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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: Just keep talking, yeah, fight through it, just fight on. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't think your microphone is on, for whatever that's worth. Hey, Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman here, I'm not I'm here. Yeah, just there you.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys, welcome to another episode of The Break. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Derek is not here, but we have Bryan broad Is

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Speaker 1: filling filling in for him today. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to talk about. The the Marcus deal finally

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Speaker 1: got done after a lot of discussions, and last week

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Speaker 1: I think we were headed to the point where we

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Speaker 1: thought things weren't really gonna maybe not work out. You know,

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Speaker 1: things were getting a lot of discussions there where it

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Speaker 1: wasn't headed that way anyways. DeMarcus Lawrence basically got the

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Speaker 1: biggest deal in Cowboys franchise history, with one hundred and

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Speaker 1: five million dollars twenty one million per year for five

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Speaker 1: years and sixty five million dollars guaranteed. Now, you guys

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Speaker 1: were at the press conference, heard everything that was set there.

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Speaker 1: How did it go from things getting heated too quickly

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Speaker 1: getting that deal made the biggest deal in franchise history. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think obvious there was a phone call a story

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Speaker 1: more about it. But sometimes these you know, the negotiations

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Speaker 1: back and forth that you needed, you know, make it

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Speaker 1: a human beings are involved here. It's not just a

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Speaker 1: football player and the owner and the agent and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. It's like, let's get this thing down to

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Speaker 1: let's talk this thing out. And I believe that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what happened when they kind of gotten the room

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Speaker 1: and said how do we make this work? Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: Steven Jones said yesterday that it's not rare to do that,

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Speaker 1: but it sure's hell seems like it is, because like

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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like a novel concept to me. And

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Speaker 1: so often during these during these types of standoffs, like

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Speaker 1: like you know, they're not communicating, they haven't talked to

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Speaker 1: each other in months. It seems like that would be

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Speaker 1: a good idea and that sounds like what happened here,

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Speaker 1: And you know it came out over the weekend. David

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Speaker 1: Canter was very open about it. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: laid out what they want. They were honest about it,

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Speaker 1: they were respectful. You know, DeMarcus said he wanted to

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Speaker 1: same time, I love the line from yesterday where you know,

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus was kind of like, your problems aren't my problems, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know, you got to figure out the cap that's

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Speaker 1: really that's not my job, that's your job. And it's true,

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely true. We say that all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's on the Cowboys to make all those things work.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't affect a Marcus's bottom line at all. And

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Speaker 1: you know they were able to get on a conference

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Speaker 1: as human beings, And it sounds like that made a

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Speaker 1: from there at an impass to not only have they

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Speaker 1: Like everybody here got what they wanted. DeMarcus is making

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Speaker 1: more than he would have made under the tag. He's

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Speaker 1: have him at a number that makes sense, and more

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Speaker 1: in three years, which I think is everything. Why was

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Speaker 1: this not done the first place? Then that's my point. See,

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Speaker 1: all that should have been put. He's right though, it's

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Speaker 1: he could say it's not his problem, but it is

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Speaker 1: his problem. It's not it's no, no, it's not his problem,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it, it becomes his problem exactly exactly

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Speaker 1: I mean, why is this going to now? Because they

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Speaker 1: why Stephen Jones kind of hinted at that yesterday. He's like,

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Speaker 1: many times, it feels like it feels like whenever these

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Speaker 1: And the team says, we get that, and here's what

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Speaker 1: And it could have been really easy for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Camp did was pretty good. Because if you stall on

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Speaker 1: probably what their point wasn't it. If that's the case,

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Speaker 1: work out. But this whole thing worked out in Demarcus's favorite.

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Speaker 1: To their camp, they'll tell you that that wasn't their goal. No, Well,

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Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, that I was the leverage. I was

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Speaker 1: you're forced them to do something. Well, I was, well,

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Speaker 1: That when then Jerry Jones came out and said wait

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the here's time about the first year

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Speaker 1: you know what Earl Thomas wound up getting from Baltimore? Right,

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas Earl Thomas dream died on Draft night last year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: know some people may not think this is a big

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Speaker 1: all right. With the Marcus Lawrence deal being done, I

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Speaker 1: think that sets another bar or these people to follow,

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Speaker 1: which is Dak's contract that's coming up, so Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 1: People are wondering whose contract should the Cowboys do next,

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Speaker 1: Who's first on the line as far as priority and

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Speaker 1: who would be Like what kind of money are we

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Speaker 1: talking about here as far as a deal, a multi million,

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Speaker 1: multi year deal. You know, I actually have a different opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think zeke m but but I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: what Steven said. I mean, Steven said that it's Cooper

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Speaker 1: and Daku. Of those two, I would say Cooper because

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Speaker 1: he's your draft pick, he's your first round pick. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy that you that you that you brought in

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Speaker 1: here for because he was twenty four years old and

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Speaker 1: so he did a nice job in his first year,

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Speaker 1: and I would you know, he's going to be here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if Dak struggles this year and they

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Speaker 1: find out he's not the quarterback, Cooper is still going

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Speaker 1: to be the number one receiver. If if Cooper has

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Speaker 1: that off year, they're gonna get a new receiver's coach

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Speaker 1: and figure out how to fix Cooper. So I think

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Speaker 1: Coop for you know, the priority of those two. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I just like it all stems from the quarterback though,

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Speaker 1: Like the quarterback is the domino that sets everything else.

