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Speaker 1: Welcome to her Decisions. I am super excited for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: My name is Wheezy, a booty bandit and uh I

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Speaker 1: shot my shot for the guests that we have. I

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Speaker 1: took a very thought e photo with her book between

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Speaker 1: my legs in Mexico. Mainly I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: reading this at yellow my bag in the suits yellow,

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Speaker 1: but um, we have a guest in and she wrote

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Speaker 1: this book that I'm in love with. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: so I just want to read the back of the

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Speaker 1: book cause I was like, how do I find this bit?

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Speaker 1: And then at the end of it it says she

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Speaker 1: curates the annual legacy of the Witch Charity Festival in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: New York, and I was like, oh my god. So

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Speaker 1: I googled your name and then I saw some professional

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Speaker 1: email and I was like, man, let me do the

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Speaker 1: Graham and I'm so got it right. I was actually

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Speaker 1: at the bar and I was like, what the I mean?

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Speaker 1: I love people take amazing photos, but that was a

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Speaker 1: amazing photo and like, as I drank. Also, I got

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Speaker 1: so many followers you know that happened. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: holy sh it, thank you and totally heard of your

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Speaker 1: podcast and I'm actually like, this is bad to say,

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Speaker 1: but I don't listen to podcasts a lot, but I

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Speaker 1: listened to like specific episodes and I've listened because Vice

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Speaker 1: after they covered you, I was like, yeah, introduce yourself please,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, my name is Kristin sole a ak Kristen

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Speaker 1: Corvette on the internet just because I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: like a trashy car and definitely like the trash car.

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Speaker 1: Kristin Corvette sounds super like fu. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 1: like a trashy car, but it's not like a fancy car,

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Speaker 1: right right right, I can afford it. I don't actually

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Speaker 1: have a fucking corvette yet, So that's like on the list.

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Speaker 1: I googled your book like to like get some info

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Speaker 1: on it, like before I was doing this, and like

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Speaker 1: you're all over the internet, like you're top ten, this

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Speaker 1: top ten thatt that's humble. So they can't afford modest,

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Speaker 1: can't afford like you know, it doesn't always translate to dollars.

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Speaker 1: Feature what's set up? Still grateful, Still grateful, waiting on

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Speaker 1: the Corevett listen. I'm really excited for people to pick

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Speaker 1: up this book. So I want to tell you a

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Speaker 1: little bit but how I found it? Um. I shop

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Speaker 1: at a bookstore called Blue Stockings, activist bookstore on the

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Speaker 1: my walk home and your cover made me like, oh ship.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even read the back of the book, but

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Speaker 1: like that was good. It says her book is called Witches,

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Speaker 1: Sluts and Feminists. I really love this book. Like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't like books with like I don't know, just

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Speaker 1: me Like I was like Zane, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: fictional like a good like ghetto Rodico type of book,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But this was just a

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Speaker 1: book that really resonated with me. And I mean Courter Million,

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Speaker 1: which is dying like all that, Like, yeah, just tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit, like why do you write this

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Speaker 1: book and what is it? Yeah? Um, So I've always

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Speaker 1: been interested in X and H alternative ways of talking

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Speaker 1: about sex and non normative sex, prescriptions against sex, the

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Speaker 1: stigma against sexuality, especially like female sexuality, um, any kind

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Speaker 1: and so that's always been an interest. I've always been

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Speaker 1: fascinated with the occult. My mom's a witch, um, but

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Speaker 1: I never really connected the two until I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like six seven years ago. I just really I started

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Speaker 1: this site called Sluttest, and that's your website. Yeah wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh no, I was about to get into your mama

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Speaker 1: being a wig. Okay, I just started. I have lots

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Speaker 1: definitely wrote this book so both types of people can

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Speaker 1: do that. You think you are maybe not in sixteen,

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Speaker 1: so there is a way to look at it if

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Speaker 1: the way women in particular have been demonized throughout history,

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Speaker 1: And oftentimes the witch was the archetype thrust upon these women,

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Speaker 1: Basically seduction absolutely, yeah, And then the opposite was true too.

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Speaker 1: she was supposed to, that could also be witchcraft. If

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Speaker 1: she's sharing information about reproduction or fertility, that could be

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Speaker 1: which is something that's definitely that you might not know.

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Speaker 1: Genital Yes, that was from Charmed, and I only know

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Speaker 1: the succubus was the man eater. That's a female sexual demon.

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Speaker 1: Now I read something where you said a quarter millie

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Speaker 1: for being quote unquote witches. No, no no, no, no, just

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Speaker 1: But it's actually there were I'm feminist in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: to like sort of even handed social scientists, maybe like two,

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Speaker 1: um fifty to two hundred thousand. But I still think

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Speaker 1: but that way, so, um, I wanted to get into

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Speaker 1: some vanilla ships. So, Kristen, it's our segment where we

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Speaker 1: talk about uh an article where we it's sex in

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Speaker 1: the news in this article, I really, why do we

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Speaker 1: be breaking down vanilla ships so difficult? It is? It's

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Speaker 1: just sex in the news, y'all. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: It's just like a news article about so it's a

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Speaker 1: Variety dot com and the headline is Terry Gillum says

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Speaker 1: world of victims. I think people did very well out

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Speaker 1: feel sorry for someone like Matt Damon, who's a decent

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Speaker 1: come on, that's crazy. Despite describing the Me Too movement

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Speaker 1: man who's sitting here impregnating all these women sitting here

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Speaker 1: showing that he's brom I'm ready to cancel Future. I

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Speaker 1: know we don't like the cancel culture, but he's one

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Speaker 1: to shut it. He shouldn't said a goddamn thing. So

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Speaker 1: you're reading that, I'm like Future rights like we're giving

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Speaker 1: was interested in your opinion in have you ever been

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Speaker 1: said you're pushing feminist culture too much? And or feminist

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Speaker 1: feminist culture is toxic? What does that mean when people

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Speaker 1: say that we're toxic feminists? I mean that's also a

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Speaker 1: popular buzzword, toxic masculinity, toxic femininity, whatever you know, and

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Speaker 1: I get it. Too much of anything, it's like a

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Speaker 1: all humans. I don't know how you can do too

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Speaker 1: much of that? Ums right, So how do we have you?

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Speaker 1: Have you had some pushback on your book being too feminist? Oh? Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's some fun like trolley right wing articles like liberals

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Speaker 1: really them being upset about? You know, people just seeing

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Speaker 1: the pay um, wage gap, or you know, maybe not

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Speaker 1: love that you're doing that. All you're doing is drawing

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Speaker 1: a line from maybe centuries ago, hundreds of years ago.

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Speaker 1: I didn't read the book. I probably will read the

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Speaker 1: book now because I'm not gonna lie like, which is

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Speaker 1: a girl again? I'll be talking about spills and ship.

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Speaker 1: We had a million or ties. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you know her, and one of our most listen to

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Speaker 1: the good root, high and like and she's dope. I

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Speaker 1: actually hit her up recently. I watched bird Box. Did

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Speaker 1: of the light, I want you to leave. And she's like,

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Speaker 1: quote chant prayer. We always assume to be different. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: we associate prayer and I do with religion, So like

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Speaker 1: helps me. Time you feel bad, I got some good

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Speaker 1: happy songs. Thing. It is all different. You know you

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Speaker 1: don't have for a movie, girl, Every time I watched

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Speaker 1: had to go to like crazy houses and stuff. They're

425
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to do that because women enjoyed sex, and I

426
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: feel like that's possibly what they are trying to do,

427
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: even in this age where right now we're not tumbler,

428
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: they're they're taking that away we're also taking away on Instagram,

429
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: so which I don't know, we're gonna have the Horrible

430
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: Decisions page much longer. But if it seems like we're

431
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: insinuating that people should go out and have sex, they're

432
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: can't saying those type of pages to Wildflower Sex is

433
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: a big Instagram that just got deleted. They got it back,

434
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's very it's horrible the you know,

435
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: what's going on with Foster Sesta and the persecution of

436
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: sex workers, and this also ties into that because um,

437
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm going back into history with the same and talking about,

438
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, the way women's sexuality and spirituality was not

439
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: thought of as you know totally uh anathema. You know,

440
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: like those things could be combined and work combined in

441
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: certain belief systems thousands of years ago, and there'll be

442
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: priestesses in these temples where you would go have sex

443
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: with them and you'd reach communion with the goddess through

444
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: having sex with them, and that's like the highest of

445
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: the highest ecstasy you could receive. And now you know

446
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: the way of sex workers are are treated and abused

447
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: and not given rights in our country and countries in

448
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: the world of course too. It's just unconscionable. And so

449
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: that's like the next step is to realize, you know,

450
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: to designatize sexuality overall means to also like treat sex

451
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: workers with the same respect and give them equal But

452
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: it's just not even only sex workers. I wanted I

453
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: wanted to bring this down to any men who are

454
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: listening who are like, man, that's not me. I want

455
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: to simplify it because it's a common thing that we

456
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: even have with this podcast, where a lot of men

457
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: I think that women don't have sex to enjoy sex.

