WEBVTT - Ep98: Civilian Sluts Feat Kristen Sollee

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to her Decisions. I am super excited for today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Wheezy, a booty bandit and uh I

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<v Speaker 1>shot my shot for the guests that we have. I

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<v Speaker 1>took a very thought e photo with her book between

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<v Speaker 1>my legs in Mexico. Mainly I was like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading this at yellow my bag in the suits yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, we have a guest in and she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this book that I'm in love with. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just want to read the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>book cause I was like, how do I find this bit?

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the end of it it says she

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<v Speaker 1>curates the annual legacy of the Witch Charity Festival in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, and I was like, oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>I googled your name and then I saw some professional

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<v Speaker 1>email and I was like, man, let me do the

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<v Speaker 1>Graham and I'm so got it right. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar and I was like, what the I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I love people take amazing photos, but that was a

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<v Speaker 1>amazing photo and like, as I drank. Also, I got

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<v Speaker 1>so many followers you know that happened. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy sh it, thank you and totally heard of your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and I'm actually like, this is bad to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't listen to podcasts a lot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to like specific episodes and I've listened because Vice

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<v Speaker 1>after they covered you, I was like, yeah, introduce yourself please,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, my name is Kristin sole a ak Kristen

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<v Speaker 1>Corvette on the internet just because I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a trashy car and definitely like the trash car.

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Corvette sounds super like fu. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a trashy car, but it's not like a fancy car,

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<v Speaker 1>right right right, I can afford it. I don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a fucking corvette yet, So that's like on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>I googled your book like to like get some info

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<v Speaker 1>on it, like before I was doing this, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you're all over the internet, like you're top ten, this

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<v Speaker 1>top ten thatt that's humble. So they can't afford modest,

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford like you know, it doesn't always translate to dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Feature what's set up? Still grateful, Still grateful, waiting on

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<v Speaker 1>the Corevett listen. I'm really excited for people to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up this book. So I want to tell you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit but how I found it? Um. I shop

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<v Speaker 1>at a bookstore called Blue Stockings, activist bookstore on the

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<v Speaker 1>Lower East Side, and I always passed by it on

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<v Speaker 1>my walk home and your cover made me like, oh ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even read the back of the book, but

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<v Speaker 1>like that was good. It says her book is called Witches,

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<v Speaker 1>Sluts and Feminists. I really love this book. Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like books with like I don't know, just

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<v Speaker 1>too much like real stuff like I like that give

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<v Speaker 1>me Like I was like Zane, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>fictional like a good like ghetto Rodico type of book,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But this was just a

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<v Speaker 1>book that really resonated with me. And I mean Courter Million,

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<v Speaker 1>which is dying like all that, Like, yeah, just tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit, like why do you write this

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<v Speaker 1>book and what is it? Yeah? Um, So I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been interested in X and H alternative ways of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about sex and non normative sex, prescriptions against sex, the

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<v Speaker 1>stigma against sexuality, especially like female sexuality, um, any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of non normative sexuality according to like white patriarchal whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's always been an interest. I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated with the occult. My mom's a witch, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never really connected the two until I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like six seven years ago. I just really I started

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<v Speaker 1>this site called Sluttest, and that's your website. Yeah wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh no, I was about to get into your mama

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<v Speaker 1>being a wig. Okay, I just started. I have lots

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<v Speaker 1>of wich questions because I was thinking it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be scarier than I thought until you broke which down. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like for real, I'm not here for the You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wrote this book so both types of people can

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<v Speaker 1>relate to it, and I feel like I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. You think you are maybe not in sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is a way to look at it if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't believe in any of that ship. My dad's

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<v Speaker 1>a hardcore atheist, my mom's which, so they did not

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<v Speaker 1>stay married along. But so I feel like I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good position sort of can I can put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in both places as I sort of run on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the whatever belief systems. I'm still like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely an agnostic in a lot of ways too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also which whatever. So because of that, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was in a unique position to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the way women in particular have been demonized throughout history,

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<v Speaker 1>often because of sexuality or men not understanding women's sexuality

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<v Speaker 1>or its kind of wanting to own it and possess

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<v Speaker 1>it and treat them like bodies to be used and discarded.

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<v Speaker 1>And oftentimes the witch was the archetype thrust upon these women,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they are super a Christian or atheists or just

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<v Speaker 1>like didn't go to church or whatever, so based on

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<v Speaker 1>their sexuality. I read something in your book that said

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<v Speaker 1>men were able to basically sentence a woman to her

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<v Speaker 1>death by saying she looked at them and they had

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<v Speaker 1>sex with her, and so she must be a witch.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically seduction absolutely, yeah, And then the opposite was true too.

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<v Speaker 1>If a woman didn't, you know, have sex with the

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<v Speaker 1>man she was supposed to, or maybe marry a man

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<v Speaker 1>she was supposed to, that could also be witchcraft. If

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<v Speaker 1>she's sharing information about reproduction or fertility, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that's definitely that you might not know.

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<v Speaker 1>Genital Yes, that was from Charmed, and I only know

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<v Speaker 1>the succubus was the man eater. That's a female sexual demon.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I read something where you said a quarter millie

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<v Speaker 1>was it more than a quarter a million women died

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<v Speaker 1>for being quote unquote witches. No, no no, no, no, just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So Actually the numbers are really sketchy

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of those incomplete records, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't always write down when they would murder someone.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's actually there were I'm feminist in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>I say there that said that many there were like

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<v Speaker 1>over millions of women. But now numbers point to according

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<v Speaker 1>to like sort of even handed social scientists, maybe like two,

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<v Speaker 1>um fifty to two hundred thousand. But I still think

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<v Speaker 1>the point is that this demonization happened, and it still

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<v Speaker 1>happens in plenty countries to women died for being host

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much a lot into being hosed. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>some of them were just like wrong place, wrong time,

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<v Speaker 1>and people got caught up in the fervor when I

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<v Speaker 1>met the bread the birthmark thing. We'll get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that way, so, um, I wanted to get into

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<v Speaker 1>some vanilla ships. So, Kristen, it's our segment where we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about uh an article where we it's sex in

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<v Speaker 1>the news in this article, I really, why do we

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<v Speaker 1>be breaking down vanilla ships so difficult? It is? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just sex in the news, y'all. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be more articulate because it's sex in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like a news article about so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Variety dot com and the headline is Terry Gillum says

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<v Speaker 1>me too movement has transformed into mob rule. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>world of victims. I think people did very well out

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting with Harvey, and others didn't. The ones who

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<v Speaker 1>did knew what they were doing. These are adults were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here, adults with ambition. He claimed that these

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<v Speaker 1>women didn't actually suffer, but further their career their careers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he knew women who walked out of meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with the mogul before getting sexually abused quote unquote. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel sorry for someone like Matt Damon, who's a decent

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<v Speaker 1>human being. He came out and said not all men

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<v Speaker 1>are rapists, and then he got beaten to death, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's crazy. Despite describing the Me Too movement

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<v Speaker 1>as simplistic and silly, he said that Weinstein was a

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<v Speaker 1>monster and warned that there were people still in the

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<v Speaker 1>industry like him. I don't think Hollywood will change power

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<v Speaker 1>ticks advantage. It always doesn't always have this who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that A guy is Terry Gillman. It sounds like Future

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<v Speaker 1>because Future actually just came over. Yeah, so um, he

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<v Speaker 1>actually just came out when everyone was talking about the R.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly documentary. He came out and was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>y'all given it too much attention. Excuse me, says the

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<v Speaker 1>man who's sitting here impregnating all these women sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>showing that he's brom I'm ready to cancel Future. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we don't like the cancel culture, but he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those that has showed that he doesn't really care

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<v Speaker 1>about where women stands. He verbally abused, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>to shut it. He shouldn't said a goddamn thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading that, I'm like Future rights like we're giving

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<v Speaker 1>too much know how a mom thing. But I really

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<v Speaker 1>was interested in your opinion in have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>or how do you feel reading that? Has someone ever

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<v Speaker 1>said you're pushing feminist culture too much? And or feminist

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<v Speaker 1>feminist culture is toxic? What does that mean when people

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<v Speaker 1>say that we're toxic feminists? I mean that's also a

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<v Speaker 1>popular buzzword, toxic masculinity, toxic femininity, whatever you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Too much of anything, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing, except when you're talking about equal rights for

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<v Speaker 1>all humans. I don't know how you can do too

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<v Speaker 1>much of that? Ums right, So how do we have you?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had some pushback on your book being too feminist? Oh? Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some fun like trolley right wing articles like liberals

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<v Speaker 1>and feminists are all witches now, you know, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really them being upset about? You know, people just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this lineage of persecution that just continues, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as it happens today in all different

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<v Speaker 1>ways that the like dominant people with the most privileged

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<v Speaker 1>blame the most oppressed people for all their problems. That

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<v Speaker 1>happens obviously with every segment of society, whether it's immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>or people of color, or like women with the Me

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<v Speaker 1>too movement. Right, So it's just talking about things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the past that are still still happening, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening or it's happening the same way but a

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<v Speaker 1>different way in the same sense. So even though maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we're not dealing with segregation or slavery anymore, you can

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<v Speaker 1>still sit here and kind of draw a line to

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<v Speaker 1>the pay um, wage gap, or you know, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>having equal opportunity the way that you're claiming we're equal

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity employers, but yet you're still sitting here not allowing

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<v Speaker 1>certain people are demographics to get those jobs. So I

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<v Speaker 1>love that you're doing that. All you're doing is drawing

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<v Speaker 1>a line from maybe centuries ago, hundreds of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read the book. I probably will read the

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<v Speaker 1>book now because I'm not gonna lie like, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a girl again? I'll be talking about spills and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a million or ties. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you know her, and one of our most listen to

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<v Speaker 1>episodes a lot of people you know, and she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>the good root, high and like and she's dope. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually hit her up recently. I watched bird Box. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it? And I was like, yeah, I really

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<v Speaker 1>need your help, Like I didn't know how demonic this

