3: If you were playing at Mars, Paul, you would want

2138
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 3: Askton gent.

2139
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 4: Cleveland's Baltimore also lost in Cleveland last.

2140
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,839
Speaker 2: Year, loss to the Patriots.

2141
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 10: That's a division game.

2142
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 4: They're gonna lose again this year because they're going to

2143
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 4: be looking ahead to the next game.

2144
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: That's right, right.

2145
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 4: I got a question.

2146
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 3: Is there a difference between like an upset and a

2147
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 3: game that and a win that actually means something like

2148
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: sometimes you're like, you catch a team at the right time. No,

2149
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't prove an you think that.

2150
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 4: Can be the same thing last year the low But

2151
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,480
Speaker 4: that's not really and that was situational, right, Like, but Cincinnati,

2152
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 4: they upset Cincinnati, Why didn't that mean anything?

2153
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 3: Because well, for them, ultimately, they weren't a team that

2154
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: could be They weren't a team on that level of Cincinnati.

2155
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 2: They were a tier and it turns out wasn't that great.

2156
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 4: But an upset, that's true. But an upset is an upset.

2157
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 4: But that means the better team talent wise lost to

2158
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 4: the inferior team. Whether that means that the inferior team

2159
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 4: is better than we thought, it's still meant something. They

2160
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 4: still beat a team that was better than them.

2161
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, but fair enough.

2162
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 2: No, but I hear what you're saying to Mike, Like,

2163
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 2: in hindsight, you look back and go, you know, at

2164
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: the time, we thought it was a big upset, but

2165
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: it really wasn't.

2166
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 4: Wasn't that good or you were a lot better?

2167
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Right?

2168
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was marketably better than the Patriots.

2169
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 4: Of course, that was as big en upset as you

2170
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 4: can get.

2171
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but That's why when like people took it

2172
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 3: looking like Baltimore and like we could upset them. Well, yeah,

2173
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 3: like you're saying that maybe Lamar has a terrible game

2174
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: and it's in the wind, or you know, there's a monsoon,

2175
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: or the Patriots are just a better football team than

2176
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 3: the Ravens. Like there's a big difference between that at No.

2177
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 4: I got your question.

2178
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: A lot of times when people call in and say it,

2179
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 3: they're saying more like they're gonna be the better team

2180
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 3: than the Ravens that night, rather than I think everything's

2181
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: gonna line up for them in week seventeen and they're

2182
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 3: gonna be able to be the race.

2183
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 4: So when the pink upsets happened, I think sometimes the

2184
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 4: better team doesn't win the game. Now, does it always

2185
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 4: mean something in the long term, nor, to answer your question,

2186
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 4: sometimes it does. But like Fred said, what if the

2187
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 4: Patriots are like ten and four going into that game,

2188
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 4: I still would think Baltimore is better than them and

2189
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 4: they could upset them, and it would mean plenty. It

2190
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 4: would mean that you're really good too.

2191
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: And no.

2192
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 2: One when the Patriots were fourteen point underdogs to the Rams,

2193
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: huge upset, but in hindsight, were the Patriots that were

2194
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 2: they underrated?

2195
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,839
Speaker 3: I think maybe a little day we knew it was real.

2196
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: You know, were they better than we? You know, people

2197
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: were giving them credit for it. Should it have been fourteen?

2198
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Should have been more like six?

2199
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2200
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 3: I mean maybe this is a bibie question, but like

2201
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 3: to have the Patriots had a meaningful win over the

2202
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: last two years, like legitimately.

2203
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 10: I think the game that they beat Buffalo here in

2204
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 10: twenty I don't know, I know, I know, I.

2205
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 2: Know, I think I think there can't be any meaningful

2206
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: wins unless you end up in the playoffs.

2207
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 10: Right at the time, that game, I think felt like

2208
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 10: a meaningful game. They hadn't beaten Josh Allen and really

2209
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 10: solved that problem. Beat it beat a good team. It

2210
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 10: was a come from behind, like fourth quarter.

2211
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 4: It wasn't because you couldn't throw the ball because of

2212
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 4: the weather.

2213
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 10: Now granted it was like one screen that he took

2214
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 10: like forty yards to drive.

2215
01:36:54,680 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you say it a game, what meaning.

2216
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 10: I mean like just throwing that out.

2217
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: But if you say game has a meaning, it was

2218
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: a meaningful win.

2219
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 4: Pop, what is the meaning? What was what?

