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Speaker 3: Right back at it.

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Speaker 4: Good Monday too, ye January fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Episode one

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty nine of the Anakin Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: My Dog annoyed by my voice right now? I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I've been doing voiceovers for UFC two twenty all day.

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Speaker 4: Get a little excited for the show open. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Ken Full, good to see him, my man here to.

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Speaker 3: See what was?

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Speaker 6: I like the new art in the background, kid, you

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Speaker 3: So I'll get out of there. So it's the art

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Speaker 3: of fighting.

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Speaker 4: The guy who runs MMA History today sent me this

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Speaker 4: your screen right now.

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Speaker 3: But welcome to the podcast. Good to be with you,

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Speaker 3: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: I know we were sort of not watching these fights

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Speaker 4: in Saint Louis together. We weren't watching the Patriots together.

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Speaker 4: You did watch the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I of course, dude. It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Love it a little bit anti climactic though, right, like

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Speaker 4: just because there's some tension here and then thirty five

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Speaker 4: unanswered and then Sunday Dude, the Jaguars and the vikings Man.

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Speaker 3: Big weekend. Yes for the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I was all locked in and then of course nice

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Speaker 4: Sunday special out of the MMA Leader on Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: So big show today, we're going to recap that whole thing,

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Speaker 4: at least the four fight main card, time permitting. Full

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Speaker 4: preview predictions for UFC two twenty. We are now six

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Speaker 4: days out from this championship doubleheader TD Garden Boston, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 4: Steve A. Miachich Francis and Ganu, Daniel Cormier, vulcan Uzdemir,

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Speaker 4: so we're excited for that. Ken Flow's got picks on

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Speaker 4: the entire main card coming up. Might do some stuff

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Speaker 4: on weight cutting, weight management, time permitting as well. This

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Speaker 4: reared its ugly head once again. The numbers of guys

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Speaker 4: the eighteen months. I think Mike Bond MMA Junkie Crunch

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Speaker 4: from numbers just startling, So time permitting, we will get

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Speaker 4: into that over the weekend. VP of the UFC Performance

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Speaker 4: Institute are good. Buddy James Kimball is going to join

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Speaker 4: Francis and Ganu. And Ray Long goes at the airport

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Speaker 4: But a lot to get to as usual on a

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Speaker 4: Monday morning, and we begin, as always with headlines.

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Speaker 3: It's time for headlines.

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Speaker 5: I have some very urgent and important breaking new headlines

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Speaker 1: John Nick and Kenny Slurians podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, so the UFC's first jaunt to Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 3: It took some time.

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Speaker 4: Nice to see Tyron Woodley, Kenny and his mom sitting

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Speaker 3: I mean, this was a long time coming.

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Speaker 4: I know Strikeforce had been to Saint Louis, the UFC

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Speaker 3: I'll get to the crowd a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: Not the most intelligible, uh mixed martial arts audience, with

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Speaker 4: all due respect, but let's start with the main event,

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Speaker 4: obviously at Featherway. Jeremy Stevens ken Flow versus du hoo CHOI,

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens is a badass man. You know, Like when

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Speaker 4: game of basketball. And he just embraces this moment. Twenty

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens. And I think this is a fighter at

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Speaker 3: Stevens is a beast man. He really is.

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Speaker 6: I thought that, you know, he got he came out

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Speaker 6: He was eating a lot of leg kicks. Du hoo

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Speaker 6: CHOI obviously added a few a few more weapons himself.

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Speaker 6: I thought did a good job of keeping Jeremy Stevens

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Speaker 3: And it was two things.

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Speaker 6: And if you're not adjusting to a right hand from

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Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens, guess what, it's only a matter of time

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Speaker 6: Stevens just landed one too many right hands followed up.

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Speaker 6: You know, I did not think that was an early stop.

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Speaker 6: It's given how many right hands he was landing throughout

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Speaker 6: more damage. And yeah, I agree Jeremy Stevens. Once he

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Speaker 4: So they said going in he only had one knockout

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Speaker 4: And when you see him eat Duo Choi's biggest shots

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Speaker 4: But he's not even wobbling as he's eating these shots.

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Speaker 4: So far into a career that has required so many

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Speaker 4: and he's the furthest thing from Chinny at thirty one

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Speaker 3: He's as tough as they come.

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Speaker 6: He does still have a very good chin, and I

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Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens was doing a good job of reading the punches.

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Speaker 6: There's always, you know, as they say, the shots that

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Speaker 4: Thank God, you're here to bring me back to earth

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Speaker 4: a little bit, right when I'm talking in superlatives after

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Speaker 3: But this win puts him in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Who else?

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Speaker 6: I think, yeah, loamis even both of those guys that

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, they could both wrestle. I'd be curious

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Speaker 6: Emmett rank now number four?

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Speaker 4: So well you don't so Emmett misses weight for the

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Speaker 4: Lamas fight, and obviously the penalty is not stiff enough

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Speaker 4: you know, And I don't want to take away from

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Speaker 4: the performance, right, but it's like you don't struggle through it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a broken record on this show, right, but it's like,

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Speaker 4: you don't struggle through those final couple pounds. You knock

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Speaker 4: Josh Emmitt's gonna fight like T City or someone. I

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens hasn't fought before one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 4: And for Duo Choi, you know, he took a year

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Speaker 4: to manage risk and prioritize the w He did that tonight.

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Speaker 6: You know what, John, just you reading that tweet really

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Speaker 6: people love to get excited on Twitter, don't they. You know, No, Listen,

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Speaker 6: I think this is a Kamara Uzman who didn't have

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't pretend to know the backstory, but I

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Speaker 6: And that's a situation that happens a lot during a

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Speaker 3: You take those risks. Sometimes that payoff. Sometimes you do not.

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Speaker 6: This paid off for kamara Uzman, and he probably felt

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Speaker 4: That brings us to Darren fucking Elkins, right, I mean

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Speaker 4: Michael Johnson's here, and props to Michael Johnson man for

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Speaker 4: And we'll get to MJ in a second. But Darren Elkins, dude,

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Speaker 4: I mean the comeback king. You just can't get this

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Speaker 4: And then obviously he's got the grappling skills and a

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Speaker 6: But Darren Elkins is an absolute savage.

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Speaker 6: you know, a guy who was not as fast as

436
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Speaker 6: Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson just as fast as they come,

437
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 6: was landing a lot of shots. Elkins look confused at

438
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 6: one point, looked like he was hurt a couple times

439
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 6: in that first round. But you know, if you're not

440
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 6: able to take out Darren Elkins early, get ready, you know,

441
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 6: get ready for a fifteen minute, twenty five minute war,

442
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 6: whatever it Isaron Elkins has a way of adjusting, adapting,

443
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 6: And once he got him on the ground, I said,

444
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 6: this fight's over. He's he's going he's going to submit

445
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 6: Michael Johnson.

446
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Speaker 3: That's what he did.

447
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 6: He went around to his back and Michael Johnson just

448
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 6: looked very frustrated.

449
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 3: Man.

450
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 6: It was a tough, tough matchup for him. He was

451
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 6: doing great early in the fight. Wasn't able to put

452
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Speaker 6: Darren Elkins away. And you know, I don't know, It's

453
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 6: one of those things where if you start. If you

454
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 6: start too slow against Darren Elkins, you allow him to

455
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 6: get back in the game. If you go too fast,

456
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 6: you know you may be risk getting tired later in

457
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 6: the fight. I don't know if it was Michael Johnson

458
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 6: initially getting tired. I think it was Darren Elkins hitting

459
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 6: a beautiful takedown in that second round and just taking

460
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 6: full advantage of it, not allowing Michael Johnson to get

461
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Speaker 6: back up without tapping first.

