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Speaker 1: I got fag Joe one time to smoke weed with me.
Speaker 1: I never smoked with you. Come on, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I never smoke with you. My tooth. You gotta stop
Speaker 1: a day like no, this wasn't normal. This wasn't normal.
Speaker 1: I had a pain for like three days, and I
Speaker 1: was going to all adopted and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: where I got this pain from. I still don't know
Speaker 1: where I got the pain from, but Ship was hurting
Speaker 1: so much he forced me to go to dinner with him.
Speaker 1: With the pain. I said, my nigga, I can't even
Speaker 1: eat this strich y'all sits and stakes. So he want
Speaker 1: to show walk he's rich. He's rich. There ship so
Speaker 1: we have in the entertained was flood like post drink chip,
Speaker 1: So this is post drink. Let me tell you you're rich,
Speaker 1: nigger right now. You're having that money. N how you
Speaker 1: got money? You care a lot of me. I can't
Speaker 1: nig his money. Let's figure. Let me tell you. So
Speaker 1: listening over here, he got a table full of ship.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I can't even eat right. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, if you take what the funk a
Speaker 1: lean pasket though it was very so He's like, I
Speaker 1: was just so much fraid like this to see your tooth.
Speaker 1: So I took it and he started jumping up and
Speaker 1: the down. Oh I never thought, you know what's gonna
Speaker 1: tell you? Sorry? Yeah, yeah, you know he was jumping down.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what's worse. And you know it's
Speaker 1: my brother. Listen, the king of setting you up. He's
Speaker 1: the kids funding me around. He doesn't missed the child
Speaker 1: he's funding me around the door. And it was his
Speaker 1: cousin's video. I didn't see that after the lost his
Speaker 1: cousin shooting the vide. I was so faid them nicking
Speaker 1: Monty holding me up like we can't have Bertie's what's
Speaker 1: worse than get holding you turn? Go ahead and say this,
Speaker 1: but you drink, say that this might be the headline, right,
Speaker 1: Mr Faber's responsible for slaughter house coming together. I didn't
Speaker 1: look at it like you're gonna throw this out there,
Speaker 1: like throwing out there if you understand. So let's I'm
Speaker 1: battling Royster five nine. So you're battling Joe. But no,
Speaker 1: Joe buddys didn't come right his brother and then Glass?
Speaker 1: What is this? What years that something happened with brother two?
Speaker 1: Okay maybe whenever, we don't quote me on that. It's
Speaker 1: not Google, it's not Google. Was Royce just rolling with
Speaker 1: eminem at the time and then split? They're not really
Speaker 1: see a battle, No, not not today because we're drinking together,
Speaker 1: all right, So listen, So I'm posted battle uh Joe
Speaker 1: and Royce and poster like front like when you got
Speaker 1: around front to building. I mean got to be confused
Speaker 1: with So we battling, we have s obs, we're battling.
Speaker 1: We do the whole little battle. I dissed everybody in
Speaker 1: the room, um because I was a fifty DP like
Speaker 1: fifty motherfucker's like you felm me, So I kind of
Speaker 1: I was comfortable. Um, you're there. You come up to
Speaker 1: me after this ship, you say, my nigga, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with you or whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you just did. Right there, my nigga, that ship was ill.
Speaker 1: Here's my number. I mean a little bit. This just
Speaker 1: happened in New York. In New York because all right,
Speaker 1: let me, I want you, I need you to finish.
Speaker 1: But as an artist, I looked at you and I
Speaker 1: seen the risk you took, Like I see the risk
Speaker 1: you took, and I wanted you to know that you
Speaker 1: were safe. Like these niggas are rappers. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: apologize to everybody you this, but I wanted I came
Speaker 1: up to you and I was like, you're fat. I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, because I felt like I knew you. Because,
Speaker 1: first of all, when it comes up the West Coast,
Speaker 1: Oakland is my number one market for sure. Right, So
Speaker 1: for some reason, I feel like left rackers in Oakland
Speaker 1: rights like I sw I feel like queens like Oakland.
Speaker 1: So mind you now, l A is our fucking number
Speaker 1: two markets with Drake Chance, right, But back then. So
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to stand that love. So I
Speaker 1: told him because he came. He came on, like he said,
Speaker 1: he came on and he just thrashing people. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, look it's the rapper ship you with it.
Speaker 1: But just so you know, like this is not like
Speaker 1: you good, like you could relax and and then Nigga says,
Speaker 1: call me. You don't call me, I'm gonna call you.
Speaker 1: You go back to the room, like yo, Nor was
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper, one of my favorite I was growing up.
Speaker 1: The reason why because nigg did a song, the l
Speaker 1: A l A song. I was like, oh, this thing
Speaker 1: is the hardest thing ever responded, right, was the hardest ever.
Speaker 1: I felt like he was the artist together. Right. So
Speaker 1: my phone rings at four o'clock. I'm at the room.
