WEBVTT - How to Really, Truly Keep Your Workplace Resolutions

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<v Speaker 1>New Year, New workplace. You right, Every year we come

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<v Speaker 1>back from the holidays and say we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>our best selves and we make our workplace resolution. This

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<v Speaker 1>week we're going to talk about how to stick to them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is game plan. Welcome back. I'm Rebecca Greenfield and

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<v Speaker 1>I am Sam Grobart, and this week we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>our workplace New Year's resolutions, because of course if it's January. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta be better than last year. Oh. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be hard because you were so good

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I set the bar so high. I set

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<v Speaker 1>goals and I achieved them. Because goals are hard to attain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why goals are hard to attain. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen is already proving itself to be formidable. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>that has not stopped us from making resolutions that you

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't keep, but you know, we'll try for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while. Yeah. So, Sam, do you have a workplace

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<v Speaker 1>near est resolution? Well? I do. I actually have two,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think one is more workplace related than the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with the workplace one. I have never kept

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of a to do list. I have this

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<v Speaker 1>misbegotten notion that I can just keep it all in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, and as I become older and feebler brained,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it would be beneficial for me to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a to do list every day and refer to

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<v Speaker 1>it constantly. So I did a little googling on to

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<v Speaker 1>do lists. Did you know? Yeah, And there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>competing advice out there. There's like, don't write the to

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<v Speaker 1>do list, you need a to do list, You're doing

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<v Speaker 1>your to do list wrong. One stat I found that

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<v Speaker 1>said nearly two thirds of professionals right to do lists,

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<v Speaker 1>but only of them do the tasks on them. Which

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of my m O. Like I write down

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<v Speaker 1>all the things and then just the next day rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>down all the things. I'm always seeking a new piece

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<v Speaker 1>of technology to make my life better. Think that that

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<v Speaker 1>will be the miracle cure didn't be j Novac of

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<v Speaker 1>the Office fame. He did, he did. I'm not using

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<v Speaker 1>his appre you using. I have recently switched over calendar apps.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was a long time Apple calendar user with

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of Google Calendar back end. Don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>get to in the weeds here, people, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>switched over to a new calendar app called Fantastical. Two

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<v Speaker 1>um the sequel, so many unanswered questions from Fantastical one

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<v Speaker 1>and it's four So I don't pay for apps, no,

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<v Speaker 1>So of course the psychology for me is like it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be amazing, right, such quality. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do like about it very much, which you think

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<v Speaker 1>would appear in other calendar apps, is that you are

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<v Speaker 1>able to view your tasks and your appointments in the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. There's no separate app for the one versus

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<v Speaker 1>the other. And that way, when I'm looking at my day,

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<v Speaker 1>I can sort of see everything that's going on, things

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do which could happen like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning or the afternoon, as well as obviously

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and phone calls and things like that that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen at a scheduled time. That seems useful

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<v Speaker 1>because I just make reminders appointments right now, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>make them appointments, right The problem I have with that strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I used to do, two things. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, you get an alert at a certain time

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<v Speaker 1>and it's annoying and never at the right time, never

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<v Speaker 1>the right time, and then you ignore it and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes away. It's bad, and then you're it's sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>another app that you're probably not going to go look at, whereas,

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<v Speaker 1>of course your calendar. I mean, my calendar is up

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<v Speaker 1>on my screen and stuff all the time, constantly looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my calendar. I'm so busy. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you make the time for this. So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm trying to the other one is more

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<v Speaker 1>of a health related one, but I think it has

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<v Speaker 1>some ramifications in the workplace. I am going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to drink less, and by drink, I mean alcohol, not

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<v Speaker 1>fluids in general, not that I feel like it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been a problem, nothing like that. But I'm getting chubby.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've never been super skinny, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the scale like a week ago and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god. Yeah, it seems like an

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<v Speaker 1>easy thing to cut out. Yeah, So I'm saying I

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<v Speaker 1>am not going to drink from Sunday through Thursday. I

