Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us. We're so excited to be back. I'm in
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Speaker 2: Absolutely can Okay, So time to get into the episode, Kathy.
Speaker 2: We've got to start with this week's episode of Paradise,
Speaker 2: the Treasure Chest Challenge. Do tell I mean?
Speaker 1: So here was the thing. We had to decide who
Speaker 1: was going to be the hunter and who was going
Speaker 1: to be trapped in the and you trapped in the chest.
Speaker 1: And you know, Susan, I have claustrophobia. I don't like
Speaker 1: it how and not to mention being locked in the
Speaker 1: chest when it's one hundred and eight degrees.
Speaker 2: I would have never gotten in never.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just say I wanted Keith to change
Speaker 1: his will and he wasn't willing, but he did. Keith
Speaker 1: is more claustrophobic than I am, so I agreed to
Speaker 1: do it. And you did see I had a little
Speaker 1: alcohol help in there.
Speaker 2: So that's soll well sneaky, a little something. I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's why she's there. But you said, why send a
Speaker 2: man to do a woman's job? Kathy, I think you
Speaker 2: got would have actually won had you been out there.
Speaker 2: He wasn't. First of all, walkie talkie sucked and he
Speaker 2: was I'm just watching him.
Speaker 1: He was struggling and I I love Keith. The truth
Speaker 1: is and I said it on the show. You have
Speaker 1: to be a good you have to enunciate and speak slowly,
Speaker 1: and I did. It was so hot in there, I
Speaker 1: cannot tell you.
Speaker 2: He couldn't hear you. I mean he was going I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Oh my god, You're not
Speaker 2: going to make it.
Speaker 1: I know. And when I watched it back and saw
Speaker 1: Jess and Spencer, it was like, oh, well, where's the key?
Speaker 1: Oh put the key in? Okay, next job. You know,
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Johonathan speaks up right when you're about to start the
Speaker 2: challenge and he said, I have to pee. I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: You're never gonna make it.
Speaker 1: You're never could. It was a really fun challenge, but
Speaker 1: I will tell you it was at least for Keith
Speaker 1: and me. It was a tough challenge. But again, all
Speaker 1: the challenges were so much fun. Yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2: Whisha and Sean did really well.
Speaker 1: They did good.
Speaker 2: Of course Jess and her Man. I just love those two.
Speaker 2: How about their yoga day and they're so in love.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Alicia, I thought they did really well.
Speaker 1: You know, it was fun. It was a fun activity.
Speaker 1: I never thought for a minute that I was going
Speaker 1: to be buried alive. You know. I had to get
Speaker 1: back to you.
Speaker 2: How about when Leah was crying, Like, when I see
Speaker 2: Jonathan again, I'm going to teach him. You hold the
Speaker 2: girl that's crying. He was so cold I think that's
Speaker 2: why you don't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm gonna I love Leah and Jonathan,
Speaker 1: but I have to defend Jonathan here. Okay, he did
Speaker 1: not in my opinion, he did not want to send
Speaker 1: out the wrong message.
Speaker 2: She was crying, and when a woman cries, you hold her.
Speaker 1: Her. But well he did that rose ceremony. But that's
Speaker 1: another story. I just think that he they have a friendship,
Speaker 1: and I just think he felt weird about it, But
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 2: I think he was uncomfortable and he should have just
Speaker 2: held her and said, it's okay, babe, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Look out, Susan's coming for you. I'm going to teach
Speaker 1: you something.
Speaker 2: Jonathan, Kathy, when Sean told you to just I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to say, zip it. I would have
Speaker 2: lost my mind.
Speaker 1: He's like, got it. I mean he's entitled. He's entitled.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about politician Shaan, Like what was done.
Speaker 1: About the Parliament of Paradise? I know, Wait, what can
Speaker 1: I have some cred here? Did you notice your girl
Speaker 1: was not in the middle of this drama? I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm watching this going I'm going oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: stay away. Stay away, but I thought where you were
Speaker 1: going I could I didn't understand on the show, and
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it watching it back. The guy was
Speaker 1: politicking like crazy.
Speaker 2: He should run, he should run for.
Speaker 1: His father is a politician. So I'm watching this going
Speaker 1: on and I'm like, I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I have to say. When did
Speaker 1: you hear me say two things? Because Kathy is honest.
Speaker 1: When I said that Brian and Parison needed to leave,
Speaker 1: I really thought Keith and I were going home. I
Speaker 1: really did. That's why I wore the beautiful white dress.
Speaker 1: I said. I bought that in case I got engaged. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting engaged. I'm going home to wear the
Speaker 1: white dress. But here's the thing. Parisa was so unhappy,
Speaker 1: like you know, you remember when she goes to his
Speaker 1: room in a prior episode and she was so worried
Speaker 1: about the relationship and then so you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think they were struggling, and I wanted them to go
Speaker 1: home and find see if they had love at home
Speaker 1: without about us.
Speaker 2: Alicia talking with the girls, and she really had her
Speaker 2: feelings hurt and she opened up. I think that was
Speaker 2: the wisest thing she could have done, and she could
Speaker 2: feel better afterwards, right yeah.
