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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two.

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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, we'll check in the NFL league meetings.

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk will join us momentarily.

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Speaker 2: Tom Izzo, Michigan State head coach, not thinking about retiring,

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Speaker 2: he'll join us coming up a little bit later on,

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Speaker 2: as will Grant Hill probably still stunned. He was on

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Speaker 2: the call with Bill Raftory and Iron Eagle with the

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Speaker 2: Yukon duke finish. By the way, I keep checking the

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Speaker 2: point spreads here for the final four and the Illinois

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Speaker 2: game with Yukon keeps kind of going back and forth

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Speaker 2: between Illinois minus one and a half. It was two

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Speaker 2: and a half yesterday. They've been kind of flip flopping

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Speaker 2: Michigan and Arizona's stayed at Michigan minus one and a half.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I also have hypothetical National Championship game betting lines. If

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Speaker 2: Arizona plays Connecticut, Arizona is a five and a half

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Speaker 2: point favor. Michigan versus Michigan is a five and a

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Speaker 2: half point favor. If Michigan plays Illinois, Michigan is a

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Speaker 2: three and a half point favorite. If Arizona plays Illinois,

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Speaker 2: Arizona is a three and a half point favorite. So

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Speaker 2: just some numbers there for entertainment purposes only eight seven

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Speaker 2: to seven three dp show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,

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Speaker 2: twitter handle at dpshow. Pull question from our one and

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Speaker 2: what are we thinking about our two seaton.

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Speaker 3: Yep, our one?

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Speaker 4: We got up there, slightly controversial ish one. I guess

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Speaker 4: who's having the worst week? Tiger Woods, Cebe Buckner, Italian soccer,

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Speaker 4: or Duke basketball. Right now, Tiger Woods has fifty two

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Speaker 4: percent of that mode, followed by C. B. Buckner, then

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Speaker 4: Italian soccer, and then Duke basketball in last there's only

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Speaker 4: about six or seven percentage points separating those three bottom

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Speaker 4: options though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Buckner is a major league umpire. He's had

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Speaker 2: some problems, whether he's behind the plate or last night

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Speaker 2: at first base in the Brewers game. Where you go, ah,

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Speaker 2: you must be watching a different baseball game because he

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Speaker 2: missed a call at first base, and you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be famous if you're a referee or you're an umpire,

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Speaker 2: it's rarely good.

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Speaker 3: Where we go? Oh, I remember that guy.

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Speaker 2: Like Roger Ayres, who was involved in the incident with

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Speaker 2: Dan Hurley, is becoming famous, even though he didn't do

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Speaker 2: anything wrong. He was doing his job. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have run with the topic of is he

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Speaker 2: did he get demoted? Did he get punished? These are

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Speaker 2: headlines there that these are major outlets that they're saying, basically,

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Speaker 2: he got demoted. He's not going to referee in the

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Speaker 2: final four. And I don't know if anybody called the

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Speaker 2: NC doublea, because you can call the NC DOUBLEA. Now

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that they're going to tell you the truth.

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Speaker 2: Source said to us yesterday that I told you before

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Speaker 2: this was going to become a story or people are

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Speaker 2: going to speculate. But I was told that he was

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Speaker 2: not being demoted. That probably Roger Airs was saying, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be a distraction here, and I would

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Speaker 2: be a distraction if I'm going to be there. And

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Speaker 2: now that's not confirmed. Just so you know, that's from

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Speaker 2: my source telling me that he did not get demoted

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Speaker 2: or downgraded, so I wouldn't be doing the final four.

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Speaker 2: The NCAA echoed those same sentiments. All right, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to more phone calls coming up. He's Mike Florio, Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Talk Live co host and his latest novel, Big Shield,

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Speaker 2: available on Amazon in ebook form for only ninety nine cents.

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Speaker 2: It's a tale of the mob pro sports in the

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Speaker 2: age of legalized gambling. Who plays you in the book

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Speaker 2: if they make it into a movie.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in the book.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're not the book. Ok Now, I'm not in

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Speaker 3: the book.

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Speaker 6: No, God, I'm trying to try to write something people

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Speaker 6: actually be interesting.

