WEBVTT - Episode 2: The Woman Who Spoke Out

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<v Speaker 1>A note to listeners, this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence.

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<v Speaker 2>There is corruption everywhere in the world, literally everywhere and

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<v Speaker 2>at every level. The difference is that in Malta people

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<v Speaker 2>have a corrupt attitude towards corruption. They blanket they tolerate it.

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<v Speaker 2>The powers are not really separate institutions a week. The

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<v Speaker 2>police operate as an extension of the government. Judges and

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<v Speaker 2>magistrates are politically appointed. It's a dreadful situation, ripe and

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<v Speaker 2>designed for abuse and corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>So Manuel, where are we? What we're looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the very middle of the Live Island, the

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<v Speaker 1>small hamlet of Bignia, about one hundred farmers this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's dry here, but the tree feels it

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<v Speaker 3>was quite a busy road, a line of houses on

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<v Speaker 3>the ridge and then the ridges bare.

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<v Speaker 1>John and I are in maltawn on a country road

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<v Speaker 1>about half an hour's drive from the capital, Valletta. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the last episode, we heard how a

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<v Speaker 1>team of contract killers were here watching Daphne through her

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<v Speaker 1>windows with her rifle. But on that evening they didn't fire.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very last minute. Their plan hit a snack.

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<v Speaker 1>According to courtrum testimony, just Before the shot could be taken,

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<v Speaker 1>getaway driver Chinese George de Georgio, learned there was a

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<v Speaker 1>roadblock on some of the roads leading to Dafani's home.

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<v Speaker 1>An escape by car suddenly seemed too risky, so the

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<v Speaker 1>plan is aborted.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, they decide they will carry out the hit using

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<v Speaker 3>a different method, but just as deadly. Over to our

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<v Speaker 3>left can see the sea, and then just there there's

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<v Speaker 3>a police box.

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<v Speaker 1>Who lives here, well, definitely Carmegality. I lived here, her

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<v Speaker 1>family still lives here. It's a house that overlooks the

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<v Speaker 1>valley within the sort of the center of the island.

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<v Speaker 1>This little hamlet is mostly a farming community, and she

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<v Speaker 1>had the last house on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridge, So this ridge here, Where were the spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Is They're right across so through the trees in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that wouldn't be visible to us from here, but

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<v Speaker 1>they could see us from there. She was being spotted

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<v Speaker 1>and watched by the people who are planning to kill her.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's punishingly hot. We're actually standing in the shade,

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<v Speaker 3>but it feels like thirty degrees now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you're seeing just the atmosphere that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been there on the day sixteenth October twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hot day like this. October is the

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<v Speaker 1>tail end of summer, but the landscape is dry, the

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<v Speaker 1>heat is on, and Dephnely was running an afternoon errand

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<v Speaker 1>on a day just like today.

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<v Speaker 3>From my hard podcast topic Studios in Vespucci.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm John Sweeney and I'm Manuel Delia and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Crooks Everywhere, Episode two.

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<v Speaker 3>The woman who spoke out.

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<v Speaker 4>Ter Daphne was a year older. She's the eldest of

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<v Speaker 4>us four. We used to share a bedroom when we

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<v Speaker 4>were children and up to about the age of twelve

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen on.

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<v Speaker 1>A small island. A lot of people thought they knew

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<v Speaker 1>a big personal little like Daphne, but her sister Corinne

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<v Speaker 1>saw a different side.

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<v Speaker 4>The strongest memory I think books and reading writing. She

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<v Speaker 4>didn't care for much else, you know, especially at school.

