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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with Text Stuff from Hey there,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Text Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland, and today

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a special guest, the busiest man

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Speaker 1: in podcasting, Mr Tom Merritt. Hi, Tom, Hey John. How's

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Speaker 1: it going man? It's going great, Thomas, it's fantastic. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call me if you call me John Thomas,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, totally fair. Well, make up the it's the

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Speaker 1: conservation of syllables. Yes, we have to. We have to

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Speaker 1: maintain that balance. If we end up dropping in a

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Speaker 1: then obviously people are going to realize the quality of

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Speaker 1: the audios. And they can't see that we're both wearing

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Speaker 1: white Thai Texas, so they don't know how formal we

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Speaker 1: really are. Right, We've actually decided that normally we would

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Speaker 1: only communicate through our servants, but we we've given them

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Speaker 1: some time off. Yes, well, uh, tom Merritt. For those

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Speaker 1: of you who who may not know hosts about every

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Speaker 1: other podcast, that's not how Stuff Works. I think I

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Speaker 1: think How Stuff Works and Serial are the only two

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Speaker 1: you're not doing. So yeah, yeah, So I mean come on, well, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: this this episode will air well after everyone's had a

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Speaker 1: chance to listen to that, although I have not. Tom,

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Speaker 1: you are the host of numerous shows, as I said,

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Speaker 1: including Daily Tech News Show, a phenomenal show. If you

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Speaker 1: want to know what is going on in technology on

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Speaker 1: a day to day basis, you gotta go check that

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Speaker 1: one out. Highly recommended. I've even been a host a

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Speaker 1: few times on that show. It's been hooray. I love

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Speaker 1: doing it. And I've asked Tom here to do the

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Speaker 1: one thing in the world that I look forward to

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Speaker 1: the most every single year, which is the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, beginning of the year predictions for the next

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Speaker 1: twelve months. But instead of sticking my neck out or

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Speaker 1: having Tom stick his neck out making ridiculous predictions for

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in two thousand fifteen, we decided we

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Speaker 1: were going to look at other people's predictions and then

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Speaker 1: way in uh with our opinion about whether or not

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Speaker 1: we agree with those predictions, or maybe maybe we conditionally

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Speaker 1: agree something like that, And we've picked a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of them to go through. I have put on a

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Speaker 1: powdered wig to sit in judgment over these predictions. I

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Speaker 1: I have my scrying glass here. Um it's uh, it's

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Speaker 1: actually a Palin Beer. It's not quite the Palantine. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've always said, Jonathan, that you know all there is

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Speaker 1: to know about the scrying game. This is true. You

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Speaker 1: have said that. All right. So we're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: some Samsung predictions that The Verge published, and these are

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Speaker 1: the ones that that I thought would be kind of

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Speaker 1: fun to begin with. The first one is that wearable

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Speaker 1: technology is going to create a new era of power

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Speaker 1: dressing for business leaders. So a a smart watch or

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Speaker 1: other wearable device is now going to be seen as

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Speaker 1: a status symbol. You're gonna be able to tell how

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Speaker 1: important an executive is by the type of smart accessories

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Speaker 1: they're wearing. I guess where do you? Where do you

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Speaker 1: come in on this? Tom? So this is a prediction

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Speaker 1: coming from Samsung, right, Yes, yeah, this is a fairly

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Speaker 1: aspirational prediction, don't you think? I agree? I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's going to be Apple. They're the ones trying to

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Speaker 1: push the fashion end of this a lot harder. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think obviously, Sam Sung, I mean, all of Sam

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Speaker 1: And you know, there is something to say about drumming

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't know that there's been anything

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Speaker 1: I mean I say that as someone who owns a

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Speaker 1: Then it's not during my power hours going down very well.

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Speaker 1: go back, all right. Well, they also said that automated

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Speaker 1: of the couch surfing feel. And I think Uber's well

430
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: beyond that. Like just because you own a car doesn't

431
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: mean you're just gonna hop in and start using Uber

432
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: as a driver. I mean, I totally agree. Well, how

433
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: about a couple of predictions. These came from a site

434
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: called Bread and beyond that. I assumed the predictions were

435
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: made quite some time ago, but they are for two fifteen.

436
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: But here's one that I thought was incredibly optimistic. They

437
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: said they believe that Google glass will head into mass

438
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: production in two thousand and fifteen. Mm. Yeah, yeah, I can.

439
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: I'll give that one like a s Okay, you're you're

440
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: more optimistic than I am. Although I well, I'll say this,

441
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: Google has proven time and again that they are willing

442
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: to charge into something, whether there's any proof that there's

443
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: going to be a modicum of success or not a lot.

444
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of strikes against Google Glass.

