1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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Yeah, absolutely past the future, you know, thank 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: you for everything you have done and we'll continue to 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: do to protect our liveries and freedoms and this great country. 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So thank you out there to all the veterans. 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Indeed, shuts out well said, do you have snow Q? 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's oh yeah. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, all right, and it's sticking to the 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: ground too. It's cold enough. We ain't going anywhere right now. 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sticking. Yeah. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: How did the kids handle being in Florida for most 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: of their life and then now they're in the snow? 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Well they their jeans are though more like from the 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Midwest or Northeast, so they're not like the type too, 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, only no warm weather like some people on 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: the show you know where they grew up dodging golf balls. 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, the scariest thing they ever heard was, you know, 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: that's that's not man. You know, that's not their. 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Their lifestyle, and then claim to be a hater and 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: plus you can't feel cold because you're a vampire, Like 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: that's not. 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know he was talking about me. Oh, 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: sorry about that. 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonas, I was not dodging golf balls when I 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: was younger. Jonas like, I'm certain we didn't come to 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: that conclusion. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: I guarantee LeVar grew up with more money than I did. 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: Guarantee that's probably true. It's probably true. But my dad 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: was he he's one hundred percenter. You know, I ever 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: tell y'all the story about when my dad has to 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: go get reevaluated. They actually called my dad to come 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: in and get reevaluated. So every every so often, because 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent, yeah, he's one hundred percent disability, 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: he goes in. They're like, hello, sir, da da da. 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: So the record show he goes, before you go any further, 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: he goes just like this. He goes, okay, hey here 67 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: you go. Are we good? Here? They tried to give 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: my dad different prosthetics, like through the years now, his 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: legs are starting to get a little bit weaker because 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: he's getting a little older. So now he's like been 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: more you know, he's been more open to using the 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: updated technology. But my dad is straight old school, so 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: he's been would prosthetics like his entire time. So when 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: it walks, it like real sturdy bro like he stands 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: on my dad literally, like when they say give him 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: the wood, like, my dad literally has wood with him 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: at all times. He brings the wood. Baby shouts out 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: the big mic, big happy Veterans Day, Big Mike and 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: all in all of the Arringtons and Kaiser's and my 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: family that served. Yeah, man, So that's that's kind of interesting. 81 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know how we got off on that tangent. 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: But he brings the wood. That's for shirt, all right, 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: come on, let's go. 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is back practicing. 85 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals have opened up his twenty one day 87 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: practice return through the IRS twenty one day window coming 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: off the IR to practice. 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: If they do it, is there enough time? Is there 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: enough time for him to save the season for them? 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: I mean, if you listen to Joe Burrow, he explained 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: just sort of his healing process in dealing with the injury, 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: and also talked about the hope based on an abnormal 94 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: year for the AFC. 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: No, you talk to a lot of different people. 96 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: You talk to people who have been through it, even 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: understanding of what the injury is and what the repair is, 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: and then you just talk about it critically with the 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: doctor and the physical therapist and everybody involved, and you 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 4: just kind of take it day by day see how 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: it goes. Yeah, you know, our division is wide open. 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: I think Pittsburgh's five and four at this point. We 103 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: play them this week, so you know, everything is still 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: there in front of us. 105 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: Very rare that our. 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: Division looks like this, but it does this year, and 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, I think we'll be at least in it 108 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: until the end. I think it would be very difficult 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: for us to be a wildcard team at this point. 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: Obviously a lot, a lot of football to be played, 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: but you know, I think that's difficult. I think our 112 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: best path would be win the division. 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: It's over. 114 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: He's right, No, it's not. 115 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: It's over. 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: It's not over. 117 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: He's said he's back this weekend. That's what it sounds like. No, 118 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: he's coming. 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: What does he say, he's not saying that, he's just 120 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: talking about the division. 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: When would he come back? 122 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Probably not for another couple of weeks. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: If Joe Burrow comes back and this team is still 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: one game back, he's one hundred correct. It's a wide 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: open division, and it's a division that if Joe Burrow 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: comes back that they could possibly win if he stays oalthy. 