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Speaker 1: The following program has been prerecorded. Marry Marry Christmas. Mary.

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Speaker 1: Business to Ron Andanian got me to thinking about newer vehicles.

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Speaker 1: You know, when they want to get rid of something,

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Speaker 1: when they want something to go, it just goes. And

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Speaker 1: when they want to get rid of the cars, they're

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Speaker 1: just gonna make parts of availables. Jolly yes, buying on

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Speaker 1: his sag the car Doctor. There's a big problem up north,

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Speaker 1: this whole you know, greenhouse gas emissions thing. They've decided

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Speaker 1: that Santa Slay can't use mine reindeer because there's too

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Speaker 1: much emissions from them, so he's not going electric. Gives well,

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Speaker 1: he's not talking about going electric, but we're cutting the

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Speaker 1: mine reindeer. Back to about war. Welcome to the radio

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Speaker 1: home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctor, since this is

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Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive

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Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If you're mechanics giving you a

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Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The garage.

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Speaker 1: Doors are open, but I am here to take your

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Speaker 1: calls at eight five five five six and now running. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's uh. I guess it's my turn to

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Speaker 1: talk and we'll get this, we'll get this show started today.

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Speaker 1: So welcome aboard and thanks for tuning in and taking

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Speaker 1: us today. You know, we know you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate you being here and spending this time

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Speaker 1: on the weekend with us. Uh. You know, I want

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Speaker 1: to tell you the story about this hun day they

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Speaker 1: came into the shop recently. It was a Hyundai Veloster,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, Veloster V E L O S T E R.

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Speaker 1: Cute little name, cute little car. Um kind of a

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Speaker 1: zippy little thing. It's a little older, you know, eight

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Speaker 1: years nine years old now, it's had a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fourteen thousand miles on it, I think it was, and

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Speaker 1: it had a check engine light. And we've we've serviced

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Speaker 1: this car from day one, so we know this car

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Speaker 1: very well, and we know you know what's been onto

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Speaker 1: it and how it's been serviced and how it's been maintained,

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Speaker 1: and that that always makes it easier, you know, it

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Speaker 1: really does it. It's just easier working on that car

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Speaker 1: you're more familiar with, and it's also less expensive for

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Speaker 1: you the customer in the long haul, because there's there's

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Speaker 1: certain things you don't have to test. You you know

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Speaker 1: what heart rate and basic blood pressure is. You'll look,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have to be that concerned about it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's you can get past the basics quickly. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's my point. Well, this check engine light was

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Speaker 1: it was being set because it at a P zero

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Speaker 1: So purge on an evaporative emission systems is there? Well,

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Speaker 1: would pull air through the house and it would it

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Speaker 1: would vent or purge the house of of stale air. Well.

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Speaker 1: They do the same thing with automobiles. Okay, there's an

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Speaker 1: at certain times to scavenge or clean the canister, it

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Speaker 1: will they will open up the vent. They will open

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Speaker 1: I ran through basic diagnostics and I couldn't prove anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: I smoked it, meaning I, you know, put a smoke

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Speaker 1: So I looked at the FTP. You know, my theory was,

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Speaker 1: and and not record a code? And I looked at

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Speaker 1: Josh is a Hyundai specialist. UM having worked at the

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Speaker 1: had this great conversation on the theory of what could

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Speaker 1: problems could have create, and he walked me through some

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Speaker 1: it was really great. It's it's one of the big

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Speaker 1: So now I had smoke coming in through the purge

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Speaker 1: I got that. I got the seat up, and I

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Speaker 1: not liquid. And I sat there and banged the sensor around.

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Speaker 1: I have an FTP that won't pull itself or show

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Speaker 1: and you know that didn't fix it. How does the

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Speaker 1: that's the hardest thing in this day and age to

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Speaker 1: forget the other bad components that are attached to the car.

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Speaker 1: Forget the other components that are attached to the car.