445
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: I say this as someone who owns Google Glass. I

446
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: love Google Glass, but there have been I think most

447
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: of the coverage of Google Glass, the vast majority of

448
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: it has really been couched in caution, saying it's not

449
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: really ready yet. It's not it's not appealing enough to consumers,

450
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: and that makes me think that it's just enough of

451
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: a risk, considering that this is a hardware thing as well,

452
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: that Google may not jump in by the end of

453
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. But that's that's just based upon

454
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: the thing, the various articles I've read. Uh, and you know, I, well,

455
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: I have mine, so I don't I don't have a

456
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: dog in this fight. I've got my pair. So yeah,

457
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: but don't you want the new pair, the more stylish pair,

458
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: the more capable pair with a better resolution. Well, yes,

459
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: of course I do. Yeah, exactly, that's why. And and

460
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: Google has formed so many partnerships with design companies, people

461
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: who do eyewear. I feel like this has been on

462
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: simmer because they're busy making sure that what they come

463
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: out with looks a lot better. Uh. And as we

464
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: saw there were those leaked snapchat emails about them partnering

465
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: with an eye word company. In fact, I think they

466
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: might have acquired uh, the eyewear company that makes a

467
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: kind of Google glass, except it's not actively connected to

468
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: the Internet. It doesn't have WiFi in it. You have

469
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: to download the video later, and it's very focused on video.

470
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: But they looked like stylish glasses, and that that's really

471
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: the big thing that I think people think of when

472
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: they think of Google glasses, that they're kind of awkward looking.

473
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: And so Google, don't forget they made partnerships with several

474
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: different eyewear companies. I I would be very surprised if

475
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: we didn't see at least a line of stylish Google

476
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Glass showed off at that maybe Google I oh in

477
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: the summer, uh and then possibly launched in I can

478
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: also see them sort of saying, well, we're going to

479
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: do another pilot program for certain people to try these

480
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: out to kind of build the buzz back up around

481
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: them being stylish before they actually put them in mass production.

482
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: So that's why i'm more because they might not quite

483
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: go into mass production until Okay, all right, well how

484
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: about this one. This is also from Brent and beyond.

485
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Firefox OS will flop and never go mainstream. Well, the

486
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: OS from the mobile device. Um, yes, I'm going to

487
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: make the same prediction about sail Fish and all the

488
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: other operating systems that have small market share, Like, why

489
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: are you picking on Firefox O S. Yeah, I I

490
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: don't think anyone has huge expectations for Firefox O S.

491
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I kind of hope that it catches fire and I

492
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: think it has a shot at catching on because the

493
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: developing market, especially for low cost phones is kind of

494
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: open for everybody right now, and they've got a compelling offering.

495
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: But I think it's pretty obvious the cards are stacked

496
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: against them, So I'm not going to dispute that, but

497
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm still cheering for Firefox away. Well, yeah, you've got

498
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: you've got the mountain of Android and iOS. Basically, I mean,

499
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Microsoft can't overcome those problems, so I mean, and they've

500
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: been in this game for a while. Of course, you

501
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: could argue that they've just been playing the wrong game

502
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: the entire time, but but they've been in it. I

503
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: guess my reaction is because they say Firefox OS will flop,

504
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: as if the entire world is cheering, like Firefox OS

505
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: is going to be the big hit of And I

506
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: think to flop it would have to have that kind

507
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: of expectation, I don't thin so, so it's more like

508
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Firefox OS will U we'll we'll never get beyond a

509
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: modest but respectable market cheer. Yeah, that's probably right on

510
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: right there. All right, How about this one? This is

511
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: another pretty ambitious one. We might see autonomous cars before

512
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: the end of Wow. Really that's true, but I'm very

513
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: skeptical that that would be true. I can't believe it.

514
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I I've covered this so much. But the Google,

515
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: of course, they have their prototype uh smart cars that

516
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: they produce like a maybe like a hundred of them.

517
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: They're not meant to go on sale there specifically for testing.

518
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: But uh, if if we saw a truly autonomous car

519
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: for sale in it would shock me. I would I

520
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I would also be shocked and lying on the floor

521
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: next to you. Okay, yeah, because because just for my

522
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: listeners here, it's not the technology that I really see

523
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: as the big obstacle, although there you know, you still

524
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: want to get the technology in a form factor that's

525
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: going to be pleasant. You don't want a car that

526
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: has a big, weird antenna things sticking out of it

527
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna make everyone stare at your vehicle. Uh, or

528
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe you do, I don't know. But the real challenge

529
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I think is going to be legislative. How do we

530
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: convince the various UH regions to allow this sort of thing. Now,

531
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: there's some places that have already passed laws that have

532
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: made it very simple for Google to test their vehicles

533
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: in those areas. But the thing about cars is their

534
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: mobile and they go to different places. So what if

535
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: your car suddenly becomes illegal when you pass a certain area.

536
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: Wouldn't wouldn't a self driving car have to already be

537
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: in the approval process to be able to be sold.

