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Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds podcast. Exciting guest

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Speaker 3: today Shane Baker with Marty Jerts and Marty one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Four time PGA Tour winner Harris English, is awesome

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you having me. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Are you a podcast guy, Harris? Are you into it?

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Speaker 3: Do you listen to them?

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Speaker 1: Or I do a little bit. Not a whole lot

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Speaker 3: What are you into right now?

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Speaker 1: The Human podcast? The Stanford Professor. Yeah, just kind of

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Speaker 2: One of those, Harris is your putter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Harris, You're one of those guys that when we

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Speaker 3: It's like Harris and Tony is like the exactly tell

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Speaker 1: wanted to look like my other wedges. Yeah, I've never

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Speaker 1: really done well with like a set pitching wedge. I

438
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 1: don't know why. I chiple out with my pitching wedge

439
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 1: A hill, a lot of bumping around, Yeah, long bunker shots.

440
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Speaker 1: I feel like it has more playability. I don't know.

441
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm one of the few, but

442
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Speaker 1: I've kind of always gravitated towards playing a pitching wedge

443
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Speaker 1: like my other wedges.

444
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's same for me too. It's like the shots

445
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Speaker 3: around the green. It just, I mean, it looked when

446
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 3: you look down at it, it looks like you're fifty.

447
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Speaker 2: You know.

448
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Speaker 3: It's just so much easier, and I feel like you're

449
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Speaker 3: more confident pulling that club out and going with it.

450
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Speaker 3: So I'm with it. Can we go back to twenty

451
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Speaker 3: eleven for a minute, because obviously twenty twenty four we've

452
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Speaker 3: seen Ammeter win on the PGA Tour. You won on

453
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Speaker 3: the corn Ferry Tours an amateur. What point during that

454
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Speaker 3: week did you think you actually might win the golf tournament.

455
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Speaker 1: That was a wild week. I just won the Southern

456
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Speaker 1: Amateur the week before. I was playing really well, and

457
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Speaker 1: that was one of the events where if you're an

458
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Speaker 1: All American, I think I was a second team All American.

459
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Speaker 1: I got in the tournament at how To State. But

460
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Speaker 1: it was a weird week, like I was paired with

461
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Speaker 1: Peter Eulin and Bank. I'm I'm gonna butcher his last name,

462
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: Arnan von Vonage. I think you know we caught him Bank.

463
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Speaker 1: So I played with two amateurs the first two days

464
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Speaker 1: and then I played with John Peterson I think the

465
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Speaker 1: third day at the time, and I think before the

466
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Speaker 1: last day. It was the only time ever I played

467
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Speaker 1: with the pro. I played with John Peterson as well,

468
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Speaker 1: so so to me, it just it was a comfort zone,

469
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Speaker 1: like I played with all my buddies that I played

470
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Speaker 1: with for a long time. It was weird, like it

471
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Speaker 1: was just I felt like I was just battling out

472
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Speaker 1: with John Peterson. The whole time, and just like our

473
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Speaker 1: college days, and uh, it was a strange week, like

474
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Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a pro event to me, Like

475
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Speaker 1: I wasn't playing for money. I was out there trying

476
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Speaker 1: to make the Walker Cup team later that year, just

477
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Speaker 1: trying to do the best I can, and it was

478
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Speaker 1: such a comfort zone for me, and on top of

479
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 1: that playing some of the best golf of my life.

480
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Speaker 1: So uh, it was awesome being the mix and unfortunate

481
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: John Peterson made Bogiel on eighteen, I made birdie to

482
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Speaker 1: get the win. But it was an awesome week and

483
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Speaker 1: really jumped start in my career.