462
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Speaker 4: After Darren Elkins came back to beat Mersad Beachdik last

463
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 4: March in what was my upset of the year and

464
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 4: one of the best comebacks in UFC history. I think

465
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 4: Rogan walks into the octgun, He's like, all right, I'm

466
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 4: here with one of the toughest human beings on the

467
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Speaker 4: face of planet Earth, Darren Elkins, right, and.

468
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Speaker 3: He is every bit that.

469
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's any marketing angle with that damage tattoo,

470
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: because whether the marketers and promoters like it or not,

471
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: Darren Elkins is coming Kenny six straight wins in this

472
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: featherweight division. We mentioned Jeremy Stevens obviously earlier. Those two

473
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: have fought. I believe Stevens beat him on points. But

474
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: this is this guy's won six in a row. But

475
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Speaker 4: Darren Elkins is getting a big fight next.

476
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Speaker 3: Man. You know, he's tough, dude, he is really, he's

477
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: real Kins.

478
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Speaker 6: But I really think that that guy, you know, that

479
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 6: win over at MerCad Bechtick, I think gave him a

480
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 6: lot of confidence moving forward too. That's the kind of

481
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 6: fight that's gonna go. Man, I can do anything. I

482
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 6: could beat anybody.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I thought Michael Johnson, the way he approached

484
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: the early portions of this fight was very much from

485
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Speaker 4: a guy like I've been in here with Kabibe, Normago Metov, right,

486
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 4: and now I'm in here with Darren Elkins, almost a

487
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: little bit over confident. MJ thinking, at least I'm not

488
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: sharing the cage with Kabibe tonight. But man, Darren Elkins,

489
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Speaker 4: and I I hesitate to call him an overachiever because

490
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Speaker 4: then it's, oh, maybe he's not a great athlete or

491
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: whatever else. But in this in modern day mixed martial arts,

492
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: in this current climate, at one hundred and forty five

493
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Speaker 4: pounds for Darren Elkins go to Team Alfa Male and

494
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 4: reel off six consecutive wins, It's a huge story. And

495
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Speaker 4: hopefully a lot of people are talking about Darren Elkins

496
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Speaker 4: here after what he did over the weekend Michael Johnson.

497
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 4: Kenny thought this would breathe the new life into his career,

498
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Speaker 4: moving down to one hundred and forty five pounds. We

499
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Speaker 4: like the way he attacked fight week, smiling on the scale,

500
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: all good things. But you know the Ledger reads L

501
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 4: five of six. I mean, do you think that that

502
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: they cut bait with Michael Johnson? Maybe give him one

503
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Speaker 4: more forty five or what do you think?

504
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Speaker 8: You know?

505
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Speaker 3: How crazy is this sport though?

506
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Speaker 6: I mean you got a guy who was at you know,

507
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Speaker 6: one of the top fighters at one hundred and fifty

508
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 6: five pounds, a guy who has beaten It's and Barbosa

509
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: on the feet, by the way, and now you know

510
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 6: has a few losses in a row. This sport is

511
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 6: just it's so competitive, man. It's a completely different UFC

512
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 6: than when I was competing. The level has increased tenfold.

513
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 6: You get all these great fighters that are coming up,

514
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Speaker 6: all these young killers. And for Mychael Johnson, I don't

515
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 6: think he is going to get cut. I don't think

516
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 6: he should get cut at this point. There are a

517
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 6: lot of great fighters out there. But I think Michael

518
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 6: Johnson's one of those guys you can depend on, whether

519
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 6: it's at one hundred and forty five pounds or one

520
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty five pounds. Who's going to go at you,

521
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 6: who's going to try to make it exciting, Who's going

522
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 6: to try to knock your head off? So I think

523
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Speaker 6: you got to give him another shot at least at

524
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Speaker 6: one hundred and forty five pounds. It looks like he

525
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 6: made the weight well, he looked healthy, started off that

526
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 6: fight extremely well, So I think you shoul give him

527
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Speaker 6: another shot a one hundred and forty five pounds. Both

528
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Speaker 6: those divisions are crazy competitive, but stay a one hundred

529
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Speaker 6: and forty five pounds if you can get another win.

530
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Speaker 4: And twenty months ago he headlined against Dustin Poorier in Hidalgo,

531
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: Texas and knocked him out in the first round. Right,

532
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: he's a guy with a win over Tony Ferguson, And

533
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: you took my point. I mean, I feel like there's

534
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 4: value right on this roster of five or six hundred fighters.

535
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Speaker 4: I think he's a guy who who has some name

536
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: value and you know he's going to bring it. You

537
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 4: know you can headline him on FS one and a

538
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: lot of different places, two divisions, as you mentioned. So

539
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: hopefully Michael Johnson can get at least one more in

540
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: the UFC, which would certainly amount to a must win.

541
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Speaker 4: I would think his next time out, all right, A

542
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: couple things on the prelim, So James Krause a winner

543
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: over Alex White by unanimous decision, and so these are

544
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Speaker 4: two of Missouri's best fighters, and I thought it was

545
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: a very good back and forth fight. I know you

546
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: can poke holes in Alex White's grappling and James Krauss

547
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: was able to take advantage. But here I'm thinking, you

548
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 4: have two of Missouri's finess going at it, and this

549
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 4: Saint Louis crowd is just wooing right, doing the whole

550
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: Rick Flair thing. And I know, now it's like the

551
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: cool thing in MMA, right to bang on all the

552
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: fans who are wooing, and I'm not necessarily trying to

553
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: do that. But I thought it was very bizarre, Kenny,

554
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: during this fight between two of their guys. That was

555
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 4: a good back and forth fight, a fight in which

556
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: both guys had their moments and they're just wooing. It's like,

557
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, some of these domestic crowds for

558
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: the UFC and the States leave a little bit to

559
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Speaker 4: be desired.

560
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Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, Yeah, it's not cool.

561
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Speaker 6: Listen, I think think again, we've come afar, you know,

562
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 6: we've come a long way when it comes to this sport.

563
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 6: But still I think the education process needs to happen,

564
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 6: and I think that's where we can do a better

565
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 6: job of really explaining what's going on, what is actually

566
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 6: going on in regards to the grappling, how difficult it

567
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 6: is to set up a takedown, put someone on their back,

568
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 6: keep them there, what control is all about, how difficult

569
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 6: that is, what's going on with the jiujits game? Really

570
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: getting into the analysis a little bit more, and again

571
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 6: it comes with time. The sport is still very new,

572
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 6: but educating the fans is a work in progress. I

573
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 6: think we need to continue to do that the best

574
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Speaker 6: of our ability. And then you know there's just fans

575
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Speaker 6: that you know, they want to see it. They want

576
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 6: to see a sloppy scrap. You know, if you're just

577
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 6: standing up and winging punches blindly, people get excited about that.

578
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 6: You know, they should watch a street fight, a sport

579
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 6: exactly so it's a little different. But yeah, it's unfortunate

580
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 6: James Krause. They know, he was really excited about fighting

581
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 6: in his home uh city. Hopefully that didn't disappoint him

582
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 6: too much. I did not see that fight.

583
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Speaker 4: Actually, Uh well, it was funny because you're like, right

584
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: after the fight and he started his post fight interview,

585
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: they were booing a little bit, but Kraus had a

586
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: lot of support in the building and so thankfully they

587
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: were able to drown out those booze with cheers. But yeah,

588
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 4: I think it was sort of a little bit of

589
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: a bittersweet moment for him, a little bit right because

590
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: he again on our air waves a few weeks ago,

591
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: was saying, you know, I want to be the greatest

592
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: fighter Missouri has ever seen.

593
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Speaker 3: You know, I feel for James.

594
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Speaker 6: I had a shitty ass fight when I fought in

595
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 6: Boston against Gray Maynard. It was like boring as hell,

596
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 6: you know, like every time I tried to engage you

597
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 6: backed up. He took me down at the end of

598
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 6: the round, helped me there. You know, sometimes it just

599
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 6: doesn't go your way, man. And uh yeah, well and

600
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 6: and Alex White, sorry I got you.