Speaker 1: And then and then the other thing that I said,
Speaker 1: I you know, when Sean came to talk to Keith
Speaker 1: and me and he said, well, we have one of
Speaker 1: the strongest relationship with me. I looked him right now,
Speaker 1: I said, no, you don't. We'll wait.
Speaker 2: Sean and Cat whoa cat showed me a different side
Speaker 2: of Cat this week. I help me say, tell me,
Speaker 2: First of all, I thought they were friends prior to
Speaker 2: as well. She didn't act like she gave two hoots
Speaker 2: about his friendship, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: And I didn't think it was good at all.
Speaker 2: And because the money's involved, it's a whole new game.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me just say my feelings on that. Okay.
Speaker 1: I have said from the beginning when they introduced the
Speaker 1: money factor, I said, oh boy, here we go. You know,
Speaker 1: love for money, which one's gonna win out? And my
Speaker 1: my thought on this episode, if I had to, you know,
Speaker 1: if I had to give the summation, it would be
Speaker 1: it's it's starting to get real, it's and so some
Speaker 1: people are there for love, and like Jonathan and Land.
Speaker 1: Jonathan comes right out and says it. He's there for
Speaker 1: the money, Keith and I had said on and it
Speaker 1: was shown. I think last week we're not taking money
Speaker 1: out of kid's hands. But you've got this thing now
Speaker 1: where the people who are in love? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you heard it when Jess and Spencer told each
Speaker 1: other they're falling in love and Jess says, whoaa he's
Speaker 1: and Spencer says, oh, it's about you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money involved. And what does Jess say? Whoa
Speaker 1: whoa whoa. We came here to find love, and that
Speaker 1: to me, sunded up the whole episode. You can have
Speaker 1: love and you can have my but if you don't
Speaker 1: have love with the money, you're in trouble.
Speaker 2: And it just said this would be a great start
Speaker 2: for our future with the money, but if they don't,
Speaker 2: they were fine. Now let's get down to the Rose ceremony.
Speaker 2: First of all, Dale farting. I lost it.
Speaker 1: Listen. I love Dale. He can do anything he wants
Speaker 1: and I'm still going to support him, don't care love.
Speaker 2: Him, and I was quite surprised. More so, not only
Speaker 2: did Alicia and Sean they left on their own, but
Speaker 2: the girl's reaction.
Speaker 1: I have to interrupt, Okay, you did. I don't think
Speaker 1: people picked up on this after they left with integrity
Speaker 1: and we can talk about that. Did they really Jesse
Speaker 1: Palmer says, well, they were going home anyway. Yes, they
Speaker 1: were voted off. They dits. We all okay, well no,
Speaker 1: some other people said to me, do you think a
Speaker 1: third couple would have gone? It's like, no, they were
Speaker 1: the couple.
Speaker 2: Go we're going home. But they did that before they
Speaker 2: knew that.
Speaker 1: They didn't know. The feeling I got was we know
Speaker 1: we're going home, so we're gonna get out of here first.
Speaker 1: But when Sean, when when Alicia says, let's leave with it,
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're leaving with integrity, and then he
Speaker 1: pops off. Sean pops off and says, don't call me
Speaker 1: when this one goes sideways.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to be cocky.
Speaker 1: Well that's not right.
Speaker 2: And person and Bresa and Brian they left with no ruse,
Speaker 2: and then they showed the previews for next week. I
Speaker 2: was dying. First of all. When Keith starts, I was like, what,
Speaker 2: you're homesick, you want to go home. You're there for
Speaker 2: a reason. Now it's a game. Now, okay, it's not
Speaker 2: about love. You know, you have a friendship, and to
Speaker 2: be perfectly honest with you, because you guys had such
Speaker 2: a great friendship, I would have I assume he went
Speaker 2: out last week as.
Speaker 1: Well, present tenth we have a great friendship.
Speaker 2: Yes, well sorry, you have a good friendship. But I
Speaker 2: would have thought because of that, yous weren't a real
Speaker 2: threat to them. Get it, but you guys are very smart.
Speaker 2: They don't know if you're going to try to steal
Speaker 2: the money or not. I assume that they would have
Speaker 2: let you go instead. The Brian and the Parisa like
Speaker 2: that was coming for a while, Well, that's it, Susan.
Speaker 1: I think they had all the fun with Brian telling
Speaker 1: Bailey that whole thing, right, I think that was I
Speaker 1: think Brian was going.
Speaker 2: How about just saying, oh my gosh when he said
Speaker 2: something about their future and she goes, I don't know
Speaker 2: that I'm going to be ready to move right in
Speaker 2: with you, and she went the whole.
Speaker 1: Night, she was so in love.
Speaker 2: They were falling in lego. What did you tell say.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, remember it's a show,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a truncated version. You know you don't
Speaker 1: have months here to fall in love. So they say,
Speaker 1: they're saying they're falling in love. Are you going to
Speaker 1: move in with a guy you've known for whatever, a month,
Speaker 1: six weeks. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, no, So I think it was just going. I
Speaker 2: respect you, that's all it is, Kathy, I do.
