1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: joining us. We're so excited to be back. I'm in 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: sunny Canada, Susan, how are you doing? 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: It's hot and humid here, but we did have a 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: gorgeous no human weekend here in Philadelphia, and. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: My got the weather in can I just say Texas. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: You know they say it's hotter than hell. That is 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Texas this time of year. Canada is gorgeous, windows open. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: It's like San Diego weather. And today we are going 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: to be answering more of the fan questions. 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Do tell I mean? 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: So here was the thing. We had to decide who 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: was going to be the hunter and who was going 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: to be trapped in the and you trapped in the chest. 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: And you know, Susan, I have claustrophobia. I don't like 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: it how and not to mention being locked in the 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: chest when it's one hundred and eight degrees. 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: I would have never gotten in never. 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Well, let me just say I wanted Keith to change 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: his will and he wasn't willing, but he did. Keith 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: is more claustrophobic than I am, so I agreed to 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: do it. And you did see I had a little 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: alcohol help in there. 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: So that's soll well sneaky, a little something. I said, Okay, 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: that's why she's there. But you said, why send a 36 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: man to do a woman's job? Kathy, I think you 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: got would have actually won had you been out there. 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't. First of all, walkie talkie sucked and he 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: was I'm just watching him. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: He was struggling and I I love Keith. The truth 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: is and I said it on the show. You have 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: to be a good you have to enunciate and speak slowly, 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and I did. It was so hot in there, I 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: cannot tell you. 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: He couldn't hear you. I mean he was going I 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Oh my god, You're not 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: going to make it. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: I know. And when I watched it back and saw 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Jess and Spencer, it was like, oh, well, where's the key? 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh put the key in? Okay, next job. You know, 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: Johonathan speaks up right when you're about to start the 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: challenge and he said, I have to pee. I'm like, what, 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: You're never gonna make it. 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: You're never could. It was a really fun challenge, but 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you it was at least for Keith 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: and me. It was a tough challenge. But again, all 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: the challenges were so much fun. Yes, okay, So. 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: Whisha and Sean did really well. 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: They did good. 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Of course Jess and her Man. I just love those two. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: How about their yoga day and they're so in love. 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Alicia, I thought they did really well. 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, it was fun. It was a fun activity. 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: I never thought for a minute that I was going 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: to be buried alive. You know. I had to get 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: back to you. 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: How about when Leah was crying, Like, when I see 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Jonathan again, I'm going to teach him. You hold the 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: girl that's crying. He was so cold I think that's 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: why you don't have a girlfriend. 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm gonna I love Leah and Jonathan, 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: but I have to defend Jonathan here. Okay, he did 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: not in my opinion, he did not want to send 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: out the wrong message. 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: She was crying, and when a woman cries, you hold her. 77 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Her. But well he did that rose ceremony. But that's 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: another story. I just think that he they have a friendship, 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and I just think he felt weird about it, But 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you do. 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: I think he was uncomfortable and he should have just 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: held her and said, it's okay, babe, it's okay. 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: Look out, Susan's coming for you. I'm going to teach 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: you something. 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: Jonathan, Kathy, when Sean told you to just I thought 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: he was going to say, zip it. I would have 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: lost my mind. 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: He's like, got it. I mean he's entitled. He's entitled. 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about politician Shaan, Like what was done. 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: About the Parliament of Paradise? I know, Wait, what can 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I have some cred here? Did you notice your girl 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: was not in the middle of this drama? I mean, honestly, 93 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm watching this going I'm going oh no, no, no, 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: stay away. Stay away, but I thought where you were 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: going I could I didn't understand on the show, and 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I didn't understand it watching it back. The guy was 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: politicking like crazy. 98 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: He should run, he should run for. 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: His father is a politician. So I'm watching this going 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: on and I'm like, I'm like, are you kidding me? 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: But here's the thing I have to say. When did 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: you hear me say two things? Because Kathy is honest. 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: When I said that Brian and Parison needed to leave, 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I really thought Keith and I were going home. I 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: really did. That's why I wore the beautiful white dress. 