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: Is he gonna play defense or is he just playing Quarterbacksang? Yeah, 128 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: because I'm sorry, I don't think that that's solvable. And 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: I think the Jets and Bears losses like kind of 130 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: ruined games they should have won, sort of ruined chances 131 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: for them to really give this a go. Like I 132 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: understand Baltimore, but if he's not back for another two 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: three weeks minimum, I just and it's not even like 134 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's playing poorly. He's playing really well, but defensively 135 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: they can't stop anybody, Like that's the issue going cue. 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I have my thoughts on it. 137 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: No, And to Jonas's point, I mean Flacco's thrown for 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: over twelve hundred yards in four starts, like he's been incredible. 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: He's averaging three hundred and thirteen three and fourteen yards 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: a game, eleven touchdowns, only two interceptions. Like their offense 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: isn't the issue, it's the defense. They are god awful 142 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: third down, red zone, whatever you want to point to. 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they are dead last and scoring dead last 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: and total yards. It's bad, man Like, it's it doesn't 145 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: matter by the way, Joe Flacco in this four game stretch, 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: statistically speaking, I don't. I mean, I don't have to 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: go back and look like has I know, I know 148 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: the one gave me three for more yards than Burrough 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: ever has. Like I'm not sure even Burrows had a 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: statistical stretch like Flacco's had as far as how much 151 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: he's how much he's put up, it's been pretty ridiculous. 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: But they're not out of it. They do have to 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: win the division in order to get back into it. 154 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: The problem is, if you look at their schedule, they 155 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: got three of the next four on the road, two 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: of which are divisional opponents on the road, So they've 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: got to play Pittsburgh. He's probably not going to be, 158 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, starting for this one, so he's not even 159 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: a part of that. You're then playing New England. I 160 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: know it's not a divisional game, but that's probably another 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: l even though you're hosting them. Then you go back 162 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: to back weeks at Baltimore at Buffalo. I don't know 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: that they win a game in that stretch. And again 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I realize, you know, not all those are divisional games, 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: but I just I don't foresee a team with a 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: losing record winning the AFC North. I think it'll be 167 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore or it'll be Pittsburgh. They'll have a winning record. 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: And I think both those two teams right now are 169 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: much further ahead of where Cincinnati's at, at least defensively. 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm not so doom and gloom on them. I think 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: the AFC North is wide open. I think they have 172 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: shown those teams have shown inconsistencies that say, to me, 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: anything is possible. Like there, I can't predict how this 174 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: is going to play out. And if Joe Burrow can 175 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: get back in the saddle, he's still Joe Burrow, even 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: if Flaco has thrown for more yards than him, even 177 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: if he's done well, even if the defense is played poorly, 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: it's Joe Burrow. And I feel like there's certain guys 179 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: that can have an impact on their team when they 180 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: have a return that that is impactful and profound, and 181 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is one of those guys. So I'm not 182 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm not dooming gloom on the Bengals chances of being 183 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: able to revive a season where they are third place 184 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: in a division that has a divisional leader with three wins, 185 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, or five five wins three? What is it? 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: Five wins? Three wins in the conference out? What is it? 187 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: Let me look at this, Let me look this back up. Yeah, 188 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: five wins, but three wins with three wins at home. 189 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, uh, because I was nerding out 190 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: looking through stats. Twenty twenty one, Burrow threw for five 191 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards and four touchdowns. 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: For the season. 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: No, no, No, in a single game. 194 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: Wait, god, that's that's damning. 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: Because FLA goes through for like four hundred and was 196 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: it seventy eighty something the other day. 197 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the most he's thrown for in his career. 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: That's a lot of that's a lot. 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: But I was curious as far as a Bengal though 200 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: Burrow threw for four eighty one and twenty twenty two, 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: five to twenty five and twenty twenty one, he's had 202 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: some of those like outliers huge games. Although I'd have 203 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: to go back and do like the the stats. I'm 204 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out if Burrow Burrow definitely threw four 205 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: the way he finished twenty twenty one, it would probably 206 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: average about or be about the number that Flacco has 207 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: been at in four games or four starts, because he 208 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: threw for five to twenty five and then four four 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: six in back to back weeks. 210 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: The Steelers have back to back losses. Correct that they 211 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: beat the Colts, they just beat the Colts this past weekend, 212 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: or makes lots of the Chargers they just lost to 213 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: the Charge. Yeah, I just think there's a there's inconsistencies. 