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<v Speaker 1>will drink on the weekend, which does seem workplace related,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of workplace happy hours totally, and

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<v Speaker 1>drinks with like a person that you might be doing

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<v Speaker 1>business with or talking to or something like that. Or

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really long day and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>a beer after work, right, So, yes, I'm wondering what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen when I have a work related drinking event.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not necessarily saying that I'm not going to drink then.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like a cocktail is not going to make

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<v Speaker 1>or break my pattern, although maybe I'll just get a

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<v Speaker 1>saltzer with lime. You're going to have to be that

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<v Speaker 1>guy like, oh, I actually don't drink on Mondays. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I want to hear your resolutions, so mine

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<v Speaker 1>aren't kind of relate aided to each other. My first

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<v Speaker 1>one is that I would like to spend less frivolous

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<v Speaker 1>time on Twitter. Excellent. Yeah, we have to use Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for our jobs. But I've developed what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is an unhealthy addiction. Like sometimes my fingers will

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<v Speaker 1>type t W into the into the browser automatically, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll go there and then I'll close it and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll reopen it literally one second later. It's bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the news comes at me really quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's stressful, and the news stresses me out. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am in the news business and I have to stay informed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think as much as I am doing now,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to say that you are correct. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I did download this app stay Focused, which lets you

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<v Speaker 1>set a timer for how long you're allowed to use

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<v Speaker 1>a website in a given day. But I've already figured

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<v Speaker 1>out a work around. It's so bad, I'm so addicted.

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<v Speaker 1>I need help. So that's that's my first resolution, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one is related in that I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be better at staying focused on one specific given

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<v Speaker 1>task at work. I sometimes will be writing a story

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<v Speaker 1>and it will take me twice or three times as

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<v Speaker 1>long because I get distracted by things like Twitter, but

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<v Speaker 1>other things too that I just can't focus. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think many people, most people are probably that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I am certainly that way. Do you ever find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in what I like to call constructive procrastination? Yeah? Yeah, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do my expense report. I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do it eventually, right, I mean, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get done. I just did that today, just this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like that. So I think maybe these are lofty

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<v Speaker 1>goals that are hard to achieve. I have cleaned grout

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<v Speaker 1>work in my shower so as to avoid doing other things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my old roommate used to clean the entire apartment when

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<v Speaker 1>she worked from home. I could always tell when she

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<v Speaker 1>was working from home because the apartment would be really clean.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there are various ways to stick to these habits.

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<v Speaker 1>Just today on Twitter, I saw many links tweeted about

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<v Speaker 1>how to stick to your New Year's resolutions. And one

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<v Speaker 1>way that I came across is this website stick. It's

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<v Speaker 1>spelled s t I C K k oh of course,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and it was started by these Yale behavioral

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<v Speaker 1>economists and basically you bet against yourself, so it's pretty extreme. So,

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<v Speaker 1>say you want to stop drinking, you put up something

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred dollars a week, and if you drink

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<v Speaker 1>that week, you have to pay the website one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one hundred dollars goes to an anti charity.

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<v Speaker 1>So say you are pro gun control, they would send

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<v Speaker 1>the money to the n r A and they say

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<v Speaker 1>it really works. And you can also point a referee,

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<v Speaker 1>so a friend, to keep you honest. Oh so if

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<v Speaker 1>your self reporting is not reliable, like I didn't drink,

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<v Speaker 1>privileges can be granted to another person who can actually

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<v Speaker 1>wrap you out and then that money goes to like

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<v Speaker 1>the Family Research Council. Yeah, or or whatever your anti

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<v Speaker 1>charity is. I mean, I'm kind of scared of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scary. It's a cool idea, but it's it's But

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<v Speaker 1>since we're not going to do that, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Gretchen Rubin of the Happiness Project fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has another book, Better Than Before, that is

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<v Speaker 1>all about breaking habits. Thanks so much for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to be talking to you. So we

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<v Speaker 1>just went through our workplace resolutions, Sam and I and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to know how to stick to them. Excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>only my favorite subject. Excellent. So I guess we should