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Speaker 1: It's the biggest contract, it's the most important player, and

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Speaker 1: that I just wonder if maybe that spurs you to

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Speaker 1: get something done, Like, you know, financially, doing Cooper would

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Speaker 1: be the smartest because it lowers your cap and it

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Speaker 1: could make it easier for you to sign other deals

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Speaker 1: because he's counting fourteen million against your cap. If you

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Speaker 1: sign him for five years right now, you can lower it,

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Speaker 1: can you can lower it substantially, which might make it easier.

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Speaker 1: Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Dak and

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Speaker 1: Cooper are signed by the time the season rolls around,

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Speaker 1: just because you talk about the training camp, we show

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Speaker 1: up on the plane. Sure, one of those Dak announcements there,

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Speaker 1: But I just I just, yeah, there's really they're both

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Speaker 1: kind of in similar situations, because you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody would argue like Amari Cooper is great, but

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Speaker 1: I don't He's not the best receiver in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's not Julio ab or Odell. Right now, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: the names you just mentioned. Beckham at eighteen a million

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Speaker 1: a year, right, you mentioned Julio Jones at fourteen two.

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Speaker 1: He's working toward twenty million a year soon. Okay, there,

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Speaker 1: so that would make him the highest paid guy. Where

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Speaker 1: where does he fall in all this thing? You see?

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Speaker 1: I looked at that Beckham Brown, Mike Evans fifteen. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where the Hopkins fifteen you're looking. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of when I was looking at Jarvis Landry money right there.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking Brandon Cooks. I think the floor. I think

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Speaker 1: the floor is probably seventeen. That's my guests. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a cap expert. But well,

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Speaker 1: we did a good did a good job on that

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Speaker 1: other one. You kind of had this so that he

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Speaker 1: had Lawrence pegged at one spot, and yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: figure it out. I also said that if it were

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Speaker 1: up to me, I'd pay him mac money just to

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Speaker 1: get it over with. So, yeah, you just wanted to

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Speaker 1: get over with it. I just wanted to not have

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Speaker 1: to talk about it anymore. I just for a number

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Speaker 1: one is messing up that whole thing. Oh, there's players

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Speaker 1: will mess up some contracts. Now, well, he did have

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards season, right, Look at the ages of

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Speaker 1: these cats. Beckham's twenty seven, Antonio Brown's thirty one, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's Mike Evans twenty six, DeAndre Hopkins is twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: and Cooper's twenty four. Yeah, exactly, there's not a twenty

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Speaker 1: four year old in the top ten of this thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you're getting this deal done

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Speaker 1: for less than seventeen million a year and maybe more

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Speaker 1: than that. Which that was the point I was going

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Speaker 1: to make is the word on the street is that

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones is working toward a twenty million dollars a

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Speaker 1: year contract at the same time Russell Wilson is trying

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Speaker 1: to get something done. He said a deadline of Monday,

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Speaker 1: which if that's not gonna happen, no, it's not gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: So gonna let that happen right now. But point being,

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Speaker 1: there are other quarterbacks working toward massive deals too, So

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Speaker 1: do you want to try to get these Deck and

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Speaker 1: Amari deals done before somebody else sets the market or

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Speaker 1: do you want to wait and see what the market

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Speaker 1: looks like? Did it really matter? Did it really matter

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Speaker 1: on this last contract where the market was. I think

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Speaker 1: teams were looking at just like the franchise tag mannered

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Speaker 1: and this one didn't it. Yeah, and people will be

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Speaker 1: looking at Russell because he's probably the best quarterback of

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Speaker 1: that group, But just like the defensive ends, we're looking

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Speaker 1: at d Law. You know, I don't think Dak. I

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Speaker 1: think I think the market will trickle down for him.

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Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think you can compare what

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Speaker 1: Dak and Russell Wilson have done. Yeah, well you can't.

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Speaker 1: But again, I mean that's that's the free agent market

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Speaker 1: for you though. I mean, was Kirk Cousins really worth

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Speaker 1: what he got paid when he hit free Agency's got

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Speaker 1: money and Cousins has the money and Derek Carr got

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Speaker 1: the money. Quarterback to me is the most shaky paid

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Speaker 1: position in the league. May like shaky guys up there

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Speaker 1: getting I mean you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's some guys that are like thinking, he gets

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Speaker 1: what you know, the Kirk Cousins thing is the whole

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Speaker 1: that that to me is a very shaky situation. And

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Speaker 1: that's my point is because you can put down their

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Speaker 1: resumes on paper and be like, well, Russell Wilson's clearly

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Speaker 1: better than Dad. Yeah, but then you say he's twenty five.

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Speaker 1: He's got more wins over the last three years than

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Speaker 1: anybody not named. He's won two division titles. He's got

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Speaker 1: a playoff win in three series or three seasons. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I misspoken. He's rushed for eighteen touchdowns on top of

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Speaker 1: everything he's done as a passer, and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're like, well, yeah, Dak probably could command thirty

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Speaker 1: one million on the open market if he got there.

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Speaker 1: You know what's what's weird is I think it's cap charge.