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<v Speaker 4>She just loved reading and writing.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be the mid seventies definitely, as a young teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Deafney's son Paul has written a biography of his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>It describes her so hungry for reading matter that she

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<v Speaker 1>forms her own book club in school, sharing British children's

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<v Speaker 1>literature like Enid Blyton Exotic Adventures from afar off Land.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing I suppose, rather than books alone,

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<v Speaker 4>was that she really loved magazines, and she always said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if you want to know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>you ought to keep in touch with the world magazines

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<v Speaker 4>well the way I mean it's a spre internet. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Deafnely was born the same year that Malta stopped being

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<v Speaker 1>a British colony nineteen sixty four. Let's say a more traditional.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, such as the time of austerity. In a postcolonial

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<v Speaker 4>we couldn't travel much, you know, people didn't at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>It just didn't happen. I mean, we grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>a neighborhood where you know, my mom had grown up

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<v Speaker 4>in the same street. It is a seaside town, so

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<v Speaker 4>it is a tourist destination, but when we were children,

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<v Speaker 4>tourism wasn't very well developed.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the seventies and eighties. Who are still a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly poor nation and also living under a mild form

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<v Speaker 1>of socialism, which made luxuries like foreign travel or teenage

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<v Speaker 1>fashion feel exotic and precious. Even Enid Blyton was a

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<v Speaker 1>form of escapism. Daphnie's was a family that was fairly

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<v Speaker 1>prosperous and successful part of the English speaking educated middle class,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of people sometimes seen as more British than

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<v Speaker 1>the British, the kind of people who don't have great

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<v Speaker 1>socialist credentials, and that can cause resentment, as we will

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<v Speaker 1>hear down.

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<v Speaker 3>With the British Empire and all that. I mean, no

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<v Speaker 3>one likes to be associated with all that gasslyl colonial nonsense, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and these things matter. There are deep social and

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<v Speaker 1>cultural divides that still run through our whole culture and

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<v Speaker 1>through Daphne's story even today.

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<v Speaker 3>The way her sister Koran tells it, even as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 3>young Daphne was already looking outside Maulta for inspiration, a

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<v Speaker 3>world that was outside her grasp, listening to Adam Ants

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<v Speaker 3>and Bob Marley, reading British teenage magazines, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a particular one called Jackie, which was aimed at

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<v Speaker 4>teenage girls, you know, dealing with fashion and romance. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the typical problem page you get for teenage girls, that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of thing. That was a magazine definitely used to

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<v Speaker 4>like very much. I remember that she used to buy

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<v Speaker 4>it regularly. My parents used to buy lots of magazines,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Life magazine, Spectator magazine, Newsweek. So there was

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<v Speaker 4>that connection, and I do remember this sense of the

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<v Speaker 4>wider world.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way the country was run at the time

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't making things easier for teenagers.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't, let's say, a time of opportunity for teenage girls.

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<v Speaker 4>That way, education beyond the mandatory first years of education

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't greatly encouraged.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, the socialist government was attempting to force

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<v Speaker 1>a Catholic schools to abolish fees, effectively forcing them out

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<v Speaker 1>of existence. The authorities saw church schools as religious and elitist,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not part of a socialist Malta the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>schools that many middle class families like Dafni's used, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the notion of a church school makes you think

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<v Speaker 1>of xalatory and conservatism, but at that time these schools

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<v Speaker 1>were a rare spot of independent thinking that the government

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<v Speaker 1>could not control. They felt threatened by that. Forcing church

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<v Speaker 1>schools out of business became a mission for a government

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted to monopolize education and, as they put it,

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<v Speaker 1>to cultivate future generations of socialists. And so while Daphne

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<v Speaker 1>is reading Jackie magazine and listening to Damant, her classmates

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<v Speaker 1>are beginning to join protest marches to keep their school open.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is an unusual coalition. Teenage rebellion meets the

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic church.

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<v Speaker 1>Deafhney was nineteen at this time and not really political yet.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, huge crowds of people marched through the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was a time when there was a protest

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<v Speaker 4>in our own hometown. For some reason, I hadn't gone

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<v Speaker 4>to that one, but I remember definitely had gone there

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<v Speaker 4>with her friends out in the street, a few streets

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<v Speaker 4>away from our home, and then the police moved in.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then, Maltese police were not known for their life

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<v Speaker 1>touch and.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember one of them punched deafnely and then she and

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<v Speaker 4>her friends were arrested. And then, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>like anyone reads you or your rights, and so they knew. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>they knew they could do whatever they liked. Human rights

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<v Speaker 4>as a concept didn't exist for many people. Mike was right.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine how frightening that must have been for her,