106 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I said. I bought that in case I got engaged. Right, 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm not getting engaged. I'm going home to wear the 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: white dress. But here's the thing. Parisa was so unhappy, 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: like you know, you remember when she goes to his 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: room in a prior episode and she was so worried 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: about the relationship and then so you know, I don't 112 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: think they were struggling, and I wanted them to go 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: home and find see if they had love at home 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: without about us. 115 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: Alicia talking with the girls, and she really had her 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: feelings hurt and she opened up. I think that was 117 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: the wisest thing she could have done, and she could 118 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: feel better afterwards, right yeah. 119 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: And then and then the other thing that I said, 120 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: I you know, when Sean came to talk to Keith 121 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and me and he said, well, we have one of 122 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: the strongest relationship with me. I looked him right now, 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I said, no, you don't. We'll wait. 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: Sean and Cat whoa cat showed me a different side 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: of Cat this week. I help me say, tell me, 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: First of all, I thought they were friends prior to 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: as well. She didn't act like she gave two hoots 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: about his friendship, let me tell you. 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't think it was good at all. 130 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: And because the money's involved, it's a whole new game. 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So let me just say my feelings on that. Okay. 132 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I have said from the beginning when they introduced the 133 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: money factor, I said, oh boy, here we go. You know, 134 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: love for money, which one's gonna win out? And my 135 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: my thought on this episode, if I had to, you know, 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: if I had to give the summation, it would be 137 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: it's it's starting to get real, it's and so some 138 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: people are there for love, and like Jonathan and Land. 139 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan comes right out and says it. He's there for 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the money, Keith and I had said on and it 141 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: was shown. I think last week we're not taking money 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: out of kid's hands. But you've got this thing now 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: where the people who are in love? I mean, I'm 144 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: sure you heard it when Jess and Spencer told each 145 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: other they're falling in love and Jess says, whoaa he's 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and Spencer says, oh, it's about you know, there's a 147 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: lot of money involved. And what does Jess say? Whoa 148 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: whoa whoa. We came here to find love, and that 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: to me, sunded up the whole episode. You can have 150 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: love and you can have my but if you don't 151 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: have love with the money, you're in trouble. 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: And it just said this would be a great start 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: for our future with the money, but if they don't, 154 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: they were fine. Now let's get down to the Rose ceremony. 155 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: First of all, Dale farting. I lost it. 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Listen. I love Dale. He can do anything he wants 157 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: and I'm still going to support him, don't care love. 158 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Him, and I was quite surprised. More so, not only 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: did Alicia and Sean they left on their own, but 160 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: the girl's reaction. 161 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: I have to interrupt, Okay, you did. I don't think 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: people picked up on this after they left with integrity 163 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: and we can talk about that. Did they really Jesse 164 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Palmer says, well, they were going home anyway. Yes, they 165 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: were voted off. They dits. We all okay, well no, 166 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: some other people said to me, do you think a 167 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: third couple would have gone? It's like, no, they were 168 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: the couple. 169 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: Go we're going home. But they did that before they 170 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: knew that. 171 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: They didn't know. The feeling I got was we know 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: we're going home, so we're gonna get out of here first. 173 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: But when Sean, when when Alicia says, let's leave with it, 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're leaving with integrity, and then he 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: pops off. Sean pops off and says, don't call me 176 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: when this one goes sideways. 177 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: I didn't have to be cocky. 178 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Well that's not right. 179 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: And person and Bresa and Brian they left with no ruse, 180 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: and then they showed the previews for next week. I 181 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: was dying. First of all. When Keith starts, I was like, what, 182 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: you're homesick, you want to go home. You're there for 183 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: a reason. Now it's a game. Now, okay, it's not 184 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: about love. You know, you have a friendship, and to 185 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: be perfectly honest with you, because you guys had such 186 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: a great friendship, I would have I assume he went 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: out last week as. 188 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Well, present tenth we have a great friendship. 189 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Yes, well sorry, you have a good friendship. But I 190 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: would have thought because of that, yous weren't a real 191 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: threat to them. Get it, but you guys are very smart. 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: They don't know if you're going to try to steal 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: the money or not. I assume that they would have 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: let you go instead. The Brian and the Parisa like 195 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: that was coming for a while, Well, that's it, Susan. 196 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: I think they had all the fun with Brian telling 197 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Bailey that whole thing, right, I think that was I 198 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: think Brian was going. 199 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: How about just saying, oh my gosh when he said 200 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: something about their future and she goes, I don't know 201 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: that I'm going to be ready to move right in 202 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: with you, and she went the whole. 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Night, she was so in love. 204 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: They were falling in lego. What did you tell say. 205 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, remember it's a show, 206 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's a truncated version. You know you don't 207 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: have months here to fall in love. So they say, 208 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: they're saying they're falling in love. Are you going to 209 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: move in with a guy you've known for whatever, a month, 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: six weeks. I don't think so. 211 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: No, no, So I think it was just going. I 212 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: respect you, that's all it is, Kathy, I do. 213 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: I hope that's all. Yeah. I'm just saying that's a 214 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of pressure as a mom or moths. Would you 215 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: want your daughter to move in with the guys she 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: met six weeks ago? I don't think so. 