484
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Speaker 3: Were you are you surprised that it took so long

485
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Speaker 3: for an ameterur went on the PGA Tour. Obviously we

486
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Speaker 3: had it happened in twenty twenty four, but I mean

487
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Speaker 3: you go back to ninety two with Phil Mickelson winning

488
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Speaker 3: as an amateur. I mean, we've seen amateurs getting contention

489
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Speaker 3: even a major championships, think about the Open Championship a

490
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Speaker 3: few years ago with St. Andrew's. But it felt like

491
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Speaker 3: as good as these amateur players are and as many

492
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Speaker 3: many experiences they're getting in pro events and being on camera,

493
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Speaker 3: you feel like that comfort level is going to get

494
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Speaker 3: there at some point. Did it surprise you that it

495
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Speaker 3: took this long ninety two to twenty four to see

496
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Speaker 3: an ameter win on the PGA Tour?

497
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Speaker 1: It actually has, Yeah, especially with the guys. I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: Speeth was probably pretty close to Scotti. Scheffler got in

499
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Speaker 1: a number of events. I know it's a different level

500
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Speaker 1: of pressure when you're an amateur compared to a pro,

501
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Speaker 1: but yeah, it has surprised me that it hasn't been

502
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Speaker 1: ticked off before now and you could see it happen

503
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Speaker 1: more often and some of these smaller not smaller fields

504
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: but not a big name turn out signature events, signature events.

505
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was awesome to see. I think the

506
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: whole world was pulling on Nick Dunlapp to do it.

507
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Speaker 1: It was awesome to see, great for golf and just

508
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: shows how good these kids in college are. I mean,

509
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Speaker 1: that's that's how it's been for a while. I mean,

510
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: these kids are ready to play. I mean the facilities

511
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Speaker 1: in college, the training these guys are doing, and they

512
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Speaker 1: are coming out thinking they can compete, and they can

513
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Speaker 1: and they're great players. And I think you'll see it

514
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Speaker 1: more often. I don't know if you'll see it every year,

515
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Speaker 1: but I think more guys are amateurs are probably gonna

516
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Speaker 1: get some starts in the PGA Tour, and they got

517
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Speaker 1: a great chance to pull it off.

518
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Speaker 3: I think being on TV helps too. I mean, I

519
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Speaker 3: just feel like when you're kind of going through some

520
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 3: of the things that Amber Golfer has obviously improved since

521
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Speaker 3: you were a college golfer and aer golfer facilities are great,

522
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: travel is great, but having cameras on you, having crowds around,

523
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: like that's becoming more popular in amateur golf. You're seeing

524
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Speaker 3: collegiate events on TV a lot more. And when you're

525
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Speaker 3: more comfortable in that scenario, and then you get to

526
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Speaker 3: the PGA Tour, it's not such a jump. It's not

527
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: such a big jump. You go out and shoot sixty

528
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Speaker 3: five sixty five Thursday Friday at a PJ door VN

529
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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, cameras areun for the first time,

530
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Speaker 3: and you're like, what do I do? You know, do

531
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: I walk weird? Do I do these types of things? Well,

532
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about that anymore when you're

533
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Speaker 3: on TV five six, seven times a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I was in college, we were never

535
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Speaker 1: on TV, and I think that's why they went to

536
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Speaker 1: the match play to be able to get college golf

537
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Speaker 1: on TV. And it's awesome to watch it on the

538
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Speaker 1: Golf Channel. I love watching college golf on TV. And yeah,

539
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: you're to your point. I mean, if they're more comfortable

540
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: those scenarios in college, they're going to be more comfortab

541
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Speaker 1: when they get the tour and it's not gonna be

542
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: that much different. So it's awesome to see and it

543
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: just shows where college golf is now. And people may

544
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Speaker 1: think the average golf in probably doesn't watch a whole

545
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Speaker 1: lot of college golf or amateur golf, but these guys

546
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Speaker 1: are really good and they need to tune in more

547
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Speaker 1: to the US Amateur, to the Walker Cup, to these

548
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Speaker 1: big time college events because these kids are coming on

549
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Speaker 1: the PGA Tour and they're going to be the stars

550
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Speaker 1: here in a few years.

