1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, and needless to say, it has been a 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: crazy season, a crazy season to say the least, and 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: now it is reaching its climax in these final few weeks. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about the latest craziness in 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: the first segment this morning, and it kind of relates 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: to a tweet that Alden Gonzalez of ESPN had a 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: few days ago and the theme of this season. Alden 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: summed it up really well, just when I think a 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: team is good, it's bad. Just when I think a 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: team is bad, it's good. This is baseball in twenty 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: twenty five. That post by Alden kind of inspired what 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I wrote today in The Athletic, a column about fifteen 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: teams and basically telling fans of each of those teams, listen, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: if you think you have it bad, it could be worse, 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: because every team seems to be going through a phase 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: or has gone through a phase in which they have 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: their fans pulling their hair out, exasperated, frustrated, infuriated with 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: the way their teams are playing. And there's the colony 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: seat right there. It's upright now, and let's start today 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: with the NL West, because there is a division that 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: we all thought was going to be this incredible powerhouse 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: and it really isn't turning out quite that way. The 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: team that is ruining baseball the Los Angeles Dodgers. On Saturday, 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: what happened to the Los Angeles Dodgers. They were no 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: hit by the last place Orioles for eight and two 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: thirds innings. They had a win probability at that point 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of ninety nine point five percent, a three to zering lead, 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and they lost the game. And this was obviously the 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: extreme example of essentially a season long pattern for the Dodgers, 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: but one that really since early July has been a 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: huge issue. They are nine games under five hundred since 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: July third, nine games under. The operating premise of this 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: team all season has seen to be we'll turn it 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: on at the right time. Well, guess what they've already 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: cost themselves a buye in the postseason. Most likely they're 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: not getting one. The Brewers and the Phillies are in 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: commanding position for that buy now. Granted anything can happen. 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: The deficit to the Phillies from the Dodgers is four 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: and a half games. It's not over but it's not 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: looking good. And there's Sarah Lang's with her classic wei 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: on what happened Saturday night. The Dodgers have a bullpen 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: that leads the major leagues in blown safe I know 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: that's not an entirely telling metric, but it's a pretty 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: good one when it comes to the Dodgers. They had 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: another one, of course Saturday. They went one in five 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: this week last week in Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Pittsburgh and 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore two last place teams. Granted, the Oriols have played 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot better in the last three months, but they're 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: still in last place. They're still not the team that 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: they thought they would be. So that's the Dodgers in 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: the NL West. And then there were the Padres. Now 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the Padres ball saluted them for winning the trade deadline, 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: and they did that. Aj Peller, their general managers, seemed 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: to fill every one of their needs. I loved what 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: he did. Most fans did as well, just because he 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: was so aggressive and did so much well since the deadline. 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: What are the Padres? Eighteen and sixteen, just two games 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: over five hundred and it took two wins over Colorado 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: at Corusfield this weekend to get to two games over 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: five hundred. Their offense is enigmatic. As I wrote today, 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: they're starting pitching is problematic. Their bullpen is down, Jason 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Adam now still one of the best bullpens in baseball, 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and they're likely going to need to overtake the Dodgers 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: in the National League West, where they trail by one game, 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: to avoid playing a road series in the wildcard round. 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: And that's important for the Padres because they draw such 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: energy from their fans at home. So that's just the 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: NLS where kind of wacky things are going on. It's 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: not just in the NLS where we have this kind 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of commotion. The AL Wildcard race two weeks ago, it 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a race at all, I believe, on this show 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: or one of the others, I proclaim that, you know what, 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: season's kind of a bummer. We already know who the 75 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: twelve playoff teams are, and at that point it appeared 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: pretty much set. Well. The Seattle Mariners have opened this 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: thing wide open again. Now let's look at the AL 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: Wildcard standings. Right here you see the Yankees in Red Sox. 79 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: They're in commanding position. Good week for the Yankees, four 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: and two against two first place teams, the Astros and 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: Blue Jays. See the Red Sox, they kind of a 82 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: difficult series in Arizona, but they're in good shape even 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: without Rome and Anthony as far as the standings are concerned. 