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<v Speaker 1>movie would be. I can't sleep, And she gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a chance and basically told me to if I ever

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way, just say hey, like, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>of the light, I want you to leave. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>quote chant prayer. We always assume to be different. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we associate prayer and I do with religion, So like

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<v Speaker 1>just saying something to make yourself feel good, it really

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<v Speaker 1>helps me. Time you feel bad, I got some good

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<v Speaker 1>happy songs. Thing. It is all different. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have for a movie, girl, Every time I watched

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred, I feel like I could beat anybody. Three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred is my movie I go to when I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I gotta watch comedies. After I wanted only to

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<v Speaker 1>read that because I really get annoyed with how the

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<v Speaker 1>me too movement is described as this culture of like

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<v Speaker 1>people tagging on and also interesting UM a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and we've had her on. Leah McSweeney has

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of controversial UM YouTube and blogs. She's

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<v Speaker 1>put up for saying that the me too movement can

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<v Speaker 1>be toxic because she feels like real kind of rapes

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<v Speaker 1>are violent, right or there are women that are being violated,

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<v Speaker 1>and she feels like certain women are using it as

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't want to quote her wrong, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's a little too much and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>else don't like that. But she also said that she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't believe in a rape culture, so even like having

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<v Speaker 1>that idea of a rape culture and even just the

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue going through now, Um, a lot of people listen

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<v Speaker 1>to um, the Joe Budden Show, and even men now questioning, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I talk to a woman now since everything

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<v Speaker 1>is me too? And now I feel like if I

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<v Speaker 1>just holler at you now, I sexually assaulted you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now there's men that are blurring those lines where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, y'all know what the funk we're talking about? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come then any reasonable person knows, like what consent looks

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<v Speaker 1>like and what appropriate behavior looks like. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in this like new territory where everything is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taken to the extreme or not listen to it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like either or you know, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>found you have to go far to go back, to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the middle, to sort of even out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your understandings about all that. I hate questions about, but

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<v Speaker 1>I hate questions or men are like, well how do

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<v Speaker 1>I know? And it's like, yeah, right, you don't, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go ahead. So every show we have

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<v Speaker 1>a kick of the week, Um, this is another one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go ahead and warn y'all. Since Mad People

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing up with the porn categories episode. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is rather nasty. Um, you picked felching and I was disgusted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you do it, and she said it. She

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<v Speaker 1>described it so disgustingly, I said. I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I read the words out of my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I described, maybe you read really good at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I normally don't like when you breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>but she read it. I'm good at reading in my

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<v Speaker 1>head and just not out of my mouth. So this

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<v Speaker 1>um so the kink of the week for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>guys is ovi posit tour, a kink that involves laying

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<v Speaker 1>eggs into someone, usually involving alien eggs, bugs, tentacles, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>and can be seen occasionally in Henti. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>large amount of art involving It's on tumbler and it's

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<v Speaker 1>commonly associated with the inflation thing. Um kink another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I brought up. I was trying to find that

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<v Speaker 1>because the girl told me she watches that. So inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how my phone just goes to different links. So.

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<v Speaker 1>According to urban dictionary dot com, urban gation, inflation is

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<v Speaker 1>one um a sexual practice in which the practictition er

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<v Speaker 1>inflates his or her stomach by inserting air or fluid

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<v Speaker 1>into his or her rctum. Um too. It's a fetish

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<v Speaker 1>involving inflation of all parts of the body. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>think Violet in the Charlie Charlie and the chocolate factory,

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<v Speaker 1>usually the stomach. This fetish tends to be related to furries,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's often portrayed in an outwardly non sexual concept.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through inflation right now, so yeah, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>nigga might like a little bloated so um. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the articles that I actually pulled up from vice dot

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<v Speaker 1>com again shout out Vice. It says that the emerging

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<v Speaker 1>fetish of laying alien eggs inside yourself. Um, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>actually these toys that you can get. Um at the

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<v Speaker 1>sex shot. I've been wearing eggs for years. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought about it. Bro. So they look like alien penises

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<v Speaker 1>and they shoot out eggs, and you could shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>eggs into yourself if you're into this kink. But like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um and so yeah, they actually look really weird. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if y'all can see crazy. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's asking So this article asking is asking how people

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<v Speaker 1>got into it. Um. This is also asking where the

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<v Speaker 1>sexual the sexual gratification comes from it. Um it says,

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<v Speaker 1>let's face it, there are three things that will always

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<v Speaker 1>sell food, death, and sex. I tried food service and decided,

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<v Speaker 1>after managing three restaurants and owning that one day, um,

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<v Speaker 1>day in and day out, that it didn't much look

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<v Speaker 1>like much was going to change. Death didn't really interest me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted something more fun, something that breaks the

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<v Speaker 1>monotony of people's days and makes them spit out their

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<v Speaker 1>coffee when they tell you that they like to do so. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it would be maybe something just the shock

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<v Speaker 1>factor of maybe thinking about it, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel aliens would have like the biggest dicks, Like

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<v Speaker 1>their dicks would be like bigger than horses. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I envisioned aliens. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's really so I'm into sci fi, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this on the show often. Clearly I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in science, which is probably why I'm so into sci fi.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have because of the science. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>fake ship bro. So I'll really be like into sci fi,

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<v Speaker 1>like thinking, if the if the world is these aliens,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I think they all friendly. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why we think aliens are bad people. I think differently too.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they would all give women orgasms since

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<v Speaker 1>men can't. So I'm here for aliens coming to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first point you're going to direct speaking of laying

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<v Speaker 1>egg porn, what's the weirdest thing you think you came

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<v Speaker 1>across while searching porn online? Kristen just generally research for

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<v Speaker 1>the book. Um oh wait, no, did you have research

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<v Speaker 1>for this? Oh? I just was thinking, of course, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which early modern like medieval type sexual scenarios I read

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about, but that's not really medieval sex. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't medieval people. I haven't really came across the porn

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but like, yeah, there gotta be Game of

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<v Speaker 1>Thrones all kinds of cosplay. As far as just general porn. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I've seen some interesting A friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>had some robot porn that had the robots had all

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<v Speaker 1>the different parts like two giant penises and a vagina

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<v Speaker 1>and an asshole, and so it was, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>really not like a hot human like robot. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, well, the face looked like a woman. There

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<v Speaker 1>were breasts, but you know, multiple penises, penis vagina. Now

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<v Speaker 1>what does your friend do it? What did your friend

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<v Speaker 1>get off on this port? Oh? Yeah, he actually paid

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and um, I think that's awesome. You should

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<v Speaker 1>pay for your porn. Um and because it's just support

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<v Speaker 1>niche right right, right right, But that that was totally

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<v Speaker 1>like animated, so that you know, but yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>anti is all animated porn? No, I think it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was like not because hence I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>technically it's like Japanese, right, so I this was Russian

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump got it, so yeah, it was. It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good. That's some weird ship. That's weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we said some weird ship, but that was some

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<v Speaker 1>weird ship, dude. So the weirdest ones we said on

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<v Speaker 1>our last episode, they got it because we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make them time. Christian someone wrote it and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching his porn where six dudes coming a cup,

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<v Speaker 1>they put it in a frying pan, cook it up,

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<v Speaker 1>needed to a girl and it really looked like eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, I want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of what rabbit hole he had to go

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<v Speaker 1>down to to find that one that's not that far, Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Mukoki every night and someone's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>into the feeding on like spoons or cups. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>just come on face or like body. I think that's sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>but like they girls drink it all the time. Makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>it made next step is popsicle ones? Right, Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it, I guess, and I just guess. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't into it. So I have a guy that used

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<v Speaker 1>to make me squirt like every time we had sex,

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<v Speaker 1>and he literally wanted me to squirt in a cup

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<v Speaker 1>so that he can mix it with the rock and

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<v Speaker 1>drink it. And so with a name for that drink,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lend you. There are moments where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at porn or hearing ship like that and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really shock me, And I'm like, when did they

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<v Speaker 1>go too far? I think that's too far to get

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<v Speaker 1>So our horrible decision for the week is, obviously, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sluts and feminists. First question, why do we need

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<v Speaker 1>read this book? You you were gonna get. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say it's not for everybody, so should read it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we should? Yeah, I think even if you totally

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with everything. Look, I'm putting forth a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>history interviews with a lot of different people, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>showing how women and feminine folks, which includes like gender

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<v Speaker 1>queer fems or trans women, you know, UM, how femininity

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<v Speaker 1>has been devalued and UM, how women and feminine folks

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<v Speaker 1>have been persecuted throughout history because of that. And UM,

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<v Speaker 1>just drawing all these different disparate parts of UM art

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<v Speaker 1>and culture and literature. It's it feels like a really

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<v Speaker 1>historical and I don't want it this turning people off,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I learned a lot more than I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad. Yeah, well I like I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When UM, when I was in probably my junior year

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<v Speaker 1>of college, we you know, we had to take certain electives, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and one was women in history. UM. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I actually don't like history, but I enjoyed reading that.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, nymphomaniacs were treated as mentally unstable and

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to like crazy houses and stuff. They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do that because women enjoyed sex, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's possibly what they are trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>even in this age where right now we're not tumbler,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're taking that away we're also taking away on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>so which I don't know, we're gonna have the Horrible

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<v Speaker 1>Decisions page much longer. But if it seems like we're

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<v Speaker 1>insinuating that people should go out and have sex, they're

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<v Speaker 1>can't saying those type of pages to Wildflower Sex is

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<v Speaker 1>a big Instagram that just got deleted. They got it back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, it's very it's horrible the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Foster Sesta and the persecution of

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<v Speaker 1>sex workers, and this also ties into that because um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going back into history with the same and talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the way women's sexuality and spirituality was not

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<v Speaker 1>thought of as you know totally uh anathema. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like those things could be combined and work combined in

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<v Speaker 1>certain belief systems thousands of years ago, and there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>priestesses in these temples where you would go have sex

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<v Speaker 1>with them and you'd reach communion with the goddess through

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<v Speaker 1>having sex with them, and that's like the highest of

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the highest ecstasy you could receive. And now you know

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>the way of sex workers are are treated and abused

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and not given rights in our country and countries in

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the world of course too. It's just unconscionable. And so

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that's like the next step is to realize, you know,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to designatize sexuality overall means to also like treat sex

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>workers with the same respect and give them equal But

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just not even only sex workers. I wanted I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring this down to any men who are

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>listening who are like, man, that's not me. I want

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to simplify it because it's a common thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>even have with this podcast, where a lot of men

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that women don't have sex to enjoy sex.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>They think that women attach all sexual acts to emotions

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to where women don't cheat or if you do this,

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you will how or slut because a woman attaches all

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>emotions to sex instead of just thinking that, hey, maybe

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>as a woman, I want to feel pleasure and I

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 1>want to come and even if you date it back

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 1>to the early centuries where women were just looked at

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>as reproductive organ like, it was looked down upon if

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 1>a woman just said, hey, I like having sex. I

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like now that you're talking about that, Kristin, can you

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>tell us because she's saying some things that I think

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you brought up with, which is like, what were things

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that people. Why were you called a which what were

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 1>some of those things that you could do? One of

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>them you mentioned was the art of seduction or birthmarks, Like,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>can you tell us some of those things? Yeah, And

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>just to respond to what you're saying before, I totally agree.