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<v Speaker 1>start with Sam's first. Yeah, tell me what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to make these things stick. Okay, one of

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<v Speaker 1>your resolutions is to drink less, not to give up

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<v Speaker 1>drinking altogether, but right, right, right, And that's a surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>common resolution. I think you're really smart to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have a bright line rule, because what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with resolutions and with habit making generally, is to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of decisions because every time you try to

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<v Speaker 1>make a healthy choice, you have the opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong choice. So if you're saying there's this block

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<v Speaker 1>of time where I'm just not going to have a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's no debate, right, right, So you're you've said that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're planning for when you would that's right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and really looking forward to it and really okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>but then the question you and you were very smart

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<v Speaker 1>in thinking about. But they're going to be these things

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<v Speaker 1>that come up. And that's what I would call the

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<v Speaker 1>strategy of safeguards, which is planning for failure. Right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm out at work and then somebody says, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get a drink. Yes, I'm not sure what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't have a plan. Really, you didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you needed one, So you need if then plan if

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<v Speaker 1>this happens, then this happens. Now what are the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that arise? Is it a friend asking for drink? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a business dinner where everybody is sharing a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine? Like, what is the challenge that you face?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that for me, the more likely scenario is

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<v Speaker 1>a social occasion which might have some work related benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>So here you go and you sit down somewhere and

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<v Speaker 1>the person orders a drink and I say, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually trying to drink less now, which then feels like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm judge in them, which maybe makes them feel uncomfortable. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>can I butt in, having a drink in these situations

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<v Speaker 1>makes them easier and loosens everybody up. Okay, So in

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<v Speaker 1>my book Better Than Before, I talk about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one strategies of habit change, and these are the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one strategies that you can use to make or break

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<v Speaker 1>your habits. And you're kind of rolling your eyes because

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one sounds like a lot, I know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>good because some work for some people, enough for others,

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<v Speaker 1>and some in some situations enough brothers. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you need, first of all is clarity, because what

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<v Speaker 1>is the purpose of your rule? And so when are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to invoke it? Because you could have a

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<v Speaker 1>specific exception for certain kinds of occasions. You could say

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, I'm only going to drink on Friday and

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday nights, except if I'm at a work event where

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like having one drink would make me feel

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<v Speaker 1>significantly more comfortable in this situation, and then you're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you have a planned exception. You're gonna have one

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<v Speaker 1>drink because wondering to address the concerns that you're having

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<v Speaker 1>one drink is enough or you could just say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a diet coke, but it is easier.

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<v Speaker 1>The more clear a rule is, like, no drinks except

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<v Speaker 1>for Friday and Saturday is clear than no drinks except

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<v Speaker 1>Friday and Saturday except for these exceptions. It's clearer. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you would ultimately fail more because you would come

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<v Speaker 1>up against these challenges. I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>when people try to make resolution or keep habits, they

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<v Speaker 1>set it up in a way that's just not realistic,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they fail and they feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>no self control, I have no discipline, I can't do anything, whereas,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, maybe you're better off saying like, given this exception,

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<v Speaker 1>I can stick to my overall rule better. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>setting yourself up for success because you're being more realistic

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<v Speaker 1>about what's true about you and how you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>how you want your life to unfold. Way. Yeah, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>and can I just say one thing quickly about the

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<v Speaker 1>giving up drinking. I will just say quickly that for

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<v Speaker 1>some people it's easy to give up a temptation altogether

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<v Speaker 1>than to be moderate. So you're being moderate, you're having it. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing it out there that for some people,

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<v Speaker 1>like me with some temptations, whether it's sugar or candy,

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<v Speaker 1>crush on your phone, or you know whatever, it might be,

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<v Speaker 1>ruzzle alcohol, it's easier to to give up something altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're having a very hard time indulging, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>try giving something up altogether. It sounds harder, but for

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<v Speaker 1>many people it is easier. For me, it's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>have no sugar than a little bit of sugar. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just throw that out as an alternate strategy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's yours? So, yeah, I want to try to not

