WEBVTT - #431 Packers Unscripted: Week 1 in the books

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted

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<v Speaker 1>colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our

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<v Speaker 1>studios at lambeau Field and West. Week two is upon

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<v Speaker 1>us here Packers Vikings coming up on Sunday, the home

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<v Speaker 1>opener for the Green Bay Packers Sunday at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can look back for a few minutes, first

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<v Speaker 1>at the Packers Week one victory last Thursday night in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago over the Bears. In one aspect that we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really touch on on our Friday show before we broke

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<v Speaker 1>for the weekend was the involvement of the tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>right away game one week one in this Green Bay offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you look at how this game unfolded. Jimmy Graham

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<v Speaker 1>had a touchdown catch, already half of his total of

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown catches from a year ago. Marcedes Lewis had two

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<v Speaker 1>receptions when he had three receptions all of last year

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<v Speaker 1>his first year in Green Bay. And Robert Tonyan had

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<v Speaker 1>a big catch on a scoring drive in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter when he didn't catch a pass last year until

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle in November. Whatever week of the season. That was,

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<v Speaker 1>so Matt Lafleur is getting his tight ends. He's only

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<v Speaker 1>got three healthy ones right now, but he's getting his

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends involved early and often here in Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny listening to Marcedes Lewis talk in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room on Friday a little bit about this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when he got brought in, I think Brian Goodacoons and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers wanted him, but they really weren't sure how

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to go about using him. So in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways he became almost a glorified sixth offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>as al most the way it worked out, he only

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<v Speaker 1>played a hundred seventy snaps. As you mentioned, he only

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<v Speaker 1>had three catches. He did talk about when he came

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<v Speaker 1>back this year, he had a conversation with Brian Goodacons

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<v Speaker 1>about what the direction was going to be. This was

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<v Speaker 1>right after, you know, they had hired Matt Lafleoor, what

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is gonna look like. And what it

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<v Speaker 1>came down to is that things are going to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought this game in particular, really showed what

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers envisioned for this tight end position. In this game. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like anybody had a hundred yard game or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But when you put together Jimmy Graham's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty catches for thirty yards and a touchdown, tanyans twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight yard catch, Marcedes Lewis being involved more in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game all told, six catches for seventy two yards

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<v Speaker 1>and a touchdown in a game in which the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't throw for four inner yards. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 1>almost half of their entire production, a little less than

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the passing yardage. So this, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really good indicator of where this offense

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go. Thirty five snaps, thirty four snaps and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty snaps for Graham, Lewis and Tanying respectively. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Week one, what a lot, you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>football would be played out. But from Marsdies Lewis perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers living up to their end of the bargain

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<v Speaker 1>with the way that they're moving these pieces around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Marcedes Lewis almost getting a third reception in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>that back shoulder throw along the sideline from Rogers, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean tough catch. Close one almost had it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you almost You get the feeling that if Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>is throwing a back shoulder throw in week one to

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<v Speaker 1>Marcedes Lewis, that he's not going to miss it again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they didn't quite connect on that one, but

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<v Speaker 1>that might be something we see down the road. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rogers has been really effusive in his praise of

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<v Speaker 1>both Graham and Lewis through the highs and the lows

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<v Speaker 1>of this offense. And he even said, I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did have his comment last month during training camp

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<v Speaker 1>about how Lewis came back in phenomenal shape. He end

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<v Speaker 1>up losing about ten pounds. Uh. You know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge leader in this locker room. That was important for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers and getting back. But even if you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the end of last season, he was saying

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing about Graham and Lewis and his

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<v Speaker 1>belief of what those two guys could do if they

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<v Speaker 1>could get the offense sort of reconfigured and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the best roles for all of these guys. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Lewis really likes about the way this is

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<v Speaker 1>working out is you don't necessarily have to run one

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<v Speaker 1>tight end into the round. You don't have to play

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<v Speaker 1>him sixty snaps a game. You can be balanced. There

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<v Speaker 1>can be times where you know, Jimmy Graham's the solo guy.