2220
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 10: It turned out not to be anything?

2221
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:13,919
Speaker 2: But in the moment, it wasn't meaningful.

2222
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: Well, in hindsight it.

2223
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 10: Was, but in the moment, it felt like that was

2224
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 10: the one thing they had.

2225
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 2: Everyone is great in the moment, but like, no, this

2226
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: you had to take the question in the spirit.

2227
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 10: That it was me that that the game last year

2228
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 10: in Cincinnati was not great in the moment. Even Gerard

2229
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 10: knew that it.

2230
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 2: Wasn't great in the moment.

2231
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 10: Are you kidding, room, Yeah, it felt like they won

2232
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl one game.

2233
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: It was great in the moments.

2234
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 4: Okay, but even the coach that the way they played

2235
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 4: was so obviously but no, but it was the way

2236
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 4: they had to play to win, and they did it.

2237
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 4: But it required the other team pooping all over it.

2238
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: They took advantage of bad football.

2239
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 10: When when the when I the next day that was

2240
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 10: even sat himself that that game was of course, I

2241
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 10: would say that the Buffalo game from two years ago

2242
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 10: that Evan's talking about was a lot more.

2243
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 4: Sure. It wasn't just because Buffalo didn't bring it that day.

2244
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 4: The Patriots played well. They did, and they stuck around,

2245
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 4: and they hung around, they hung around, and they stole.

2246
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't the game from which the Patriots then got better.

2247
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 10: But you know it WASNTI game.

2248
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Right, so at the end of the day, but there

2249
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: was two things he was talking about in the moment.

2250
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: It was a great win, it didn't turn out to

2251
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 2: be a meaningful win. It did both to be true.

2252
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 4: Can you give me an example of a meaningful win?

2253
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: I have one.

2254
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I have one.

2255
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 3: You know, the season finale last year it was a

2256
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 3: meaningful win because it.

2257
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 4: Mean that's a semantic argument that I be prue. But

2258
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 4: can you honestly, because I think Fred the only thing

2259
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 4: the way you can have a meaningful win is if

2260
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 4: it ends up in the Super Bowl winning season or

2261
01:38:58,840 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 4: like you get.

2262
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 10: Maybe when they got in Cincinnati last year Week one,

2263
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 10: it was it was a nice win for drawd and

2264
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 10: for the regime and all that kind of stuff to

2265
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 10: get the win week one. But everybody came out of

2266
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 10: that game and said, they're never winning a football game

2267
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 10: like that ever again. Even the coach said it that

2268
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 10: they weren't gonna win it. When they beat Buffalo a

2269
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 10: couple of years ago, the conversation around that game was

2270
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 10: it could go one of two ways. This could either

2271
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 10: be a jumping off point or it was, you know,

2272
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 10: a blip.

2273
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: It was right, And if it was a jumping off,

2274
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 2: then it would have become a meaningful game. But it wasn't.

2275
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't a meaningful game, but the time, in the moment,

2276
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: it was a great win.

2277
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 4: I think you can win games that don't ultimately lead

2278
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 4: to tremendous success that are meaningful. Sure, you know, I

2279
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 4: can't even think of one off the top of my

2280
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 4: head now, but I think.

2281
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 3: Forrest two years, it's hard to have eight.

2282
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 4: Because I don't think they've had I don't think they've

2283
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 4: had any meaningful I think the closest to a meaningful

2284
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 4: win is that Buffalo again, right, It has to mean something,

2285
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 4: But that meant something that was a good win.

2286
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: But a meaningful game in twenty twenty three would have

2287
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 3: been faith restored in Belichick and the system and that

2288
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 3: the guys are on board, because it felt like that was.

2289
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: They had a lot of meaningful losses.

2290
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: It's hard to find it last year. I mean, then,

2291
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: I think you're right to point to that, since when

2292
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 3: it was just a proof that they could win a game,

2293
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 3: regardless of how it looked. But ultimately, in the grand

2294
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 3: scheme of things, it wasn't mean. It wasn't, you know,

2295
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 3: I think it goes back to what Fred said, like,

2296
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: I'm just happy I've gotten us onto a weird puse sman.

2297
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 4: No, I like it. I like it, but I like

2298
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 4: sort of looking at things from different levels.

2299
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I mean. The root of it, though,

2300
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 3: is when people call in and they say, like, I

2301
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 3: think the Patriots could beat the Ravens, Like, of course

2302
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 3: they could win any single one of these games.