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: And I know, I know you want to see a 215 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: better defense, and I would like to see a better 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: defense in the AFC North as well. But I just 217 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: think that some of these teams, especially in the AFC Ultimore, man, 218 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: you could say that until this weekend or the next 219 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: weekend after like okay, they're starting to heat up, like 220 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: maybe maybe Like I just still think it's been inconsistencies. 221 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: And when you don't see consistencies, I mean just like 222 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: to think that the Dolphins did what they did against Buffalo, 223 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: like the Buffaloes were supposed to be red hot or 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: or or heating up, like then they go and lose. 225 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: The guy dang Saints won a game. How's that happen? 226 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Damn? 227 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is what it is. It's just 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of inconsistencies and in. 229 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: This call your shot right now, who's gonna. 230 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: Call my shot? 231 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: Call your shot? 232 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: It's it's going to be the Pittsburgh Steelers that end 233 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: up winning it. And it's going to be in very 234 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: very like not not dramatic fascist, It's going to be, uh, 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: six picks, it's going to be. 236 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: Going to go with I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens. 237 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so's everybody else that's in in in the 238 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: betting lines at Vegas like that. What they're saying, My gosh, 239 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: what Larada has a pick? 240 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: Laradi? Just I mean, just do it, acappella if you 241 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: have to kidding? 242 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: Whoa that really was? 243 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: That? 244 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Really? Was it? 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Whins? 246 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: When's you really sounded? Just like the drop? 247 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: Just yeah, it's real. 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: That's a vital part of our show. 249 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: You know, Jonas, tell you why right now? I mean, 250 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: do you know how many weirdos are going to play 251 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: that back on the podcast. 252 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 5: I have been requested for cameo now, and I'm just 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 5: curious whatever they would want to use my voice for. 254 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, if you take it and accept it and do it, 255 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's you know, they get to use it. 256 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sure do. Do I get to do I 257 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: get to pick the same team as somebody else? Or 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: do I have to take one of the other teams? 259 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: The bigger question is you're on cameo. Huh No, I don't. 260 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't get how cameo came up, Like, how are 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: you on cameo to get a request? 262 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 5: No, it's been suggested that I should go do it 263 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: because of my my popularity with my drop for point. 264 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah you go, Brady. 265 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: I think the message said I listened to the show 266 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: every mon morning, and I just want to make a 267 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: suggestion to you in case you haven't thought of it yet. 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I think we SHO is trying hard to 269 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: get as many people as possible. 270 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. I didn't even know that was still 271 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: a thing. I don't know it was still a thing. 272 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunately on the downturn, what do 273 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: you what do you charge for something like that like, 274 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm not on and you can leave a voice note 275 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: for somebody or something like that. 276 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm not in need of that. I don't. It's not something, 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: all right? 278 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: So can I pick some same team as one of 279 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: you guys in the AFC North? 280 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean yeah, you don't have to pick 281 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: the saying or a different one. 282 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: Well quote the Ravens nevermore. Give me Baltimore. 283 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Here you go, locks. Baltimore has been boning us since 284 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: we started this show. You guys, go ahead and get 285 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: boned so more. 286 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's time to time to bone back, all right, Okay, 287 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: Baltimore is going to win that division like the way 288 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: they're playing, right, Like the way they're playing. They were 289 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: my super Bowl pick to come out of the AFC, 290 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: and I think Baltimore has figured something out here and 291 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: they're going to win the AFC North in a down year. 292 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: That's how that's going to go. Cincinnati, Ato Baltimore. 293 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: Nina Simone sang a song about Baltimore. You ever hear it? No, 294 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, Nina Simone is bring us back to Baltimore. 295 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: About Nina Simone, Lorena'd like it's a dope song, man, 296 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: I got you. She was talking about Baltimore. Man, So 297 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: maybe you guys you know, will end up being right. 298 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're jumping on chees choosing ship, so 299 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: to speak. I mean, you know, he's not taking on 300 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: any water. It's doing really well. He's up real high 301 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: on on our weekly pick. So there you go. But 302 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: it's not how you start, it's how you finish. 303 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: But we're going to look back on this little stretch 304 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: and say, this is where Pittsburgh could have really created 305 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: some separation and they didn't and didn't do it, and 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: that's where they left the door open for any insty potential. 