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<v Speaker 1>There can be times when Louis and Tanian are in

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<v Speaker 1>a two tight end package. So, in from Matt Lafleur's

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<v Speaker 1>perspective when he went to the podium at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of last week, the whole idea of this has been

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<v Speaker 1>what they've talked about all along, is that the more

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<v Speaker 1>packages that you can throw at defenses, the more you

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<v Speaker 1>give them to prepare for. You could very easily come

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<v Speaker 1>out on one series with a two tight end look

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<v Speaker 1>with Louis Antanian, maybe even have Italian the background as

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<v Speaker 1>a fullback and really bring things in. Or you could

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<v Speaker 1>come back all the next series and have Robert I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, Trevor Davis and you know Mark quisveld Is

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<v Speaker 1>scantling out there and really threatened the second level of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense and third level the defense. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers want to get this offense. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>work in progress, but I think when you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers words, Matt Lafleur's words, and certainly these tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>there's optimism about what this thing is going to look

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<v Speaker 1>like when the Packers get it, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to. Yeah, we certainly saw Jimmy Graham rowing

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<v Speaker 1>caution to the wind, you might say, with that hurdle

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<v Speaker 1>play on on the one reception and he's out there

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<v Speaker 1>battling with the finger injury, but made a couple of catches,

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<v Speaker 1>had the nice touchdown catch. Um to uh to get

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers on the board there in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Another part of this offensive effort though, that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about because obviously, at this time

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<v Speaker 1>last year when we were talking about the Bears, we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Khalil Mack and how he just completely

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<v Speaker 1>wrecked the entire first half of Week one at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac had a couple of plays in this game. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make his plays here and there, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out of Soldier Field on Thursday night and get

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<v Speaker 1>on that plane to come home. Um. Talking about this great,

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<v Speaker 1>huge impact that Khalil Mac had in this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>and hats off really to the Packers offensive tackles. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Bulaga and David baktr Mac lined up, you know, across

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<v Speaker 1>almost anywhere throughout the game, but the Packers held the

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<v Speaker 1>big star in check and that was a big factor

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<v Speaker 1>in Uh. I know it wasn't a great night on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but as we talked about, Packers didn't turn it over.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers did get sacked a few times, but he

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<v Speaker 1>held onto the ball all that. Khalil Mack was not

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<v Speaker 1>a big factor in this game, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>big factor in the Packers winning. Yeah, absolutely, Mike, And

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing with Mac is that, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>see it, five tackles, one tackle for a loss, no

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback hits, no sacks. That's the way you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>look because if you go back and look at last season,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't so much happen against the Packers, but there

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<v Speaker 1>were games where Mac completely flipped it on its head

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<v Speaker 1>based on his play by himself. So to keep him

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<v Speaker 1>under control, I think is a big feather in the

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<v Speaker 1>cap of the tackles. And I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>quickly just a Brian bolog in particular, because when we

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<v Speaker 1>finally got through everything this weekend, got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at some of those plays. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bolaga is so consistent with how he approaches the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, even keeled, he's been around this game

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, the way he prepares himself, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he prepares his body, the plan that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>had for him to get to Week one as healthy

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<v Speaker 1>as possible all the way through the spring and the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>the O T A S and in training camp. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>was planned out in terms of his his snaps, his workload,

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<v Speaker 1>his reps to get ready and stay healthy for week off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really like that approach because last year, as

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have talked about, it was sort of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get him healthy coming back from the

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<v Speaker 1>A c L, trying to get him some work at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of camp. This year a lot more balanced,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more pace, And I just felt like that

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<v Speaker 1>performance against Mac and the fact that the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of keep him out of it for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. It's a volatile defense. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>other areas that are going to stress you, but Mac

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<v Speaker 1>can be the one that really tips everything in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bear's favor, and they didn't allow him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>From the lagas perspective with where he's at his point

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<v Speaker 1>of his career, taking that approach his health everything to

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<v Speaker 1>have that kind of performance against Mac, right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate. I think really is going to be something

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<v Speaker 1>that can be a galvanizing moment for him as he

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<v Speaker 1>looks to now get back in his comfort zone after

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<v Speaker 1>really having to play catch up last season throughout September. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you just you turn on a few snaps

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<v Speaker 1>of the game film from Thursday night watching blog against

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<v Speaker 1>Mac and you can just see the difference in where

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<v Speaker 1>bolog is in Week one this year compared to last year,

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<v Speaker 1>when I mean he made quite frankly, a miraculous recovery

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the timeline from the a c L injury.