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not just sex workers. That's just like you know,

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the like heightened example, but all female sexuality,

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>all women's sexuality, is all anyone who identifies as a slut.

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you don't do a professional slut. You can be

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a civilian slut and like you get you got a

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of that stigma as well. Um, yeah, and you know,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>civilian slut got a stand up for the professional slots.

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, buil this all you totally do it. So yeah,

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>going back to you know, some of the same like

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>things that are happening to uh sluts today for just

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>want to enjoy pleasure consentially exactly every Roses in the book.

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I didn't write you. You wrote amber Rose,

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh okay, and then I read

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to Join the Truth and I was like, oh that's it.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right. So what was a witch? What

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>should you be a witch? For? One could be um

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>if you had a like a birthmark or unusual marking

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>where they especially in like British cases of witchcraft, because

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>they thought there'd be animal familiars which with these like

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>little demon animals often sometimes in the form of a

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>cat or like a goat or a rabbit, and they

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>would suckle on a witch's um teet or sort of

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>this protrusion of flat which oftentimes would be the clitterest.

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>So they would just you know, search a woman's body

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to find something a little off and a clip would

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>count as they're like, oh, yeah, that she has a clip.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>That's if you had a big complx. Yes, yes, if

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you had a big clip, they'd be like, oh yeah,

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>that's where the d animal demon you know, suckles and

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>so you're a witch. Yeah, shut the funk up. Yeah,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>there's got exemas, so I'm an extra nipple anything, you know.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And so that was one and of course the search

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>itself is like sanctified assault by the state. You know,

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>there's like men searching the bodies of these women for

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, so they really have not been known what

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to do with the clip. For you it's been demonized

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>literally like they literally thought it was the province of

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>some little demon like the little fleshy area has been

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>four centuries. So like what about women? Okay, so what

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>about women's sexuality made them a witch? Yeah? Um, I guess,

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, being too sexual, breast tips or maybe not

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that I don't have any evidence was that I know

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of of how body would be to deem her a

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>witch or not. I mean it's possible, but I don't

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have the evidence for that. Just acting out of the ordinary,

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the ordinary would change depending on the

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>town in the you know, the country or the regions.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So all the witch hunts, it was, it differed all

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>over you know, all over Europe. And there were some

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>men obviously, I gotta say that I don't like to

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>spend much time talking about something. Right, it's not many

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>but like or women, but there are men who accused

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of witchcraft as well, And oftentimes it was because they

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>were related to an accused female witch. Like yeah, if

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>your mom, your sister, your wife, you know you're probably next. Yeah,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and if you're a woman who's accused of witchcraft, but

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>then like acquitted, you know, sometimes you would you know,

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>be let off or you would you know, say yes,

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I I did speak to the devil, but I deny

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>him now, and they'd let you go and not kill you.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Then you would always have this like mark on your name.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And maybe twenty years later and more witch hunts are

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>coming up wherever you live, then you're just, oh, my god,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is this related to the Salem witch trials at all?

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So this all happened sort of leading up to, like

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 1>the Salem witch trials, so that that was influenced by

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the same beliefs that were percolating for hundreds of years beforehand,

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and so Salem is a little different. I don't want

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to like bore every minute or some of that, but

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of this also was political. It

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all about like female sexuality. Sometimes it was like

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a grudge or you know, trying to um make alliances

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>so they would like get rid of people that way

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>by accusing them of witchcraft. Sale. A lot of it

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was that it was not um really about female sexuality

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so much. Even Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, well

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess because I've been reading so much of that.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure. But we do that today. Is there

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>anything that we can put onto somebody to make everybody?

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess the same way we do. What do you mean, like,

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're saying that people were doing it for for gain,

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>is there anything that today we could call somebody and

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>they could completely be exiled. I guess the pedophile, Yeah,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>rapist in case basically which was up there, You'd get beheaded.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>That's insane. So I wanted to bring something up. I'm

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned amber Rose in your book and slot walk

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if this was your book or

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I read somewhere else, but I thought it was your

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>book where you said she used to slot chamber she

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>changed her tune. Yeah, that was an interview that I

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>read in the Guardian and I quoted her and she

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>said she used to call women sluts and hose in

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a bad way. Okay, I like that. You fixed that

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>she used to go women in a bad way. Yeah,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>because right now not now read that. But I only,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>uh wanted to bring that up to just ask you both,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>can women change their minds? And if they do and

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they have because we talked about amber Rose doing it,

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the most slut shamy thing you used to do

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>before you woke up? Because I'm gonna tell you mine. Okay,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I used to talk shit when I was like a

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit younger in high school about girls that were

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>having sex or got fingered or anything when I was

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>doing it, like I would shame them, talk shit about it,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and I would do it, you know, whether it would

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>be like anything, I mean, oh my god, she's a

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking whoreror like I would just I would. And I

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was wondering if you guys had had a moment where

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you've been like that and then you had to get comfortable,

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it be lying about your body, cow or or anything.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's I'll actually say, Um, this is something even

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>as recent as us starting the podcast. Um, I do

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>still think that ho and slut are not good words.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So even with this podcast and uplifting that word, it's

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>still something that I don't want to be referred to as.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.719
<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's still kind of a slut shamy

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>type of mindset, because I do want to I know

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that slut and ho and the words were probably created

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>by men just to shame women in their sexuality. And

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so unfortunately, do you think that you think that way

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>because you know people are using those words to be hurtful,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's I don't think that that's necessary. You're you know.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I just did this analogy on when I was on

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the Inner ho Uprising, and I said, I said, you know,

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>there's times where I think I want to stop saying

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the N word because I should be more woke. Right,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, because I definitely cringe when I hear

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the F word. But I realized why I do. It's

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>because nobody says my F like they say, there's never

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a term term of endearment, you know what I mean?

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So you know when someone what's up? What's up? Bit like,

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not right? So like you, we can feel comfortable

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>with these words, right, Um, but I think that you

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>know when someone tries to call you that they aren't

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>being nice like or try to say it in a

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>way where it can feel hurtful. Even hate to bring

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it up. But you've got an our huge argument, public

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>argument with about it. You know that that word what

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it felt like when you heard it? Yeah? Yeah, So

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're not gonna count that, dann God damn take

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>them out. Got name me? I slowle waight um um,

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say, um, it would be more so in

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the realm of when I did hang around more um

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sex workers. Um so growing up And I say growing up.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say between eighteen to about twenty two, a

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends were sex workers, um from porn stars, strippers, escorts.

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I still have friends that are escorts, and so I

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>would say, Um, I would slesh shame the free hose.

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I would slut shame the girls who are out there

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking and not getting money, or the girls who are

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>out there just sucking for flights, like, bitch, you sucking

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 1>for flights are Yeah. I would shame women who literally

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to instead, just because all of my friends

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 1>were like, bitch, if you got a pussy, you need

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to be charging. So I would literally shame the free hos.

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>We call it because there's paid hose and free hose,

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and so I guess at that point in my life

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I would I would like, who didn't kind of still

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>do that? Like, yeah, anything out of it. Yeah. I

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>loved when Nina k she's a porn star who came

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on and she talked about this fun threesome she had.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh my god, he flew me out. It's

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>from Tampa and my aunt, Well know, do you know

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's free and off sit here and say that. I

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like I even so thinking that I used to

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have that thought process yourself. No, people direct that to me.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And when I talk about pegging or the enjoyment of pegging,

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of women and men be like, wait, you

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>do that for free? And so people want me to

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>charge to peg niggas. So I'd be like, I enjoyed

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it, why would I charge? And so yeah, so

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the same thing that I put out to other people like,

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I get it now, but I enjoy doing that. Why

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>would I charge? Is the mindset? And if a woman sex,

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>why should she? What's yours? I think? Um, I'm trying

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>to think because I did go to like an all

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>girls school, and it was really cool to be as

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>slutty as possible. I'm slutty with all girls. Well, you

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>would like go to the all boys school or with

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>each other? So I grew up like I grew up

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>lying a lot about having done a lot of stuff

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do. You you're like verse, yeah, like so

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I would you know what? It makes sense? You wrote this? Yeah,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I went like I was going to like kink clubs

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>when I was a virgin. I mean, I don't even

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>believe in virginity, but you know what I mean, you

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>don't don't believe in virginia. Well, I think I don't

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>believe in scientistic like the whole concept of attaching some

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of value to whether and it's all based really

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>on sort of like a heteronormative like you know, the

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>idea of a penis entering of vagina and you know,

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>in a woman or whatever. So I think there's a

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of problems associating, like changing how society views you

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>based on if the dick has been you in you Like,

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that's like that really like that and what's Crazy's a virgin?

