1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. We are 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: here with ESPN Draft expert Mel kiper Junior. There is 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: no the legends, the legend, the one and only Baby 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Mel just finished out with an hour and a half 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: conference call and he's jumping on the podcast immediately. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Mel, you are a beast, a grinder. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: It does. 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: It does when you get questions from all over the 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: country for all these different NFL teams and college players. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: But that's what preps you for radio shows and preps 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: you for draft day, and it gets you to always 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: tell kids when they're coming out, you can't have notes notes. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: Have you asked me a question? Let me check Hold 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: on a second. Guys, you can't do that a time 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: when you're on a radio show, and you do. We 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: do on the dary Bel Show. We do question and 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: answer and say they asked Mel segments. I can't be 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: grabbing papers you got And I always say, if you 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: write it down, you usually remember it. So if you 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: write reports, you usually remember what you wrote. 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Well, now you get to just 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: focus on the ravens, your butter. 24 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: So that's the way to do it. We got Eric 25 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 3: Tacosta's Eric was joining us today. 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: An he's got his list of questions exactly. 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: Uh, so we'll start here. 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, you had the Ravens going wide receiver with 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: your first three mock drafts and your latesty switched to cornerback. 30 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Now is is that mostly because of their Dell Beckham 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: junior edition or mostly just because there's some really good 32 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: corners there that fit the Ravens well. 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: It was basically the Beckham I think once they got 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: Hudell Beckham, Nelson Aguilar came in. As you know, the 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: third fourth option you have Rashad Bateman. You obviously still 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: have done. But I think they can draft a receiver. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: They'll certainly draft one first round. Cornerback is a little 38 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: more pressing. I felt like Deontay Banks from Maryland made 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: so much sense. You know, he had a great year 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: after coming back from that shoulder injury. Now, tracking the 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: deep ball he's got to work on. He tracks it, 42 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: but the make of that move late in the route 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: is something he used to work on obviously, and I 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: think that's something coaching can improve a little bit. Some 45 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: of that's instincts as well, so you got to kind 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: of balance that out. But I thought Deontay Banks, Emmanuel 47 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: Forbes from Mississippi State is really interesting. You had, you know, 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: you know all about the interceptions. He had six career 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: pick six his fourteen career interceptions. He's got length. He 50 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: ran four three five. He's only one hundred and sixty 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: six pounds, but he never got hurt in three years 52 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: at Mississippi State. I think Emmanuel Forbes DJ Turner coach 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 3: by Mike McDonald. You know what he did the last 54 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: two years at Michigan. Then he ran four two six 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: at the combine. I really think there's going to be 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: a good whoever Eric and the organization feels whether it's Turner, Forbes, Banks, 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: Witherspoon and Gonzales, probably Porter Junior will be going. A 58 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: Porter Junior is there. He's an option as a press 59 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: corner as well. But I think there's gonna be a 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: really good corner that they love available when they make 61 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: that pick. 62 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 4: Let's just stick on Banks for a second. He's also 63 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: somebody that had a really strong combine. I mean from 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: right down the road, Baltimore kid. You know the story. 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: Sometimes around this time of the year, I'm always paying 66 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: attention to the story, and you'll kind of fallow up 67 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: with a guy. Graves have a good story and so 68 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: that's part of what It's something I'm always kind to 69 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: keep it in the back of my mind. But he 70 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: had a great combine. But the Ravens are also a 71 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: team that says, you know, the combine confirms things, but 72 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: they don't put too much stock on the combine. They 73 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: also really valued the tape and value what a guy 74 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: did over the course of a college career. So when 75 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: you look at Deontay Banks, what do you see on 76 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: the tape beyond what he accomplished at the combine? 77 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: That's all a kid who had the aggressive nature about him. 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: He was a guy that the scenes to start. I 79 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: was looking at Ja, Cory and Bennett and I said, Okay, 80 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: Deontay Banks is coming back from the shoulder. Who catches 81 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: your eye? And it was always Banks. And obviously, as 82 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: a local kid you watch him, you knew he had 83 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: the talent. But when you watched them play and you 84 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: saw him matching up and coverage so effectively, some things 85 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: needs to work one but he broke up a lot 86 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: of passes. He was aggressive enough and in terms of 87 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: tackling and supporting the run, he had the size you 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: always thought, and I always estimated him to be a 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: four three five to four to four guy. Well, I 90 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: don't know what he is final like four three eight, 91 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: and he was always in that range of four to 92 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: four to one. You always knew he would test one 93 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: all from a recovery speed standpoint. He had, the size, 94 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: he had, the length. I always felt like, I think 95 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: even in the mock one point, oh, I had him 96 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: in the first round before I knew the test numbers is. 97 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: I had faith that he would test well based on performance. 