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Speaker 1: I looked at it in different ways, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's his cap value this year. Is he ranked sixty

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Speaker 1: ninth in the league in among quarterbacks. Oh, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And that's seventy freaking Mike White Wow? Wow? Is that

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Speaker 1: Prescott ranks sixty ninth in cap charges for quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: seventy is Michael is that after you account for the

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Speaker 1: NFL increase like he's making substantially more of this? Can

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Speaker 1: I jump into this conversation? I said the word shaky,

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Speaker 1: and and then I thought, Man, maybe I'm not right

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Speaker 1: about that. Rogers is your top we all agree, what

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Speaker 1: what category are we on? We're quarterbacks, but bass salary

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Speaker 1: or what's let's go. Let's go with average per year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: average per year. Rogers is at thirty three point five

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Speaker 1: million a year. Okay, Now this is where it gets fun.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is at at thirty million dollars, okay, Kurt

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Speaker 1: Cousins is at twenty eight million dollars, Jimmy Garoppolo is

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Speaker 1: at twenty seven five, Matt Stafford is at twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr is at twenty five million, and Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: is at twenty five million, with Andrew Luck at twenty

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Speaker 1: four to five. So three, four, five and six on

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Speaker 1: that list of never won a playoff game. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: where that's where my word shaky comes in. And the

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Speaker 1: in the best of all time, where's he? Yeah, he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's down. He's down to the fourteen million. He ruins

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Speaker 1: the whole thing because he doesn't care about making a

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Speaker 1: market vw Alex Smith's in there, Joe Flacco's in there,

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Speaker 1: Nick Boles is in there. Russell Wilsons at twenty one nine. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's take it. Let's take it forward a step because

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Speaker 1: in the next two years, Okay, we already said Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson needs a new deal. Jared Goff and Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: have club options on their contract, but they need new

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Speaker 1: deals in the next two years. Cousins' is uh contract

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota will be over in twenty twenty one. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Cam Newton, which his contracts over in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one as well. He's a twenty he's a twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollar player. If you can find a way to

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Speaker 1: pay Dak this summer, he you know, if even let's

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Speaker 1: just say you made him the highest paid quarterback, which

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that would happen, but even

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Speaker 1: if you did, he would be fifth on that list

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Speaker 1: in a year and a half. Okay, let me ask you,

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Speaker 1: this stuff works, you feel better, Okay, you probably will

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Speaker 1: feel better about Dak being better than Rogers, of course, No,

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Speaker 1: how about Matt Ryan. Yeah, okay, we're not gonna ste

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Speaker 1: not yet. Cousins, Yes, is okay? Is that where it

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Speaker 1: stops for us? At twenty eight million dollars? That's I mean, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got his cousins better than him. Garoppolo think I'm

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Speaker 1: taking based on we're not being homers here, are we?

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Speaker 1: I'm maybe we are, But like based on what I've

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Speaker 1: seen on the field and what I see around him

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Speaker 1: every day out you know, Matt Stafford. Yeah, every time

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Speaker 1: he's played Matt Stafford, I think he's beating him. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's terrifying because Derek Carr Matt Stafford is unquestionably

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Speaker 1: more talented than Dak. But would you trade it too

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Speaker 1: right now? I don't think I would, especially, I mean no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would. This is just so tough

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Speaker 1: to figure out because like that I've been listening. But

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Speaker 1: everything that Da've mentioned as far as accomplishments he's being

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Speaker 1: able to do during his time being here. When you

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Speaker 1: look at that on paper and you look at his

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Speaker 1: leadership around the team and all of that, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have to take that into consideration. But then there's the

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Speaker 1: other part of you that watches him during game days

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Speaker 1: and you get mad and you're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: why can't the freaking pass and throw the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field and this and that, and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we need a better quarterback. So it's like, how do

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Speaker 1: you draw the line? Stop making sense? Dinnesota, Detroit, Oakland,

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Speaker 1: whoever else they get pissed off at their quarterback to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, okay, yes, and they all there's not

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Speaker 1: a paid Yeah, the Packers, the Saints, they never get

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Speaker 1: mad at their quarterback. But of those top six guys,

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Speaker 1: and this includes the Falcons, Matt yeah, Matt Ryan, the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: the Packers, of those top six guys, did any of

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Speaker 1: them make the playoffs? And that's the stat people love

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Speaker 1: to site, is that, like, I think the six most

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Speaker 1: highest paid quarterbacks didn't make it last year. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's there's there's no then he's sitting right there at

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Speaker 1: two or three. Then I mean, yeah, okay making it

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Speaker 1: to the Okay, yes, it does start with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's the leader of the offense basically, but it takes

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Speaker 1: a lot more than just a quarterback. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you to the playoff, it doesn't necessarily mean your quarterback

637
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Speaker 1: is the one that got you. But if your Dak's agent.

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Speaker 1: How can you look at that list and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's not You know, ag is just outlining like

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Speaker 1: the fan debate for us perfectly. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it takes more than a quarterback. You can't

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Speaker 1: afford to think those kind of resources into a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: especially a guy that so many people aren't sold one

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Speaker 1: what he did without Zeek? Now that's this is gonna

645
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Speaker 1: be the fun debate because would you rather pay Zeke

646
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Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper and take a chance on getting another quarterback?

647
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Speaker 1: I guarantee though, and you know this because you've been

648
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Speaker 1: in those rooms, Jerry won't do it. Though you can't

649
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Speaker 1: say all the time, but you just said you used

650
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Speaker 1: to drop the rooting. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You just said,

651
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Speaker 1: could he do all that without Zeek? Right? Right? No? Could?

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Speaker 1: I'm right on my argument, but I'm saying you always

653
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Speaker 1: take Zeek out of the questions could he do all that?

654
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Speaker 1: Could do all that? Oh No, that's the gentleman across

655
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Speaker 1: from me there always thinks that could he do all

656
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Speaker 1: that without Amari Cooper? Because Zeke was there for the

657
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Speaker 1: first eight weeks in the season last year and they

658
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Speaker 1: weren't good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, though he obviously

659
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Speaker 1: needs good players around him, like Mary Cooper might be important.