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<v Speaker 1>be addicted to Twitter, so I'm breaking a bad habit. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but you told me that Twitter is something that you

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<v Speaker 1>do at work, so it's not a temptation at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really. I don't really use it on the weekends

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<v Speaker 1>or nights. Okay. Do you use it on your phone

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<v Speaker 1>or on your desktop? My desktop? Okay. So it's always

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<v Speaker 1>easier to change your circumstances than to change yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most powerful of the strategies is the

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<v Speaker 1>twin strategies of convenience and inconvenience, we're much more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to do something that it's convenient, and we're much less

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<v Speaker 1>likely to do something if it's inconvenient, so deleted from

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<v Speaker 1>your desktop Twitter. Problem with that, but you can check

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<v Speaker 1>it on your phone. And also I use like the browser,

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<v Speaker 1>so i'd have to I can't delete like Google Chrome.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to like Twitter dot com. Basically, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>just don't go to Twitter, can you? Can you just

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<v Speaker 1>not go to Twitter talk And I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling Sam that sometimes my fingers will just type

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<v Speaker 1>tw and it will open up. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not magic, And I mean, is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>like a thing so you could block it on your browser? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I downloaded this app called Stay Focused. It gives you

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of time that you could spend on

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<v Speaker 1>a website. So basically I need to make the time short.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I think I have three hours a day

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<v Speaker 1>to make it short, maybe like fifteen seconds. If you

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<v Speaker 1>desperately need to check Twitter. You can always look on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, but you're just not going to check it

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<v Speaker 1>on your desk, all right, fifteen seconds? Yeah, because the things,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always better to set up your circumstances than to

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<v Speaker 1>try to work on yourself. So just make it really,

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<v Speaker 1>really inconvenient to do it. Somebody was saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>always checked Twitter at home, so she said she had

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing squats. Well, she checked Twitter, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this a limit how many squats you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do in a day? She had a really good glutes. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that wouldn't work for you in the workplace. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a moment when you can decide that you've become

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<v Speaker 1>healthier and unblock it or is that just not allowed? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's up for everybody to themselves. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you are feeling very like looking at Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>makes you very uneasy and unsettled and distracts you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that events in the world will change

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<v Speaker 1>in such a wonderful, happy way that you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter will just fill you with peace and contentment and joy,

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<v Speaker 1>and in which case it will be great for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go on Twitter. So when that happy moment arrives,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go back into your stay focused app and

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<v Speaker 1>change your change says Okay, all right, that it seems extreme,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to do it. But the strategy of

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<v Speaker 1>convenience on the strategy of inconvenience or two strategies that

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<v Speaker 1>work for just about everyone. If you want to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>make it easier. If you don't want to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>make it harder. It's crazy. There's so much hilarious research

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<v Speaker 1>about They did a study with people at a salad bar,

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<v Speaker 1>and people took more when they could use spoons instead

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<v Speaker 1>of tongs, because just using tongs is that much more

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<v Speaker 1>work that people took less food. We're that susceptible. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what tongues or us for many

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<v Speaker 1>people know the obstacle, but it's you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>that much more difficult. So so yeah, Sam, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to your something. What I have is pretty generic. It

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<v Speaker 1>just has to do with you know, to do lists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to start using them and keeping to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was curious to know your thoughts about them.

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<v Speaker 1>So many many people find to do lists helpful. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy of clarity, because it's very clear what you're

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<v Speaker 1>expecting of yourself. And it's also the strategy of monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the great pleasures of to do list

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<v Speaker 1>is getting to check off something that you've done, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you've done and what you haven't done.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it forces clarity because you're deciding what is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go on the list. My personal view is

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<v Speaker 1>that every to do list should begin with one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things that have either already been accomplished or we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take less than thirty seconds to do, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>just start off by crossing something off your to do

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<v Speaker 1>list the minute you write it down. But you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>made to do list in the past. Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>time in your life when you did keep to do lists?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have on occasion I feel like like