601
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Speaker 4: Did, but it was one of the worst nights of

602
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: my of my life as a mixed martial arts fan,

603
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. And I had to go do

604
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: MMA Live after Gray Mayne or just you know, Leyden

605
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: Praide All night, love you Gray. I'm just kidding. My

606
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: recall is not great. But where were we we were

607
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: talking about? What were we talking about?

608
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: Alex White? Alex White?

609
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, So Alex White is getting the better

610
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: of James Krause on the feet.

611
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: So what do you do, right?

612
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: You mix the martial arts and you put him on

613
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: his back in every round, right, and you make sure

614
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: you win the fight, Like James Cross needs to go

615
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: out and win the fight, and I thought he did

616
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: a pretty good job of doing that. And I think

617
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: Alex White again is still a young guy. I like

618
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: seeing him fuller at one hundred and fifty five pounds,

619
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Speaker 4: but obviously he looked to be a little bit one

620
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: or two dimensional and couldn't deal with Kraus on the ground.

621
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Speaker 4: Did you see Polo Reyes's knockout of Matt Fravola by chance?

622
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Speaker 3: Flow? I did not.

623
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Speaker 4: Man, We're gonna say we're gonna table that because Longo

624
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: is not able to join us today. He is at

625
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: the airport, so we're gonna get raised thoughts on that.

626
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: Obviously a disappointing night for team Sarah Longo one minute

627
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: in for Vola sort of got.

628
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: Folded up like a beach chair a little bit.

629
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Speaker 4: Your guy, Guido Kennetty loses by triangle to Young Ho

630
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: kang Rani al Donna with a big win boxing look sharp,

631
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: she's a winner by unanimous decisions. Right, final thing as

632
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: we put a bow here, flow on, Saint Louis. Did

633
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: you happen to see UFC Hall of Famer Matt Hughes

634
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: walk out to the octagon under his own power? I

635
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 4: guess six or seven months ago, as many of our

636
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: listeners know, he was in his truck he was hit

637
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: by a train. There have not been a lot of

638
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: reports coming out of the Midwest as to how Matt

639
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 4: has been doing. We saw some pictures start to surface,

640
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: but man not knowing this was coming, to see him

641
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 4: under his own power walk to the octagon with a

642
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: limp like that. I mean, worldwide, we're crying watching that moment.

643
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: Just a pretty special part of the broadcast Sunday.

644
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Speaker 6: I got very emotional watching that, I must admit, And

645
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, you see the highlights of a guy like

646
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Speaker 6: Matt Hughes, a guy that you see as just this destroyer,

647
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 6: this guy that's invincible, that was you know, getting choked

648
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 6: out by Frank Trigg, finds a way to escape, gets out,

649
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 6: picks him up up, it drives him across the octagon,

650
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: slams him on the other side of the octagon, and

651
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Speaker 6: then chokes him out. You see this, uh, just crazy survivor,

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Speaker 6: this crazy tough country boy as he's referred to. And

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Speaker 6: then you see him walk out and you know, limping

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Speaker 6: out to the cake and you're like, this is a

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Speaker 6: guy that has just experienced so much adversity in his

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Speaker 6: life and and coming out and seeing him, you know,

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Speaker 6: hug his wife and talk to his wife that that's

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Speaker 6: kind of what broke me down a little bit. And

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Speaker 6: see this guy as you see as like invincible and

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Speaker 6: you realize how fragile life is, uh and what he

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Speaker 6: dealt with and how he's you know, limping out to

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Speaker 6: the cage and it isn't the same Matt Hughes that

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Speaker 6: we we we knew that was out there, you know,

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Speaker 6: crushing it in the octagon for so many years. It

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Speaker 6: makes it makes you realize how fragile life is, and

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Speaker 6: also just how damn tough Matt Hughes is as well.

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Speaker 6: And to see him do that, I thought was just

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Speaker 6: a special night, a well deserved owe to him. A

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Speaker 6: guy who has entertained us so many times, has shown

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Speaker 6: his toughness in and out of the octagon. Man, what

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Speaker 6: an inspiring story and what an emotional thing to see.

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Speaker 4: And you put it well, and he's not that far

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Speaker 4: removed from the accident, so I think encouraging that maybe

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Speaker 4: he can even improve that walk and continue to improve

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Speaker 4: both mentally and physically. But just great to see Matt

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Speaker 4: Hughes back at a UFC event and kind of nice

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Speaker 4: not working the show, Kenny. I was totally surprised by it, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, I didn't. It was just really a warm

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Speaker 4: thing and I have my kids watching and everything else.

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Speaker 4: So pretty cool moment there for Matt Hughes. All Right,

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Speaker 4: last thing on Saint Louis has nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: TD Garden has been historically a great domestic audience for

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Speaker 4: us when Dominic Cruz was, you know, Bobbin and Weavin

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Speaker 3: Dillashaw.

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Speaker 4: That crowd's ooing and eyeing and cheering the defensive fighter, right,

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Speaker 4: so bless you, Ken Well, I feel like this is

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Speaker 3: Willing this week. We kick them out. We kick them

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Speaker 3: All right, you FC two twenty beckons. Let's get to

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Speaker 3: the picks.

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Speaker 5: It's the Main Event Challenge and it the.

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Speaker 3: Time is most definitely I finished?

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Speaker 5: Fine, How do you everything possible to win the Main

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Speaker 5: Event Challenge? To John Nnick and Kenny Flourian podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, ken Flow, So here in begins the twenty

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Speaker 4: eighteen Main Event Challenge. Can Flow your winner in twenty

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Speaker 4: fifteen Team Annik one in twenty one sixteen Team Florian

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Speaker 4: right back in twenty seventeen. He never loses too straight,

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Speaker 4: you know that. So I'm gonna eat a vegemite sandwich

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Speaker 4: to pay off the bet on an upcoming video episode

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Speaker 4: of this podcast. But we need suggestions from the listeners

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Speaker 4: as to what these stakes will be in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: I have two suggestions. So Number one, I think the

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Speaker 4: loser does a power hour on the air. You and

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Speaker 4: I are not big drinkers, right, and that's what makes

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Speaker 4: this fun, right, So I think one of us would

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Speaker 4: throw up, honestly, because I don't know when the last

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Speaker 4: time you had like seven and a half beers in

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Speaker 4: an hour. But it's a shot of beer every minute

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Speaker 4: for an hour. So we would do it during the podcast,

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Speaker 4: and Ben with Soork and the crew, you know, they

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Speaker 4: would cueue every sixty seconds, little sound effect.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The other one, I thought, and you can put the

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Speaker 4: tattoo anywhere you want, but loser gets in the same

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Speaker 4: exact font the damage, and I know you don't want that, so.

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Speaker 3: You're allaly gonna do that? Oh dude, no way, no way.

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Speaker 3: Other ormage on the face.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, well no, so yeah, can you imagine right just

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Speaker 4: saying the other one I thought of was you have

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Speaker 4: to get a UFC fighter tattoo replica approved by the

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Speaker 4: other person.

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Speaker 3: Right, So for me, I go game bread on the.

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Speaker 6: You're a savage, dude, You're not, that's the thing. Oh

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Speaker 6: you're a psychopath.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: So at Kenny Florian at Annik Florian Pod, if you

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Speaker 4: have some suggestions as to what the penalty should be

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Speaker 4: for loser of the twenty eighteen main Event challenge.

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Speaker 3: Other rules remain the same. Just going to do more

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Speaker 3: quick picks here this year.

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Speaker 4: So overall, Kenny is going to make more predictions on

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Speaker 4: UFC fights in twenty eighteen than he ever has before.