538
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: But I would imagine, I would imagine, So, I mean,

539
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that would move quickly enough for

540
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: that to happen. So that's another reason. I mean, especially

541
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: when you look at the Google cars they have essentially

542
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: two controls, which is start this car and turn this

543
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: car off, and then everything else is handled by I

544
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: guess pairing with a phone or something along those lines.

545
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: But there's no break or accelerators. So even if you

546
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: wanted to take manual control of one of those prototype cars,

547
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: you couldn't. There's no option there. They in fact, they

548
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: had to modify them to meet the street rules because

549
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: of that. People, you know people, they're like, look, as

550
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: long as you have a stop button, that's really all

551
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: that matters, and and they got a lot of flak

552
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: for that. So there's still a lot of a lot

553
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: of fear, uncertainty, and doubt around self driving cars. And

554
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: then I personally, I'm really looking for it. I don't drive,

555
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: so I'm really looking forward to self driving cars coming

556
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: around and being being a real thing because I know

557
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: that these systems can react at a fraction of the

558
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: time that it takes a human to react in those situations.

559
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: It's really only the worst case scenario where something has

560
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: gone irreparably wrong with the system that you would have

561
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: to worry about something. And I don't think it's as

562
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: common as a lot of people seem to think it is.

563
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: Especially when you compare it to all the terrible things

564
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: that can happen to a human behind the wheel of

565
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: a car, where something as simple as a distraction can

566
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: cause a terrible accident. Yeah. Absolutely, it's it is a

567
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: psychological reluctance, not a scientific reluctance. Yeah. Well, I d

568
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: C also had some predictions. One was that the fablet market.

569
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of the term fablet? Okay, that's

570
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear it. Those those phone tablet hybrids,

571
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: the enormous phones like the six plus and the next

572
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: to six uh that that market will grow as people

573
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: demand these larger devices, but wearables will underperform, which is

574
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of going against what that first prediction said. I

575
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: think the the idea that I and and by the way,

576
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: when you when you asked me if I don't like fablett,

577
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: you said the name, and that's where met right. I

578
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: don't want people to get the misimpression that I don't

579
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: like six inch devices and they're fine. You know, I

580
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: don't have a moral stance on them. If that's the

581
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: kind of size of uh screen you need them, that's great,

582
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: And I know that's right for a lot of people.

583
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that this is a very safe prediction for

584
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: I dc like, oh, we got our first couple of

585
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: six inch phones this year, so we'll have more and

586
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: therefore we'll sell more. I think that's true because we

587
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen a big backlash or disappointing sales from the

588
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: next to six or the iPhone six plus, So why

589
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't we sell more? The wearables underperforming is is more

590
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: of it not a risky prediction, but that to me

591
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: is more of a substantial prediction that what we've been

592
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: seeing with wearables won't be changed by the onslaught of

593
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: more wearable releases, in which we're definitely going to see

594
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna see more products put out there. What they're

595
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: saying is people still won't flock to them. I think

596
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: that's probably true. Yeah, I mean there's certain certain markets

597
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: that I think, Uh, wearables obviously appeal to the fitness market,

598
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: being like that was such a great way of getting

599
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: into the whole fitness or the wearable industry, I should say,

600
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: because it appeals in so many ways that that is

601
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: a that is a particular space in our lives where

602
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: we crave to have that feedback, that data, where we

603
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: can either use it to figure out if we're if

604
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: we're pushing ourselves enough, if we're pushing too hard, we're

605
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: not doing something correctly. It makes perfect sense. Going beyond

606
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: that is a real challenge, and I don't I think

607
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a challenge will overcome. I don't

608
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: know necessarily that the products that are going to be

609
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: coming out in two thousand and fifteen are going to

610
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: do that where we start to see wearables that are

611
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: addressing other things in our lives apart from fitness and

612
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: activity tracking, to make it more of a um something

613
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: that we absolutely must have. I still think the fitness

614
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: ones are gonna do fine. I think those are gonna

615
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: continue to do well. Um assuming that the bands that

616
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: people may don't have medals in them that cause folks

617
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: to break out. So don't they keep saying it's not

618
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: the band, it's not the band. Yeah, I think they do.

619
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: But you know, I didn't own one of those, so

620
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have that particular experience. I am particularly sensitive

621
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: to nickel. I can't have nickel against me or else

622
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: I break out, So I just get careful about any

623
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: kind of wearable device at this point. But yeah, I

624
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: I think I agree, and especially not just that we're

625
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: going to see more of the fablet form factor come

626
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: out in two thousand and fifteen, but just that it's

627
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: it's interesting. It's a reverse of the trend that we

628
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: used to see. Do you remember back when the trend

629
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: was that our phones were getting smaller and smaller, and

630
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: that became like a status symbol if you had a

631
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: really small phone. Yeah, I remember being so proud and

632
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: excited that I had gotten a Motorola razor because it

633
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: was so thin and small, right and slide it in

634
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: a pocket. I remember there was an snl skit where

635
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell had a character who pulls out a phone

636
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: that's so small. I think you had to use tweezers

637
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: to do the little flip. Wasn't that a Steve Job's imitation?

