1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Every day, Click up the Breakfast Club, finish for. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Y'all, dump mourning, Everybody's dej n V. Just hilarious, Charlamagne 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: special guest in the building. Her album's out right now, Tasha. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: We have Tasha Cobbs learn Welcome. 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: What's up? Good morning? You look beautiful? 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 4: Thank you? 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: How you feeling cold? Yes, it's freezing outside, but it's 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: all right. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 5: It's freezing it there. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all, all right, new album Tasha out right now. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: When people name their albums like their name, usually it's 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: very personal. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: So I know that that's what this is. Yes. I 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: remember Karen Clark sheared a few years ago. 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: She did an album called Finally Karen, And I always 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: wonder why did she name this album Finally Karen? And 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 4: when I got to this album, I completely understood that 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: she was in a place where she was just settled 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: with herself, like this is who I am, this is 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: what I have to offer, And that's what this album 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: is about. 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: For me. 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: It is a testimony, so many testimonies bottled up in 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: a bunch of songs from you know, from miscarriages to 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 4: grief to celebrations and blended families. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: I mean, everything is in there. God, I'm sorry. 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: How did the gospel community feel when you put when 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: you put yourself as the. 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: Focus, it's you know what it's It's more so about 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: the testimony that God has been faithful through those through 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: those seasons, and I feel like it has been accepted 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: much better because a lot of times we can hide 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: behind like this fog of everything is holy, holy, holy, holy, 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: you never go through anything. And I think people can 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: relate more when you tell the truth about your story 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: that there are some seasons where I was sitting down 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: like God, what are you doing? 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 6: You know? 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: And people can relate to that. 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, even when we 42 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: went into the writing sessions, my main thing was we're 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: going to always offer hope that we tell our truth. 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: At the end of the day is still faithful and 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: He's been good and it has been received so well 46 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: by so many people. 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: We talked about all these things that you've been going through. 48 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: You're never scared to put that much personal information out, 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: especially because people always say church folks are the most judging. 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you never. 51 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: You know what not judge, but boyoh my goodness, you 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: know what I. 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: Last year I released a book called Do It Anyway, 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: and that was probably one of the most transparent things 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: I've ever had to do, is like memoirs. So I 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: went back into my life and my story, and I 57 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: realized that sometimes we can put these songs out and 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 4: people think you just singing pretty pretty melodies like your 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: like your story is disconnected from it. And I and 60 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: I saw through that book and the response of it 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: that people wanted to hear more about the story. And 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: so I'm willing to be transparent if it's going to 63 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: be somebody's healing, you know, if if somebody's healing its 64 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: connected to it. 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm willing to be transparent and tell my story. 66 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: And I think that's what the gospel is, you know, 67 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: just you know, telling, being honest about what you've gone 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: through and how God has always been faithful in delivering 69 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: you from that. 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, people always say that, they say your music 71 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: is always felt like a bridge between traditional worship and 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the emotional realities of every day people. So what you're 73 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: saying makes sense. But how is your understanding of calling 74 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: evolved as your platform is bro. 75 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, it is with every presentation or every entity. 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 4: So with every album I listen back to, like some 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: of the older albums like Smile and Grace, and I 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: hear this innocence that sometimes I honestly miss because being 79 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: exposed in industry and being exposed to different platforms, it 80 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: introduces you to things that you can't forget. 81 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like I want to get back 82 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: to that. 83 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: But then too, you know, I've experienced so much life 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: and so many testimonies of how God has been so 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: good in every season. You know, you have this interesting 86 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: dichotomy like, hey, you know, the innocence was great, but 87 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: then the experience is really good too, because now I 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: have testimonies that I can share that teach other people. 89 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: The only awards you won Grammy Awards, still awards, Double Wars, 90 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Billboard Music Awards. 91 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: Right, what is success to you now? Because you didne 92 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 5: achieved everything as far as award wise, So what is 93 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: success to you? What do you? What do you if 94 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: you're chasing? What are you chasing now? If anything? 95 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Wow? 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: I love the season that I'm in. I'm married now, 97 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: I have children, you know, family, that's my thing. 98 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: I love to be home. I'm just coming off of 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: sixty days sabbatical. It was just amazing. 100 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: I love being at home with my kids and with 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: my family, My husband and I we pastor a church, 102 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, so building community and family in the local 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: like a local church has always been my heart. 104 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: So I pursue that. 105 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: And you know, I believe that God honors my commitment 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: there and it still gives him this trust, like I 107 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: can trust you with greater things because you are still 108 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: committed to my local community, the people. 