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, what's even with what you just said? She's

0:35:54.880 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a virgin? We attached virginity too, sh yeah, right, and

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>so like what does virginity mean if you're queer? Like

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>if you're not? Like always used to ask, right, So

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>when I was going off, I knew I liked girls,

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>but didn't really play it by sexuality until a little

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>bit older. I always used to be so curious, like

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>lesbians lose it? Do they always have their virginity? Right?

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And right there you go, that's totally fucked up anyway.

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Besides that point, so I was still like going, I'm

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>loving this my home villo. That was interesting. I like that.

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I think we should like spread that to the huge virginity.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Virginity is not a thing anyway, so um, yeah you

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>would about I was like fifteen, and I would still

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>be like a virgin. So I think for me it

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>was like thinking you had to do that's not really

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what you're asking, but just like no, no, no, that's

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>good if you have to be the reverse st I

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know that that you're you're really uncool or being

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>a prude or terrible if you want to say no.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So that was a thing for me because I thought

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I consent. Obviously, I'm like thirty six, so consent was

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>not like a thing. I like, yeah, sent was not

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>like a thing you just like, do I want to

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>do it to you say okay, or you're uncool. So

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that was why the way D c okay for the

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Women's parch I was that the original, but I'll probably

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>be at the New York one was the original DC.

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I do have a now a question. You brought up

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>um Satan and the political rebellion, and I was like,

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, because I'm already scared after the broad Box.

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But then I found it very interesting that Satan is

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>or sat didn't mention really worshiping the devil because I

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>thought Satan was the devil. Now they're feminist, Can you

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>explain that? Yeah, I'm sure, And I know that there

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>are people who, you know, worship a devil in the

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>sense that you know, preachers and Christianity says they have

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>for religious reasons, right, But I've never met those people whatever.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>But today there are groups of people who identify as Satanists.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>But Satan is like an archetype and icon of being,

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like the eternal rebel, So they take the God right,

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they take ideas of Satan from literature, uh in the past.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So basically it's Satan as this sort of you know,

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of nontraditional bad boy answer christ right and and

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and against um, you know, following these rules that like

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the Christian Church is have set up for us. So

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been conditioned to be scared, right, So there's nothing

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>scary about those Satanists at all. But of course when

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>they do things, people still come out to protest because

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>they think they're drinking the blood of babies or this

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and that. But there's a lot more ethics involved in

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Satanism than I would say in a lot of Christianity

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>right now. Overall, as far as you know, bodily autonomy,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>they believe they have different tenants. You know, there's different

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like Satanic groups, so there's not just one. So they

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>all sort of go about their Satanism Satanism in a

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>different way. But um, a lot of it is just

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>based on individuality, individual rights and you know, fighting for

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>other people's rights in your community. When I saw that

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.439
<v Speaker 1>with Satanist, I was like, so they really you're frightening

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>black people all right? Like that ship really fucked me up.

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Like Satanist in the Political I thought that was a

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>really cool chapter. Um. I also I am curious to

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>know you said your mom's a witch? What's a witch?

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Right now? So many things and that because Amelia is

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a blue hob but she's not a bad person. But

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like you're wearing black eyeliner right now, and Fishness liked this.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm just saying, Like that's what you

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>think is God, which like because that know, but the

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>aesthetics there's a big crossover, oy okay, because you know,

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>God aesthetics come from sort of session like you have

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a cap ball, but it's not a

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>cap scarf. What is it cape? Like a bandana? I know,

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know there was I should be wearing. Is that

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>a scarf? Maybe? I can't wait till we post a

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>picture of us. I wish I had want something more dramatic. Um.

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>But as far as what a witch is today, that

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>really that answer can be anyone. There are so many

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>different ways people to find which and people practice witchcraft.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>You know there are Christian witches, Jewish witches, Atheist witches,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>um Wickan witches. But you knew practice. What is it

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you teach an annual? You have an annual witch I

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>have a I have a charity festival. Actually I haven't

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>done it in a year because oh no. So basically, Glenda, Um, yeah,

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>So basically the proceeds from the st of all go

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to the Rape, Abuse and Incests National Network, because I'm

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of tying this lineage of you know, people persecuted

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>for supposedly practicing which craft in the past to you know,

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the abuse of women. So and I wanted to I

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you. So when um you posted the

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>book and I started commenting back and forth with some

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of our followers, they started saying, even some of the

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 1>spells that still go on today, So it's a myth.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a myth or what. Maybe

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's voodoo. Um period blood going in spaghetti, which is

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>why there's a myth that you're not supposed to eat

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone spaghetti. Have you heard of this? Not heard that one?

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a king in in his like in

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>his drink or something. Apparently the period, the period blood

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in the spaghetti is supposed to make him love you forever. Okay,

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of fun folk magic spells that I wouldn't

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily know, but like my mom had her own group

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of spells to line growing up that she would, you know,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>teach me that were based on like Catholic folk magic.

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember Catholic folk magic? Yeah, so you know,

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's like the Catholic Church, but then there's the

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>regular folk and there's a long running tradition of like, um,

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>people who are Catholic, like you know, the way like

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in like Haiti, Let's say a lot of people are Catholic,

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but they're also practice food practices too, you know, so

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. So they'd be like Catholic folk magic,

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>where you have to believe all the things in the Bible,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>but then you also do all these other things like

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe peeing in someone's tea or you know, my mom

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>would like take a statue of St. Joseph and buried

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>upside down in the in the front of the house

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if she wanted to sell the house to get it,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, when she was moving like a superstitious exactly.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's like kind of like the folk magic and

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>something else like shipping in someone's lawn, like taking a

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>ship and burying it. Yeah, it's supposed to like take

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>away their prosperous. Amelia told me, like, if you want

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of someone and shut them the funk up,

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you take their picture, you write a name on it,

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you put it in a cup, you pee, put a

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>little pee in the cup right, you close it, seal it,

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>put aluminum foil around it. So if they try to

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>get out, it goes back in and you freeze them.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You put them on a stuff in my freezer. Plenty

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of things. What um. Maybe she can say no, I

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to like, I don't want to say I

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>don't say that. People just like, yeah, yeah, it's just

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>like what is your house girl? The way back at

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the charity festival, Like you know, you wanna like cut

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>ties with someone and that's that's what you call. Or

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>there's like someone you want someone to like have sweet

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>feelings for you, and like, what's that one that's like

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>pouring honey on You can even write someone's name if

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it's of paper and pour honey on it and tie

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it up and instagram it. What if I don't know

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole name Instagram name work, I think so it

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is modern day, which it is. Actually I have a

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>friend who like anoints her phone before sleeping on Tinder.

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of shu raised that the digital interest.

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So if you like, let's say I have this Jezebel

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>oil that my friends, you know, who do you want?

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Who do you want? Because I'm about to go to

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who I want some fine a French black pep you

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait? Who oh? I thought she was about to say,

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>let's go come on. So yeah, I am not an

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>herbologist or like I don't make oils, but I have

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>friends who do. So let's say, like I have my friends, um,

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know love oil or love draw oil or Jezebel oil,

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like you could anoint your phone like all four you know,

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>corners and yeah, there's so many ways to do on

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>all four corners. Because this is who I want. His

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>name is Ruby lisch Um. He's a soccer player, but

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>this is who I want. He's so got kill. So

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 1>what do I do to get him to Just DM

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>me bet because that's all I mean, Because the thing

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>is one of the most The best kind of witchcraft

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>is the kind of like you like feel that is authentic.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 1>You haven't if you do something that like you think

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is just from some dusty ol book or not, and

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you think it's dumb, it's not gonna work. So you

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>have to do something that feels like right, I'm masturbated

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>to him. That sex magic we got to talk about,

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I think from sex magic. This book deal came from

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and I got another book deal recently from more sex magic. Wait,

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what is that? Come on magic? Sex magag Like witchcraft,

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>sex magic means a lot of things and a lot

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of different traditions. Like I'm not initiated into a tradition.

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I have my own like ship that I just learned

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>from family stuff and just from friends and what felt

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>right to me and some other people like really like

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a serious qualified path that you know, other people have

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>written books about and have you know, you know, sacred

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>text that's not for me. That's too close to like

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>organized religion for me. So there's no sacred texts in

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>my world. You know. I go with my intuition and

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what works, you know, and it's all sort of still

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>working with nature and nature based ship. But the digital

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>is obviously important. That world is what we live in.

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>But so shakrabs, you're talking about Crystal egg, bro, I

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>need them to sponsor us. I love Vanessa, you know,

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>she's in the book. Oh my god, bro, like it

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>would be perfect. She would I'm sure I moved one

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>with someone else. Her and I were like, it was amazing,

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.919
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to like puppets. But but even

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>even talking about it, so we kind of slightly brought

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it up with Amelia who mentioned kind of just crystals

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and how they really and us saying the importance that

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this isn't y'all going out buying crystals and show no,

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>do not do that. No, No, that was like poked

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 1>me before. Yeah, so sex magic and chak rubs even

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, yeah, so I used a chak rub. I

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>used to do my own sex magic without anything else.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, I realized I was doing sex

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>magic without knowing and how I would masturbate and like

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>think about things and envisioned goals and things, and it

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>would happen. It would happen masturbating like thinking about a

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>new job, kind of like about the feeling like like

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like um, just like walking into a room feeling like

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>powerful or whatever. Sometimes there'd be you'd be thinking about

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 1>a person too while you're jacking off or whatever, but

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of having this goal oriented practice or like thinking

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>about raising certain types of feelings, or like a hot

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>outfit you're wearing and you feel so powerful and sensual

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>in that moment. Oh my god, Kristen, I'm masturbated in

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the suit I was wearing for the job I got.