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<v Speaker 3>but also how scared her parents must have been.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, it's a terrifying prospect, both for the person arrested,

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<v Speaker 4>but even more terrifying if you were on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely claimed that she was forced to sign a pre

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<v Speaker 1>written confession for assaulting a police officer. When it reached court,

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<v Speaker 1>she was acquitted of all charges, and the magistrate presiding

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<v Speaker 1>criticized the police involved, calling for their conduct to be

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<v Speaker 1>condemned and severely censured.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the kind of experience that scarce you for life,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at that age, even if she did make it

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<v Speaker 3>out in one piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, when I imagined nineen year old, definitely, this I

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<v Speaker 1>think has to be a crossroads in her life. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people would have learned the lesson to keep their head

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<v Speaker 1>down from then on, but with definitely, it did the opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it wouldn't say radicalized her, but it also

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<v Speaker 4>brought home in a very personal way, just how fragile

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<v Speaker 4>you know fundamental freedoms are, How you know you need

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<v Speaker 4>to protect, you need to fight back every day. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't take anything for.

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<v Speaker 1>Granted, Malta being a small place. The same young arresting

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<v Speaker 1>officer went on to become a major multice politician, this

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<v Speaker 1>time quarter of a century later. Definitely was determined to

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<v Speaker 1>have her say.

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<v Speaker 2>October seventh, twenty ten. I stand by what I have

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<v Speaker 2>said for twenty six years. Angelou Farrugia forced me to

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<v Speaker 2>sign a false confession which he wrote himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Naturally, this is Daphne's version of what happened, and it

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<v Speaker 3>should also be noted that definnely lost a libel case

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<v Speaker 3>related to these claims, although an appeals court held that

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<v Speaker 3>she managed to prove some of the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>We should also note that it would have been hard

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<v Speaker 1>for Deafney to prove her case thirty years after the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Malta cannot have a prime minister who, in his days

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<v Speaker 2>as a police inspector, forced a nineteen year old girl

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<v Speaker 2>to sign a false confession which he himself had written,

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<v Speaker 2>telling her that if she did not do so, she

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<v Speaker 2>would be returned to the pitch black cell with feces

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<v Speaker 2>smeared walls and a metal bucket for a lavatory, where

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<v Speaker 2>she had been kept for the past twenty seven hours.

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<v Speaker 3>After young Daphney finishes school, she began also followed the

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<v Speaker 3>expected path for someone of her background, marriage, starting a family,

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<v Speaker 3>but also something more surprising. She becomes a journalist, Malta's

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<v Speaker 3>first female opinion columnist.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was surprising even for what was by then

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<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen nineties. I remember she started writing

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<v Speaker 1>around the time I started reading newspapers, I obviously didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize how unique she was, because to me, everything on

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper was new. But I became a fan early on.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just that Definnely was a female journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also that she wrote openly under her own name.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, most columnists preferred to stay anonymous.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt safer, but that wasn't Daphne's style.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I started out purely out of my own sense

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<v Speaker 5>of frustration with the newspaper's local newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely spoke about this time. This is a rare recorded

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Definitely from the nineteen ninety years before she

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<v Speaker 1>started her blog.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also noticed an absence of columns written by

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<v Speaker 5>people under their own name, you know, his photograph name,

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<v Speaker 5>as I read regularly in foreign newspapers. And that's what

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<v Speaker 5>this is very odd. And the reason Giffen was always

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<v Speaker 5>that such a column would be impossible in Mortar because

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<v Speaker 5>it's such a close, closely knit society, and people are

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<v Speaker 5>afraid to offend others are afraid of stepping on other

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<v Speaker 5>people's toes, and obviously, if you're going to write a

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<v Speaker 5>proper column, you're going to step on people's toes very often.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, on a small island, stepping on toes and

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<v Speaker 3>making enemies can be a risky business. You never know

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<v Speaker 3>quite who will hold a grudge, but in a small

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<v Speaker 3>place you do know that they will be able to

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<v Speaker 3>find you if they want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Daphney's writing was a hit. People started to buy the

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<v Speaker 1>paper purely to read what definitely had to say, to

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<v Speaker 1>watch her stepping on toes.