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Speaker 1: Take the circuit, Take the EVAP sensors, take the canister,

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Speaker 1: we're working on, and prove how it works. Prove it

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Speaker 1: to me what's good, and I'll show you what's bad.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, I had narrowed it down. I

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Speaker 1: had looked at what's good. I knew it wasn't the purge.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I never would have gotten to realize

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Speaker 1: of course, talking to Opus iv S and and the

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Speaker 1: the pattern failures that these vehicles having in the fuel

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Speaker 1: helped moving along on a big, big tip of the car.

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Speaker 1: Doctor had to my buddy Josh over there. He gave

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Speaker 1: having them there. So that was the repair of the

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Speaker 1: it's always a good thing to do something like that,

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Speaker 1: away going. So that's how it works. A different repair

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Speaker 1: outside the box always very important. So UM, and that's

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Speaker 1: and solve them, just like we did for that gentleman

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Speaker 1: happy he picked it up. Evidently it had been UM

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Great, thanks and thanks for

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Speaker 1: determine whether or not you're in specification or if you

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00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: really do have a problem. When you say they always

429
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: have different specs, you're you're saying, for example, Ford may

430
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: say their evaporative emission system UH has to meet an

431
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: evap pressure of and I'm going to just make up

432
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: a number. Half a pound ford Ford may forwards a

433
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: half a pound g M may say a quarter pound

434
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: Chrysler is a tenth of a pound of flow. And

435
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: you've you've got to know what to set the machine for,

436
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: to calibrate it, to adjust for that, because if you

437
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: test Afford at an incorrect pressure rated for GM or

438
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: a Chrysler, your diagnostics are going to be off correct.

439
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: Well they could um. So in in the world, you're

440
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: really talking about low pressures less and one p s I. Yes,

441
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: these are a half of p s I and they're

442
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: set to that UM. But you know, the flow rate

443
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: that's coming out of the machine and out of the system, right,

444
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: is really what you're looking for because even think about

445
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 1: these systems are not airtight, completely sealed, right, They everything

446
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: leaks a little bit, and especially finding that in a

447
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: lot of different areas now that everything leaks just a

448
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: little bit, and so there's specifications and how much these

449
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: systems can leak and so see and that's and that's

450
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: what that flow meter is going to help you decide

451
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: and find exactly right. So let's let's jump up a

452
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: second here. So you and I should you shared a

453
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: piece of paper with me, Um, some case studies that

454
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: redline Diagnostics, redline Detection was working on. Uh, you know

455
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: the first one I'm looking at as a P zero

456
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: two nine nine it's a low boost code fault on

457
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm imagining, well, it's a turbo charge. It's something turbo charge.

458
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't tell me with the vehicle, it was something

459
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: it says, tell me about that repair. Yeah, I obfuscated

460
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: some of these things. So we work a lot with

461
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: field service engineers at various different O E M s

462
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: and you know, we they share our information with us, right,

463
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: so that we can understand how the products being used,

464
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: and you know, we can make product improvements and and

465
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: really you know, really understand these use cases. And yeah,

466
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: so you know the one I had set you just

467
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: to share is you know one of these vehicles was

468
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: that at a P two lobos code. That's very common code. UM.

469
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: And this is more on the intake high pressure side, right,

470
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: So we're talking about high pressure machines and stimulating pressure

471
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: for intakes and for used for exhaust as well. So

472
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: in this case, we found um that this head dealer

473
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: had this car for five months. The owner was driving

474
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: around a free loaner car. Technicians replaced the turbo charger,

475
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: that replaced the e c U, the map center, the

476
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: wiring to the map sensor, the parameter censor, the wiring

477
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: to the barometer sensor. But basically every component has been

478
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: replaced on this vehicle. And and and by the time

479
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: they got to check for the leaks, they found well,

480
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: they actually used the proper equipment. The leaks were just

481
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: too They had two loose claimps, that's it. And so

482
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: this is what we find, right, this is this is

483
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: really common. You know, we if you look at the

484
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: return rates on turbos, um, you know, when when the

485
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: turbos go back um, you know most of the time

486
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: UM and I hate to quote exact numbers here, but

487
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: it's a surprising amount of time. It's not the turbo