307 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: It's interesting because you could be right, but I don't know. 308 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: If it's for Baltimore, could be for Cincinnati. 309 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know this. Getting a new job can 310 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: be so much easier with Express Employment Professionals. 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Somebody has taken over the 348 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: reins in the NFL struggling team needed to make a switch. 349 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: We will get the details on that for you here 350 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. So I thought the Brian Kelly 351 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: LSU firing was just going to be, hey, like the 352 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: rest of them, guy gets fired, guy gets clipped, gets 353 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: to keep a giant check of chair, and then we 354 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: were just going on, and now there's Brian Kelly's attorneys 355 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: say that LSU have not quote formally terminated Brian Kelly 356 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: according to a petition, Yeah, according to a petition. They 357 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: say that they're trying to fire him for cause because 358 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: they're trying to avoid paying him the fifty four million 359 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: dollars they owe him. What the F's going on with 360 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: Brian Kelly? 361 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: This is this is pretty typical. This is what universities 362 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: try to do. They kind of put the cart before 363 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: the horse. You fired them, not maybe having all the 364 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: funds everything necessary to be able to pay them out, 365 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 1: and maybe they feel like they've got a case against 366 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: them to fire them with cause. Who knows, that'll probably 367 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: be decided upon at some point in the distant future. 368 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: But that's just how this works, man. Like you know, 369 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: the university sign up for these contracts, they'll try to, 370 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, make sure during the course of the tenure 371 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: of the coach they're taking note of any little mishap 372 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: or mistake. It could be recruiting violations, it could be 373 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: things you know that happen outside of the realm of coaching. 374 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. So they're gonna look 375 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: for any any little thing that would potentially trigger a 376 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: clause in their contract that would be you know, detrimental 377 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: to them earning out what money is there owed if 378 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: they're fired. And that's where we're at. So it will 379 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: be that way for Brian Kelly. It'll probably be a 380 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: long time before he's able to figure out if you 381 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: will get indeed the full fifty four million. And here's 382 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: the and I don't know if there's offsets or not 383 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: within his contract. What I find most interesting about it 384 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: is if there is offsets, meaning if he went somewhere 385 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: else and coached ELISU would be off the hook for 386 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: a portion of whatever he was owed because he's making 387 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: X somewhere else, you know, whatever that amount is. I 388 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: don't know that Brian Kelly has a great reputation right 389 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: now in the college football space. I feel like he 390 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: hired a firm before the season, I think to help 391 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: reshape his image. If that was the case, that was 392 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: a disaster the way the season's gone. I mean, obviously 393 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the way he conducted himself is mostly to blame, never 394 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: wanting to, you know, take blame for things or talk 395 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: to the media as if you know they didn't have 396 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: issues offensively, I mean the whole you know, arguing about 397 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the running game that the running running shing attack's been awful, 398 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: and it's like he at no point was he ever 399 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: really open and real about the difficulties they were going through, 400 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: in particular on offense, and it you know, one thing 401 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: led to another. But the point is, I don't know 402 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be up for another head coaching job. 403 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's some big job openings that are there, 404 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone would hire him. I'm not sure it's 405 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna be to the level of LSU. I'm not sure 406 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the level to Notre Dame. There's gonna 407 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: be a bunch of places that I think want to 408 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: hire a head coach, but I'm not sure they're gonna 409 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: be able to or they're gonna want to bring on 410 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: somebody who's got this sort of reputation. 411 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Right now, I don't think so, not at a major university, 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: because the states are way too high these days. I 413 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: think if there was ever an opportunity for a guy 414 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: like Brian Kelly to be able to go from one 415 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: school to the next under these circumstances, because his last 416 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: his last departure, it wasn't a it wasn't tumultuous, It 417 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: wasn't it wasn't bad. It wasn't like he got fired 418 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: and he moved on. He left, he left, and and 419 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: I would say the stain of how he rolled out 420 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: on Notre Dame was noted. 