638
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: It may have been. There was. There was one of

639
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: the it was one of the mall ones. Jimmy Fallon

640
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: was in. It was laughing the whole time. I know

641
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't narrow it down at all. Right, So there

642
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: was the tonight show, the entire run exactly it was

643
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: that the roots came out. It was amazing. So but no,

644
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: it's so funny that now it's the other way around.

645
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: And of course the obvious answer to that is that

646
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: now we have these devices that can act as a

647
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: second screen, and obviously screen landscape is going to be

648
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: really important in that in that form factor. Now we

649
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: now we've shifted what our phones do, so it wouldn't

650
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: make sense to continue to push for smaller and smaller

651
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: phones in that new world. So, uh, it's just funny

652
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: to me that we've we've gone from an era where

653
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: we always thought the future is going to have us

654
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: have smaller and smaller phones. Now it's no, we want

655
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger phones because it stopped being about voice.

656
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Right when it was all about voice, they're like, well,

657
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't need an object, We just want

658
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: to hear the voice. And now it's the opposite. Smartphones

659
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: are rarely about calls. They are almost entirely about apps

660
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: and and and messaging, So you need a screen to

661
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of that. That's absolutely correct. Well,

662
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: here's another incredibly risky prediction from I d C. The

663
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Internet of Things will continue to grow and drive innovation,

664
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: with embedded tech and preventive maintenance becoming really important. I

665
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: think you could just drop off things. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

666
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how we could be how we can

667
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: make that not be true. You know, I guess. I

668
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: guess there's still some people who might be skeptical about

669
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: the Internet of Things just to play Devil's advocate, uh

670
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: and and that it will end up just being a

671
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: bunch of buzzwords that don't do anything, so that that's

672
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: why they make this prediction. Is like, no, it's gonna

673
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: continue to grow. We're gonna tendue to have more sensors.

674
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: The one prediction that I saw someone make out there

675
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: that I've started to think about is the idea of

676
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: the Internet of things being rentable, so that you don't

677
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: buy the things, but there's an't there's an internet of

678
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: things out there you can take advantage of when you

679
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: need it. Interesting. I could see that because I mean

680
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: that it obviously if you were to to jump into

681
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: the world to the Internet of things, if you wanted

682
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: to incorporate embeddable technology in your world, that's a pretty

683
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: big upfront cost that not everyone can do. But something

684
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: along those lines where it's more like a service as

685
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: opposed to something you own, I could I could see that,

686
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: like the one. The one example I saw I had

687
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: to do with the insurance company. It was like Internet

688
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: of Things as a service, so that you can only

689
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: pay for just the amount you actually need. Mm hmm.

690
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Now I like that idea. Someone should get on that.

691
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: As for whether or not the Internet of Things ends

692
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: up being a bunch of buzzwords, at least in the

693
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: short term, it doesn't matter because so many companies are

694
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: so invested in bringing this kind of stuff to market

695
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a factor. Whether or not

696
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: it works is another question, but it's gonna be out there,

697
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: so it's it's definitely gonna play an important role in it.

698
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: Maybe is the year where we decide whether or not

699
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: it ends up working and or what it works for. Like,

700
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that it's just too broad of

701
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: a concept for it not to work somewhere in some

702
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: niche somewhere, and I think we'll figure out what that

703
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: is in the coming year, or at least in going

704
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: back to automotives. I mean, you could easily see an

705
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: Internet of things approach helping out there with everything from uh,

706
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: just route planning for your daily commute to on a

707
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: city planning level to figure it out, Well, what's the

708
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: best way we need to relook at at how all

709
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: of our intersection uh traffic lights time out. And now

710
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: we've got all this amazing data that we can sift

711
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: through and actually make a city that you're not gonna

712
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: be sitting in traffic for you know, two and a

713
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: half hours every day, Tom, you live in Los Angeles, Right, yeah,

714
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: we we don't have that problem here because, as the

715
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles is proud to point out, all

716
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: of our lights are timed across the entire city, which

717
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: has solved all traffic proble. Was in Los Angeles, exactly

718
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: the same in Atlanta just the other day, as we

719
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: were stopped on the highway, I got my car and

720
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: just marveled at how well everything was moving. Alright, Well,

721
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: moving over to to Gartner, Uh, there was There were

722
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: a lot of predictions. They said lots of stuff was

723
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna double in two thousand and fifteen. For example, getting

724
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: back to the Internet of Things, that the number of

725
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: physical objects connected to the Internet would double. That would

726
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: be from six fifty million to thirty one point three billion.