488
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: that's that's a fault. It's some upstream component, some sort

489
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: of leak in the system. And so you know that

490
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: this is something that we can help with. And and

491
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: this is where we can help with warranty with those

492
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: and we do help with warranty with those UM using

493
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: using equipment like this, because you know, technicians see you know,

494
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: they you know, throw throw things at it, right. It

495
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: reminds me of the e c U days back in

496
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: the day, where you know, if there was a problem

497
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 1: with electrical just replace the e CU. Start there. It's

498
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: always it's always the computer. And how many of those

499
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: computers are actually bad? Two out of two? Right, yeah, yeah,

500
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: it's the same same, you know, don't just go and

501
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: replace the turbo. It's usually some other problems, right, Yeah,

502
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: I can imagine, but you know, and I guess the

503
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: problem becomes that repair shops dealers in Independence alike just

504
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: don't have this type of equipment right now, for whatever reason,

505
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: A lot of them don't, right, or they're using the

506
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: wrong kind of equipment for the wrong applications. So this

507
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: is common as well. So a lot of shops have

508
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: evap pressure smoke machines, right, So there's low low pressure machines,

509
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: but they don't simulate boost properly, right, So so for

510
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: for intakes, for boosted intakes, for exhaust systems and things,

511
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: you really need a lot more pressure and a lot

512
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: more flow. And then it uncovers, right, It uncovers some

513
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: of the leaks that you wouldn't necessarily see with low pressure.

514
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can find them with low pressure but in

515
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: a lot of cases it's it's an applicates need higher

516
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: pressure and higher flow to be able to find something.

517
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: So I guess is our conversation evolves today as the

518
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: industry evolves. There's a low pressure EVAPP smoke machine, right,

519
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: and then there's a high pressure smoke machine or high

520
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: pressure diagnostic machine to look at passageways and and and

521
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: connectivity you know, tubing and boost under boost uh. You

522
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: know that's and that's and that's a completely different animal

523
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: in using a low pressure machine and a high pressure

524
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: application not gonna work exactly. Yeah, Yeah, you don't want

525
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: to use a need that machine and boosted applications. You

526
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: don't want to use um boosted machine in your EVAP

527
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: system right way, too much pressure you're gonna cause damage.

528
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: So um, so you have to use the right or

529
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: you get a dual unit. And so we have dual

530
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: UH units that have both EVAPP and high pressure all

531
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: in the same unit. And we have a couple of

532
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: those types of units and those have been popular as

533
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: well because especially with the o E programs at least lately,

534
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: because a lot of the equipment that's out there is

535
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of long in the tooth, right, and they've had

536
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: it for a long period of time, or maybe it's

537
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: broken in the corner, right, and these kinds of kind

538
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: of situations. So it's just replacing both at the same time,

539
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: and so you know, you get kind of a two

540
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: and one operation. Yeah, I'll tell you what Sit tight,

541
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Sit tight, Chuck, let's full over. Take a pause. When

542
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: we come back, I want to talk a little bit

543
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: about high pressure machines, and let's talk about some of

544
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: the high pressure solutions that you guys have worked with

545
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: with the dealerships, if you have any in terms of

546
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: finding solutions, and just give our listeners an example. So

547
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: stay put. I'm here with Chuck and Cade from Redline Detection,

548
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. I'm Ruinini and

549
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: the car doctor. Don't go anywhere. You better watch out.

550
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: You're better not try. You better not. I'm telling you why.

551
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back, listeners, running your car doctor. You're here with

552
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Chuck and Kate of Redline Detection. You know, Chuck, I

553
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: owe you an apology. I was I was calling your

554
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: redline diagnostics, but I think redline. I think diagnostics, right,

555
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm giving I'm giving the whole company a whole another

556
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: name here. Uh, you know, when when we pulled away

557
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: for the pause, we were talking about low pressure evapp

558
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: and smoke machine uses, and then we're gonna get into

559
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: some of the high pressure applications because that's that's new

560
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: to the listenership, right we they haven't heard me talk

561
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: about that much because I think it's new to the industry. Um,