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: No, No, of course not. But no, I don't think 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: you're talking about the future. They're saying they've fallen in 219 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: love with each other. I think they are the sweetest 220 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: couple on the whole show. 221 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse me. 222 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: You're not a couple. 223 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: We're a friend couple. 224 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not a couple. You're friends and good friends. 225 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: But the show, to me, is about falling in love 226 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: right finding your partner. 227 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This show is about finding love and maybe 228 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: finding five hundred thousands. 229 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, twist in there, didn't they so I'd be really 230 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: interesting to see next week. 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: I think, well, you saw it next week. They hinted 232 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: they gave a teaser about camping. 233 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I boy, I can't wait. 234 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: You know my. 235 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Idea camping, Kathy is no phone in the room. 236 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to tell you I love to camp. 237 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I love I love tent camping. And I think people 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: would be surprised to hear that. Now you saw the 239 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: previous I'm camping in a very expensive silk dress. 240 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: But still, whit's the last time you camped. 241 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Caitlin, my daughter, her husband and I camped right before. 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: It's been like two years. Because sleeping bags I have, Susan, 243 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I have a tent. I have a sleeping bag. I 244 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: have a pad for the sleeping bag. I have cooking utensils. 245 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: I love it. 246 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: I bug spray, I love it. I'm telling you it's 247 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: like when I come home I need to delouse myself. Yes, 248 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: but I love camping. 249 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: You're not afraid. I just creatures out there. 250 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: You don't like it. 251 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: I told you my idea of camping is no phone 252 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: in the room. 253 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: You mean the hotel room. 254 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: In the room, period of time you want to put me. 255 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Wait, I thought when you said that, I heard tent. 256 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, you can leave your phone outside 257 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the tent. There is nothing as great as unzipping your 258 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: tent and looking up at the sky and the. 259 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: Stars, walk out the cabin door in the morning and 260 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: look at that same sky and be perfectly happy and 261 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: poop on a toilet cut out in the woods. 262 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Business Why you and I love each other like people 263 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: would not think. They probably would think you would camp 264 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: and not me. It's exactly the opposite vaccination, exactly. 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: All right, this was really good. Now I think we're 266 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: going to have to get into our advice portion of 267 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: this episode. I'll start us off. 268 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: With the question of the day. 269 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: When you've done something wrong, how can you decipher whether 270 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: coming clean is best for the person you hurt versus 271 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,359 Speaker 2: just trying to clear your own conscious? 272 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I have the answer for crazy. Yeah, well 273 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: we may disagree on this. Actually, for me, if I've 274 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: done something wrong and I think that apologize and first 275 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: of all is always right. But if I come clean 276 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: and it's going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean. 277 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come I'm going. 278 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: As best for the person that you hurt versus. 279 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm always that's right, I said, I'm always going 280 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: to come clean and apologize unless it's right, it's selective 281 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: coming clean if it's best for the person. I'm not 282 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: there to decide what is best for you. So if 283 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: I feel like coming clean is going to further hurt you, 284 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm not coming clean. I'm not even but with clear 285 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: my conscience. Well I cud, I said what I had 286 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: to say. I feel better now, uh uh huh huh, 287 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: not me? What about you? 288 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: I would definitely when I admit when I do something wrong, 289 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: when people, if somebody tells me, I. 290 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Why I do too? 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: But what if telling me but it's already said? You 292 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: can't take back what you've said? 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Right? No, but if if if you did something, said 294 00:15:54,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: something to me, and you've done something wrong and now 295 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: now and maybe not to me, maybe you've done something 296 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: wrong and you said some about my family or something, 297 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and you and in clearing your conscience and in apologizing, 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: you dig the hole deeper. Have you ever heard of 299 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: that happening? Like stop quit while you're ahead, Like I 300 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: get it, you're sorry, but now you're making it worse. 301 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: My conscience always feels better when I admit my fault. 302 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: And if I've hurt anybody, I'm sincerely sorry. 303 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so am I. But if clearing your conscience makes 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the other person feel worse, like you have to give 305 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: them more information, like, oh my god, Susan, I'm glad 306 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you feel better now that you've apologized. Now you've also 307 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: just told now you've made me feel worse. 308 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't feel better that I apologized. I feel better 309 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: whether it's accepted and things go back to normal, but 310 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: I would feel bad the entire time. I don't understand 311 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: how whether the question reads when you've done something wrong. 