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<v Speaker 5>Previously, journalists had tended to be men. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 5>newspaper I started out with, The Sunday Times, had had

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<v Speaker 5>a policy of never employing staff reporters who were women.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a very absurd and antiquated policy, and the

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<v Speaker 5>test since of course bitter the dust. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 5>was totally absurd, but that accounted for a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>my effect at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She's being very modest here. The quality of her writing

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<v Speaker 1>and the urgency of it where what really made her

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<v Speaker 1>stand out.

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<v Speaker 3>But not surprisingly, the idea of a strongly opinionated female

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<v Speaker 3>columnist didn't go down well with everyone, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That became a very difficult time for Defne because she'd

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<v Speaker 4>get all these ominous messages which weren't sort of avert

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<v Speaker 4>but you get a sense that you know something creepy

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<v Speaker 4>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this myself as a writer on news and

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<v Speaker 1>politics in Malta. You can't prove where the hostile messages

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<v Speaker 1>come from or whether it had anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>any specific piece of reporting, but people know who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and on an island this small, if people want to

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<v Speaker 1>find you, they will find you. So there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why it was normal for a journalists to write anonymously

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<v Speaker 1>for their own well being.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know when you hear something on the room,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, on the grapevine, or someone says you'd better

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<v Speaker 4>be careful because you know x y Z is feeling angry.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the kind of thing that she was experiencing where

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<v Speaker 4>you'd get these sort of not so subtle hints, And there's.

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<v Speaker 3>A mother dafinitely did her best disguise of pressure she

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<v Speaker 3>was coming under.

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<v Speaker 4>After she was skilled, her son said they had to

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<v Speaker 4>revise a lot of what they experienced when they were children.

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<v Speaker 4>So when they were pulled out of school and taken

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<v Speaker 4>for an impromptu holiday to Gozo, which is a neighboring island,

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<v Speaker 4>they then realized that that was a time when definitely

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<v Speaker 4>possibly was feeling unsafe and thought, you know, getting out

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<v Speaker 4>of the house, getting out of their normal environment would

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<v Speaker 4>take them out of harm's way. For a while, I never.

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<v Speaker 6>Really thought of my mother as a woman journalist, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I taught of her as my mother and as this

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<v Speaker 6>incredible writer.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely had three boys. Matthew is the oldest, Paul the youngest.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Andrew, the middle son.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess what I always found striking was that she

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<v Speaker 6>was so different to my friend's parents, to my friend's

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<v Speaker 6>mother's you know, in Malta, in my parents' generation, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>twenty percent of women worked, maybe thirty percent max. And

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that she was the sort of famous journalist

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<v Speaker 6>was you know, it made her almost like an alien somehow.

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<v Speaker 6>And she was able to live these two lives very effectively,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, to be the Maltese mother who was sort

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<v Speaker 6>of very you know, like a typical Mediterranean mother who's

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<v Speaker 6>very sort of you know, attentive and proud of her

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<v Speaker 6>children and just you know, very warm, but then was

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<v Speaker 6>able to be this sort of like razor sharp journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>And Daphne's razor sharp journalism had real world consequences for

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<v Speaker 3>the family.

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<v Speaker 6>So I remember coming home from school and there was

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we had this dog. All our dogs were

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<v Speaker 6>mongrels at the time. We used to just adopt whatever

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<v Speaker 6>straight dogs would show up, but this one actually was different.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a colligue, really beautiful dog called Messalina.

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<v Speaker 3>And on this day when they get home, somethink is

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for them on the doorstep.

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<v Speaker 4>Its throat had been slashed, but rather than making a

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<v Speaker 4>fuss about it, definitely just walked inside and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it must have drunk eaten some poison from the garden

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<v Speaker 4>or something of the sort. So she played it down

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<v Speaker 4>a lot and dealt with it that way.

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<v Speaker 6>And obviously I believed her because I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe seven years old, But I remember thinking, Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, is that what snail poisoned us? To you?

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<v Speaker 6>How much poison do you need to kill a snail?