458
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: They think that women attach all sexual acts to emotions

459
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: to where women don't cheat or if you do this,

460
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: you will how or slut because a woman attaches all

461
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: emotions to sex instead of just thinking that, hey, maybe

462
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: as a woman, I want to feel pleasure and I

463
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: want to come and even if you date it back

464
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: to the early centuries where women were just looked at

465
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: as reproductive organ like, it was looked down upon if

466
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: a woman just said, hey, I like having sex. I

467
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: like now that you're talking about that, Kristin, can you

468
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: tell us because she's saying some things that I think

469
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: you brought up with, which is like, what were things

470
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: that people. Why were you called a which what were

471
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: some of those things that you could do? One of

472
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: them you mentioned was the art of seduction or birthmarks, Like,

473
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: can you tell us some of those things? Yeah, And

474
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: just to respond to what you're saying before, I totally agree.

475
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: It's not just sex workers. That's just like you know,

476
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, the like heightened example, but all female sexuality,

477
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: all women's sexuality, is all anyone who identifies as a slut.

478
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Obviously you don't do a professional slut. You can be

479
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: a civilian slut and like you get you got a

480
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of that stigma as well. Um, yeah, and you know,

481
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: civilian slut got a stand up for the professional slots.

482
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, buil this all you totally do it. So yeah,

483
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: going back to you know, some of the same like

484
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: things that are happening to uh sluts today for just

485
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: want to enjoy pleasure consentially exactly every Roses in the book.

486
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't write you. You wrote amber Rose,

487
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh okay, and then I read

488
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: to Join the Truth and I was like, oh that's it.

489
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. So what was a witch? What

490
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: should you be a witch? For? One could be um

491
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: if you had a like a birthmark or unusual marking

492
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: where they especially in like British cases of witchcraft, because

493
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: they thought there'd be animal familiars which with these like

494
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: little demon animals often sometimes in the form of a

495
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: cat or like a goat or a rabbit, and they

496
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: would suckle on a witch's um teet or sort of

497
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: this protrusion of flat which oftentimes would be the clitterest.

498
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: So they would just you know, search a woman's body

499
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: to find something a little off and a clip would

500
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: count as they're like, oh, yeah, that she has a clip.

501
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: That's if you had a big complx. Yes, yes, if

502
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: you had a big clip, they'd be like, oh yeah,

503
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that's where the d animal demon you know, suckles and

504
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: so you're a witch. Yeah, shut the funk up. Yeah,

505
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: there's got exemas, so I'm an extra nipple anything, you know.

506
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: And so that was one and of course the search

507
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: itself is like sanctified assault by the state. You know,

508
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: there's like men searching the bodies of these women for

509
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: you know, so they really have not been known what

510
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: to do with the clip. For you it's been demonized

511
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: literally like they literally thought it was the province of

512
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: some little demon like the little fleshy area has been

513
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: four centuries. So like what about women? Okay, so what

514
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: about women's sexuality made them a witch? Yeah? Um, I guess,

515
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: you know, being too sexual, breast tips or maybe not

516
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: that I don't have any evidence was that I know

517
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: of of how body would be to deem her a

518
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: witch or not. I mean it's possible, but I don't

519
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: have the evidence for that. Just acting out of the ordinary,

520
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, in the ordinary would change depending on the

521
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: town in the you know, the country or the regions.

522
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: So all the witch hunts, it was, it differed all

523
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: over you know, all over Europe. And there were some

524
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: men obviously, I gotta say that I don't like to

525
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: spend much time talking about something. Right, it's not many

526
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: but like or women, but there are men who accused

527
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: of witchcraft as well, And oftentimes it was because they

528
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: were related to an accused female witch. Like yeah, if

529
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: your mom, your sister, your wife, you know you're probably next. Yeah,

530
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: and if you're a woman who's accused of witchcraft, but

531
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: then like acquitted, you know, sometimes you would you know,

532
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: be let off or you would you know, say yes,

533
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I I did speak to the devil, but I deny

534
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: him now, and they'd let you go and not kill you.

535
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Then you would always have this like mark on your name.

536
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: And maybe twenty years later and more witch hunts are

537
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: coming up wherever you live, then you're just, oh, my god,

538
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: is this related to the Salem witch trials at all?

539
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: So this all happened sort of leading up to, like

540
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: the Salem witch trials, so that that was influenced by

541
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: the same beliefs that were percolating for hundreds of years beforehand,

542
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: and so Salem is a little different. I don't want

543
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: to like bore every minute or some of that, but

544
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: that was a lot of this also was political. It

545
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: wasn't all about like female sexuality. Sometimes it was like

546
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: a grudge or you know, trying to um make alliances

547
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: so they would like get rid of people that way

548
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: by accusing them of witchcraft. Sale. A lot of it

549
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: was that it was not um really about female sexuality

550
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: so much. Even Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, well

551
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: I guess because I've been reading so much of that.

552
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. But we do that today. Is there

553
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: anything that we can put onto somebody to make everybody?

554
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I guess the same way we do. What do you mean, like,

555
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: if you're saying that people were doing it for for gain,

556
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: is there anything that today we could call somebody and

557
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: they could completely be exiled. I guess the pedophile, Yeah,

558
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: rapist in case basically which was up there, You'd get beheaded.

559
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: That's insane. So I wanted to bring something up. I'm

560
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned amber Rose in your book and slot walk

561
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this was your book or

562
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I read somewhere else, but I thought it was your

563
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: book where you said she used to slot chamber she

564
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: changed her tune. Yeah, that was an interview that I

565
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: read in the Guardian and I quoted her and she

566
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: said she used to call women sluts and hose in

567
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: a bad way. Okay, I like that. You fixed that

568
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: she used to go women in a bad way. Yeah,

569
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: because right now not now read that. But I only,

570
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: uh wanted to bring that up to just ask you both,

571
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: can women change their minds? And if they do and

572
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: they have because we talked about amber Rose doing it,

573
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: what's the most slut shamy thing you used to do

574
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: before you woke up? Because I'm gonna tell you mine. Okay,

575
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: I used to talk shit when I was like a

576
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: little bit younger in high school about girls that were

577
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: having sex or got fingered or anything when I was

578
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: doing it, like I would shame them, talk shit about it,

579
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: and I would do it, you know, whether it would

580
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: be like anything, I mean, oh my god, she's a

581
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: fucking whoreror like I would just I would. And I

582
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: was wondering if you guys had had a moment where

583
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: you've been like that and then you had to get comfortable,

584
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: whether it be lying about your body, cow or or anything.

585
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: So it's I'll actually say, Um, this is something even

586
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: as recent as us starting the podcast. Um, I do

587
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: still think that ho and slut are not good words.

588
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: So even with this podcast and uplifting that word, it's

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: still something that I don't want to be referred to as.

590
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: So to me, that's still kind of a slut shamy

591
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: type of mindset, because I do want to I know

592
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: that slut and ho and the words were probably created

593
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: by men just to shame women in their sexuality. And

594
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: so unfortunately, do you think that you think that way

595
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: because you know people are using those words to be hurtful,

596
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: So that's I don't think that that's necessary. You're you know.

597
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: I just did this analogy on when I was on

598
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: the Inner ho Uprising, and I said, I said, you know,

599
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: there's times where I think I want to stop saying

600
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the N word because I should be more woke. Right,

601
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I was like, because I definitely cringe when I hear

602
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the F word. But I realized why I do. It's

603
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: because nobody says my F like they say, there's never

604
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: a term term of endearment, you know what I mean?

605
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: So you know when someone what's up? What's up? Bit like,

606
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: it's not right? So like you, we can feel comfortable

607
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: with these words, right, Um, but I think that you

608
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: know when someone tries to call you that they aren't

609
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: being nice like or try to say it in a

610
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: way where it can feel hurtful. Even hate to bring

611
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: it up. But you've got an our huge argument, public

612
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: argument with about it. You know that that word what

613
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: it felt like when you heard it? Yeah? Yeah, So

614
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna count that, dann God damn take

615
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: them out. Got name me? I slowle waight um um,

616
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I would say, um, it would be more so in

617
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the realm of when I did hang around more um

618
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: sex workers. Um so growing up And I say growing up.

619
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I would say between eighteen to about twenty two, a

620
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of my friends were sex workers, um from porn stars, strippers, escorts.

621
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: I still have friends that are escorts, and so I

622
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: would say, Um, I would slesh shame the free hose.

623
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I would slut shame the girls who are out there

624
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: fucking and not getting money, or the girls who are

625
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: out there just sucking for flights, like, bitch, you sucking

626
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: for flights are Yeah. I would shame women who literally

627
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: just wanted to instead, just because all of my friends

628
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: were like, bitch, if you got a pussy, you need

629
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: to be charging. So I would literally shame the free hos.

630
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: We call it because there's paid hose and free hose,

631
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: and so I guess at that point in my life

632
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I would I would like, who didn't kind of still

633
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: do that? Like, yeah, anything out of it. Yeah. I

634
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: loved when Nina k she's a porn star who came

635
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: on and she talked about this fun threesome she had.