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Speaker 5: Man, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know if it was based off your father.

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Speaker 5: No, that was father of mine kind of.

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Speaker 6: That's the first one that I did that focuses on

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Speaker 6: mob activity that ran rampant in my hometown of Wheeling,

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Speaker 6: West Virginia in the seventies. My dad was a bookie

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Speaker 6: in that crew inspired by is the tagline for that one?

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Speaker 6: Big Shield is inspired by the reality of the NFL

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Speaker 6: that it tries to ignore that it could easily be

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Speaker 6: infiltrated by betting interests and players could be corrupted, and

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Speaker 6: we've seen evidence of it with the NBA and MLB,

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Speaker 6: and it's just a matter of time before it happens

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Speaker 6: to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Where is the entry point do you think for this

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Speaker 2: kind of corruption fixing games with the NFL?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think players are a very easy way to

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Speaker 6: do it not as it relates to fixing games, but

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Speaker 6: fixing bets prop bets. What we saw with Terry Rozier, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: leaving a game early, somebody loads up on the unders.

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Speaker 6: We've i seen that multiple times in the NBA. The

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Speaker 6: micro betting, which I think is becoming more and more

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Speaker 6: of a focus. Number one, because it's so damn addictive

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Speaker 6: for the gamblers. But number two, it's so easy to

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Speaker 6: manipulate the outcome of a given play. To know what

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Speaker 6: a given play is going to be the main character

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Speaker 6: in Big Shield. One of the things he does, beyond

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Speaker 6: providing information ahead of time as to what the game

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Speaker 6: plan is, who's going to get the ball, how we're

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Speaker 6: going to attack one play at a time, he lets

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Speaker 6: it be known whether the next play is a runner

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Speaker 6: a pass. And it can be that simple in a

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Speaker 6: world of widespread micro betting, where it's as simple as

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Speaker 6: is the next player runner a pass.

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Speaker 2: We look back last year at this time with our

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Speaker 2: show notes, and we spent a couple of days on

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Speaker 2: the Tush Push and it felt like it was going away.

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Speaker 2: You know, the NFL was trying to manufacture numbers for

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Speaker 2: the safety of the sport. We knew it wasn't aesthetically pleasing,

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Speaker 2: okay with the tush push.

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Speaker 3: What happened Mike.

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Speaker 6: Funny and twenty two votes against the tush push. Last year,

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Speaker 6: sixty seven percent of the league was in favor of

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Speaker 6: scrapping the rule. But for the fact that the constitution

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Speaker 6: it would have been gone this year.

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Speaker 5: There's no discussion about it at all.

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Speaker 6: Look, the goalpost constantly moved In twenty twenty five. It

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Speaker 6: was it's a safety issue. Then it was it's not aesthetic,

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Speaker 6: it's not football, It's not this. It's not that some

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Speaker 6: people thought it just flowed from the jealousy and resentment

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Speaker 6: of the Eagles because they were using it, and.

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Speaker 5: They pushed it all the way to a championship.

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Speaker 6: I think it's as simple as the commissioner was watching

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Speaker 6: the NFC championship game capping the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 6: He saw the moment where the Commanders deliberately went off

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Speaker 6: side enough times to get referee Sean Hockyle to say,

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Speaker 6: if you do it one more time, I'm awarding a

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Speaker 6: touchdown to a rule the NFL has never applied in

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Speaker 6: one hundred and seven years, and I think that sparked

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Speaker 6: swung and missed last year, there wasn't the impetus. Somebody

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Speaker 6: how remarkable the play is throughout twenty twenty five, and

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Speaker 6: it wasn't remarkable enough to put it on anyone's radar school.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but if the Eagles had won the Super Bowl again,

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Speaker 2: it would have been remarkable.

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Speaker 3: And it's the key.

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Speaker 6: It would have taken something to create an urgency.

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Speaker 5: The NFL only has so much bandwidth.