Speaker 1: It's four in the morning. You know what that sounds
Speaker 1: like me, snario, It's good, my nigga ya, I'm at
Speaker 1: the brom Yankee Stadium right now. Right, start thinking about
Speaker 1: Baseline Studio. It's been in the West Coast. Nigga. Quiet,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Quiet. Look at my cousin, I
Speaker 1: said it, Hey, seven, I'm thinking. I'm like, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I'm I'm calling alliances back home and calling me just
Speaker 1: like my niggas. We still trick with theseus I care about.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the ship, right. I look at my
Speaker 1: cousin away. I'm like cousins thinking, no, you're talking about
Speaker 1: coming to Yankee Stadium and it just because I'm from
Speaker 1: Queasy so so i'm it's different. Like he like, let's go.
Speaker 1: I say, my nigga way, because I got off New
Speaker 1: York ship right, so I knew all of that. I
Speaker 1: was like, my nigga, this niggers from Queens Yankee stadiums
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, my nigger the ship. Don't shut this
Speaker 1: we get he said, like a set up. I say,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna be suckers if we don't. Because he
Speaker 1: personally called us bro that's moping flints. Because I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, my nigga, we gotta go fucking make a
Speaker 1: short story shorter. We hop on in a cab. We
Speaker 1: get there. I see this fifty Puerto Rican nigga standing
Speaker 1: outside him. Literally it's probably like fourteen, but that looked
Speaker 1: like fifty. And that's myself, right. I look across them,
Speaker 1: like fifty niggas He's like, Yo, well you got go ahead.
Speaker 1: I hate the fence. I jumped the fence to rip
Speaker 1: a hole in my pants, and before ripped, Jesus jumped
Speaker 1: the nigga truth fences in the park bench, in the bleachers.
Speaker 1: Just nigga, give me a stand off, me said, Yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga, Now listen. I felt like this, I swear
Speaker 1: to God, I felt like I was talking to Frank
Speaker 1: White at this time. This is like New York Stories,
Speaker 1: King of New York Story, Helen niggas standing around him
Speaker 1: as him him died as all kind of other Niggas's
Speaker 1: crazy niggas, right, he say, either you're a stupid motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you're a real nigga. Personally, I wouldn't I wouldn't carry it.
Speaker 1: You have such a long career, Yes, I want to
Speaker 1: take it from the beginning, like, well, what inspired you
Speaker 1: to get just just to start spitting period? You know, honestly,
Speaker 1: it was something that I got into at you know,
Speaker 1: the younger, at a young age, because of an older
Speaker 1: cousin I looked up to, you know, I mean it
Speaker 1: was so it was that type of thing that got me.
Speaker 1: Yet it was it was something you know, my older
Speaker 1: cousin was doing. So, you know, I just did it
Speaker 1: really just to be like him. And he told me, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're too young. Was he making records? No, No,
Speaker 1: it's just just you know, just him and two of
Speaker 1: his boys around the way, you know, the best side.
Speaker 1: You know. It was a little rap group for three
Speaker 1: man rap group. And he told me I was too young,
Speaker 1: like now, you know, you know when you get older.
Speaker 1: So then from that point my mission became to be
Speaker 1: better than the other two dudes down with him. So
Speaker 1: I started off frightening battle rhymes. You feel me, and
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. Then when I felt I
Speaker 1: had it right, I went in battled the two dudes
Speaker 1: down with him, beat them much older than you, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: much older. I battled them and beat them and then
Speaker 1: ask him can I be down down? You know, I
Speaker 1: got notes and ship. Okay, so you battle them now
Speaker 1: you're just doing it on the block. He just you're
Speaker 1: just being as a hobby. Yeah, pretty much, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: So how is it that you get to to where
Speaker 1: you become Big Daddy? Is there is there is there
Speaker 1: a persona before Big Daddy? Knea, Did you have another
Speaker 1: name where you did you. That's all. But I'm sutain
Speaker 1: that you went through a couple of days, maybe well
Speaker 1: before Big Daddy Kane. It was just mc kane, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just s mc kanem king. All right. So now look
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to my good brother Fat Joe today. So
Speaker 1: Fat Joe calls me and I'm mad. Hi. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I said, I got Cane on today. So he said,
Speaker 1: buck Wise is super fast? Buckise? He said, he's mad.
Speaker 1: Did I asked you this question? Bud Wise is super fast?
Speaker 1: Biggie and Tupac actually came out the only time that
Speaker 1: people the footage of Biggie and Tupac famous record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually were Foreman Brooklyn, that were that one. You know,
Speaker 1: if Fat Joe told me that they were, that wasn't
Speaker 1: even they set they were coming out with Cane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was Joe was next up to run when they
Speaker 1: gave me to wrap it up, like you got five minutes.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't able to even bring Joe on. But
Speaker 1: Joe standing with the Mike Verniet, you know, sill me
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. It still was like man if
Speaker 1: I would have Condo say he's that day Nory, but
Speaker 1: he's still had five more minutes he a been on
Speaker 1: the real talk. You know what, man, let us know
Speaker 1: the first time you met jay Z, the first time
Speaker 1: I met jay Z. Um it was back and I
Speaker 1: want to say eighty eight maybe, Um there was you know,
Speaker 1: there was like in the early eighties, so with mid eighties,
Speaker 1: like you know, my name was popping in Brooklyn for
Speaker 1: battling people of course, but there was one dude whose
Speaker 1: name was bigger than mine. Um, this guy named Jazz. Yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: like he was more popping. And then to top it off,
Speaker 1: to make matters worse, um, due around the corner for
Speaker 1: me on Fresh Gordon that had a Gordy Groove record.