727
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: I guess that's a lot. They also thought that the

728
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: market for three D printers would go from a billion

729
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: dollars to two billion dollars, so it would double as well,

730
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: that we would see twice as many car models with

731
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: connectivity to the Internet as we did in two thousand

732
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: and fourteen. I don't know that that's that huge of

733
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: a number really when you get down to it, depending

734
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: upon what you mean by connectivity. And then um, we'll

735
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: see more companies create positions for chief data officers in

736
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: chief digital officers. So a lot of these I I

737
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would agree that all of

738
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: them are going to double. I certainly see all of

739
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: these being trends that are on the rise. Yeah, I

740
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know if I doubled down on Gardner's predictions, but

741
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: I and that's really what Gardner is saying. I mean,

742
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Gardner deals in numbers, so they're probably pretty close to accurate.

743
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: But they're saying like, we are going to see significant

744
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: increases in all of those areas. And I think the right.

745
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: I think three D printing is ripe for its big

746
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: moment in the sun. Uh you know it's I don't

747
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: think it's quite to the level of three D printer

748
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: in every home yet, but I think it'll start to

749
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: hit the mainstream probably, so I'm with most of those.

750
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: I actually think the chief Digital Officer chief data officer

751
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be affected by what we talked

752
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: about earlier with the security hacks. Yeah, I think it

753
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: will become even more of a security position, or even

754
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: a position of chief cyber security officer. As much as

755
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I hate that term, it does convey what companies mean

756
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: when they talk about it. M hmm, that's excellent point,

757
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: I agree. Uh. Moving over to to Recode, I love

758
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: that almost all of their predictions were about cloud based

759
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: services and mobile devices. We almost I didn't write it down.

760
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: Who was this Steve Sonofsky, Microsoft head of UH office

761
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it was all about cloud based services,

762
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: mobile devices. I love that the first one was about

763
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: the behavior of millennials and talking about UH, the behavior

764
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: of millennials on top of the security issues related to

765
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: having emails that contain attachments. The problems that that that

766
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: ends up bringing along with companies means that we're going

767
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: to see more of a move to alternatives to email,

768
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: stuff like instant messaging or other means of linking to

769
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: content but not actually sending it as an attachment so

770
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: that you don't have all these copies floating around. Uh,

771
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: meaning that email isn't gonna die, but it's importance is

772
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: going to decrease in two thousand and fift What do

773
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, I I think this plays into a

774
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: couple of other things. I think the idea of ubiquitous

775
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: cloud is going to make it so that you can

776
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: use that option more often. It's interesting to me that

777
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: Google this very week announced that you can now attach

778
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Google Docs to email, not just send a link. So

779
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: there's obviously still a demand out there for No I

780
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: actually needed the attachment. I don't want to link. I

781
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: want the document to be there in their inbox, even offline,

782
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: once that email has been downloaded. Uh. So it maybe

783
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: a little early for getting rid of attachments altogether, but

784
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: it is certainly is more efficient. So having that option

785
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: is great, and it will continue to be used in

786
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: more than greater numbers. I think we are starting to

787
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: learn as a society how to use email. I don't

788
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: think email is gonna go away. I don't think email

789
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: is gonna die, but I think he is pointing to

790
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: something important here, which is there are times when you

791
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: need to message some one and people sometimes use email

792
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: for that and I think we're we're learning, oh, you

793
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: know what, don't use email as if it's into messenger,

794
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: use instan a messenger, use text messaging for that. Uh,

795
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: and we'll probably start getting better at figuring out what

796
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: tool to use for the right communication. John and I

797
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: also agree with the point that we're seeing, you know,

798
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: the millennial generation moving through the workforce, getting promoted, getting

799
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: further up into leadership positions over time. Obviously that's going

800
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: to be go hand in hand with a shift in

801
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: the way we use the technology, because just because there's

802
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: a generational difference. I mean, I remember when I first

803
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: got into the workforce that there was a generational difference.

804
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: I work for people who asked me to print out

805
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: all their emails, so they had to have all of

806
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: them like printed out on file. They didn't they didn't

807
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: understand that they could go and look at the digital

808
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: version anytime they wanted to, and that it was in

809
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: fact easier to track it down then it filing away

810
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: of a printed out email. So it is one of

811
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: those things that does change over time. And again, maybe

812
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: it's just that I've gotten to this certain age where

813
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, don't maybe use all those new

814
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: fangled messagings things. I'm tired of learning things. I don't

815
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: wanna don't make me snap my chat. I don't want

816
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: to instant my Graham. I just want my emails. Yeah, yeah, no,

817
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: it's funny. I worry about that, Like, am I assifying?

818
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Or is this a bad app? I just don't know anymore. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: I I sit there and I usually have to turn

820
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: to my wife and say, does this come across as

821
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: someone who is rationally pointing out flaws in the design

822
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: of an app? Or does just descended into cranky old

823
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: man territory? And uh, yeah, it's a it's a coin

824
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: flip usually you know, situation. Uh. There was also an

825
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: interesting prediction that said that tablets in two thousand and

826
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: fifteen would make a surprising come back, that they would

827
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: become more uh popular, which is particularly interesting because there

828
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: was another site, msp Mentor that predicted that tablets would

829
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: fade away as a secondary device behind laptops and smartphones.