551
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened so fast, Marty. I mean, I

552
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Speaker 3: think that's what's been so surprising these last few years

553
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: is kind of going back to twenty nineteen. You think

554
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Speaker 3: about that group that crop jumping off and you got

555
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, Victor obviously played so well at that US

556
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: Amateur at Pebble and Justin so was number amateur in

557
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Speaker 3: the world. It's like all these guys come up at

558
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: the same time and they win, you know, and they

559
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: can tend and they play well, and obviously you're seeing

560
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: it now. Ludwig had obviously a great season. I mean,

561
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: add c wins on the corn Ferry Tour in his

562
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: first start. It almost feels like they're itching to get

563
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: out there, you know. And how much different do you

564
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Speaker 3: see the amateur golfer now versus when you turn pro?

565
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: Like what's is it?

566
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Speaker 2: Is?

567
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Speaker 3: It drastically different in terms of how they are right

568
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Speaker 3: out of the gate.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're just a more complete player. I mean,

570
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing I've seen is these kids now hit

571
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Speaker 1: it so far. Yeah, I mean I remember coming out

572
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: my first couple of years, I felt like I was

573
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Speaker 1: one of the longest on the PGA Tour. And really

574
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Speaker 1: my numbers have stayed the same, and like every year

575
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Speaker 1: I just keep dropping back and driving goes down. I

576
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Speaker 1: think I was like top fifteen maybe my first year

577
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: on tour, and I felt like my numbers have stayed

578
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: the same. And I don't know what I am now,

579
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: but I'm probably past fiftieth and these kids hit it long,

580
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: hit it straight, They're not scared. They're hitting driver more often.

581
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Speaker 1: We didn't have all these stats coming out right on

582
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Speaker 1: about how to play certain holes, how to be aggressive,

583
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Speaker 1: how to make birdie.

584
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Speaker 3: Do you dive into that stuff, like do you look

585
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: at that stuff as well? Bit?

586
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Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's more of a comfort level too,

587
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Speaker 1: Like now I've played these golf courses for twelve years,

588
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: like I kind of know the blueprint for each course

589
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and what suits my game. I'm not going to hit

590
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Speaker 1: drivers somewhere where I'm not comfortable with it. I mean,

591
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like the strength of my game is

592
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of my mid iron, So I'm not scared to

593
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: lay back and hit it in the fairway and then

594
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: access a pen with an eight iron or seven iron.

595
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a great part of my game.

596
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, these these kids, they hit it long.

597
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: They kind of grew up on the track man, and

598
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: they know how to optimize all that stuff. And the

599
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: training programs have gotten to be incredible. I know you've

600
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Speaker 1: kind of done some of that speedstick. Yeah, but yeah,

601
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Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't grow up with that. We didn't

602
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: really know how to do that. I been growing up

603
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: for me with the ballata ball, the professional ball, like

604
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: we never hit up on it. I kind of teed

605
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: it low and launched it low, and.

606
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Speaker 3: It was the one that started like an airplane. Yeah,

607
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: it's low and then awesome, awesome to see. But now

608
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: now these guys are launching it so high with no

609
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: spend and hitting it forever, and it's just the game

610
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: has changed so much in the past ten to twelve years.

611
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think also there is like that, you know players,

612
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: you see them bringing their foreside or what have you

613
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: on the course or measuring every single shot, you know,

614
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: so you're getting the feedback every time. Have you felt

615
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: the pressure to increase your own distance or you have

616
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: you stayed kind of immune to that and hey you

617
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: are still a long hitter and just do your own thing.

618
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather do it in like the workout trailer

619
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: of the training room. Yeah, and not really mess with

620
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: my swing too much, because I know you can kind

621
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: of go too much. I've heard of guys doing a

622
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of that speed six training and maybe it messes

623
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: up their seven or messes up there wedge. Like it'd

624
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: be cool to get fifteen extra yards off the tee.

625
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: But if it diminishes some of the other parts of

626
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: my game that are very good, then I don't really

627
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: see the benefit of that. But I'd rather do it

628
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: in the in the workout room, working on my body,

629
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: trying to do some more ballistic stuff, speed stuff in there, yeah,

630
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: to then hopefully help that translate to my game.

631
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Speaker 2: At this point, have you are you trying to maintain

632
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: or you feel a little pressure to gain some ball speed?