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting ready for a trip or something. Yeah. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and even I tried it before a little bit here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. But I think I need to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>it on a consistent basis. And why do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you haven't been doing it at a consistent base? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have an over reliance on my memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can keep it all in my

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<v Speaker 1>head and I want what to do. Yeah, And and

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm realizing, of course, is that that's no longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was never true at forty two, it is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not true, and it's only going to be less

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<v Speaker 1>true as I get older. Well, one thing also to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind is just in terms of the efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>of it, is that it frees up your mind. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be I think that once you start keeping in

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<v Speaker 1>to do list, you'll realize it kind of frees up

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<v Speaker 1>some bandwidth because all that stuff that's circulating in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind trying to help you remember what you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do and like kind of pinging you throughout the day,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget about this, don't forget about that. Having it

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<v Speaker 1>to do list can really free that. In fact, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you have racing thoughts in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where you wake up and you can't shut

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<v Speaker 1>off your mind, you can't come back to sleep. Writing

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<v Speaker 1>it down helps because that frees up the brain. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to keep thinking about this because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been memorialized. You've offloaded it. You've offloaded it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you see that there and um, but so how do

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<v Speaker 1>you make the habit of having it to do It's

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<v Speaker 1>because it is the kind of thing that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it consistently. So first of all, make it

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<v Speaker 1>very convenient, like by yourself an attractive pad that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the right pad for you. Sam's going to get so

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<v Speaker 1>into that. Things feel easier when they're more pleasant and

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<v Speaker 1>more beautiful. So like, treat this as a serious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just some nasty scratch pad that you got

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<v Speaker 1>from free from a bank or something. So when do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you would do it? Are you gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it in the morning, You're gonna do in the evening? Both?

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<v Speaker 1>What how do you visualize yourself using this? I see

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<v Speaker 1>myself mostly using it in the evening, possibly but adding

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<v Speaker 1>things to it as they present themselves. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to experiment, like is every day a new

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<v Speaker 1>to do list? Are you going to do a notebook

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<v Speaker 1>where it's running forward? Like people have different There's like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cool strategies for people that who are

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<v Speaker 1>really embraced the to do list. Um, I just keep

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<v Speaker 1>as simple to do list. And that sounds like what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. You might start at the very end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day and really have a period of your

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<v Speaker 1>day when you're like, this is the last thing I

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<v Speaker 1>do before I go home. This is what I do. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if there's some other thing that you often do

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<v Speaker 1>right before you leave, you want to piggyback this habit

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<v Speaker 1>onto that habit that will help install. So is there

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<v Speaker 1>something that you typically do at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day before I leave the office? Not particularly, No, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be something I think I should probably develop because

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself, I usually am like I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm not working right right, right right, So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you want to say, like before I pick up

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<v Speaker 1>my backpack, or like before I you know, pull out

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<v Speaker 1>my idea or whatever it is, I'm gonna check the

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<v Speaker 1>to do list and just really try to make it

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<v Speaker 1>an official part of your day, like something just like

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<v Speaker 1>checking your email. You have to check your email one

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<v Speaker 1>more time before you walk out. You have to check

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<v Speaker 1>your to do list, because it's only it's help. You're

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<v Speaker 1>only going to get out of it what you put

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<v Speaker 1>into it, And so you want to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>habit of using it regularly and checking it. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will say some people really resist to do lists. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my four Tendencies framework, which divides all humanity

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<v Speaker 1>into four tendencies. And there's a tendency called the rebel tendency,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tend to really bridle at to do list.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you can also think of this as they

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<v Speaker 1>could do lists. These are the because that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. They're just things that you could do if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like it during your day. You could do

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<v Speaker 1>these things. You could do other things, but you could

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<v Speaker 1>do these things. No pressure, Becca, you have another resolution,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I do. I want to stay more focused on

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<v Speaker 1>a given specific task. Okay. So in what's interrupting you? Twitter? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's all. So that's gone. So that's good. You're chatting, um,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to your co workers, workers and friends in person

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<v Speaker 1>or or something on the internet and in person email,