562
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at the case studies that you've

563
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: got here. Uh you know which any one of these

564
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: was a high pressure application. There's something here about a

565
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: turbo wastegate problem. Um, you know, can you give us

566
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: an example of we're using high pressure is required in

567
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: a in a in a in a smoke machine type

568
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: of setting, if I can say it like that. Yeah. So,

569
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, high pressure is probably the more interesting conversation,

570
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: at least to me these days, because it's the hot

571
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: top topic right now, right because you know, maybe five

572
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: of vehicles sold in the US for turbo charge, but

573
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: you know by next year it's going to be closer

574
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: to right, So you're seeing this all over the place.

575
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Even Toyota is getting into into turbo these days, right,

576
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: and kind of the last fashion of that. And so

577
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things. You know, we say

578
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: we we make diagnostic leak detectors, but we really what

579
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: we do is we we help people find more problems

580
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: right to fix with their on their customer cars. Right,

581
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: we find business for people because you don't think, you know,

582
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: there's less cars sold today. People are keeping the cars longer.

583
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: If you have a shop, you have to you know,

584
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: you have to keep things going if you're a technician.

585
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: Right so, um, so we we like to say that

586
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: because it does help people. Um, if you like California

587
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: at six dollar gale on the gas. Um, if you've

588
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: got a leak, you know, a lean condition due to

589
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: a leak, you know what does the computer do? It

590
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: adds more fuel. Right. So, fuel economy is related to

591
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: leaks in vehicle systems as well, right so, and and

592
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: and a pinhole or a pinhole rather, you know, can

593
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: go a long way towards creating a problem that may

594
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: not set a fault code, but may skew that car

595
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: or run a little too far to the left or

596
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: the right of of balance, if I can say it

597
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: like that, and yeah, absolute, yeah, yeah, that's right. And

598
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: so you know it just helps you to especially these

599
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: intermittent problems. The drive ability issues right um. And on

600
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: the in the diesel side, um you know the after

601
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: treatment um and detecting problems in the after treatment right um.

602
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: So all that on gas cars it's the exhaust right.

603
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: So you know, a catalytic converter. So if you get

604
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: a P for twenty low catalyst system efficiency code for example, right,

605
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: you know a couple of the things that could be wrong.

606
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: There could be the intake manifold has air leaks, right,

607
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: or you might have leaks in the fueling jecture. Right.

608
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: So there's there's some there's some things there to think

609
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: instead of replacing the catalytic converter, um, you know, perform

610
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: a proper diagnostics so you can rule those things out

611
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: because these are expensive components. Right on the heavy duty side,

612
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you're running into excessive regent

613
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: on your your GPF, or you know you have low

614
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: power or you know low boost or your engines derated,

615
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: all those can be attributed to leaks as well. So

616
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: it really does give you, um, you know, more tools

617
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: in your more arrows in your quiver if you will

618
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: to be able to solve problems for customers. Well then

619
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, like I always say, diagnostics. To me, what

620
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I preach is it's not looking for what's bad. I

621
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: look for what's good. Tell me what's good. I'll tell

622
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: you what's bad. Process of And sometimes that's what you

623
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: have to do, because you know, to do a simple

624
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, high pressure, low pressure or whatever, smoke test

625
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: to check ducting to make sure it's air tight, to

626
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: check manifold to make sure their air tight, and so forth.

627
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, twenty minute test chuck half

628
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: hour tops, depending upon the complexity of the system. Yeah,

629
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: not even right, But a lot of these tests are

630
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: ten minutes, five minutes. So we're doing we know it's

631
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: not that. If it passes right, well, that's that's a

632
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: great point run because a lot of the value that's

633
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: often overlooked is if you don't have a leak, that's great.

634
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: At least you know that you don't have a leak,

635
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: you can move on to the next thing. And so

636
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times you just don't know, right,

637
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: And so this this is where we again, you do

638
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: you get into well, let's try replacing this component or

639
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: that component right to try to see, okay, does that

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Speaker 1: take the code away? And there's a good forty plus

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Speaker 1: codes right that have have to do with leaks. You know,

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Speaker 1: as part of the diagnostic process, it gets awful expensive.