421 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: So now you got he did the same thing to Cincinnati, 422 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: by the way, to go to you did. 423 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Do it, and and and listen, I don't think anybody 424 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: would would put that in and I mean you can 425 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: put it as as as on record that this is 426 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: what he he makes a habit of doing. He'll he'll 427 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: step out on you, like he'll roll out on you. 428 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: But it was never under the terms of failure. It 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: was always he's he's such a good coach that we 430 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 2: believe he's a winning coach. We believe we can win 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: with him, so we're gonna take him away. This is 432 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: not that scenario. And so when how you handle things 433 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: in good times says a lot about your character, how 434 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: you handle things in bad times says to me a 435 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: whole lot more about your character. And he didn't handle 436 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: the LSU situation properly. He was abrasive there. There's a 437 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: lot of things that could be used, a lot of words, 438 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: uh that could be used that would explain and describe 439 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: what people felt and and and kind of observed from 440 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: from Brian Kelly and how he handled things like ego, maniac, 441 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: I've heard, I've heard narcissistic, I've heard a lot of 442 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: things that came out about how people feel about Brian Kelly. 443 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: He also comes across as dishonest. 444 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: That that and very disingenuous. Right the n I l 445 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: era of time, the transferred portal. You can't have a 446 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: coach that brings the elements to the table that Brian 447 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: Kelly brings to the table. Who would who would pay 448 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: the type of money that Brian Kelly is gonna want 449 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: for the amount of time that he's gonna want it 450 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: for to deal with But the potentials of what you're 451 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: going to have to deal with with the issues that 452 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: come with higher and Brian Kelly, that's what's going to 453 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: work against him the most if you ask me. 454 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: And the fact that he's not going to be a 455 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: serious candidate for any of these bigger jobs. Like you 456 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: don't hear the same things being said about James Franklin, 457 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: who's also you know, been fired this year. 458 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: You guys, you've not only heard a lot of support 459 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: about James Franklin, but you haven't really heard anything else here. 460 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: It's gone quiet. 461 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: Because he's there's you don't get this disingenuous vibe from 462 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: him to where you know, when he left Cincinnati, I 463 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: can remember that that was in two thousand and nine. 464 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: I think Marty Gilliard was one of the players for 465 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: Cincinnati who was pissed about it because he was dishonest 466 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: about that with the players there, and they were upset 467 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: when he when he left, and you can understand why 468 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: he would take the Notre Dame job, but he wasn't 469 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: forthright about that, and then how the Notre Dame stuff happened. 470 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: He gets to LSU. He's got a fake Cajun accent. 471 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: You know, he's dancing in some you know video with 472 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 3: a recruit who signs with Alabama. The whole thing it 473 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: just and at some point, like I just wonder if 474 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: people are looking at this going what do we like, 475 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: does this guy even know who he is? 476 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Like? 477 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: What are we getting from him? 478 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: He knows? 479 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I think the other thing is like 480 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, you know, got better, Like he leaves and 481 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: they're playing for a national championship. You know, you look 482 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, they've maintained for the most part, that's a 483 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: program that you could make the case he built up, 484 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: but at the same time it was able to maintain 485 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: after he left, which which a number of good coaches 486 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: have come through there. But you kind of look at 487 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: it in just car right, you know, he got the 488 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: levels where I think he put him good you know, 489 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: a good foundation. But the truth of the matter is 490 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: how he conducted himself in today's college football world. It 491 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: just doesn't match up with the way he was able 492 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: to have success in the past. And I think the 493 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: last thing I'll point out is, do you remember the 494 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: person who was calling for his head, who was so 495 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: outspoken when all this stuff went down. It was Jeff 496 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: Landry the governor. 497 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna say, Brady quint. 498 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: No, it's Jeff Landry the governor, And where's he at now? 499 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: Now? 500 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Now LSU was on the hook to pay out the 501 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: fifty four million, where's he at? He's not gonna be 502 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: involved any of this stuff. You know, all those people 503 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: who wanted to get behind the governor being ah, yeah, 504 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: that's our governor. He's calling out our head. Quote, we 505 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: need to find a new head football coach. Okay, do 506 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: you think he's involved and all the hell this is 507 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: all gonna shake out? Hell no? So I just I 508 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: sit there and I look at this whole situation as 509 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: they look for a new head coach and go it. 510 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: It feels, I don't want to say it, like a disaster, 511 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: but for a program that can turn things around and 512 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: have the best chance of any of the job openings. 513 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, LeVar to win a national championship the next 514 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: five years, I would say, that's lsu. It feels like 515 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: this is just messy and it's not just Brian Kelly's 516 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: to blame. I will see was a part of this too, 517 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: and all those parties who want to up push him 518 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: out so fast before it was really necessary. 