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: And then the Mariners. The Mariners, a team that has 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: missed the postseason by one game each of the last 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: two years. Here they are ten and one after the deadline, 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: actually starting July thirty first, so ten and one from 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: that point. They then go into IS six and fifteen 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: RUT six and fifteen, and that opened this thing wide open. 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: As I said before, for those other teams in the mix, 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Let's look at those standings one more time, and I 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: want to show you exactly what I'm talking about. The Mariners. Yes, 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: they still leave the wildcard by a game and a 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: half over the Rangers, two over the Royals, two and 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: a half over the Guardians. It's a cushion. It's somewhat 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: of a commanding cushion given how much time is remaining 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: in this season, but it's not a total cushion. And yes, 98 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: they won two games in Atlanta, two routes to go 99 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: back home now and hopefully get their acts together. But 100 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: this is a race that again should not have been 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: a race. Now this week we've got Kansas City in Cleveland. 102 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: That's a big series in the wildcard picture, of course, 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: and Kansas City also has one more series against the 104 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Mariners that's obviously going to be a big series, and 105 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I believe that is next week in Kansas City. So 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: the Oils kind of have to hold serve over the 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: next six games on the road, and then I believe 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: they're on the road, don't quote me on that, but 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: then they have Seattle and that will be if they 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: are still right where they need to be, a very 111 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: telling series for them Texas. I saw them this weekend. 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: They're an intriguing team because they're without many of their 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: top players Nathan Avaldi, Cory Seger, Marcus Simmi, and Adolice Garcia. 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of guys I wouldn't call them 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: casts off, more journeyman types who are helping them win 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: right now, Cody Freeman and Michael Hellman. It's kind of 117 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: an amazing run that they're on, but good for them. 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: They've done a really good job just kind of staying 119 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: in this race after an incredibly difficult and frustrating season 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: because their offense is underperformed. So those are the two 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: races that perhaps are most intriguing right now. And then 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: we have another development in baseball. This is the development 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: we always seem to have, and that is, of course, 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: the injuries that continue to take place. Season is still going. 125 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna still have injuries, and I just mentioned Seeger 126 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: that's one of them. Emergency apendectomy on August twenty eighth. 127 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: They're expecting him back, maybe even back next week, so 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: that would be a huge boost for them. They're also 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: expecting Adolis Garcia to come back. Simeon and Valdi the 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: chances of them returning are remote, at least according to 131 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: club officials. But on Sunday we had two other significant injuries. 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Now we're waiting to hear just on the extent of them. 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Trede Turner with the Phillies suffered a right hamstring strain 134 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: running up the first base line. He's seeing a doctor today. 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Trey Turner has kind of gone under the radar this year. 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: You see Jason Stark's tweet right there. He is fourth 137 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: in the National League fourth, I'm sorry, fourth in the 138 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: major leagues in Fangraff's version of war. He's fourth, behind 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: only Aaron Judge, cal Raley and Bobby Wick Junior. He's 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: had an amazing year. The Phillies obviously need him. The 141 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: only good news here is if he indeed has a 142 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and maybe it's a couple of weeks, that's okay. 143 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: The Phillies are in commanding position in the analyt least 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: over the Mets. They're in commanding position for a buye. 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: They should be okay if he needs nearly a month 146 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: before the playoffs to get ready. So that's Trey Turner. 147 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Palencia, the Cub's closer. He has a right shoulder issue. 148 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Came out of the game yesterday with tightness in that 149 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: right shoulder. Now that's an issue for the Cubs. Obviously 150 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: he's been really good for them. They also have injury questions, 151 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: minor stuff, it seems, with Kyle Tucker and Pete crow Armstrong. 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: Clearly they need to be healthy to be the kind 153 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: of team that they want to be. And as I 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: wrote about them today, for all that they have disappointed 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: in some ways after that great first half, still have 156 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: the third best record in the National League. They've still 157 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: a really good regular season, but they need their players obviously. 158 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 1: And then Bobby with junior, Bobby with junior back spasms 159 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: missed the least two games for the Kansas City Royals. 160 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: Now we all know the meaning of Bobbywood Junior to 161 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: that franchise. He is their best player. He's one of 162 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: the best all around players in the sport. And for 163 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: them to somehow steal this Wild Cards from Seattle, They're 164 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: going to need Bobbywood Junior healthy. There's not much doubt 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: about that. I don't believe I am going too far 166 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: out on a limb there. 