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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in

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Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the bonus Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I heart radio app Welcome in. It's a Monday. Which

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Speaker 2: is what I don't want to do is I don't

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Speaker 2: want to diminish our weekend radio friends, our weekend radio shows.

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Speaker 2: At Fox Sports Radio. Dan Byer works with us. He

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Speaker 2: hosts a show with Carry Rhodes every Sunday, and he

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Speaker 2: does a great job of it. You know, we have

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Speaker 2: Rich Ormberger on. He co hosts the show every Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not diminishing Saturday and Sunday radio. Saturday and

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Speaker 2: Sunday radio is just generally different. Right. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: like in news, when you have bad news, they call

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Speaker 2: it news dump Friday and holiday weekend, especially if you

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Speaker 2: have a bad story, you dump it after four o'clock

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Speaker 2: so the press can't run. They still run with it,

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Speaker 2: but people are less inclined to pay attention to news

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Speaker 2: stories on a Saturday and a Sunday. By the time

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Speaker 2: news cycle. I bring that up because the Shoheo Tani

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Speaker 2: on Friday night had what many people consider the greatest

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Speaker 2: single postseason baseball performance of all time. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: sit here and judge it. I'm just not I don't

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Speaker 2: have the historic knowledge, but I can tell you that,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like, if we're going back to compareing

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Speaker 2: to Bait Ruth, then it's pretty amazing. He strikes out

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Speaker 2: by the way, he hit three home runs, including one

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Speaker 2: out of the stadium into the pavilion, and the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: just super unique that it happened on a Friday night.

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Speaker 2: It also happened in baseball, all right. Baseball is not

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Speaker 2: king like it used to be. But it happened on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't get that. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure I relate to that well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about how much are people talking about

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Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of it. I've actually heard a

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Speaker 3: lot of it. I think that certain things, I think

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Speaker 3: don't see these kinds of performances in sports. Everyone has

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Speaker 3: to have an opinion of it, and to be honest,

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Speaker 3: like the greatest performance of all time, I would say,

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Speaker 3: by now, that's kind of an old topic. By now.

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Speaker 3: Now it's just more of kind of a reflection and

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Speaker 3: what happens moving forward with the Dodgers, what team would

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Speaker 3: they rather play tonight? But as far as the actual moment,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can make a convincing argument to

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Speaker 3: I've never heard about, and I've watched and followed baseball

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Speaker 3: the answer to your question.

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Speaker 2: No, it's yeah. I I do think the next question

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Speaker 2: Does it help? Sure? I also don't get the pressure argument.

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Speaker 2: It's like again, I think we kind of overthink these

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Speaker 3: My theory is this my theory, And I said it

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why we saw the greatest performance

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Speaker 2: I like that. Uh, okay, I'll take it into consideration.

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Speaker 2: My thing would would be, I don't there's lots of

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Speaker 2: baseball has always been about what your average is, and

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Speaker 2: don't know. I just that was as memorable a time

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it's obscene and like do I do

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Speaker 2: an amazing night. It now the second greatest performance I've

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Speaker 2: again to day it is still Kirk Gibson. But the

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Speaker 2: Carry Rhodes having this reaction to the Broncos come back

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Speaker 2: win against the Giants yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I honestly feel bad for the Green Bay Packers and

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Speaker 5: they won today. The reason being is they had a

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Speaker 5: it just was completely overshadowed by the craziness that was

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Speaker 5: became the first team in NFL history to score thirty

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Speaker 6: I think the score operator put eight points on there,

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Speaker 5: We had a missed extra point in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Let's just be real. Then the Broncos have these amazing plays.

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Speaker 2: it feels like we've never seen that before, and I've

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Speaker 2: or I've seen them do it. It's actually happened right

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Speaker 2: that big a deal. It absolutely is. University of Wyoming,

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Speaker 2: How how long does it take you to recover from that?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know the answer to it, but it

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Speaker 4: Dallas offensively has been phenomenal, like really really day.

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Speaker 3: Scott's been great.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Doug. This is gonna pain me because I really

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Speaker 7: Getting pretty steemed actually because I'm still retailing in my

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Speaker 2: Are you out of your mind? Are you out of

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Never fuck with a winning street.

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Speaker 3: So, especially in baseball, superstition is a kind of built

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Speaker 2: national championship at Auburn, You dip shit. God, there's lots

434
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Speaker 2: of busts. There's lots of successful people, fucking name them. God,

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Speaker 2: you sound like the dumbest motherfucker I've ever heard. What else?

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Speaker 10: You?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Fuck it? That's annoying. It's annoying that Cam Newton is

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Speaker 2: only on TV because he complained because, oh, they don't

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Speaker 2: want to hire me because I'm a black man. They

441
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Speaker 2: won't hire me on TV. We all remember it happened

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Speaker 2: early this year. That's why you got the job. First

443
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Speaker 2: take and you only got it because shitnon charp fucked

444
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Speaker 2: up right, he wears these hats he's got out like whatever.