633
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I maintain right now, but I mean, yeah, it wouldn't

634
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: hurt now. I mean, this past offseason was my first

635
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: off season really in golfing twelve or thirteen years in college,

636
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: so I feel like I used it wisely to gain

637
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: some strength, gain a little speed, and during the season

638
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: you're just trying to maintain. For me, I mean, the

639
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: most I'm going to take off this year is probably

640
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: two weeks at a time, so it's really hard to

641
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: do a whole lot of that stuff in your off weeks.

642
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about your driver hairs G four to thirty LST.

643
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: For a long time you play the G four hundred.

644
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, the sound I mean when they when Pin

645
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: came out with the G four hundred that was probably

646
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: my favorite driver I've ever played. The sound for us,

647
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: the sound, the feel, the look, I mean, all of

648
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: it are mixed in together. And even now, like hitting

649
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: that G four thirty, I'll have people like turn their

650
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: heads like, man, that sounds really good. Yeah, and it's

651
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: hard to hard to replicate that. And I think for

652
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: me personally, the G four thirty is a great answer

653
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: to the G four hundred for for me of the sound,

654
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: the feel, what I'm looking for in the flight, It's

655
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: been amazing. I've tried the ten k a little bit,

656
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: which is awesome. The missits are incredible. Yeah, definitely a

657
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: little bit of getting used to swinging a little bigger head.

658
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: You can feel it more in the swing. But man,

659
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean that G four thirty line is awesome.

660
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the LST with the composite on there gets

661
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: the acoustics a little bit deeper, and that's that's what

662
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: you're kind of one that was very important to right, Yeah.

663
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like a lot more of those

664
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: heads sounded that way when I was younger, The G two,

665
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: the G five like had that deeper sound to it,

666
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: not the tingy yep, I don't know it for uh,

667
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes such a difference, and I don't

668
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: know what it is, but when we practice so much,

669
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: when we play so much, you get used to certain sounds,

670
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: and I know, sound and feel correlate so much. They

671
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: might not in the world you're in, but for us,

672
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: sound and feel or correlated a lot.

673
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: Actually, I think this is an experiment. Any the listener

674
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: can do is put on and so many kids now

675
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: practice with headphones on, and that you know, you could

676
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: put noise canceling headphones on and hit a bunch of

677
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: different putters and you can't tell the difference in the field.

678
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: So it's almost you know, you could argue it's one

679
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: hundred percent sound is the feel you get, especially off

680
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: a putter.

681
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: Is practicing with I think we've talked a little bit

682
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: about this, but it's practicing with headphones a bad thing

683
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: to do, in your opinion.

684
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think, so you don't that I don't.

685
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: If I'm doing like a human human Mian podcast, I'm

686
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: kind of having it on very low volume if I'm

687
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: chipping or something, so you can still get that, you know,

688
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: get get that acoustic feedback, but you don't have you

689
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: do a big the big one. No, I'm not doing

690
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: that at all.

691
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really put the air pods in. I'll

692
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: have like a speaker or my phone playing something. But

693
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: like you, I don't like putting air pods in because

694
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: you like chipping putting the feel aspect, like you don't

695
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: get the same response, or I can't tell like an

696
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: iron shot, like did I hit that perfect or I

697
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: missed a little bit, Like it's hard to tell when

698
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: you have air pods.

699
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the big ingredients of your feedback.

700
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta have it. Did you watch

701
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: the college football playoff this year?

702
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: I did. I was a little sad the dog. Yeah,

703
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: but it was who are you rooting.

704
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: For in that situation? Is it just like everybody beat

705
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 3: Bama kind of situation?

706
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Or I didn't want Bama to play. I didn't want

707
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: them to back door another nice championship.

708
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Well look at this just a slight dig I like that.

709
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: I like that.

710
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I wanted Washington and I thought that was a cool story.

711
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Good Michael Pennox was incredible. I know he didn't have

712
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: a great championship game, but it was a cool story.