636
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, he flew me out. It's

637
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: from Tampa and my aunt, Well know, do you know

638
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: it's free and off sit here and say that. I

639
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: feel like I even so thinking that I used to

640
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: have that thought process yourself. No, people direct that to me.

641
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: And when I talk about pegging or the enjoyment of pegging,

642
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot of women and men be like, wait, you

643
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: do that for free? And so people want me to

644
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: charge to peg niggas. So I'd be like, I enjoyed

645
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: doing it, why would I charge? And so yeah, so

646
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: the same thing that I put out to other people like,

647
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: I get it now, but I enjoy doing that. Why

648
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: would I charge? Is the mindset? And if a woman sex,

649
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: why should she? What's yours? I think? Um, I'm trying

650
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: to think because I did go to like an all

651
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: girls school, and it was really cool to be as

652
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: slutty as possible. I'm slutty with all girls. Well, you

653
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: would like go to the all boys school or with

654
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: each other? So I grew up like I grew up

655
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: lying a lot about having done a lot of stuff

656
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I didn't do. You you're like verse, yeah, like so

657
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I would you know what? It makes sense? You wrote this? Yeah,

658
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: I went like I was going to like kink clubs

659
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: when I was a virgin. I mean, I don't even

660
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: believe in virginity, but you know what I mean, you

661
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: don't don't believe in virginia. Well, I think I don't

662
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: believe in scientistic like the whole concept of attaching some

663
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: sort of value to whether and it's all based really

664
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: on sort of like a heteronormative like you know, the

665
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: idea of a penis entering of vagina and you know,

666
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: in a woman or whatever. So I think there's a

667
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: lot of problems associating, like changing how society views you

668
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: based on if the dick has been you in you Like,

669
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: that's like that really like that and what's Crazy's a virgin?

670
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what's even with what you just said? She's

671
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: a virgin? We attached virginity too, sh yeah, right, and

672
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: so like what does virginity mean if you're queer? Like

673
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: if you're not? Like always used to ask, right, So

674
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: when I was going off, I knew I liked girls,

675
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: but didn't really play it by sexuality until a little

676
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: bit older. I always used to be so curious, like

677
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: lesbians lose it? Do they always have their virginity? Right?

678
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: And right there you go, that's totally fucked up anyway.

679
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: Besides that point, so I was still like going, I'm

680
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: loving this my home villo. That was interesting. I like that.

681
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: I think we should like spread that to the huge virginity.

682
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Virginity is not a thing anyway, so um, yeah you

683
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: would about I was like fifteen, and I would still

684
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: be like a virgin. So I think for me it

685
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: was like thinking you had to do that's not really

686
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: what you're asking, but just like no, no, no, that's

687
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: good if you have to be the reverse st I

688
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: don't know that that you're you're really uncool or being

689
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: a prude or terrible if you want to say no.

690
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: So that was a thing for me because I thought

691
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I consent. Obviously, I'm like thirty six, so consent was

692
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: not like a thing. I like, yeah, sent was not

693
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: like a thing you just like, do I want to

694
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: do it to you say okay, or you're uncool. So

695
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: that was why the way D c okay for the

696
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Women's parch I was that the original, but I'll probably

697
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: be at the New York one was the original DC.

698
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: I do have a now a question. You brought up

699
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: um Satan and the political rebellion, and I was like,

700
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, because I'm already scared after the broad Box.

701
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: But then I found it very interesting that Satan is

702
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: or sat didn't mention really worshiping the devil because I

703
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: thought Satan was the devil. Now they're feminist, Can you

704
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: explain that? Yeah, I'm sure, And I know that there

705
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: are people who, you know, worship a devil in the

706
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: sense that you know, preachers and Christianity says they have

707
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: for religious reasons, right, But I've never met those people whatever.

708
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: But today there are groups of people who identify as Satanists.

709
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: But Satan is like an archetype and icon of being,

710
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: like the eternal rebel, So they take the God right,

711
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: they take ideas of Satan from literature, uh in the past.

712
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: So basically it's Satan as this sort of you know,

713
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: kind of nontraditional bad boy answer christ right and and

714
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: and against um, you know, following these rules that like

715
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: the Christian Church is have set up for us. So

716
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I've been conditioned to be scared, right, So there's nothing

717
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: scary about those Satanists at all. But of course when

718
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: they do things, people still come out to protest because

719
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: they think they're drinking the blood of babies or this

720
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and that. But there's a lot more ethics involved in

721
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Satanism than I would say in a lot of Christianity

722
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: right now. Overall, as far as you know, bodily autonomy,

723
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: they believe they have different tenants. You know, there's different

724
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: like Satanic groups, so there's not just one. So they

725
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: all sort of go about their Satanism Satanism in a

726
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: different way. But um, a lot of it is just

727
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: based on individuality, individual rights and you know, fighting for

728
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: other people's rights in your community. When I saw that

729
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: with Satanist, I was like, so they really you're frightening

730
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: black people all right? Like that ship really fucked me up.

731
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Like Satanist in the Political I thought that was a

732
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: really cool chapter. Um. I also I am curious to

733
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: know you said your mom's a witch? What's a witch?

734
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Right now? So many things and that because Amelia is

735
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: a blue hob but she's not a bad person. But

736
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: like you're wearing black eyeliner right now, and Fishness liked this.

737
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I know what I'm just saying, Like that's what you

738
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: think is God, which like because that know, but the

739
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: aesthetics there's a big crossover, oy okay, because you know,

740
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: God aesthetics come from sort of session like you have

741
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of like a cap ball, but it's not a

742
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: cap scarf. What is it cape? Like a bandana? I know,

743
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: you know there was I should be wearing. Is that

744
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: a scarf? Maybe? I can't wait till we post a

745
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: picture of us. I wish I had want something more dramatic. Um.

746
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: But as far as what a witch is today, that

747
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: really that answer can be anyone. There are so many

748
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: different ways people to find which and people practice witchcraft.

749
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: You know there are Christian witches, Jewish witches, Atheist witches,

750
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: um Wickan witches. But you knew practice. What is it

751
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: you teach an annual? You have an annual witch I

752
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: have a I have a charity festival. Actually I haven't

753
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: done it in a year because oh no. So basically, Glenda, Um, yeah,

754
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: So basically the proceeds from the st of all go

755
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: to the Rape, Abuse and Incests National Network, because I'm

756
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: sort of tying this lineage of you know, people persecuted

757
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: for supposedly practicing which craft in the past to you know,

758
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: the abuse of women. So and I wanted to I

759
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. So when um you posted the

760
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: book and I started commenting back and forth with some

761
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: of our followers, they started saying, even some of the

762
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: spells that still go on today, So it's a myth.

763
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a myth or what. Maybe

764
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: it's voodoo. Um period blood going in spaghetti, which is

765
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: why there's a myth that you're not supposed to eat

766
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: everyone spaghetti. Have you heard of this? Not heard that one?

767
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's a king in in his like in

768
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: his drink or something. Apparently the period, the period blood

769
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: in the spaghetti is supposed to make him love you forever. Okay,

770
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of fun folk magic spells that I wouldn't

771
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: necessarily know, but like my mom had her own group

772
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: of spells to line growing up that she would, you know,

773
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: teach me that were based on like Catholic folk magic.

774
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember Catholic folk magic? Yeah, so you know,

775
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: obviously there's like the Catholic Church, but then there's the

776
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: regular folk and there's a long running tradition of like, um,

777
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: people who are Catholic, like you know, the way like

778
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: in like Haiti, Let's say a lot of people are Catholic,

779
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: but they're also practice food practices too, you know, so

780
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. So they'd be like Catholic folk magic,

781
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: where you have to believe all the things in the Bible,

782
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: but then you also do all these other things like

783
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: maybe peeing in someone's tea or you know, my mom

784
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: would like take a statue of St. Joseph and buried

785
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: upside down in the in the front of the house

786
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: if she wanted to sell the house to get it,

787
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: like you know, when she was moving like a superstitious exactly.

788
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: So that's like kind of like the folk magic and

789
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: something else like shipping in someone's lawn, like taking a

790
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: ship and burying it. Yeah, it's supposed to like take

791
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: away their prosperous. Amelia told me, like, if you want

792
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: to get rid of someone and shut them the funk up,

793
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: you take their picture, you write a name on it,

794
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: you put it in a cup, you pee, put a

795
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: little pee in the cup right, you close it, seal it,

796
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: put aluminum foil around it. So if they try to

797
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: get out, it goes back in and you freeze them.

798
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: You put them on a stuff in my freezer. Plenty

799
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: of things. What um. Maybe she can say no, I

800
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: don't want to like, I don't want to say I

801
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: don't say that. People just like, yeah, yeah, it's just

802
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: like what is your house girl? The way back at

803
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: the charity festival, Like you know, you wanna like cut

804
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: ties with someone and that's that's what you call. Or

805
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: there's like someone you want someone to like have sweet

806
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: feelings for you, and like, what's that one that's like

807
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: pouring honey on You can even write someone's name if

808
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: it's of paper and pour honey on it and tie

809
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: it up and instagram it. What if I don't know

810
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: the whole name Instagram name work, I think so it

811
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: is modern day, which it is. Actually I have a

812
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: friend who like anoints her phone before sleeping on Tinder.