98 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: Certainly first round test numbers come in, that's gonna say check. Okay. 99 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: So I thought first round for him, and then you 100 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: knew there were gonna be some teams in the first 101 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: round like the Ravens, Minnesota, the Giants that could all 102 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: look corner h Pittsburgh there. It was just setting up 103 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: when you looked at the way the draft was gonna 104 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: unfold from where the where I say Pittsburgh picks at 105 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: seventeen on down the line, you're gonna need to find 106 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 3: corners in the first round. Fortunately, Turner ran the fourth 107 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: two six, Forbes had the great production, then ran four 108 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: three five. Banks played well, then ran well and tested well, 109 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: Porter actually ran better at four or five than I 110 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: thought he would. I projected him at four five, six 111 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: to four. Six ran four to five, so that put 112 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: him where solidly in there. Witherspoon just ran a four 113 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: to fourth as protay as you guys know this past week, 114 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: so U dolls tested great. So all these corners that 115 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: kind of fell into place where we could have you know, 116 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: six in the first round. 117 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 118 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: You know another speaking of good stories, Joey Porter junior 119 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: would be an amazing I mean watching Joey Porter put 120 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: on a Ravens hat at mc basin. 121 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: That would be amazing. God, we'd all love that. 122 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: Do you think if he falls to twenty two, is 123 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: that a slam dunk pick for the Ravens. 124 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'd slam dunk. I think he's 125 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: to me at six two and a half one ninety three. 126 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: He's got really long arms. I say, ran four or five. 127 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: He didn't have many interceptions. He had like one career interception, 128 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: so the ball skills keep working. There were chances where 129 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: he just didn't come up with the interception when he 130 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: could have. You like to see that be a little 131 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: bit better, more more interception production. He didn't allow a 132 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: receiving touchdown this year he got and his father even 133 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: addressed this. But if you know it's two years ago. 134 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: He was grabbing his hands. He was, he was he 135 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: was a penalty waiting. 136 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: To being too physical. Joey Porter's son being too physical, 137 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: that's crazy. 138 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, ever think a Porter, Joey Porter's kid would be 139 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: too physical, you would a linebacker. He didn't do all 140 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: that grabbing the hands. He still did a little of 141 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: it after five yards. But I think his father even 142 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: said it to comment. He worked on that. Going back 143 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: was important for him to work on that because no, 144 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: in the NFL you can't do that, or it's you know, 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: third down and frustration penal the other third down, but 146 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: you got an automatic first. That was a corner held down. 147 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: So if he can work on that, a show didn't 148 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: come up with some interceptions which only won into Penn State. 149 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: Bothers me a little bit, but we'd have six two 150 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: and a half one ninety three with his length and 151 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: the way he plays as physical as he is, press 152 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: corner all the way. Yeah, if he were there, I'd 153 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: be very really interesting. 154 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 155 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: So despite the addition of Odell Beckham, I I still 156 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: feel like there's a chance that Raves could go first 157 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: round wide receiver. Like I wouldn't necessarily cross that off. 158 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: What do you think do you think there's still a 159 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: chance to go that route. 160 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: If Jackson, Smith and Jigger were there, I think you 161 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: could put it in pen. I just don't think he 162 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: will be I think he tested four four, nine to 163 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: four or five two was a pro DA forty number. 164 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: He had a great combine from the agility, quickness, drills 165 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: and all that. He catches the ball so well. He's 166 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: got versatility what he did. And remember in that Ohio 167 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: State Rose Bowl game, the two receivers of Lave and 168 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: Wilson didn't play, and he lit it up. Martin Harrison 169 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: Junior was not a star yet, so he went out 170 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: and at fifteen catches three touchdowns against that Utah defense, 171 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: and that was without the other two guys on the field. 172 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: This year he got hurt. He gonna hold it against him. 173 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: Derek Stingley Junior had the same thing two years ago. 174 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Remember he didn't play and he still went third overall. 175 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: I had a Sauce Gardner. So I think Smith and 176 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: Jing was gonna be gone. So if he's gone to 177 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: get into Zay Flowers, who I love out of Boston College. 178 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: People say he has these drops. I didn't see the drops. Now, 179 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: maybe I missed something I didn't see twenty four whenever 180 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: heiny drops, I don't see them. Where are they? I 181 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: don't know? Or usc another guy you know, not real big, 182 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: but he plays physical, He's got versatility. He is a 183 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: great route runner. Did great things at pit with one 184 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: hundred catches for Picket, did a great things for Caleb Williams. 185 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm with you a wide receiver. I had one marked 186 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: down until Beckham's the signed. Once I got word of Beckham, 187 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: I changed it. That was a late change for me. 188 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: I said, I'm getting him out of there and going 189 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: I actually had I believe Flowers going there. Yeah, And 190 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: I moved him up to Pittsburgh because I wanted to 191 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: get a corner down. So I said, I'm gonna get 192 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Banks to Baltimore. Could have gone Forbes, wanted to get 193 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: a corner to Minnesota. I'm here in Hendon Hooker. I'm 194 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: not believing that. So they couldn't stop Daniel Jones in 195 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: the playoff there at defense was terrible and secondary. They 196 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: have no corners. I felt like I gotta get to 197 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: Minnesota corner. I gotta get the Giants a corner. So 198 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: I had to work where it made sense. So I 199 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: got the receiver away from Baltimore basically after Beckham was signed, 200 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: or I would have gone that route. 