713
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: Kind of an underdog they were. I played Oregon twice

714
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: and they're still like a nine point underdog playing in

715
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: the second time, and Vegas didn't think they were very good,

716
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: and they made it and they kept beating everybody, and

717
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted them to win. But I mean,

718
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Michigan had a great team. I would have loved to

719
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: see Georgia play Michigan at some point, but it is

720
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm glad they're going to the twelve

721
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: team playoff, mainly for our scenario of losing one game

722
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: in twenty nine gays out. So I mean, we've got

723
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: a really tough schedule, so we'd be lucky to get

724
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: through that season with one or two losses, so hopefully

725
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: we can get in that twelve team playoff. I think

726
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: it's just going to be make that even better and

727
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: make it better on TV.

728
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: Why does the US Open play into your hands so

729
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: well because you've played so well over the last few

730
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: years at the US Open in terms of major championship golf.

731
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I love that kind of golf. I love when greens

732
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: get firm chest smash out there where bogie avoidance might

733
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: be better than the birdies for me, and if you

734
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: get out of position, it's like, okay, where do I

735
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: now need to put the ball to give myself a

736
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: four to six foot or for par. And I love

737
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: that kind of golf and very strategic, kind of how

738
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I grew up. I mean, kind of small greens. You're

739
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: not gonna hit more than twelve greens. You got to

740
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: get up and down. I love it. I love when

741
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: the winning score is anywhere less than probably ten or

742
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: twelve under. I don't know what it is, but I've

743
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: gravitated towards the US Open and love when it gets

744
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: really hard. I feel like that's when you got to

745
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: have a great mental space out there and really start

746
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: grinding and put the mouthpiece in. And that's what I

747
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: love about that kind of golf.

748
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: So like when you're looking at the schedule and you

749
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: see Pineers number two as the host of the US

750
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: Open this season, you get excited obviously. I mean it's

751
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: a tough golf course that can play extremely tough. Par

752
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: is a very very good score on any whole out there.

753
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean, as you're kind of looking ahead at the

754
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: schedule and you're looking ahead at the major season, I'm

755
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: assuming when you see a place like Pinehurst than Oakmont

756
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: and wing Foot, you know that's hosting that year. It

757
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: probably gets you pumped up.

758
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know if I'm I'm playing decent, I've I've

759
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: got controller of my golf. Well, I feel like I'm

760
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: going to be in that tournament every single time because

761
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to beat myself. I'm gonna use the

762
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: practice rounds to really learn how to play that golf

763
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: course and where to miss it to certain pins. And

764
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: like I said, a chess match, and I love that

765
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of golf and I wish we played more of

766
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: that on the PGA Tour. I know it's very weather

767
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: depend it because for a lot of these guys out here,

768
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: when when the greens get soft, it's a dark context.

769
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: And is there a golf course on tour year to

770
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: year that feels the closest to us open feels like

771
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: it's probably Bay Hill, Say Bayhill when it gets baked,

772
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: feels kind of us opening.

773
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: A hill Tampa a little bit colonial. When it gets firm,

774
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: I just like when the when the conditions are really firm,

775
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: and and for me it helps out because I can

776
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: spin it a lot. I can get to a lot

777
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: of pins that other people can't get to. But yeah,

778
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean when the greens get firm, it makes it

779
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: more penalizing if you hit the rough because you can't

780
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: really hit the green and you've got to then I'll

781
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: kind of run it up the front. Do I miss

782
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: it on this this bunker to get it close to

783
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: the pen So I enjoy that kind of golf.

784
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Haris, you talked about a lot about having a bunch

785
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: of different grinds and wedges, you know in your collection.

786
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Now you're using S one fifty nine. You've used the

787
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: H grind which is our half moon, and also kind

788
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: of toggling a little bit with our tea grind. Tell

789
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: us about do you switch grinds a little bit, depend

790
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: on conditions, your technique and where are you at right now.

791
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: I started with the Tea grind U in Hawaii, especially

792
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: Sonny was a little firmer conditions, and the last couple

793
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: of weeks I've switched to the H grind. Tory was soft.