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Speaker 4: All right, with that backdrop, joining us today, trying to

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Speaker 4: get Team anakoff to a good start, by the way,

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Speaker 4: staff writer contributor at oddshark dot com. Joining us live

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Speaker 4: from Halifax, Nova, Scotia, Canada. Justin Hartling is with us. Justin,

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Speaker 4: but man, thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 7: I am fantastic. I think that the that tattoo idea

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Speaker 7: that you had there is absolutely perfect. I think Florian

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Speaker 7: might need a little bit of ink.

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Speaker 3: All right, well we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I'm just afraid that I can't beat the guy head

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Speaker 4: to head and then you know that these hat two

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Speaker 4: bets are starting to pile up. All right, let's get

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Speaker 4: to the predictions here for UFC two twenty and if

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Speaker 4: you do follow Justin Hartling on Twitter, a very good

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Speaker 4: follow when it comes to MMA and UFC, odds and

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Speaker 4: all of that stuff. First fight you will see on

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Speaker 4: pay per view this weekend. Good matchup here at bandam

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Speaker 4: Way Boys Thomas Almada, Rob font So. Font now working

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Speaker 4: with Joe Loson's team, as I understand it, no longer

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Speaker 4: with Mark de la Grotti. He was submitted by Pedro

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Speaker 4: Munoz back in October. Here he is the minus no.

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Speaker 4: He is the plus one thirty five underdog against the

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Speaker 4: minus one seventy five favorite Thomas Almeida. Justin Almeida also

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Speaker 4: a loser his last time out, that was back in

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Speaker 4: July against Jimmy Rivera.

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Speaker 3: Are you going Almeida or Font here Saturday night?

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Speaker 7: Taking a look at it, I think you have to

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Speaker 7: go Elameida. He's had a couple of tough losses, obviously,

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Speaker 7: coming off that loss to Rivera. Two fights ago he

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Speaker 7: lost to Gara Brandt. But he's still extremely young. He

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Speaker 7: still has lethal knockout power in all of his limbs

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Speaker 7: still precise. The big thing obviously with him, and we've

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Speaker 7: seen that is momentum. He can start a little slow,

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Speaker 7: but once he kind of gets the blood flowing, that's

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Speaker 7: when he really starts becoming dangerous. And Faunt is heavy handed,

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Speaker 7: but I don't like he has that kind of boxing stance.

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Speaker 7: He's very heavy on that lead leg, which I think

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Speaker 7: will allow Almeida to use a lot of leg kicks

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Speaker 7: again to kind of start that momentum, and eventually I

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Speaker 7: think that ends up being too much for font even

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Speaker 7: though like you said, he is training with los On now,

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Speaker 7: so there is I feel like an off chance. Maybe

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Speaker 7: he decides that striking isn't the way to go, maybe

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Speaker 7: tries to grapple, But I still say Almeida.

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Speaker 4: All right, So Justin goes with Thomas Almeida. Kenny relatively

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Speaker 4: short price. I guess on Almeida here at minus one

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Speaker 4: seventy five, given where he has been throughout the bulk

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Speaker 4: of his UFC career, was favored against Cody Garbrant back

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Speaker 4: in that main event, Thomas Almeida or the Bostonian rob

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Speaker 4: fonk Kid.

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Speaker 3: Which way you go I'm gonna go with Thomas Almeida.

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Speaker 6: I think he's the kind of guy that really thrives

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Speaker 6: when the fight starts to get a little crazy. Rob

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Speaker 6: font I think he's going to fight in the manner

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Speaker 6: that Thomas Almeida really favors. And you know what, it

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Speaker 6: never I don't want to say never, but it's very

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Speaker 6: difficult to switch to a different style of camp into

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Speaker 6: going a big fight like this and do well at

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Speaker 6: a high level.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong here, but I'm gonna go with Thomas

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Speaker 3: all made all right.

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Speaker 4: Next up boys, perhaps the two best featherweights that nobody

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Speaker 4: has heard of. And I say that somewhat in Jess.

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Speaker 4: Shane Burgos has been a guest on this show. But

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Speaker 4: Shane Burgos versus Calvin Cater, so Burgos ten and zero

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Speaker 4: three and oh in the UFC. Actually all three of

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Speaker 4: his UFC fights have been in New York. Now he's

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Speaker 4: on the road in Boston against the Mathuin, Massachusetts native

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Speaker 4: Calvin cater who is seventeen and two. I saw Sean

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Speaker 4: Shelby in Vegas Ken Flow. He told me this was

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Speaker 4: by design New York versus Boston. And you know Shelby

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Speaker 4: is Tom Brady's first cousin is absolutely locked in to

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Speaker 4: the New York versus Boston things. So neither guy here,

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Speaker 4: Justin Burgos or Cater is ranked. But certainly I would

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Speaker 4: think a big name undoubtedly awaits the winner who can

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Speaker 4: get it done in this pay per view spot. Burgos

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Speaker 4: road favorite minus two sixty five. Calvin Cater is plus

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Speaker 4: one eighty five Justin Hartland.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, well, I think the overwhelming opinion is probably

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Speaker 7: going to be on Burgos. Obviously, he's had more fights

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Speaker 7: in the UFC, he has a lot more power in

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Speaker 7: his hands. But actually, like Cater in this one, and

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Speaker 7: the big reason why is he simply knows how to

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Speaker 7: win rounds. And I know a lot of times when

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Speaker 7: MMA fans hear stuff like that, they think it's relatively boring.

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Speaker 7: But you can see he fights a very consistent, very

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Speaker 7: smart fight and you see him turn it up in

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Speaker 7: the last thirty seconds of rounds. He's now won seven

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Speaker 7: straight fights, all by decision because of that style. He

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Speaker 7: knows what he's good at, he knows how to take

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Speaker 7: his time and when to explode to win those rounds.

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Speaker 7: It's still nerve racking taking him in this fight because

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Speaker 7: we've seen. Burgos has massive but he likes to kind

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Speaker 7: of bait guys to throw, and I think Katyr is

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Speaker 7: going to be wise enough not to run right into

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Speaker 7: his wheelhouse and get himself knocked out. I think there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of similarities, but ultimately Katara's ability to win

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Speaker 7: the round, and at this price, I'd like him in

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Speaker 7: this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: I know, Justin as a sharp mma better likes that

867
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Speaker 4: plus one eighty five value. Shane Burgos Kenny on the

868
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: other side, as we mentioned, three to zero in the

869
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 4: UFC also, to my knowledge, the only fighter in UFC

870
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 4: history to get his ponytail cut on the stool. Burgos

871
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: Cater this weekend flow. Your thoughts interesting.

872
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 6: You know, I actually think Shane Burgos is a little

873
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 6: bit smarter at winning rounds than Calvin Cater. But that's

874
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 6: why I'm gonna go with Burgos. I think Calvin Cator

875
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 6: absolutely can win the fight. I think he's a guy

876
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 6: who's difficult to deal with, has a decent amount of experience,

877
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with Burgos here for the win.

878
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 4: All right, Next up CO main event, We're already there.

879
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: Two time UFC Light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier pro hib

880
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: what favorite here, guys minus three twenty five the challenger

881
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: Vulcan Uzdmir plus two point fifty. So I'm going to

882
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: talk to Daniel tomorrow as part of our fighter calls,

883
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: and among the things I'm going to ask him about.

884
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: You know, for the first time, Kenny, that I can remember,

885
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: he's saying publicly that an opponent is not on his level.

886
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: And maybe he has said this in the past, but

887
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: I don't remember him continuously saying, you know, there are

888
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: levels to this. This guy's not on my level, and

889
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: I want to hear why he is so convinced that

890
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: Vulcan's not on the level. Justin the question to you is,

891
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: how do you see this title fight playing out? Is

892
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: Uzdemir anywhere near Cormier's level, and being a championship fight

893
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: will also need a method of victory and around, if

894
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: you'd be.