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<v Speaker 1>We had talked about that that he was actually ready

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<v Speaker 1>to play week one, and to his credit, he did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to go against Khalil Mack in Week one against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, he wasn't necessarily fully ready for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was absolutely ready for everything that Week one brought

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<v Speaker 1>this time and uh and Brian Bulaga, quite frankly is

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<v Speaker 1>is in a different place healthwise right now September twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen than he was in September. And I think two,

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<v Speaker 1>when the years go on in time passes, people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to appreciate Brian blag a lot more than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even they do today just for that reason. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you blink your eye like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's a ten year vet. He's a guy that's held down,

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<v Speaker 1>that is. And when you use a first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>on a tackle, what do you want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it? You want to be able to have a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you can plug there for ten years and

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<v Speaker 1>not worry about it. He's worked through some injuries, He's

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<v Speaker 1>fought through a lot. But I think you know, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>when this thing is all said and done and you

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<v Speaker 1>look at how many games he actually played in for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers and what he played through, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>think his career is gonna hold up really well. And

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<v Speaker 1>the nice thing for the Packers perspective right now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy who entered the league when he was

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<v Speaker 1>years old. You know, I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>faith that there's still a lot of tread on the

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<v Speaker 1>tire and this is a guy that could still be, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a big presence for them at that right

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<v Speaker 1>tackle spot. Well, it's interesting when you look at his

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<v Speaker 1>career because you talk about he has fought through some injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time offensive tackles here like Mark Tauscher and Chad

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<v Speaker 1>Clifton they fought through their share of injuries as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you look at it in the big

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the grand scheme of things, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys have had similar careers in that what they've

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<v Speaker 1>had to fight through, but yet gotten themselves to steadily

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<v Speaker 1>play at a really, really high level to to help

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<v Speaker 1>this team. And when an offensive coordinator can trust his

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackles, that's a that's just a big boost every

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<v Speaker 1>week going into that game planning meeting when he feels

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with his guys on the end. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dent injury rate at that position too. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the game, I was. I watched a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of games on sent on Sunday with us having that

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to to kind of sit back and obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>work that day, and the one that stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>me was it was the Cleveland game. After it was

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<v Speaker 1>what Greg Robinson got ejected the left tackle for the Browns. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to move in their their backup tackle. I

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<v Speaker 1>forget his name, Lamb. The third or fourth play that

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the game, they end up getting giving up

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<v Speaker 1>a sack in the end zone. It's a safety against

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield. The play ends with the the edge rusher

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<v Speaker 1>and Mayfield like collapsing on I believe his name was

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<v Speaker 1>lamb his ankle. And it's just funny to me that

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<v Speaker 1>that position, like sometimes guys get injury labels every single

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like every single position, every single injury that

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<v Speaker 1>happens at that spot on the offensive line, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>all always a freak kind of thing just because of

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<v Speaker 1>the randomness of it. So uh to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have Bolaga there, and certainly with David Baxtr has done

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<v Speaker 1>now in the last six seasons, there's that's a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>thing to be able to accomplish. To have two pillars

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<v Speaker 1>like that in the teams that you see that. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Dallas what they're doing right now, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones that usually are the ones playing meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>football in December and January. Yeah, well, you started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about week one, and I want to get to some

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<v Speaker 1>will spend a good portion of the coming week talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Minnesota Vikings West, but we certainly have to

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<v Speaker 1>mention here what they did in Week one at home

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<v Speaker 1>against the Atlanta Falcons and absolutely dominating performance against an

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<v Speaker 1>opponent many fields, a playoff contender in the NFC and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a former m v P quarterback in Matt Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota looked darn good. It was funny. Uh. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even realize until the end of the game that Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins had thrown tent pass. Okay, there's two different storylines

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<v Speaker 1>to this game. One, Minnesota still Minnesota, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>team that they felt like the underachieved last year. But

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<v Speaker 1>they still have a lot of talent. Dalvin Cook like

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like he's going to be a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL for years to come, so long as he

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<v Speaker 1>stays healthy. The other thing, though, that I do have

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<v Speaker 1>to at least make mention of, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hope and optimism that things are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>different for Atlanta's defense this year. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's necessarily going to be the case, because this was

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<v Speaker 1>as rudimentary of a game is I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>could ask for In two thousand nineteen. You didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about the downfield pass from Kirk Cousins. They

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<v Speaker 1>made it abundantly clear, We're going to run it down

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<v Speaker 1>your throat. And it's not even like Delvin Cook had

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<v Speaker 1>one kerry for sixty yards. His longest was twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a five point three yards per carry clip.