519 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any issues with what you said. 520 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: To be honest. 521 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know the people know this 522 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: because I honestly wasn't fully aware of the change that's 523 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: happened in the transfer portal when a coach gets fired. 524 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: So on October seventh, they instituted a rule where when 525 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: a coach is fired, players don't have an open thirty 526 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: day window anymore. Prior to that, like when Mike Gunny 527 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: got fired this season in Oklahoma State, all those players 528 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: had a thirty day window that was open where they 529 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: could jump into the transfer portal and they could say 530 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: bye bye. That is not the case any longer for 531 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: these teams. When your coach gets fired, if it's at 532 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: October seventh or after, these kids can't transfer until the 533 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: transfer portal window opens come January or until the new 534 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: head coach is officially hired, there's a fifteen day period 535 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: in which there's almost like an acclamation period. The coach 536 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: gets to meet the player, they kind of talk about 537 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: things and so forth, and then there's a five day 538 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: period that opens up after those first fifteen days once 539 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: he's hired, and that's where those players can then transfer. 540 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: So it's I think it's even different too in how 541 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: teams or universities are handling how they go about firing, 542 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: because they used to be concerned about firing because they 543 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: were afraid they're going to lose the entire roster. Everyone's 544 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: just going to transfer out. 545 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and now that's chansible because the kids. 546 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: Can't do that. 547 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Franklin one day fire coach Franklin was that after that date. 548 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: I can look that up because that's an interesting piece 549 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: of information because, let me tell you something. 550 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: They fired him on October twelfth, so they would not 551 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: be grandfather clause into that. So some of those players 552 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: can transfer until they hire a new head coach. 553 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: And that's interesting because these players are still shook and 554 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: shaken an upset about James Franklin in the way he 555 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: was let go. The players are now I don't know 556 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: if that means. I mean, there's these are a lot 557 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: of high quality, like you know, character players that that 558 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: are on this team. I think the world of a 559 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: lot of these guys and and how they handle things. 560 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: But this has been a tough year for them, and 561 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: and they they definitely feel as though the way you know, 562 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: that that whole thing was handled with the coach was 563 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: not okay, Like a lot of a lot of hurt feelings, 564 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: a lot of guys upset, And I'm not so sure 565 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: that someone who didn't have a tremendous a tremendous tie 566 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: to what coach Franklin brought to the table for them 567 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: to come here would have been Like I don't know 568 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: that Penn State or playing for Penn State would have 569 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: been enough to keep them here. I don't know. So 570 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting piece of information there, because 571 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these guys are old old 572 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: heads anyway, so it's not even about transfer and they're 573 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: leaving like their time as a college player is done. 574 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: Like this is very heavy senior led last year led teams. 575 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: So but for the younger guys, I mean that would 576 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: have been very interesting to see because there are a 577 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: few players, like a handful, not a lot. It's not 578 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: going to be a lot of guys, but there are 579 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: a handful of guys that one hundred percent the top power. 580 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, everybody's starting to try to adopt the power 581 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: to as the reference, like forget the other two. It's 582 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: a power to power too in college football that are 583 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: coming after players that are at Penn State. So it'd 584 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: be interesting to see how the transfer portal looks for 585 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: any of these major major programs that have had going 586 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: through a coaching change. 587 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: Can I read a quote to you, guys, and you 588 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: try and guess the coach? All right, guess which coach 589 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: said this? 590 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: All right? 591 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: This is a coach of a of a program that 592 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: we've all seen. 593 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: That has been fired. Just a career coach. 594 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: All right, I'm just going to read this. 595 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: Point great with names, I won't get it, So here 596 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: we go. Quote. 597 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: I've actually won a championship and we're going to do 598 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: it again. We're going to do it here. That might 599 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: piss people off, so be it. They'll be celebrating when 600 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: we're hoisting a trophy, and it will be the belief 601 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: that I see from our players, the belief that I 602 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: see from our coaches, the talent that I know that 603 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: our players have and the guys that are coming to 604 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: be a part of this. Can you guess you didn't 605 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: even have to name the coach. 