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was just really really horny that day. But

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it with intent. I just you still

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>were wearing. I felt really good in the suit. I

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>masturbated and it was like, oh, like it just felt

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>so good, and then you got the job I did. There,

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you go, that's the same thing. It doesn't have to

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>always be like conscious like that, you know what I mean? So, yeah,

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I I met a friend who was a creative director

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 1>for a publishing house, and I told her I teach

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.479
<v Speaker 1>a class based on this at the new school. So

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I just about that and then she's like, oh, maybe

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you should do a book proposal or whatever. But I

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know, I didn't know if I was

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>going to get it. So I thought, Okay, I really

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>need to make this ship happen. You know. I even

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>had a friend like carve a candle for me with

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like and I you know, put all my intentions into

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>into that. And it was a full moon and I

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>had my shock rub and it was a pink of

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>rose Courts one, a pink one because it was for

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like self love to really just like get into put

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.839
<v Speaker 1>rose Court sometimes totally. Or you could do like I've

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>also done with Obsidian, to like get rid of all

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the negative feelings you might have about something, to set

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you free to like really get the next day because

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm really scared about my ask there you go, I'm

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting in my booty, I kind of I'm sitting there.

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I did it. And then um, the day

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I press send on the proposal, I did my ritual,

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, jerked off with my chakrab. A month later,

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 1>on the next full moon, I got an email of

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>saying you have it, so you basically fucked yourself into

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>my hands. Uh wow, people can And I actually teach

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a class with a friend of mine. It's a sex

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and color magic class on how do you use like color?

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, your your outfit, I only like black cock.

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>That what you like saying the word cock. But when

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I put black front, that's what I like. So we're

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>not you know, we are not trying to up your

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>book deal. Let me shut up. So not colored people,

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>but color your bedspread or your sheets, or the room,

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the color you paint your room with, the outfit you wear,

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the lingerie while you're jerking off. But okay, it's always black.

0:48:58.120 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>My sheets are always all white, and then my clothes

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>are always all black. Same, what do I need to change?

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, all different colors have a different sort of

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>energetic frequency and they also mean different things. And so

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>if you money, let's say green. Okay, so you want

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>some money. I had a friend who was always like, yeah,

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>when you know, jerk off, like, get some some greenery,

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like some live plants, you know, some fresh green, you know,

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and obviously imagine like green exploding and falling on you

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>or money, you know, when you're when you reach climaxes

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>kind very like a red red light and the moment's

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>supposed to bring more sexual Actually I didn't hear about

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that because my daddy jam Makan, and he had a

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>red light. And when that red light was on, I

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>stayed away from the bedroom. Do you remember that. I

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>swear to guy. I was like, daddy, why are your

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:49.399
<v Speaker 1>light red? And then we ended up talking and I'm like,

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>my daddy, we're not going into the room when the

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>lightbulb is red because I'm not trying to have what

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is it called When the water humidifier thing it glows,

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I put the oils in it. So sometimes I changed

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the color, like I noticed what I want, like a

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit of softer sex. It's like that light blue.

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know I were cractic like color and

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>sex magic? Right, Oh my god, a witch. I knew

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it was right now. Okay, So I want to play

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the game really quick only with you. Basically, I just

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 1>called and I want to say a name, and you

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just tell me about what's going on from your book.

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>So first one is Titchuba, the Black Salem witch who then,

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>is that one of the first three women accused of

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>witchcraft in Salem, and she was the only black woman

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>accused of witchcraft. Actually her racist ambiguous ambiguous, Sorry that's

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what I was. But some people think she was an

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>indigenous woman umm Barbados, and some people think she was

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought write. So it's still not known the documents.

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 1>It's because her last name was Indian, so they don't

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>because she also could have been married to an indigenous

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>man and his like they would call him John Indian

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>was her husband's name, So they don't really know. Why

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>was she so famous though she's so famous because releas no,

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no, there's not really a sexual aspect to her

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>someone else but um, well, actually know the reason why

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking it is because in actual historical like sense

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that we know of, she was just accused of, um

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>being a witch and she came out and said, uh, yeah,

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw all these other women in town doing witchy

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>shipped too with the double so they were trying to

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>funk with her, and she funked with them back and

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>she survived. She actually did not get put to death,

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>so that but we don't really know according to history

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>what happened to her. But there was this book that

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I write about by Marie Conde, which is I Titch

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of a Black Witch of Salem and totally story. Yeah,

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and Tichi was a totally like sex positive witch, uh,

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and she ends up getting to Salem through of you know,

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of uh strange mishaps. And she is like

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a slut in the best sense of the word. She's

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>always trying to tell the like the white Puritan women

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>she's around, to like not be so fucking uptight, and

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.399
<v Speaker 1>sex is not of the devil, but like a natural, human,

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>beautiful experience. So that I like that. We have no

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>proof that that that's real, but it was a great

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like part of no. I like that. So the second one,

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>which I feel like some of us should we should know.

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've seen Dinner Party, the installation

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>at the Brooklyn Museum, of course, the ship So Join

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Your Truth was in it. If you guys don't know

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:28.359
<v Speaker 1>what it is, I'm gonna try to describe it. It's

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in the shape of a pussy, like really in my head,

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a triangle, right, and it's all these plates and

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it basically shows you in the version of I don't

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>know a dinner plate what their pussy would look like.

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>For example, Georgia O'Keefe, the artist we know with flowers,

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>her pussy looked like a flower. And UM, so join

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>your truth was on there. Can you tell us who

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that is if we don't know? Yes, So she was

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>um formerly a slave and then was emancipated and um

0:52:54.880 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was a great orator and basically went around and these

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>beautiful impassioned speeches to like hundreds of people about the

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>realities of black women and enslaved women, and basically was

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>shaking up the suffragist movement at the time when a

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of the suffragists are super racist and saying, yeah,

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>women's rights only for white women. But this was also good, sister.

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.919
<v Speaker 1>Journal Truth was someone that I learned in school a long,

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.879
<v Speaker 1>very long time ago. Um. And they even so there's

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a festival in Eatonville, Florida, UM called the Zorneil Hurst

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and Festival. So so journal Truth was also with her

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>UM means of or rating and speaking and writing for people.

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 1>It meant a lot because of course, as you guys know, education, writing,

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>those things were not given to slaves, let alone women. UM.

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 1>So she actually, yeah, was very known during I'm not

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna say civil rights movement or anything like that because

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it was far well before that time, but it was yeah,

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but as a woman coming out being able to hold

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.359
<v Speaker 1>those type of like it's not the first first black

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>city in in Florida, that's right, okay, Um, and it's

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in Orlando, Florida, which is where we're from. So but yeah,

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>all of that, and she was accused of being a

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.479
<v Speaker 1>witch and she actually won a court case and got

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 1>money for it because people said you were a witch

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I'm not in the sense of

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the term back then, which yeah. So the third one

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I have in there, Um, you wrote something about after

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King died, the Witches of NYC started What

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Oh? I think I was just setting context

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for like what was happening in the world. It wasn't

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>like a direct response, but it was that they were

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:40.399
<v Speaker 1>protesting activist group called the Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell,

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>which is which w t H and UM. They dressed

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 1>up as witches and would do these like sort of

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>protests like guerrilla theater like you know, um performance art

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>slash protests like they hext the New York City stock exchange.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:57.760
<v Speaker 1>None of them as far as I know, really believe

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I do rooms around when they're they're sort of like

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 1>using a witch as a feminist mascot in a way.

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>So dude, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like after

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>reading your book, I really wanted because well even them

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 1>having the brooms are dressing up like that's all. That's

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 1>also just the narrative idea of what we think of

0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a witch. Like even if we look at the witches

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and the Wizard of Oz and you know, the good witch,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>bad witch, but that which had the point, he had

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the point, you know, I want the point. What's funny

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>about Mandy saying this is before when you sat down,

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Mandy was like, I just want to you know, I

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>don't like but like you get woke now I'm getting awoke.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Always a wait, Well, there's just so many ways to

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about the witch as a figure and an archetype.

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>And like my dad being a super atheist, you know,

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he would think so much of this is like bullshit.

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>But when it's couching this like political, you know sense

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>there's like a real history that I think it's important,

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 1>so that like how it ties to back to just

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>sexuality and feminism just essentially men not wanting to allow

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a woman to be a woman, explain the woman body, um,

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and not just allow us to feel those same things

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 1>in the same orgasms that men get to us. So

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's and I like how you tie that

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>into again the slut shaming what we're dealing with. You

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>brought up she wrought up Hillary Um with the burner

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.760
<v Speaker 1>at the stake thing, and I just love them, Like, basically,

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 1>whiches are now sluts and feminists and it's the same ship.

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Are they any other black feminists that you think we

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.400
<v Speaker 1>should all know about or rejoice in? I know, our

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 1>modern day one we could say is like an Amber Rose.

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You brought up her slat walk and how important it is,

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 1>But like, are there any other ones that you think

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.920
<v Speaker 1>should be maybe highlighted or not as well known. I

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>mean she's well known, but in a different way. Bree

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Luna who runs the Hood, which oh I think she's

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>super inspiring, badass, which she had her own room at

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine Rooms. Yeah's killing it. She's also an awesome

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>person and super funny and creative and what she don't

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>know her name? So with her with her business and

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like building the visibility of you know, a different like

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>way we see the witch because a lot of you know,

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood films, at least TV, which is are white and

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that you follow the hood witch, and that

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is like not the way real witches are. Real witches

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 1>are every different type of like actually trying, dude, I'm

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to pay a black witch switch. I'm trying to

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>think too in pop culture. Yeah, yeah, I mean, now

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>there's like like The Vampire Diaries had some and you

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>know it's not as many either American story that whole oay,

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is there anything else? But yeah, it's really Actually the

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>odds was it was so but the Black One and

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a black witch in that damn. I mean

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I get. I mean technically yeah, apart from American. So

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>every week we get homeml right, which is basically our

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 1>listener um questions that they send in. And I wanted

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to read this one. Hella, ladies, I don't even know

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>how to start this. Hope it makes none the show. Um,

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>so she wrote twice, but like, please read this on

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>your show. Happy New Year. I love it. You guys

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:12.479
<v Speaker 1>are going strong in your lives. It gives me hope.

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 1>For the women Empowerment movement. Thank you. So my home

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>mail is that I want to be more sexually open

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and try things like a three summer, even using toys,

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 1>or just being more of a freak overall. I grew

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 1>up in a church strong and forced home, both with

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>my mom and dad, so so all of that wasn't

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the lord was banished. Now I was a woman in

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>my thirties, I've had sex, of course, and I have

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>two partners, one male and female. Now. I was with

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman in college for three years and it was bad.