201 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Now you're breaking my heart, though, mel sending Zay Flowers 202 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: my guys, Zay to the Steelers though. They's everybody's guy 203 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: and he seems like a great kid. 204 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: He is a great kid. I think the stay at 205 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: Boston College when he could have bailed. Yeah, he could 206 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: have trained Addison left pitt to go to USC Guys 207 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: moving all over the country. He could have gotten of 208 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: Boston College. Jeff Hafley loves the kid. 209 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 210 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: You know, he made tremendous catches this year in traffic. 211 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: He's electric with the ball in his hands, Jet sweets, reverses, 212 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: he can do it all. They say, tremendous kid. You 213 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: know a story about Blizza and everything about say is great. So, uh, 214 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: I just think if he's there, that's a that's a conversation. 215 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: If they Flowers and those corners are there, that's a 216 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: discussion they're gonna have that. 217 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's a trade back scenario. Let's move back 218 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: three picks something like that. 219 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: Just pick up a two. You can pick up a two. Yeah, 220 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: that's the way to go. Yeah, Like I like that's 221 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: kind of in that mold. Is Tank Dell with Houston? 222 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah late the quarterback Clayton Tune is a fourth fifth rounder. 223 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 3: I really like Tank Dell, who can help you in 224 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: the punt return game. Made a lot of big catches 225 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 3: for Houston and Clayton Tune. So, and if you want 226 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: a tallert receiver at Perriot, wake Forest will be intriguing. 227 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman had the injury this year at Tennessee, so 228 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: I'm with you. You can you can find ride receivers. 229 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna go receiver because they 230 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they're a little shy of that because 231 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: of the history, you know, and they need a corner 232 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: opposite a Humphrey, So they may wait and want a 233 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: receiver a little bit like I said, they do. Wait, 234 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some interesting options. Michael Wilson from Stanford 235 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: and other kids and people like interesting. 236 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought it was interesting. 237 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: You said you had Zay Flowers is your favorite wide 238 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: receiver ahead of jsn uh and The one other thing 239 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I noticed is Quentin Johnson, who there's been a lot 240 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: of talk in connections with him in the Ravens you 241 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: have now in the second round. 242 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: Is he kind of falling a little bit? 243 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: You think he body catches in college are fine, but 244 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: in the NFL it doesn't work. So you got to 245 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: kind of change your mode of operation a bit. For 246 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: Johnson that drops. He has to eliminate some of those 247 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: where he becomes for Shod Paraman. That's the issue. And 248 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: you know big receiver who had football is for Shod, right, 249 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: And so I think for Quentin Johnson I moved them 250 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: into the second round for that reason. I think with 251 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: Jay and you mentioned Zay and Smith and jig but 252 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: I kind of boxed myself into a corner with mcshae. 253 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: Mcshaye always does this crap to me. 254 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: He's always up to something now, always. 255 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: To Todd's always up to where I One day I said, Flowers, 256 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: he's my guy. He said, because he stood next to 257 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: him at a BC game before that. So we got 258 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: into a little thing about that. And but Smith and 259 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Jigba I had said back in August he was the sixth, 260 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: fifth or sixth best player on the board, and I 261 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: said to her in a year, how can I drop 262 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: the fifth or sixth best player on my board? In August? 263 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: What he didn't play, got a hamstring injury, he didn't play. 264 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: So I said, I gotta go back Smith and Jia's 265 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: got to be my guy. That I made that stupid 266 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: comment that I gotta have flowers because of mcshay's like, 267 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: I gotta have it as one and one a guys 268 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: to begin Flowers are right there and there together, and 269 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: then there's Jordanatison at where even Johnston is four. 270 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: Now we we talked about the possibility of a trade 271 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: back scenario right now, as you well know, the Ravens 272 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: only have five draft picks. That's got to be just 273 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: bothering Eric to Costa. Now, when we when we talked 274 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah on the pod here a couple of 275 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago, he said, if Eric de Costa only makes 276 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: five picks, he will eat a piece of paper. 277 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: So you got out the animail. 278 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: What do you think if if the Ravens only make 279 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: five picks, what are you gonna do? You said, you retire. 280 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: If they picked Bejond so retires. 281 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: I'd have been done along entire bets. I'm gonna stay 282 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: retire out of it for now. You never know about 283 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: forced retirement. 284 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: Right, I'm always flirting with that melt. 285 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. 286 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm with you, you never know, So I'm not gonna 287 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: mention the retirement part of it yet. But I would 288 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: certainly not do with Daniel. Daniel's a good friend of 289 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: mine that I don't think he's to worry, but I 290 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: would never say that. I don't know what I would do. 291 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I have to find something. 