2303
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 4: Everybody tells you they can't.

2304
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 2: The meaningful win right after the Patriots aren't good anymore.

2305
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: They came and they beat the Bengals. That was a

2306
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 2: meaningful win.

2307
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 4: So but that was only because they went on to

2308
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. According to you, Yeah, it meant

2309
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 4: that they To me, you get backed into a court.

2310
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 4: I think I think the Celtics winning last night was

2311
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 4: a meaningful win even if they lose tomorrow night, okay,

2312
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 4: because I think that they sort of had two choices.

2313
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 4: You can tucktail and home and feel sorry for yourself. Well,

2314
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 4: you can stand up and be a championship caliber team

2315
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 4: and do what you're supposed to do to an inferior

2316
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 4: opponent at home.

2317
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

2318
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 4: I think this meaning in that whether it leads to

2319
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 4: a comeback from three to one happen to agree with you, like,

2320
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't think what happens after a should impact whether

2321
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 4: or not you're thinking.

2322
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 10: For Celtics fans, and I needed that game.

2323
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: I needed it.

2324
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Meaning to you.

2325
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 10: I was sitting there like first quarter second for me,

2326
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 10: I couldn't get myself.

2327
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 4: If they tomorrow night, I'll feel better than I would

2328
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 4: have if they lost last night. Sure, and I know

2329
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 4: that sounds silly.

2330
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. At least I'll feel better.

2331
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I feel better that meaning it had meaning.

2332
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 4: I'll continue to cross sports. Mike, you don't remember this.

2333
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 4: Probably no one else will because no one else cares.

2334
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 4: The very beginning of the sort of rebirth of the Bruins, like, oh,

2335
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 4: eight ish, they had a seven game first round series

2336
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 4: with Montreal. They won a game at home in game six,

2337
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 4: and then they ended up losing a game seven. I

2338
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 4: think that was sort of the rebirth of Bruins hockey.

2339
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 4: That game had I think a lot of meaning. Even

2340
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 4: though they lost the next game, we're out of the playoffs.

2341
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 4: And then it took them what three or four more

2342
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 4: years to get the cup. But I want to say

2343
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 4: eight seven eight, maybe a little bit it was like

2344
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 4: early Chara bergeron that kind of crew.

2345
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. How close were the moral victory conversation

2346
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 3: right now? Like we're like the like the diagram of

2347
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 3: like moral victories or.

2348
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 4: When you lose, right, that's a luxury. Is a loss

2349
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: the only moral victory that I'm willing to even contemplate.

2350
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 4: Fred note will notice when they lost to the Rams

2351
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 4: in the two thousand and one season, they could compete

2352
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,879
Speaker 4: regular season. I think they learned a lot about themselves.

2353
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 3: Well, I want to throw more one game out there.

2354
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 3: Would you say when the Patriots Tom Brady went down

2355
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 3: in Week one of two thousand and eight and then

2356
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 3: they beat the Jets the next week, that was a

2357
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 3: comp I used for last night.

2358
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 4: So I will called that a meaningful win. I mean

2359
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 4: a game that they did make the playoffs. Yeah, series

2360
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 4: a season they didn't make the playoffs, But I do

2361
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,799
Speaker 4: think that was a meaningful showed everybody, It showed everybody

2362
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 4: would not the.

2363
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 3: Jets Tom Brady.

2364
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 4: We still won the Jets. We can win games.

2365
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 10: Really, we can't go ahead because that's just like sort

2366
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 10: of how I feel right now about the Celtics is like,

2367
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 10: if they keep this team together just minus Jason Tatum,

2368
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 10: like they won't stink. They're not they're not They're not

2369
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 10: the favorites to win the title anymore, but like they'll

2370
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 10: have a season next year, Whereas like Tuesday, I was

2371
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 10: like the world is ending and I'm gonna jump off

2372
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 10: a bridge. Like no, but I feel like Facilitation maybe

2373
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 10: win fifty games next year.

2374
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 19: You pull them off the ledge.

2375
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 4: Right. This is the most aligned I've ever been with Evan.

2376
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 4: In the show I Did It Buffalo two years ago,

2377
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 4: Celtics talks were like aligned completely.

2378
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: Boston Cream's on the hotline. What's up, Boston?

2379
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 4: I ran Iraq coming together, Boston Cream?

2380
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 26: Hey, what's up?