109 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: You know, the mother is in the church. And you know, 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: I still love that. 111 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I love. 112 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: I still love to be able to touch people and 113 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: relate to the and have community with them. So if 114 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: I'm pursuing anything, it would be that to be the 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: best me that I could be to the people that 116 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: I see every day. 117 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: And how do you give those church people hope? Because 118 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: right now I feel like this is where people needed 119 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: the most. 120 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: Right. 121 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: Groceries are high, builds a high, people are not making money. 122 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: They feel like it's a crazy world with everything that's 123 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: going on. How do you give those people hope? 124 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: Now? 125 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 7: Man? 126 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: I mean, the first answer that comes to mind is 127 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: I keep giving them Jesus. But number two, one of 128 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: the things that we focus on is what I'm talking 129 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: about now community. 130 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: A lot of people in our. 131 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: Church, they are business owners, you know, they're entrepreneurs. And 132 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: so within that community, if I can encourage everybody, Okay, 133 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: we're gonna rally around each other. If you got a 134 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: lawn service, we gonna use you if you you know 135 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: those I think we have to now in this season, 136 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: use strategy, even in the Kingdom, Like you gotta use strategy. 137 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: Even though you know we trust God and He's gonna 138 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: be faithful and he's gonna take care of us. But 139 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: I still think we have to be wise with how 140 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: we manage what God has entrusted us with. And so 141 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: that's one of the things that we want to do. 142 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: Continue to build community, support one another, support each other's businesses, 143 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: and I believe we'll thrive that way. 144 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: An impartation the sharing of what is the sharing of 145 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: something valuable yourself? 146 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: Yes, you find it Like when you read about Acts, 147 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: there was this moment where people were like selling their 148 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: goods and they would bring all of the good everything 149 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: that they earned from the goods. And that's how the 150 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: community survived, is that they would come to the church 151 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: because people would bring all of their arms and their 152 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: goods to the church and the community survived in that way. 153 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: Oh you can go. Okay. When you were just talking, 154 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: I love y'all. You were just talking about community, saying, 155 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: don't guess this turmoil crazy what you were saying about community, right, 156 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: I I always like find it. I don't know what 157 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: it is like. 158 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 6: The youth will not willingly come to the church. Back 159 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 6: back when I was younger, we we were more like, 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 6: we did want to go. We The only complaint that 161 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: I had was church was too long. But I still 162 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 6: wanted to go. 163 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: I still received the word. You know, my uncle. I 164 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: went to my uncle church. 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 6: He's best and he he was able to break it 166 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 6: down in a way where everybody got it right. I'm 167 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: just trying to figure out what the disconnect is between 168 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: the church and the young people. 169 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: I go to church and I don't see young people. 170 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: I ain't go front. I was forced. 171 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: We had to go. 172 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: Because it was too long and it was born. 173 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: You're going to church, you go sit in that back. 174 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 5: You're gonna shut that up, Baptist church. 175 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: But I do think that I don't think. I don't 176 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: like we were made to go. I don't think. 177 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: I think a lot of kids now are having they 178 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: get to choose, and I think sometimes as parents we 179 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: have to gauge it, like manage our kids and what 180 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: they're exposed to. So I do think some of the 181 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: responsibility may be on the parent, parental figure in their lives. 182 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: But I think church has changed a little bit too, 183 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: because you have different options for teenagers. Like at our church, 184 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: so our teens they participate in worship and then we 185 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: release them to their own things, so they get taught, 186 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: They have different games, stuff that they play when they 187 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: go out, like we had Sunday School and all that 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. 189 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: Now they actually have children's church. 190 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: So a lot of times, what I'm finding even in 191 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: our church is now kids are being drawn to just 192 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: different styles of worship. Now, let me tell you this, 193 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: kids these days don't want fluff. They don't want all 194 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: the religious fluff feed. They want a real God, you know, 195 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: And a lot of times we have to bring that 196 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 4: to them, like okay, all of that other really just 197 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: stuff that we were taught. We got to take give 198 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: them just the meat they want, the meat of who 199 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: God is, and I think they'll really pursue it much better. 200 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: Like I have two teenage well she's nineteenager more. 201 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 4: We have a twenty three year old and I have 202 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 4: a nineteen year old, and some of the questions that 203 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: they ask us just about God, it's it's totally It's 204 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: much more mature than some of the questions I would 205 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: have asked at nineteen because they're exposed to so much more. 206 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: And I feel like we have to take the fluff 207 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: off and just give them like the meat of who 208 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: God is, and that's what they really want. 209 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: And I think being having it rooted in real life experiences, 210 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: like like how your outu is. Like when I listen 211 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: to Pastor Torrey or Sara Jax Roberts or bish you 212 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: TDJAS when they're preaching, it's rooted in something real ask 213 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: me going on that we're dealing with, and here are 214 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: the scriptures that can. 215 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: Help you get yep, something they can relate to. 216 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 7: And I also think too, like when you get the 217 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 7: kids back into church and you take away all the 218 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 7: fluff you give them kind of like a foundation to 219 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 7: like go through every day life with yeah you got 220 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 7: this on church with John Legend and talk about teach 221 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 7: me how to church on the Monday. 