794
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: Double Beach was extremely soft. So that's what I've got

795
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: to get better at, is kind of switching between two

796
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: of the For me, the bun career if it's firm

797
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: or soft, and that's when I'm working with the ping

798
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: guys to travel with two wedges and to kind of

799
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: go back and forth and have two wedges that I'm

800
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: really comfortable with and just bring them in and out

801
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: based on the conditions. So I'm learning a bit more

802
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: like that and and kind of enjoying knowing more about

803
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: the clubs and the different grinds and how that can

804
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: help me hit different chips and bunker shots and get

805
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the ball to do what I want to do.

806
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: So for you, a big priority on your sixty degree

807
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: is bunker play.

808
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, kind of the short sided bunker play,

809
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: because if I'm going to be pretty aggressive getting into

810
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: pins and I do missing a bunker, I want to

811
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: be confident like, Okay, I can hit it in there

812
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: and be fine. If it's not plugged, I got a

813
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: good chance of getting up and down.

814
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

815
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: Because the pins are so talk for three to four

816
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: paces off the green, you're gonna have some really short

817
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: sided bunker shots, so you got to bring it in

818
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: high and soft and have enough spend to keep it

819
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: around the hole. So Yeah, I'm really good at the

820
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: basic bumping runs. That's why I like chipping on my

821
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: fifty two, my pushing wege, That's why I use the

822
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: yeah do great. Yeah, Because I do use those a

823
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: lot if the if I've got enough green to work

824
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: with to bump and run it back there, but you

825
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: got to be able to hit that high soft shot

826
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: with a lot of spin out here on tour and

827
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: having the right grind and the right foot to help

828
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: me do that.

829
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: What is the best, uh short game shot? You think

830
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: in your repertoire, where you could you could You're you're

831
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: better than most.

832
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I here, I practice a lot of like downhill live

833
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: bunker shots. For me, it's more of a training tool

834
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: to where I stay stay in the shot, I don't

835
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: back out of the shot. I practice a lot. I

836
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: kind of do it in my warm up routine, so

837
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I get that shot in competition,

838
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm you kind of excited, excited to hit it. So

839
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: I would say I'm probably better than most hit long

840
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: bunker shots and downhill bunker shots.

841
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: Take us to the Ryder Cup. You go out with

842
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 3: Tony f Now and you guys get Rory and Shane

843
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: Lowry and this is your first experience of the Ryder Cup.

844
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: What was the first let's say thirty minutes of that experience.

845
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: It's like when you got to the first t you

846
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: guys started to hit golf shots that gott the match

847
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: because I mean I could imagine it was nerve wracking, exciting, intimidating,

848
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: all those kind of things.

849
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was awesome to get paired with

850
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: my boy Tony. He's the best, super fun, super even keeled,

851
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: great energy. It was a very comfortable pairing for me.

852
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: I just love playing with Tony. I love being around him,

853
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: and it was awesome to draw Shane and Rory like,

854
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: all right, we're getting through. We got a great deal.

855
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's get after it. Well, there's so much build

856
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: up to it, and then finally when after you hit

857
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: that first T shot, you're like, all right, we're we're

858
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: playing golf again. It's it's go time. But that first

859
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: T shot, I mean, for me, it's like if if

860
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: I can get the ball on the tee the first

861
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: time and then it doesn't fall off, doesn't fall off,

862
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: your hands are shaking a little bit, and then that

863
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: opening hole is just like hit driver as hard as

864
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: you can, which is awesome. I probably wouldn't like hitting

865
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: a four iron off that tea, but it was awesome.

866
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: Hit great drives every day and we had some great matches.

867
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Tony played great putted great beat Rory and Shane. And

868
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Speaker 1: the next day we got Shane and Tyrrollhattan, which is

869
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: another great match, and they squeaked this out on the

870
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Speaker 1: last soul. Shane made a fifteen footer on eighteen to win.

871
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: That match went up. But it was an awesome experience

872
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Speaker 1: and something I'll never forget.

873
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's got to be a drug. It's like playing,

874
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: like like continuing in US Open or getting in condition

875
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: at a big event. I mean, played in a Ryder Cup.