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<v Speaker 1>other not really important work tasks, so like doing my

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<v Speaker 1>expense reports or reading an article, or I am usually

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<v Speaker 1>working on multiple projects that have given time. So right

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<v Speaker 1>now I have to finish the story I'm writing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will just do other work for the other projects instead. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the most dangerous forms of procrastination is working. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really good at that. So you're working, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that you're just like, you know, filling out

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<v Speaker 1>a crossroad puzzle with your feet up on your desk. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're doing a productive test, you're doing expensive reports

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but you're not doing what you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing and what is your highest priority thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that works for me, UM

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<v Speaker 1>is to say I'm going to do this task or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do this task, or I can like stare

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<v Speaker 1>into space, but I cannot search the internet, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>check Twitter, I cannot talk to a friend, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>do expense reports, I cannot do research. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a writer, research is like this wonderful, inexhaustible

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 1>escape fun. It's so fun and you never run out

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of research. Um, so it's this task or nothing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're deciding like Okay, I'm gonna work on this story

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm just gonna stare off into space and just

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<v Speaker 1>out of sheer boredom, you will end up working on

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<v Speaker 1>your task. Another thing is I find that sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>can be helpful if you're working in a task is

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<v Speaker 1>to move to another place. So you're like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to take my laptop. I don't know if this works

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<v Speaker 1>with your work, but could you like go with your

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<v Speaker 1>laptop to a place away from your desk so nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>around you to talk to you. You're not at your

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<v Speaker 1>desktop where you're going to see, you know, all everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's flowing through, and just say I'm only going to

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<v Speaker 1>open up this document and I'm gonna work within this document.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go outside this document, or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to check my phone, you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>good solid hour two hours or whatever is reasonable for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and and sometimes for me, like just physically moving myself

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<v Speaker 1>even to a coffee shop, that's an hour. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>little library where I work, um outside my office. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just being there. I'm like, okay, I'm only doing this

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<v Speaker 1>one thing while I'm in this place. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that m yeah, I think it would work. I would

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<v Speaker 1>need to just bring my laptop to work, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something I should do. I think Sam does this. When

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<v Speaker 1>do you do that? When I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>writing to do? Yeah, don't come into the office. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a lot it's it is. Can I just

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<v Speaker 1>say though, as a workplace phenomenon, it's pretty funny that

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<v Speaker 1>now universally whatever field, people are in there like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I really want to get work done, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>come into the That's right. If I do have to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the office to say, there is a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>I have to attend, so I'm gonna have to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>I will bring my laptop and then I have found

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<v Speaker 1>in our building particularly there are some very empty floors

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<v Speaker 1>with like banks of empty desks and countertops, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will go and find a spot up there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will set up and exactly as you described. I will

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<v Speaker 1>go full screen. Yeah, I will go straight into my

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<v Speaker 1>Google doc or my Microsoft word doc. Nothing else. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put on some headphones. You've got to make like

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<v Speaker 1>a bat cave. Yeah, yeah, you know, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>shield yourself off. And also, I think just the occasion

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<v Speaker 1>of being somewhere else this is my special works, not

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<v Speaker 1>just where I hang out. Yeah, yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would work. So because not everyone has our exact what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about, I mean I think they're common.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be good to know some kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>general framework for keeping resolutions and habits that other people

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<v Speaker 1>could use, well, some of the ones that tend to

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<v Speaker 1>work the most universally. And as they say, like um,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big mistakes that people make with habits

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<v Speaker 1>and resolutions is to think, well, I should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, you know, like, well, if this is

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<v Speaker 1>important to me, I should be able to get up

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<v Speaker 1>early and do it first thing. Or if this is

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<v Speaker 1>important to me, I should be able to sit at

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<v Speaker 1>my desk and do it and ignore Twitter or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing, there's nothing that you should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It's only what works for you. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>right way, there's no wrong way. Just because Steve Jobs

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<v Speaker 1>did something or your sister in law did something doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's the right way. There's no magic, one size