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt verbally emotional abuse, cheated on, used, And now

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that I'm with a man, we have connections about sex,

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and I do feel bad that I'm not into trying

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>anything new, including toys, lube, watching porn. My question is

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<v Speaker 1>whether there's something I should do to be more open

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<v Speaker 1>or should I leave him, basically because it's not happening

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>with him real quick. I have a young sister who

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<v Speaker 1>went for our way to college and she did nothing

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>but white men. We're a black family, by the way.

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>My mom kicked her out of the house years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and she checked my sister's email in front she was

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>sending nudes to white man I've never tried pink talk,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was interested, but that situation, my two sister

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and my mom put me off. Any advice would be great,

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the show. I feel like she brought that

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<v Speaker 1>up because we assume that, like white guys are like

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 1>into freaky st like, bitch, why do we have a

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>show like I mean, we're trying to. I mean, I'm

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, and I've said it more times than not.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never been with pink dick. I've only been sorry

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 1>because you're white. I don't know already. Okay, I'm sorry.

0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to marry it, but I've never I

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:42.480
<v Speaker 1>never had so like so like all of these sexual

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 1>experiences that I've had and y'all know, y'all call me

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like the freakiest, like it's so nasty, but they've all

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>been with black men. So I think it is a

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>opening up. If unfortunately he's telling you he's not into

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 1>this again, I think communication is super big. Maybe you

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 1>tell any even know if you're bringing it up it

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it doesn't sound like you're not bringing it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can start off small ways. Be like, listen, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>I came across this porn and it's kind of wild,

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<v Speaker 1>but look at it and kind of just gauge what

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks about easy, I think definitely. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>really read this with you because I feel again like

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<v Speaker 1>religion kind of puts that back on us, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask specifically because maybe she needs to hear

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's not a direct answer to her, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does religion really shape the way we think about sex?

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<v Speaker 1>And how can it then factor in later? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>does it do to us? Well? Most like monotheistic religions

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<v Speaker 1>demonized sex, particularly for women and before marriage, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like born into that, it's really really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to like deprogram your mind and it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>constant process you have to go through, and you should

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<v Speaker 1>be like give yourself a break too for not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>like where to turn or how to go forward. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's awesome that someone would come out and ask

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<v Speaker 1>those questions, because it's a super it's brainwashing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you should feel bad if you

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<v Speaker 1>grew up like they. You can't help it. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>can't help how you're born. I did an episode on

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<v Speaker 1>our Patreon which one of my best friends on their

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<v Speaker 1>James talks about Yeah, well, he calls his evangelist like family,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great, but he says, you know, like my

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<v Speaker 1>mom would cut out pictures of breast like cleavage in newspapers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I jerked off for the first time and

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't know what happened, what came out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, bro, like everything about sex. I was fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up because of this fucking bullshit, you know, religion that

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<v Speaker 1>I went through and how it just made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everything was bad. He said that he even hurt

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<v Speaker 1>in church once. You shouldn't jerk off because it'll make

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<v Speaker 1>you gay from touching dick. And even though that's extreme,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very extreme. Just I feel like her saying religion

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<v Speaker 1>was in our home. I feel like that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so scary to then bring it up, because even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it is wrong. That same, yeah, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything sexual in some ways wrong in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of your mind maybe, or even bringing it back to

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<v Speaker 1>where we sit here and demonize women for wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex or experiencing sex, and then if they lose

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<v Speaker 1>it before or marriage, now you're tarnished. Now, you're soiled.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're bad goods. So even to grow up in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that type of environment where that's your mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>I can get where now it may be even hard

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<v Speaker 1>for her to say maybe I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>try kicky things, but maybe it's hard not even knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how to express it herself. That's maybe it's just in

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<v Speaker 1>her head. So if she feels like he won't do

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<v Speaker 1>it with it, if she can't say the words. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we have so many questions, we get like this, what

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<v Speaker 1>would be your advice to someone that can't blatantly say

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<v Speaker 1>what they want? What are other ways to be inventive

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<v Speaker 1>with sex or asked for things that you want rather

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<v Speaker 1>than just being like I want you to fuck my

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<v Speaker 1>throat because they don't really know yet, Because that like

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<v Speaker 1>figuring it out what you want first is important, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that is like all in the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of fantasy, and that could be done with like like

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<v Speaker 1>a masturbation challenge, you know, like if you sit with

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and like make yourself, you know, pleasure yourself without

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<v Speaker 1>right just like what I like that? What comes to

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? What do you like? That's theright thing to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So then over a month, like write down all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that come up and then try them in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least you know, decide if that's something you

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<v Speaker 1>want to broach or even I don't know how old

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<v Speaker 1>she is, but something that works when I'm dating someone

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<v Speaker 1>or when I'm trying to get to know how kinky

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<v Speaker 1>someone is, I say, let's play the game twenty one questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You never really get to twenty one questions, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it just opens the dialogue like, let's not even limit

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<v Speaker 1>what we can ask, but it's twenty one questions. How

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<v Speaker 1>would you answer this? And so it's gauging what's really

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<v Speaker 1>kinky to you? Would you try this? Um? This came

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<v Speaker 1>to mind? Have you ever watched this type of porn?

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<v Speaker 1>And so you turn it into a game to where

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<v Speaker 1>you can even start off by saying, some of these

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<v Speaker 1>things I've never done, but I just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what your what your take is on it. So then

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<v Speaker 1>you turn it into just something kind of whimsical and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of childish. But now you're not you know, saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I'm into because honest really fun. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>guy I dated one said I knew wouldn't be for

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<v Speaker 1>me because he said I laughed during sex, And you

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was just respectful. It was a Slovenian guy.

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<v Speaker 1>What church or something. He was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That really made me uncomfortable. I like, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>much funny ship happens during sex? Think about when you're

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<v Speaker 1>switching positions and like you're like, oh, fun Like how

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<v Speaker 1>can I not laugh a little? I laughed every time

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be laughing, dude, I'd be laughing when I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm done right, And I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I laughed really hard during sex, me

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<v Speaker 1>and Scissors were having sex and we're using this like

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<v Speaker 1>double dong. We put it down, I'm going down on her,

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<v Speaker 1>we pick it back up and because jelly, all his

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<v Speaker 1>hair is stuck to it, and I'm like, bitch, between

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<v Speaker 1>your and my fucking we've look at this like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last time I laughed during sex was, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say why because yeah, I'm but he came.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him, and oh, I think I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this on a Patreon episode. So I asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>come on my face. That's kind of what I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>but he shot out like I as I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>to come on my face so I missed the closing

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<v Speaker 1>my eye part and it went in my eye and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing because I'm literally like this and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you came in mind. And he thought it was the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest thing. And I'm like I just got my lashes

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<v Speaker 1>done and he's laughing, but I'm like, no, nigodies was

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<v Speaker 1>eighty dollars and I but oh my god, Christ And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, someone wrote in right and was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know if you guys could like debunk

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<v Speaker 1>this question. But somebody came in my eye and I

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<v Speaker 1>swear I could feel it swim and we talked about before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this. Yeah, and really literally we sat

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<v Speaker 1>here and was talking about she thought there was it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it happened to me after like, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it. I feel the last time what happened, I

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty drunk and there was like I was also

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<v Speaker 1>really hungry, and so it was kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>late night you know, like meet up and I had.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at my place and there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>bag of chip next to the bed and I was

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm on top and I'm like, you did not

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<v Speaker 1>start eating just while he was oh, my god, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Do you watch Insecure? Yes? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>when she was eating the She's like, oh, yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in the fun I'm not like super into food

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<v Speaker 1>and sex. But I was just super drunk and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like he's a funny guy and we laughed together

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I was like, I'm just gonna he

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do that. I would love when someone to

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<v Speaker 1>laugh at that, Like, no, I like that really doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even think of It's because when you do other things

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<v Speaker 1>while having sex, like I'm not gonna lie for me

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<v Speaker 1>having sex, don't watch TV because then likens like there's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things like like I like when my nigga smokes

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<v Speaker 1>his blunt while I'm sucking his dick. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like if he's watching TV while I'm sucking. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the funny way when I'm going down. I

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<v Speaker 1>love when people are on the phone. I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep a straight the okay, not like a

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<v Speaker 1>business call, but like even like it makes it even

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<v Speaker 1>better get those spreadsheets over, huh. I love like let

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<v Speaker 1>your mama call you while I'm like that. I love

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<v Speaker 1>you already talked about admitting incests. Okay, so not really

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but I like for him to try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a straight face and make it sense, like, okay, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>let me call you back. I'm a little busy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I like that. It's to answer your question

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<v Speaker 1>about pink sick. Listen, I will tell you that I

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<v Speaker 1>used to say that. I thought like when I first

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<v Speaker 1>started dating white guys, I was like, Okay, they're freakier. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think there's this all around weird thing where

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<v Speaker 1>with black men and women, we feel like we can't

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<v Speaker 1>say it, so we kind of just wait for it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, whereas I don't know why that's just our thing,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas with white guys, he had to just happen, where

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<v Speaker 1>guys would tell me what I liked, quicker, faster, or

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<v Speaker 1>asked to try things with me where they didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure. My guys aren't saying that, so you

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<v Speaker 1>stick a figure in there, and they moved that little

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<v Speaker 1>butt so you could stick mowing there exactly, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it, So like you're right. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really true because I was like, initially, like

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<v Speaker 1>white guys freaker, but like they're not right, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>you can just talk about it more, right, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's another thing of like black men maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>even wanting to be quote unquote disrespectful, right, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>that big thing around there where like we want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure like we I don't know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, I don't know if you can agree, Kristen,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I felt like it was cooler for like

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<v Speaker 1>white girls at my school to be slats over like

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<v Speaker 1>the black girls. Like I feel like it was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's way more like ability to be a slat and

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<v Speaker 1>then go be like a respected member of society. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that like double stigma totally. It didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like classes an issue too. You know, Yes, more money

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<v Speaker 1>have the why do you are the easier it is

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<v Speaker 1>to be like I'm slut and then still be treated

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<v Speaker 1>like a human. Yes, when I was on Van Strow,

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying it, but I couldn't articulate. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, but I couldn't figure out what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really have felt like that, Like I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like with my white friends they would get excited about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and with like black girls, it was just like I

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<v Speaker 1>can never like for sure sucking dick. Y'all's name's Becky

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<v Speaker 1>with a good head like its White girls like y'all

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<v Speaker 1>are praise it, like being able to sethnicity. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to give good head. Unfortunately with with

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<v Speaker 1>black girls like that stigma has been to wear you

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<v Speaker 1>still stick too good? How No, either that or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>black girls don't give his good head because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>touch their hair. They don't want their hair touched and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that around black women sucking dick compared to

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<v Speaker 1>white girls putting that shir up in a polltail and

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<v Speaker 1>just going at it. There's a meme we posted today

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<v Speaker 1>with like you sucking the soul out of him with

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<v Speaker 1>your wig off, Like I'm sorry, but I had to

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<v Speaker 1>really get around like only with white guys and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, like having a sew in and being like

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to touch my braids and feel weird?