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, And then things moved beyond even warnings like that.

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<v Speaker 6>And then there was when our front door set on fire.

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<v Speaker 6>The explanation was that we left the candle out that night,

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<v Speaker 6>so so sort of semi plausible for a child, but

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<v Speaker 6>over time, you know, you realize, okay, that that obviously

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<v Speaker 6>was not true. The door was completely black and then

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<v Speaker 6>obviously as we grew older, we you know, our parents

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<v Speaker 6>stopped pretending.

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<v Speaker 3>The family decided they needed more protection, so they built

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<v Speaker 3>the first of several walls around the property. Sadly, that

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<v Speaker 3>was still no guarantee of safety.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was another ugly incident which came later on.

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<v Speaker 4>So they were asleep in their own beds and somebody

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<v Speaker 4>crawled across the fields at the back of the house,

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<v Speaker 4>piled rubber tires at the back of the house, filled

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<v Speaker 4>them with fuel and set them alight. And this was

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<v Speaker 4>in the early hours of the morning, so they had

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<v Speaker 4>obviously been watching the house and waiting for the lights

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<v Speaker 4>to go out, which was a signal everybody was actually

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<v Speaker 4>in bed.

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<v Speaker 6>And petrol obviously is explosive, so the idea was that

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<v Speaker 6>the petrol would would blast through the glass and the

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<v Speaker 6>fire would spread into the house. But luckily my younger

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<v Speaker 6>brother came home. So this was about three in the morning.

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<v Speaker 6>We were teenagers, were going out all the time. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a weekend, and Paul came home maybe ten or

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen minutes after the fire was started and saw the

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<v Speaker 6>smoke and woke up the family and they were able

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<v Speaker 6>to put it out, But otherwise it would have been Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it would have been completely I mean, my mother was

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<v Speaker 6>in no doubt that, yeah, it was an attempted murder.

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<v Speaker 3>There were other measures that could have been taken, but

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<v Speaker 3>somehow that would have felt like giving in.

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<v Speaker 6>I would often see these kind of anonymous houses in

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<v Speaker 6>Malta covered in security cameras and alarms and things like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But in comparison, my parents were on the sort of yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The philosophy was, we need to feel good in our home,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, our home. Our home shouldn't be a prison.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if someone wants to kill my mother, they're gonna,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a sort of off the shelf alarm isn't

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<v Speaker 6>going to stop them.

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<v Speaker 3>But for all this, Daphne's writing doesn't change. Nothing deters

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<v Speaker 3>her from writing difficult troops, whether biting gossip or hard

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<v Speaker 3>hitting stories about those with power and money.

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<v Speaker 1>And by this time many of Dephanie's regarding themes had

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<v Speaker 1>clearly emerged. One of them is what she sees as

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<v Speaker 1>more as deep cultural divisions, our culture war, what definitely

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<v Speaker 1>called the Maltas.

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<v Speaker 3>Daphnie is, Molta is fatally divided into two opposing camps,

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<v Speaker 3>a country cut in half by education, language, and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>On one side, there are the professional classes with a

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<v Speaker 1>preference for the English language, people who have the skills

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<v Speaker 1>and resources to maybe work or study in Britain or

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere in Europe. On people with an international outlook, people

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<v Speaker 1>who might have marched for the right of private schools

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<v Speaker 1>to stay open back in the seventies, people like Dafnie.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the other side of the barricades, there is

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<v Speaker 1>the other Malta, a more blue collar, working class culture,

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<v Speaker 1>people with less interest in the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Dafnie, they might be making a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money in today's world, and they might be buying fleshy,

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<v Speaker 1>designer cloaths and going on short trips to Sicily in

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<v Speaker 1>their boats, but they would be culturally hostile to Daphnie's Malta.

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<v Speaker 5>But start off it, I'd like to say that I

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<v Speaker 5>believe the greatest problem and moret is society is that

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<v Speaker 5>it's a clash of two cultures, and because it's such

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<v Speaker 5>a small population and the territory is so limited, those

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<v Speaker 5>cultures on head on confrontation.