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>fits all solution. That being said, I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that tend to work for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. One is monitoring. Monitoring has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an uncanny power, and the more we just pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to how much we're doing something, we tend to do

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<v Speaker 1>a better job. Whether that's how many networking calls were

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<v Speaker 1>making or how many you know, how much we're spending,

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<v Speaker 1>or what we're eating, how many stuffs were taking. Just

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing how much you're doing something tends to push you

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. So any kind of monitoring that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do, um, I know there are apps where

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<v Speaker 1>you can. They will tell you at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, how much time did you spend on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes just knowing, like, oh my goodness, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea you know that alone, just that information. Another

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<v Speaker 1>one is scheduling. So for most people, UM, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>something is going to be on the schedule makes it

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<v Speaker 1>easier to do. So it's not just I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>check my to do list, it's I'm going to check

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<v Speaker 1>my to do list right before I leave work every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, because it's when it's on the schedule, or

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<v Speaker 1>like every day, I'm gonna update my expenses. When are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do that? At nine am, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, or during my lunch hour, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Because something that can be done at anytime

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<v Speaker 1>is often done at no time. And the more specifically

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you can say when something's going to happen, and the

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<v Speaker 1>more inviolable it can be. So it's like a dentist appointment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an optional thing that you can do if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like it, because a lot of times you

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't feel like it. It's got to be something

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel like, well, it's on the calendar, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do it. Another thing that really helps people,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a sort of a different way to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, is what I would call the strategy

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<v Speaker 1>of foundation, because when we're trying to keep our resolutions,

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<v Speaker 1>we're asking something of ourselves. Usually we're we're doing a deprivation,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like drinking less alcohol, or it's an imposition like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a new thing, like I'm gonna I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>up Twitter. What does a deprivation, or I'm gonna impose.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh now I'm gonna need to go to this different

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<v Speaker 1>FLOORI to work on my laptop. That's an imposition. And

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<v Speaker 1>we do better when we have more self mastery. And

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<v Speaker 1>so getting enough sleep, getting a little bit of exercise,

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>making sure that you're not too hungry, these help you

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<v Speaker 1>keep yourself from getting so frazzled that you can't ask

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<v Speaker 1>anything of yourself. And weirdly, also clutter. Clutter is something

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people say makes them just feel

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed and tired. So I try to make you have

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<v Speaker 1>the habit of the to do list. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>make a habit of every night kind of cleaning off

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<v Speaker 1>my workspace because I feel that I feel more energized

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<v Speaker 1>and more I have more self command when I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>drowning in papers and notes and books that are half

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<v Speaker 1>open and ten coffee mugs and so those kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things help you ask more of yourself. I am ready

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<v Speaker 1>to conquer the world. Yeah, and thank you. And you

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>have some other places where people can learn about these things, right, yes, yes,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>So my book of the Happiness Project and Better Than

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Before is specifically all about habits. Um I blog every

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<v Speaker 1>day at Gretchen Reuben dot com about my adventures in

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<v Speaker 1>happiness and good habits. I have a podcast, Happier with

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Gretchen Reuben, and also I just launched a family podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>One is called Radical Candor, which is all about how

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<v Speaker 1>not to be the boss you hate and how not

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<v Speaker 1>to hate the boss you have. And an other side

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<v Speaker 1>Hustle school for people are trying to start a side hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are two podcasts that are kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>a family with my podcast Happier with Gretchen Reuben about

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<v Speaker 1>concrete ways to make your life better great, can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to take a list, and thanks so much, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. So we gave Gretchen our specific resolutions and

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<v Speaker 1>she had some encouraging yeah words. I would say, she

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<v Speaker 1>had some ideas for how we can break our habits

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<v Speaker 1>that I think other people could use for their resolutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she really liked you had a specific resolution with

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<v Speaker 1>rules instead of saying I want to lose weight. No,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to have something more concrete than that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what you do? You're so smart you already knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see if you know, there's absolutely no guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>Should talk about measuring things? Yeah, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a way, can we find a way Becca

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<v Speaker 1>to quantify your Twitter consumption so that you can see