222 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, break that day for us. So I feel like 223 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: there are people when I went into this album. One 224 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: of the things that I wanted to do. I remember 225 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: Kirk Franklin, Mary Mary. Back in the day, they used 226 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: to have these songs where I was like, I don't 227 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: want the person who just got saved Sunday to miss out. 228 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: I want to give them something they can relate to. 229 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: And the truth is they may come to church and 230 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: they may not understand everything, like they may not understand 231 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: the church lingo and what we're doing, but they can 232 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: understand lyrics that says, Okay, God, I love what I 233 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 4: felt Sunday, But teach me how to get that in 234 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: my house today. Teach me how to feel you, teach 235 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 4: me how to pray, Teach me how to love on 236 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: you and build a personal relationship with you today. 237 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: So that's where that song came from. Because the preacher 238 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: ain't gonna be in your house. 239 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 4: You ain't gonna have a keyboard player there, Like how 240 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: do I build relationship with God on my day to day? 241 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: And that's what that song is about. 242 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 7: And yet day to day because on your first song 243 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 7: on the album, I needed God you or I need 244 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 7: God You talk about dealing with like social media comments 245 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 7: and like the end of day and I've never thought 246 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: about gospel people dealing with because it was so like, 247 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 7: I know, I pushed back, but he's never talked about 248 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 7: comments and being in the comments. 249 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: I was when I heard that. 250 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 7: I'm like, I wonder what she deals with on a 251 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 7: day to day just like, all right, I see y'all 252 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 7: leave me alone, Like how what is your experience like 253 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 7: with that? 254 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: Everybody has an opinion about everything, and sometimes can they 255 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: say in the comments though they oh no, did they 256 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: talk about your clothes, They talk about your head, they 257 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: talk about you. 258 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: Know, just everything. It's the same. 259 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: And I guess it's the platforms that have been given 260 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: through social media. 261 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: You have to manage it. 262 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 4: You have to you know, it could be good, it 263 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 4: could be bad, depending on how people use it. And 264 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 4: sometimes we're human, you know, you get in the comments 265 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: and you're like, wait a minute, you know. 266 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: Because it's it's like you you're you're focusing on okay. 267 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: So one of the last things that happened with me, 268 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: I wore a red outfit to the Stellar Awards. 269 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: It was amazing. I mean that people was like, oh, 270 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: she sold her soul to the devil, you know, the 271 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: color red. I'm like, what in the world. 272 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: I could not believe it, and so I literally had 273 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: to just take a moment away from social media because 274 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all miss the whole moment. It was like, 275 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: this is on television, millions of people are going to 276 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: be watching. I had an opportunity just to spread the 277 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: word of Jesus, and y'all talking. 278 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: About my clothes, you know. 279 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: It's it's so, You're right, I have to just kind 280 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: of pull away sometimes and refocus on what my calling 281 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: is and who I'm called to. 282 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of call, and when did you first realize 283 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: that the ministry God gave you wasn't just about singing 284 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: but about impart. 285 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 286 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 7: I love this. 287 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: So my dad was a pastor, so they calling me 288 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: a p K all right, And he started passoring when 289 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 4: I was ten years old. And I came from a 290 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: family of singers, so everybody singing, all of my aunts, 291 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: all my cousins, everybody, And I wasn't like the. 292 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: Singer in the family. 293 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 4: My dad actually was cultivating me to be a speaker, 294 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: like a communicator. So my first sermon I appreciated when 295 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: I was ten years old and I wasn't really singing 296 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: on a stage like that. But I grew up in 297 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: a small town called jessep, Georgia, and we were bored. 298 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: So we started like this teenage choir. Everybody it was 299 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 4: like fifty of us. We had band singers, all that 300 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and we were singing Kirk Franklin song 301 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: Now Behold the Lamb by Tamla Man and the lead 302 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 4: singer could not make it. He got a minor fender 303 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: bender could make it to the concert. So everybody was like, Tasha, Tasha, 304 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: you got to sing out. I was like, guys, I 305 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: don't sing in front of people. 306 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: What's wrong with y'all? 307 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: So, needless to say, I ended up singing the song 308 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: that night, and just like people do now, when I 309 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: open my. 310 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: Eyes, people were crying, they were in the floor in worship. 311 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking at my dad like, okay, this sing what 312 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: we've been doing, this is different. They're looking back at me, 313 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: and I think we realized at that moment that the 314 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: singing and the songs would be an avenue that would 315 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: be used for me to also get the gospel to people. 