312 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: Can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the 313 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: person you've hurt or just to clear you. You seem 314 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: with always best, the truth will always set you free, 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: even if people are upset. 316 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: With We're going to handle that one in Stone. I 317 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is sometimes when you're not you, 318 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: but when one is apologizing and they have to give 319 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: more context to understand. You know, I'm sorry, Susan, but 320 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: here's what was going on. I'm making it up. You're 321 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: going to laugh like I'm sorry I did that, but 322 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: I was sleeping with Frederic at the time, And you 323 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's like, sometimes you can add 324 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: insult to the injury. So I think sometimes it's a 325 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: simple apology sometimes is better, and it's always You're exactly right, 326 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: it's always better to be honest. But I think sometimes 327 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: you don't need to add. Yeah, all the information could 328 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: agree on that. Okay, how about this. Let me give 329 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: you an example to help you understand where I'm coming from. 330 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Ok what if someone cheated on someone ten years ago? 331 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: They did it one time and then and now you know, 332 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: they told their partner, Like, is that worth hurting them 333 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: to say that they cheated? You should go to your greed? Oh, 334 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: but you just said the truth is I was the 335 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: best truth? Will say your break I've done. 336 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: But in a situation like you're saying, ten years ago, 337 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: he cheated and you cheated. 338 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: You cheated on your partner. Ten years later, you decide 339 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: to come clean and tell your partner, would it be 340 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: worth hurting them? No? Oh, but the truth set you're afraid. 341 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Sometimes the context makes it worse, 342 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: so you don't always come but it might make you 343 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: feel better. Your own conscience might feel better. 344 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: Oh it's your own guilt. Yes, yes, yes, it wouldn't 345 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: benefit that, So. 346 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So sometimes it's better to keep 347 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: your mouth, not your you know what I'm saying. Yes, yes, 348 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I agree. However, if I'm cheating on someone, it's not 349 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: gonna be once in ten years. You're not going to 350 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: cheat you right off, let's start those fan quests. Let's 351 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: we're going to get into these fan of questions. I'm 352 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: going to start us off at the first one. This 353 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: one is from anonymous. Hi, ladies, I'm in a tough 354 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: spot and could really use some help. This past weekend, 355 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: I went out with my friends to a club. The 356 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: next morning, one of the girls sat me down and 357 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: told me I made out with a guy towards the 358 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: end of the night and gave him my phone number. 359 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm currently in a four month relationship and I'm panicking. 360 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Do I tell him and apologize? My group is split. 361 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Half think I should, the other half think it'll do 362 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: more harm than good. 363 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: What do I do? Thanks, ladies? First of all, she 364 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: don't remember how you. 365 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: First of all, are you well where I was called? 366 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: First of all, she doesn't remember because I'm going to 367 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: go with she was drunk, And what do I always say? 368 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: Being drunk is never an excuse for bad behavior. So girlfriend, yeah, 369 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: drank too much? Now you got a problem. 370 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: See now, it's too many people know, because if you 371 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: decide to keep your mouth shut, then somebody else might 372 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: tell him. I would try would you do that? I 373 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe just say, babe, I got so drunk. 374 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: I think I kissed somebody. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Well, 375 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 2: first of all, a fourth she doesn't remember doing it. 376 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, and like I said, drinking is not 377 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: an excuse for bad behavior. But what would you do? 378 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: What would you do? I know what I would do. 379 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: You would zip it? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 380 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: I wouldn't I tell him the truth? Yeah, like I said, no. 381 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: You just said zip it? Which is it? You can't 382 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: tell him? 383 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: But if I didn't remember doing it, I'd have to 384 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: tell him. My friends told me I kissed somebody last night, 385 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: and I don't remember doing it. 386 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, whether there are two or more in 387 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: his name, there's gossip, so he's going to find out. 388 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: So you might as well come clean. But I would 389 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: come clean because that's who I am. And I would 390 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: say I remember doing it. I would say John, I 391 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: am so sorry my future guys. John, Is there John 392 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: out there who wants me? I would say, John, I'm 393 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: so sorry, here's the deal. 394 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: This is what happened. 395 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: I got drunk and there's no excuse for that. I 396 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: got drunk and I didn't know. Told this morning when 397 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: Susan told me that I made out with a guy, 398 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: it's bad favor. And you know what, John, I think 399 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I need to stop drinking because I have no memory 400 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: of it. I want to go forward with you. I 401 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: hope you will forgive me. And if he says I'm 402 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: out of here, you know what you learned really quickly. 403 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: There you go. 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't drink anymore. I've never been black out drunk. 