Speaker 1: I hope that's all. Yeah. I'm just saying that's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure as a mom or moths. Would you
Speaker 1: want your daughter to move in with the guys she
Speaker 1: met six weeks ago? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, No, of course not. But no, I don't think
Speaker 2: you're talking about the future. They're saying they've fallen in
Speaker 2: love with each other. I think they are the sweetest
Speaker 2: couple on the whole show.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 2: You're not a couple.
Speaker 1: We're a friend couple.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not a couple. You're friends and good friends.
Speaker 2: But the show, to me, is about falling in love
Speaker 2: right finding your partner.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This show is about finding love and maybe
Speaker 1: finding five hundred thousands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twist in there, didn't they so I'd be really
Speaker 2: interesting to see next week.
Speaker 1: I think, well, you saw it next week. They hinted
Speaker 1: they gave a teaser about camping.
Speaker 2: Yes, I boy, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: You know my.
Speaker 2: Idea camping, Kathy is no phone in the room.
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to tell you I love to camp.
Speaker 1: I love I love tent camping. And I think people
Speaker 1: would be surprised to hear that. Now you saw the
Speaker 1: previous I'm camping in a very expensive silk dress.
Speaker 2: But still, whit's the last time you camped.
Speaker 1: Caitlin, my daughter, her husband and I camped right before.
Speaker 1: It's been like two years. Because sleeping bags I have, Susan,
Speaker 1: I have a tent. I have a sleeping bag. I
Speaker 1: have a pad for the sleeping bag. I have cooking utensils.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I bug spray, I love it. I'm telling you it's
Speaker 1: like when I come home I need to delouse myself. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I love camping.
Speaker 2: You're not afraid. I just creatures out there.
Speaker 1: You don't like it.
Speaker 2: I told you my idea of camping is no phone
Speaker 2: in the room.
Speaker 1: You mean the hotel room.
Speaker 2: In the room, period of time you want to put me.
Speaker 1: Wait, I thought when you said that, I heard tent.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, you can leave your phone outside
Speaker 1: the tent. There is nothing as great as unzipping your
Speaker 1: tent and looking up at the sky and the.
Speaker 2: Stars, walk out the cabin door in the morning and
Speaker 2: look at that same sky and be perfectly happy and
Speaker 2: poop on a toilet cut out in the woods.
Speaker 1: Business Why you and I love each other like people
Speaker 1: would not think. They probably would think you would camp
Speaker 1: and not me. It's exactly the opposite vaccination, exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, this was really good. Now I think we're
Speaker 2: going to have to get into our advice portion of
Speaker 2: this episode. I'll start us off.
Speaker 1: With the question of the day.
Speaker 2: When you've done something wrong, how can you decipher whether
Speaker 2: coming clean is best for the person you hurt versus
Speaker 2: just trying to clear your own conscious?
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I have the answer for crazy. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we may disagree on this. Actually, for me, if I've
Speaker 1: done something wrong and I think that apologize and first
Speaker 1: of all is always right. But if I come clean
Speaker 1: and it's going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come I'm going.
Speaker 2: As best for the person that you hurt versus.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm always that's right, I said, I'm always going
Speaker 1: to come clean and apologize unless it's right, it's selective
Speaker 1: coming clean if it's best for the person. I'm not
Speaker 1: there to decide what is best for you. So if
Speaker 1: I feel like coming clean is going to further hurt you,
Speaker 1: I'm not coming clean. I'm not even but with clear
Speaker 1: my conscience. Well I cud, I said what I had
Speaker 1: to say. I feel better now, uh uh huh huh,
Speaker 1: not me? What about you?
Speaker 2: I would definitely when I admit when I do something wrong,
Speaker 2: when people, if somebody tells me, I.
Speaker 1: Why I do too?
Speaker 2: But what if telling me but it's already said? You
Speaker 2: can't take back what you've said?
Speaker 1: Right? No, but if if if you did something, said
Speaker 1: something to me, and you've done something wrong and now
Speaker 1: now and maybe not to me, maybe you've done something
Speaker 1: wrong and you said some about my family or something,
Speaker 1: and you and in clearing your conscience and in apologizing,
Speaker 1: you dig the hole deeper. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 1: that happening? Like stop quit while you're ahead, Like I
Speaker 1: get it, you're sorry, but now you're making it worse.
Speaker 2: My conscience always feels better when I admit my fault.
Speaker 2: And if I've hurt anybody, I'm sincerely sorry.
Speaker 1: Yes, so am I. But if clearing your conscience makes
Speaker 1: the other person feel worse, like you have to give
Speaker 1: them more information, like, oh my god, Susan, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you feel better now that you've apologized. Now you've also
Speaker 1: just told now you've made me feel worse.
Speaker 2: I don't feel better that I apologized. I feel better
Speaker 2: whether it's accepted and things go back to normal, but
Speaker 2: I would feel bad the entire time. I don't understand
Speaker 2: how whether the question reads when you've done something wrong.
Speaker 2: Can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the
Speaker 2: person you've hurt or just to clear you. You seem
Speaker 2: with always best, the truth will always set you free,
Speaker 2: even if people are upset.