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Speaker 2: Dude is an odd fucking duck. He was crazy talented. Okay,

446
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Speaker 2: here's how stupid Cam Newton is. He doesn't even realize

447
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Speaker 2: the only reason that he's on TV really is because

448
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Speaker 2: he want to ask championship Auber. That's it. Because he

449
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Speaker 2: actually won, and the only reason he won a Heisman

450
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Speaker 2: is because he wanted to ask the championship and when

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Speaker 2: he had the moment. He had one moment in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl in which he could have said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: fuck it. I'm like he actually said, remember, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is the great thing about working in the media

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Speaker 2: for almost twenty five years. I remember all this shit.

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Speaker 2: He got done with the Super Bowl. They asked him

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Speaker 2: why he didn't jump on the ball, and he's like, man,

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Speaker 2: I gotta protect my legs. What it's the fucking Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: fucking balls on the field, Go get it. Nope, don't

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Speaker 2: want to. Then he didn't want to answer questions about it.

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Speaker 2: Then they go back to Carolina additional questions and he

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Speaker 2: was even worse about it, Like, dude butchered the biggest

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Speaker 2: moment of his life. And then when you finally get

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to be on TV only because you begged

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Speaker 2: for it, which is like, look, dude, I would beg

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Speaker 2: to be on TV. Matter of fact, I did when

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Speaker 2: I ever got onto TV when I was, but I

468
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Speaker 2: wasn't a Heisman Trophy when I wasn't the number one

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft, wasn't an MVP of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Non't he remembers that shit, They'll remember they won NAT

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Speaker 2: champishit won a Heisman Trophy. You're so fucking misgiving. You

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Speaker 2: have no idea about how the world works. That's amazing,

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Speaker 2: that's fucking annoying.

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Speaker 3: So a week ago, Aaron Glenn made this segment. Then

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Speaker 3: he made the segment two days later. Uh, then we

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Speaker 3: did it on the air. So the Aaron Glenn to

477
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Speaker 3: me is a gift that keeps on giving. Content wise,

478
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Speaker 3: they got thoroughly embarrassed yesterday. And remember, I want to

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Speaker 3: remind listeners of how Aaron Glenn opened his opening press

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Speaker 3: conference back in February.

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Speaker 11: Players, that's here. Now, put your seat belt zone and

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Speaker 11: get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelt zone and

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Speaker 11: get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to

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Speaker 11: be some challenges, but with challenges because the opportunity gets opportunity.

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Speaker 11: But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New

486
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Speaker 11: York Jets, so we're built.

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Speaker 10: For this shit.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So the one thing that really sticks out there

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Speaker 3: and that people loved about it is all the swagger,

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Speaker 3: all that confidence. Like that that is a man who

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Speaker 3: is just talking the talk. And then this exchange happens

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Speaker 3: last Sunday after Justin Field has had one of the

493
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Speaker 3: worst games a quarterback has ever had. I think justice

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Speaker 3: knocking this team.

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Speaker 2: No, you going to be your quarterback next week?

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Speaker 6: Or come on, man, what kind of question is that

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Speaker 6: now your game?

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Speaker 11: There's a number of guys that you know, I mean

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Speaker 11: sometimes this league is like this and there are guys

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Speaker 11: that have bad games.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't mean you just bnch them.

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Speaker 11: Come on, you know better than that?

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Speaker 3: Again, swagger, defiance. This guy is not going to be

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Speaker 3: broken after the game yesterday were the Jets loss, and

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Speaker 3: then he showed up to the facility today. I want

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Speaker 3: you to kind of uh, I want you to realize

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Speaker 3: the tone that he takes with this after getting hammered

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Speaker 3: for a week by the second market size or the

509
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Speaker 3: biggest market size in our country, hammered for the way

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Speaker 3: he handled the questions last week. Here a change in

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Speaker 3: tone this week.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's something that you know, I want to continue

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Speaker 11: to look at again as early on Monday, you know.

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Speaker 11: So I'll say it this yesterday that there's a lot

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Speaker 11: of thought that goes into that for me personally, and

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Speaker 11: then being able to gel with the staff, and then

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Speaker 11: just being to ask other coaches that have been in

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Speaker 11: the situation how they handle that. So I'm not running

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Speaker 11: away from the question at all.

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Speaker 6: Rich.

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Speaker 11: The thing is, I want to make sure that I

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Speaker 11: make the right decision, and I don't want to make

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Speaker 11: rad decisions either.

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Speaker 3: So now he's polite, he's noncommittal, he's more cliched, Doug,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what producer you want, but every day

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Speaker 3: when you say what's the lead? What if one day

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Speaker 3: I was just like, you know what, I'm just going

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Speaker 3: to take a pull of all the other producers I know, uh,

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Speaker 3: and we'll get back to you guys, I you know,

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Speaker 3: or do you want somebody who's got an answer quick

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Speaker 3: and ready?