2381
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 4: Play?

2382
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 11: I got a quick game. It's called two or none.

2383
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 27: For the twenty twenty fives, two or none, So you

2384
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 27: have to pick either two or none. Seven hundred yard receivers, two.

2385
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 11: Six hundred yard rosters.

2386
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 4: One one zero.

2387
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 3: It's two or non. Guys, come on zero.

2388
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 2: Two or zero makes it tougher.

2389
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 4: Two, Yeah, I gotta say two.

2390
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: Oh two.

2391
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, That'll go none on that one. For interception guys,

2392
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go none on that one.

2393
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 2: None, yeah, two no.

2394
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 10: Faith in Carlton Davis.

2395
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 25: Venerian Low starts oh.

2396
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 10: Low starts, no disrespect, but hopefully zero none.

2397
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say none.

2398
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 15: Overtime games.

2399
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 4: Two none none.

2400
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 11: Wins against twenty twenty four playoff teams.

2401
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 27: They play five games.

2402
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 28: Two, so that would be Buffalo, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Man, Tampa,

2403
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 28: Tampa Bay two none.

2404
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:28,440
Speaker 27: Eric Scalabino girlfriend none seven all right, guys, oiler.

2405
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Boston Cream.

2406
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 28: Scal still catching straight, not bart Scale, still scal bart

2407
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 28: on the market?

2408
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Does he care?

2409
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 10: We're working on it. So we're working on it, you know,

2410
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 10: like some people.

2411
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 2: Just don't care. Like he's married to the game, whatever dating.

2412
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 9: Show for him.

2413
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 3: That that could be the schedule I get.

2414
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 9: I'm sure Bacherette interested in Alex Bart right into the show.

2415
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 10: It's a long list, right, It's gonna be a.

2416
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 3: Girl who loves college.

2417
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't liking this fixing up Alex. Can we fix

2418
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 4: up Alex?

2419
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 10: I've been trying for five years to know.

2420
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 4: But you don't have the tools our Alex probably have more.

2421
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 10: That's fair.

2422
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 3: There's I don't want to speak for Alex. I only

2423
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: speak for my wife. But there's nothing girls like better

2424
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 3: than setting people up like it is like they got

2425
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 3: a friend. Oh my god, I know, just the hate.

2426
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 3: They love it. They love it, and I'm like, wage

2427
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 3: over there, did you get really you had a set up?

2428
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 3: Well sometimes it works for sure, but they loved his

2429
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 3: sister A lot of tries, a lot of tries.

2430
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 4: I know, I had to imagine that this was off

2431
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:34,440
Speaker 4: the market.

2432
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 3: For well, I know, I saw your problem, pot, I

2433
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 3: like blue suit powder that Yeah, that was that your

2434
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 3: like junior promise.

2435
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't have I've lost I've lost powder, blue

2436
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 4: suit in my trou point Miami vice all white. That

2437
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 4: was my senior problem. I roue with a regular black.

2438
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 4: I had the regular black dynasty Junior.

2439
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 3: Did you get the hat with the chain?

2440
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 4: No hat? No one?

2441
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 10: Prom one, prom one, you have no junior problems. It's

2442
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 10: a harbor cruise, Everett, pimp Perila junior Harbor cruise.

2443
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 3: Of the year.

2444
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: All right, Michael writes in forgive me, Father Fred, for

2445
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 2: I have sinned. But Evan is a hypocrite. The second

2446
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 2: Paul and Duce start talking about Jaws or you talk

2447
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 2: about speed, Queen, Evan shimes in, can we get back

2448
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 2: to football? But if the Celtics come up, He's more

2449
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: than happy to spend an hour on not football. You

2450
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: may want to consider a Celtics jar where Evan will

2451
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:43,759
Speaker 2: have to put a dollar in each time he talks

2452
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: about Celtics on a football show, or maybe you deduct

2453
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 2: a minute each time from his all twenty two allowance,

2454
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 2: just an idea.

2455
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 10: Well, I think an hour is a little bit of

2456
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 10: an exaggeration, maybe, like you know, five to ten minutes

2457
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 10: a show, and I think that's the reasonable hour.

2458
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you would you would continue to talk if

2459
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: we you know, right?

2460
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sorry, but on May fifteenth, I think

2461
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 10: doing more on the Celtics, he's far more interesting than.