292 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: All right, don't you think about it? 293 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: Five. I'm with you on that. You know, Eric wants 294 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: to get We had the fourth round when he had 295 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: twenty five picks on the fourth The whole fourth round 296 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: was the Ravens. I loved it, but every picture was 297 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: really a pretty good one. They're still waiting for Jaalen 298 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: armor Davis to stay healthy. Right, Those fourth round picks 299 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: are going to pay big dimon ads. Uh, So Eric's 300 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: gonna be to go from I think they have more 301 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: picks in the fourth rounding doing entire drafting, we're close 302 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: to it. I think he'll he'll change things there. And 303 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: it's a great spot because if you like those corners 304 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: or you like those receivers. You can probably move down 305 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: and say I'm gonna get one of those guys if 306 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: they're all a bunch together, and still pick up a two. 307 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: So I'm with you, and I just I don't want 308 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: to get into the trip, the mock trip. I'm glad 309 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: they're over. Fourth is finalized over because your rankings. I 310 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: said this during the thing today, the conference call. Your 311 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: rankings are the most important thing, not we're gonna find out. 312 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: It's like, do you really want to know what the 313 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: presence under tree are on Christmas morning? You want to wait? 314 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: So we're gonna know one draft day with the PickStar, 315 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: It's like a couple of the seconds are pick I'm 316 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: gonna say, oh, who cares? We're gonna find out twenty 317 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: seconds anyway, it's like who cares? I'd rather wait and 318 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: say who they picking? That react to who they pick? 319 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 3: Do I like it? Do I question it? Where was 320 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: you on the ratings board? The ratings board is more 321 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: important than a mock draft, So nobody tells me who 322 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: they're picking. Eric's not telling me who they're picking. I've 323 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: known Eric for a long and tell them because I know, 324 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: but I got are you crazy? I'm not telling you so, 325 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: or if they tell you, they're probably lying to you. Anyway. 326 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: I've had that happen plenty of times. Eric won't lie 327 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: to me. I don't expect him to tell me anything, 328 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: but I've had that happen before too. So mock drafts 329 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: are what they are. I always tell people, you're trying 330 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: to fill a lead in the mock draft, and you're 331 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: trying to put a player within a certain range. If 332 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: I get five direct hits on my final mock draft, 333 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Now. You guys probably do a lot 334 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: better because you're sharper than I am. 335 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know about that one of us. 336 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, so as you're on the prediction game here 337 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: and railing on the mock draft, mel let's just here's 338 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: the question for you, so all of us. 339 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: Basically, I think that, like I think it's. 340 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: Going to be receiver or corner in the first round 341 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: for the Ravens for logical reasons. If it's not receiver 342 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: or corner, Like, how surprised would you be? And who 343 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: what could that be? Maybe maybe a pass rusher who. 344 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Were the offensive line? 345 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: What do you That's the one I think. I said 346 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: this in the conference called defensive line would be my guest, 347 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: that's their third need, that's their third biggest leed who 348 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: fits their scheme. Yeah, okay, Brian Brazil. Brian Brazil from 349 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: Clemson Local cut at Damascus High. Uh, you know, you 350 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: know the whole found great family. Brian Bersei's sister passed 351 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: away this year, so he met. He dealt with so 352 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: much mental anguish and he had the injury. He had 353 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: the medical issue this year with the infection. He had 354 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: the ACL two years ago. He had the great freshman 355 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: year at Clemsony. He was the number one player coming 356 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: out of high school at any position, coming out of 357 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: Damascus High School. So I think Brian Brian looked rejuvenated 358 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: at the combine. You know, he's got the size, he's 359 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: got the physicality. If there was a curveball throne by 360 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: the Ravens trading out of twenty two down in the 361 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: first round, it would be Brian Berzy for me. 362 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: Interesting, you know, when we when we did this last year, 363 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you spent any time talking about 364 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton. You know, we asked all these other questions 365 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, Kyle Hamilton on Draft Night 366 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: ends up slipping down, and then he's there at fourteen 367 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: and everyone says classic, of course, the Ravens get this 368 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: great safety there at fourteen who everyone thought was going 369 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: to be a top eight pick. So is there somebody 370 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: maybe it's Brian Uh, maybe it's Nolan Smith from Georgia. 371 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: Is there somebody that you think could maybe fit that 372 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: more slip through the cracks? And then all of a 373 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: sudden he's sitting there for the Ravens at the end 374 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: of the first round, and you say, how did this 375 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: guy make it to twenty two? And the Ravens are 376 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: of course end up taking him. 377 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna rip you on the quest. I destroyed 378 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: people when they asked me about basically the first round pick. 379 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: I say, it's shocking. I can't tell you shocking. I 380 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: don't know, but I'll give you you didn't say shocking, 381 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: somebody give me you'll answer it, and I'll answer your question. 382 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys that could slip through the cracks. 383 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: Was a great way to turn it. Who could slip 384 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: through the cracks and not just be a shocking pick. 385 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: I think Willie Anderson Junior I have at six. I 386 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 3: think that's slipping through the cracks a little bit for 387 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: a guy some people thinks the best player in the draft. 