Speaker 1: With We're going to handle that one in Stone. I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is sometimes when you're not you,
Speaker 1: but when one is apologizing and they have to give
Speaker 1: more context to understand. You know, I'm sorry, Susan, but
Speaker 1: here's what was going on. I'm making it up. You're
Speaker 1: going to laugh like I'm sorry I did that, but
Speaker 1: I was sleeping with Frederic at the time, And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's like, sometimes you can add
Speaker 1: insult to the injury. So I think sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: simple apology sometimes is better, and it's always You're exactly right,
Speaker 1: it's always better to be honest. But I think sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't need to add. Yeah, all the information could
Speaker 1: agree on that. Okay, how about this. Let me give
Speaker 1: you an example to help you understand where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: Ok what if someone cheated on someone ten years ago?
Speaker 1: They did it one time and then and now you know,
Speaker 1: they told their partner, Like, is that worth hurting them
Speaker 1: to say that they cheated? You should go to your greed? Oh,
Speaker 1: but you just said the truth is I was the
Speaker 1: best truth? Will say your break I've done.
Speaker 2: But in a situation like you're saying, ten years ago,
Speaker 2: he cheated and you cheated.
Speaker 1: You cheated on your partner. Ten years later, you decide
Speaker 1: to come clean and tell your partner, would it be
Speaker 1: worth hurting them? No? Oh, but the truth set you're afraid.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Sometimes the context makes it worse,
Speaker 1: so you don't always come but it might make you
Speaker 1: feel better. Your own conscience might feel better.
Speaker 2: Oh it's your own guilt. Yes, yes, yes, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: benefit that, So.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So sometimes it's better to keep
Speaker 1: your mouth, not your you know what I'm saying. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I agree. However, if I'm cheating on someone, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be once in ten years. You're not going to
Speaker 1: cheat you right off, let's start those fan quests. Let's
Speaker 1: we're going to get into these fan of questions. I'm
Speaker 1: going to start us off at the first one. This
Speaker 1: one is from anonymous. Hi, ladies, I'm in a tough
Speaker 1: spot and could really use some help. This past weekend,
Speaker 1: I went out with my friends to a club. The
Speaker 1: next morning, one of the girls sat me down and
Speaker 1: told me I made out with a guy towards the
Speaker 1: end of the night and gave him my phone number.
Speaker 1: I'm currently in a four month relationship and I'm panicking.
Speaker 1: Do I tell him and apologize? My group is split.
Speaker 1: Half think I should, the other half think it'll do
Speaker 1: more harm than good.
Speaker 2: What do I do? Thanks, ladies? First of all, she
Speaker 2: don't remember how you.
Speaker 1: First of all, are you well where I was called?
Speaker 1: First of all, she doesn't remember because I'm going to
Speaker 1: go with she was drunk, And what do I always say?
Speaker 1: Being drunk is never an excuse for bad behavior. So girlfriend, yeah,
Speaker 1: drank too much? Now you got a problem.
Speaker 2: See now, it's too many people know, because if you
Speaker 2: decide to keep your mouth shut, then somebody else might
Speaker 2: tell him. I would try would you do that? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe just say, babe, I got so drunk.
Speaker 2: I think I kissed somebody. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, a fourth she doesn't remember doing it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, and like I said, drinking is not
Speaker 1: an excuse for bad behavior. But what would you do?
Speaker 1: What would you do? I know what I would do.
Speaker 1: You would zip it? I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I tell him the truth? Yeah, like I said, no.
Speaker 1: You just said zip it? Which is it? You can't
Speaker 1: tell him?
Speaker 2: But if I didn't remember doing it, I'd have to
Speaker 2: tell him. My friends told me I kissed somebody last night,
Speaker 2: and I don't remember doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, whether there are two or more in
Speaker 1: his name, there's gossip, so he's going to find out.
Speaker 1: So you might as well come clean. But I would
Speaker 1: come clean because that's who I am. And I would
Speaker 1: say I remember doing it. I would say John, I
Speaker 1: am so sorry my future guys. John, Is there John
Speaker 1: out there who wants me? I would say, John, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry, here's the deal.
Speaker 2: This is what happened.
Speaker 1: I got drunk and there's no excuse for that. I
Speaker 1: got drunk and I didn't know. Told this morning when
Speaker 1: Susan told me that I made out with a guy,
Speaker 1: it's bad favor. And you know what, John, I think
Speaker 1: I need to stop drinking because I have no memory
Speaker 1: of it. I want to go forward with you. I
Speaker 1: hope you will forgive me. And if he says I'm
Speaker 1: out of here, you know what you learned really quickly.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't drink anymore. I've never been black out drunk.
Speaker 1: Have you wait? Have I ever been black eyed drunk?
Speaker 1: Maybe once you didn't remember anything? No, but I mean
Speaker 1: I don't remember, so maybe you know. I don't drink
Speaker 1: to the point of getting drunk because I subscribe. I
Speaker 1: take my own advice. You get drunk. There is no excuse.