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Speaker 6: Their current urgency is this apparent plan to lock out

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Speaker 6: the officials and expand the use of replay to help

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Speaker 6: the high school and junior college officials. So it's all

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Speaker 6: about bandwidth. How much time do you have? How many

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Speaker 6: get it on that radar screen. Of the things the

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Speaker 3: Why are they going to lock out the officials?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean money is always the easy answer when

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Speaker 6: it comes to anything like this, and they claim they're

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Speaker 6: trying to improve officiating now, the commissioner said in his

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Speaker 6: problem with saying we need them to be better, we

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Speaker 6: need them to be better. The easy answer to that

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Speaker 6: is dig deep in your pocket. Use some of that

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Speaker 6: gambling money you're now getting from all the different sports

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Speaker 6: books and all the different revenue streams, and the game

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Speaker 6: keeps getting more and more profitable. Use some of that

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Speaker 6: months a year, no seasonal employees, no part time employees.

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Speaker 6: Everybody else connected to the NFL is working full time.

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Speaker 6: So they need to be careful about how hard they

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Speaker 6: bang that drum of we have to improve officiating. But

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Speaker 6: I've been following it closely now, and look, it seems

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Speaker 6: like the kind of thing dan like any other negotiation,

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Speaker 6: You get in a room, you close the door, you

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Speaker 6: sit down, and people of sound mind and goodwill can

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Speaker 6: lock them out for some of the purpose as simple

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Speaker 6: as justifying an expansion of the use of technology when

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Speaker 6: it comes to officiating.

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Speaker 2: Mike Fleurio pro Football Talk Live co host. But what

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Speaker 2: kind of implementation are we going to have that the

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Speaker 2: officials are going to object to.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they'll object to anything that would eventually

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Speaker 6: reduce the number of jobs. And the Commissioner in the

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Speaker 6: past has mentioned that they could try to find ways

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Speaker 6: to use AI to improve officiating. We know that the

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Speaker 6: quality of the camera angles is so much better. They

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Speaker 6: now have that Hawkeye system in every stadium that gives

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Speaker 6: the league and it's not stuff that we routinely see

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Speaker 6: on TV. The league has access to great looks at everything. Now,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that the league has the capacity to

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Speaker 6: properly assist the replacement officials to get everything right. Think

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Speaker 6: about how many games are played at one o'clock Eastern

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Speaker 5: Do you have enough people.

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Speaker 6: In the room who know what they're doing to help

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Speaker 6: Jacksonville at Houston and Tampa Bay at New Orleans and

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Speaker 6: the games that don't get pulled into a primetime window.

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Speaker 6: You give me a primetime game, Okay, there's only one

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Speaker 6: game on. We'll trust that the league, although that may

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Speaker 5: Won't screw it up.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, look at the controversies that come up

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Speaker 6: already with instant replay. So I think this idea that, oh,

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Speaker 6: it won't be like last time with the fail mary

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Speaker 6: from that Seahawks Packers debacle that ended the lockout and

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Speaker 6: caused the NFL to finally blink, because now they can

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Speaker 6: use replay centralized. I think that's too easy of a fix,

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Speaker 6: but I also think it's a way for them to

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Speaker 6: start experimenting with cheaper options. And maybe they are just

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Speaker 6: trying to break the union. I've seen different words used

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Speaker 6: wonder and I don't want to read too much into it,

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Speaker 6: but it's like, are they really just trying to break

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Speaker 6: this union and start over again?

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Speaker 5: We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: You had the story about it. Is the NFL looking

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Speaker 2: to cap how much an individual player can make?

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Speaker 3: Expound upon them?

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Speaker 6: Well, the NBA has had for how many years now,

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Speaker 6: as long as I can remember, which isn't very long anymore,

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Speaker 6: but they've had the max contracts and there's a limit

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Speaker 6: to what any one player can make. I've been trying

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Speaker 6: to figure out the full menu of things the NFL

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Speaker 2: Help me understand this the commissioner, actually, I think I

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Speaker 6: You got to have you got to have important scheduling flexibility.

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Speaker 6: I think it's unprecedented to be twenty two months out

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike, dang great talking to youbody.

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Speaker 2: of the hour me make way for Tom Izzo, Michigan

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Speaker 9: Well, i'll tell you what, Dan, it's good to talk

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Speaker 3: Grill and grant. Yeah you want a grill.