606 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's never won a national title. 607 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, it wouldn't be Brian Kelly, but it sounds. 608 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Like Brian Kelly. It's kelly Ish, yeah, ask. 609 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no idea like let's have a championship. They 610 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: talk like a national champian. 611 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know he's one at lower levels, you know, 612 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: lower level guy. But it's this is a prestigious program. 613 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: You know, this is a program that we've grown up with, 614 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: a program we've seen, you know, do. 615 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: Amazing lesser of a program. 616 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: Somebody who was actually part of the you know, college 617 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: football Urban Meyers Championship discussion, Rban. 618 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Meyer wouldn't say anything like that. He wouldn't say it 619 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: like that. It would be definitely not in that manner. 620 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, I don't know. 621 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: Is it Mike Norvell at Florida State? 622 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: That is correct, Brady Quinn, you are the winner Mike. 623 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Norvel that we grow up with, Like Whlorida State. 624 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: Florida State was a powerhouse back in the day. 625 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: So you're saying he took that to Florida State and 626 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: said that. 627 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just said that. Recently, there's been a lot 628 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: of people calling for his job as well too. 629 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, how things went. That's the latest. That's the latest 630 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: conversation is Mike Norvale. Obviously, that's interesting. I wouldn't even 631 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: got that, like, which is tough because I don't know 632 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: who he is. 633 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Like that, you go back and you look at that 634 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three year, they go thirteen and one, mind 635 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: you pounded by Georgia, I mean, my gosh, and a 636 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Georgia team that was like not playing with many of 637 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: their starters. But that being said, thirteen and one, they 638 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: finished sixth in the country. That was the high point. 639 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: You know. The next year they go back in the 640 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: transfer portal, spend a lot of money on players. It 641 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: was an absolute disaster. They're two and ten, one in 642 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: seven in conference play. Doesn't work out. This year. They're 643 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: four and five after that big win over Alabama to 644 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: start the season, which looks like an incredible one. Even 645 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: now they're one and five again in conference play. It 646 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: just it feels like it's going in the wrong direction 647 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: and always when I see when I see a trend 648 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: like this, I always wonder, you know, what, how much 649 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: of a difference would have been made for Mike Norvell 650 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: had they gotten into the playoff that year. Had they had, 651 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: they potentially won the national championship, even though they would 652 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: have gotten their doors kicked in. I mean, Georgia didn't 653 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: even make it, and again they were playing with a 654 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: bunch of backups and they still you know, wipe the 655 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: floor with Florida State. But it was a good season, 656 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: and but you wonder, like what would have happened or 657 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: would things have worked out differently for Florida State bottom 658 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: some time, well not even time, like just with that 659 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: next season that would have been as bad as it was. 660 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean from my intel, you know, they did a 661 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: terrible job at talent evaluation and figure out guys who 662 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: are the right fit. And you know, from that twenty 663 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty three season, it just feels like they haven't been 664 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: able to build off the foundation that Mike Norvell initially started, 665 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: which was a rough, rough start during COVID and then 666 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: slowly started to build up and get there. Like twenty 667 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty two, there were ten wins, you know, season and 668 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: then obviously that again, twenty twenty three, they're their best 669 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: season under his tenure. But it feels like this is 670 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: a coach who's going to be entering the high if 671 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: he's ends up making it through this and he doesn't 672 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: get fired, you walk into twenty twenty six and go, 673 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: He's immediately in the hot seat. And that is the 674 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: toughest thing to fundraise too, Like what alumni is going 675 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: to be sitting there thinking, well, if this guy gets 676 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: off to a bad start, he's gonna get fired. So 677 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: why do I want to put money into the program. 678 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: If you're a recruit, you're the parents same thing. This 679 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: guy who's recruiting me right now might not even be 680 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: here throughout the entire twenty twenty sixth season. It seems 681 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: like we're venturing into a world now where a lot 682 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: of the decisions on these head coaches need to be 683 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: more absolute, where it's just if you're thinking about if 684 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: you feel like he's on that hot. 685 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: Seat at all, take handle it. 686 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: You almost have to move on go just because of 687 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: everything else that comes along with you know, you know, 688 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: dealing with it a year from now, and the struggles 689 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: of fundraising, which is everything in college sports. 