876
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: Probably the closest. You know, it's around the super Bowl

877
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Speaker 3: right now we're recording this and it's probably the closest

878
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: golfers can field to super Bowl week. You know, you

879
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: get two weeks off. Obviously you're not playing golf till Friday,

880
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: a lot of build up, a lot of hype around it.

881
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Not much else is going on in the golf world.

882
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: But when you're in that world, you're in that space,

883
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: and then you go home on Monday or Tuesday and

884
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: you're thinking back to it. It's probably a mindset of

885
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: I've got to get back to there. I've got to

886
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Speaker 3: get back to that again. In a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, once you make one you never want

888
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: to miss another team. I hated not being with them

889
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: in Rome this year, but I got up early with

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00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: our baby and watching on TV and a little bit

891
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: of FOMO. But I loved watching them and it's such

892
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: a cool experience. And to anybody that has never been

893
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Speaker 1: to a Ryder Cup, you have to go. I mean

894
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the one at bet Page next year or two years

895
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: is going to be incredible. There's just so much adrenaline

896
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: and four matches on the golf course, like every shot

897
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: means so much, and it's like playing sixteen at Scottsdale.

898
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: Pretty much every hole you're adrenaline is through the roof.

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, even going back to the team hotel, it's

900
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: just hard to settle down. It's hard to go to sleep,

901
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: hard to get your rest because you're on such a

902
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: high adrenaline rush. It's it's amazing. I mean, it was

903
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Speaker 1: one of the best experiences of my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. I've played on two PGA Cup teams.

905
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: So when the PGA of America spun off the Ryder Cup,

906
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: they started the PGA Cup which is for the club

907
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: pro so we play against GBA, GB and I and

908
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: that's been two of the funnest weeks. Obviously we don't

909
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: have the big galleries, but it's been. It's been on

910
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: Golf Channel and it's been super fun. I made the

911
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 2: winning putt to beat gb I nine a huge comeback

912
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, and that was like the most

913
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: fun I've ever had.

914
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: It was just a team golf, more nervous than that,

915
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: or more nervous like majors or when you played here.

916
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: I was probably like sixteen. When I played sixteen at Phoenix.

917
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: There's so much buzz in there that actually wasn't that

918
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: nervous and hitting short and you're hitting a pitch away right,

919
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: you're mashing a pitch awage or something like that.

920
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Or no, you're not trying to chip a little ninern

921
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: in there, You're you're taking a club lesson.

922
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: I have my whole team around, and so it's like

923
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: they're all rely like you know, they're all relying on

924
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: me to win this final hole. That was probably the

925
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: most pressure I felt on the golf course.

926
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Speaker 1: Actually, team team golf is different. I mean, it's it's

927
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: way more pressure because for me, like I can deal

928
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: with if deal with if I had a bad shot

929
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: or short side myself but it's.

930
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: Kind of on you.

931
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to deal with the concerts, and playing

932
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: best ball with Tony is a little bit easier. And

933
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Speaker 1: then alternate shot, so like I let Tony play his game,

934
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Speaker 1: he lets me play my game. Yeah, we're trying to

935
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Speaker 1: make as many birdy as we can, so it's a

936
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Speaker 1: little bit easier. But yeah, team golf, I mean you

937
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: don't you don't want to let your teammates sound.

938
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: How did you and Tony pick which golf ball you're

939
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: going to use?

940
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: So we played best ball, so we we uh got Yeah,

941
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: that's right. I got to play our un ball.

942
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: How'd you do that? In the alternate shot?

943
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: He's like rock paper scissors or something or who cares?

944
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, who cares less?

945
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Or I guess like if you're paring with Tiger or

946
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: Phil is like we'll use you, I'll adjust. Yeah.

947
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: The only time I've really done that is the Grant

948
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Thornton played with Matt Coocher for for years and I played.

949
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: With you guys, have like a run there? Yeah we

950
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: wanted like three times? Is that right?

951
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: I think?

952
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: So?