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Speaker 7: Oh, that sounded like it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll send you a grill, rectackle, send you a grill,

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Speaker 7: No, it's not anymore. There are no rules. You want,

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Speaker 3: In fact, it's so good, all right, best team you

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Speaker 9: Wow, I mean, I guess Michigan would have to be

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Speaker 9: You know, I thought that was a very good Duke team,

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Speaker 7: And they just kept winning. And that shows you how

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Speaker 2: Losses, coach, I got you, uh, Iowa, Duke, Michigan, Illinois

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll never say that you're afraid to schedule somebody.

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Speaker 2: But I remember when you played Yukon in the like

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Speaker 7: Well, Danny called me.

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Speaker 9: We're friends, you know, but we've gotten to be better

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Speaker 9: And I just thought, one of my players, I'm always worried,

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Speaker 3: Because while you have.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me that last ten seconds with Duke, Like,

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Speaker 7: Go ahead like we did. And that damn guy gave

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Speaker 9: I don't think anybody else cares. So I'll just keep

440
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 9: plucking along and see if I can get to a

441
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 9: Final four again.

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: Well, let's say that opportunity came up given these circumstances

443
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: with the Cavaliers.

444
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how old you were

445
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: at the time, but.

446
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 7: Well I was a lot younger, but.

447
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 9: I bet, I bet, you know, more than a couple

448
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 9: job offers in the in the NBA, and and looked

449
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 9: at one last year with Phoenix, you know, and my

450
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 9: former player Matt Hispia, and that was hard. That was

451
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 9: a hard thing to turn down because number one, I

452
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 9: kind of wanted to go with him.

453
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: Number so they offered you the head coaching job.

454
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 7: We talked seriously about it. Let's say that.

455
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 9: And then number two is you know, I've been pretty

456
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 9: vocal about it. I don't like what's going on in

457
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 9: college athletics, but by the way, neither do ninety nine

458
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 9: point eight percent center the football and basketball coaches in America.

459
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 9: And I think the kids are going to still find

460
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 9: out before it's done. It's not best for them either.

461
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 9: But in the meantime, you gotta do what you gotta do.

462
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 9: And I'll let guys like you call me old school,

463
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 9: but that means you're old school too, and I think

464
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 9: we're both right school.

465
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens when the transfer portal opens.

466
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: I've been told eleven hundred men's basketball players will be

467
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 2: in the portal, eleven hundred.

468
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 7: Eleven hundred and one.

469
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 9: My wife's thinking of putting me in too, and I

470
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 9: guess I'm part of college basketball, but.

471
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's I mean, you tell me there's any

472
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 7: sanity to that, and you tell me that's right, and

473
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 7: you know what, people like you media people don't do.

474
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 9: Sorry, but since you guys can critique us, we can

475
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 9: critique you guys once in a while. We never talk

476
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 9: about the kids that lose and fail and all the

477
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 9: problems that it creates and what it creates later in

478
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 9: their life. We just talk about the successful uorderback who

479
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 9: did it and led a team to here and there.

480
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 9: But there's a lot of guys that fail. A lot

481
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 9: more of that failed than succeed. And I don't know

482
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 9: where they're going to go when they've been to three

483
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 9: four different schools.

484
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 7: But I guess it's not my problem. I stayed put,

485
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 7: so I'm still here.

486
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: Tom Izzoel Michigan State head basketball coach. Do kids have

487
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: to go to class anymore? Because I bring up that

488
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: used to me when I was going to school, you

489
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: could be academically ineligible. Athletes were academically ineligible. I haven't

490
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: heard anybody be academically ineligible in a few years here.

491
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 9: Coach boy, I love that statement. First of all, they

492
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 9: do here, I think they do it a lot of places.

493
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 9: But second of all, you stold my line from earlier.

494
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 9: You know, are there any rules?

495
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 7: There?

496
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 9: Is there any accountability? I mean it seems like if

497
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 9: you don't like something, get a lawyer and go sup.

498
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 7: And so I don't know. I don't know what most

499
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 7: schools do. I know this.

500
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 9: I'm a couple weeks away from going to my thirty

501
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 9: fifth straight graduation. I've seen every player here graduate that

502
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 9: has graduated, which has been a high percentage.