830
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: So somebody's gonna be wrong, but somebody's gonna be right.

831
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: So who do you think it's gonna be right? Tom,

832
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I'd say, Jonathan, don't call it a comeback. Tablets have

833
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: been here for years. That's fair. Uh No, I I

834
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: think probably we won't see a huge spike in tablet sales,

835
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: but they're far from dying. My theory of why we've

836
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: seen a stall in tablet sales is based on my

837
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: own experience, which I have an original next to seven

838
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: that I still use. I'm just now getting to the

839
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: point where I think maybe I should get a new

840
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: seven inch tablet because there are a few apps that

841
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: have come out that won't run on it because it's old.

842
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: The operating system still up to date, but it just

843
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have the oomph uh to run certain things. And

844
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I have an iPad third generation that I still haven't run.

845
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: I haven't run into a problem with. So tablets are

846
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: more like desktop computers in that way you can use

847
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: them for longer. And so, yeah, we had a huge

848
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: spike in sales of tablets as people discovered them and

849
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: started using them and buying them. And of course we're

850
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: going to have a stall as people say I've got

851
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: a tablet, I don't need to buy another tablet, And

852
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: then it will start to come back as those tablets

853
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: get older and you're like, wow, this one's this one's

854
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: starting to not be as useful, I need to upgrade,

855
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: get a new one. Uh And and so I think

856
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: we'll maybe see a slight rise, a slight come back.

857
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it'll be sharp, but probably

858
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a come back. In tablets, I

859
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: can see that being more of a kind of a

860
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: cyclical thing, Like when when the first iPad came out

861
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: and then iPad two came out, we saw a lot

862
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: of people upgrading from the iPad to iPad two because

863
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: the novelty was still there, right, the desire to have

864
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: the newest, shiniest thing, this thing that was so amazing

865
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: that Apple had come out with this tablet that no

866
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: one had ever made a table buble it before, or

867
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: at least no one made one that was appealing to

868
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: a mass consumer market like Apple did. And then the

869
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: iPad two recaptured some of that excitement. And I think

870
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: since then it's it's people have realized, like you were saying,

871
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: that this is a device that is there's no need

872
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: for me to upgrade it yet there's not a compelling

873
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: enough reason it does what I need it to do.

874
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: And I'm actually seeing that across a lot of different

875
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: things now where people are kind of settling in the

876
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: way they would with computers. They buy a computer and

877
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: they think, well, sure, the computer I owned this year,

878
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, I bought it last year. It's nowhere near

879
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: as fast as the newest ones, but it does everything

880
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: I needed to do, So I'm gonna stick with it

881
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: until I need to upgrade. I'm seeing that more with

882
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: other kinds of electronics now, so I and I do

883
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: think we are hitting that that part of the phase.

884
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I also have an excess seven. I also I'm getting

885
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: into the point where I'm thinking it might be time

886
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: to upgrade because there's some loading issues I'm having now.

887
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: Things are taking longer, gets it just gets a little

888
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: slower at running everything. Yeah, so, uh yeah, I can.

889
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: I can see it that way. I I that makes

890
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: more sense to me than calling it a comeback. It

891
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: definitely makes more sense in that respect, as opposed to

892
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: people just suddenly rediscovering tablets again. Um well, I've got

893
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: a couple of questions that are just general questions for you, Uh,

894
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: something that I've been wondering every single year. I kind

895
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: of have an NFC prediction, which was always that NFC

896
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: is going to continue to be pushed and it's going

897
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: to continue to encounter resistance for adoption and we're not

898
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: going to see it happen. But do you think that

899
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen is finally the year that NFC actually

900
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: enters mainstream use in the United States. I think Apple

901
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: may have done NFC the biggest favor it could ever

902
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: have as a standard by putting in an Apple Pay.

903
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: I still don't think NFC is going to be a

904
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: huge thing that people thought it was going to revolutionize

905
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: the way you use devices. I just I just don't

906
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: see that. There's plenty of things that can do similar

907
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: things to NFC, which is why I don't think we've

908
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: ever seen people get on board. At the same time,

909
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we're seeing NFC follow the route of Bluetooth.

910
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: Bluetooth was out in comdex right, and it it took

911
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: years for the technology to finally figure out, oh, that's

912
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: what we can use bluetooth for. And at first it

913
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: was bluetooth headsets for your cell phones, and and then

914
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: it marched on into other things. So NFC maybe following

915
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: that more plotting route to like, oh, Apple Pay is

916
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: sort of the equivalent of the Bluetooth headset. The Bluetooth earpiece,

917
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: and and and we'll we'll have another one coming along

918
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: here in the next year or two. That. Oh, NFC

919
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: is also good for that, But I still don't think

920
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: it's going to be that revolutionary thing that some people

921
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: said it would become. Yeah, I think the one thing

922
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: that is really in favor of NFC, apart from Apple

923
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: getting involved, obviously, that just adds more confusion and competition

924
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: in that that space because we've seen vendors, so some

925
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: retail establishments resist Apple Pay because they have their own

926
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: NFC based payment system base. But yeah, right, that's true.