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But 196 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: this week, as I mentioned at the end of the 197 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: first segment, I'd like to talk about my memories of 198 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Davy Johnson, who passed away on Saturday. Davey had a long, 199 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: rich baseball life as a player, and I don't know 200 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: that a lot of fans realize this fans today. He 201 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: was really good. Four time All Star, three time goal 202 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Glove winner at second base, two time World Series champion 203 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Orioles nineteen sixty six and nineteen seventy 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and as a manager, he is best known as the 205 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: leader of the swashbuckling nineteen eighty six World Series champion 206 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: New York Mets. And that was the team that defined 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: him and he defined them as well. Now, he is 208 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: a guy who was really smart. He was doing analytics 209 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: thirty years before anyone had even heard of analytics. He 210 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: took a computer course at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore 211 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: when he was playing for the Orioles and created formulas 212 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: where he would do this to create the optimal batting 213 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: orders for the Orioles. Now, Earl Weaver didn't listen to him, 214 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: but Davey was ahead of his time. Now, I covered 215 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: only a small slice of his career. When he was 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: manager of the Oriols in nineteen ninety six and ninety seven, 217 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: I was a sports columnist for the Baltimore Sun, a 218 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: general columnist, so I covered mostly baseball because the Ravens 219 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: had just started in Baltimore at that time, but also 220 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: college basketball and football and whatever else. But again the 221 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: focus was mostly baseball. Now Davy would go on to 222 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: manage the Dodgers and Nationals after that. But those two 223 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: years when he was with the Orioles, they made the 224 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: playoffs both years. They were among the most memorable years 225 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: of my career, and it was because in large part 226 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: he was the manager. He was a total character. He 227 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: was a different guy. And the thing that struck me 228 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: most about Davy from the start, compared to other managers 229 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I had covered with the Orioles, and by that time 230 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: it had been ten years and I had covered quite 231 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: a few managers, he had a confidence about him that 232 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: was really unparalleled, and I don't see it in many 233 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: managers today the way I saw it in him. Some 234 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: would call it cocky, but he was really kind. Now. 235 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: I told this story on Fox on Saturday during our 236 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: broadcast when we had our memories of Davy, and the 237 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: story goes back to Chicago, April of nineteen ninety seven. 238 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I believe freezing night at the New Komiski whatever it's 239 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: called now guaranteed raid field. And at the end of 240 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: the game, Davy Johnson is in his office. He's still shivering. 241 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: He had made a decision that night. I can't remember 242 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: exactly the details, but the Oriols had kind of a 243 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: closer controversy going on Amando Bernitez Raddy Meers, and that 244 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: night Davy chose the one we thought he wouldn't choose 245 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: as writers. So we shuffle into his office at the 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: end of the game. As I said, he's still shivering, 247 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: and he opens the conversation not with hey, you guys, 248 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: got any questions or just ask away. He kind of 249 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: gives us a little lecture and he says, hey, I 250 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: know you guys. And when they say you guys, and 251 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: there are women too involved, but it's always you guys. 252 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: You guys means the writers and it's not said usually 253 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: very nicely. You guys were up there in the box. 254 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Second guess in my you know what and I don't care. 255 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: I'm the manager, I'm the one making all the money 256 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: and I do whatever I darn please. That was Davy 257 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: and by then, well, I guess we had some questions, 258 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: but really what can you ask at that point that 259 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: was Davy Johnson And again he was not afraid of anyone. 260 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: And the Orioles during those two years ninety six ninety seven, 261 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: in my estimation, since I started covering the sport in 262 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, they were never bigger than they were 263 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: then in terms of where they were in the sport, 264 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: where they placed themselves in the sport. They had some 265 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: outstanding players, of course, Ripken, Palmero Alamar, They had a 266 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame general manager and Pat Gillick. Camden Yards 267 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: was full every night, it was alive. And again he 268 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: was a big part of that. If you might remember 269 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: he was named that manager of the year in nineteen 270 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: ninety seven. He was feuding with Peter Angelos. He resigned 271 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: the day he was named the manager of the year. 272 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: On the conference call with the right he said, Hey, 273 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a job, but he now anywhere I 274 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: can go. It was hilarious. So that's part of what 275 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: I remember about Davy, But just from a personal level 276 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: covering him now, as I said, he wasn't afraid of anyone. 