813
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of shu raised that the digital interest.

814
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: So if you like, let's say I have this Jezebel

815
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: oil that my friends, you know, who do you want?

816
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: Who do you want? Because I'm about to go to

817
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: who I want some fine a French black pep you

818
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait? Who oh? I thought she was about to say,

819
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: let's go come on. So yeah, I am not an

820
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: herbologist or like I don't make oils, but I have

821
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: friends who do. So let's say, like I have my friends, um,

822
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: you know love oil or love draw oil or Jezebel oil,

823
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: like you could anoint your phone like all four you know,

824
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: corners and yeah, there's so many ways to do on

825
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: all four corners. Because this is who I want. His

826
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: name is Ruby lisch Um. He's a soccer player, but

827
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: this is who I want. He's so got kill. So

828
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: what do I do to get him to Just DM

829
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: me bet because that's all I mean, Because the thing

830
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: is one of the most The best kind of witchcraft

831
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: is the kind of like you like feel that is authentic.

832
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: You haven't if you do something that like you think

833
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: is just from some dusty ol book or not, and

834
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: you think it's dumb, it's not gonna work. So you

835
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: have to do something that feels like right, I'm masturbated

836
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: to him. That sex magic we got to talk about,

837
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: I think from sex magic. This book deal came from

838
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: and I got another book deal recently from more sex magic. Wait,

839
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: what is that? Come on magic? Sex magag Like witchcraft,

840
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: sex magic means a lot of things and a lot

841
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: of different traditions. Like I'm not initiated into a tradition.

842
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: I have my own like ship that I just learned

843
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: from family stuff and just from friends and what felt

844
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: right to me and some other people like really like

845
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: a serious qualified path that you know, other people have

846
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: written books about and have you know, you know, sacred

847
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: text that's not for me. That's too close to like

848
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: organized religion for me. So there's no sacred texts in

849
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: my world. You know. I go with my intuition and

850
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: what works, you know, and it's all sort of still

851
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: working with nature and nature based ship. But the digital

852
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: is obviously important. That world is what we live in.

853
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: But so shakrabs, you're talking about Crystal egg, bro, I

854
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: need them to sponsor us. I love Vanessa, you know,

855
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: she's in the book. Oh my god, bro, like it

856
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: would be perfect. She would I'm sure I moved one

857
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: with someone else. Her and I were like, it was amazing,

858
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: but I don't want to like puppets. But but even

859
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: even talking about it, so we kind of slightly brought

860
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: it up with Amelia who mentioned kind of just crystals

861
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: and how they really and us saying the importance that

862
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: this isn't y'all going out buying crystals and show no,

863
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: do not do that. No, No, that was like poked

864
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: me before. Yeah, so sex magic and chak rubs even

865
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: you're saying, yeah, so I used a chak rub. I

866
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: used to do my own sex magic without anything else.

867
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I realized I was doing sex

868
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: magic without knowing and how I would masturbate and like

869
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: think about things and envisioned goals and things, and it

870
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: would happen. It would happen masturbating like thinking about a

871
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: new job, kind of like about the feeling like like

872
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: like um, just like walking into a room feeling like

873
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: powerful or whatever. Sometimes there'd be you'd be thinking about

874
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: a person too while you're jacking off or whatever, but

875
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: sort of having this goal oriented practice or like thinking

876
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: about raising certain types of feelings, or like a hot

877
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: outfit you're wearing and you feel so powerful and sensual

878
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: in that moment. Oh my god, Kristen, I'm masturbated in

879
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: the suit I was wearing for the job I got.

880
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: And I was just really really horny that day. But

881
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: I didn't do it with intent. I just you still

882
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: were wearing. I felt really good in the suit. I

883
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: masturbated and it was like, oh, like it just felt

884
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: so good, and then you got the job I did. There,

885
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: you go, that's the same thing. It doesn't have to

886
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: always be like conscious like that, you know what I mean? So, yeah,

887
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: I I met a friend who was a creative director

888
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: for a publishing house, and I told her I teach

889
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: a class based on this at the new school. So

890
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: I just about that and then she's like, oh, maybe

891
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: you should do a book proposal or whatever. But I

892
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I didn't know if I was

893
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: going to get it. So I thought, Okay, I really

894
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: need to make this ship happen. You know. I even

895
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: had a friend like carve a candle for me with

896
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: like and I you know, put all my intentions into

897
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: into that. And it was a full moon and I

898
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: had my shock rub and it was a pink of

899
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: rose Courts one, a pink one because it was for

900
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: like self love to really just like get into put

901
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: rose Court sometimes totally. Or you could do like I've

902
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: also done with Obsidian, to like get rid of all

903
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: the negative feelings you might have about something, to set

904
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: you free to like really get the next day because

905
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm really scared about my ask there you go, I'm

906
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: sitting in my booty, I kind of I'm sitting there.

907
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I did it. And then um, the day

908
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I press send on the proposal, I did my ritual,

909
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, jerked off with my chakrab. A month later,

910
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: on the next full moon, I got an email of

911
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: saying you have it, so you basically fucked yourself into

912
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: my hands. Uh wow, people can And I actually teach

913
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: a class with a friend of mine. It's a sex

914
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: and color magic class on how do you use like color?

915
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: Like you said, your your outfit, I only like black cock.

916
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: That what you like saying the word cock. But when

917
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I put black front, that's what I like. So we're

918
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: not you know, we are not trying to up your

919
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: book deal. Let me shut up. So not colored people,

920
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: but color your bedspread or your sheets, or the room,

921
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the color you paint your room with, the outfit you wear,

922
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: the lingerie while you're jerking off. But okay, it's always black.

923
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: My sheets are always all white, and then my clothes

924
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: are always all black. Same, what do I need to change?

925
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: You know, all different colors have a different sort of

926
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: energetic frequency and they also mean different things. And so

927
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: if you money, let's say green. Okay, so you want

928
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: some money. I had a friend who was always like, yeah,

929
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: when you know, jerk off, like, get some some greenery,

930
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: like some live plants, you know, some fresh green, you know,

931
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: and obviously imagine like green exploding and falling on you

932
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: or money, you know, when you're when you reach climaxes

933
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: kind very like a red red light and the moment's

934
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: supposed to bring more sexual Actually I didn't hear about

935
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: that because my daddy jam Makan, and he had a

936
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: red light. And when that red light was on, I

937
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: stayed away from the bedroom. Do you remember that. I

938
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: swear to guy. I was like, daddy, why are your

939
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: light red? And then we ended up talking and I'm like,

940
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: my daddy, we're not going into the room when the

941
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: lightbulb is red because I'm not trying to have what

942
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: is it called When the water humidifier thing it glows,

943
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: I put the oils in it. So sometimes I changed

944
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: the color, like I noticed what I want, like a

945
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: little bit of softer sex. It's like that light blue.

946
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: But I don't know I were cractic like color and

947
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: sex magic? Right, Oh my god, a witch. I knew

948
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: it was right now. Okay, So I want to play

949
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: the game really quick only with you. Basically, I just

950
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: called and I want to say a name, and you

951
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: just tell me about what's going on from your book.

952
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: So first one is Titchuba, the Black Salem witch who then,

953
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: is that one of the first three women accused of

954
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: witchcraft in Salem, and she was the only black woman

955
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: accused of witchcraft. Actually her racist ambiguous ambiguous, Sorry that's

956
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: what I was. But some people think she was an

957
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: indigenous woman umm Barbados, and some people think she was

958
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: I thought write. So it's still not known the documents.

959
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: It's because her last name was Indian, so they don't

960
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: because she also could have been married to an indigenous

961
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: man and his like they would call him John Indian

962
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: was her husband's name, So they don't really know. Why

963
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: was she so famous though she's so famous because releas no,

964
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: there's no, there's not really a sexual aspect to her

965
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: someone else but um, well, actually know the reason why

966
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: you're thinking it is because in actual historical like sense

967
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: that we know of, she was just accused of, um

968
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: being a witch and she came out and said, uh, yeah,

969
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: I saw all these other women in town doing witchy

970
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: shipped too with the double so they were trying to

971
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: funk with her, and she funked with them back and

972
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: she survived. She actually did not get put to death,

973
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: so that but we don't really know according to history

974
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: what happened to her. But there was this book that

975
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I write about by Marie Conde, which is I Titch

976
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: of a Black Witch of Salem and totally story. Yeah,

977
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: and Tichi was a totally like sex positive witch, uh,

978
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: and she ends up getting to Salem through of you know,

979
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of uh strange mishaps. And she is like

980
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: a slut in the best sense of the word. She's

981
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: always trying to tell the like the white Puritan women

982
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: she's around, to like not be so fucking uptight, and

983
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: sex is not of the devil, but like a natural, human,

984
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: beautiful experience. So that I like that. We have no

985
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: proof that that that's real, but it was a great

986
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: like part of no. I like that. So the second one,

987
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: which I feel like some of us should we should know.