316 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: So it wasn't like a dream either. I just loved, 317 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: Like I just said, I loved singing in church. I 318 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: loved building a choir. 319 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: That was my thing. 320 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 4: So it was never a dream to be on like 321 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: major platforms. I just loved being in church, Like I 322 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: got disciplined by not being able to go to church, 323 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: like what you talk about. I was one of the 324 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: kids who was on the front roll. 325 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: I'm now early. I loved church. 326 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: So for for this plat for me to have the 327 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: platforms that I have now, it's just something new. It's 328 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: it's not something that I dreamed about I thought about. 329 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: I just loved to sing. I love to worship and 330 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: I love God's work. 331 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 7: You talk about your your dad, and I know you 332 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: have your song do it anyway on the project, And 333 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 7: I can't imagine how emotional that was for you recording 334 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 7: that song because I know it's based off feel like 335 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 7: a lot of life lessons you give you in. 336 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: Your book yep, yep. 337 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 7: So talk about, you know, deciding to put that on 338 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 7: this album and get the process of like writing it 339 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 7: and recording it. What that was like for you emotionally. 340 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. When I when I wrote the book, I wrote 341 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: it off of my dad's the the last thing that 342 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: he taught me, the last lesson that he left with me. 343 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: We were on the way to the Stellars. I just 344 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: released the song Break Every Chain, and I was nominated. 345 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: For several awards. 346 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: And my dad was an old school pastor, so for 347 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: him to leave on a Sunday it meant the world 348 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: to me. So my dad and my mom came to 349 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: Nashville and he was They had like this catwalk that year, 350 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: and my song was positioned in the middle of the 351 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: room and he was literally probably three seats away from me, 352 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: and I could see him just beaming from ear to ear. 353 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: But leading up to going to the Stellars, the Grammys 354 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: were seven days later, and he kept saying, Dadd's gonna 355 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: be with you in Nashville. I'm not going to LA, 356 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: but I want you to go anyway, like we're thinking, Okay, 357 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: nobody ever thought she was going to lav you know, 358 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: And I thought that's why he was saying that. So 359 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: he showed up in Nashville and on the way. I 360 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: won three awards that night, and the last picture I 361 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: have of him is him holding my awards up getting 362 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: on the elevator. He was getting on the elevator said Dad, 363 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: oh wait a minute, let me stop you and take 364 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: a picture of let me see the backstory is my 365 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: daddy paid for my independent project with his full savings. 366 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: He's spent his whole savis and so for years he 367 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: kept saying when does the executive produce. 368 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: To get his money back? But that was his arm, 369 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: that was his one joke. 370 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: So I promised him that if I ever won awards, 371 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: I would give them to him. So that night he 372 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: took those three Stellar awards home and he was so 373 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: so so proud. The next morning, he had a heart 374 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: attack in the car and he and he died with 375 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: my mom in the car, but he saved her life. 376 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: Like even in that it was just the story is 377 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: just absolutely amazing, Like. 378 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 379 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my mom my dad they dated since she 380 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: was thirteen years old. They were the only two they 381 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: ever been with. And in the car, so you know, 382 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: my father had the heart attack immediately, they're basically saying 383 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: that he passed away, but even in death, he lifted 384 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: his foot up off of the gas and you know, 385 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: gravity is gonna make you press the gas. He was driving, 386 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: he lifted his foot up off the gas while he 387 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: was having a heart attack, and the car just kind 388 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: of floated into a ditch, so that my mom wasn't 389 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: harmed at all, and she was able to get out 390 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: and just run across the street and say, hey, I 391 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: think my husband's having a heart attack. 392 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: I think he's having a heart attack. 393 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 4: And in that moment, my dad used to always say, 394 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: if I ever get a glimpse of God's glory, I'm 395 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: not coming back. So that's how I think he's like, 396 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 4: he ain't coming He's not coming back. But I remember 397 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: him saying, baby, Daddy's not gonna be with you in LA, 398 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 4: but I want you to go anyway. And I and 399 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 4: in that I believe that he was teaching me that 400 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: life is gonna get hard, your heart is going to 401 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: be broken, You're not gonna understand the seasons that you're in. 402 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: But Daddy wants you to dig deep and do it 403 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: anyway whatever you feel like God has called you to do. 404 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: And so that was the last lesson that he left 405 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: with me. My father was fifty four. Yeah, but he 406 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: was a great man. He got paid. I'm he said, 407 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: what is executive produce? To get his money back? Didn't 408 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: you know what? I didn't have it to pay him. 409 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 5: I was trying. 410 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm taking it. Yeah, I always tried, y'all. 411 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: They You've always been transparent about like therapy and and 412 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: doing in the work. What do you feel the faith 413 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: community still misunderstands about mental health? 414 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness. 415 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: You know, I think there's a greater focus on it 416 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: than there has been in the past. And I feel 417 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: like many people who are who have platforms are talking 418 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: about it more like you were just mentioning Sarah. Sarah 419 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: is very adamant about pushing like with her Woman Evolve. 