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Speaker 1: Everybody million dollars, you know, you're you know you're signing him.

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Speaker 1: It just sucks because they're gonna get them all done,

662
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna have absolutely nobody like Jesse Holly's gonna

663
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Speaker 1: be like the fifth receiver because they're they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have nobody else. So that's the thing. It's like,

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Speaker 1: that sounds sounds like somebody that does not trust their

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Speaker 1: success in the draft. Well, which they've they've had success

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Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, well that if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay all these guys, that's what you have to hit

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Speaker 1: on your draft picks with everything else you have to

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Speaker 1: But do had they okay, but had they hit, what

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Speaker 1: would you say? Between three and seven? Are they are? They?

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Speaker 1: Are they great? They do have Dak Prescott, there's no

673
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. Great. Malie Collins has been good. It's

674
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Speaker 1: worth I mean it's worth as it's worth a deep dive.

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it recently, but like they have

676
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Speaker 1: found plenty of good players between rounds four and seven,

677
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Speaker 1: I mean Anthony Hitchins, Damian Wilson, Dak Prescott, Cole Beasley

678
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Speaker 1: was undrafted. Um MALIEK Collins was the third round pick.

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Speaker 1: Found the human log on the scrap heap. Your favorite

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Speaker 1: player Anthony Brown six Xavier Woods. I mean you need

681
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Speaker 1: to look at his contract. Why is he making two

682
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: million dollars a year? Probably because he's started so many

683
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: games the same thing. Yeah he's getting I don't have

684
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Speaker 1: a good answer for you, but I just think in

685
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Speaker 1: terms of like, I just think the quarterback sets the

686
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Speaker 1: tone for everything else. That's just how I one of

687
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Speaker 1: these guys. I don't disagree, but you know, my my

688
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: problem comes when you start looking at the whole offense

689
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Speaker 1: and how he needs too many players to be good

690
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Speaker 1: around him. You know, there's the line, there's the whole

691
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Speaker 1: all line. One goes whatever, all here we go. We struggle.

692
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Speaker 1: If the running back isn't making plays, finding the hole,

693
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Speaker 1: getting through, Zeke's not health at all. Here is a problem.

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Speaker 1: If the receiver is not catching the ball, Oh, here's

695
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: a problem. How many quarterbacks don't need that? Because that

696
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: rogers guys, that's why he makes thirty three million a year.

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Speaker 1: How many games did they win last year. Not enough,

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Speaker 1: not enough, not enough, got to coach fire. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: they came out the other day with reasons why Yeah sure,

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Speaker 1: how about how about the guy that was here for

701
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Speaker 1: so long? Like all I ever hear about Tony is

702
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Speaker 1: that he didn't have enough around him and he kept

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Speaker 1: him competitive because he was damn good. But they didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they didn't win enough. They were too That's the point

705
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: that's important. That you needed better players, didn't he Okay, yeah,

706
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: needed an offensive line, He needed a better running back.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get him to mark better running back, right.

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Speaker 1: They eventually got him one when he was thirty two. Yeah,

709
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: way too late to the sway of natural league. They

710
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Speaker 1: got him Tyrant Smith, Zach Martin and Travis Frederick and

711
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: he was in the thirties. Oh more comfortable paying a

712
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Speaker 1: guy like that that can hold his own without the

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Speaker 1: need of everybody else being great around. Tony Romo wasn't

714
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Speaker 1: that quarterback until he was years older than dak Is.

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's not get it twisted. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at all the aspects of it. We

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Speaker 1: are bait. Like what we're arguing though, like, what's what's

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Speaker 1: the what is your point though, Aaron Amber wants Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: That's what she said, but like she wants to say no,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, what she were talking when we start talking

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Speaker 1: about money and then and the amount of money that

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Speaker 1: you're wanting to pay or having to pay a quarterback,

723
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Speaker 1: like where's the line being drawn there? When you have

724
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Speaker 1: to look at other players because you okay Byron Jones,

725
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: another guy that's coming up, do you want to keep him?

726
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: And and everybody's he's the guy that's kind of getting

727
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: kicked to the curb right now. And Zeke started, what

728
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Speaker 1: the biggest one for me? It's got to be Cooper.

729
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Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna talk about this later. I

730
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Speaker 1: might go with Zeke, but Cooper is the one. Well, Zeke,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important too. But you can sign a

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Speaker 1: Marie Cooper. I think you get a Marie Cooper at

733
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Speaker 1: an eighteen to nineteen a year and maybe an eight

734
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Speaker 1: or nine eight or not feel better about eight or

735
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: nine year deal, just like you did with Tyrn Smith.