953
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got second a couple of times. We've had

954
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: a good run. That's an awesome event and uh. Playing

955
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: with Selene Boudier this year was awesome getting to meet

956
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: some of the LPGA players and and see their games.

957
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: They're they're awesome and unbelievable wedge games, unbelievable putters. It

958
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: was really cool to see that side.

959
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: What's left on the goals of Harris English for your career?

960
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: Do you have to a do you make goals? Beat?

961
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: You write them down and see what is on the

962
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: list if you do.

963
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I make goals. I write them down some I

964
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Speaker 1: need to be better about that. But I to compete

965
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Speaker 1: in majors, I mean thirty four That's that's what we

966
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Speaker 1: play for. I mean, that's why I'm on the PGA

967
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: Tour is I want to play and as many major

968
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Speaker 1: as I can and then have as many chances to

969
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Speaker 1: win as possible, and and even big tournaments on the

970
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. I don't care what tournament is. I mean,

971
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Speaker 1: if you're coming out on the stretch and contention, you're

972
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Speaker 1: feeling the butterflies, you're feeling the nerves and you want

973
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Speaker 1: to win because it's it's so hard to win on

974
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Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. But yeah, I would would love to

975
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Speaker 1: knock off a major two more I mean for me,

976
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Speaker 1: it's like if I can get in contention half the

977
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Speaker 1: tournaments I play in, that's that's a great year. Or

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Speaker 1: that's a great week. If if if I'm within two

979
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: or three shots to leave none holes to play, that's

980
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Speaker 1: a successful week for me, because that's where I want

981
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Speaker 1: to be. That's why and why I play the game,

982
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: to get those nerves, to get that feeling, that adrenaline going,

983
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Speaker 1: and to play on some Rider Cup teams, play on

984
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Speaker 1: Presidence Cup teams because I got a taste of that,

985
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Speaker 1: and like I said earlier, once you have that taste,

986
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Speaker 1: you don't want to miss another one.

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Speaker 3: Do you keep all the gear? Like do you keep

988
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: all the shirts and stuff? Do you give them away?

989
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: What do you most of it?

990
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Speaker 3: It is and it's like boxes a gear.

991
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like cleaning out all my stuff the

992
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: last couple of months, it's like how much gear accumulates,

993
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: and like we got that much stuff for the Ryder

994
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Cup and you don't want to give it away. I mean,

995
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: because it means so much and I want my kids

996
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: to be able to see it or wear it someday

997
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: would be really cool. Yeah, being thirteen years, you accumulate

998
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: so much and it's like what what do I need

999
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: to take with me or what can I get rid

1000
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Speaker 1: of and not worry about?

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Speaker 3: Well, Harrison, we really appreciate the time, great chat with you.

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Speaker 3: I hope you have a great season. Excited to see

1003
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Speaker 3: you can tend and compete in the major championships and

1004
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing. Bit a great chat. Thanks

1005
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: so much time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Marty Yep. I would love to shout at

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Speaker 1: you someday that your work.

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00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Feel free anytime you want, come on.

1009
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Speaker 3: Over, come over there and build a couple of clubs.

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00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: Get really diled and see what he's doing.

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00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot about it, but I

1012
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: love what goes into it and I think it's really cool.

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Speaker 2: So I love thanks. Harris's been It's been fun working

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Speaker 2: with you. And like I said, I was not joking

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Speaker 2: when we think about designing some you know, always the

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Speaker 2: deep faced fairwe would We talked about Harris on Blueprint irons.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Harris. You know, we're working on Putter

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Speaker 2: designs and trying what can we learn from the ho hum, we're.

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Speaker 1: All Scott still? What did what did that face of

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Speaker 1: the Scott still? Why is it so.

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Speaker 2: Put yeah, I know we've put that insert in a

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Speaker 2: lot of other putters, uh, for players and just trying

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Speaker 2: to learn. And I think you're so tuned into the

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00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: field right in marrying. Yes, it needs to perform this way,

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Speaker 2: but also what we want to do from a field standpoint.

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Speaker 3: So Rockstar Harris English. This is the Ping Proving Ground

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Speaker 3: Podcast