927
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Uh So it's it's interesting to see, right, have you

928
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: heard of these things? Uh? They used to be on

929
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: movie posters and no one knew why. Um no, it's

930
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: it's I think I think the the hack the hacks

931
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: we saw with the Kmart incident, for example, that Kmart's

932
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: credit card machines were that essentially hacked, that people got

933
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: credit cards that information that way. That is adding a

934
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: lot more pressure, and the United States government is adding

935
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: more pressure calling for more secure systems to protect consumers.

936
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: That that might end up helping more than anything else,

937
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: at least in two thousand fifteen. Uh, whether we see

938
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: n FC being the solution, I don't know. I think

939
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: Chip and Pin is another possibility, UM, not necessarily in

940
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: NFC implementation, but I think it's got the best chance

941
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen that it's ever had. I agree

942
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: with you there. I don't know that it's gonna make it,

943
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: but it's it's way closer than it was in two

944
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. Uh. And then my last question for you,

945
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: a burning question everyone wants to know. Will the Firefox

946
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: browsers switching to Yahoo search engine make a big difference? Huge? Huge?

947
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna see Google selling off YouTube and it's headquarters buildings.

948
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: All of their autonomous cars are now going to come

949
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: with drivers, right right, They're gonna hire drivers. No. I

950
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I think it will be interesting. I think it'll be

951
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: good for Yahoo. I think it will make Google a

952
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: little sharper. But that company Google, UH in particular, UH

953
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: has way too much money as it is. UH. So

954
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: I think all this does is pokes the bear and

955
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: lets them know that they can't rest on their laurels. UH.

956
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: And it gives Marissa Mayer a victory, which she desperately needed.

957
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: So it's good for Yahoo in that way. And yeah,

958
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean it makes a difference. I don't know that

959
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: it it really is going to upset the balance of

960
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: the search engine marketplace too terribly. Um, you know, being

961
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: got onto uh iOS in Syrie. Uh and and that

962
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't like shake the ground. Bing is the default search

963
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: engine on iOS and a couple of different areas, just

964
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: not in the browser. Yet. Maybe it'll get in the browser.

965
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think those sorts of

966
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: things pale by comparison to Google's ridiculously dominant market share worldwide,

967
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: especially in Europe where it's like abo. Yeah, I agree,

968
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I when I read about it, I thought, well,

969
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: that's interesting, and I respect what's going on. Um, it

970
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: almost sounded like Google was just bidding up its own

971
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: uh its own claim to Firefox, just enough for it

972
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: to be inconvenient for anyone else. And I disclosed that

973
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: my wife is an employee of Google, So don't believe

974
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: anything I say. Okay, that's fair, all right, we will

975
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: just completely disregard the last question. Well, well then, Tom,

976
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say, any other

977
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: predictions that we didn't mention that you felt were interesting

978
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: or controversial or anything like that. Um, no. I you

979
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: know what, we didn't bring up any of the like

980
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: will Apple release X because we know they're doing the

981
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Apple Watch that's coming next year, that's announced, and you know,

982
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: there are certain things you can count on every year.

983
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: You can count on updates to the hardware from Apple,

984
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Uh, there's not really any point

985
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: in predicting that. I guess the click the burning question

986
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: that we've had for years. The other burning question we've

987
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: had for years is an Apple television Are we gonna

988
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Are we actually going to get that? I saw that

989
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: Jane Munster said we're gonna get one, in which you know,

990
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: every year Jean Munster has been saying we're gonna get

991
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: one in a couple of years, so that seems pretty consistent.

992
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't disbelieve that he has sources on the inside.

993
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: That's ay. Yeah, Apples still working on something regarding television.

994
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: I just I don't know that we'll see it this year.

995
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: That that is such a problematic arena. I guess the

996
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: one thing that I would say is, don't forget that

997
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: both Verizon, Dish, and Sony plan to come out with

998
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: internet only cable television services in the United States. In

999
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: the coming year. We don't know what shape they're gonna take,

1000
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: but they will have many of the same channels that

1001
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: you would get in a normal cable or satellite package.

1002
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: And of course you have HBO saying they're gonna launch

1003
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: a direct to the consumer Internet service. Cb I already

1004
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: launched their direct to the Internet direct to the consumer

1005
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: Internet service, so that landscape will changed by the end

1006
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: of the year. I don't know if Apple is UH

1007
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: is going to get in on it yet, but maybe

1008
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: in after we see how that all shakes out. That

1009
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: is interesting. It could be that, who knows, Maybe at

1010
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: the predictions episode for for sixteen, we start talking about serious,

1011
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, some serious talk about the decline of cable

1012
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: at that point. I mean, we're we're we've been talking

1013
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: about this for years and we've been seeing this. I mean,

1014
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: you've got a whole show devoted to this kind of thing.