2462
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 2: If this was January. You do it. Speaking of hypocrits, No,

2463
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: do you think Bill is on a path of tarnishing

2464
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 2: his patriots legacy where while he'll get in, he won't

2465
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 2: have the same pomp and circumstance as Brady.

2466
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he was ever going to have the

2467
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 4: same pomp and circumstances Brady.

2468
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd want it.

2469
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 4: But yes, the short answer to that question, I would say, yes,

2470
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 4: he's I think really sort of walking that line of tarnishing.

2471
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 2: His I mean, we've had a lot of callers or

2472
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 2: email or say, hell, come, you guys don't talk about

2473
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 2: what's going on with him? Like looking at the end

2474
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: of the day, you know who loses out on all

2475
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 2: this we do? Like why can't we have anything nice?

2476
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 1: You know?

2477
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 19: Like also, how are people just sick of that?

2478
01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 10: I just don't know, like to the Patriots and like

2479
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 10: he's doing this on somebody else's dime, Like this has

2480
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 10: nothing to do with the Patriots. Like the Falcons like

2481
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 10: put it in like their schedule release video as like

2482
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 10: a jab at the Patriots. That really yeah, And I

2483
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 10: just didn't get that. I was, like, he's employed by

2484
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 10: North Carolina Football. He hasn't been the Patriots coaching three years.

2485
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:18,560
Speaker 4: Like I don't really I think I might know you

2486
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 4: an apology? You know how you have all these feuds

2487
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 4: with all the teams? Is this where they like sort

2488
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 4: of originate? Is these scheduled videos? And that's why I

2489
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 4: don't ever know.

2490
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:28,799
Speaker 2: What they're talking.

2491
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: He explained his gripes. It is it just because this

2492
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 4: like I would have never known that the Falcons took

2493
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 4: a shot at Belichick in the Patriots in that video.

2494
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care what these what people saying this schedule.

2495
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 10: V I don't care. I just want the joke to

2496
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 10: be funny, like that has nothing like Jordan Hudson has

2497
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 10: nothing to do with the New England Patriots.

2498
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 4: Like she's.

2499
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 3: She's been rattling the Falcon's cage with some.

2500
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 4: Has she really she did them?

2501
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, so that might be what it's about than anything.

2502
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: They've They've taken plenty of shots at the Falcons, you know,

2503
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: turn about his fair play? Yeah, David, and d C

2504
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: writes in I have learned so much from you all

2505
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 2: this offseason. One Fred goes over the top rather than

2506
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 2: through the door. I don't know.

2507
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 4: No, don't you go through the door? I go over

2508
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 4: the top.

2509
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two Paul has a hot sister. Three Mike likes

2510
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 2: the Celtics as much as he likes Tom Brady. That's

2511
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: not much. Four Alex likes dudes and backwards caps. Evan.

2512
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: He still thinks he knows everything about football, and probably does,

2513
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 2: but very little about anything else. Six I miss Andy's

2514
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 2: advice about swamp ass. Seven it took a year, but

2515
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 2: the silos finally came down and there appears to be

2516
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 2: some collaboration. What does that mean?

2517
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 4: Football?

2518
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Football? Okay? And eight The Pope has a degree in mathematics.

2519
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 2: He not only knows sin, he knows cozy O coast sign.

2520
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

2521
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 3: That's a master? Is he like?

2522
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 4: It's like trigonometry sign?

2523
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2524
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Okays that that's that wasn't funny?

2525
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 3: Wow, especially the part about me?

2526
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 25: How dare you.

2527
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 2: By all this West Coast East coast? Paul spiing Frezo says,

2528
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Paul doesn't seem to understand that the grass grows and

2529
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 2: reverse on the East Coast. This creates an inseparable obstacle

2530
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 2: and superabol I don't know if that's the way he

2531
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 2: did play West Coast.

2532
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 4: That's a big transition. He's gonna have to learn how

2533
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: to play on green Well.

2534
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 10: To be fair, though, he used to wear the blue

2535
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 10: jersey on the blue grass and it was hard to

2536
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 10: see him. So maybe now I'll be easier to see

2537
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 10: him and it makes easier to tackle. We gotta think

2538
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 10: of that.

2539
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 3: We've got a hybrid here. It's a California sense of mea.

2540
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:49,879
Speaker 3: The great thing about.

2541
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 10: Eastern Washington did the same thing.

2542
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 4: You can smoke it right and what happens Jesus, Jesus,

2543
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: Jared and Newburyport.