Speaker 1: You cannot say. I cannot say to you, Susan, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I got really drunk. What did I h
Speaker 1: That's not an excuse. So I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: been black eyed drunk. I don't think so. A lot
Speaker 1: of people use it. Yeah, well stop using it. That's
Speaker 1: my advice.
Speaker 2: We got a second question, Susan, I need to know
Speaker 2: if you think I'm overreacting. I just found out that
Speaker 2: my boyfriend of three years completely lied to me about
Speaker 2: how we met. Oh boy, and I feel so weird. Basically,
Speaker 2: his best friend slipped up while we were at this
Speaker 2: weekend and said, I'm so glad you two are together.
Speaker 2: Seeing him be so into you for so long and
Speaker 2: not go for it for over a year was agonizing, like,
Speaker 2: look at what he would have missed out on. I
Speaker 2: was confused because when my boyfriend and I met, we
Speaker 2: struck up conversation in the library at our college, and
Speaker 2: I have always believed he met me or knew of
Speaker 2: me for the first time. That day, after pressing his
Speaker 2: best friend for more details, he told me that he
Speaker 2: met me at a party freshman year and was crushing
Speaker 2: on me from Afar for an entire year before we met.
Speaker 2: His best friend apologized profusely and said he assumed I
Speaker 2: knew that was the deal. Now I feel really icky
Speaker 2: that he lied and was crushing on me from Afar.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It makes me feel weird and I
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned it to my boyfriend yet. Any ideas and
Speaker 2: what to do next? Thanks? Lady, Yes that I have
Speaker 2: an idea. Stop that is like a compliment, you idiot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking. I'm reading this going this
Speaker 1: girl is under the age of twenty five. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the blankety blank over it?
Speaker 2: Whois like me for that long?
Speaker 1: And you finally asked me where can I find a guy?
Speaker 2: God? I mean seriously, this is youth at its best.
Speaker 2: All right here, you obviously listen to our podcast. Listen
Speaker 2: to me now, thank the guy the best friend for
Speaker 2: telling you that, and your heart should just be panning
Speaker 2: right now. Who cares?
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry, I'm going to a whole different level
Speaker 1: where if he told you I didn't care. You're with
Speaker 1: the guy for three years, you're happy? What is wrong
Speaker 1: with you? What is wrong with youth of today? I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for thinking.
Speaker 2: It's not thinking at all. That's a problem, sweetheart. It's
Speaker 2: a blessing. It's a blessing. Just think about it. He
Speaker 2: has been admiring you for a year and he didn't
Speaker 2: have the courage to come up to you for a
Speaker 2: whole year.
Speaker 1: Blessing, and you're thinking it's weird. What is weird about that? She?
Speaker 1: You know what this girl probably thinks it's weird of
Speaker 1: if he sends her flowers. Honey, whoever you are, you
Speaker 1: need to get over this. You met him makes her
Speaker 1: get over it.
Speaker 2: That is a compliment above all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen him into you for so wait
Speaker 1: and agonizing. I was confused because when my boyfriend I met,
Speaker 1: we struck up a car. You know what was incredible?
Speaker 1: He in a backup, sweetheart, not you, sweetheart, sweetheart Anonymous.
Speaker 1: I am so sorry that you met this guy in
Speaker 1: the library at college, had this great conversation. You were
Speaker 1: attracted to each other. You met that day, stars in
Speaker 1: the sky. It was like love at first sight. Sucks
Speaker 1: to be you get.
Speaker 2: What if that's your biggest problem? You are blessed, young lady.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry that may be out't know where
Speaker 1: it came from. This is the strangest question we have
Speaker 1: ever had. I love you, and I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: you are in love with this guy and have a
Speaker 1: boyfriend of three years.
Speaker 2: Don't worry how you met brace him for this, embrace.
Speaker 1: Think how lucky you are, Kathy.
Speaker 2: I mean, we both feel the same way. But what
Speaker 2: if what if he studied her in a way and
Speaker 2: he knew things about her, and he was trying to
Speaker 2: impress her, but he already knew.
Speaker 1: It was almost like a stalk kind of Okay, now
Speaker 1: you've just gone from Anonymous enjoy it to creep. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Anonymous.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, that's weird. That And again here
Speaker 2: I am and this positive thinker. I would think, Oh,
Speaker 2: how sweet he wanted to get to know what I
Speaker 2: like so he could Yeah.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, whoa no. If I'm
Speaker 1: going down to your example, if in fact he knew
Speaker 1: her favorite flowers and he knew where she went to
Speaker 1: a bar, and so all of a sudden he's showing up,
Speaker 1: you know, she starts thinking back on the last I
Speaker 1: saw or whatever this one. Yeah, now it's stalker ish.
Speaker 1: Now it's weird. Now I don't like it. So Anonymous,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I apologize. Maybe it's weird. I
Speaker 1: think what you have to do, Anonymous, is reevaluate how
Speaker 1: he's treated you, are the things he knew or is
Speaker 1: it just it wasn't the happenstance meeting that you thought
Speaker 1: it was. The Other thing I will say is if
Speaker 1: you met him in freshman year and you don't remember it,
Speaker 1: you clearly have too many guys chasing after you, so
Speaker 1: you might think about that.