388 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: I argue with mcshade. McShay said, he's special, He's the Lee. 389 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: I said, no, he's not. He's not Von Miller, he's 390 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: not Miles Garrett. He doesn't have the bend. He doesn't 391 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: have that explosiveness of those guys. You know how many 392 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: I said, how many forced fumbles and will Anderson Junior 393 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: having in the last two years with all those sacks? Zero? 394 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: Wow? 395 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: Zero. I went back in check every pass rusher the 396 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: last forty years. I didn't find that they didn't have 397 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: a force fumble two years when he was getting all 398 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: that sack production and all those tackles behind the line 399 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: of scrimmage. So no force fumbles, doesn't have the bend, 400 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: doesn't have that. But he's a great kid. He's a 401 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: special kid. I had him going to Detroit. That's a 402 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: little further down than people think. I think. Tyree Wilson, 403 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: I'm not as high on as Todd Is and other 404 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: people are. He's got the foot injury. I didn't see 405 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: the dominance on a game. The game based against Renker opponents. 406 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: I know he looks the part I mean you talk 407 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: about looking like the perfect pass rusher defensive end. He does. 408 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Maybe he slips just a bit, Joey Porter Junior. If 409 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: you're a little concerned with the lack of production in 410 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: the terms of interceptions you'd want, maybe a guy could 411 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: be a little more versatile than a press guy. Doesn't 412 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: you don't like a Hansy Graviy. Maybe he drops just 413 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: a bit. Jordan Addison. I mean, you know, he's kind 414 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: of another splendid splinter type, but he's a great player. 415 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: You know, didn't test great. Maybe people drop him just 416 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: a bit. Maybe he slides. 417 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: That would be interesting. 418 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: That would be a couple of guys. I'm not as 419 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: high on Lucas van deshromioh As Totts. I haven't won 420 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: twenty four Todd thanks, he goes top ten to fifteen. 421 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: We'll see you on that. Another guy could drop a 422 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: little bit is Michael Mayer from Notre Dame. I have 423 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: him in the late first round. I have another tight 424 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: end going ahead of him in Dalton kim Ka, who's 425 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: a move tight end, not an inline guy like Michael 426 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: Mahyer is. So those would be some of the guys. 427 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Elijah Cantsey if you don't want a three technique, he's 428 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: not your guy. So he's only a three technique. I 429 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: have him dropping into the late first. So those are 430 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 3: some names of some guys that I think maybe dropped 431 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: a little bit further than people anticipate. 432 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Would van ness be a potential fit for the Ravens 433 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of stepping into the class role or now. 434 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: He could be he's just raw, he's he really needed 435 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: another year. Yeah, he's got a chance. He's a hockey guy. 436 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: He's got that mentality. I in his past rush, I 437 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: think he's got to get some pass rush moves. You 438 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: saw the numbers. I didn't see an equate to performance 439 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: on the field on a dot on a game by 440 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: game basis. I see the potential. I like the talent 441 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: and the potential. He has. The versatility. You can play 442 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: him inside, outside, up, down, You can do a lot 443 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: of things with Lucas van Nessa's what best football is ahead? Yeah, 444 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: I think he could be in the mix. He and 445 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: Brazil could be possibly. I think Mores O'Brien Brazil over 446 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Luper's fan next for the Ravens. Could van Nesko a 447 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: little higher than I have him going to Jacksonville? To 448 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: be out of Todd's right. He goes top ten to fifteen. 449 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: Right now, obviously the elephant in the room here is 450 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. 451 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Right. Do you do you get any sense that there's 452 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: a chance to there could be action with Lamar on 453 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Draft weekend, on Draft Day, some kind of blockbuster. 454 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: I don't you think the Colts could? But I don't 455 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: everything when I go to this, I always asked Morton 456 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: Adam because they're said, they'll always yell at me and say, 457 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: why didn't you call me? I would have told you 458 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: that wasn't gonna happen, So I always go to them. 459 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: And I went to them people with the brys shung. 460 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm hearing a little Bryce Younger or Stroud Brushum, all right, 461 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: Morton Adam, you made it a slam dump for me. 462 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm foring Bryce shamp So I go. I kind of 463 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: go to them now because I don't want to get 464 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 3: screamed that like them in the second grade. Here you're 465 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: giving me a lot of great you know, they why 466 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: didn't you call me? And I take it and it's 467 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: almost like they say yeah, And I don't like to 468 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: bother them for that, but I did this year. I 469 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: said I'm gonna do it. So I did bother them 470 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: on that, and they tell me whatever they have, So 471 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: I can only tell you that type of thing. But 472 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: in terms of knowing where a guy will go and 473 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: things like that, and and no happened with Lamar. You 474 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: know who the teams are, if they're if they're not interested, 475 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: now will they be? Then maybe every but just I 476 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: would just get everybody together, try to work this out 477 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: Onceton for all, move forward for this year, and then 478 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: see where everything fits in after the season's over. 479 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: And would you would you I would assume be stunned 480 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: by a first round you know, hen and Hooker or 481 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: somebody like that. And and what Day three quarterbacks do 482 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: you think could be in play? 483 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: Talking about that during the conference call today, there are 484 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: some really interesting Day three quarterbacks for the Ravens. Obviously, 485 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: steps in Bennett Todd Monkman's guy two years he wins 486 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: the national title with Todd Monkin as the coordinator. 