503
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 7: And yeah, we still go to class here, Dan, we really.

504
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: Do anybody in the tournament? Did you recruit Mullins?

505
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 7: Yes?

506
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 9: I did.

507
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 5: I did.

508
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 9: I told him in the line too, that he made

509
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 9: a bad He said why, I said, you just cost

510
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 9: me a chance.

511
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: You think you had him, you'd be still playing.

512
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 7: Well, I'll put it this way. He's a pretty good player.

513
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 9: And he is. Ironically, this is a true story. He's

514
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 9: from Indiana, and my trainer is from his high school

515
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 9: and real good friends with his dad. So when we

516
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 9: didn't get him, I fired my trainer.

517
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 3: And rightfully, so you're thinking you're in right, I mean,

518
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: if you got him, don't you.

519
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 7: No, he was recruited by a.

520
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 9: Lot of people, and I never felt that comfortable about

521
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 9: getting him. But I just said we recruited him, but

522
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 9: he was. He's a hell of a player, you know.

523
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 9: And he even had some injuries this year, you know,

524
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 9: and that early on when we played him the first time.

525
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 9: But that kid's gonna be He's just going to get

526
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 9: better and better as his body fills out.

527
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 7: He's six', six he's he can shoot the ball pretty

528
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 7: good from, long, long. Long, yeah that was a lot

529
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 7: SHOT i sort of. Got he can shoot it from.

530
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: There the McDonald's All american, game it feels like everybody's

531
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: between six' five and six eight and they all do the.

532
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: Same thing if you go back to the Old McDonald's all,

533
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: american game you might Have Had kenny anderson. In there

534
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: then you would have a shock like we don't, have that,

535
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: you know separation of a six footer and a. Seven

536
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: footer feels like everybody's around the same height doing the.

537
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 9: Same, thing well we had to get, in there, You Know.

538
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 9: Josiah jervis it was six four or. Six, Five YEAH

539
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 9: and i think. You're right there was a lot of

540
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 9: that in. Those GAMES and i think That's because we've

541
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 9: got a lot of position. This basketball the big guys

542
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 9: have kind of gone by the. Wayside SORTA but i

543
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 9: DO think I Think charles Barkley and shack those guys

544
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 9: think the big guys. COMING back i do Think when

545
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 9: edie in, our league, you know The seven, ford KID

546
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 9: and i think the big guys are going to.

547
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 7: COME back i think.

548
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 9: Everything's cyclical, you know everybody gets into this three point

549
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 9: shooting because it's the new, sexy thing and, you know

550
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 9: at the end of, THE day i still think you

551
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 9: got to be.

552
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 7: Balanced and what.

553
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: You Do ryan Day At ohio state was talking about

554
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: if you, don't adapt you die. In college well he

555
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: was talking about, college football or. YOU retire i mean

556
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: the guys who are, you know right there with you

557
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: or were they've all retired or they. Retired, EARLIER yeah

558
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean Caliperio and patino are still doing it and

559
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: you but.

560
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 9: You dinosaurs what? A, COMPLIMENT yes, i, THINK yeah I

561
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 9: think i'll RETURN before, i, Die hopefully but YOU know.

562
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 7: I do i do Talk To.

563
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 9: Ryan day, You Know nick saban's a guy that you

564
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 9: know when he, WENT out, i, said wow you Know

565
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 9: because NICK and i started here TOGETHER and i Just

566
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 9: thought nick would go. Till forever and but, YOU know

567
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 9: i don't think it's any Secret that i'm not saying what.

568
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 9: Everybody's doing but the process is making this more difficult of.

569
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 9: A job, i mean you don't just. Coach anymore you talk,

570
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 9: to agents you talk, to people you.

571
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: Raise Money But tony bennett Retires And jay. WRIGHT retire

572
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: i mean they retire.

573
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 7: Good, guys too and good coaches and good friends. Of

574
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 7: MINE and I think i'm just too.

575
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 9: Stubborn, to retire, You KNOW like i feel good to

576
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 9: be honest, With, YOU dan i still have, THE energy

577
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 9: i still love. MY players i don't love, my profession

578
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 9: but that's three out of four hour on.