420 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: They talk about it all the time. We always have 421 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: therapists there. She's a good good friend of mine, And 422 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: I feel like more people are being open about it. 423 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't just it was something that was just kind 424 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: of taboo, you know, because we. 425 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Got the Holy goals. You know, God's gonna help with everything. 426 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: And I think now we can just kind of teach 427 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 4: it a little different that God uses people to help us. 428 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: You know, most of the time, what you will find 429 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: when God is going to do something in the earth, 430 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: he's going to use a man to do a person 431 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: to do it. And so I feel like there's a 432 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: greater emphasis on it. We could do better. You know, 433 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: you have therapists like Kobe Campbell, She's absolutely amazing. If 434 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 4: you've never heard her of, y'all gotta go just kind. 435 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: Of read some of the stuff that she does. You know, 436 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: she's absolutely amazing. 437 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: So you have a lot of God centered Kingdom therapists 438 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 4: who are being exposed now, and I think, Jack, yes, 439 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, yeah. And so you have a lot 440 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: more of that that can be trusted. And they're relevant, 441 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: like we were saying, you know, it's it's like they 442 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: know the language, but they also have the education to 443 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: help you manage like your mental health. And I think 444 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: it's great. I think it's a lot more exposure. We 445 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: can do better, but I think we're getting good at it. 446 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: When did you know you needed it? Like you know, 447 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you're faith for us and you believe 448 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: God is enough, you know I needed I need therapy too. 449 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 450 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: I remember, man. 451 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: It was about twenty ten, and I was actually a 452 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: worship leader at my church, and I would go to 453 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: church and I would like sing these songs just like 454 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 4: I was just talking about, and watch people be healed, 455 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: watch them have moments in the presence of God. And 456 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: I would go home for like three and four days 457 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: in the dark under the covers, crying. Didn't understand why 458 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: just you know, just heavy. And I remember one night 459 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: it just got so heavy. My cousin was my roommate, 460 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: and she was like, Tasha, I gotta go like it is. 461 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: You could feel it in my house, you know. 462 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: And I remember probably after she left, maybe two nights later, 463 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 4: I just woke up in the middle of light like 464 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: I gotta do something about this, Like I can't. I 465 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: can't continue to offer hope and inspire people. And I'm 466 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: in this dark place every day. There has to be more, 467 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: you know, for me going to therapy. Mine was self rejection. 468 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: I dealt with rejection very bad. I was you know, 469 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: we celebrate O. Taasha got in trouble because she didn't 470 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: want to go to church. This is but along with 471 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 4: that was the persona of perfection. Like I adopted this perfection. 472 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: I remember being ten years old and one of the 473 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: deacons from my church would come to me and say, hey, 474 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: my son is in your class. Make sure he doing 475 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 4: his homework. Can you imagine a weight of responsibility a 476 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: ten year old has to take on. So I adopted 477 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: this thing like I can't have any flaws, I can't 478 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: have any issues. I gotta be perfect, And so I 479 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: hit my flaws for years, and that went into adulthood 480 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 4: and it just turned into this darkness like I can't 481 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: accept who I am because I don't think people will 482 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: accept it. I don't think they'll love me, you know, 483 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: I don't think they want me. And so mine was 484 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 4: really birth from self rejection. 485 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: Do you have a question your faith? 486 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: Like all the things that you've been talking about that 487 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: you went through and I see all the things that 488 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: you wrote on the. 489 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: Album Cover the World, which I love you take that 490 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: down fire? 491 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: Did you have a question in your faith? I did, 492 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 5: you know what? 493 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: And it wasn't during those times that I was just 494 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: talking about. It was actually more recent. 495 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: My husband and I went through a miscarriage and in 496 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: that time, you know, I was like, man, God, I 497 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: spend my life worshiping you. I spend my life inspiring 498 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 4: and teaching the Gospel of Jesus. And the one thing 499 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: that I really wanted was the one thing that I 500 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: did not get. And I remember walking through that season 501 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: and I questioned, you know, my faith was shattered. I 502 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 4: remember calling my mentor, William Murphy and I said, met, 503 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: my faith is shattered right now, and he was like, good, 504 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: that's a perfect place for God to put you back together. 505 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, of course, you don't want to 506 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: hear that right now. I'm like, okay, we don't want 507 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: this lesson right now. 508 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: But it was the truth that during that season, I 509 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: realized just how weak my faith was, that hey, it's 510 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: the one thing that you wanted, but God wants to 511 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: do it differently. I have a friend who her name 512 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: is Jackie Green, and she says this. She was like, 513 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: we all we often want God's will, you know, we 514 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: want the promises, we want the prophecies, and we want 515 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: the blessings, but we don't stick around to hear his way. 516 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: And God's way for us was adoption. You know, we 517 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: have a beautiful baby boy. His name is Asher. He's 518 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 4: four years old, and he looks like us, acts like us. 519 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: He's a perfect fit to our family. And it was 520 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: God's way, not our way. And when I you know, 521 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: when I relinquished that like thinking it has to be 522 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: done this way and I allow God to do it 523 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: his way. 524 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: You know, my faith was is so much stronger. 