487 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 5: Uh. 488 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: And then you got Clayton Tune, who I like, coming 489 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: out of Houston, I think is an underrated quarterback. Then 490 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: you have Jake Hayner out of Fresno State, formerly of Washington. 491 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: Then you have Max Duggan at a key CU who 492 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: had a heck of a year for the horned Frogs, 493 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: gives you that tremendous running ability and threw the ball 494 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: better this year than he had, you know, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, 495 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: U C l A eight No, Donald Purdue, Malik Cunningham, Louis. Well, 496 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys on day three, but I 497 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: would go to Duggan, Hayn, and Tune and Ben those 498 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: four for the reasons I gave would be interesting to 499 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: me on day three. So any one of those guys, 500 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: like I say Stetson Bennett for the obvious reason of 501 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: this with Todd Monkin, then I say dug in Tune 502 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: and who was the oh and the n J. Hayner 503 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: from Fresno State. 504 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: Last question for email, just going back to receiver. 505 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: You know we got we got a book end it 506 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: there and we started talking about receiver. And now I 507 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: want to close it for me with receiver. If the 508 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: Ravens go with the corner in the first round or 509 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: defensive line, who are the receivers in that third fourth 510 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: round range that you like that could be a good 511 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: fit here. 512 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: I think you got Cedric Tilman at Tennessee, who will 513 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: get pushed them into third because he had the injury 514 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: and he's not gonna run a great forty. I think, well, 515 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: it would be interesting where Jonathan Mingo from Old Misscos 516 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: you know, I thought he tested really well. He's got size, 517 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: he's got length, and ran well. I thought a good 518 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: year showed he could make some contested grabs. He could 519 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: get pushed into the third round. Possibly, But you're talking 520 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: about day three now, from the fourth round one, you're 521 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: talking day three. I'd say at Perry wake Forest, Tank 522 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 3: Dell from Houston, Michael Wilson from Stanford. Maybe I'll tell 523 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: you an interesting guy was Kayshawn Booty at LSU. I 524 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: thought it was the first round picked back in August. 525 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Brian Kelly takes over Jane Daniels as a quarterback. They 526 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: get off to a rough start. He never gets in sync, 527 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: he shows flashes, he doesn't test well. Here's the kind 528 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: of guy in the say, fourth round area, if he's there, 529 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: could it be interesting? Rashi Rice from SMU, Pooker Nakua 530 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: from BYU, Ronnie Bell from Michigan's a heck of a 531 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: tough fourth fifth receiving option. I believe will be there 532 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: in day three. Really good blocker. So I think there's 533 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: plenty of guys get your question that they wait a 534 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: little bit, maybe the third round or certainly in today three. 535 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: All right, last one for email. 536 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: And I know you credit former Baltimore Colts GM Ernie 537 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: of Corsi with encouraging you to become a draft analyst. 538 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: And I also read that he offered you an assistant 539 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: in the Colts personnel department before they left town. So 540 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: do you ever find yourself thinking what life would have 541 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: been like had the Colts not skipped town? 542 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: No, because the reality was they that Ernie thought that 543 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: that was a possibility, and he knew he would be 544 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: out and if he's out, I'm out. 545 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: Ernie was looking out for you, now he did, he did. 546 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: He said. I remember I called her Ernie and it 547 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: was like July after the Old Way trade was made. 548 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: And I remember Ernie didn't even know about that trade, right, 549 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: So it happened about a g I'm not even. 550 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: Knowing your Yeah, that's kind of that's wild. 551 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's enough to say I'm done, right, Ernie said, 552 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go into that situation, right, Ernie called me, 553 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 3: I said, Erne what do you want me to do? 554 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: Because he said go through the draft. I knew I 555 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: had that position when I went to through the eighty 556 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: three draft. But after the eighty three draft was over, 557 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: I remember Ernie you talked to called me and said, 558 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: I said, okay, were you right? He said, well, I 559 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: got a little bit of change here I can't do 560 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 3: and so what do you want me to do? He said, 561 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: just keep doing what you're doing. No harm, no found. 562 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: Nobody knows you were ever coming here. We never made 563 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: it public. Nobody knew that your reports were successful. I 564 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: was only at that point five months away from getting 565 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: a call to go interview at ESPN. So had Ernie 566 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: brought me in, I would have never gotten an ESPN job. 567 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: If they would have somebody else, I would have given 568 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: up the business. I would have to come back to 569 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 3: the business two years ago. But you know that doesn't work. 570 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: I'd have been out. I don't know what I would I'll 571 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: probably back to Calvert Hall trying to get a job. 572 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Hey, we would have We would have given you a 573 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: job here, Melus. 574 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, you're working with us. 575 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: Prefer Cover Hall. 576 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: You guys already born yet. 577 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: Well that's awesome. 578 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Mel Thank you so much as always, man, you're you're 579 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: the best. All of our listeners out there, make sure 580 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: you tune into ESPN for all the draft coverage. Follow 581 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Mel on Twitter at mel Kiper, ESPN and everywhere. 