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<v Speaker 1>They just could not stop him. And you know, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan had the two picks, the takeaways and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when Minnesota and that Zimmer defense is clicking

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<v Speaker 1>the way it can look. I I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me on Saturday night who I thought would win

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<v Speaker 1>this game, I thought it would be Minnesota. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not expect them to punch the Falcons in the mouth

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<v Speaker 1>the way they did. Yeah, I mean that it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dominating performance by Minnesota and all three

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<v Speaker 1>phases their defense. As you said, they got the sacks

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<v Speaker 1>and the takeaways. I do think a couple of opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>where the Falcons had a chance to get back in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan made some horrendous decisions from um from just

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<v Speaker 1>a for a veteran quarterback and accomplished quarterback to make

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of decisions he made there that that really

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<v Speaker 1>took his team out of the game. But the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>also had a block punt on special teams. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the running game with Dalvin Cook and Kirk uSens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, barely broke a sweat with uh with only

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<v Speaker 1>having to throw ten passes. So three passes in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Yeah, well, I mean they were up twenty

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Was why would you why would you bother

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball and your running backs getting five yards

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<v Speaker 1>to carry? So um but um. But also if we

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<v Speaker 1>look at Week one in the NFC North, a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting game out in Arizona with the Detroit Lions, it

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<v Speaker 1>was um, t J. Hockenson came on the scene. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he set an NFL rookie record for a tight

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<v Speaker 1>end debut with a hundred and thirty some receiving yards

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So t J. Hockenson, you know, top ten

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick, he will definitely be a guy to watch

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<v Speaker 1>build like that's an NFL tight ends. Yeah, there's there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see why he was drafted as high as

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<v Speaker 1>he was. But the Detroit Lions four to six lead

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, they let it get away and

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<v Speaker 1>they end up in an overtime tie at twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyler Murray, the rookie quarterback for the Cardinals, bringing

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<v Speaker 1>his club all the way back. Um. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is such a thing as a gut punch when

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<v Speaker 1>you tie a game, this is it. Because the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Lions had this game. I don't know. I I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you really let it get away. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to know why? It's a big gut punch. Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury was walking to the post game like handshake with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Patricia with a smile on his face after a tie.

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<v Speaker 1>The sense of relief and the fact that Arizona even

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to win that game. They had the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>they were driving, they were able to get two first

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<v Speaker 1>downs and it stopped. They end up punting it with

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<v Speaker 1>a with a minute left and overtime. You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>did you see the last play and again they almost

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<v Speaker 1>got I mean Stafford almost thrills the pick on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>If I think it was Brock, maybe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back. If he hangs onto that and steps out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds with four or five seconds left, they can

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<v Speaker 1>send out the kicker one play and win the game

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit would have lost. I mean, it's just everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happened from really the beginning of the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of that game was just was just

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre in a lot of ways. Other you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny, man. The years change, the offenses change,

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<v Speaker 1>things get different. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Detroit struggled to run the ball again, and

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford, for his money, for the most part, other

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<v Speaker 1>than that throw late, made some nice throws throughout the game,

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<v Speaker 1>had a solid performance. But I can't think of too

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<v Speaker 1>many instances where one quarterback, oh, beats the other quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>by a thirty five passer rating and yet the other

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback was the one that had a chance to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game at the end. And it's just there was

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of a comedy of errors, not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to finish, not getting the drives when you

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<v Speaker 1>needed them. Well, I think this is this is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute reflection of what the Detroit Lions have been looking

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<v Speaker 1>for for years, which is to find a running game.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you have a twenty four to sixth lead

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter on the road, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>run the football with any effectiveness at all, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>close out that game. They haven't had a running game.

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<v Speaker 1>They still can't seem to find it. Carry on. Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>was looking like he would be the guy last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He really didn't do much for them yesterday when they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be able to run the football. Stafford ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with nice numbers, good stats and everything. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, if you have a thirty point thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>point differential in the passer rating, that's a game you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to win. Absolutely and and to you know, a credit,

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<v Speaker 1>he got to give credit or credits due. Uh. Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray had about as terrible disastrous of a first place

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<v Speaker 1>as you could for a rookie quarterback with those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expectations. Shook it off. What did he do? He

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<v Speaker 1>found his two biggest weapons, David Johnson and Larry fitz Old.