895
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 7: So kind, Yeah, to put it bluntly, I don't think

896
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 7: Ozdemir is on the same level as Cormier. I know

897
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 7: you're a big believer in this. When I say that

898
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 7: DC is one of the all time great pounds of pounds, no,

899
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 7: no question to ask He's one of the few fighters

900
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 7: that have gotten it done at different weight classes, and

901
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 7: he's done it differently, and you see at light heavyweight

902
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 7: he's learned how to use his very stocky frame, his

903
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 7: kind of his size advantage and really grind guys out.

904
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 7: And again you hear stuff like you grind out opponents.

905
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 7: People tend to think that that's a little boring, but

906
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 7: he really does do it, and usually the most violent way,

907
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 7: by just wearing guys down and mentally breaking them before

908
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 7: he even physically breaks them. His striking game isn't the

909
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 7: sexiest by any stretch of the imagination, but it's effective

910
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 7: for what he wants to do, and Uzdmir is great.

911
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 7: I would kind of define his striking as advanced. Basically,

912
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 7: it's very meat and potatoes, but it's good. His main

913
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 7: weapon is that big left hand. But if DC went

914
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 7: in there with somebody like Rumble twice and didn't get caught,

915
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: I don't think Uzdmir is going to be able to either.

916
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 7: So ultimately, I actually kind of think that this plays

917
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 7: out quite a bit like Cornier spikes against Rumble. DC

918
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 7: kind of cautions at first, feeling it out, but eventually

919
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 7: grinding him down and I'm going to take him to

920
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 7: win by a teak in.

921
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: The third round, all right, Daniel Cormier TKO round three,

922
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: and I agree with a lot of the analysis in there.

923
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: Vulcan Uzdemir certainly the less known quantity here coming in

924
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: for DC.

925
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: Kenny.

926
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: I mean, you know him as well as you know

927
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: any fighter on the roster, one of your dear friends.

928
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: A guy who doesn't take any opponent lightly, despite the

929
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: fact that he thinks Uzdamir is not necessarily on the

930
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: level and just an amazing athlete, right like with DC,

931
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: you just don't let the frame fool you. Watch this

932
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: guy shoot a fifteen footer, right, I mean, this is

933
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: an outstanding athlete. You think DC defense successfully this weekend or.

934
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: Well, well, he is an excellent athlete.

935
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 6: I think that this talk from Daniel Cormier really steps

936
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 6: from not necessarily thinking that, you know, Vulcan's not on

937
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: the level. It's him wanting Vulcan to believe that he's

938
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 6: not on vocable and I think that's where that's coming from.

939
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: Daniel is a ballbuster.

940
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: He's a guy who's always going to try to get

941
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 6: in your head and talk crap, and no matter who

942
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 6: you are, whether you're a buddy or an opponent, and

943
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 6: I think he's trying to plant that seed of doubt

944
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 6: in Uzdemir's head the best that he can now. Style wise,

945
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: I just think he's gonna be a tough matchup for Uzdemir.

946
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 6: Here's the thing though, with Uzdemir, what makes him dangerous

947
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 6: is the fact that he throws punches from a lot

948
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: of crazy angles.

949
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: He can he can land in short, he can land

950
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: you from far away.

951
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: He can slip off and be completely off balanced, land

952
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 6: a shot and still knock you out. He has that

953
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: kind of power and he'll throw shots that you don't see.

954
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 6: So for Cormier, he has to set up his takedowns well. Yes,

955
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 6: he can go out there and wrestle and take him

956
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 6: down and grind him down or maybe submit him. How

957
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 6: does he do that though? He needs to be very

958
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 6: cautious in his approach. He needs to faint his way in.

959
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 6: He needs to keep Folkan Uzdemir guessing as to when

960
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: he's gonna come in and utilize that takedown because Uzdemir

961
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: read's opponents very well and it will catch you. So

962
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 6: the more that Comier can throw a lot of variety

963
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 6: and faint his way in will serve him.

964
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 8: Well.

965
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: If Cormier is fighting Mozilla, I'm gonna I'm gonna pick I.

966
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: Know you Cornier, So I think Cormier this is a

967
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 6: favorable matchup form he does need to fight smart. I'm

968
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 6: going with Cormier. I think that third round TKO sounds

969
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 6: pretty good to me as well.

970
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: All right, Cormier, round three t k O. I was

971
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: gonna ask, like, are you even contractually allowed to go

972
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: on UFC tonight and pick volcanows to me here by

973
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: first round knockout against DC? I don't even know if

974
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: Steve Becker and the crew over there would even let.

975
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 8: You do that.

976
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: No, exactly.

977
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: First of all, you know, let's say I wasn't Daniel

978
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 6: Cormier's friend. Did you see how he slammed Alexander Guftison

979
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: and Dan Henderson with that? That's what he would do

980
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: to me easily with one or so I'm not picking

981
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 6: against him for that reason as well.

982
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: And of course, when I do talk to him tomorrow,

983
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: my first question is going to be the New Orleans

984
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 4: Saints Man, tough pill to swallow, not the.

985
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: They're not the Patriots, Let's put it that way, all right.

986
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: Finally, boys, the UFC Heavyweight Championship, Steve A Miachich in

987
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: search of a record third title defense. On paper, that

988
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: would actually make him the most decoration did UFC, a

989
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: big man of all time, and I think to break

990
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: that record Kenny with a win as a betting underdog

991
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: against Francis and Gano in current form would be just

992
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: a great way to break the record for steep A.

993
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: So in Ghano though, guys minus one eighty five steep

994
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 4: A the plus one p fifty five underdog justin rounded

995
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: method of victory as well. UFC Heavyweight Championship fight and

996
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: still and new which way you go.

997
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 7: I've been going back and forth on this one a lot.

998
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 7: This is probably one of the toughest decisions I've had.

999
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 7: I absolutely love Stevee. I truly believe that he is

1000
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 7: the most well rounded heavyweight in the world right now.

1001
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 7: He's technically sound everywhere, and he has the history behind him.

1002
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 7: Underdog champions are eight and four with one no contest

1003
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 7: since the start of two thousand and nine and the

1004
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 7: four no with one no contest in the last five

1005
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 7: So champions like being overlooked, champions like being the underdogs

1006
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 7: of history has anything to say and I think steep

1007
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: A can beat ninety nine percent of heavyweights in the world,

1008
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 7: but he's hittable and you can only dance with the

1009
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 7: devil so long, and we've seen that in Ganu's power

1010
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 7: is astronomical, Like I've never seen anything like it. I've

1011
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 7: watched that overe knockout probably three thousand times now and

1012
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 7: it's still impressive to me. And he does it because

1013
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 7: he's getting technically better. He's not just a bomber anymore

1014
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 7: as he was kind of in the early goings in

1015
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 7: his career. He's so technically refined and you can see

1016
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 7: his movement. So it's only a matter of time, I think,

1017
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 7: until Steve Bay gets caught. So I'm gonna say that

1018
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 7: in Ghanu wins the heavyweight championship by a second round.

1019
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: Knockout, second round knockout for Francis and Ghano, or I

1020
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: can flow, the floor is yours. I would imagine this

1021
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: isn't the easiest fight for you to pick either between

1022
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: Steve B and Francis this week.

1023
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, mainly because I'm such a huge fan of Steve A. Micic.

1024
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 6: You know, this is a guy who has beaten pretty

1025
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 6: much everyone in front of him in his UFC career.

1026
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 6: You see where he's he's come back from in that

1027
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: fight against Stefan Street to where he is now as

1028
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 6: a fighter, and the different things that he can do.