690 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I believe there's a strong 691 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: chance Clemson's going to be looking for a new head 692 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: coach and Florida State will be looking for a new 693 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: head coach. You got LSU out there already. I'm not 694 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: so sure you don't put every last one of those 695 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: schools ahead of Penn State, but then throw Penn State 696 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: into the equation as well. I'm if I'm a guy 697 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: like James Franklin, I know, you know, we've heard the 698 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: speculation and the things being discussed about Virginia Tech, you know, 699 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: opening it up for Franklin to come in, which I 700 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: think would be a great, a great gift for Virginia Tech. 701 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: But if I'm James Franklin, you know I can behind 702 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: closed doors, I don't think it would be wise to 703 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: be the type of person because of what we've just 704 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: talked about. You don't want to ruin your reputation as 705 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: a person. I think he has a very strong reputation 706 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: as a person for not being cocky, arrogant, narcissistic or 707 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: anything like that. Just very very well received person. I 708 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: think he's he probably hasn't taken that job at Virginia 709 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: Tech because of one of those jobs that we just 710 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: mentioned in terms of Florida State, Clemson, maybe even LSU, 711 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: you know who knows. But it'll be interesting to see 712 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: who does lose their job at year's end and who 713 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: they fill them with, because that fundraising part is that's 714 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: a very very big piece of of what it is 715 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: the biggest piece of all of this is the fundraising 716 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: aspect of it. And the relationship between a head coach 717 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 2: and the AD and the president or whatever, the chancellor 718 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: whoever runs the school that trinity, that is a very 719 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: very serious relationship that has to be on the up 720 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: and up for things to work. 721 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 3: It's two Pros and a cup of Joe here on 722 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, and this show is sponsored by DraftKings 723 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 3: sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA, 724 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: And right now use the promo code two pros to 725 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: claim your special offer a DraftKings Again, that's promo code 726 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: two Pros and DraftKings. The crown is yours. Up next, 727 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: we got a change in command and in the NFL, 728 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: and it's yours right here on FSR. Shut the Sheriff. 729 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: Yep wrong. 730 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 3: Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio 731 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you hair coming 732 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: off top of next hour a little over ten minutes 733 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: from now. Shots fired, Shots fired from one coach to 734 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: one program in the world of football. We'll get into 735 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: that for you here on FSR before we get to 736 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: this story in the NFL, but a change in command. 737 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: I want to let you know. The home depot Makita 738 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 3: tools are built for the pros who show up early 739 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: with tools built the last job after job, year after year. 740 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: When the job calls for the best call on Makita 741 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: available at the home depot, how pros get more done. 742 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: That's Nana Simone, by the way. That's Baltimore. That song 743 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: on y'all, it's a clean song man. She's dope, dope 744 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 2: dope artists. I mean she's not here anymore, but she 745 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: was a dope artist. 746 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: You know it's not dope. The Washington Commanders, uh oh, 747 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: that team stinks. Dan Quin, the head coach now taking 748 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: over play calling duties on the defensive side for the 749 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: team following to. 750 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: Try to save your job. 751 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 3: You think it's jobs in jeopardy. 752 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: He was playffs last year. 753 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying his job is in jeopardy. 754 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you don't want to get to the 755 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: point of where it is. If you do something better 756 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: than somebody else that's on your staff, and you're the 757 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: headed staff, then why not do it, you know, why 758 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 2: not do something that's going to make your team better. 759 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: So if he's just had the conversation with Dan Campbell right. 760 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 3: Like cutting his balls off. 761 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: So we're currently thirtieth in the NFL, so defensively they 762 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: are struggling to your point three and seven, feels like 763 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: if they don't make a run now, they might have 764 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: a hard time getting into the playoffs. And remember this 765 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: is a defense that was like thirteenth in the NFL 766 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: last year, So it's been a pretty big dramatic decl 767 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: lined from where they were makes sense. I mean, that's 768 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: why Dan Quinn got the job in the first place, 769 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: is defensive acumen. 770 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: He is known for the defense. That's how they went 771 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl in Atlanta. And well some would 772 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 2: say offense too, but I just I think that Dad 773 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: Quinn is I think Dad Quinn is a fine football coach, 774 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: fine man, and he'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. 775 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: They'll write the ship. So shouts out to dan Quinn. 776 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: Did Jaden Daniel's arm fall off or is he fine 777 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: based on the criticism he got. 778 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: I think it's still there.