405 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Have you wait? Have I ever been black eyed drunk? 406 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Maybe once you didn't remember anything? No, but I mean 407 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: I don't remember, so maybe you know. I don't drink 408 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: to the point of getting drunk because I subscribe. I 409 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: take my own advice. You get drunk. There is no excuse. 410 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: You cannot say. I cannot say to you, Susan, I'm 411 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: so sorry. I got really drunk. What did I h 412 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: That's not an excuse. So I don't know if I've 413 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: been black eyed drunk. I don't think so. A lot 414 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: of people use it. Yeah, well stop using it. That's 415 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: my advice. 416 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 2: We got a second question, Susan, I need to know 417 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: if you think I'm overreacting. I just found out that 418 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: my boyfriend of three years completely lied to me about 419 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: how we met. Oh boy, and I feel so weird. Basically, 420 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: his best friend slipped up while we were at this 421 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: weekend and said, I'm so glad you two are together. 422 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Seeing him be so into you for so long and 423 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: not go for it for over a year was agonizing, like, 424 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: look at what he would have missed out on. I 425 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: was confused because when my boyfriend and I met, we 426 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: struck up conversation in the library at our college, and 427 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: I have always believed he met me or knew of 428 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: me for the first time. That day, after pressing his 429 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: best friend for more details, he told me that he 430 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: met me at a party freshman year and was crushing 431 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: on me from Afar for an entire year before we met. 432 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: His best friend apologized profusely and said he assumed I 433 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 2: knew that was the deal. Now I feel really icky 434 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: that he lied and was crushing on me from Afar. 435 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. It makes me feel weird and I 436 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: haven't mentioned it to my boyfriend yet. Any ideas and 437 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: what to do next? Thanks? Lady, Yes that I have 438 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: an idea. Stop that is like a compliment, you idiot. 439 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking. I'm reading this going this 440 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: girl is under the age of twenty five. I'm like, yeah, 441 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the blankety blank over it? 442 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: Whois like me for that long? 443 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: And you finally asked me where can I find a guy? 444 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: God? I mean seriously, this is youth at its best. 445 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: All right here, you obviously listen to our podcast. Listen 446 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: to me now, thank the guy the best friend for 447 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: telling you that, and your heart should just be panning 448 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: right now. Who cares? 449 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry, I'm going to a whole different level 450 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: where if he told you I didn't care. You're with 451 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: the guy for three years, you're happy? What is wrong 452 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: with you? What is wrong with youth of today? I'm 453 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: sorry for thinking. 454 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: It's not thinking at all. That's a problem, sweetheart. It's 455 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: a blessing. It's a blessing. Just think about it. He 456 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: has been admiring you for a year and he didn't 457 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: have the courage to come up to you for a 458 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: whole year. 459 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Blessing, and you're thinking it's weird. What is weird about that? She? 460 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: You know what this girl probably thinks it's weird of 461 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: if he sends her flowers. Honey, whoever you are, you 462 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: need to get over this. You met him makes her 463 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: get over it. 464 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: That is a compliment above all. 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen him into you for so wait 466 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: and agonizing. I was confused because when my boyfriend I met, 467 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: we struck up a car. You know what was incredible? 468 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: He in a backup, sweetheart, not you, sweetheart, sweetheart Anonymous. 469 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: I am so sorry that you met this guy in 470 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: the library at college, had this great conversation. You were 471 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: attracted to each other. You met that day, stars in 472 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: the sky. It was like love at first sight. Sucks 473 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: to be you get. 474 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: What if that's your biggest problem? You are blessed, young lady. 475 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry that may be out't know where 476 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: it came from. This is the strangest question we have 477 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: ever had. I love you, and I'm so glad that 478 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: you are in love with this guy and have a 479 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: boyfriend of three years. 480 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Don't worry how you met brace him for this, embrace. 481 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Think how lucky you are, Kathy. 482 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we both feel the same way. But what 483 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: if what if he studied her in a way and 484 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: he knew things about her, and he was trying to 485 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: impress her, but he already knew. 486 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: It was almost like a stalk kind of Okay, now 487 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: you've just gone from Anonymous enjoy it to creep. I'm 488 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: with you, Anonymous. 489 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: If that's the case, that's weird. That And again here 490 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: I am and this positive thinker. I would think, Oh, 491 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: how sweet he wanted to get to know what I 492 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: like so he could Yeah. 493 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, whoa no. If I'm 494 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: going down to your example, if in fact he knew 495 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: her favorite flowers and he knew where she went to 496 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: a bar, and so all of a sudden he's showing up, 497 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, she starts thinking back on the last I 498 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: saw or whatever this one. Yeah, now it's stalker ish. 499 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Now it's weird. Now I don't like it. So Anonymous, 500 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: if that's the case, I apologize. Maybe it's weird. I 501 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: think what you have to do, Anonymous, is reevaluate how 502 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: he's treated you, are the things he knew or is 503 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: it just it wasn't the happenstance meeting that you thought 504 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: it was. The Other thing I will say is if 505 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: you met him in freshman year and you don't remember it, 506 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: you clearly have too many guys chasing after you, so 507 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: you might think about that. 508 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: I still think it was a compliment. But if it 509 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: were the other case. 510 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I can understand that. 511 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: But then so she you know, obviously cluing something. 