1015
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Cord cutters or cord killers is er. Yeah, I apologize,

1016
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: I I am such a guy, you know, but no

1017
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: chord killers where you talk about these kind of things,

1018
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: and it's something that we've seen for a while. Heck,

1019
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I talked to CNN about it several years ago and

1020
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: then got in trouble um. But now we're we're actually

1021
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: seeing this come to fruition. It's it's pretty interesting and

1022
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: exciting to see it, you know, roll out on a

1023
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: broader scale. And I really do wonder by the end

1024
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: of what that's going to mean for the cable industry

1025
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: as a whole, not just um, not just a channel

1026
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: here are a channel there. I mean the it may

1027
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: open up opportunities, and I'm sure it's going to put

1028
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people in a very stressful position for

1029
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 1: most of Yeah, I think we might be seeing peak

1030
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: cable right now. Yeah, I think you might be right.

1031
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if we get to a point, if we

1032
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: ever get to that point where people can go more

1033
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: a lak heart, which is it's incredibly hard to do.

1034
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: It's incredibly from a from a provider standpoint, it's incredibly

1035
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: hard to do because you're a counting as a provider

1036
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: on the money from your big name channels to support

1037
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: the ones that supply content to a niche audience but

1038
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: just don't make the money that they would in order

1039
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: to survive on their own. If you enter into a

1040
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: world where people just get to pick and choose, some

1041
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna die. It's just not gonna it's not

1042
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: going to be able to maintain the level of production

1043
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: that people expect. So it may be that, who knows,

1044
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, our expectations for what is

1045
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: entertainment is going to change fundamentally. Yeah. I don't even

1046
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: think that necessarily means we'll have worse things to watch either.

1047
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: It just means that we might have fewer outlets or

1048
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: a different selection of outlets. I mean, don't forget Amazon, Prime,

1049
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: Hulu and obviously Netflix all making high quality television entertainment

1050
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: that they deliver through their internet only services. So it's

1051
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: not like there's a lack of providers out there. I

1052
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: think some of those on off channels that not as

1053
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: many people watch, though, go the way of the nineties.

1054
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: You just you think of them as as something old fashioned. Right, Well,

1055
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean, if this just means that I get more

1056
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: quality programming, like a re a a reincarnation of the Tick,

1057
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: because it's coming back on Amazon, I'm happy. I love

1058
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: that series, all right. Well, Tom Merritt, thank you so

1059
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: much for joining me on this episode. Thank you, Jonathan.

1060
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: It's it was. It was a fun talk. I can't

1061
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: believe it's already been through an hour. Here, this was

1062
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: just time flew by. This was fun. Yeah, this is

1063
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: this was This was the right way to do a

1064
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: predictions episode. Two smart movie looks great other people and

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Speaker 1: not talking about UM. So, where can people find your stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: tom Merritt dot com to ours two t s is

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Speaker 1: my main website to collects all the shows I do

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Speaker 1: in one place, so you can find the subscription page

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Speaker 1: there and and find out the different shows. But probably

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Speaker 1: of most interest to it folks interested in tech stuff

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Speaker 1: would be Daily Tech News Show, Daily Tech News Show

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Speaker 1: dot com. I do it entirely crowdfunded. Uh so it's

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Speaker 1: absolutely free and add free. Go check it out. We

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Speaker 1: do it every day Monday through Friday, most of the day.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a little holiday break, but we'll have some

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Speaker 1: special episodes. They're including a predictions episode where I will

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Speaker 1: actually go out on a limb and and make some

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Speaker 1: some predictions. I will learn next year from Jonathan not

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Speaker 1: to do that. I can't believe you haven't learned that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you did it with Cena. You've got it.

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Speaker 1: You've done a long history of making predictions. The fun

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Speaker 1: part is coming back a year later and actually grading

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Speaker 1: yourself yeah, I do that too. Actually, the Predictions Results

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Speaker 1: show is actually really fun. Yeah, it could be a blast.

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Speaker 1: I usually end up giving fake prizes for all the

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Speaker 1: nice well yeah, yeah, this year I think um, I

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Speaker 1: think the top prize was a stretch armstrong whose arms

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Speaker 1: have been stretched out too far. That's prize. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Well, it gives up, gives a good hug. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Remember you can get

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Speaker 1: in touch with me with the email address tech stuff

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Speaker 1: at how stuff Works dot com, or drop me a

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Speaker 1: line on Facebook or Tumbler. I have to handle tech

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Speaker 1: stuff hs W at all three and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again. Releases for more on this and thousands of

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Speaker 1: other topics. Because it has to work dot Com