988
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Dinner Party, the installation

989
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: at the Brooklyn Museum, of course, the ship So Join

990
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Your Truth was in it. If you guys don't know

991
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: what it is, I'm gonna try to describe it. It's

992
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: in the shape of a pussy, like really in my head,

993
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: it's a triangle, right, and it's all these plates and

994
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: it basically shows you in the version of I don't

995
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: know a dinner plate what their pussy would look like.

996
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: For example, Georgia O'Keefe, the artist we know with flowers,

997
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: her pussy looked like a flower. And UM, so join

998
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: your truth was on there. Can you tell us who

999
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: that is if we don't know? Yes, So she was

1000
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: um formerly a slave and then was emancipated and um

1001
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: was a great orator and basically went around and these

1002
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: beautiful impassioned speeches to like hundreds of people about the

1003
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: realities of black women and enslaved women, and basically was

1004
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: shaking up the suffragist movement at the time when a

1005
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of the suffragists are super racist and saying, yeah,

1006
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: women's rights only for white women. But this was also good, sister.

1007
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: Journal Truth was someone that I learned in school a long,

1008
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: very long time ago. Um. And they even so there's

1009
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: a festival in Eatonville, Florida, UM called the Zorneil Hurst

1010
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: and Festival. So so journal Truth was also with her

1011
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: UM means of or rating and speaking and writing for people.

1012
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: It meant a lot because of course, as you guys know, education, writing,

1013
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: those things were not given to slaves, let alone women. UM.

1014
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: So she actually, yeah, was very known during I'm not

1015
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: gonna say civil rights movement or anything like that because

1016
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: it was far well before that time, but it was yeah,

1017
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: but as a woman coming out being able to hold

1018
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: those type of like it's not the first first black

1019
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: city in in Florida, that's right, okay, Um, and it's

1020
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: in Orlando, Florida, which is where we're from. So but yeah,

1021
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: all of that, and she was accused of being a

1022
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: witch and she actually won a court case and got

1023
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: money for it because people said you were a witch

1024
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm not in the sense of

1025
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: the term back then, which yeah. So the third one

1026
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: I have in there, Um, you wrote something about after

1027
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King died, the Witches of NYC started What

1028
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: the fuck? Oh? I think I was just setting context

1029
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: for like what was happening in the world. It wasn't

1030
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: like a direct response, but it was that they were

1031
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: protesting activist group called the Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell,

1032
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: which is which w t H and UM. They dressed

1033
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: up as witches and would do these like sort of

1034
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: protests like guerrilla theater like you know, um performance art

1035
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: slash protests like they hext the New York City stock exchange.

1036
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: None of them as far as I know, really believe

1037
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: I do rooms around when they're they're sort of like

1038
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: using a witch as a feminist mascot in a way.

1039
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: So dude, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like after

1040
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: reading your book, I really wanted because well even them

1041
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: having the brooms are dressing up like that's all. That's

1042
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: also just the narrative idea of what we think of

1043
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: a witch. Like even if we look at the witches

1044
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: and the Wizard of Oz and you know, the good witch,

1045
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: bad witch, but that which had the point, he had

1046
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: the point, you know, I want the point. What's funny

1047
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: about Mandy saying this is before when you sat down,

1048
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Mandy was like, I just want to you know, I

1049
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: don't like but like you get woke now I'm getting awoke.

1050
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Always a wait, Well, there's just so many ways to

1051
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: talk about the witch as a figure and an archetype.

1052
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: And like my dad being a super atheist, you know,

1053
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: he would think so much of this is like bullshit.

1054
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: But when it's couching this like political, you know sense

1055
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: there's like a real history that I think it's important,

1056
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: so that like how it ties to back to just

1057
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: sexuality and feminism just essentially men not wanting to allow

1058
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: a woman to be a woman, explain the woman body, um,

1059
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: and not just allow us to feel those same things

1060
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: in the same orgasms that men get to us. So

1061
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: I think it's and I like how you tie that

1062
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: into again the slut shaming what we're dealing with. You

1063
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: brought up she wrought up Hillary Um with the burner

1064
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: at the stake thing, and I just love them, Like, basically,

1065
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: whiches are now sluts and feminists and it's the same ship.

1066
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Are they any other black feminists that you think we

1067
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: should all know about or rejoice in? I know, our

1068
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: modern day one we could say is like an Amber Rose.

1069
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: You brought up her slat walk and how important it is,

1070
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: But like, are there any other ones that you think

1071
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: should be maybe highlighted or not as well known. I

1072
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: mean she's well known, but in a different way. Bree

1073
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Luna who runs the Hood, which oh I think she's

1074
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: super inspiring, badass, which she had her own room at

1075
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine Rooms. Yeah's killing it. She's also an awesome

1076
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: person and super funny and creative and what she don't

1077
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: know her name? So with her with her business and

1078
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: like building the visibility of you know, a different like

1079
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: way we see the witch because a lot of you know,

1080
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: Hollywood films, at least TV, which is are white and

1081
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: you know that you follow the hood witch, and that

1082
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: is like not the way real witches are. Real witches

1083
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: are every different type of like actually trying, dude, I'm

1084
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: trying to pay a black witch switch. I'm trying to

1085
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: think too in pop culture. Yeah, yeah, I mean, now

1086
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: there's like like The Vampire Diaries had some and you

1087
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: know it's not as many either American story that whole oay,

1088
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: is there anything else? But yeah, it's really Actually the

1089
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: odds was it was so but the Black One and

1090
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: there was a black witch in that damn. I mean

1091
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I get. I mean technically yeah, apart from American. So

1092
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: every week we get homeml right, which is basically our

1093
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: listener um questions that they send in. And I wanted

1094
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: to read this one. Hella, ladies, I don't even know

1095
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: how to start this. Hope it makes none the show. Um,

1096
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: so she wrote twice, but like, please read this on

1097
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: your show. Happy New Year. I love it. You guys

1098
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: are going strong in your lives. It gives me hope.

1099
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: For the women Empowerment movement. Thank you. So my home

1100
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: mail is that I want to be more sexually open

1101
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: and try things like a three summer, even using toys,

1102
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: or just being more of a freak overall. I grew

1103
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: up in a church strong and forced home, both with

1104
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: my mom and dad, so so all of that wasn't

1105
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: the lord was banished. Now I was a woman in

1106
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: my thirties, I've had sex, of course, and I have

1107
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: two partners, one male and female. Now. I was with

1108
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: a woman in college for three years and it was bad.

1109
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: I felt verbally emotional abuse, cheated on, used, And now

1110
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: that I'm with a man, we have connections about sex,

1111
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: and I do feel bad that I'm not into trying

1112
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: anything new, including toys, lube, watching porn. My question is

1113
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: whether there's something I should do to be more open

1114
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: or should I leave him, basically because it's not happening

1115
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: with him real quick. I have a young sister who

1116
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: went for our way to college and she did nothing

1117
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: but white men. We're a black family, by the way.

1118
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: My mom kicked her out of the house years ago

1119
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and she checked my sister's email in front she was

1120
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: sending nudes to white man I've never tried pink talk,

1121
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: and I was interested, but that situation, my two sister

1122
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: and my mom put me off. Any advice would be great,

1123
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: keep up the show. I feel like she brought that

1124
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: up because we assume that, like white guys are like

1125
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: into freaky st like, bitch, why do we have a

1126
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: show like I mean, we're trying to. I mean, I'm

1127
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, and I've said it more times than not.

1128
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: I've never been with pink dick. I've only been sorry

1129
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: because you're white. I don't know already. Okay, I'm sorry.

1130
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to marry it, but I've never I

1131
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: never had so like so like all of these sexual

1132
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: experiences that I've had and y'all know, y'all call me

1133
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: like the freakiest, like it's so nasty, but they've all

1134
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: been with black men. So I think it is a

1135
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: opening up. If unfortunately he's telling you he's not into

1136
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: this again, I think communication is super big. Maybe you

1137
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: tell any even know if you're bringing it up it

1138
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: sounds like it doesn't sound like you're not bringing it up,

1139
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: but you can start off small ways. Be like, listen, babe,

1140
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: I came across this porn and it's kind of wild,

1141
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: but look at it and kind of just gauge what

1142
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: he thinks about easy, I think definitely. I wanted to

1143
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: really read this with you because I feel again like

1144
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: religion kind of puts that back on us, and I

1145
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: wanted to ask specifically because maybe she needs to hear

1146
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: it and it's not a direct answer to her, but like,

1147
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: how does religion really shape the way we think about sex?

1148
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: And how can it then factor in later? Like what

1149
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: does it do to us? Well? Most like monotheistic religions

1150
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: demonized sex, particularly for women and before marriage, right, So

1151
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: if you're like born into that, it's really really hard

1152
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: to like deprogram your mind and it's a you know,

1153
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: constant process you have to go through, and you should

1154
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: be like give yourself a break too for not knowing

1155
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: like where to turn or how to go forward. I

1156
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: think that's awesome that someone would come out and ask

1157
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: those questions, because it's a super it's brainwashing, you know.