512 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: Get over it. Three years. I'm sorry, it's three years. 513 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: Something's working. Don't let look at a gift horse in 514 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: the map. 515 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you know what if he if he's 516 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: sending you flowers and and he's you know, he watched 517 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: you shop for flowers and you bunch of the same 518 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: ones ten times, say thank you, Oh thanks for writing 519 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: in that. We enjoyed that one. 520 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: Alrighty Kat. Today we're gonna play never. 521 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: Since his favorite, Never My Ever. 522 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: Kathy and I are going to switch off saying things 523 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: we've never done. I think I'm finally getting this game. 524 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: I swear if the other person has done it, they 525 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: put a finger down or drink wine. Right, the first 526 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: person with five fingers loses. 527 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll start us off. 528 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh this is different. 529 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just drinking, Susan, you put your fingers down. 530 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going to be drinking. It's easier, all right, 531 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: go ahead, start all right. 532 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: First thing I've never slipped with my boss to get ahead. 533 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm not drinking. I have never so no or lied 534 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: to get ahead. No, we're not. Okay, we're gonna be 535 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: boring at this cat. We're gonna be boring. It's all 536 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: get up, all right, here's my first one. Never have 537 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I ever dated a man that one of my friends 538 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: dated first? 539 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I had that one too. 540 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Have you done that? 541 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: No? 542 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Have you done it? Hell Susan, we gotta get some drinking. 543 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: Your turn. 544 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: Never have I ever been on Dancing with the Stars, 545 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: but I hope it happens this year. 546 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: We can't drink to that one either, because you haven't. 547 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: All right. 548 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: Never have I ever disrespected and older or in Catholic 549 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: school and none or a priest. 550 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: I was scared to death. I've never disrespected well. First 551 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: of all, I never went to Catholic school. So I'm 552 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: just gonna have a drink because you know, cheers to confession. 553 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm drinking. Didn't go to Catholic school. Okay, I can't 554 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: say this one because I did. It's my turn, it's 555 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: my drink. You can't do the ball. Never have I 556 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: ever sent to a spicy selfie? Don't license and drink up? 557 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Uh huh. There she is drinking up. I have. Why 558 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: am I not surprised with your boyfriend? I mean I haven't. 559 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: I never do with my husband ever. 560 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: Okay, never have I ever? 561 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh yes I have. Okay, I'll give an easy one. 562 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Never have I ever stolen anything from a store. 563 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: I stole pack sears when I was fourteen years old. 564 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: You know what I just remembered. I stole a pack 565 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: of gum once when I was young. Oh god, I 566 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: have to take two SIPs now. I forgot and you 567 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: just said that. 568 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't get caught that, Kathy. Never have I 569 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: ever farted and blamed it on someone else. 570 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: You just Susan. You're supposed to be saying one, but 571 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: I never gone. You just want to drink. Here's one 572 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: for you. Never have I ever let a man take 573 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: me shopping and then let him pay the bill? Oh god, 574 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: are you drinking? No? 575 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: But I take men shopping and I pay the bill. 576 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: You no, seriously. 577 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: No, Wait, I want to back up, and then I 578 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: want you to take two SIPs of wine. You have 579 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: taken men shopping and you've paid the bill. 580 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: I've bought stuff for them. Yeah, uh huh, Okay, Colin's 581 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: taking me shopping and paying the bill. They'd be scared. 582 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm just stunned. Why am I not actually stunned? Susan 583 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: likes people to dress a certain way, and apparently Susan's 584 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: now willing to pay the drice she's gonna dress. Oh 585 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: my god. Okay. 586 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: Never have I ever jumped out of an airplane? 587 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: I have not either, but I'd like to. That's how 588 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: I was on my bucket list when I went on 589 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. That was one of things I wanted to do, 590 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: was jump out of the airplane. Yes, bucket, and I 591 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: didn't nor Its solicious for a recap of Golden bats Or. 592 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: Kathy never had a one on one date, she never 593 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: got a gift, and she never jumped out of an airplane. Okay, 594 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: moving on. Never have I ever paid the entire bill 595 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: went on a first date with a guy? Oh god, 596 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: you're drinking again. Go for it, drinking. You have paid 597 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: the entire bill on a first date with a guy, 598 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: A freaking lutely. You know why? 599 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: If I knew I was never going to see them again, 600 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: it helped me not. 601 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Feel so guilty. So I a bill. 602 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: I paid the whole thing. 