1029
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 6: You know, his underdog status, which you know happens time

1030
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 6: and time again. You know, he's kind of the Frankie

1031
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: Edgar of the heavyweight division, both the way that he

1032
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 6: fights and how people kind of view him.

1033
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 3: He's very quiet when he goes out to fight.

1034
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: He's as exciting as anybody out there, but doesn't brag

1035
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 6: about it.

1036
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: He's one of those hard working guys that you just

1037
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: have to respect.

1038
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 6: Here's the problem with step Imuchciic is that you know,

1039
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 6: when he goes out there and fights and he gets

1040
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 6: even when he gets these first round knockouts, it's almost

1041
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 6: like he needs to get hit to get him into

1042
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 6: the fight a little bit, and you just can't do

1043
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 6: that against someone like Francis Ghanu. If you get caught

1044
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 6: against someone like g Ghanu, that's it. It's over all

1045
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: he has to do is kind of skim your chin.

1046
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 6: And the way that step Emucic gets into his boxing

1047
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 6: range where he's most effective, it worries me. He uses

1048
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 6: his head as a battering Ram. He doesn't get his

1049
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: head off center line in a manner that says that

1050
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 6: he can do that repeatedly against someone like in Ghano.

1051
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 6: I also am a little concerned because I haven't seen

1052
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 6: Miachich use a lot of his wrestling. It's usually him

1053
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 6: knocking guys down, as opposed to him going in there

1054
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 6: hitting that double leg takedown and putting guys on his back.

1055
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 6: We haven't seen that a little bit. That concerns me.

1056
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 6: He's gonna have to do that against in Ghano, make

1057
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 6: no mistake about it. He does not want to be

1058
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 6: on his feet for too long. Can another heavyweight knockout

1059
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 6: another heavyway? Absolutely, we're talking about four ounce gloves. Steve

1060
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 6: b Ay can catch in Ghano. The problem is every

1061
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 6: time he deals with that and decides to train to

1062
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 6: trade with someone like Gano, especially on the outside, is

1063
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 6: a big time risk. I see in Ghano catching him.

1064
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 6: Those knockouts against over him, the knockout against Arlovsky, and

1065
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 6: Ghanu reads you very well. Everyone talks about his power,

1066
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 6: everyone talks about his speed, But he knows where your

1067
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: vulnerabilities are. He knows where your head is going to be.

1068
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 6: He can see it in an instant and he can

1069
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 6: hit the target when he wants. That does not bode

1070
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: well for Miacic. I think and Ghanuho gets another first

1071
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 6: round knockout win here. I hate to say it because

1072
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 6: I love Miacic, but and Ghanu will get the win.

1073
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna get it by knockout in brutal fashion.

1074
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: This guy just hits way too hard. Miachic needs to

1075
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 6: protect himself out there. This is unbelievable. You know, this

1076
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 6: is just crazy.

1077
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: The experts are all in on Francis and Ghano. You know,

1078
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: it all plays out in six days Boston, Massachusetts, and

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Speaker 4: I would imagine Kenny. If Francis and Ghano knocks out

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Speaker 4: Stepe in round one, your projection is that he just becomes,

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Speaker 4: you know, the second coming of brock Lesner. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously not on that level of super stardom, but you

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Speaker 4: go beat Stepe, become the heavyweight champion. At the very

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Speaker 4: least Francis and Ghana would be would be a millionaire,

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Speaker 4: all right. Finally, guys, quick pick for the record second

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Speaker 4: fight on the main car justin light heavyweights. John Belonte

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Speaker 4: minus two fifteen, Francis mar bodal Bojos plus one sixty five.

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Speaker 4: We don't any analysis. I just need a winner for

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Speaker 4: the record, Justin, who will it be?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna be Valante. He's just not gonna get

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Speaker 7: grinded out in this one.

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Speaker 4: John Belante the favorite Ken Flow. You going with him

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Speaker 4: or Francie ma Bojo's This I think.

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Speaker 6: Is the toughest pick because you never know which of

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Speaker 6: these guys you're gonna get on Fight Nite.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go with what Justin said. I think

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Speaker 3: John Valatte gets the one.

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Speaker 4: you beat ken Flow head to head, you earn a

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Speaker 4: right now joining us on the guest line, and we're

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Speaker 4: glad to have him. You know, in my three years

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Speaker 4: living in Vegas, probably the guy I spent the most

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Speaker 4: time with away from the UFC job, so good friend

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Speaker 4: of the show and the vice president of operations for

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Speaker 4: the UFC Performance Institute, I mean Ken Floyd. That title

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Speaker 4: sounds good right there, James Kimball is with us. James,

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Speaker 4: pleasure is ours my man.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. How's it going out there?

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00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 8: John Kenny, Good morning, Thanks for having me. Very kind

1148
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 8: of you guys to have me on. Look forward to chat.

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Speaker 4: Wait till you go to Fox sports dot com and

1150
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: see this picture of you too that they have pulled

1151
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: up with your arms crossed.

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Speaker 3: You look great. So are you live at the UFCPI

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: right now or no.

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Speaker 8: I'm live. I'm live. We don't I at a PI.

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Speaker 8: We don't necessarily observe many holidays, so we are live

1156
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 8: with athletes in the building, we are at work.

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00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: And Martin Luther King Jr.

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00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 4: Would want you doing your civic duty, So I'm glad

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Speaker 4: you reported for duty staff meeting top of the hours,

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Speaker 4: so we're not going to keep you long. But you

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00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: have been one of the guys really at the forefront

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Speaker 4: of the UFCPI and the reviews have just been outstanding.

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Speaker 3: Kenny and I have both been in the building and

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Speaker 3: worked out there.

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Speaker 4: I'd imagine for you and your staff, pretty gratifying to

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Speaker 4: see this type of response from the entire MMA world.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. I know you guys have both

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00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: made the trip and we appreciated that and yet to

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Speaker 8: be honest, I mean when we started this project building

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Speaker 8: out this world class facility a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 8: there were days we had doubt. Obviously, it's unprecedented in

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Speaker 8: combat sports. It's truly unprecedented in global sports, right. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we don't have a set population of athletes that we

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Speaker 8: work with, like an NFL team or an NBA team.

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Speaker 8: The open doors, you hope people show up, but in

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Speaker 8: this sport, in this infrastructure, it's not mandatory. Obviously, seven

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Speaker 8: months in the feedback, as you mentioned, has been phenomenal,

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Speaker 8: and the numbers back it up too. I mean, just

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00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 8: in terms of utilization, we have forty three percent of

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Speaker 8: the roster who has tapped in and visited the facility

1181
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 8: at some point, sixty two percent retention rate, So that

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00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: that's defines athletes re engaging in our facility. In our

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00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 8: remote services as well, I mean, we work with athletes

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Speaker 8: remotely a ton. We're essentially at this point influencing twenty

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Speaker 8: five twenty seven percent of the entire roster, so a

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Speaker 8: quarter of the roster we have touch points with around

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Speaker 8: nutrition and physical therapy strants and conditioning analytics. No, so

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Speaker 8: the feat that's been great, The utilization is there, the

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Speaker 8: athletes seem to really enjoy it, and yeah, it's very

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Speaker 8: rewarding for myself and our entire staff.

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Speaker 4: So how soon do you think we're going to see

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Speaker 4: like one of your full time staffers strength and conditioning guy,

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Speaker 4: maybe actually quartering a UFC fighter on fight night.

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Speaker 8: To be honest, that that potential probably has existed already,

1195
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 8: but it is very important for us that we really

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Speaker 8: don't take that stance, right, you know, we work for

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 8: the entire roster, right, we are impartial. We don't want

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Speaker 8: to position ourselves as at the gym. Obviously, we're located

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Speaker 8: in Las Vegas, so you have the local Vegas athletes

1200
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 8: who tapping this facility weekend and week out. I'll use

1201
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Speaker 8: this example coming up this weekend, right, I mean obviously

1202
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 8: frans Ghan who trains her full time. But the reality is,

1203
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 8: and this needs to be known, that if if Steve

1204
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 8: shows up next Tuesday, he's getting the exact same resources, right,

1205
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Speaker 8: So we're not necessarily going to position ourselves as a

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Speaker 8: team member of an athlete. We are here for the

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Speaker 8: entire roster.