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<v Speaker 1>The same interview from nineteen ninety eight, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't make any effort to hide her view that

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<v Speaker 1>her side of the culture war is superior.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have, on the one hand, you have people

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<v Speaker 5>who are subjected to I won't call it Western democratic culture,

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<v Speaker 5>but I suppose that's what it really is, through exposure

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<v Speaker 5>to foreign news media, particularly magazines, newspapers and so on.

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<v Speaker 5>So they're continuously reading and absorbing American, British, Italian, French

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<v Speaker 5>ideas and they get used to that way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can also understand why some people saw heretitudes

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of Malta the other Molta as s petronizing,

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<v Speaker 1>almost colonial.

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<v Speaker 5>Then on the other hand you have the other cultural block,

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<v Speaker 5>which Perhabs, which is raised in a culture of not

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<v Speaker 5>reading but listening to the radio, are watching the television.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, it's part of the conflict of cultures. Basic

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<v Speaker 5>Multis culture fundamentally is quite primitive and quite savage, and

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<v Speaker 5>with a total lack of concern for other people. All

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<v Speaker 5>that counts as the family. No absolutely no civic conscience whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 5>It's totally totally alien to Northern European culture. The nearest

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<v Speaker 5>comparison I can make is to backwater Sicilian culture. We

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<v Speaker 5>see the same problems.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the afternoon of Monday, sixteenth October twenty seventeen, the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the long multie summer, two of the hitmen

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<v Speaker 1>are back overlooking Daphnese house in Benea.

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<v Speaker 3>As before, we've taken evidence heard in the courtroom and

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<v Speaker 3>dramatized what happened, providing color in places without changing any

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<v Speaker 3>of the material facts or allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>After the plan to kill Daphanie with a sniper shot

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<v Speaker 1>was abandoned, the killers have come up with a plan B,

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<v Speaker 1>a new method of murder, and they know they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to work this time.

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<v Speaker 3>They're getting pressure from their handler to get the job finished,

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<v Speaker 3>so over the last few weeks they've been practicing and

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<v Speaker 3>rehearsing intensively, all the while finding off impatiently inquiries from management.

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<v Speaker 3>And on this day, everything finally seems to be coming together.

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<v Speaker 1>From a hideout across the shallow valley, Alfred Deban and

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent de Kov are watching Daphne's driveway through binoculars or

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<v Speaker 1>a telescope. They've already been here nearly eight hours since

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<v Speaker 1>before dawn, lying watching and waiting, waiting for the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when the compound door might open.

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<v Speaker 3>Alfred's brother, Chinese George, is a few miles away, also waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>He's on his own in a small boat that belongs

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<v Speaker 3>to him and his brother, waiting somewhere not far from

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<v Speaker 3>the letter harbor, close to the shore, close enough to

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<v Speaker 3>sue will be within mobile phone coverage. He will be

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<v Speaker 3>the trigger man, the one who will activate the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside. Completely unaware, Daphne is at her kitchen table finishing

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<v Speaker 1>a blog post about the Prime Minister's chief of staff,

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<v Speaker 1>Keach Cambri Husha calls a crook.

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<v Speaker 3>At two thirty five pm. She posts the article. It

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<v Speaker 3>will be the last thing she ever publishes.

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<v Speaker 1>A few minutes later, through the binoculars, Vincent Koff sees

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<v Speaker 1>a light come on above the outer gate to the

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<v Speaker 1>garden as sign that someone is coming out. First to

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred that this could be the moment they've been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred de Bean calls Chinese George on the boat and

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<v Speaker 1>tells him to get ready. The moment has come.

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<v Speaker 3>While Stephane gets in the car, the trap will be sprung.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, at the very last moment, Vincent the cough

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<v Speaker 1>and Alfred de Bean watched Stephanie hesitate, turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>re enter the house a false alarm.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one minute later she returns she's forgotten her checkbook.

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<v Speaker 3>This time, Jephaney does get in the car. She starts

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<v Speaker 3>Ignition and begins driving along the short dusty path to

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<v Speaker 3>the main road.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that moment, once the car is in motion,

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred de Bean calls his brother on the boat again

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<v Speaker 1>and tells him that everything is ready. The plan is

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<v Speaker 1>back on out at sea.