603 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, I should. 604 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: Have been a guy. 605 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: I think. I think so, I've got a great guy. 606 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: Can't have you ever text said the text? 607 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: Ever? I did it? 608 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: So I then you can't say it. 609 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: These are things you've never done. 610 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: This is why I hate this game. 611 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 1: You never have never that's because you've done a lot 612 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: of things. All right, I got another one. Never have 613 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: I ever snuck into a movie? Sorry, snuck into more 614 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: than one movie? Would only pain for one movie. 615 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 3: In other words, you've done that too, Susan, Go do 616 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: the next one. 617 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: Wait? Can I just say I would just like to 618 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: point out something here. Kathy who gets ripped on the 619 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: internet lives a clean I don't swear at the nuns 620 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: that I don't know. I don't know that. That's what 621 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't do any of this stuff. I 622 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: don't do anything bad. And there's miss Susan. 623 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: Over here, such a rule follower. 624 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: It's working for me. Fun to bend the rules. Bend 625 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: the rules, Susan breaks them in half and then breaks 626 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: them in half. 627 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: Or have I ever got pulled over for speeding and 628 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: actually got a ticket. 629 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: I've never been pulled over for speeding, of course not. 630 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: I've never had a ticket. 631 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 2: Worry because you don't speed. 632 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: Either, right? Wait? Can I tell you a funny story? 633 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Can I? Oh? I do speed? A funny story. When 634 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: I was doing my global entry, you know, you have 635 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: to go and be interviewed by people before they let 636 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: you get your global untery. The guy comes out to 637 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: interview me and he goes, are you for real? I said, what? 638 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: He goes, you have nothing? He said this, I've never 639 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: he said, I've been doing this, you know, interviewing people. 640 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: You are the first person you've never had a parking ticket. 641 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I said, I know. He goes, No, we don't get 642 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: people like that. I said, I know. Can I my 643 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: global entry now, Kathy? 644 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: When we were being screened and everything to be on 645 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: the show and the Golden Bacheler, same thing he had 646 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: said to me, Oh, there's two things. I actually paid 647 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: money online to see what my criminal record was and 648 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 2: it was an outstanding parking ticket. 649 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: You you, I'm sorry it was a dollar you you 650 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: researched your. 651 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 2: Criminal back because it said I had two things griminal 652 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: and there were both tickets. One I never paid. I 653 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 2: didn't know I had it. 654 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I got to tell you when my husband, 655 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: who did have several speed tickets and in the state 656 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: of Texas, I'm just gonna blow blow everyone's mind here 657 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: you can pay a lawyer who walks into the court 658 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: with a stack of tickets and gets you off the ticket. Yes, 659 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: welcome to Welcome to the rough shot, Texas, where laws 660 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: are just suggestions. But my husband was driving once and 661 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: was speeding and I was panicked because he was going 662 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: so fast because he wanted to get to wherever we 663 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: were going. I said, I hope you get pulled over. 664 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the cop to give you a ticket. 665 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: I swear to God, Susan I hear, I hear comes down. 666 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: He looked at me like, I'm like, I. 667 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: You know, And I looked at the cop said would 668 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: I tell you about thoughts? 669 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: And the cop gave him a ticket? But I probably 670 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: got you up. He did, And you know what I 671 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: said to him, Oh big deal, you got that lawyer friendly. 672 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: You're just paying three hundred bucks and it doesn't go 673 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: on your record. Get over yourself, true story, all right? 674 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: When else you got there for me? 675 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: Oh? 676 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 2: I don't know, did you ever? 677 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: Wait? 678 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: I did do this too, this to the wrong person. 679 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: About that person that I have done, Yes, never have 680 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I ever left a restaurant without paying? You ever done that? No? Oh? Well, 681 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: good god. Here, I'm just checking your moral moral compass there. 682 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: Never have I ever dated more than one guy at 683 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: a time. Oh my god, she's thinking, I don't. 684 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: Know, well, like in a relationship. 685 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: No, but oh here meeting looking full the Susan's looking 686 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: for the gray aread. 687 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: No, when you're on the dating apps and you see 688 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: one one night and the next week you've met somebody else, 689 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: that's not really dating. 690 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: No. I don't do two times. So if you've had 691 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: more than one date with a guy, you know I have. Hey, Frederic, 692 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: listen up, buddy, she's got a guy. 693 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: Because we were broken up for well over a year 694 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: and we saw each other again. What now When I 695 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: was dating Mark, remember for two years and then we 696 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: broke up over a year, we didn't talk and then yeah, 697 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: we got together again. But I had been No, I 698 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 2: wasn't really dating anybody else. 699 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: Let me just say, do you hear? I want everyone 700 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: to pay attention. You're hearing Susan going, well, I don't remember, 701 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: never have I ever Susan would never have a drink again, 702 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: because Susan has done most things in life and I 703 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: am proud of you. Girlfriend. You're living the life that 704 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: I have never lived. 