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Speaker 4: So that brings us to Francis and Ghan, who can

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Speaker 4: flow essentially the face of the UFCPI right now, not

1210
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Speaker 4: that you guys have put him on the front of

1211
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Speaker 4: the building, but he really right now is the face

1212
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Speaker 4: of the PI fighting Steve A. Miachich for the title

1213
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Speaker 4: here in five days. As you mentioned now, he's been

1214
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Speaker 4: in Paris for the last couple of weeks. So as

1215
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Speaker 4: the vice president of operations for the PI, are you

1216
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: at least allowed to say like you miss seeing the

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Speaker 4: big man in the building three or four times a day.

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Speaker 8: To be honest, I'm not entirely, sure, I do. I

1219
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 8: said that joking. Obviously, Francis Is is going to have

1220
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Speaker 8: around the building. He never leaves it, which I think

1221
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Speaker 8: has been a benefit for him. His trip to Paris

1222
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 8: was always planned, you know, around the holidays. He wanted

1223
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Speaker 8: to get away and get back to his his home

1224
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Speaker 8: gym and work with his with his head coach Brenane

1225
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 8: Lopez over at the NBA factory in Paris. But yeah,

1226
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know what we provided Francis from from

1227
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 8: the Mini Way open doors in May was really a structure, right,

1228
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Speaker 8: I Mean, he moved, he relocated to Vegas without anyone,

1229
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 8: without any idea of really what was going to happen next.

1230
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Speaker 8: So I think the biggest benefit that he's received from

1231
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Speaker 8: training at the PI really is just that structure. Obviously,

1232
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Speaker 8: it's the access to the world class facility, the world

1233
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Speaker 8: class staff that we had that he can tap into.

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Speaker 8: But really it's a structure, right, It's it's it's a

1235
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Speaker 8: purpose driven approach to training, and I think he's really

1236
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Speaker 8: benefit from then. And yeah, I mean the final couple

1237
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Speaker 8: of weeks that he's been in Paris, I think honestly

1238
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Speaker 8: was probably benefit for him, you know, obviously we're a

1239
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 8: to the global headquarters, right, so in Vegas there's a

1240
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 8: lot of media responsibilities, a lot of sponsor of responsibilities,

1241
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 8: certain obligations that popped up. It was probably good for

1242
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 8: him to get away a bit.

1243
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Speaker 6: So, James, You've seen a lot of amazing athletes both

1244
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: in and out of the UFC, obviously mostly UFC athletes lately.

1245
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 6: And when you're at the UFCPI how impressive is it

1246
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 6: to see a guy like Francis and Gano work out.

1247
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Speaker 6: I mean, can you give us an example of something

1248
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: that he's done besides obviously his PUDGECT power? You give

1249
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: us an example of something you saw that just kind

1250
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 6: of blew you away a little bit.

1251
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

1252
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think Francis is the one of patan athlete.

1253
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Speaker 8: I mean, regardless of whether or not we were here

1254
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: for him. I mean, he was going to be an

1255
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 8: elite level athlete and fighter. But I think the most

1256
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 8: impressive part about Francis is obviously his power is well

1257
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 8: known and well documented. But this is movement. It is athleticism.

1258
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Speaker 8: For a guy that size, he controls his movement so

1259
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 8: so well. You know, whether it's a strength and conditioning

1260
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Speaker 8: workout or just working upstairs in the OO. I mean

1261
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 8: he moves really agile. I mean he he has balance,

1262
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 8: he has control of everything he does. I think that's

1263
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Speaker 8: the most important impressive part for me is just his

1264
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Speaker 8: overall athleticystem.

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Speaker 6: You know, James, last time I was at the UFCPI,

1266
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Speaker 6: you know, I was blown away just by everything that

1267
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 6: you guys have in there, state of the art equipment.

1268
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 6: Here's the problem. Have you fixed the body fat scan machine?

1269
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 6: Because last time I was in there, it said I

1270
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 6: wasn't at three percent body fat?

1271
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: So have you guys. Have you guys fixed that yet?

1272
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Speaker 8: We did recalibrate it. We did recalibrate at one you

1273
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Speaker 8: make in return visit you're under double digits to promise.

1274
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Speaker 3: You all right perfect. I was a little concerned with that.

1275
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Speaker 4: Yeah, feels like he's got to be a little bit

1276
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: closer to that five percent threshold if he's going to

1277
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: make a comeback.

1278
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: Ken Fell inspired to make a comeback.

1279
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Speaker 4: Actually, after watching the Saint Louis Show this weekend, UFC

1280
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Speaker 4: vice president of Operations at the PI James Kimball with

1281
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: us here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. What was up

1282
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: with Forrest Griffin going through like a practice weight cut

1283
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago. I mean, was this endorsed by you?

1284
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: I know you guys are close, but Jesus Jimmy, what

1285
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 4: are we doing in our spare time?

1286
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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 8: It was impressive. I mean, talk about a guy that

1288
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 8: still has it. You know, he just shows up to

1289
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 8: work one day on a Monday and says, you know what,

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Speaker 8: I think I'm gonna make waight make wait? What do

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Speaker 8: you mean? Well, you know there's the way in front

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Speaker 8: of I think I'm gonna like cut weight okay, And

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Speaker 8: the next thing we know, like within day and a meeting,

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Speaker 8: he's carrying around his gallon jug to stilled water.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: You know he's a little bit cloudy in the head,

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Speaker 8: but the guy made waight. It's impressive. I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 4: So Francis and Ghan who might not have moved to

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas were it not for the ufc P. I

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Speaker 4: I mean, are you expectant that that that's going to

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Speaker 4: be a trend, that that fighters are actually going to

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Speaker 4: move to Las Vegas and make that a cornerstone of

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Speaker 4: their training camps, even when that maybe wasn't even close

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Speaker 4: to their radar.

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Speaker 3: Before this building and facility was erected.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think we've we've seen a bit

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Speaker 8: of that. But to be the most beneficial aspect of

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Speaker 8: of an athlete cap into the PI is really visited

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Speaker 8: multiple times throughout the year for a couple of days,

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Speaker 8: four or five days. Right, So, rather than fully relocate,

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Speaker 8: which you know on a personal level may be difficult

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Speaker 8: for some athletes, tap into the facility, come through and

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Speaker 8: get some diagnostic testing, some objective data points to where

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Speaker 8: you can go back to your home, home, gym, home camp,

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Speaker 8: come back in three months and see what you've improved

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Speaker 8: to where you haven't. Obviously, we're here for athletes should

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Speaker 8: they want to relocate to get to Vegas. We have

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Speaker 8: ad athletes who haven't fully relocated, but have spent four weeks,

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Speaker 8: six weeks, eight weeks at a time with us, which

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Speaker 8: I think is obviously extremely beneficial. But I think the

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Speaker 8: most beneficial part per athletes would be just tapping in

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Speaker 8: maybe three or four times a year. And you know,

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Speaker 8: it's not many places where you can receive this type

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Speaker 8: of objective data. So again, you know, the entire purpose

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Speaker 8: behind what we do here is to provide athletes and

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Speaker 8: understanding of exactly what's required for them to optimize their performance.

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Speaker 8: Everything is set when to visualize, right, So athletes really

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Speaker 8: need to understand exactly what they're working with, whether it's

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Speaker 8: you know, body composition testing or strength and power profile testing.