1158
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: So I don't think you should feel bad if you

1159
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: grew up like they. You can't help it. You can't

1160
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: can't help how you're born. I did an episode on

1161
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: our Patreon which one of my best friends on their

1162
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: James talks about Yeah, well, he calls his evangelist like family,

1163
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: which is great, but he says, you know, like my

1164
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: mom would cut out pictures of breast like cleavage in newspapers.

1165
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: He's like, I jerked off for the first time and

1166
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what happened, what came out of me.

1167
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, like everything about sex. I was fucked

1168
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: up because of this fucking bullshit, you know, religion that

1169
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: I went through and how it just made me feel

1170
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: like everything was bad. He said that he even hurt

1171
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: in church once. You shouldn't jerk off because it'll make

1172
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: you gay from touching dick. And even though that's extreme,

1173
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: that's very extreme. Just I feel like her saying religion

1174
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: was in our home. I feel like that's what makes

1175
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: it so scary to then bring it up, because even

1176
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: talking about it is wrong. That same, yeah, wanting to

1177
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: do anything sexual in some ways wrong in the back

1178
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: of your mind maybe, or even bringing it back to

1179
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: where we sit here and demonize women for wanting to

1180
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: have sex or experiencing sex, and then if they lose

1181
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: it before or marriage, now you're tarnished. Now, you're soiled.

1182
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Now you're bad goods. So even to grow up in

1183
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, that type of environment where that's your mindset,

1184
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: I can get where now it may be even hard

1185
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: for her to say maybe I kind of want to

1186
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: try kicky things, but maybe it's hard not even knowing

1187
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: how to express it herself. That's maybe it's just in

1188
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: her head. So if she feels like he won't do

1189
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: it with it, if she can't say the words. Because

1190
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: we have so many questions, we get like this, what

1191
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 1: would be your advice to someone that can't blatantly say

1192
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: what they want? What are other ways to be inventive

1193
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: with sex or asked for things that you want rather

1194
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: than just being like I want you to fuck my

1195
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: throat because they don't really know yet, Because that like

1196
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: figuring it out what you want first is important, right,

1197
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: So I think that is like all in the realm

1198
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: of fantasy, and that could be done with like like

1199
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: a masturbation challenge, you know, like if you sit with

1200
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: yourself and like make yourself, you know, pleasure yourself without

1201
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: right just like what I like that? What comes to

1202
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: your mind? What do you like? That's theright thing to do?

1203
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: So then over a month, like write down all the

1204
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: things that come up and then try them in real life,

1205
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: or at least you know, decide if that's something you

1206
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: want to broach or even I don't know how old

1207
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: she is, but something that works when I'm dating someone

1208
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: or when I'm trying to get to know how kinky

1209
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: someone is, I say, let's play the game twenty one questions.

1210
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: You never really get to twenty one questions, but then

1211
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: it just opens the dialogue like, let's not even limit

1212
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: what we can ask, but it's twenty one questions. How

1213
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: would you answer this? And so it's gauging what's really

1214
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: kinky to you? Would you try this? Um? This came

1215
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: to mind? Have you ever watched this type of porn?

1216
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: And so you turn it into a game to where

1217
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: you can even start off by saying, some of these

1218
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: things I've never done, but I just want to know

1219
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: what your what your take is on it. So then

1220
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: you turn it into just something kind of whimsical and

1221
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: kind of childish. But now you're not you know, saying that,

1222
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: oh I'm into because honest really fun. I had a

1223
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: guy I dated one said I knew wouldn't be for

1224
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: me because he said I laughed during sex, And you

1225
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: thought that was just respectful. It was a Slovenian guy.

1226
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: What church or something. He was like, I don't know.

1227
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: That really made me uncomfortable. I like, do you know

1228
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: much funny ship happens during sex? Think about when you're

1229
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: switching positions and like you're like, oh, fun Like how

1230
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: can I not laugh a little? I laughed every time

1231
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I'd be laughing, dude, I'd be laughing when I'm like

1232
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: all right, I'm done right, And I don't think that

1233
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: the last time I laughed really hard during sex, me

1234
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: and Scissors were having sex and we're using this like

1235
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: double dong. We put it down, I'm going down on her,

1236
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: we pick it back up and because jelly, all his

1237
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: hair is stuck to it, and I'm like, bitch, between

1238
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: your and my fucking we've look at this like, yeah,

1239
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: I think the last time I laughed during sex was, Um,

1240
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say why because yeah, I'm but he came.

1241
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: I asked him, and oh, I think I talked about

1242
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: this on a Patreon episode. So I asked him to

1243
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: come on my face. That's kind of what I asked,

1244
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: but he shot out like I as I was saying,

1245
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: to come on my face so I missed the closing

1246
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: my eye part and it went in my eye and

1247
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because I'm literally like this and I'm like,

1248
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: you came in mind. And he thought it was the

1249
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: funniest thing. And I'm like I just got my lashes

1250
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: done and he's laughing, but I'm like, no, nigodies was

1251
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: eighty dollars and I but oh my god, Christ And

1252
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, someone wrote in right and was like, oh,

1253
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to know if you guys could like debunk

1254
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: this question. But somebody came in my eye and I

1255
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: swear I could feel it swim and we talked about before. Yeah,

1256
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: we talked about this. Yeah, and really literally we sat

1257
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: here and was talking about she thought there was it was,

1258
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: but then it happened to me after like, oh I

1259
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: feel it. I feel the last time what happened, I

1260
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: was pretty drunk and there was like I was also

1261
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: really hungry, and so it was kind of like a

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: late night you know, like meet up and I had.

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01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: It was at my place and there was like a

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: bag of chip next to the bed and I was

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: and I'm on top and I'm like, you did not

1266
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: start eating just while he was oh, my god, Oh

1267
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: my god. Do you watch Insecure? Yes? Do you remember

1268
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: when she was eating the She's like, oh, yes, I'm

1269
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: not in the fun I'm not like super into food

1270
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: and sex. But I was just super drunk and it

1271
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: was like he's a funny guy and we laughed together

1272
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: a lot, and I was like, I'm just gonna he

1273
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, and I was like, you know what,

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. I would love when someone to

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: laugh at that, Like, no, I like that really doesn't

1276
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: even think of It's because when you do other things

1277
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: while having sex, like I'm not gonna lie for me

1278
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: having sex, don't watch TV because then likens like there's

1279
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: certain things like like I like when my nigga smokes

1280
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: his blunt while I'm sucking his dick. But I don't

1281
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: like if he's watching TV while I'm sucking. But I

1282
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: feel like the funny way when I'm going down. I

1283
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: love when people are on the phone. I'm gonna I'm

1284
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: trying to keep a straight the okay, not like a

1285
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: business call, but like even like it makes it even

1286
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: better get those spreadsheets over, huh. I love like let

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: your mama call you while I'm like that. I love

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: you already talked about admitting incests. Okay, so not really

1289
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: like that, but I like for him to try to

1290
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: keep a straight face and make it sense, like, okay, mom,

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: let me call you back. I'm a little busy. I

1292
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I like that. It's to answer your question

1293
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: about pink sick. Listen, I will tell you that I

1294
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: used to say that. I thought like when I first

1295
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: started dating white guys, I was like, Okay, they're freakier. No,

1296
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: I just think there's this all around weird thing where

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: with black men and women, we feel like we can't

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01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: say it, so we kind of just wait for it

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: to happen, whereas I don't know why that's just our thing,

1300
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: whereas with white guys, he had to just happen, where

1301
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: guys would tell me what I liked, quicker, faster, or

1302
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: asked to try things with me where they didn't really

1303
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: have to figure. My guys aren't saying that, so you

1304
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: stick a figure in there, and they moved that little

1305
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: butt so you could stick mowing there exactly, but you're

1306
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: not saying it, So like you're right. I like that.

1307
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: It's it's really true because I was like, initially, like

1308
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: white guys freaker, but like they're not right, It's just

1309
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: you can just talk about it more, right, because I

1310
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: think there's another thing of like black men maybe not

1311
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: even wanting to be quote unquote disrespectful, right, Like there's

1312
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: that big thing around there where like we want to

1313
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: make sure like we I don't know, I feel like

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I don't know if you can agree, Kristen,

1315
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: but like I felt like it was cooler for like

1316
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: white girls at my school to be slats over like

1317
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: the black girls. Like I feel like it was, Yeah,

1318
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: there's way more like ability to be a slat and

1319
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: then go be like a respected member of society. Like

1320
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: it's not that like double stigma totally. It didn't feel

1321
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: like classes an issue too. You know, Yes, more money

1322
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: have the why do you are the easier it is

1323
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: to be like I'm slut and then still be treated

1324
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: like a human. Yes, when I was on Van Strow,

1325
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: I was saying it, but I couldn't articulate. It was

1326
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: in my head, but I couldn't figure out what I was.