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<v Speaker 1>Reliable in Johnson just when he's right, how dynamic he

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<v Speaker 1>can be with mixing in what he does as a

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<v Speaker 1>pass catcher. The I'm not you know, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>these are two playoff teams or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Kyler Murray, certainly you wanted to finish that

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<v Speaker 1>last drive. You wanted to win that game for the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way he battled back I think speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 1>about a young quarterback and and what he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>do because it wasn't that he just was plays weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going as where he was playing poor. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting balls deflected, the line of scrimmages, everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>think of, like as far as what you fear with

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<v Speaker 1>a shorter quarterback. And later on he just started to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way, he got comfortable, he made plays with

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<v Speaker 1>his feet and they were able to uh edge out

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<v Speaker 1>a tie. Yeah. Well, also in Week one you would

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it briefly earlier the Cleveland Browns. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>there was one result in Week one that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>floored me, it was seeing that the Cleveland Browns at

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<v Speaker 1>home against the Tennessee Titans lost by thirty points. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the game, but I went back and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the highlights and you mentioned the safety that was

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<v Speaker 1>early on this g This is a fifteen to thirteen game,

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<v Speaker 1>like late third quarter, and then suddenly Tennessee hits a

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<v Speaker 1>screen pass that goes the distance seventy five yards for

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, and then Baker Mayfield gets intercepted on three

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive possessions in the fourth quarter. I mean, you talk,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about a snowball going downhill that just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stop. I mean this was this just turned ugly

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<v Speaker 1>for Cleveland. So I actually did I watched this entire

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<v Speaker 1>game um sick because I just was really curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see how the Browns are gonna look. Tony Romo kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pulled the Spofford in it where remember where you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh you had Jake Crumero. He hasn't dropped anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he like dropped something the very next like practice,

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<v Speaker 1>Romo was like crediting Mayfield, like, hey, you're behind right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's doing a great job of managing this game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not making you know, he's being with the football.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I swear the words were barely even out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mouth. And it was the first pick, the

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<v Speaker 1>second pick, and the third pick. I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know we have to see again where

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<v Speaker 1>all these chips fault. It's just weekly, it's week one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one game for everybody, one loss, one win,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how you slice it. Doug Rabel has the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans looking good. That defense is legit uh and offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Mariota still has his weak spots, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know who the offensive coordinator is this year, but

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they do such a good job of playing to his strength.

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<v Speaker 1>With that offense and having Delaney Walker back, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see what kind of difference that makes. I think Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry looked really solid. That screenplay, the blocking they had

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<v Speaker 1>downfield to spring him on that long connection, those are

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of things you need to do to win

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>games like this. They went into Cleveland, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>buzz there and they brought him back down to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got to tip your cap to the Titans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a the slogan I think now in

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland has hold the hype because this was this was

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<v Speaker 1>a hype team, and I admit i I I still

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<v Speaker 1>think Cleveland could be a playoff contender because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, regardless of what the Ravens did against the

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins that a f C North is completely up

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<v Speaker 1>for grabs. I mean, any anybody could anybody could take

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<v Speaker 1>that one. But any other impressions from Week one, Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the New England Patriots defended their Super Bowl started, started

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<v Speaker 1>the defense of their Super Bowl title with an absolutely

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>dominating victory in primetime over the Pittsburgh Steel Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big wake up call there in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots are just gonna keep doing what the Patriots do.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady is so effective at running that offense, even

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what happens with Antonio Brown here, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like a pretty complete offense to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>You without having Robbed Runkowski, pitts Burg has some questions

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<v Speaker 1>to answer there. I think, you know, Juju Smith Schuster,

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<v Speaker 1>without having Antonio Brown there, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>different game for him and he's gonna have to adapt

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Stefan Gilmour did a good job against him.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, just to throw this out there, it is

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins that house is burning down right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Baltimore Ravens, Mike, you and I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that starting offense. Lamar Jackson is not

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<v Speaker 1>just st He's not standing there to run and hand

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<v Speaker 1>off the football. He will throw and he has a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal target, Hollywood Brown. Right now, the Ravens are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun to watch this season. Yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's a dynamic quarterback that I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen. We really even started to scratch the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe what that offense is going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>as this season evolved, because Lamar Jackson is not a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie anymore, and he doesn't look like a rookie. And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do, Mike, You go back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty or nineteen forty two when cecil Isabelle was thrown

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<v Speaker 1>to Don Hudson. You run, you run, you run, You

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<v Speaker 1>keep getting that ground production and then you hit him

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<v Speaker 1>with a big play down field. The Ravens are doing

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<v Speaker 1>it as good as anyone right now. Well, with the

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<v Speaker 1>cecil isabel Don Hudson reference, we will call it there

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