582 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: Uh for your work. Well, make sure that we're tuning 583 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: in mail. Thank you so much. 584 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: Appreciate it, guys. You got to a phenomenal job and 585 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: how you're raving fans. But you have to feel fortunate 586 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: they have you guys, so great job, man, I appreciate it, 587 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: all right, thanks, thanks, I really appreciate you guys. 588 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, big thanks to mel Kiper for stopping 589 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: by the Seat Geek Studio for this week's episode of 590 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: the podcast. 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For more info 606 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: and purchase tickets, visit www dot Preakness dot com. 607 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: So what'd you think after listening to melt? 608 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh, well, it's Great's so he's so funny. He cracks 609 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: me up. 610 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's always so great to get him. 611 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: We're we're really blessed because we have mel Kiper who's 612 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: a Ravens fan season ticket holder, like Baltimore guy, those 613 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: a team inside it out. And then you also have 614 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah for a Ravens scout, you know, so like 615 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: we just have all these connections. 616 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: It's really great. 617 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I thought it was interesting, you know, I thought, uh, 618 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: the Brian Breese or Breesy. That kind of pick was interesting, 619 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: you know that that could be the dark horse because 620 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: you know, I still think that the chances that the 621 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Ravens take a wide receiver or a corner I think 622 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: more likely corner with or one of those two positions 623 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: with their first pick, I probably handicapped it eighty percent, yeah, 624 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: something like that. 625 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: Uh, but that leaves twenty percent for a potential surprise. 626 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 4: What would you have said last year the odds of 627 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: taking a safety. 628 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that would have maybe been in the 629 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: twenty percent. Yeah, you know, I mean you had Chuck Clark, 630 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: you would already signed Marcus Williams. 631 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: And so you liked Genoson, Like I probably would have 632 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: even like if I were saying percentage wise on safety 633 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: last year, I would have made. 634 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: Down from that yeah, five to ten percent. 635 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah maybe. 636 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: So sometimes you do live in that in that percentage 638 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: for sure for sure. 639 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I thought that was kind of interesting. 640 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: I do think a defensive lineman would make sense, or 641 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, like like Mel was saying, if you know, 642 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: obviously will Anderson's and Tyree Wilson aren't falling to twenty two, Yeah, he's. 643 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 5: Like he might slip through the cracks and make it right. 644 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't making it that far. 645 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: But kind of to his point, if if those guys 646 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: slide a little bit, then maybe that does create kind 647 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: of a domino effect where a guy like a Nolan 648 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: Smith could slip to twenty two. It seems like there's 649 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: a wide range of opinions on him. Do the Ravens 650 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: go for another pass rusher, you know, after going a 651 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: dappy Owe in the first two round in the first 652 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: round two years ago, and then have David a job 653 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Abou who they view as a first round pick. 654 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: Right, unlikely but possible. Yeah. 655 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: So I just think some of those we've talked at 656 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: nauseum about wide receiver in corner, and it is kind 657 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: of interesting to talk about some of those other possibilities. 658 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 659 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: I also thought it was interesting kind of hear in 660 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: his view in terms of the rankings of guys, like 661 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: he generally views that Joey Porter Junior is going to 662 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: be gone, but not a lock. 663 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's caught him as a guy that 664 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: could potentially slip. 665 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, not a lock that he's gone. And then also 666 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: on the receiver front, like as he said, Jackson Smith 667 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: and Jagba put that one in pen. All the mocks 668 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: right now seem to have him gone, So I would 669 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: be shocked if he does end up making it to Baltimore. 670 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 4: Zave Flowers he really likes as well. But then it 671 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: seems to me like, based on what he was saying, 672 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: it's it's those two guys and then kind of the 673 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: rest of the field like he doesn't seem nearly he 674 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: likes him, but it's like those two at the top. 675 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: It seemed to be head and shoulders above everybody else, at. 676 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: Least in his mind. 677 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 4: I really like Jordan Addison, and I think he would 678 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: be good to take him. 679 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm leaning, you're leaning. 680 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: You know. 681 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: I still got a couple of weeks. 682 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: To finalize the mock here, of course, But I if 683 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: I'm going receiver, I'm really thinking hard about Jordan Adison. 684 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: If I'm going receiver, I'm going to zay mm hm. 685 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: That's an if. 686 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 5: That's an if. 687 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm going receiver, if I'm going corner, if 688 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: I'm going offense, if I'm going. 689 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: If I'm going corner, if I'm going corner, I'll go 690 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: ahead and say it. I'm good, Joey Porter. If I'm 691 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 5: going corner. 