525 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 7: You know, it's so much stronger in your faith being 526 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 7: stronger and something like what you just talked about with 527 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 7: your fertility journey, when you when you're opening up and 528 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 7: kind of being honest about that, because I know you 529 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 7: also talked about this in your book as well too. 530 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 7: What do you tell others who they're not at that 531 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 7: silver line yet? Like, because I'm sure it took you 532 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 7: some time, Yeah, you to this point. Yeah, how do 533 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 7: you because you say you want to bring hope all 534 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 7: the time, how do you coach someone through a challenge 535 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 7: of faith like what you went through? 536 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: Wow? You take it day by day, you know, and 537 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: you feel what you feel every day. There were some 538 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 4: days where I, you know, people would try to call 539 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't want to hear it. I 540 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 4: don't want to hear a scripture. I don't want to 541 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: hear prayer, you know, because y'all are the same people 542 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 4: that's telling me you won't have a kid. 543 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: You don't have a kid, you know. And I feel like, 544 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: you know, God is God. 545 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: He is not moved off of his throne by our humanity, 546 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: you know, And I think we've made it seem like 547 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: we can say things, are do things that offend him 548 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: and make him less God. That's you know, he wants 549 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: our truth. The Bible talks about worshiping in spirit and 550 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: in true truth. And the truth is is that in 551 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: that moment, you don't feel like it. You know, you don't, 552 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: you don't feel the strength of your faith, and you 553 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: don't feel encouraged. And God wants that truth too, just 554 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: as much as he wants us when we're on a mountain, 555 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: he wants us when we're in the valley too. 556 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: When you think about your father, God blessed that you 557 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: think about like miscarriages, How is grief shifted the way 558 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: you minister the people? 559 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love this question because a lot 560 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: of times we minister from a place like we just 561 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: want to you know, I just want to my songs 562 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: to be rooted in scripture, rooted in scripture. But sometimes 563 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: we also have to have cultural intelligence about the people 564 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 4: that we're ministering too, Like there are people who are 565 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: dealing with grief for real, and they don't want the 566 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: fluff like we were just talking about. They want the honesty. 567 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: And so for me, it kind of shifted my approach 568 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: and ministry that I'm thinking there are people though there 569 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: may be thousands of people out here in this arena 570 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: or wherever I am, but they are dealing with real grief, 571 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: real heartbreak, and they don't want a false hop, you know, 572 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: they don't want the fake this is just a pretty song. 573 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 4: They want somebody who's gonna reach their heart, you know, 574 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: And what comes from my heart, I believe will reach 575 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: their heart. And so yeah, those experiences really changed the 576 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: way that I minister. I remember after my dad died, 577 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 4: about two weeks later, I had a concert because I 578 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: canceled everything for about two weeks, and I was in 579 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: la standing on the stage and I remember just being 580 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: heartbroken and people are still worshiping, you know, they're still 581 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: with their hands lifted, but I'm on the stage destroyed, 582 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: like my heart is broken. And a song from my 583 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: childhood came back to me. And the song, you know, 584 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: it says, I'll. 585 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: Say yes, Laury, yes to your willing, to your way. 586 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: I'll say yes, Lauries, I will trust you and obey. 587 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: And then it says, when your spirit speaks to me, and. 588 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: I changed the lyric right there on the stage with 589 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: my broken heart, I'll still agree and. 590 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: My answer will be yes, Lord, Yes. 591 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 4: And in that moment, I realized that my gift wasn't 592 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: just for the cloud, that it was also for me, 593 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: Like in those broken moments. God gave me a gift 594 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: that would help usher me through different seasons too. You 595 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: got on the album God in the Valley, the Hend 596 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: that keeps On Holding Me. Those songs are very much 597 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: like the song you just sang, yeah, And I really 598 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: feel like so many people are relating to those songs 599 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 4: because it speaks directly to their season, especially right now 600 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: in the world that we're in. People don't you know, 601 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: like you were saying, people don't know sometimes where their 602 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 4: next meal is gonna come from. You know, there are 603 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: mothers and fathers who are really challenged about how they're 604 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 4: going to take care of their families. And I feel like, 605 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 4: you know, we have to offer some hope with the 606 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: gifts that we have. And my gift is music. My 607 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: gift is teaching. And if I can offer one person hope, 608 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 4: you know, through my gifts, that's my desire. 609 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: And this is a live album. So this is my 610 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: first studio album. 611 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this is the first time I did a 612 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: studio All of the rest of them they were live, alright, 613 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: So how do you for a live album's? 614 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's no like, you don't go back, you 615 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: don't you stopping right, you know? 616 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: And I love the live albums because I'm a worship leader, 617 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: so you know, it gives me a moment with the crowd. 618 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: We're we're vibing off of each other. 