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<v Speaker 1>And now oh I don't and I should be blending,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe i'd be like just so you notice

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<v Speaker 1>saying a mine. Then when they get the feeling and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they're confused because I have guys that

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<v Speaker 1>like go to pull it and then I feel them

1:10:16.320 --> 1:10:18.720
<v Speaker 1>like touching and yes it's a sewing. You want to

1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:20.840
<v Speaker 1>keep sucking your dick or not, you can touch it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that some of them think it's my

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<v Speaker 1>natural hair until they go do the hold on white

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<v Speaker 1>girls got clippings and they do they do. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? You'll be taping your hair and no

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<v Speaker 1>tape micro beating. But she's like, okay, back about listeners

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<v Speaker 1>know where they can find you, where they can possibly

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<v Speaker 1>get your book if you have any other books for

1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:49.400
<v Speaker 1>them to read if they like, which is fus feminists?

1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:52.519
<v Speaker 1>What else? Um can our listeners do to get you?

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<v Speaker 1>Find me on Instagram? It's Christian Corvette Corvette with a

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<v Speaker 1>K in descript enough here we're gonna put her book title,

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram, her site, and we'll also tag it um yeah,

1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:07.160
<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I have a new book coming out next

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<v Speaker 1>fall is like kind of a part two but evolving.

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<v Speaker 1>How um cats actually have been coded as these like

1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:19.599
<v Speaker 1>hyper sexual bee line entity? Yeah, why do we call

1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:22.080
<v Speaker 1>it a pussy? Like? Why is it? You know? Why

1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:24.680
<v Speaker 1>are women caddy? Like? What are all these associations with

1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:28.240
<v Speaker 1>cats and sex and women? And like if you look

1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:30.040
<v Speaker 1>on like the stock room. Let's say, just like you

1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:32.519
<v Speaker 1>guys are y'all friends. So this whole just made me

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<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode on animals with six animals, haven't

1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:40.120
<v Speaker 1>But we came from like all this bull about animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking God. May have or may not have listened to

1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:44.879
<v Speaker 1>that episode yet, but we did a whole fucking episode

1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:47.519
<v Speaker 1>about animals, sucking bro. But no, for for real, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>like think about the cat emoji. How it's got like

1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the like it looks hotter? Yeah, why do we think

1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.920
<v Speaker 1>cats wire cats? Let's so that's basically and also there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a history and also at the time of the

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<v Speaker 1>witch trials, many cats were also put to death and

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<v Speaker 1>like associated the black cat right or the cat lady archetype,

1:12:02.640 --> 1:12:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know all these like weird cats and women associations

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<v Speaker 1>like dogs or men cats or women, Like why what

1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.559
<v Speaker 1>is it? Like? So that's my next catt Yeah it's

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<v Speaker 1>called cat call. Uh reclaiming the feral feminine. Okay, so

1:12:17.400 --> 1:12:19.840
<v Speaker 1>we gotta read that one, and then next fall is

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<v Speaker 1>no like this yeah yeah you know, well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>until then we brought your book. Do you do any

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<v Speaker 1>like talks? I do talks, um, I do events and

1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like I post about them all on my Instagram. Mostly

1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:33.800
<v Speaker 1>have a website. That's boring, and one goes to a

1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:36.880
<v Speaker 1>website right, not anymore. We bought the domain, but we

1:12:37.880 --> 1:12:41.960
<v Speaker 1>ain't even posted yet, Like I'm on word for us

1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to start it was effort. No, it's a ton. You

1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:47.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta get the graphics. It's just a lot. But how

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<v Speaker 1>what's the proper way to buy your book to put

1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:52.280
<v Speaker 1>money in your pocket? Let's talk about that. I do

1:12:52.600 --> 1:12:55.120
<v Speaker 1>usually sell it. I just sold out, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>replenish and I sell No, but the things, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's buy my own books from the publisher. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird, you know, I know how that said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not can you have to buy a high number?

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes I don't actually have the money to buy

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<v Speaker 1>my own books to sell. But you can get it

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<v Speaker 1>on like indie bound or the Strand or Amazon if

1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:15.479
<v Speaker 1>you're not against Amazon. The Strand gets you good money.

1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Strand is good the Strand. If you one hunts, you

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<v Speaker 1>get paid out. Okay, Amazon, it's fine on my website

1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:28.080
<v Speaker 1>if you do buy it, um, I get like I

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<v Speaker 1>send you like a little patch that's a sex switch,

1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.599
<v Speaker 1>and like stickers and so yeah, so that like it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most money in my pocket. But also just buy

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<v Speaker 1>the damn book however you want. Man, I'm just happy

1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to share this information. Is their audio version. I just

1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:44.519
<v Speaker 1>finished recording the audiobook. It's going to be out, like

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<v Speaker 1>I hope in a couple of months. You speak well,

1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:50.760
<v Speaker 1>so I listen. Maybe hate when you're saying that you

1:13:50.840 --> 1:13:54.320
<v Speaker 1>can talk English. I just I appreciate it thanks in

1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:59.120
<v Speaker 1>accents mean to be fair, we've had guests where we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Liken like this fucking talk already there,

1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:06.160
<v Speaker 1>like weird, like you've spoken very well all episode. The

1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:09.080
<v Speaker 1>same as King Noir, who also came on and so him.

1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I love when men speak well. I have this super

1:14:11.840 --> 1:14:14.320
<v Speaker 1>crush on a man who's taken but he has a podcast. Um,

1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:16.720
<v Speaker 1>if you guys, girl, he's taken up. He was just

1:14:16.800 --> 1:14:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on bands show, so if you guys want to hear

1:14:18.720 --> 1:14:22.439
<v Speaker 1>an intellection. I love Aaron Foster and how he's his mindset.

1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:25.040
<v Speaker 1>He's also into like science, he's an atheist and he

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<v Speaker 1>failed to science. No it makes me know, but like

1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:33.360
<v Speaker 1>so he makes atheism sounds sexy. I'm not gonna lie.

1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, maybe because that is liked. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's so woke so because of how he speaks, though,

1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it tries me on. So I think I'm a safeo

1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:43.920
<v Speaker 1>sexual bitch. Thank you very much. So you know, keep

1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:47.439
<v Speaker 1>going where. Yes, I think she's like what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, that's it. Are you on Twitter? A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people? Okay, not more? Instagram should pick up

1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:59.640
<v Speaker 1>my Twitter game. But yeah, I'm just trying. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also have the Sluttest Instagram also, but that's more like

1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>sluttest that's just not that that's not me, but like

1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the site and if you ever have some so like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have the Vanilla ships, some good Sluttest

1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff for us to just yeah, every episode we have

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<v Speaker 1>a Vanilla ship, so we love to send you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get featured insight. Yeah, I need Sluts of

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<v Speaker 1>the Month always we are yeah, all right, there we go,

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<v Speaker 1>there we know us the month. Alright, Well, guys, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you guys for tuning in again. We

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<v Speaker 1>are looking forward to seeing all of you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>tour um that is motherfucking Atlanta coming up on two

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<v Speaker 1>three New York City, March ninth. If you haven't gotten

1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:42.639
<v Speaker 1>your tickets now, they are selling the fun fest um

1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:45.160
<v Speaker 1>as you guys see, our dates sell out quick as

1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:47.439
<v Speaker 1>because y'all love us and everybody's hose in real life.

1:15:47.600 --> 1:15:49.519
<v Speaker 1>So if you guys want to see us, y'all better

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<v Speaker 1>get your tickets. Don't wait till you pay check, you

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<v Speaker 1>better ask one of your sugar daddies. Um. Also again,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to seeing you guys in Houston on Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll smoke with you after we'll also please remember to

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<v Speaker 1>bring tampons, bring pads, bring anything that goes. We are

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<v Speaker 1>donating and partnering with flow Code, which is an organization

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<v Speaker 1>that is helping undeserving UM. Underprivileged women are not deserving

1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:16.320
<v Speaker 1>underprivileged women who can't afford um, you know, menstrual products.

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<v Speaker 1>So please, if you're coming to our show in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and come with your tampons, your pads. Even

1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're not bleed in this, bring that with you.