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<v Speaker 1>real results right from your abstinence from that? Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned an app to see how long you're spending on websites.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'll do that. Do that? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on vacation last week and didn't check Twitter really

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and I feel great. Yes, so maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just feel better. That's right, that's the hope. I think

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you will. My own experience has led me to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that you will. Thank you. Yeah. So she also with

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<v Speaker 1>the Twitter thing, if you're trying to break a bad

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>habit like that, she suggested making it hard. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really keep snacks around my apartment because you

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>need them, because I would eat them immediately. And it's

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>really embarrassing when I have any guests over because I'm

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>just I'm like, I don't have food. Sorry, sorry, um.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and then making things you want to do easy. Right,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>if I were to want to start working out, and

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I am not saying that I am, but if I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say I know what I'm gonna do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wake up at four thirty in the morning and

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>go running in January. No, No, I'd go during lunch exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading another one of these how to keep

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Habits guides and somebody gave the example of, you know,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you make your coffee every morning, so pair that habit

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>with some other good habit that you want to start,

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like he gave for example, eating an apple wonderful. I

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't do that in the morning, but

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>there's good fiber there. That's it's nutritious. Anyway, given all

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<v Speaker 1>of our new knowledge, do you think you'll keep yours?

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<v Speaker 1>I am pretty optimistic about this. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to see it through. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>more optimistic about the drinking than I am about the

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<v Speaker 1>to do Look. Yeah, same for you. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that once you lose a certain amount of weight you'll

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>go back to drinking? Perhaps not. Perhaps I'll feel better

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>not drinking as much, and I'll want to keep that feeling.

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I think one thing is for damn sure, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not we keep these resolutions, there will continue to be

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>an industry dedicated to helping us understand and keep these resolutions.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So many blog posts and books every year, um all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's time for happyig takes, Happy fake takes. Okay, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your half formed opinion for this week? The

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<v Speaker 1>first one? Becca, I'm coming out of the gates strong

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and in this miserable wintry season. I would like to

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>make an endorsement galoshes oh Man, that something I associate

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with Dad's hold on. Let me make my point. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go to work in the morning and there's tons

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of snow and sleet and muck on the ground, you

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<v Speaker 1>are likely to it on a pair of heavy winter boots, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you get to the office and you may

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<v Speaker 1>not want to wear those same boots all day long

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>because now you're in a perfectly climate controlled environment and

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they're big and heavy. Many people will bring an extra

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>pair of shoes. However, that good old fashioned rubber overshoe

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what you need. You put it on so

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that you can trape through puddles, and when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the office you just pull them off and boom.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Regular shoes, Dad product, no genius product. I saw yesterday

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a man walking in the rain in New York City

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>with a kid. You not plastic bags over his shoes.

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a man who cares about his footwear. It's time

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to have a little comeback for the Golosh. All right,

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>coming out strong for the Galosh. There we go, Decca,

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you have something not very well thought out that you

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>would like to share? Yes, yes, actually it's not mine.

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's from a friend of mine, Julia. Hello Julia. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a fan of the half big Take and

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>said that her hat big take is that when she

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<v Speaker 1>schedules meetings, she really tries her very hardest to cluster them. Also,

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they're back to back to back to back. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>her calendar is a nice like clump of meetings because

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>then you know you've been there. You have a meeting

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>at one, and then another two thirty, and then you

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>have that wasted time in there. Yeah, there's not really

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>enough time to do anything important, and it's true, it

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of eats up your whole day. So how I'm

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>curious though? Obviously meetings are determined by lots of different people,

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so how does she kind of make sure that it

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>all fits into her framework? So I asked her this

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and she said that she just asks people to move

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>them around, and if they don't show them move around.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>The meetings that she has the most control over with

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>fewer people or where she's leading it. I mean, it

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't always work out. But she set me a screenshot

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of her calendar and it was very clustered, very clumped.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I like that idea. Yeah, I think that's actually a

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty good idea. Yeah, all right, and that has been

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<v Speaker 1>By who Okay,