692 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: If he gets there, if he gets to Tony two, 693 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens would have a hard time passing 694 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: up Joey Porter here. 695 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he fits a lot of what 696 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: the team wants to do physically, Pedigree, pedigree. I mean 697 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 4: the Ravens not to go down the whole Joey Porter 698 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: Junior conversation, but they have been a team historically who 699 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: seems to put stock and like the pedigree thing. Like 700 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: you look at players that they've drafted. Oftentimes you hear 701 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: it in the opening that Prescott his father played his 702 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: uncle play father father. You know, like there's there's some 703 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you look at some of their first round 704 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: picks and there's a there's a track record of that. 705 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: Marlon Humphrey is that way, Yehan Paramount was that way. 706 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: There's plenty of examples if you go through the years 707 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: of of the pedigree thing. So I think that there's 708 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: merit to thinking if he's there, he could be the pick. 709 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. 710 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's all interesting stuff. 711 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I do think that certainly a third we talked a 712 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: little bit about the third fourth round wide receiver that 713 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: could be very much be in play, very much being 714 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: played mel Mel throughout about ten names there. 715 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: I couldn't keep up. I was trying to job him down, 716 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 4: you know, but it's impossible to keep up. 717 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: It's just tough. 718 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: So that is I think a verily very possible or 719 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: likely situation as well. 720 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if they if they don't go receiver 721 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: in the first round, that they're gonna fall up with receiver. 722 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Or fourth I would think, well, day two only got 723 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: one pick, third, you lock it in the third round 724 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: pick or could you go fourth round? It is hard 725 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: to imagine with them waiting all the way till the 726 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: fourth round for a wide receiver, giving that you have 727 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Odell on one year, you have uh goalres a one 728 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: year deal. I mean you come around to this situation again. 729 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 6: Next Uberne is going in the final exactly you got 730 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: Bateman in an empty room, you know, So like it is. 731 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 6: That's why just along those lines, like well, I think 732 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 6: corner or receivers the most likely the in the first round. 733 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 6: If they go receiver in the first I don't feel 734 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 6: as strongly that they need to take a corner in 735 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 6: the third round compared to if they take a corner 736 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 6: in the first if they need to take a receiver. 737 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 6: You get what I'm saying here because I just think 738 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 6: that like they have more depth, you have more depth 739 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 6: now now if you're adding a third round corner, I 740 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 6: mean you drafted two corners last year, drove two corners 741 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: in the fourth round. You have Brandon Stevens was the 742 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 6: third round pick. So like you feel like you have 743 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 6: you have that already. You have the third fourth round 744 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: corner back right, right? Thing covered to a certain. 745 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: Extent, right right, It's like, are you drafting a starter 746 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: or not? 747 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 748 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Here, we're not drafting for depth th corner. We need 749 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: a starter right now. Right, you're kind of drafting a 750 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: little bit for twenty twenty three depth at wide receiver, right, 751 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and of course add another X factor, add another playmaker 752 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: is never a bad thing, right, And you're drafting potentially 753 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: a starter for twenty twenty four. 754 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: Correct at wide receiver. 755 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 756 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: All interesting stuff. 757 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, So as always, you can email us at the 758 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: lounge at Ravens dot NFL die net. We have some 759 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 4: more guests that we are working on between now and 760 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: the draft. The draft is right around the corner. It's 761 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: going to be here. We are going to do our 762 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: full seven round mock draft leading up to draft day. 763 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 5: So MANK is already makering on this. 764 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: I actually haven't put much time until it. 765 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 5: Now. 766 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: I say, usually this time of year, I'm like heaving 767 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: the hall. I'm losing sleep. I'm sleeping. Well this time, 768 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: all right, that's good to hear. Only five picks makes 769 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: a lot of Yeah, last year. 770 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: Last year, with what eleven or twelve, it's challenging, so 771 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: it's a little bit easier. And also make sure that 772 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: you subscribe to the podcast, rate. 773 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 5: And review it. 774 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: And if you haven't done so already, go ahead and 775 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: check out the Ravens Press Pass podcast. Make sure you 776 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: rate subscribe to that as well. And the last point 777 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: that I'll mention here is that we are having a 778 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: draft party coming up at M and T Bank Stadium. 779 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 4: It's gonna be on the first round of the draft, 780 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: so that's gonna be a great time. The draft is 781 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: in Kansas City. I'm not, but there's gonna be. I'm 782 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: gonna be here with you eating all the snacks outside 783 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: the drafty, but there's gonna be. This's in Kansas City, 784 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 4: so we're kind of bringing the Kansas City barbecue theme here. 785 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: It's gonna be some legends that are gonna be there, 786 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: which is gonna be a great time. So go ahead 787 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: and get your tickets to that event. You can watch 788 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: it with other Ravens fans. You can get more on 789 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: that by visiting Baltimore Ravens dot com. 790 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: And we work from the stadium. I want some ribs. 791 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 5: I know we might have to at least stop down 792 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 5: get the plate. Get the plate. 793 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: We're not drafted until like ten o'clock at night, so 794 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 4: maybe stop down there and get the plate. 795 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: Get a yeah BBQ plate. Yeah, let's let that. Yeah, 796 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 2: let's do it. Anyway, Thanks for listening. We'll be back 797 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: with you next week.