1:16:23.479 --> 1:16:25.439
<v Speaker 1>We keep forgetting to bring that up. And I watched

1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this like really small documentary. I don't know if any

1:16:27.320 --> 1:16:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of you guys saw it. It was about homeless women

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on their periods. It was on Facebook circulated

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<v Speaker 1>maybe and um, yeah, this girl is like yes sometimes

1:16:34.920 --> 1:16:37.720
<v Speaker 1>like I'll take towels I have, like I don't know napkins. Yeah,

1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it's really going into UM is based in Texas, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited to be partnering with them. As you

1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:47.080
<v Speaker 1>guys know, a percentage of our sales is going to them,

1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:50.120
<v Speaker 1>but we're also donating product. And if you guys can't

1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:53.040
<v Speaker 1>make it to Houston, there is a donation link on

1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that ticket. So if you guys are in another city

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<v Speaker 1>and not in Texas but want to donate to the cause,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a donate link on our event right

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<v Speaker 1>and again, see you guys in l A UM Miami

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<v Speaker 1>and Toronto. UM in Chicago, bitch two shows that should

1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>probably sold out by now. So I didn't want to

1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:11.599
<v Speaker 1>say that because that ship we got, Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll still see them, Okay, we'll see how Chicago. Yeah,

1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.719
<v Speaker 1>we have a clip we're gonna play you of our Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think this episode was great, thank you. If

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<v Speaker 1>five bucks. You get three bonus episodes per month, every

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<v Speaker 1>Monday right after this episode. So thank you, Christen, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming. Wasn't the funnest podcast you've

1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:45.800
<v Speaker 1>been on it? Yes? Obviously. Hey guys, this has been

1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:52.439
<v Speaker 1>yet another episode of horrible decisions. By delete it all,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. I actually kind of want to find them now.

1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to use my own truth against myself now

1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want it's the best way, it really is,

1:17:59.000 --> 1:18:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and I would love to use my muckshot is like

1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:02.680
<v Speaker 1>my tender, I mean my Tinder my Instagram picture, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't find it. So I'm in a lace dress

1:18:05.360 --> 1:18:07.080
<v Speaker 1>with pearls. A J gott a picture of me with

1:18:07.120 --> 1:18:10.599
<v Speaker 1>that from that night, lace dress with heels, and I

1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was wearing lubatans and they had this picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wearing it while I was out and

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<v Speaker 1>around GP. So they make me change my clothes because

1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>my dress was too short. Put on prison clothes. I

1:18:21.000 --> 1:18:23.439
<v Speaker 1>had to spread cough. You have to stick your fingers

1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:25.920
<v Speaker 1>inside of yourself like hold your cheeks open and cough

1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like I farted. So there's so much air com you

1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:30.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. She's like checking in my tongue

1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and like making sure, like I don't have drugs. I'm like, which,

1:18:32.720 --> 1:18:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I swallowed it seven hours ago. So I was still

1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>mollied out in jail. So get there Friday. No, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's Saturday morning. I guess. I'm like whatever, I'm just

1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:42.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna sleep this ship off. So they give me a

1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>zip lock bag and they basically give you the necessities

1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:48.160
<v Speaker 1>before you have commissary money or whatever. There's a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of underwear, um toothbrush, a notepad, pens. They give you

1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:58.120
<v Speaker 1>pens and jail they had pen but like this is

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<v Speaker 1>in a bag ziplock bag and stamps. So I get

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<v Speaker 1>to my bunk and the girl says next to me

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<v Speaker 1>because she looks at my mug shot picture and they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at my nails in my hair, and they like

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<v Speaker 1>you getting out, huh. I was like, yeah, I'm getting out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she goes, look kind of your stamps. I said, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So I take the bag and I threw it at

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the bed. She goes to get them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so does another girl. These bitches start fighting nervous

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<v Speaker 1>stamps and my bunk slides off. I am now in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of these two bitches fighting, and I'm like,

1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:33.160
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it's no Origines of New Black was

1:19:33.160 --> 1:19:35.680
<v Speaker 1>out by then. I was terrified, Mandy. I thought these

1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.640
<v Speaker 1>holes gonna kill me. So didn't fucking they let them

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<v Speaker 1>fight the whole way through. They don't break them up

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. They let them fight the whole way through,

1:19:42.240 --> 1:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>which I've been there for a few hours. I'm terrified.

1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So he looks at me, He's like, oh, y'all go,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, absolutely not. I'm I have a court date.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting out. I don't know what these holes was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody, did you know what they were in there for? No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at the time, but people had different colors on it,

1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a little like the little little mugs shot. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that in a minute. So I sleep

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<v Speaker 1>for the first two days, honestly, like slept it through,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because I was so high, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that sleep? Wake up, see the light, you one

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<v Speaker 1>go outside. No sleep. So Sunday I wake up or

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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning. I'm starving, Mandy. I'm starving. Everybody's telling me

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<v Speaker 1>don't eat the food. Now they say this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's true or some jail tail,

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<v Speaker 1>but they like, don't drink the juice because they put

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<v Speaker 1>these like hormone suppresses in it, so nobody would fuck

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<v Speaker 1>like they put really weird shit in it. No, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, in jail they do that. Just a myth

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<v Speaker 1>jail mill, it could be. They were like, don't eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the food was so disgusting. I then went to

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<v Speaker 1>the counter of the person who watches the GP people

1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:38.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was excuse me, as you can see from

1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>my last name, I'm a Jew and I need a

1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:44.160
<v Speaker 1>kosher meal. She was like, okay, well you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see him till tomorrow. I was like, okay, well, I

1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:49.879
<v Speaker 1>had money in cash. Can I use that for commissary.

1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:52.160
<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, you can't do anything at the holiday weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a girl in front of me eating cup

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<v Speaker 1>noodles and when I tell you, it looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>steak bit for that the best Kobe wagou what I

1:21:02.280 --> 1:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>was used to at the time I'm watching her. He

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<v Speaker 1>was used to oxtail. He was sucking Jamaican's in good

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm looking at this girl with a couple who

1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was I'm like, what am I gonna do? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I convince her to fight home? So hold on? I

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<v Speaker 1>go up here. I'm like, hey, I have money, but

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<v Speaker 1>not with me. Can I put money in your conversary tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I pay you back? She's like hell no, So

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you. We're my negotiating you selling skills coming, bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, how much is one of those?

1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>She's like three dollars, which is very expensive. I was like, okay,

1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:35.320
<v Speaker 1>well I want three, so how about I double it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you twenty dollars. She's like absolutely not, and

1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I guess that's not that good

1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>at a risk. I'm gonna give you forty dollars when

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<v Speaker 1>I get out of here for three of those. So

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be basically betting nine bucks of your commissary to

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<v Speaker 1>make back more than triple. I wouldn't have trusted you.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I getting it? There are now ten bitches

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<v Speaker 1>talk about no, no, no, They're like, funk that ship.

1:21:57.800 --> 1:21:59.360
<v Speaker 1>One of them yelling at her like you'll be giving

1:21:59.360 --> 1:22:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you money every month? Anyway, bitch? Take it. It's take

1:22:01.479 --> 1:22:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the hell you got mad money. It's the thirteenth. I

1:22:03.680 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>remember the day because my mom's birthday, to like, just

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You still got money left, Just do it.

1:22:07.680 --> 1:22:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Bitch is worth it. So she did it. She wrote

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<v Speaker 1>down her am scott um prison idina because I had

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<v Speaker 1>to go to am Scott her prison idea number on

1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>my hand. She's like, bitch, if you don't do the shot,

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<v Speaker 1>beat your ass. And I was like, okay, Mandy, when

1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I tell you I ate them ships. Those two this

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:24.919
<v Speaker 1>day were the best meals I can remember when you're starving.

1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:27.479
<v Speaker 1>I got chicken beef and a vegetable one, but I

1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>was eating them ship slow. Someone gave me a little

1:22:30.200 --> 1:22:31.560
<v Speaker 1>milk to make that ship creamy. I don't even know

1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:33.639
<v Speaker 1>you can do that ship how So the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>right I go to court. It's in the morning. The reason,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they she gave it to me is

1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>because of that mug shot bag badge picture. I had

1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>those pearls on that lace stress and they were like

1:22:43.600 --> 1:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>she looked like she got money. And my nails were

1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:47.599
<v Speaker 1>done and my hair was like just freshly sewn in

1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're looking at me like she can afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get to court. There's two women before me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember specifically what they did. The first one

1:22:57.360 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 1>was in possession of crack cocaine, and the woman right

1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:03.759
<v Speaker 1>before me was there for prostitution. And so I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when I got up wired you here, I was like, oh,

1:23:06.040 --> 1:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just my license. I didn't do that. I just

1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:12.240
<v Speaker 1>drove that a license. So then I didn't realize how

1:23:12.240 --> 1:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>testy I was being. And she was like, so basically

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<v Speaker 1>you did it for a second time after we already

1:23:16.439 --> 1:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>had you up and watched it. I let you out

1:23:19.080 --> 1:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna do it again. I was like, man,

1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like pleading my case right. I think I

1:23:23.600 --> 1:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>was like twenty years old. So she tells me that

1:23:25.960 --> 1:23:28.000
<v Speaker 1>she will release me as long as I have an

1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>ankle bracelet on. Now. I couldn't understand why I would

1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>be on house arrest for just a license, and she said,

1:23:32.960 --> 1:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not house arrest is GPS. So we make sure

1:23:34.840 --> 1:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't flee the state. You can go wherever you

1:23:36.240 --> 1:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>need to go. So I go get this ankle bracelet

1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that was this big. It was huge. If you guys

1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>google GPS bracelet, it was huge, took up more of

1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>my ankle. I was chafing, and that's how big it was.

1:23:47.840 --> 1:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>It was rubbing against me. So long story short, there's

1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a battery in this with a microphone because you have

1:23:54.320 --> 1:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to charge it, and if you don't charge it or

1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:58.519
<v Speaker 1>if you flee, they will talk to you through the

1:23:58.520 --> 1:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>bracelet and find your ass. So I was wearing long

1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>skirts to work. I didn't know what else to do. Right,

1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so upset. So I finally was able to get

1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>some dicks. I'll call when he's drug dealing, because I

1:24:07.880 --> 1:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>knew and I was. It was Mike, and I was like, listen,

1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I'll let you know I have an ankle

1:24:13.120 --> 1:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>bracelet before you come over. He's like, it's okay, I

1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. We'd before. So he comes over.

1:24:17.960 --> 1:24:20.559
<v Speaker 1>We're fucking, and he's holding my ankle and like making

1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:23.120
<v Speaker 1>sure it doesn't rub up and down like he's holding

1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the ankle bracelet, and I'm like, damn, he got this

1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>ship together. So once we're done fucking, I'm like, yo,

1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you actually like that wasn't your first time? He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>bro