705 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: It's called experience. That's what made me who I am today. 706 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of experiences. 707 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: Crochane, experience, Kathy, you were still wet behind the ears. 708 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: You got married and moved to Brazil. I mean, God's 709 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: I moved to Scotland. Scotland not even the same continent, 710 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: may I. 711 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 2: But probably about to reach on our podcast with Teresa 712 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: and her saying she was a star of the play. 713 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: And where is she coming from? 714 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, just made me think of it. Scotland, Berlin, 715 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: whatever I thought. 716 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: I know. I'm surprised to find out she lived in 717 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Berlin when she was first married, because I lived in 718 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: Scotland when I was. 719 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: First Have I ever told someone that I loved them 720 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: and didn't mean it? 721 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: I've done that. Does that mean I have to drink 722 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: drink Oka's damn? 723 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: Get me? 724 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what these old Reddit fingers, You've never 725 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: done that? No, No, you know me. 726 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: I fall in love easy. 727 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: Oh oh wait a minute, so let me get this right. 728 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: I've told guys that I loved him once or twice 729 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: when I didn't you tell every guy, you love him 730 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: and mean it. Okay, you'll mean it for ten minutes. 731 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Is this when I'm married? No, I was not proud 732 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: of my Actually I only did it once and I 733 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: felt terrible about it. 734 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: You know you were uncomfortable. You wanted him to feel better. 735 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I think you know. I think 736 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: I was nervous in the moment like I was. Yeah, 737 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: we did it for a while and I wasn't ready 738 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: to let him go, but I wasn't. 739 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: Any Have you ever told someone that you are in 740 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: love with them and they didn't say it back? Yes, 741 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: one time that ikey feeling. 742 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: It was and I will say I am still friends 743 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: with that guy today. It was the ickiest feeling on 744 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: the mind. 745 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: Was like a week before Christmas and night it was 746 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: the moment and I said it, and I know he 747 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: loved me. I knew he did. And he said thank you, 748 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, what Kathy it? Thank you everything? 749 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: And then New Year's Eve at midnight, he tells me 750 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: he loves me. Little did he know he blew it. 751 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: I hated him for making me feel like that, and 752 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: he said I would have told you that night, but 753 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 2: I wanted to do it at mean I go, you're 754 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: fucking weird. Okay, is this. 755 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: Story is getting way too convoluted for me? He said 756 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: thank you, but he did love you, but he didn't 757 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: tell you. Yes, yes, this is why? Wait? Can I 758 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: just say to you this is This is the kind 759 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: of experiences that I hope our listeners write in. Has 760 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: this ever happened to you? Did you ever tell someone 761 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: you loved them and not mean it? Did you? Do 762 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: you think it's weird that this guy didn't tell Susan Like, 763 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: I think that's weird. 764 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: Two weeks, two and a half weeks later you counting 765 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: the weeks, Kathy, it changed me inside? You don't know, 766 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: because you didn't love him anymore. No, I still loved him, 767 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: but no, everything was different after that. 768 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: Why it was? I really know? With a ball in 769 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: left field here. 770 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: Can you give me a definition for narcissists? 771 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes? In my opinion, a narcissist is a person who 772 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: only thinks of themselves. Everything there, it's it's ego center. 773 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: Everything revolves around them. Implications are only how they feel, 774 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: how something reacts to them, how they can make it 775 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: best for themselves without any regard to someone else, or 776 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: how it affects someone else. That's that for a definition. 777 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I wonder you were success at 778 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: this game or we sucked at it? 779 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, I think the conclusion is Susan has done most 780 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: everything and lived an incredible life, and Kathy is still 781 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: nit one pearl one knit one pearl one. But I 782 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: you know what, here's the good news. We are Golden 783 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: age is just number. We got plenty of time for 784 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: me to try all this stuff out right. It's never 785 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: too late, Kathy, It's never too late. Get up off 786 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: the sofa and live, That's what I say. All right, 787 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: here we go. 788 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: A much text my boyfriend, text my friend to be 789 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: rescued mid bad day. 790 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: Oh you're still going to play some more this game. 791 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: I have done that. I have absolutely done. Have you drink? 792 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: And you know what, Susan, Never have I ever had 793 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: a boring conversation with you? Never have I ever, But 794 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to drink to it. All right? This was 795 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: really so much fun. Thank you to all of our 796 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: listeners for joining in today. We hope you learned a 797 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: little bit more about us. 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