Speaker 1: Fresh Gordon did a mixtape with Jazz, and I look
Speaker 1: around the corner for him. So I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a mall cat when I'm right here.
Speaker 1: You from four Green or no no no, no no no.
Speaker 1: I'm from Louis two blocks from Rose of our projects
Speaker 1: on that side. Um, so I'm like, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the mass scat and so to do right
Speaker 1: around the corner. So now I'm really pissed. I'm like
Speaker 1: me and this Jazz dud go after battle we're gonna
Speaker 1: have the battle, so you'll have a white Sophia. None
Speaker 1: of that out at this time. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is like neither this is one of us had deals.
Speaker 1: Neither one of us had deals, and it just never happened.
Speaker 1: Like I tried to, you know, find the jazz we
Speaker 1: it never happened. Then here I am, but I do
Speaker 1: have records out, and I get a call um from
Speaker 1: the Shirt Kings and yeah, and they say, yo, we
Speaker 1: want you to do a mixtape at Gordion Crib with jazz.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, if it's a battle, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm making records now. But that's that ship Sill was
Speaker 1: eating me up, you know, so you're saying, you're saying
Speaker 1: back then battling was like more important to even getting
Speaker 1: on the record with a person like actually balance in
Speaker 1: the MC well, I mean, you know, the bag on
Speaker 1: the record person was was great too, But like I said,
Speaker 1: this was something personal, you know. I mean I love
Speaker 1: jazz now, a lot of respect for you know, but
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this was something personal there, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was like, yeah, we can do it if
Speaker 1: we baddle, okay. And then when when I get get
Speaker 1: on Gardian crib. You know he's like na, na, na,
Speaker 1: listen off. You know, Jazz ain't with I mind no more.
Speaker 1: So we just wanted to, you know, like do something.
Speaker 1: Maybe y'all do something together, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: where he can you really shine and whatnot? You know,
Speaker 1: you know, get the proper a new deal. So I
Speaker 1: was like, alright, cool, and then Jazz asked me, yo,
Speaker 1: can my man rhyme on it right? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care. This is so we did
Speaker 1: to join me Jazz and jay Z and then m
Speaker 1: afterwards do from the shirt king. He was like, yo, um,
Speaker 1: you think maybe you can take Jazz up to coach
Speaker 1: chilling and maybe trying to get him a deal you
Speaker 1: know something label. Yeah ya, boys continued, So I told
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, I mean to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I kind of like the skinny light skin
Speaker 1: nigger better, you know, talking about jay Z y Z
Speaker 1: and um. You know, from that point, you know, me
Speaker 1: and Jay got hooked up and like I was trying,
Speaker 1: you know, I tried my artist, you know, to get him,
Speaker 1: um um, you know, a deal with several different labels,
Speaker 1: you know, just things just didn't work out. But lucky
Speaker 1: do smart enough to you know, figure out the way
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Speaker 1: think when I went to the Clippers, I was probably
Speaker 1: the worst kind of system that I want. And you
Speaker 1: was under Sterling. Yeah, because let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I was trying
Speaker 1: to get an apartment in l A. My credit is horrible.
Speaker 1: Nobody approved me. The only building that approved me it
Speaker 1: was the Sterling building because you take cash, because you
Speaker 1: take I hate my manner and I'm like, yo, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see here. He's like you can't move to Donald
Speaker 1: Ses building. I don't like what he's like, that's like
Speaker 1: moving in the trunk. And I'm like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: did everything beside my fucking name into the fucking check
Speaker 1: and he's like, you cannot move there? And he called
Speaker 1: um Johnson a nigga? Like how do you call how
Speaker 1: did everybody could call nigga? I just feel like Magic
Speaker 1: get the past? Yeah, like you ain't supposed to go
Speaker 1: like he's like, he's not supposed to be a nigga?