Speaker 2: I still think it was a compliment. But if it
Speaker 2: were the other case.
Speaker 1: I can understand that.
Speaker 2: But then so she you know, obviously cluing something.
Speaker 1: Get over it. Three years. I'm sorry, it's three years.
Speaker 2: Something's working. Don't let look at a gift horse in
Speaker 2: the map.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you know what if he if he's
Speaker 1: sending you flowers and and he's you know, he watched
Speaker 1: you shop for flowers and you bunch of the same
Speaker 1: ones ten times, say thank you, Oh thanks for writing
Speaker 1: in that. We enjoyed that one.
Speaker 2: Alrighty Kat. Today we're gonna play never.
Speaker 1: Since his favorite, Never My Ever.
Speaker 2: Kathy and I are going to switch off saying things
Speaker 2: we've never done. I think I'm finally getting this game.
Speaker 2: I swear if the other person has done it, they
Speaker 2: put a finger down or drink wine. Right, the first
Speaker 2: person with five fingers loses.
Speaker 1: I'll start us off.
Speaker 2: Oh this is different.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just drinking, Susan, you put your fingers down.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to be drinking. It's easier, all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, start all right.
Speaker 2: First thing I've never slipped with my boss to get ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking. I have never so no or lied
Speaker 1: to get ahead. No, we're not. Okay, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: boring at this cat. We're gonna be boring. It's all
Speaker 1: get up, all right, here's my first one. Never have
Speaker 1: I ever dated a man that one of my friends
Speaker 1: dated first?
Speaker 2: Oh, I had that one too.
Speaker 1: Have you done that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Have you done it? Hell Susan, we gotta get some drinking.
Speaker 1: Your turn.
Speaker 2: Never have I ever been on Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 2: but I hope it happens this year.
Speaker 1: We can't drink to that one either, because you haven't.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Never have I ever disrespected and older or in Catholic
Speaker 2: school and none or a priest.
Speaker 4: I was scared to death. I've never disrespected well. First
Speaker 4: of all, I never went to Catholic school. So I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna have a drink because you know, cheers to confession.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking. Didn't go to Catholic school. Okay, I can't
Speaker 1: say this one because I did. It's my turn, it's
Speaker 1: my drink. You can't do the ball. Never have I
Speaker 1: ever sent to a spicy selfie? Don't license and drink up?
Speaker 1: Uh huh. There she is drinking up. I have. Why
Speaker 1: am I not surprised with your boyfriend? I mean I haven't.
Speaker 1: I never do with my husband ever.
Speaker 2: Okay, never have I ever?
Speaker 1: Oh yes I have. Okay, I'll give an easy one.
Speaker 1: Never have I ever stolen anything from a store.
Speaker 2: I stole pack sears when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: You know what I just remembered. I stole a pack
Speaker 1: of gum once when I was young. Oh god, I
Speaker 1: have to take two SIPs now. I forgot and you
Speaker 1: just said that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't get caught that, Kathy. Never have I
Speaker 2: ever farted and blamed it on someone else.
Speaker 1: You just Susan. You're supposed to be saying one, but
Speaker 1: I never gone. You just want to drink. Here's one
Speaker 1: for you. Never have I ever let a man take
Speaker 1: me shopping and then let him pay the bill? Oh god,
Speaker 1: are you drinking? No?
Speaker 2: But I take men shopping and I pay the bill.
Speaker 2: You no, seriously.
Speaker 1: No, Wait, I want to back up, and then I
Speaker 1: want you to take two SIPs of wine. You have
Speaker 1: taken men shopping and you've paid the bill.
Speaker 2: I've bought stuff for them. Yeah, uh huh, Okay, Colin's
Speaker 2: taking me shopping and paying the bill. They'd be scared.
Speaker 1: I'm just stunned. Why am I not actually stunned? Susan
Speaker 1: likes people to dress a certain way, and apparently Susan's
Speaker 1: now willing to pay the drice she's gonna dress. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Okay.
Speaker 2: Never have I ever jumped out of an airplane?
Speaker 1: I have not either, but I'd like to. That's how
Speaker 1: I was on my bucket list when I went on
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. That was one of things I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: was jump out of the airplane. Yes, bucket, and I
Speaker 1: didn't nor Its solicious for a recap of Golden bats Or.
Speaker 1: Kathy never had a one on one date, she never
Speaker 1: got a gift, and she never jumped out of an airplane. Okay,
Speaker 1: moving on. Never have I ever paid the entire bill
Speaker 1: went on a first date with a guy? Oh god,
Speaker 1: you're drinking again. Go for it, drinking. You have paid
Speaker 1: the entire bill on a first date with a guy,
Speaker 1: A freaking lutely. You know why?
Speaker 2: If I knew I was never going to see them again,
Speaker 2: it helped me not.
Speaker 1: Feel so guilty. So I a bill.
Speaker 2: I paid the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, I should.
Speaker 2: Have been a guy.
Speaker 1: I think. I think so, I've got a great guy.
Speaker 2: Can't have you ever text said the text?
Speaker 1: Ever? I did it?
Speaker 2: So I then you can't say it.