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Speaker 1: He's young, he's gonna be here for a while, and

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Speaker 1: he you can stretch his contract. You're gonna have to

738
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Speaker 1: do that with with one of these guys. Well, which

739
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Speaker 1: one would you do it? Whose contract are you? Whose

740
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: contract are gonna feel the least best about? I guess

741
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, Like when you

742
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Speaker 1: when when you get to the point you're saying, Okay,

743
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay these guys, like you say, okay, you

744
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: want to pay Cooper first, because you're gonna feel like

745
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: that contract is gonna that's gonna contract is gonna hold

746
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Speaker 1: value for you throughout that or is it Dak Prescott

747
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Speaker 1: or is the ezekiel A contract going to be better

748
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Speaker 1: for you long term? Why can't you do a Zeke

749
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Speaker 1: contract similar to what you did d Law. I don't

750
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Speaker 1: mean it has to be a twenty one million, but

751
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying that type of deal where it's really a

752
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Speaker 1: three year deal, but it's it looks like a five

753
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Speaker 1: year deal. And yeah, you know that's kind of what

754
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: you see because you think whose contract is going to

755
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Speaker 1: hold better value? If that, guess that's what I should,

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Speaker 1: I think I would be the least scared. I think

757
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Speaker 1: I would be thought straight today. Sorry about that. I

758
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: think it's what you're trying to say. I think the

759
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Speaker 1: answer for me was good. I agree it would be

760
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Speaker 1: Cooper if but not. I don't want to sign anybody

761
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: to an eight year deal, please, that's just begging. What

762
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: did Tyrn get a seven year He got an eight

763
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: year extension, And I mean that hey. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it's a position that's known for longevity. He is a

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Speaker 1: special class of athlete in my opinion. And on top

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Speaker 1: a lot of time left on that deal, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see how it holds up. I mean, see to me,

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Speaker 1: but he's not done until twenty twenty three. I think

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Speaker 1: Today back to the break, all right, we have been

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Speaker 1: discussing Dak's future contract, the Zekiel Elia's future contract. But

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Speaker 1: here's another thought, why or why not would it be

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Speaker 1: a good idea or not a good idea to franchise

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Speaker 1: Dike Prescott tested out and see how he does on

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Speaker 1: that figure is twenty five twenty five and a half

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Speaker 1: right now, which means if they do it next year,

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Speaker 1: it'll go point seven twenty six twenty seven. For night

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Speaker 1: that we kind of put him right where all those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are that we don't like. Am I right about that?

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Speaker 1: Here's here's here's why. And you're right they did it

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Speaker 1: with Tank. I don't. It doesn't. It doesn't. The defensive

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Speaker 1: I think I just think that's that's a bad idea

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Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. One, we talked about it

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Speaker 1: off the air. I'd rather start the clock ticking, like

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Speaker 1: if you signed him in June again. And you know

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Speaker 1: we say this all the time, these NFL deals, they're

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Speaker 1: really like three year deals, or if it's a six

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Speaker 1: year deal, it's a four year deal. Like, it's all

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Speaker 1: about the guarantees and how quickly you can get away

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Speaker 1: from the decision. If you sign him now, you're getting

845
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: it's one. You're getting closer. Yeah, you're getting closer that anyway,

846
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 1: So your dad's going to start for you, regardless whether

847
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: it's on two million dollars salary as a rookie contract

848
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: right now or whether it's on a new deal. He's

849
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: your starter. So you can count this year toward that

850
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: right now. If you sign him now, and if if

851
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: you decide you're not happy with it, you're all the

852
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: closer to getting away from it. Whereas if you franchise

853
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: him next year, you're paying twenty eight million. You've got

854
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: to pay him that money, and then if he keeps

855
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: bawling and keeps doing it, then all of a sudden,

856
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: the price is even higher than it already was, and

857
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: you're another year away from being able to get out

858
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: from under that deal. He's another year older. And then

859
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: there's the psychological aspect of it, where if there's one

860
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: guy in the entire locker room who I don't want

861
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: to be unhappy or not bought in, it's the quarterback.

862
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: I do not want Dak Prescott's Yeah, we say it like,

863
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's better than he gets credit

864
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: for from a from a mechanic standpoint and accuracy, he's

865
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: better than he gets credit for. But let's not kid

866
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: ourselves like his best feature is leadership and CHARISMI getting

867
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: people together. I don't want there to be any doubt

868
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: that he's bought in or all in on the side

869
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: of the franchise. I don't want him even maybe sort

870
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: of questioning whether or not he's got a future here,

871
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: because I think people that are asking that are probably

872
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: people that still have those doubts as well. Sure, and

873
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: that's what a franchise tag is because if you didn't

874
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: think that that, you know, he wasn't that guy that

875
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: you could sign five or six years, you probably wouldn't

876
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: give it to him. That's why they give it to

877
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: d law It's like, well, well, he's had one good year,

878
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: can he do it again? Yeah? But is it a

879
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: way you give him twenty eight million dollars for the

880
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: franchise tag and say he plays well on it. Isn't

881
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: that the proof again, because you're you're you're giving him

882
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: a lot of money and you're making him, making him

883
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: play for it. If he if he stinks, then you

884
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: got your answer. What he can't handle the pressure of

885
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: being a twenty eight million dollar ar quarterback? Am I Am?

886
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: I wrong about it? You're not wrong. It's just the

887
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: question is has he already proven it? In three years?

888
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Has he proven it? Does? And that's that's the debate.

889
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: That's the debate that we think he's better than half

890
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: those stiffs at up top of the board. Right. That's

891
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: why I agree with with what Dave is saying. I

892
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: do I think you start it now because I don't

893
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: think he's I mean, yeah, you can, you can, you

894
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: can have Is he gonna make two million? He doesn't

895
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: need to be making two million? This is this is

896
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: similar to what Emmett Smith back in ninety three. I mean,

897
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: what else does he need to do? He doesn't need

898
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: to be making two million a year. He needs a

899
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: new deal. He should get a new deal this year. Well,

900
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, on top of everything else, yeah, you can

901
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: bring fairness into it. I mean, he's even if you

902
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: think he sucks, you cannot deny that he's drastically outperformed

903
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: his contract. He is the most underpaid player in sports

904
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: probably period and one of the most scrutinized players here exactly.