579
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 7: My SIDE so i got to deal with. The Profession like,

580
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 7: ryan said.

581
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 9: Adapt somewhat but adapt doesn't mean all of, a sudden there's.

582
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 7: No rules there's.

583
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 9: NO accountability, i mean what we're going, THROUGH now, i

584
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 9: mean anytime there's, a problem just get a lawyer and,

585
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 9: fix it.

586
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 7: You KNOW and i guess lawyers must be, that good.

587
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 7: Or judges but do.

588
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: These kids do these kids ask you? For money do

589
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: they say this IS what?

590
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 7: I want i asked them for, MONEY now, i mean.

591
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: But do they do they have.

592
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: An intermediary, oh yeah Yeah, They, okay okay so they, don't,

593
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: say all Come To, MICHIGAN state i want two and

594
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: a half. Million, dollars no his parents and his agency,

595
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: that okay but you're not involved.

596
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 7: In that, OH yeah i.

597
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 9: Am here, YOU know i hear all these GUYS got

598
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 9: gms and. ALL that I just i think, It's GREAT

599
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 9: but i think at the end of, the day they

600
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 9: head coaches making. The decisions, you know like IN the NBA,

601
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 9: and nfl. It's different there's, salary caps, everybody knows. There's

602
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 9: TRANSPARENCY if i looked at everything, We're, doing dan THE the,

603
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 9: nil tampering the as you say it's going to open,

604
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 9: next week the. Transfer PORTAL if i had One thing

605
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 9: i'd like, to change it would be, just transparency so

606
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 9: we all know what everybody's making and doing and then

607
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 9: we're not getting lied to.

608
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 7: By everybody transparency would really help the profession.

609
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Right now, but okay What If.

610
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: Magic johnson, Said, HERE hey i got ten million Dollars

611
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: that i'm going to give that you. Can, use okay

612
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: could you use his ten? Million dollars do you have

613
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: to report that you're using his ten. Million dollars how does?

614
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 7: That, work yeah you, saw THAT do i mean they

615
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 7: said that was a new. Big rule they're going through this.

616
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 7: CLEARING house i don't think any of. Them work you

617
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 7: heard about.

618
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 9: Rev share you know where eight school's going to get

619
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 9: five six million dollars and well programs there and to

620
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 9: get sixteen seventeen. Million dollars people are way beyond those

621
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 9: a lot. Of places, so uh that, Would HELP but

622
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 9: i don't think that would. Solve everything but coaches.

623
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 10: The.

624
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 9: Best players there's a lot of programs out there spent

625
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 9: a lot of money and didn't even.

626
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 7: Get past the. First weekend so it's not always about the.

627
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: Money, either no but it feels like theyre's still back

628
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: in the day when you know things were illegal and under.

629
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: The table it still feels like you can.

630
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 9: Do that in.

631
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: College athletics.

632
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: You can there's no reason why you can't do, something

633
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: illegal and it's that it's going on.

634
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: Right now just.

635
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Because they have this nil and every, transfer portal somebody

636
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: can give somebody money if, they want or a car

637
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: or house or a job.

638
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 9: One hundred Percent in maam now they wouldn't, say that but,

639
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 9: to me the nil means pay. For play and you

640
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 9: can just pay them to. Play them and the only

641
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 9: difference is it's it's still sort, of illegal but it's.

642
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 7: Not illegal that's what's, so hard that's what's. So confusing

643
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 7: and who who says what's legal and not? Legal anymore?

644
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: YOU know i.

645
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: Don't know but did we solve anything with?

646
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 9: This?

647
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 11: CONVERSATION yeah i still enjoyed being on your show because,

648
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 11: you're CRAZY and i probably got a new GRILL and

649
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 11: i get To Watch grand Hill after, i'm Done and

650
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 11: magic just gave me, ten.

651
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 7: Million and.

652
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 6: We.

653
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 7: FIGURE that i Still Figure john shire.

654
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 9: Did a hell of a job and it's going to

655
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 9: be a hell Of a. Final four there's a lot

656
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 9: of good teams.

657
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 7: In IT but i feel good about our run, this

658
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 7: YEAR and i FEEL like i fell.