Speaker 1: These are things you've never done.
Speaker 2: This is why I hate this game.
Speaker 1: You never have never that's because you've done a lot
Speaker 1: of things. All right, I got another one. Never have
Speaker 1: I ever snuck into a movie? Sorry, snuck into more
Speaker 1: than one movie? Would only pain for one movie.
Speaker 3: In other words, you've done that too, Susan, Go do
Speaker 3: the next one.
Speaker 1: Wait? Can I just say I would just like to
Speaker 1: point out something here. Kathy who gets ripped on the
Speaker 1: internet lives a clean I don't swear at the nuns
Speaker 1: that I don't know. I don't know that. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't do any of this stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't do anything bad. And there's miss Susan.
Speaker 2: Over here, such a rule follower.
Speaker 1: It's working for me. Fun to bend the rules. Bend
Speaker 1: the rules, Susan breaks them in half and then breaks
Speaker 1: them in half.
Speaker 2: Or have I ever got pulled over for speeding and
Speaker 2: actually got a ticket.
Speaker 1: I've never been pulled over for speeding, of course not.
Speaker 1: I've never had a ticket.
Speaker 2: Worry because you don't speed.
Speaker 1: Either, right? Wait? Can I tell you a funny story?
Speaker 1: Can I? Oh? I do speed? A funny story. When
Speaker 1: I was doing my global entry, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to go and be interviewed by people before they let
Speaker 1: you get your global untery. The guy comes out to
Speaker 1: interview me and he goes, are you for real? I said, what?
Speaker 1: He goes, you have nothing? He said this, I've never
Speaker 1: he said, I've been doing this, you know, interviewing people.
Speaker 1: You are the first person you've never had a parking ticket.
Speaker 1: I said, I know. He goes, No, we don't get
Speaker 1: people like that. I said, I know. Can I my
Speaker 1: global entry now, Kathy?
Speaker 2: When we were being screened and everything to be on
Speaker 2: the show and the Golden Bacheler, same thing he had
Speaker 2: said to me, Oh, there's two things. I actually paid
Speaker 2: money online to see what my criminal record was and
Speaker 2: it was an outstanding parking ticket.
Speaker 1: You you, I'm sorry it was a dollar you you
Speaker 1: researched your.
Speaker 2: Criminal back because it said I had two things griminal
Speaker 2: and there were both tickets. One I never paid. I
Speaker 2: didn't know I had it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got to tell you when my husband,
Speaker 1: who did have several speed tickets and in the state
Speaker 1: of Texas, I'm just gonna blow blow everyone's mind here
Speaker 1: you can pay a lawyer who walks into the court
Speaker 1: with a stack of tickets and gets you off the ticket. Yes,
Speaker 1: welcome to Welcome to the rough shot, Texas, where laws
Speaker 1: are just suggestions. But my husband was driving once and
Speaker 1: was speeding and I was panicked because he was going
Speaker 1: so fast because he wanted to get to wherever we
Speaker 1: were going. I said, I hope you get pulled over.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the cop to give you a ticket.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, Susan I hear, I hear comes down.
Speaker 1: He looked at me like, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2: You know, And I looked at the cop said would
Speaker 2: I tell you about thoughts?
Speaker 1: And the cop gave him a ticket? But I probably
Speaker 1: got you up. He did, And you know what I
Speaker 1: said to him, Oh big deal, you got that lawyer friendly.
Speaker 1: You're just paying three hundred bucks and it doesn't go
Speaker 1: on your record. Get over yourself, true story, all right?
Speaker 1: When else you got there for me?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know, did you ever?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: I did do this too, this to the wrong person.
Speaker 1: About that person that I have done, Yes, never have
Speaker 1: I ever left a restaurant without paying? You ever done that? No? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: good god. Here, I'm just checking your moral moral compass there.
Speaker 1: Never have I ever dated more than one guy at
Speaker 1: a time. Oh my god, she's thinking, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, well, like in a relationship.
Speaker 1: No, but oh here meeting looking full the Susan's looking
Speaker 1: for the gray aread.
Speaker 2: No, when you're on the dating apps and you see
Speaker 2: one one night and the next week you've met somebody else,
Speaker 2: that's not really dating.
Speaker 1: No. I don't do two times. So if you've had
Speaker 1: more than one date with a guy, you know I have. Hey, Frederic,
Speaker 1: listen up, buddy, she's got a guy.
Speaker 2: Because we were broken up for well over a year
Speaker 2: and we saw each other again. What now When I
Speaker 2: was dating Mark, remember for two years and then we
Speaker 2: broke up over a year, we didn't talk and then yeah,
Speaker 2: we got together again. But I had been No, I
Speaker 2: wasn't really dating anybody else.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, do you hear? I want everyone
Speaker 1: to pay attention. You're hearing Susan going, well, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: never have I ever Susan would never have a drink again,
Speaker 1: because Susan has done most things in life and I
Speaker 1: am proud of you. Girlfriend. You're living the life that
Speaker 1: I have never lived.
Speaker 2: It's called experience. That's what made me who I am today.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of experiences.
Speaker 2: Crochane, experience, Kathy, you were still wet behind the ears.