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese George acknowledges the message and uses a different phone

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<v Speaker 3>to send a specially coded text to a SIM card,

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<v Speaker 3>a SIM card attached to an explosive device underneath Daphne's

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<v Speaker 3>car seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Daphne's eldest son, Matthew, is in the family house when

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<v Speaker 1>he hears the bomb. Immediately he runs out in his

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<v Speaker 1>bare feet to find out what is going on. Outside,

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<v Speaker 1>he sees the burning car in a field by the

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<v Speaker 1>road and tries to save his mother, but it is hopeless.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieces of Daphne's body are strewn across the bomb site.

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<v Speaker 1>Then two cops in a passing patrol car get out,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them holding a pitifully small fire extinguisher. Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>screams at them to do something, but it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing they can do. A neighbor and a

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<v Speaker 1>passing cars gets out starts videoing the scene with his

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<v Speaker 1>mobile phone. Outrage, Matthew seeses his phone and smashes it

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<v Speaker 1>across the valley. Alfred de Bean and Vincent de Cough

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<v Speaker 1>are leaving the observation post and making their way as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible to a car parked close by, but

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred de Bean has blundered. They had a strict rule

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<v Speaker 1>on site to put every piece of letter, every cigarette

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<v Speaker 1>butt at the observation point in a bottle to be

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<v Speaker 1>taken away to avoid leaving any race. But perhaps in

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<v Speaker 1>the excitement or just in a moment of carelessness after

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<v Speaker 1>all the long hours waiting in the sun, Alfred de

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<v Speaker 1>Bean has let a cigarette butt fall.

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<v Speaker 3>The cigarette carries irrefusable DNA evidence of his presence at

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<v Speaker 3>the scene of the crime. The killers are making it

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<v Speaker 3>so very easy for the investigators, if that is the

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<v Speaker 3>authorities choose to investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>And out at sea in his fishing boat, Chinese George

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<v Speaker 1>has also made a fatal error. Earlier in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>he realized that one of his Berner phones was short

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<v Speaker 1>on credit. If he can't make or received calls, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole murder plot will fail.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's in a boat out at sea, he can't

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<v Speaker 3>get a top.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, so oh I was being smaspituality credit for a

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<v Speaker 4>telephone lip.

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<v Speaker 1>Up tamil litop up. That means can you top me up?

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<v Speaker 1>He calls friends, a couple of friends until someone agrees

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<v Speaker 1>to top up his burner phone account, and he makes

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<v Speaker 1>those calls on his personal legit phone.

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<v Speaker 3>But Chinese George doesn't seem too concerned. After he hears

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<v Speaker 3>that the car bomb has been successfully detonated, he's in

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<v Speaker 3>a relax, celebrate removed. He steers the boat backs through

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<v Speaker 3>the quayside, and he sends another TEX on his personal

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<v Speaker 3>phone to his Romanian girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Open a bottle of wine for me, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to let a wine breathe before you drink it.

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<v Speaker 3>No point rushing.

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<v Speaker 1>It just in time for the first sip. He reaches

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<v Speaker 1>the shore a job well.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, or so he thinks. That's next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Crooks Everywhere is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Topic Studios

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<v Speaker 1>and Vespucci. It's reported and hosted by me Manuel Delia

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<v Speaker 1>and John Sweeney. The singer producer is Leo Hornack. The

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<v Speaker 1>producer is Maddi Hickish. Krish Denesh Kumar is the assistant producer.

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<v Speaker 1>The story editors are Emma Ederill, Matt Willis and Philippa Geering.

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<v Speaker 1>The managing producers are Thomas Curry and Rachel Byrne. The

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Dafnie Karvana Galizia is played by Ciena Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>acting direction by Christopher Houghten, Maltese voices by Mikhail Basmajan

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<v Speaker 1>and Pierre Staffrach. The executive producers are Johnny Galvin and

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<v Speaker 1>Special thanks to Andrew Botchcardona, Alessandra di Crespo, Eddie Isles,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Krvana Galizia