Speaker 1: Like I went too far? How do you? How do
Speaker 1: you call Magic a nigga? Like when need? When did you,
Speaker 1: as a person who played for an NBA team, as
Speaker 1: a person who played and know the politics, when you
Speaker 1: heard that, were you shocked or what you like? This
Speaker 1: is normal. I wasn't shocked at up when I when
Speaker 1: I got there. What shocked me is when I got
Speaker 1: there and when I did my press conference. It was
Speaker 1: almost like the movie The Devil's Advocate. As soon as
Speaker 1: I come out the press conference, the head of the
Speaker 1: chief dude to like communications say, hey man, he may
Speaker 1: say something to you. You know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you're from here. He may say something to you
Speaker 1: that may be out of pocket or something. Press you're
Speaker 1: talking about when he was playing for the Clippers after
Speaker 1: announced after that game, the speech and whatnot, because I
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know what I mean. I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back to l A. I'm about to get
Speaker 1: it rocking. I'm gonna turn it around. You feel them
Speaker 1: saying like, no matter what, like I'm not thinking about
Speaker 1: who the owner is. I know a funk about who
Speaker 1: the owner is, and so they're warning you about that.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, he about to say he gonna say
Speaker 1: some crazy shot. I said, Man, he ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: no crazy. He ain't to me. But then, like every
Speaker 1: day you live in it, do you realize, like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this is like a dictatorship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And people say, like the man is racist? Just like that. Man, Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. You don't have no respect
Speaker 1: for nobody. So it's not it's it's like racism is
Speaker 1: just like racism is a short word to describe him.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. That's like that's like a
Speaker 1: copile word to to describe him. And like the way
Speaker 1: that the whole system was being red. So for me,
Speaker 1: it was just like no bullshit. After my first year,
Speaker 1: I went to Africa. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: like either I'm gonna do something crazy or I need
Speaker 1: to go somewhere where I feel like I need to
Speaker 1: appreciate everything that I have as a black man in America.
Speaker 1: And so I went to Africa, and I you know,
Speaker 1: went to Africa like three or four weeks and just
Speaker 1: was like I needed to see something now that you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I went to Tanzania, Rwanda, um man,
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of like low key like changed
Speaker 1: my life, like the yeah, the genocide and then like
Speaker 1: you see how you see what's going on in Liberia,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Yeah, I mean's you look, man, It's like
Speaker 1: when you look at the world, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And we look at ourselves here in the United States,
Speaker 1: and we all privileged. You feel them saying like and
Speaker 1: we don't know ship, you know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: don't know ship until we go outside the country and
Speaker 1: we see how people really live and like the ship
Speaker 1: that they got and the resources they use, and like
Speaker 1: how I appreciative they are for life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That. So that's what taught me about like
Speaker 1: they're just saint, no dude, no racists. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, which is that big? Like Donald Sterling?
Speaker 1: It was like he no, right, I'm bigger than him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so one, I'm letting
Speaker 1: everybody know this man, racist dog and you humboy you've been.
Speaker 1: I say ship to me. You may not say ship
Speaker 1: to me you been. I say this ship to me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here, I'm gonna hoop as much as
Speaker 1: I can, but I can't come to this arena knowing
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to win games, knowing that he gonna win.
Speaker 1: So I'm fucked. So I can't play. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is so what happened was when I
Speaker 1: believed in Jado, was when he battled d m X.
Speaker 1: This is so big for the drink chat. This is
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Speaker 1: your energy. Okay, So right now we're in a rough
Speaker 1: ride of the neighborhood right now, right this is a
Speaker 1: this is a whole bunch of rough rides. Right, We're
Speaker 1: not we're in the Bronze. We're not in the neighborhood. No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about right now, right now, right so now
Speaker 1: the battle I wanna we heard we had Dame described
Speaker 1: this battle. We had Ev said he wasn't dead. We
Speaker 1: had we had DMX actually battle. Now DMX says he
Speaker 1: didn't lose this battle. We had Earth recently who said
Speaker 1: we think X lost. But I want you to describe
Speaker 1: the scene. So what happens because d it's you and
Speaker 1: Dame cool with d And what happened was we was
Speaker 1: in um got yours, Jim and my man Steve Mac
Speaker 1: and Dat personal with the coach, all of us. You know,
Speaker 1: we used to always argue about whatever, anything all the time.
Speaker 1: So he had the Hall of Knights, who had Steve Mac.
Speaker 1: So Steve Mac knew d and why so he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's have a battle. Him and Dame got into it
Speaker 1: about music. He's like, yo, you do this wife, listen,
Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth. So they set up
Speaker 1: the battle and then we went right after to the
Speaker 1: Bronx to a pool room on it's like on a
Speaker 1: hundred or something. Now, close to Webster. It's like one
Speaker 1: seventy four or something like that. So it was the
Speaker 1: Hall of Knights against original flavor. But then they had roughness,
Speaker 1: and then they had another guard of rich was another
Speaker 1: dude from hallom and then he called d and why
Speaker 1: and then they brought d m X and then Dame
Speaker 1: or Ja. So that's that's how that that got set up. Describe,
Speaker 1: describe what happened. They walked in thousand guns but you
Speaker 1: don't notice it, right, I'm just saying you live that
Speaker 1: life every day, so you know they're going back and
Speaker 1: forth and everybody else in the Hall of Knights is
Speaker 1: is definitely problem rough riders artists if you if you
Speaker 1: know about all them, like Hall of Nights transformed into
Speaker 1: rough riders. But yeah, they said like a lot of
Speaker 1: like the l o X style came from the Hall
Speaker 1: of Knights, you know what I'm saying. And that was
Speaker 1: a club. Hall of Knights a gang that was a group.