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Speaker 2: I want quick and ready, I want prepared. I just look,

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Speaker 2: I understand that here's how it'll go. Okay, if he

534
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: gets fired, he'll you know, people who would defend him

535
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Speaker 2: will say, well that the media tried to to gotcha.

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Speaker 2: He made a lot of these fights, he said a

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Speaker 2: lot of these things. So again, I I just it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of false bravado and I get it.

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Speaker 2: The guy who he had great success with is Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell said some things which are a bit odd,

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Speaker 2: but Dan Campbell just has this ability to generate energy

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Speaker 2: in a room that I don't know if he has so. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like either is more articulate than the

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Speaker 2: other either, as bet, It's just there's just a feeling

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Speaker 2: you get where one is sort of like Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 2: sort of a WWE kind of character, but he's a

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Speaker 2: likable one. Oras I don't know, Aaron doesn't feel as likable.

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Speaker 2: It feels, like you said, more defiant than motivational.

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Speaker 3: So last week I said, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: in like an Urban Meyer situation or a Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't think it's going to end before

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Speaker 3: the end of the year, but it's definitely going to

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Speaker 3: end afterwards. Yeah, and you said you think he's going

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Speaker 3: to last and do a second year. Are you a

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Speaker 3: week later. Are you less confident in that prediction?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah I do. And you know, look,

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Speaker 2: if he's going to go down the Justin Fields you

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Speaker 2: know ship, just no, I mean, like just look around.

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Speaker 2: You know, as much as no one thinks Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: can play anymore, Pittsburgh thought he was better than Justin Fields, right,

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Speaker 2: Chicago could have kept him even though you know, and

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Speaker 2: they obviously drafted Kayleb Williams Like, nope, you're going down

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Speaker 2: on a sinking ship and you're defiant about it, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just look, I've you know, first years are really

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Speaker 2: really hard, really hard, and it does feel like the

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Speaker 2: world is out against you, and I get it, like

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Speaker 2: you start having guys go down, guys aren't as good

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Speaker 2: as you thought. But those are the times in which

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Speaker 2: you have to con you have to have a way

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Speaker 2: that you keep everyone or as many the guys that

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Speaker 2: are playing are still completely bought in on ultimately playing

572
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Speaker 2: for each other and playing to give give it all

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Speaker 2: they have, even if everyone knows they're not going to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. But he spirals into a higher level of defiance,

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Speaker 2: and I, yeah, I'm less confident that it goes to

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Speaker 2: season two. Aaron, you don't want it. If you don't

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Speaker 2: win a game, you're not You're not keeping your.

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Speaker 3: Job, Aaron, Glenn cam Newton, Bill.

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton's fucking annoying.

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Speaker 1: And why are we doing this? Because we can?

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Speaker 3: All right, So this got a lot of play yesterday.

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Speaker 3: This was on live TV. I think it's cute that

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Speaker 3: Tommy Romo feels the need to apologize, uh for a

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Speaker 3: fuck bomb being on national TV. I did hear afterwards

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Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes taking a lot of credit for the acting job.

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Speaker 3: The setup is this, Uh, they go to the line,

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Speaker 3: they start doing the uh. I don't know what do

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Speaker 3: you call that mock count or whatever count you try

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Speaker 3: to draw off sides. Pat Mahomes throws his hands up

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Speaker 3: and says what he says, you're about to hear, and

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Speaker 3: then they call a play and they get the first down. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he took a lot of credit for the acting on this,

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Speaker 3: and he said he's gotten a lot of reps with

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Speaker 3: the State Farm commercial. I'm a movie snob and I'm

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Speaker 3: very I'm very like I guess you would say critical

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Speaker 3: of acting. This is not great acting. This is not

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Speaker 3: great acting. But go ahead, trying to draw them off.

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Speaker 1: So never worked. Man, Sorry, my home says coach.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they got Yeah, you would give it up on

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Speaker 11: that one.

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Speaker 4: You thought for sure as a draw it did you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what what didn't work for you?

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Speaker 2: You want to know it is? What What didn't work

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Speaker 2: for you was how cheesy jim Nantz was with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you because I actually thought it was really good.

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Speaker 2: That's that. That's a I haven't have you seen that before?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard that before?

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Speaker 3: I have not, No, no, that it's never been done.

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Speaker 3: According to Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's ever. Yeah, I don't take to it.

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Speaker 2: But I think the part that made it less quality

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Speaker 2: acting was it felt like Nance was either in on

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Speaker 2: it or he tried to play it off as such.

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Speaker 2: And oh he had you on that one. I thought that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the part that didn't sit well with you.

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Speaker 2: Why can we play it for you? Because we can.

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Speaker 2: That's it for the in the Modus podcast. Check at

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