1327
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: But I really have felt like that, Like I felt

1328
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: like with my white friends they would get excited about it,

1329
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: and with like black girls, it was just like I

1330
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: can never like for sure sucking dick. Y'all's name's Becky

1331
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: with a good head like its White girls like y'all

1332
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: are praise it, like being able to sethnicity. I'm guessing

1333
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: you know how to give good head. Unfortunately with with

1334
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: black girls like that stigma has been to wear you

1335
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: still stick too good? How No, either that or maybe

1336
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: black girls don't give his good head because you can't

1337
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: touch their hair. They don't want their hair touched and

1338
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: things like that around black women sucking dick compared to

1339
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: white girls putting that shir up in a polltail and

1340
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: just going at it. There's a meme we posted today

1341
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: with like you sucking the soul out of him with

1342
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: your wig off, Like I'm sorry, but I had to

1343
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: really get around like only with white guys and I

1344
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: don't care, like having a sew in and being like

1345
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: are they going to touch my braids and feel weird?

1346
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: And now oh I don't and I should be blending,

1347
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: and then maybe i'd be like just so you notice

1348
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: saying a mine. Then when they get the feeling and

1349
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: I know that they're confused because I have guys that

1350
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: like go to pull it and then I feel them

1351
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: like touching and yes it's a sewing. You want to

1352
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: keep sucking your dick or not, you can touch it, like,

1353
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: but I think that some of them think it's my

1354
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: natural hair until they go do the hold on white

1355
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: girls got clippings and they do they do. I hate

1356
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: what is it? You'll be taping your hair and no

1357
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: tape micro beating. But she's like, okay, back about listeners

1358
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,919
Speaker 1: know where they can find you, where they can possibly

1359
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: get your book if you have any other books for

1360
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: them to read if they like, which is fus feminists?

1361
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: What else? Um can our listeners do to get you?

1362
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: Find me on Instagram? It's Christian Corvette Corvette with a

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: K in descript enough here we're gonna put her book title,

1364
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: her Instagram, her site, and we'll also tag it um yeah,

1365
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: um yeah, I have a new book coming out next

1366
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: fall is like kind of a part two but evolving.

1367
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: How um cats actually have been coded as these like

1368
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: hyper sexual bee line entity? Yeah, why do we call

1369
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: it a pussy? Like? Why is it? You know? Why

1370
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: are women caddy? Like? What are all these associations with

1371
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: cats and sex and women? And like if you look

1372
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: on like the stock room. Let's say, just like you

1373
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: guys are y'all friends. So this whole just made me

1374
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: do a whole episode on animals with six animals, haven't

1375
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: But we came from like all this bull about animals.

1376
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: Fucking God. May have or may not have listened to

1377
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 1: that episode yet, but we did a whole fucking episode

1378
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: about animals, sucking bro. But no, for for real, they'll

1379
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: like think about the cat emoji. How it's got like

1380
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: the like it looks hotter? Yeah, why do we think

1381
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: cats wire cats? Let's so that's basically and also there's

1382
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: there's a history and also at the time of the

1383
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: witch trials, many cats were also put to death and

1384
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 1: like associated the black cat right or the cat lady archetype,

1385
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: you know all these like weird cats and women associations

1386
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: like dogs or men cats or women, Like why what

1387
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: is it? Like? So that's my next catt Yeah it's

1388
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: called cat call. Uh reclaiming the feral feminine. Okay, so

1389
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: we gotta read that one, and then next fall is

1390
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: no like this yeah yeah you know, well, I mean

1391
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: until then we brought your book. Do you do any

1392
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: like talks? I do talks, um, I do events and

1393
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: like I post about them all on my Instagram. Mostly

1394
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: have a website. That's boring, and one goes to a

1395
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: website right, not anymore. We bought the domain, but we

1396
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: ain't even posted yet, Like I'm on word for us

1397
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: to start it was effort. No, it's a ton. You

1398
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: gotta get the graphics. It's just a lot. But how

1399
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: what's the proper way to buy your book to put

1400
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: money in your pocket? Let's talk about that. I do

1401
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: usually sell it. I just sold out, but I will

1402
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: replenish and I sell No, but the things, no, no, no, no,

1403
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: it's buy my own books from the publisher. It's kind

1404
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: of weird, you know, I know how that said. Yeah,

1405
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: it's not can you have to buy a high number?

1406
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: So sometimes I don't actually have the money to buy

1407
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: my own books to sell. But you can get it

1408
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: on like indie bound or the Strand or Amazon if

1409
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: you're not against Amazon. The Strand gets you good money.

1410
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: Strand is good the Strand. If you one hunts, you

1411
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: get paid out. Okay, Amazon, it's fine on my website

1412
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: if you do buy it, um, I get like I

1413
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: send you like a little patch that's a sex switch,

1414
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: and like stickers and so yeah, so that like it's

1415
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: the most money in my pocket. But also just buy

1416
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: the damn book however you want. Man, I'm just happy

1417
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: to share this information. Is their audio version. I just

1418
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: finished recording the audiobook. It's going to be out, like

1419
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: I hope in a couple of months. You speak well,

1420
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: so I listen. Maybe hate when you're saying that you

1421
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: can talk English. I just I appreciate it thanks in

1422
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: accents mean to be fair, we've had guests where we're like,

1423
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, Liken like this fucking talk already there,

1424
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: like weird, like you've spoken very well all episode. The

1425
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: same as King Noir, who also came on and so him.

1426
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: I love when men speak well. I have this super

1427
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: crush on a man who's taken but he has a podcast. Um,

1428
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: if you guys, girl, he's taken up. He was just

1429
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: on bands show, so if you guys want to hear

1430
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: an intellection. I love Aaron Foster and how he's his mindset.

1431
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: He's also into like science, he's an atheist and he

1432
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: failed to science. No it makes me know, but like

1433
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: so he makes atheism sounds sexy. I'm not gonna lie.

1434
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, maybe because that is liked. I know

1435
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: he's so woke so because of how he speaks, though,

1436
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: it tries me on. So I think I'm a safeo

1437
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: sexual bitch. Thank you very much. So you know, keep

1438
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: going where. Yes, I think she's like what I said.

1439
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's it. Are you on Twitter? A

1440
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: lot of people? Okay, not more? Instagram should pick up

1441
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: my Twitter game. But yeah, I'm just trying. And I

1442
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: also have the Sluttest Instagram also, but that's more like

1443
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: sluttest that's just not that that's not me, but like

1444
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: the site and if you ever have some so like

1445
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: you know, we have the Vanilla ships, some good Sluttest

1446
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: stuff for us to just yeah, every episode we have

1447
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: a Vanilla ship, so we love to send you you know,

1448
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: we can get featured insight. Yeah, I need Sluts of

1449
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: the Month always we are yeah, all right, there we go,

1450
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: there we know us the month. Alright, Well, guys, we

1451
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: want to thank you guys for tuning in again. We

1452
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: are looking forward to seeing all of you guys on

1453
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: tour um that is motherfucking Atlanta coming up on two

1454
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: three New York City, March ninth. If you haven't gotten

1455
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: your tickets now, they are selling the fun fest um

1456
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: as you guys see, our dates sell out quick as

1457
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: because y'all love us and everybody's hose in real life.

1458
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: So if you guys want to see us, y'all better

1459
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: get your tickets. Don't wait till you pay check, you

1460
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: better ask one of your sugar daddies. Um. Also again,

1461
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you guys in Houston on Yes,

1462
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: we'll smoke with you after we'll also please remember to

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: bring tampons, bring pads, bring anything that goes. We are

1464
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: donating and partnering with flow Code, which is an organization

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01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: that is helping undeserving UM. Underprivileged women are not deserving

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: underprivileged women who can't afford um, you know, menstrual products.

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: So please, if you're coming to our show in Houston,

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: go ahead and come with your tampons, your pads. Even

1469
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: if you're not bleed in this, bring that with you.

1470
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: We keep forgetting to bring that up. And I watched

1471
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: this like really small documentary. I don't know if any

1472
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: of you guys saw it. It was about homeless women

1473
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: when they're on their periods. It was on Facebook circulated

1474
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,919
Speaker 1: maybe and um, yeah, this girl is like yes sometimes

1475
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: like I'll take towels I have, like I don't know napkins. Yeah,

1476
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: it's really going into UM is based in Texas, so

1477
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to be partnering with them. As you

1478
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: guys know, a percentage of our sales is going to them,

1479
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: but we're also donating product. And if you guys can't

1480
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: make it to Houston, there is a donation link on

1481
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 1: that ticket. So if you guys are in another city

1482
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: and not in Texas but want to donate to the cause,

1483
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: we do have a donate link on our event right

1484
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,480
Speaker 1: and again, see you guys in l A UM Miami

1485
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: and Toronto. UM in Chicago, bitch two shows that should

1486
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: probably sold out by now. So I didn't want to

1487
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: say that because that ship we got, Like, I mean,

1488
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: we'll still see them, Okay, we'll see how Chicago. Yeah,

1489
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: we have a clip we're gonna play you of our Patreon.