Speaker 1: That was a gang. So it's in the pool hall.
Speaker 1: You said it in the pool So I don't remember,
Speaker 1: like you know, what happened led up to it, how
Speaker 1: they arrange who was going again? Too? But damon, I
Speaker 1: mean J went against DMX. They was going back and forth,
Speaker 1: and then the funny think Big l was the only
Speaker 1: one recording everything, So that recording that y'all see all
Speaker 1: came from big El. But why I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't incorporated nothing like that. Yo, don't tape us.
Speaker 1: So that's why the only footage is on Jake. So
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, we had Erv here and
Speaker 1: Erv said, no, first off, forget us having Earth. We
Speaker 1: had dm Max here and we asked DMX. We said, yo,
Speaker 1: who won the battle? DMX said we never he never
Speaker 1: lost the battle. Then I've seen the interview with Jay.
Speaker 1: Jay said he never lost the battle. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it was, we had just had Erv here and
Speaker 1: we asked herv and the Earth said, that's the only
Speaker 1: time I ever heard MX say I think the people
Speaker 1: thought I lost. He never admitted that he So, how
Speaker 1: did you feel? In your opinion? So that's the that's
Speaker 1: what I became a believer with J. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Steve my Man and
Speaker 1: Dames my Man, so I wasn't there favoring nobody. It
Speaker 1: was at that battle and I was like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: dude j is nice and he started talking about the
Speaker 1: streets right my money machine. And he wasn't speed rapping
Speaker 1: a little bit, but not like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but people reacting to people. A lot of people. X
Speaker 1: was going crazy. But I mean both of them. It
Speaker 1: was like one A and one B. But I gave
Speaker 1: you know me, I gave J then. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying if somebody said X, you wouldn't be mad. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it was. It was that close food table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: D for motherfucker brolfriders here. So D who won that battle? Yep,
Speaker 1: that battle? He really can't say nobody one because they
Speaker 1: both was good. So I gave it like like when
Speaker 1: you hear it on both sides, people like it was
Speaker 1: a tough battle. I mean everybody kind of giving it up.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody like yo, this was the clearness. And if
Speaker 1: anybody on that side say D M X one, you
Speaker 1: ain't mad. If anybody on this side saying J, it
Speaker 1: was that close like it was. It was tight, like
Speaker 1: it was a bottle where you had to give it
Speaker 1: up for both sides. And plus it was an experience
Speaker 1: for X as well as whole because they both had
Speaker 1: different styles and energy. So they learned going each other.
Speaker 1: So that's what made it the whole world this way
Speaker 1: X that way. He was like, oh, ship, he learned
Speaker 1: something from X. Hope I learned something from them. And
Speaker 1: they both had two unique styles and nobody really wanted
Speaker 1: was just it was like a drow. There's so much
Speaker 1: talent com QB had. I think it got a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the juice cup, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And insition school was Molley and Shan really right, yes,
Speaker 1: so I mean the inspiration that you know they came
Speaker 1: from that probably it just you know, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, but legacy just continued, you know. Craig
Speaker 1: g you know, trash, big on trash, always trash. When
Speaker 1: we made jokes about him, trash. We gotta speak on it. Recently,
Speaker 1: you know, our brother products and we want to say
Speaker 1: rest in peace. In fact, let's give a moment of side.
Speaker 1: Everybody just be quiet for a second, Rest in peace, prodigies.
Speaker 1: Recently he passed me. We understand that. And did you
Speaker 1: see the overwhelming amount of love that he received on Instagram? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish he would have got to see that when
Speaker 1: he was here, right, that was the only like negative
Speaker 1: part I had to say. I was like, I love
Speaker 1: that people show the love. But then again, as a
Speaker 1: person who knows him, I wish he could have been
Speaker 1: here to see that. But was that something like how
Speaker 1: you felt to annoying for sure, But he really always
Speaker 1: got love because we used to call them science and
Speaker 1: we're all the same age coming up man young, and
Speaker 1: everybody knew he always had that another level of mentality
Speaker 1: and his mind was always on another level, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And he got that when we to
Speaker 1: go do shows and stuff, we're going into the guards,
Speaker 1: they pull me to the side dropping knowledge and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, too much into the guard body
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But he would take some information
Speaker 1: from that and move on and then pick up books
Speaker 1: and move on from knowledge and share it. So I
Speaker 1: always see like the real recognized real. When it came
Speaker 1: to Prodigy, we do shows a lot of stuff. We
Speaker 1: was wound and so we just bump into a lot
Speaker 1: of drama. But we used to have a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes coming to show p love like yo, sothing, we
Speaker 1: get that this on the strutt for you. So he
Speaker 1: always had that respect. But of course definitely what he
Speaker 1: seen the loves that you know that he got because
Speaker 1: it was past like people that don't even wrap. It
Speaker 1: was like from like like just you know, remember just
Speaker 1: watching h the news. There was a random yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah because down down Oh yeah yeah Tony touch on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So um, then he made the whole Little News.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was the whole album. He gave
Speaker 1: a report that albums as talking about, you know, and
Speaker 1: it matched up like a deep album in the STA
Speaker 1: or there's something you gotta chill out. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: definitely a mom deep album in the status, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I just want to give it
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: So it fully recorders. It's something you gotta piece together
Speaker 1: half and half, you know, I gotta piece it together
Speaker 1: stuff that's already recorded and stuff like that, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's what people want to, you know, just
Speaker 1: one last hurrah. Yeah you know, you know, him him
Speaker 1: out stuff like that. So that's definitely in the mix.