2544
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 2: No one cares about pu degenerate callers in their poopy

2545
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 2: ass phone lines, never mind what they look like. I

2546
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 2: heard you guys are gonna resurrect this idea.

2547
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, I was waiting for like a lull. We

2548
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 6: had the draft, we had the schedule, so it's gonna

2549
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 6: come soon.

2550
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: So I got But are you getting the emails that

2551
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 2: have coming in?

2552
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2553
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 9: OK, unless you've gotten any reason that you haven't.

2554
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 2: Well, I noticed some came in after the last show.

2555
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 2: So did you get those? How were you going to

2556
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: get those?

2557
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 4: Going to ask you forward them to me?

2558
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 9: Unprompted?

2559
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 2: Instead of some bs guessing game, I vote for a

2560
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: conversation between Dan Shaughnessy played by Fred, Pete Carroll played

2561
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: by Paul, and Jackie Mason played by Fred again regarding

2562
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 2: which current NFL players could excel in the NBA.

2563
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 10: Not okay, but.

2564
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 4: They all think they could. They all think they could.

2565
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 10: The answer is zero.

2566
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Let's see. Castillo writes in longtime listener, first time emailer.

2567
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh it's Edwin in Texas. Oh Hey, Edwin, how you doing?

2568
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say hello and thank everyone for

2569
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: the great work you guys put in. But the call

2570
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 2: from Christian in La, Oh my god, I really can't

2571
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 2: believe fans want to lose for draft positions we are

2572
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh and O geezer man, I hate to lose. Please

2573
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: be more positive. We're going to become the Jets at

2574
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 2: this rate we're going through right now. I think Christian

2575
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 2: was trolling us. I actually do no.

2576
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 3: I think he's embracing his No.

2577
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 2: I think he was just doing it to get it.

2578
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 10: I think there's genuinely people that believe like there's no

2579
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 10: point in being like, you know, the third wildcard of

2580
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 10: being the seventh seed and losing in the first round

2581
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 10: in the playoffs when you could be picking in the

2582
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 10: top ten and get the draft pick.

2583
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: I would say I would not want to be in

2584
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 4: that spot, like three four years in a row, the

2585
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 4: way Pittsburgh is right now, and they're kind of on

2586
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 4: that treadmill. And I don't like that treadmill. But if

2587
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 4: you're asking me right now, I would I'd rather be

2588
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 4: four and thirteen or the seventh seed in the playoffs. Like,

2589
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 4: I don't understand how that's even a thought.

2590
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: Well maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like Christian was

2591
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 3: implying like he's trying to get back to dynasty status,

2592
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 3: Like he's trying to get a dynasty in place instead

2593
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 3: of like you're back in the wilderness, but just trying

2594
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 3: to find a championship.

2595
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that sort of grandiose thought, like that's

2596
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 4: that's what I want. I want to get back to dynasty.

2597
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 4: But why do you have to go from bottom to

2598
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 4: dynasty without any steps along the way. Why can't you

2599
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 4: go seven and ten, eight and nine, then go say

2600
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 4: ten and seven or eleven and six and then be

2601
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 4: the dynasty caliber team. Why why is the only way

2602
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 4: to make that progression in the top five? Why is

2603
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 4: that the only way to do it?

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,839
Speaker 10: Well, Like, look at Detroit, like they're not a dynasty,

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01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 10: but like Detroit had that one season in between where

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01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,959
Speaker 10: they went like three thirteen and one in Dan Campbell's

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 10: first year, then they wanted where like one game out

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01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 10: of the playoffs his second year eight right, and then

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01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 10: the third year there they were the best team in

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01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 10: the NFC during the regular season. Like that that happens?

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Speaker 10: Or like, yeah, you go eight and nine, next year

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01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 10: you're twelve thirteen wins.

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01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 2: James in Atlanta by way of Maine. I would venture

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01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: to say that if the Patriots are twelve and five,

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 2: the draft class has become a nucleus that has probably

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01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 2: set up for future success.

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01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 4: Is so a good point.

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01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, Like why are you twelve and five?

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Right, probably because you've got some good players in your team, now,

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01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 4: And I think his premise was they got some wins

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01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 4: that didn't necessarily mean they were that good. Their record

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01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 4: was better than the team because of the schedule, I

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 4: think was his point. But I think I think you

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01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 4: could go, you know, nine and eight, ten and seven

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01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 4: and maybe not be quite as good as the record

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01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 4: because of the schedule. You win twelve at thirteen games,

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01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 4: the way people are talking, you're probably pretty good. That's

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01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 4: a lot of wins, don't you think.