1490
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: If you think this episode was great, thank you. If

1491
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: you think it could have been better and you want

1492
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: to help out with it, call us at the fifteen

1493
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: dollars here in Patreon. After four months we send you

1494
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: merch But before that, right in the beginning, if you

1495
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: want us to call you send us your number. We'll

1496
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: go through our outline of the week for you. Give

1497
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: us feedback, help us, and produce an episode For just

1498
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: five bucks. You get three bonus episodes per month, every

1499
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: Monday right after this episode. So thank you, Christen, thank

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: you so much for coming. Wasn't the funnest podcast you've

1501
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: been on it? Yes? Obviously. Hey guys, this has been

1502
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: yet another episode of horrible decisions. By delete it all,

1503
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: you can't. I actually kind of want to find them now.

1504
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: I'd love to use my own truth against myself now

1505
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: because I don't want it's the best way, it really is,

1506
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 1: and I would love to use my muckshot is like

1507
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: my tender, I mean my Tinder my Instagram picture, but

1508
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: I can't find it. So I'm in a lace dress

1509
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: with pearls. A J gott a picture of me with

1510
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: that from that night, lace dress with heels, and I

1511
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: was wearing lubatans and they had this picture of me

1512
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: and I was wearing it while I was out and

1513
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: around GP. So they make me change my clothes because

1514
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: my dress was too short. Put on prison clothes. I

1515
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: had to spread cough. You have to stick your fingers

1516
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: inside of yourself like hold your cheeks open and cough

1517
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: like I farted. So there's so much air com you

1518
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. She's like checking in my tongue

1519
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: and like making sure, like I don't have drugs. I'm like, which,

1520
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: I swallowed it seven hours ago. So I was still

1521
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: mollied out in jail. So get there Friday. No, now

1522
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: it's Saturday morning. I guess. I'm like whatever, I'm just

1523
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna sleep this ship off. So they give me a

1524
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,520
Speaker 1: zip lock bag and they basically give you the necessities

1525
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: before you have commissary money or whatever. There's a pair

1526
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: of underwear, um toothbrush, a notepad, pens. They give you

1527
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: pens and jail they had pen but like this is

1528
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: in a bag ziplock bag and stamps. So I get

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: to my bunk and the girl says next to me

1530
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: because she looks at my mug shot picture and they're

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: looking at my nails in my hair, and they like

1532
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: you getting out, huh. I was like, yeah, I'm getting out.

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: So she goes, look kind of your stamps. I said, yeah, sure,

1534
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: So I take the bag and I threw it at

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: the edge of the bed. She goes to get them,

1536
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: and so does another girl. These bitches start fighting nervous

1537
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: stamps and my bunk slides off. I am now in

1538
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: the midst of these two bitches fighting, and I'm like,

1539
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's no Origines of New Black was

1540
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: out by then. I was terrified, Mandy. I thought these

1541
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: holes gonna kill me. So didn't fucking they let them

1542
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: fight the whole way through. They don't break them up

1543
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: in jail. They let them fight the whole way through,

1544
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: which I've been there for a few hours. I'm terrified.

1545
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: So he looks at me, He's like, oh, y'all go,

1546
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: I said, oh, absolutely not. I'm I have a court date.

1547
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting out. I don't know what these holes was doing.

1548
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: So everybody, did you know what they were in there for? No,

1549
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: not at the time, but people had different colors on it,

1550
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: a little like the little little mugs shot. So I'll

1551
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: tell you about that in a minute. So I sleep

1552
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: for the first two days, honestly, like slept it through,

1553
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: probably because I was so high, you know what I

1554
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: mean that sleep? Wake up, see the light, you one

1555
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: go outside. No sleep. So Sunday I wake up or

1556
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: Monday morning. I'm starving, Mandy. I'm starving. Everybody's telling me

1557
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: don't eat the food. Now they say this is the thing.

1558
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's true or some jail tail,

1559
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: but they like, don't drink the juice because they put

1560
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: these like hormone suppresses in it, so nobody would fuck

1561
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: like they put really weird shit in it. No, maybe

1562
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: in prison, in jail they do that. Just a myth

1563
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: jail mill, it could be. They were like, don't eat it.

1564
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: So the food was so disgusting. I then went to

1565
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: the counter of the person who watches the GP people

1566
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: and I was excuse me, as you can see from

1567
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: my last name, I'm a Jew and I need a

1568
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: kosher meal. She was like, okay, well you're not gonna

1569
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: see him till tomorrow. I was like, okay, well, I

1570
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 1: had money in cash. Can I use that for commissary.

1571
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: She's like, no, you can't do anything at the holiday weekend.

1572
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: So there's a girl in front of me eating cup

1573
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: noodles and when I tell you, it looked like a

1574
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: steak bit for that the best Kobe wagou what I

1575
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: was used to at the time I'm watching her. He

1576
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: was used to oxtail. He was sucking Jamaican's in good

1577
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at this girl with a couple who

1578
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: was I'm like, what am I gonna do? How do

1579
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: I convince her to fight home? So hold on? I

1580
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: go up here. I'm like, hey, I have money, but

1581
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: not with me. Can I put money in your conversary tomorrow?

1582
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: Can I pay you back? She's like hell no, So

1583
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: let me tell you. We're my negotiating you selling skills coming, bitch.

1584
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, how much is one of those?

1585
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: She's like three dollars, which is very expensive. I was like, okay,

1586
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: well I want three, so how about I double it.

1587
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you twenty dollars. She's like absolutely not, and

1588
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I guess that's not that good

1589
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: at a risk. I'm gonna give you forty dollars when

1590
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: I get out of here for three of those. So

1591
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: you'd be basically betting nine bucks of your commissary to

1592
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: make back more than triple. I wouldn't have trusted you.

1593
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 1: How do I getting it? There are now ten bitches

1594
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: talk about no, no, no, They're like, funk that ship.

1595
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: One of them yelling at her like you'll be giving

1596
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: you money every month? Anyway, bitch? Take it. It's take

1597
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: the hell you got mad money. It's the thirteenth. I

1598
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: remember the day because my mom's birthday, to like, just

1599
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: do it. You still got money left, Just do it.

1600
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: Bitch is worth it. So she did it. She wrote

1601
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: down her am scott um prison idina because I had

1602
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: to go to am Scott her prison idea number on

1603
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: my hand. She's like, bitch, if you don't do the shot,

1604
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: beat your ass. And I was like, okay, Mandy, when

1605
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: I tell you I ate them ships. Those two this

1606
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,919
Speaker 1: day were the best meals I can remember when you're starving.

1607
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: I got chicken beef and a vegetable one, but I

1608
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: was eating them ship slow. Someone gave me a little

1609
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 1: milk to make that ship creamy. I don't even know

1610
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: you can do that ship how So the next day,

1611
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: right I go to court. It's in the morning. The reason,

1612
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: by the way, they she gave it to me is

1613
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: because of that mug shot bag badge picture. I had

1614
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 1: those pearls on that lace stress and they were like

1615
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: she looked like she got money. And my nails were

1616
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: done and my hair was like just freshly sewn in

1617
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: and they're looking at me like she can afford it.

1618
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: So I get to court. There's two women before me,

1619
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: and I remember specifically what they did. The first one

1620
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: was in possession of crack cocaine, and the woman right

1621
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: before me was there for prostitution. And so I said,

1622
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: when I got up wired you here, I was like, oh,

1623
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: it's just my license. I didn't do that. I just

1624
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: drove that a license. So then I didn't realize how

1625
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 1: testy I was being. And she was like, so basically

1626
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: you did it for a second time after we already

1627
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: had you up and watched it. I let you out

1628
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna do it again. I was like, man,

1629
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 1: I was like pleading my case right. I think I

1630
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: was like twenty years old. So she tells me that

1631
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: she will release me as long as I have an

1632
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: ankle bracelet on. Now. I couldn't understand why I would

1633
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: be on house arrest for just a license, and she said,

1634
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: it's not house arrest is GPS. So we make sure

1635
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: you don't flee the state. You can go wherever you

1636
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: need to go. So I go get this ankle bracelet

1637
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: that was this big. It was huge. If you guys

1638
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: google GPS bracelet, it was huge, took up more of

1639
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: my ankle. I was chafing, and that's how big it was.

1640
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: It was rubbing against me. So long story short, there's

1641
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: a battery in this with a microphone because you have

1642
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: to charge it, and if you don't charge it or

1643
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: if you flee, they will talk to you through the

1644
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: bracelet and find your ass. So I was wearing long

1645
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: skirts to work. I didn't know what else to do. Right,

1646
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm so upset. So I finally was able to get

1647
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: some dicks. I'll call when he's drug dealing, because I

1648
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: knew and I was. It was Mike, and I was like, listen,

1649
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: I just I'll let you know I have an ankle

1650
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 1: bracelet before you come over. He's like, it's okay, I

1651
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We'd before. So he comes over.

1652
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: We're fucking, and he's holding my ankle and like making

1653
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't rub up and down like he's holding

1654
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the ankle bracelet, and I'm like, damn, he got this

1655
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: ship together. So once we're done fucking, I'm like, yo,

1656
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: you actually like that wasn't your first time? He was like,

1657
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: bro