905
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: But any okay, let's again, let's go through with your

906
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: thought experiment. If you do all that, you make him

907
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: play on the tag, he plays out this contract, you

908
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: tag him, so then the quickest you can be crumbles. Okay,

909
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: he's terrible. He sucks next year on the tag, he

910
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: sucks in two years on the tag. So the quickest

911
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: you can get away from Dak Prescott is twenty twenty one. Right,

912
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: if you sign him in June. By twenty twenty one,

913
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: you're already close to being done with that. Anyway, Well,

914
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean you got you got a year or two

915
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: before you can get away from it. You need to

916
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback. Anyway, I'd rather just start the clock.

917
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: And then, on top of that what I just said,

918
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: if you sign him, if you sign him at training camp,

919
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: he will be a bargain in two years, like the

920
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: market will push and that's like this contract will look

921
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: good in comparison in no time, Like that's how these

922
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: things work. So I I mean, you know, Romo, Romo

923
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: got what like twenty million a year, and that was insane.

924
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: That was only five years five six years ago, and

925
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: now the salaries are astronomically higher than that. Rogers has

926
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: a full eighty million dollars on top of his deal

927
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: to what Romo got. What's Breeze doing why twenty five million?

928
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: He's cheese that Freeze and Brady are outliers. They're closer

929
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: to the to the end of their career. They've made

930
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: all the money they need to make. Brady is especially

931
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: annoying because his wife, Gizelle brings she makes more than

932
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: he does, and so they can afford to do that.

933
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: You cannot expect a single twenty five year old who

934
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: was drafted in the fourth round to be willing to

935
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: play by the same rules by a Hall of Famer

936
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: who's on his eighth contracts rules. I just mean, it's

937
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: mess up the whole Oh, Breeze and Brady ruined this

938
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: whole thing because they're arguably the best two quarterbacks in

939
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the league and they're playing for pennies and Mark, can

940
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I ask one question, real quick. Yeah, okay, we're let's slot,

941
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: let's slop this runner. Then oh what real quick? Um,

942
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to be up soon too. I mean

943
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: like after this season they can start negotiating with him,

944
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: and what do you think that's going to fetch? Yeah?

945
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: What do you like? So? But who would you rather have?

946
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: I would rather have Pat Mahomes. But that's not the point.

947
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: The point is what is your point? The Chiefs are

948
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: going to sign him to a two hundred million dollars deal,

949
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: that's not in your ballpark. Then if you really think

950
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: that Mahomes is better, you're not going to sign your

951
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: guy to a two hundred million But that's what if

952
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just say that Dak gets him

953
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs this year, maybe they even get

954
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: to the NFC title game. Let's be optimistic, okay, And

955
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: then Mahomes breaks the bank with a two hundred million

956
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: dollar deal and Dak, who is not as good as

957
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes but has this fantastic resume through four years, is

958
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: like where my money at? Yeah, let's again, let's start

959
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: the clock on this thing and avoid these types of conversations.

960
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: It's not that's not wrong. Todd Gurley making fourteen three,

961
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Leveon Bell making thirteen one, David Johnson making thirteen million.

962
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: This is just a year. This is a year where

963
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: he's You look at Zeke, he's okay better than Bell. Yes,

964
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: he's he's a fifteen To me, he's a fifteen million.

965
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: If that's it. Garcia, Yeah, I'm four for sixty. Yikes, right,

966
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you right now. He is if

967
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: you look at where he's he is, he is behind

968
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. Lamar Miller makes six point five, he makes

969
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: six point two. You got werenad ahead of him. Jerk McKinnon, Barkley, McCoy, Freeman,

970
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: David Johnson, Leban Bill, Todd, Gurley, McKinnon. What is that deal?

971
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: It's from the forty nine ers. That's seven and a

972
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: half a year they had. They have ungodly amounts of

973
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: cast space hunting money. Yeah, that only get that they

974
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: had that quarterback that we really didn't like that I

975
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: made this. I didn't say I didn't like Jimmy Garoppolo.

976
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: I just liked that kind of you did you kind

977
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: of gave you did that sharp pay face. The guys

978
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: played like nine games. Yeah, they gave him a lot

979
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: of money for nine games. Where's he was? He falls?

980
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: He is, he's better than David Johnson, right, you think

981
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: he's better. You think he's number one? Yeah, number one

982
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: on the list. I made this comment like a month ago.

983
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: It really him. I'm good with that. Pay him. I'm

984
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: paying him right now. Today started up. I don't care

985
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: what happened to girl. Watch what's about to happen over here?

986
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: I care what happened early? Yeah, watch what's about to happen?

987
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: What I mean, we don't know, We don't know for sure,

988
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: but like what I mean? What if? What if Gurley

989
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: can't finish this contract or even come close by? Not?

990
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: But what was Why was Gurley the eleventh pick overall? Anyways?

991
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: He did have injury problems and Zeke has had none.

992
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: He's never missed a game due to injury. Knocking it no,

993
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: I know, no honest, I mean, don't bring the table.

994
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: It gives me pause. Just again. And if if you're

995
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna pay your quarterback the mouth damn the amount of

996
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: money that we are talking about, that's how you offset that,

997
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: is you draft running backs at a discount to offset

998
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: the cost. Did you pay offensive lineman so you didn't

999
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: have to pay running back. I mean you would think

1000
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: and let's say, oh, what was that little low let's

1001
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: be head tilt there, What was that all about? They

1002
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: drafted this guy. They drafted this guy to get Tony

1003
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: Romo over the hump, no question, that's what they did.