277 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: He'd take on anyone, didn't really think anything of it. 278 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: He had a nickname for me but it wasn't even 279 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: a nickname, because I wasn't sure he knew my name, 280 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: and what he called me was Mike, and I never 281 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: could figure out why. And Joe Strauss, the late Joe Strauss, 282 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: who covered the team with me in ninety seven, he 283 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: was the beat writer, Buster only was the beat writer 284 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: in ninety six. Joe delighted in this that he would 285 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: call me Mike, and I could never figure out why. 286 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: The only thing I could think of was that I 287 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: was the calmest in town. Along with John Eisenberg. We 288 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: had only one paper at that point, and Davy probably 289 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: thought I was trying to be like Mike Lupeka in 290 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: New York, which I couldn't be. There was only one 291 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Mike Lupica. But I thought that was his way of 292 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: jabbing me. Now. I never asked him, Hey, why are 293 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: you calling me Mike. I just kind of let him 294 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: do it. But I knew he knew my name because 295 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: one day, when he was upset with me, slammed his 296 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: desk and said, damn it, Kenny. So I kind of 297 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: figured out he knew what was going on. Now in 298 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: a bigger sense with regard to the team, as I said, 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: there were no sacred cows. And at that point, Cal 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Ripken in nineteen ninety six was a thirty five year 301 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: old shortstop. They really didn't have defensive metrics then, really 302 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: to the level that we have now, if at all. 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Cal was slowing down at shortstop as a thirty five 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: year old would, and Davy wanted to look at a 305 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: kid named Manny Alexander, and I believe the front office 306 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: did as well. Many Alexander was a gifted fielder, at 307 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: least from the Dominican Republic, a young guy at that point, 308 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: and while Cal was slowing down at shortstop, Davy also 309 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: wanted to reduce his grip on the team as a whole. 310 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Cal's grip. Cal under the previous manager, Phil Reagan, had 311 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: changed cutoffs and relays in spring training. Reagan tried to 312 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: do one thing Cal wanted to do another. Cal would 313 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: call pitches from shortstop. He was an incredibly influential player 314 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: for good reason. He was also the smartest player on 315 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: the field. But in some opinions with the Orioles, some 316 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: people with the Oriols, they thought maybe he was going 317 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: too far, so Davy wanted to cut him down. That 318 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: was part of this. Well, the Manny Alexander experiment didn't work. 319 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: It lasted only six games, but the issue persisted. Cal 320 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: moved back to shortstop for the rest of ninety six, 321 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: and then at the end of ninety six, in the 322 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: American League Championship series against the Yankees, the late Joe Morgan, 323 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: calling the games I believe it was for NBC, kind 324 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: of took exception with the way Cal was playing. He 325 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: pointed out one play in particular the Cow should have 326 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: made he didn't make. And I remember at the end 327 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: of that series, I called Cal and I wanted to 328 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: discuss that with him, and he explained that one of 329 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: the plays, I believe the play that Morgan highlighted most, 330 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: there was this really fast kid, a right handed hitter 331 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: who had just entered the league, and hey, his speed 332 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: was the reason that Cal didn't make the play. That 333 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: kid was Derek Jeter. Anyway, end of that season, the 334 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: Oils signed Mike Bordick, and Mike Bordick, of course, was 335 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: a really good defensive shortstop. He was not Manny Alexander. 336 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: He was an established player, and at that point Cal 337 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: could accept what was going on. He could understand that 338 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: he had to move to third base and he did, 339 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and he played a really good third base for the 340 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: rest of his career. But I'll always remember that. I 341 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: always remember Davy kind of tweaking Cal and kind of 342 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: showing who was boss. For lack of a better term, 343 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that Cal took too kindly to it. 344 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: He certainly didn't take too kindly to being taken off 345 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: short from Manny Alexander, because again, many Alexander was not 346 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: an established player. So to sum it up, I sort 347 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: of had to laugh because while Saturdy it was an 348 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: incredibly sad day we lost Davy, it almost seemed to 349 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: me that on the thirtieth anniversary of the celebration of 350 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Cal's streak, the record breaking night when he broke lud 351 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Gerrig's record, that was the day Davy passed. And it 352 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: almost seemed like one of these things in life that happens. 353 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: He was tweaking Cal one more time. Hey man, it's 354 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: your day, but you know, here we go. Anyway, it 355 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: was just a thought that came to my mind. Not 356 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: necessarily appropriate, but I want to wish Davy's family, his 357 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: wife Susan, and everyone else's family all the best. Were 358 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: thinking to Davy, he was a legend. He was a 359 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: blast to cover. He was one of the influential figures 360 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: in the game. He had a tremendous career as a 361 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: player and a manager. 