619 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 4: The studio was actually harder for me. This was that 620 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: was a new space with no crowd. You know, I 621 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: enjoyed it eventually. My my husband is my producer, so 622 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: he's like kind of coaching me through it. But I 623 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 4: I I realized that we had an opportunity to bring 624 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: other elements in with the studio this time. 625 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: Like when you're doing live, you get what you get. 626 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: You know, you got the background singers, the band is there, 627 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: you got the crowd, and you capture it that night. 628 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 4: But this we had an opportunity to just walk it 629 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: out day by day, like we sat in writing sessions. 630 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: I had a chance to kind of share my heart 631 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: with all of the writers. And then one of the 632 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: things that I loved the song with John Legend on church. 633 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: People don't know this. Both of our family sing and 634 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: so we suppress them. They came to our church for 635 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: like a church anniversary and we set up one of 636 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: the rooms as a studio. 637 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 3: So you hear our uncles and aunts, our parents are 638 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: all on there. 639 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: Our cousins, so the background singers, so we had a 640 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: chance to bring in other elements that meant something to 641 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: us on this project and I love that, so. 642 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: Listen. No, they don't get paid round. 643 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: This might be a stupid question, but how do you 644 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: feel the spirit in the studio. I feel like when 645 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: you're live, you probably feel that spirit, you know what 646 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean. But in the studio it's little manufactured. 647 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 3: That was one of the it's not manufacturing. 648 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: That was one of the challenges that just kind of 649 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: with me transitioning from the live crowd, feeding off of 650 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: the people to now. 651 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: And the truth is is that I just envisioned the 652 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: people that I would be ministering to. 653 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: Like I was just talking about the mother who may 654 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: have dropped her kid off and she's having a moment 655 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: and she's listening to church on a Monday. You know, 656 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: I'm seeing her in my spirit, like I really want 657 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: this song to minister to her. So it was still 658 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: a crowd, it was just different. It was a different 659 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: approach on how you know I addressed that crowd. 660 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: I enjoyed that. I know you can't wait to sing 661 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: it live. Yeah, the reaction. 662 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 7: On your last album why don't know this was your 663 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 7: last album before this one, Heart Passion. 664 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 3: Pursuit, we did. 665 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: I did another one called Him that was like a 666 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: gospel record, but the Heart Passion Pursuit, Yes, that was 667 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: a strong record. So on on that project, I know 668 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: that you had gotten some pushback for putting Nicki Minaj 669 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: on the album, right, and you've never like talked about 670 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: like why you chose to put Nicky on the album, 671 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: but you've always stood by she was meant to be 672 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: on that album. On this project, you open it with 673 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: La Craze and I instantly understand why he's. 674 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 7: On that song. 675 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you talk a bit about why. 676 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 7: You chose Nicki Mina should be on that album and 677 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 7: putting Le Cray on this album? Like how do you 678 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 7: go about finding your features? 679 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: And like wh did that lead? 680 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 7: You? Spiritually stand by those moments because you still buy 681 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 7: the Nicki Minaj moment piercely. 682 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: Lots of lots of prayer with a Niki moment with 683 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: the song I'm Getting Ready. 684 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: I took a different approach. 685 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 4: It was twenty seventeen, so this was before the pandemic, 686 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: when people were just putting everything out and I really 687 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: felt like during the rehearsals preparing for that record. We 688 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: were in the studio for like seven days, and so 689 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: we would sing the song, sing the songs, and I 690 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: would just put like little clips out, like Okay, this 691 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: is one of the songs we about to record. 692 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: And Nicki saw one of the. 693 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: Clips off I'm getting ready and she sent me a 694 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: comment and was like, hey, Tasha, when you finished this song, 695 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: send it to me. I'm gonna put sixteen bars on it. 696 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: And she didn't DM me. She put that out there 697 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: in front of the entire world, so everybody come see it. Yeah, 698 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: it was a comment, and so I was like, Okay, 699 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: first of all, she's serious, this is crazy. And number two, 700 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: I started just to just listen to that song, like 701 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: you said, even with the Lule cray Win, and I 702 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: was like, you know, this song, it's a church vibe, 703 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 4: but I really feel like this will work, especially with 704 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: what the content of the song was. 705 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: And so I did it. 706 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: You know, after praying about it, I was like, you 707 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: know what, I feel like platform that she has this 708 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: is gonna expose some people who may not come to 709 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: our churches, may not ever get a gospel record. But 710 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: now if a Nicki Minaj follower will listen to a 711 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: song that said I'm getting ready to see something I've 712 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: never seen, the blessings of the Lord. 713 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: Like that was just different. 714 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: I was like, man, okay, this is an opportunity to 715 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: spread the gospel, and so we did it. 716 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: I sent her a song. 717 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: I mean, she said it right back. I was like, 718 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: this is amazing, and so that's really it's really how 719 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: that happened. And we One of the things that people 720 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: don't know is that we also had relationship. So like 721 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: NICKI would text me, you know, I would text her, 722 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: check on her, that kind of stuff. And so said, again, 723 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, not as often now, but you know, 724 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 4: I just love Nikki. 