1004
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: And we were everybody, Now, WHOA, that's not a bad

1005
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: That was not a bad pick, right, No, And I'm

1006
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: not criticizing the pick. I was a percent on board

1007
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: with Zeke. I think the world of Zeke, and honestly, Oh, Ramsey,

1008
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: go back and listen to it. I think I do.

1009
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: I've listened to eighteen hours. Can listen to it. I

1010
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: drove the Zeke train for three months. I don't want

1011
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to hear it. I was there. Yeah, Taylor was too.

1012
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: That's that's my point. Everyone that works here was on

1013
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: board with it, and I still am, like, I think

1014
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: the world of Zeke. He's he's a great player. Can

1015
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: tell me right now. I could draft a running back,

1016
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: right you could, but I would honestly a second round

1017
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: one in earlier if I could, If if I just

1018
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: could have it the way I wanted and negotiations weren't

1019
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: part of it, I would sign into a four year extension.

1020
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: Right now, you have him under control for six more

1021
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: years he comes out of the deal. I think he's

1022
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: twenty four right now. He wouldn't you know, he wouldn't

1023
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: even be thirty when the deal was over. I at

1024
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: least twenty five Bells twenty seven, David Johnson's twenty eight,

1025
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: ze twenty seven. Zeke's age and his durability make me

1026
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: okay with doing that type of deal. He took a beating,

1027
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: She's right, though, Yeah, he took a beating. Thirteen million

1028
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Taking a beating like that, it's it's scary.

1029
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: And that's if there's a if. Just I slot him

1030
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: like last. And I hate to say that because I

1031
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: think he's a great, great player, but behind him But wait, wait,

1032
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: listening to you guys talk, you sound like you're more

1033
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: on board of him being the first guy next to

1034
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: get signed. But that's I mean, yeah, you thought you

1035
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: slip Nick, who was gonna No, No, Zeke's gonna be him.

1036
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: In my pick, we're gonna do this later today. A

1037
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: gut feeling on which guy should be done first. But

1038
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: but I think that the the weird one here is

1039
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: is a Mari, because I think A Mari's a guy

1040
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: that you could give a longer deal to. It would work,

1041
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: and it would work. And then that's gonna stretch it

1042
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: out and he's not gonna he's not gonna count as much.

1043
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll look like you will if you stretch

1044
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: it out seven or eight years. How many times is

1045
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: the cap gonna go up in that time? A lot? Twice? Three? Yeah,

1046
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: you can sound more sure about signing this runner than

1047
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: anything I want to. I think start that clock right

1048
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: now with Zeke. The Runner is the most proven commodity.

1049
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: It's also the least value we're proven than the court.

1050
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: Then they then cooper, right, get me to twenty eight

1051
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: years old for him? How old is he twenty four?

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00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty four. Can you just look it up?

1053
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: Twenty four? How about that? Okay, yeah, twenty get me

1054
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: through when you know his season when he's twenty eight,

1055
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: and then after that we'll see. Also, you know, I

1056
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: feel like another you know people brought this up yesterday,

1057
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: is like why is why is he getting pushed to

1058
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: the back burner. Why isn't anybody talking about Zeke? Well,

1059
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: he's got two years left. They have a fifth year

1060
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: option on him. They will exercise it barring something insane.

1061
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: And then the reason this came up in the first size, well,

1062
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: the reason this came he's the one guy that would

1063
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: sit on you. Word surfaced in January that his camp

1064
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: was wanting a new MP if if he just if

1065
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: that's something he decides to do, we'll revisit it then.

1066
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard anything about that since the playoffs.

1067
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: I haven't. It hasn't been suggested. I've seen him here

1068
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: at the facility. He was at the MAVs game with

1069
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: all of his teammates last night. He's not acting like

1070
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: a guy who's planning on sitting out. If that changes,

1071
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: then we can revisit that conversation. But until then, I'm

1072
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: just like, you're making good money. You were a top

1073
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: five pick. Like I'm willing to let that ride for

1074
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: the time being. That's how I feel. Pay him now,

1075
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: get it done. No, he's the one guy I would

1076
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: feel absolutely comfortable. I'm like, just kind of how Tank

1077
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: said it last night, that's not my business. Get me

1078
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: my money, and you figure out the rest. Because obviously,

1079
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: like Stephen Jones, he mentioned the whole like, yeah, we

1080
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: have several guys that we need to take care of,

1081
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: and that's something that we bring up to the players,

1082
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, that's not the

1083
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: player's business or job is like the quarterback or the runner.

1084
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. Zeke is the one that, to

1085
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: me literally carried the whole offense in these three years.

1086
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: He's been the one for me doing basically everything. And

1087
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: they went three and five without Cooper last year while

1088
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: he was on the field. Okay, there are different there

1089
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: are other things that Okay, get him a good backup

1090
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: so he can rest a little bit. You look at

1091
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: other get him a good backup, poor guy, get him

1092
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: beat up. I mean yes, the money the guy that

1093
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: you feel the most comfortable paying is the guy that

1094
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: gets the hell beat out of him every time he's

1095
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: on the field. That's why you can't do it now.

1096
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: And look, hey, I like that up with it three years.