659
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 9: Short again so one of these days you're gonna have

660
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 9: me On from indianapolis or Wherever the final four is

661
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 9: and not from.

662
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 7: My office so it looks so boring.

663
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: To, me, yeah yeah stop, disappointing me isn't It in detroit?

664
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 9: Next?

665
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: Year yes there.

666
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 7: You GO so i say that if we can get there,

667
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 7: next year you should do your show.

668
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: From there how how about if you win, next year

669
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: would you retire a walk Off, in michigan.

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 9: Now you KNOW what. I mean people asked me that

671
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 9: last year because we were one step From the. Final

672
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 9: four if you, do.

673
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 7: It you're gonna, YOU know i don't have any interest

674
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: in retiring. RIGHT now i don't think it. Would be

675
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 7: it would Be because i'm sick of.

676
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 9: The circumstances it's not going to Be because i'm sick,

677
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 9: of coaching sick of, the players love. My university circumstances get,

678
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 9: to us and but winning or not wouldn't.

679
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Change that you could walk off and walk right TO the.

680
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: NBA coach i can walk off and right to my. Beach,

681
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: house yeah and right to your. Rectech grill there, you

682
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Go and i'd be throwing like open, thank.

683
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: You Coach.

684
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Thanks dan that's Tom, Is Hill michigan state. Head coach

685
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: was it public about Him WITH. PHOENIX pauli i.

686
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 12: Was shocked when he. Said it he said he talked

687
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 12: To the suns and. IS close i. LOOKED around i

688
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 12: could find nothing about him as a candidate For the suns.

689
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Last Year Because matt ishbia is a former walk On

690
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: In michigan state who was the owner Of.

691
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: The, suns yeah he was.

692
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 5: On the two.

693
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 12: THOUSAND team i think that won the. National title he's a.

694
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: Role player it Felt like tom was saying something AND

695
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: then i don't know if he realized that he was,

696
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: saying SOMETHING and i, was like wait, a minute, HOLD

697
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: on i didn't, know that AT least i don't. Remember that,

698
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: all right let me take. A break got phone calls.

699
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Coming up We Got Grand hill top Of the hour back.

700
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: After This Fox sports radio has the best sports talk

701
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703
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: fsr to. Listen, live well we checked to See If

704
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: tom izzo had ever said anything public about taking Over

705
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: The phoenix sun's, head coach and he said it, was CLOSE.

706
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: And i Don't think.

707
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: I've heard, YOU know i knew About The. Cleveland cavaliers

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: he would have Taken the. Cavaliers job lebron was leaving

709
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: to Go, to miami so the timing wouldn't have, been

710
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: good but this one With The. Phoenix suns his Former

711
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: Player matt ishbia is the owner Of, the sons and

712
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: you know is it was, probably, SAYING hey i don't

713
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: want to deal with, you know college athletics used to

714
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: be you could. Control everything it was kind. OF simplified i.

715
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: Got you you're not going to. BE leaving i don't

716
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: have to worry, about transfers AND if, i do somebody's

717
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: got to sit out. A year i'm not worried. About

718
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: collectives i'm not worried about any of. This, stuff now

719
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: all of, a sudden coaching seems to be the easy part.

720
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: Of this it's everything else that you got to BE.

721
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: A ceo and he's, probably, Saying hey i'll take the

722
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: headache of BEING an nba coach coaching.

723
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: More, Games.

724
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 12: Yeah Paullie when coacheso, said it all of, a sudden

725
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 12: the side looked. At it does anyone is anyone heard

726
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 12: this story before About the SUNS.

727
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: AND isa a couple of phone calls In here Jim,

728
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: In Michigan, hi jim what's on your?

729
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 13: Mind Today, hey dan thanks for. Calling ME beck i

730
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 13: have two autograph stories and asking my parents secured. The

731
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 13: autographs my dad and his brother were contractors early in

732
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 13: the sixties working On A detroit tigers basement and at

733
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 13: the end of the job he sked for an autograph

734
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 13: and it Was. AL caline i still have. The picture

735
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 13: it's a black and white picture With al CALINE and i.