725 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 3: I love her. 726 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: I love her, and you know, just like anybody else 727 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: that we love family members. There are some things that 728 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 4: we don't agree with, you know, but at the end 729 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: of the day, I love her. I want the best 730 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: for her, you know. And that's what that was about. 731 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: Even the last songs. I did a song on her 732 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: record called Blessings and it came about the kind of 733 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: the same way she texted me, was like, Josha, listen 734 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: to this song. I think you will be hearing on 735 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: this song. And most of it is birth from that relationship. 736 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: I really like those. 737 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 6: I like I like those type of crossover collaborations like 738 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 6: you know you and Nikki and then Kirk Franklin did 739 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 6: it a Little Baby, because you know what it does, yeah, 740 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 6: big record, you know, and it's a crossover and it's 741 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: also a spreading of the word. 742 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 5: Is leading people, leading. 743 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: People back to him, you know, because he wants that. 744 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: He wants that leadership. 745 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 6: And if two other genres can do it, you know, 746 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 6: hip hop meets you know pop or rap meets pop, 747 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 6: why can't you know, always people it's always people who 748 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 6: has negative things to say. 749 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: About it, like that's always gonna come. Yeah, But that's 750 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: leading people, that's spreading the word. 751 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Nikki talks about believing in God when she raps sometimes 752 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: it sounds like she's speaking in tongue. 753 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 5: But what I saw said, you know. 754 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 7: Her off the stage, her relationship with God. I was 755 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 7: just like, what is it that the churchy people are 756 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 7: blocking us from understanding walk because that's where that's where 757 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: a lot of the backlash was coming from from you. 758 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 7: I felt like she shouldn't have been doing the music 759 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 7: with Nicki min I and I'm like, man, I wonder 760 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 7: how many other times we're blocked from things spiritually because 761 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 7: people don't accept it and like what we missed and 762 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 7: that you. 763 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: Know what from that collaboration. I've had people, you know 764 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: a lot of things. 765 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: A lot of people came back and they were apologizing 766 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: maybe years later, like two years later. You know, I 767 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 4: didn't understand why you did the collaboration, But now I 768 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: understand and I apologize, Like I respect people who can 769 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: do stuff like that, and I'm never gonna, you know, 770 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: go back at them back and forth. I'm like, hey, 771 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: you know, I understand sometimes it's hard to accept, accept change, 772 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 4: or accept something different or receive something new. 773 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: So I get it. 774 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: But I've had people who was like, hey, that was 775 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: my first time ever buying a gospel record. You know, 776 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: that was my first I didn't believe in God until 777 00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: I heard that song. 778 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: I hurt people. 779 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: People have said that to me, and so to hear 780 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: those testimonies, that's what it's about, you know what I'm saying. 781 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: So I'm here to spread the gospel, and if he 782 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: has to use a platform like a Nicki Minaj in 783 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: order to do it, then I say yes. 784 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: And like you said, God will use people yeah, like 785 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: yep ye. Are you more of a artist or worship 786 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: leader nowadays? 787 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 4: Ooh ah, that's a good question. I'm a good mixture 788 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: of both. I'm forever a worship leader. One of the 789 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: things that I did not know until entering into the 790 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: industry is that being an artist is something totally different 791 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: like you, it doesn't. 792 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: It's a job, you know, you have to have. 793 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 4: You have to have information and knowledge and wisdom on 794 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: how to manage you as an artist, and everybody doesn't 795 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: have that. Like you can be a great singer and 796 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 4: not an artist. You can be I mean a great 797 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: rapper and not an artist. I think the artistry is 798 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: the part that makes you stand out. 799 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, knowing how to. 800 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 4: Do an interview, you you know, knowing how to to 801 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 4: speak well, how to carry yourself, how to manage your business, 802 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 4: your business affairs, and those are things that I learned 803 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: along the way. 804 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 3: But all of that comes with artistry. So I would 805 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: say that I am I am both, Yes you are. 806 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: We appreciate you. Let's get into sir, Okay, get a 807 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: record what you want to hear, let's play church, church all. 808 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 5: Let's get into it now. I appreciate you for joining us. 809 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 5: We got to close out with the preid. 810 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: Okay, am I plenty? 811 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 4: Thank you all right, I'm de Lord. Thank you, Thank 812 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: you for being good, thank you for being faithful in 813 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: every season. I thank you even for this platform, for 814 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: all four of these amazing people who spread inspiration, who 815 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 4: used their gifts and their talents just to help other 816 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: people and to and to just be God in the earth. God, 817 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: I thank you for the opportunity to talk about you 818 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: to millions and millions of people, to anyone who may 819 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: be listening, to anyone who may have heard, who may 820 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: be in a space of grief, you know, a space 821 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: of depression. God, I ask now that you would show 822 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 4: yourself to them in a special way today. In Jesus' name, 823 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: you be glorified. 824 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, a man. 825 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 5: Yes, Breakfast club, good morning, Thank. 826 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: You, Thank y'all. 827 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 5: Every day, breakfast 828 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: Glove, y'all done.