Speaker 1: That's what's up man. You know. Um again, my my
Speaker 1: cadulce is to to everybody because we all took it odd.
Speaker 1: I thought you ain't never make the coke on also
Speaker 1: officially drink. We're still negotiating. That went somewhere bad. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's like the time gotta be right, you know. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that I gave him my word like glad it did
Speaker 1: something with that. We came up with it together. Organic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking. My cake ahead. How did that
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Day parade? And Day parade? And I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess what a lot of people don't know what
Speaker 1: doesn't really get you know, publicizes how close New York
Speaker 1: rap artists are, Like we don't really like have beef,
Speaker 1: like fifty beef with some cash l has some beef.
Speaker 1: The rest of us we didn't really don't really have
Speaker 1: beef with each other, like from New York. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we all grew up together, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And so us hanging out is
Speaker 1: nothing but us just like hanging out like regular people.
Speaker 1: And um, we was at the Puerto Rican Day Parade
Speaker 1: and we're sitting the crib chilling doing what we do.
Speaker 1: You know, he has a lot of incredible ideas and
Speaker 1: you know it just started off from there. He helped
Speaker 1: to kick off the rock and you know, Julia Blessing
Speaker 1: my brother look forward to get money with him in
Speaker 1: the future. I'm talking about, man, Yeah, that's I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Here's your top three mc S. That was a tough
Speaker 1: one off top three. Yeah, Biggie nas jay Zo, I
Speaker 1: gotta say the same thing Z in no particular order.
Speaker 1: How are y'all as New York artists? How are y'all
Speaker 1: adapting to the situation of trap music and being on
Speaker 1: the kick versus the snare. I just want to have
Speaker 1: another shot to that before y'all drink, because I want
Speaker 1: to just make sure everybody got the ship sufficiently. What
Speaker 1: s what shot? What a shot? Let's do. But I
Speaker 1: just want to let you know, y'all drink, drink where
Speaker 1: everything goes, you know when we slur our words and ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have fun because I came from here to a
Speaker 1: little happy birthday already. Know you got I'm missing a shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna skip it. Yeah, that's not what I
Speaker 1: do over here. Damn. Yeah, I got to talk about
Speaker 1: listen man once again. Yeahs being you know, having fun,
Speaker 1: drink champs most TV listen. Nobody asked and the crew no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're no, no, No, We've gotta saying we just so Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you needed that one, huh. I say, the
Speaker 1: kick versus the snare. We come from the snare. That's
Speaker 1: that's embedded. That's something we can do effortlessly. But since
Speaker 1: they're doing the other thing, I say, instead of negating it,
Speaker 1: you embrace it, and you getting on that joint and
Speaker 1: kill it, you know what I mean, instead of hating it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your situation and you maximize opportunity even though it might
Speaker 1: not be a cup of tea, and just you know,
Speaker 1: switch your style to what else? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you can, If you do that, you're that guy.
Speaker 1: You can switch up your styles. You can go south.
Speaker 1: You feel like you you well dumb your ship down. No,
Speaker 1: not dumb down. You still got to be never you
Speaker 1: do you on that trapp beat and obliviate that world?
Speaker 1: Do you? That's a very important word. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about New York rat, you know, take it there,
Speaker 1: New York crap. We have to do us. Do y'all
Speaker 1: feel like we as a community of doing us? Are
Speaker 1: we trying to survive and catch onto a wave? Or
Speaker 1: do you feel like New York is New York? Man?
Speaker 1: I can't even shook water it? Gay's New York, New York.
Speaker 1: A percentage is trying to catch the wave, and then
Speaker 1: there's still a percentage that's doing or changed the way
Speaker 1: you feel like New does the way you feel like
Speaker 1: New York, you know what I mean. So you can't
Speaker 1: you can't go with the flow. You gotta be the floats.
Speaker 1: You gotta be with them. I love that. I think
Speaker 1: it's important for people to hear that because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, to be honest, you don't get played in
Speaker 1: the southern cities because they feel like there's some tension
Speaker 1: that's really not there. They feel there's some lack of
Speaker 1: respect that's not really you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, I wanted to just know
Speaker 1: you'all opinion on it, and I would have to agree
Speaker 1: with you. Looking good is we got Cardi B out there.