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Speaker 8: You know, what we can provide athletes is is access

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Speaker 8: to data and insight. It's into their into their physios,

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Speaker 8: into their physical preparation in which they can't access anywhere else.

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Speaker 8: So while we're here for athletes, I think that's the

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Speaker 8: most beneficial part for them.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait till the Raiders come to town and

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01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: you have all the Las Vegas Raiders showing up at

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Speaker 4: James Kimball's office asking for more body armor. All right,

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Speaker 4: a couple more minutes here with with my good friend

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Speaker 4: James Kimball. So I know you're a fight fan at

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Speaker 4: your core as well. So I mean, I know you

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Speaker 4: share our excitement. Stepe Mia chich Francis in Ghana? Are

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Speaker 4: you surprised that in Ghanu is about a two to

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Speaker 4: one favorite as we sit here, you know on Monday morning,

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Speaker 4: I am I.

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Speaker 8: I I think the purpose and the reason behind that obviously,

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 8: I think you know it's it's it's kind of you know,

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Speaker 8: it's step A has a final while right, you know,

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Speaker 8: France is just five a month ago and record one

1349
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 8: of the best knockouts in UFC history. Right, So it's

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 8: it's Francis is fresh in everyone's mind, you know. But

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Speaker 8: people have to remember that Steepey has not gone out

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 8: of the first round and his last few fights as well. Right,

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01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 8: who's finished guys within the first five minutes and he

1354
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 8: has He's obviously extremely well round. It has one punch power.

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Speaker 8: I think the reason why Franci is the fair but

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Speaker 8: just because I think he's really fresh in everyone's mind

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 8: at the moment. But you know, I expect this fight,

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 8: doesn't they the full twenty five? But I think either

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 8: fight or is capable of walking out.

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Speaker 4: Of there with that golden all Right, I know you're

1361
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: a diehard New York Giants lifer.

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 3: Who's going to be their next football coach? Not Matt Patricia, Yeah.

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 8: And not Josh McDaniels apparently on I think he's favoring

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 8: the Colt's position over that. Well. I would love I

1365
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 8: would love to say that I have a good idea,

1366
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 8: but with the remaining candid it's left out there unless

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 8: we pull some some rabbit out of the hat and

1368
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 8: get price Savan away from Alabama. I don't know, I'm

1369
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 8: hearing naked Pat Schumer, who was the Vikings. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 8: either way, it's not a good setup. Either way, it

1371
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 8: is not a good position to be a Giants fan

1372
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 8: at the moment, to be honest. But you know what,

1373
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 8: the Yanks, how about that? How about that lineup?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: That's right?

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 8: You can look forward to ahad as New Yorkers. That's right.

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01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 4: I have already bet on them at five to one

1378
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: to win the World Series. That's down to three. They

1379
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 4: get more respect from Vegas than any team in the

1380
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 4: history of professional sports. All right, last thing, then Jacksonville

1381
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 4: Jaguars right now getting nine and a half at New

1382
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: England in the AFC Championship game.

1383
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: Forced to bet on that game against the spread, which sadia.

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 8: I mean, look, whenever, whenever you're getting more than a touchdown,

1385
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 8: it's it's gotta take the.

1386
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: Rules.

1387
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 8: You got to take the points. But look, I think

1388
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 8: the I think the Jags are a great defense, right.

1389
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 8: I think Bortles played pretty well yesterday. I swear to

1390
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 8: seeing him play as well and not turning the ball

1391
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 8: over as much in New England this week and my expectations.

1392
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 8: New England does win about double digits all right?

1393
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: And last thing, I know you're a new father.

1394
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: Congratulations, Anthony, handsome little man can't be you got what

1395
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: is he like two months old at this point?

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 8: Not even he's he's two months tomorrow, He's two months tomorrow.

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 8: He's healthy, My wife Jennifer's healthy, everyone's happy. It's a

1398
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 8: true blessing. Talk about change in the life's perspective. It's

1399
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 8: it's truly a blessing. We love it each and every

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 8: day we get to spend with him.

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 4: So, like, what do you say to Ken Flow, who

1402
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: is about a month out from expecting his first.

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Speaker 8: Just just enjoy, enjoy the moment you have when it's

1404
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 8: just just just the two of you. But but know

1405
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 8: that when your life changes, that it's changing for the better. Yeah,

1406
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 8: there's there's no better thing than fatherhood. And at least

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01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 8: from my experience, John, I know I know you as well.

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 8: In John, congratulations, I think you're here. You're adding a

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 8: another member to the family tree as well. So I mean,

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01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 8: it's can I sup blessing? I don't think anyone would

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 8: disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

1413
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 4: Is the man the vice president of operations for the

1414
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 4: UFC Performance Institute. James Kimball, thank you for hopping on, buddy.

1415
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 4: I know you don't have a vested interest this weekend,

1416
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 4: but I know you're gonna enjoy watching Francis and Ganu

1417
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 4: go in there with his UFCPI tattoo and try to

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: put it on steep A mia Chich.

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Speaker 3: Love you, buddy. Thank you for hopping on with us.

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Speaker 8: Thank you guys. Thank you appreciate a touch shown.

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Speaker 4: James Kimball with us here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast.

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Speaker 4: So when you went to they like put you through

1423
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: like I just hopped on a treadmill. I was like,

1424
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 4: you're not measuring my body fat right now? I mean

1425
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: you went through the ringer.

1426
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: I really did.

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Speaker 6: And actually the whole time I legit was like pissed

1428
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 6: that they didn't have this when I was fighting, I

1429
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 6: was like, where the hell was this whole enough thing?

1430
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 6: What I was fighting, I would have taken full advantage

1431
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 6: of it, because it really is an impressive place.

1432
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 8: Man.

1433
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 6: All the types of gadgets and things that you have

1434
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 6: at your disposal was UFC Fighter now is just ridiculous.

1435
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 7: Man.

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 6: They have it all, everything from training to recovery to

1437
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 6: you know, training in an octagon with you know, fight

1438
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 6: night lights, so overhead video technology. I mean it's ridiculous.

1439
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 6: It's very very impressive.

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have like interpretation booths right for media. I

1441
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 4: mean it's it's an unbelievable facility. And you know, maybe

1442
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: when your daughter comes around can flow that might really

1443
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: give you the itch to just do the one more

1444
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: fight thing, you know.

1445
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 3: No, dude, you know how sore I am right now.

1446
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything yesterday. Who's the worst welterweight on

1447
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: the UFC Ross? Worst welter to call him out? Right now?

1448
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying you called that guy out on next

1449
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 4: week's show, on the one fortieth episode.

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Speaker 6: Light heavyweight is what I should do. Just make a

1451
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 6: five weight classes. I'm that big, right, you can.

1452
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: Make eighty five right now? You look pretty lean, pretty light,

1453
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: six eighty six. Yeah, all right, we got to get

1454
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 4: out of here, kid, Big weekend coming up in Boston, Massachusetts.

1455
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 3: Are you in the studio? What are you doing the sting?

1456
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm in the studio. I'll be watching from the studio desk.

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, Ken, Well, we will miss you up

1458
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: in the bean for me, dude, I mean this is

1459
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: like a professional dream, right calling a pay per view

1460
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 4: at the TD Garden, where I was a season ticket

1461
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: holder for the Celtics for so many years, So gonna

1462
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: be excited to be in the Garden this weekend. Of course,

1463
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: we'll be back in a week's time to recap that

1464
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: pay per view and look ahead obviously to the Nex

1465
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: Fox showcase which is coming up in Charlotte shortly thereafter.

1466
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Speaker 4: With that, thank you to our guests James Kimball, Justin

1467
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: Hartling for Ken Flow, and the entire Anakin Florian podcast

1468
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Speaker 4: crew coming in on the holiday. Once again, I'm John Annak.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all for listening. We will talk to you

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