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Keep your data safe. 381 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Time now for grilling Ken, the part of the show 382 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: where I answer your questions. Let's get right to them. 383 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Time is wasting, all right. The first one comes from 384 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Alex Guanta, who asked favorites to reach the World Series. Now, 385 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: as you guys know, if you're follow me at all, 386 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: my picks are always terrible. They're really terrible at the 387 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: start of the season because it never turns out the 388 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: way we think. I had the Rangers and the Braves 389 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: had that work out for me. If I had to 390 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: pick right now, who would I pick? I would say 391 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Phillies and Blue Jays. And I don't want to discount 392 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: the Brewers because I do believe the Brewers have a shot, 393 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about the blue Jays bullpen obviously, but 394 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the American League is a total free for all. I 395 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going to happen the Tigers. I 396 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: can see them winning too, but I'll go Phillies and 397 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Blue Jays right now. Rematch of what was that nineteen 398 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: ninety three? All right, next question, let's see what we 399 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: got here. This one comes from Foul Territory, who asked, 400 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: or which asks. Has Hunter Brown made the al Cy 401 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: Young a two horse race. I don't know that I 402 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: would go that far just yet, but Scoopa leads league 403 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and two point one zero, Hunter Brown is next to 404 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: two point twenty five, and then you've got Crochet at 405 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: two point sixty seven. Schooble to me is the runaway 406 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: winner here. He not only leads in the ERA, which 407 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: is just one metric, it's not the sole measure here. 408 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: He also leads in strikeout rate, strikeout to walk rate, 409 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: whip pretty much everything that you would want your guy 410 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: to lead in now. Hunter Brown is interesting because Hunter 411 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Brown has had a season that has not gotten as 412 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: much attention as Garrett Crochet's, but he has been really, 413 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: really good outside of three starts in July when he 414 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: dipped a little bit, it's been outstanding and as I said, 415 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: second in the league in ERA right now, he's going 416 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: to finish in the top three. And if he finishes 417 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: in the top three, at least the way it appears 418 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: right now, he will finish in the top three. Then 419 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the Astros get a pick because of the Prospect Promotion 420 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: Incentive program, a pick after the first round. So this 421 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: has a lot of meaning to the Astros. Crochet has 422 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: been outstanding all years as well. I can see him 423 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: finishing second and Brown third, or depending upon how the 424 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: final few weeks ago the other way around, one way 425 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: or the other. It seems to me that's your top 426 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: three for the American League, Say Young, all right, Next question, 427 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: what do we have here? This comes from Armand who 428 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: asked Ken, did you watch Mets rookie's starting pitcher Brandon 429 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: Sprot's debut yesterday and what did you think? I did 430 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: look or did watch a little bit of that, and 431 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I was impressed. All I had heard about from reading 432 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: about the Mets the last few weeks was that Jonahtang 433 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: and Nolan mcclan had kind of passed Sprote as a 434 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: prospect or had better years. At least I don't know 435 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: that they've passed him. And watching Sproke yesterday, he looked 436 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: really good. Stuff was good, stuff was down, and I 437 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: know at the start of this outing it was really good. 438 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: And then he allowed three straight hits after retiring. I 439 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: believe the first nineteen something along those lines. He looked good. 440 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Now I touched on the Mets in my column today. 441 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Three rookie starters in the postseason. I'm not saying they're 442 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: going to do that, but the possibility would certainly appear 443 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: to exist. It's happened only a couple of times. It 444 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: would seem to me to be a stretch. They need 445 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: to get Peterson going again, and I don't know that 446 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: you can start three rookies. But my goodness, McClain is 447 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: extremely talented. He is a guy that has presence. His 448 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: stuff is crazy to me. He looks like the real deal. 449 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Tong is a kid, He's got some growing to do, obviously, 450 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: but extremely talented as well. And then sprote joining that 451 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: group and listen for the future. It looks great, and 452 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: it might even be that the present is going to 453 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: require those three guys as well. All right, let's see 454 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: what we have of anything else. I don't believe we 455 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: do have anything else. All right, We're gonna close it out. 456 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Then close out this version of our show. This is 457 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: the Monday version of Foul Territory or Fair Territory. We 458 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: will be back Thursday, as we always are, the live 459 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: show of Fair Territory, myself with my co host Alana Rizzo. 460 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: Have a great week, everyone, and I hope your favorite 461 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: team doesn't drive you to nuts. 462 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 4: Betmgm is giving you the chance to win a prize 463 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: every day during the baseball season. 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