Speaker 1: You got married and moved to Brazil. I mean, God's
Speaker 1: I moved to Scotland. Scotland not even the same continent,
Speaker 1: may I.
Speaker 2: But probably about to reach on our podcast with Teresa
Speaker 2: and her saying she was a star of the play.
Speaker 1: And where is she coming from?
Speaker 2: I don't know, just made me think of it. Scotland, Berlin,
Speaker 2: whatever I thought.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm surprised to find out she lived in
Speaker 1: Berlin when she was first married, because I lived in
Speaker 1: Scotland when I was.
Speaker 2: First Have I ever told someone that I loved them
Speaker 2: and didn't mean it?
Speaker 1: I've done that. Does that mean I have to drink
Speaker 1: drink Oka's damn?
Speaker 2: Get me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what these old Reddit fingers, You've never
Speaker 1: done that? No, No, you know me.
Speaker 2: I fall in love easy.
Speaker 1: Oh oh wait a minute, so let me get this right.
Speaker 1: I've told guys that I loved him once or twice
Speaker 1: when I didn't you tell every guy, you love him
Speaker 1: and mean it. Okay, you'll mean it for ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Is this when I'm married? No, I was not proud
Speaker 1: of my Actually I only did it once and I
Speaker 1: felt terrible about it.
Speaker 2: You know you were uncomfortable. You wanted him to feel better.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I think you know. I think
Speaker 1: I was nervous in the moment like I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did it for a while and I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: to let him go, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Any Have you ever told someone that you are in
Speaker 2: love with them and they didn't say it back? Yes,
Speaker 2: one time that ikey feeling.
Speaker 1: It was and I will say I am still friends
Speaker 1: with that guy today. It was the ickiest feeling on
Speaker 1: the mind.
Speaker 2: Was like a week before Christmas and night it was
Speaker 2: the moment and I said it, and I know he
Speaker 2: loved me. I knew he did. And he said thank you,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what Kathy it? Thank you everything?
Speaker 2: And then New Year's Eve at midnight, he tells me
Speaker 2: he loves me. Little did he know he blew it.
Speaker 2: I hated him for making me feel like that, and
Speaker 2: he said I would have told you that night, but
Speaker 2: I wanted to do it at mean I go, you're
Speaker 2: fucking weird. Okay, is this.
Speaker 1: Story is getting way too convoluted for me? He said
Speaker 1: thank you, but he did love you, but he didn't
Speaker 1: tell you. Yes, yes, this is why? Wait? Can I
Speaker 1: just say to you this is This is the kind
Speaker 1: of experiences that I hope our listeners write in. Has
Speaker 1: this ever happened to you? Did you ever tell someone
Speaker 1: you loved them and not mean it? Did you? Do
Speaker 1: you think it's weird that this guy didn't tell Susan Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's weird.
Speaker 2: Two weeks, two and a half weeks later you counting
Speaker 2: the weeks, Kathy, it changed me inside? You don't know,
Speaker 2: because you didn't love him anymore. No, I still loved him,
Speaker 2: but no, everything was different after that.
Speaker 1: Why it was? I really know? With a ball in
Speaker 1: left field here.
Speaker 2: Can you give me a definition for narcissists?
Speaker 1: Yes? In my opinion, a narcissist is a person who
Speaker 1: only thinks of themselves. Everything there, it's it's ego center.
Speaker 1: Everything revolves around them. Implications are only how they feel,
Speaker 1: how something reacts to them, how they can make it
Speaker 1: best for themselves without any regard to someone else, or
Speaker 1: how it affects someone else. That's that for a definition.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I wonder you were success at
Speaker 2: this game or we sucked at it?
Speaker 1: Well, I think the conclusion is Susan has done most
Speaker 1: everything and lived an incredible life, and Kathy is still
Speaker 1: nit one pearl one knit one pearl one. But I
Speaker 1: you know what, here's the good news. We are Golden
Speaker 1: age is just number. We got plenty of time for
Speaker 1: me to try all this stuff out right. It's never
Speaker 1: too late, Kathy, It's never too late. Get up off
Speaker 1: the sofa and live, That's what I say. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 2: A much text my boyfriend, text my friend to be
Speaker 2: rescued mid bad day.
Speaker 1: Oh you're still going to play some more this game.
Speaker 1: I have done that. I have absolutely done. Have you drink?
Speaker 1: And you know what, Susan, Never have I ever had
Speaker 1: a boring conversation with you? Never have I ever, But
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink to it. All right? This was
Speaker 1: really so much fun. Thank you to all of our
Speaker 1: listeners for joining in today. We hope you learned a
Speaker 1: little bit more about us. I certainly learned a little
Speaker 1: bit more about Susan.
Speaker 2: Absolutely make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: As we have new episodes coming out every week and
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to miss them.
Speaker 1: You don't, uh and never have I ever said this before,
Speaker 1: not make sure to submit all of your questions to us.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com,
Speaker 1: slash Golden Hour, or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Happy Hour and listen to The Bachelor Happy Hours Golden
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Speaker 2: your podcast. And thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1: Until next time, have a good week.