Speaker 1: Cardi B is kicking pure ass. When you speak to
Speaker 1: Cardi B, hustling is so New York you don't even
Speaker 1: have to say where she's from, Like like, man, I
Speaker 1: know where you're from. I don't mean to call up,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Like you already know,
Speaker 1: and she's from Uptown, so it's like, k yeah, she
Speaker 1: breaking New York like, and she's out there kicking ass like,
Speaker 1: so did you guys? You know, to to reiterate his question,
Speaker 1: but in a different way, Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: always keep saying it's New York back. I never liked
Speaker 1: saying I never liked trying to like bring New York
Speaker 1: and I always fun like even when people was trying
Speaker 1: to do those records new York back. You don't gotta
Speaker 1: say new York back. You gotta make a hit record.
Speaker 1: And that's what puts New York. When dudes like, did
Speaker 1: he still breathing in yourself and myself and yourself? That question?
Speaker 1: Shan's already answered and didn't go nowhere. We don't. You
Speaker 1: don't gotta, you know what I mean, You start putting yourself,
Speaker 1: You start slanting from what you bring to the culture.
Speaker 1: When you add to that, No, it's not back because
Speaker 1: it didn't go nowhere, because you look in at the culture,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's how you gotta carry
Speaker 1: to everybody feel like that. I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: to be in a success circle and whatever its successful,
Speaker 1: you know, it's different levels of success, but whatever successful,
Speaker 1: I want to be in that. And do you feel
Speaker 1: like New York supports New York enough, like like the
Speaker 1: most most of it on the low. You don't do
Speaker 1: it on the broad We don't, dudes. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people that portray like they have a problem
Speaker 1: with each other or there in their cribs and then
Speaker 1: their own personal zones playing the ship out of the
Speaker 1: person's catalog or music or you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: they enjoy the other person's success. They don't. They don't
Speaker 1: do it as much as the self. That's how the
Speaker 1: self splid in. You're saying that you were still playing
Speaker 1: fifty while y'all was going at it. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Yeah, I'm not Yeah, get Richard trying the classic
Speaker 1: anybody with ears? That wasn't a classic while y'all was battling.
Speaker 1: It's always a classic. And to it, I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm asking. I'm a realisten and I deal
Speaker 1: with the situation on the table, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: just because beautiful something was, you know, it was a discrepancy.
Speaker 1: That don't take away from that body of work, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's that's still a classic no
Speaker 1: matter what's going on. So now when you hear like
Speaker 1: these stories are these super producers and they're crazy ideas
Speaker 1: and like how they they put it together. You guys
Speaker 1: both work with puff. He's standing right here like like
Speaker 1: what was it described? What like being in the studio
Speaker 1: with him, because all he's been on before all of us,
Speaker 1: we all look up to him. We all showed him up.
Speaker 1: Damn bay cap, I just see my nigga, bore my nigga.
Speaker 1: So listen, that for me is does everything like he
Speaker 1: He's the first person that gave us an opportunity that
Speaker 1: I feel like we should make news that goddamn opportunity.
Speaker 1: You're one of the most goldenest things. You know what,
Speaker 1: don't even recognize It's like giving you an opportunity. It's
Speaker 1: like coming out of the draft. And we was able
Speaker 1: to get drafted to the Chicago Bulls when Jordan's was
Speaker 1: the hottest see it, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: was that's a blessing from the Lord itself and then
Speaker 1: him just showing us. Let me backtrack a little bit,
Speaker 1: not only him, we was able to be in the
Speaker 1: presence of Notory. It's br g, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that definitely makes it that he made the stars.
Speaker 1: He changed our lives, you'd be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: put my son through college by my mom's house, learn
Speaker 1: how to perform, do things of that nature. This chat.
Speaker 1: You ever think that, like, you know how your guys
Speaker 1: had the game right, Like I remember it was like
Speaker 1: woo did it was mad? Did I believe? It was
Speaker 1: Ray and Ghost and then Jan just just dropping albums
Speaker 1: like where you beat the game? Could ever go? They
Speaker 1: go back to that with a matter philiate's but love
Speaker 1: that you brought that up because the fact that because
Speaker 1: y'all have been to that. Yeah, because brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: you hear it's always saying to masterp and they always
Speaker 1: get it. The baby get that part. But it's funny
Speaker 1: how people say, you know, they come in and it's
Speaker 1: cliche to say we changed the game. We changed the game,
Speaker 1: and then if you ask him how, it's like a
Speaker 1: superficial ship like when we did this, we did. We
Speaker 1: actually did change the game because we came in as
Speaker 1: a group with options to sign the sexual art and
Speaker 1: ship contract that was never heard of. And when you
Speaker 1: talk about ship like that, you can't take that for
Speaker 1: granted because you have album i mean labels working with
Speaker 1: each other that would otherwise were trying to cut each
Speaker 1: other's throats. That's very Internet worked with each other so
Speaker 1: as anchor to one entity and can't do nothing with that, right,
Speaker 1: But let me ask you something, So is that what
Speaker 1: y'all came in with the game? At first? Yall came
Speaker 1: in and said, Yo, look we sell the lu Take clan.