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01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a little too too many for me.

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01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 10: But I don't think like anybody's saying that about Washington.

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01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 10: I keep going back to them, like no one's saying like, oh,

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01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 10: it was a cupcake schedule.

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01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 4: And there's a chance that that that's true. You know,

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01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 10: I have a second year.

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01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that schedule. I think that's often thing

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01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 4: where you sort of take two steps forward to one

2640
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 4: step back.

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01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,839
Speaker 10: I mean, like Houston still made the playoffs.

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 4: They did, but they did they absolutely were not as

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01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 4: cohesive on the field in year two of the Stroud era.

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01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 2: Let's see Eric and Maryland. I'm usually amazed at the

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01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 2: way Paul can pull facts and figures out of the

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01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 2: air concerning Patriots games from the past, and I doubt

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01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: I could stump he who knows all, But with the

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 2: schedule coming out, I decided to take a shot. Just

2649
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 2: this morning, I got my tickets to see the Patriots

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01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 2: take on the Ravens on my birthday in December. I've

2651
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: chalked this game up as a win. Knock on wood,

2652
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: since the Patriots have won every game I've ever attended.

2653
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Granted I've only been to five games, but still I

2654
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 2: take full credit for those wins as my aura spurs

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01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots the victor. My test for Paul is who

2656
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 2: were the opposing quarterbacks in those five wins? So the

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01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 2: first one was the Bengals in twenty twenty four.

2658
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 4: Joe that was last year. Yep, Joe Burrow and Kobe Wessett.

2659
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Who's the posing quarter Just oh yeah, Burrow, Joe Burrow.

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:01,839
Speaker 2: Two the Steelers in twenty three.

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 10: Kenny Pickett.

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01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 4: Wasn't it No? It was Trubisky?

2663
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 2: Correct. Three the Steelers in twenty two.

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01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 10: That was Kenny Pickett. One of those games is Kenny Pickett.

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01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 4: No, I've played this game before, and the answered to

2666
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 4: one of these questions is Kenny Pickett?

2667
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 2: Correct? Again again the Panthers in twenty.

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01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 29: One, Panthers in twenty one, so Sam Darnold's correct. And

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01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 29: finally the Seahawks and.

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01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 4: Eight Seahawks and oaight was Mann Hasselbeck No incorrect?

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01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 3: No wait, oh shoot, don't say this one. I know it.

2672
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh God, like Seneca Wallace.

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 2: Correct, Seneca correct game. Now I see why he wins

2674
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 2: all the games that he goes.

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 4: Ye a common theme. So I would anticipate seeing someone

2676
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 4: other than Lamar Jackson when you go.

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01:57:58,480 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll be Cunningham.

2678
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 2: All right. Final final email Cam Camrion Cam Yuron from Inglewood, California.

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01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,040
Speaker 2: You know where Inglewood. In terms of the schedule release,

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01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm most excited for a week five prime time on

2681
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 2: the road. I personally think that has to be Drake

2682
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 2: May's coming out game. Hope he can plan his flag

2683
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 2: and put the league unnoticed that he's here to stay.

2684
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 2: The Patriots are back to being relevant again. What better

2685
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: tests for the team than against the division champs.

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01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 3: It's a good game. Nice to avoid Buffalo and January.

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01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 3: They've been late there the last couple of years.

2688
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 4: Chances of that game getting flexed out.

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01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 10: By week five, I don't think.

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01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Not early in the season.

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01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 3: I'd say better chance for the can they fox the

2692
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 3: Monday night game? Yeah, the Giants game later in the season.

2693
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 3: That would be where my money would be talking flexing,

2694
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 3: I would agree.

2695
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, it's been fun, but it's over.

2696
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 2: H So that's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: It'll be our last show life life in general.

2698
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 2: What's going on this weekend? Anything big? Celtics Tomorrow night.

2699
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,839
Speaker 10: I'm not allowed to talk about the Celtics anymore.

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01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 4: You can you just have forty seconds?

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 10: I wouldn't want to go in the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: Look for that.

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Speaker 2: We'll make sure that if you're on social media, you

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Speaker 2: know that it's dropped.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be coming out tomorrow. Very excited you. Other

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Speaker 2: than that, have see you next Tuesday.

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