736
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 13: Treasure it and then about ten, years later my mom

737
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 13: was a Server in michigan Here And ebo knievo was

738
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 13: like my idol at. The time he had come into

739
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 13: the restaurant and was, sitting there and she walked up

740
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 13: to him and he wrote an autograph for me there,

741
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 13: As Well It's Happy landing Jimmy From.

742
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 7: Ebo CANEVO so.

743
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 13: I have two AUTOGRAPHS that i got buy my parents

744
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 13: and it meant.

745
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: A lot to be actually, all, right well, Thank. You

746
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: jim David, In, Ohio, morning david what's on? Your mind, Hey?

747
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 7: Morning DAN uh i got one thing.

748
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: For You the cowboys are gonna win Next Year's super bowl.

749
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: Spl bol, Thank. You david good to hear.

750
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 14: From you he.

751
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: Crushed, That yeah david absolutely. Crushed That april. Fool's joke Body,

752
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: In Bozeman, Hey Body.

753
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 14: Hey dan hey. Five eleven i've Got SOME veegus nba names. For,

754
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 14: you first a quick Throwback To april fools when you

755
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 14: were At the mothership and there was a there wasn't

756
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 14: a live, look in there was a live listening and

757
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 14: you had to pretend Fight. With dibble he stormed out

758
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 14: of the room, and yeah you fooled me and play

759
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 14: a lot of, other.

760
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: People yep.

761
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 14: AND so i feel like these, are obvious so they

762
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 14: don't remember hearing. Them Before so vegas names for you can't,

763
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 14: go kings you can't. Go aces but What About, Jack's Jokers, queen's, spades, clubs, Diamonds, dice.

764
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: Well you can't. Do jokers you don't want to be

765
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: called a joke? Or, JOKER.

766
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: I don't i don't think you want to Be called.

768
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: Queen's, Diamonds Yeah, vegas strip you know that's That's what

769
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: i'm Going With. Vegas strip Let's see Ronda. In, Texas,

770
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: hi ronda. Welcome, back.

771
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 13: Hey Good.

772
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 10: MORNING dan i also have a suggestion FOR The Nba las.

773
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 10: Vegas team, but FIRST may i just say that you

774
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 10: are rocking that green. HOODIE today i can picture A

775
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 10: younger Dan l into not A. Green volkswagon But Are

776
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 10: Midnight blue classic sixty five months staying two Plus?

777
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 7: Two?

778
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 14: Hatchbacks, oh YEAH.

779
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: That I wish i, Had, IT ronda i COULD have

780
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: i could have had a high school.

781
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: Career off.

782
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: The, Court yeah i'm a little Uncomfortable with ronda flirting

783
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: this aggressively with you on, The, Show ronda are you flirting?

784
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 10: With, me, yes, sir.

785
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

786
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: Thank.

787
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 4: You, awesome hey you're never too old. To flirt, RONDA'S boss,

788
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: i know he's been a regular late man's.

789
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: CRUSHING it I, think ronda, you know probably laid up

790
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: with surgery and sitting there watching.

791
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: Thinking, things APPARENTLY apparently i got this kind of. Mint

792
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: green you're conjuring.

793
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 7: Some.

794
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: IMAGES apparently. I know.

795
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: I'll have to tell my Wife that Ronda in texas

796
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: was flirting. With me it won't be as awkward AS

797
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: when i had to kiss the woman during The movie

798
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: blended and it wasn't in. The Script and, Sandler goes

799
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: danny try. Kissing her and my daughter was on set

800
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: and she, looked up and all of A sudden i

801
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: Had to, i'm Rehearsing and i'm what's, her name, covid,

802
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: mclenden Okay and i'd never, met Her and i'm doing

803
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: our Lines and i'm not right next, to HER and

804
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: i ended up in the scene. Kissing HER and i

805
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: came down and my daughter, she goes you're going to tell,

806
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: MOM right, i, go, YES yes, i, said honey it's.

807
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: It's acting, SHE goes, i know but, for actors but not. For,

808
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: you okay.

809
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: But, WITH ronda i. Don't know all bets are off

810
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: that won't. Be Acting

811
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: Grand hill said to join us coming up next final

812
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: hour In this wednesday after this