Speaker 1: But it was just it was just sound. It was actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you exactly, y'all. It happened. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of talent to be holding in one spot
Speaker 1: like that. You knew he said that you got you
Speaker 1: got dirty. It was too much. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like accidental genius ship because it was more or less
Speaker 1: like it wasn't gonna be enough money for the whole
Speaker 1: It's like, we're not gonna let you sign the whole
Speaker 1: group for that amount, but we'll let you have maybe
Speaker 1: one or two. Maybe it's a wondering others that in
Speaker 1: the third so they became a put you what we're
Speaker 1: gonna pay and who we're gonna do this. I wasn't
Speaker 1: picked by that jam. That jam wanted old Dirty. But
Speaker 1: let's already signed with the Election Electra, already with Electro
Speaker 1: and he had fucked his money up already too. Remember
Speaker 1: that car, Remember that I didn't call you he brought
Speaker 1: him when no one no LEXI that it was black.
Speaker 1: It was a burgundy car. And I remember because he
Speaker 1: bought a system system course more than the fucking car
Speaker 1: that type sho. Remember you battle Nick Exotics one night
Speaker 1: outside the club Nick Exotic ship, niggas you know, it
Speaker 1: was just a battle and were clearly lost and Niggas
Speaker 1: Busch just windows out his call by the time he
Speaker 1: got back to his cars windows. But any fucking way, nigga,
Speaker 1: it came. It came to a point where all right, well,
Speaker 1: who who can I have? Russell? Who can I have
Speaker 1: at that jam and ship? And they kind of threw
Speaker 1: me at it? Okay, I kind of did. And Tracy
Speaker 1: Way Polls. It was really Tracy Waite's who said, we
Speaker 1: didn't get anybody with Russell. They don't be getting anybody.
Speaker 1: I want this, niggah definitely, And that's how I got
Speaker 1: in the do it wasn't up we want that forth
Speaker 1: top type thing. No, it would have took anybody, I say, many, Yeah,
Speaker 1: No it wasn't. Yeah, yeah it was, and we had yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was, yeah, it was. It was. I could
Speaker 1: beat from the game signed this as a Google say
Speaker 1: you want to take an option on one. Y'all gave
Speaker 1: us an option to sign the soul artist and that
Speaker 1: said we want such and such artist from the group.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that you actual peak to rock
Speaker 1: that part. But the way the whole ship worked out,
Speaker 1: it was weird because my houm actually got finished before
Speaker 1: dirties and because the simple fact and that a lot
Speaker 1: of uh ship in my way because um, there was
Speaker 1: a flood, most of the music got boss, so I
Speaker 1: had to re record a lot of ship. He had
Speaker 1: to redo a lot of beats. And when we were
Speaker 1: on the road, we would wake up that morning, you
Speaker 1: know he was on it was on the West coast.
Speaker 1: We would get up that morning and go do radio.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You go from radio and
Speaker 1: you go do some type of record in store type
Speaker 1: of ship uh where you go to the district. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: so old day fucking process. Then you're gonna do the
Speaker 1: show that night. After the show, y'all two was going
Speaker 1: back to your rooms. Obviously in the fucking studio recording,
Speaker 1: there's some nasty ships. I'm talking about stocking on chocolate,
Speaker 1: but anger Papa Stopper stopping. That's Ship Crops and Ship
Speaker 1: Real Ship. What's your favorite tech album you ever worked on?
Speaker 1: The favorite? I have cuts? Okay, I don't have the
Speaker 1: albums like cuts. So he cuts is like, you know,
Speaker 1: bring right there. You know what I'm saying, Like it's
Speaker 1: yours and yeah, certain certain sex like like half the albums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I remember it was in Hawaii and he was
Speaker 1: singing love boat, yeah, love bo something like he was
Speaker 1: just he was just sitting the fly sit you know.
Speaker 1: It was all Hawaiian albums, all down in the white
Speaker 1: happening that white. Let's let's go to the white. We
Speaker 1: all had school first day because we just got our
Speaker 1: American is first car flat and talk about it. Guy,
Speaker 1: So this is fucking the white first day. Everybody's got schools.
Speaker 1: True day. I want the one up and maybe so
Speaker 1: I go back and get the school that you gotta
Speaker 1: actually wear gobbose for that, really get up. But people
Speaker 1: want that we're taking a trip to where you go
Speaker 1: jet ski and that instead of taking the vehicles we
Speaker 1: wrote on the jet on the the bikes. The next
Speaker 1: I say, the next two days, I went and shot.
Speaker 1: I went shopping. That first day, I bought a little
Speaker 1: something here and then like a pair of Gucci shoes
Speaker 1: and ship like that, because you know out there everything
Speaker 1: is Louis Gucci Friday, the stores, whole stores. By the
Speaker 1: third day, don't want yell at we was in those
Speaker 1: wacky king you know he's in Kauai. Every water white
Speaker 1: and um So by the third day, um, I go
Speaker 1: use my car. Ship is to climb. Third day, I
Speaker 1: get back to the hotel. We're going out there night dudes,
Speaker 1: got three ship miss me right here because the back
Speaker 1: down already we're gonna come again. So yeah, it was.
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