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Speaker 1: It's sure, it's sure would pay to just have have

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Speaker 1: proper equipment and do the testing right a lot of time. Chuck,

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Speaker 1: the clock is gonna grab us. Where can the listeners

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: go get more information? We're gonna have to have you

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Speaker 1: back because I can see where there's an awful lot

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Speaker 1: to cover here. Where the listeners going to go to

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Speaker 1: get more information? Bib Yeah, So our our website, so

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00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: we're you know, you can find our product around the world.

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Speaker 1: We're in a hundred sixty countries. All the products built

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Speaker 1: in California. It's all made in the USA. And um

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Speaker 1: it's Redline Detection dot com. So it's www dot Redline

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Speaker 1: Detection all one word dot com. Perfect. Chuck, you have

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Speaker 1: yourself a good holiday, see and thanks for stopping buying.

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Speaker 1: We'll get in touch. We'll see you again real soon.

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Speaker 1: Be well. I appreciate it. Run always a pure thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: I'm ronan Ay and the car Doctor. We're back right

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Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away, look at Frosty go and

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Speaker 1: we are back. Welcome back. Running the end of the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor here. Thanks again to Chuck Kincaid and the

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Speaker 1: folks over there at Redline Detection and uh, I call

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Speaker 1: him Redline Diagnostics six and one, half a dozen or

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Speaker 1: the other. But just great stuff, great products, and great information. Chuck.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for taking the time. We know what

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Speaker 1: a busy guy you are. Uh. The name of the book,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just gonna segue right into this,

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Speaker 1: Tom if that's okay, Shelby American sixty years of High Performance. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just off the press. Matter of fact, I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's it's off the press, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna hit the shelves somewhere around mid January of

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Speaker 1: this year of three. And it's written by Colin Comber

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Speaker 1: Rick Kopeck co authored it with him. It's got a

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Speaker 1: forward on up by James Farley, who is the president

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Speaker 1: and you know, a Ford and it is a fascinating,

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Speaker 1: fascinating look at the early days of the you know,

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Speaker 1: the stories behind the scenes of Cobra daytona Mustang G

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Speaker 1: T three, g T G T forty and so much more.

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Speaker 1: It's just a great book, a great read. Color pictures,

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Speaker 1: black and whites. Uh, you know a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things I didn't realize about Shelby. I was a little

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Speaker 1: too young at that time. But in the stories that

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Speaker 1: I've heard and and things, you can just you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a great sit down at the coffee table. Uh,

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Speaker 1: pick it up and just you know, look through it

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Speaker 1: on a rainy Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon type of a thing,

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Speaker 1: just to look at the history of the automobile and

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Speaker 1: what it is, and we're the whole concept of what

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Speaker 1: Shelby created came from. So just a great, great book.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be out there. Uh well, I guess

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. But you know, just

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know I've reviewed it

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Speaker 1: and just a really great solid book. We're actually gonna

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Speaker 1: get try and get a couple of copies, so if

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Speaker 1: we can do some giveaways in the coming weeks, you know,

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Speaker 1: we like to give away books up here. Well, that

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Speaker 1: about wraps up this hour with the Car Doctor. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody for joining us. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: um you know, I hope you enjoy when we talk

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Speaker 1: to guys like Chuck kin Kaide I do I learned

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Speaker 1: something every time I talk to somebody I couldn't manufacturer,

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Speaker 1: you know, the insight on what they design and how

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Speaker 1: and why. You know, we all look at cars sometimes

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Speaker 1: we go, ah, that's a piece of junk. Why they

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Speaker 1: make it? You know, there's always a reason why they

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Speaker 1: designed it like they did, and there's always a good reason.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're here to present to you. So

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Speaker 1: until the next time, I just want you to think

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Speaker 1: about that and be aware that there's always a reason,

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Speaker 1: there's always a cause. And to remind you once more

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Speaker 1: that I'm running any of the card doctor. The mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See