1097
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: So if you get him a good backup, a decent backup,

1098
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be great. Just get him someone

1099
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: decent and he can rest a little bit. Rod Smith,

1100
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: was he decent? No? Okay, now we need to do

1101
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: better than Rod Smith. Right, Well, something happened to him

1102
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: last year. I don't know why he went down. He'll

1103
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean I had high holds for him. Get me

1104
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: a running back? Yeah, five eleven. You know we're gonna

1105
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: go get Justice Hill. Don't worry. But I mean, I'm

1106
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: not the draft X for here. You guys to study

1107
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: this way more than I do. But to me, and

1108
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: based on the time that I've been here and what

1109
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: I've been watching, I don't feel that getting a running

1110
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: back that caliber is as easy as you make it sound. No,

1111
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: I understand, but Amber is asking me Nick to pay

1112
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: him pay the runner, and I have to use draft

1113
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: capital to go get a backup. Are Is that right?

1114
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think is that right? She's asking me

1115
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: to use she's asking me to pay him. But I

1116
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: also got to go use a premium pick because I

1117
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: got to go find a guy better than the guy premium.

1118
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: Where's premium I'm gonna use. I'm gonna use a third

1119
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 1: round pick. I'm gonna use ninety on a back. If

1120
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: you bought a home, you have to buy insurance to

1121
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: protect your home. Yeah, and so your fourth round pick

1122
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: is your your third or fourth round pick is your

1123
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: insurance to protect the home, which is zeke. That's what

1124
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: you want, but you got to make sure you protect

1125
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: it and prolong it. They right, can get insured if

1126
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a home in the first place. They're

1127
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: right over there. They're right about what they're saying right now.

1128
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: But I keep thinking about what ag just said, which

1129
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: is that it's harder than we think to find good

1130
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: running backs. And I don't think that's true. I think

1131
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy at the end of the day, in

1132
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: all honesty, like and that expand on that. Look, I mean,

1133
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: I can make your case. Well, Murray had the best

1134
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: year of his career. What happened after that? McFadden had

1135
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: the best year of his career in a long time.

1136
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: What happened after that? We'll go go around the NFL

1137
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: like the I mean, Levion Bell was taken after Gavin Escobar.

1138
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: He was barely a top fifty pick. Philip Lindsay's a

1139
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: sensation in Denver. He was an undrafted free agent. Um,

1140
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: what would be the amount of years that you would

1141
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: say that these running backs have success, like their most

1142
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: success their first contract. Yeah, this, this to me very

1143
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: much is three or four years. Yeah, this is this

1144
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: is like if you are you are a guard, if

1145
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you are a generational talent. I mean Adrian Peterson was

1146
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: still balling out last year at the age of thirty

1147
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: whatever after missing a year in the league after an

1148
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: acl or an achilles whatever. It was like, it's doable,

1149
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: and Zeke is that talented. And for the second time

1150
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: on this show, I was completely on board with the pick. Yeah,

1151
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: but you're reenterating that a lot if I'm well, because

1152
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: I know how these things work. Because somebody hears me

1153
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you hate Zeke, Like, no, I

1154
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: don't hate Zeke. We're just talking this whole thing out. Yeah.

1155
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: If you remember Stephen Jones right after they drafted him

1156
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: that they basically said five years. Yeah, like five years

1157
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happened. Which I would. I would.

1158
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I would extend him if if he wanted to do

1159
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: it to a and it would be better to do

1160
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: it now while he's still young and you can get

1161
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: away from the contract when he's only twenty six or

1162
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's fine, But I'm not trying to build

1163
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: the long term future of this team around a running back. Period.

1164
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: That's the quarterback converts the other like the other car

1165
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: he run in every game he tried. Yeah, you get

1166
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: the window, the windows here? You do? This is it?

1167
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: This is the time that I don't think, and and

1168
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: and but that's again. If if he doesn't show off

1169
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: the training camp, we can reopen this conversation. But he's

1170
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: under contract for two years, so he's here for the window.

1171
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: I just think I might sit if Jared McKinney was

1172
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: was making more than me. Yeah, I mean question when

1173
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: when will you say about thirty one year old Lastaun

1174
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: McCoy making more than me? Yeah? Which you know if

1175
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: that if it comes to that, Lamar Miller making more

1176
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: than me? Right now I'm wondering, like they're enjoying their money.

1177
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, Zeke is just in a in a

1178
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: tub full of ice, recovering from all the beatings. Uh?

1179
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Are we setting are we setting ourselves up for like

1180
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: a like? I mean the offseason program starts on Monday. Yeah,

1181
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna are we setting ourselves up for? Like? Well,

1182
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: Zeke's not here. He's been out here for the I

1183
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that he'll be here. He's he's been at

1184
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: the facility. I've seen him around a breakfast. Guys who

1185
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: guys who were holding out are typically not going to

1186
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: MAVs games with their teammates in my experience, or showing

1187
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 1: up for captain's workout. Yeah, I think that got somebody

1188
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: will upset the defensive end. Yeah, it's should have done that.

1189
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, it's all right. But if that,

1190
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: if that comes to pass week we I'll revisit this conversation. Yeah.

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Until then, Until then, it's really guys. Thank you. Dropt

1192
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Speaker 1: show tomorrow four four o'clock periscope drop show. I see

1193
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people asking what now? Were

1194
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: those the priority change in the trust a m Until then, Yes,

1195
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: it has been a good time with you guys. Thank you, Brian,

1196
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: thank you Nick, David Hellman, I remember you see. This

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Speaker 1: has been the break on Dallas Cowers dot com Radio.

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