1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: We have Trevor Rodgers joining us. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's good to be 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: with you guys for a little bit. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Talk to some shop, dude, you are dealing. How fun 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: has it been for you during these last couple of months. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: It's been been a lot of fun, you know, you know, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: just really just getting back to, you know, the way 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: that I've always thought that I could throw the ball 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: consistently and just you know, help my team and help 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: this organization win every time I'm out there. So it's 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: been a lot of fun here recently. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: Did you think it was gonna happen right away when 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: you went over to the Orioles last year? 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: When you get. 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Traded over, you're like, perfect, I'm the guy that's gonna 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: take this Orioles team to the Promised Land. And it 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: didn't happen right away. Did you think it was going 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: to like make that change or was the transition from 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: the Marlins to the Orioles tougher than what people think, Oh, 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: you you're just traded, You just get different color cleats. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a lot tougher than what people realize. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 4: You know. 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: With Miami, we kind of had a really really bad 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: year from the previous year, and you know, they were 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: going in a different direction, and you know, again traded 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: to a first place team and the al least probably 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: one of the best divisions in baseball, just put a 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: bunch of unwanted pressure on myself. I just thought I 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: had to go out there and throw a score of 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: outing every single time out. And I kind of went 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: the opposite direction, and you know, you know, got sent down. 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: And I think, looking back now and where I'm at now, 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: I think it was a blessing in disguise. Really really 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: had to take kind of a good, long, hard look 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: at myself and make some changes if I wanted to 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: play this game. You know that I love for a 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: long time, and I think it was the best decision 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: at the time. 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, adversity, man, it's a tough pill to swallow, but 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: at the same time, once you come out of it, 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: you understand, you know why, and you know what the 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: purpose was. But my question to you for this oriole team, now, 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 5: what's going to get them back over the hump? 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Man? 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a really good organization, a really 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: good team. I've I've talked about it all the time. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: I know the injuries are mounting up but what can 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 5: get them back. 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. I I don't think it's 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: the lack of talent. I'll put our lineup against every 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: lineup in baseball and we'll have a really good chance 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: avoiding that whatever day it is. I think probably the 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: biggest thing is all of you guys have heard it. 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: You can't lose or you can't win a division in 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: April and May, but you can lose it. I think 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: we just had such a slow start this year that 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: you know, we got in such a big hole and. 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: It was just really tough for us to climb out of. 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I think all of us, you know, 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: we're pretty pretty young team, very talented team, but I 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: think we're gonna have to make that next step as 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: far as you know, putting our big boy pants on. 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: You know, with a lot of the veterans we're trade 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: away at the deadline this year, and we still have 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: a really solid young course. I think we're all gonna 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: have to make that next step going forward and just 67 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: knowing that we don't want this to happen next year 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: and really just putting in the work the rest of 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: this year and going into the offseason and really just 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: try to maintain the culture that they've built. 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: Here the past two years going forward. 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: Do you hear that from other guys? Do you hear 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: that from other guys in the locker room? I know, 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: pitchers and position players don't necessarily mix all the time, 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: but you're all young guys who are pushing hopefully towards 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: the same goal. But do you hear guys talk about that, like, 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: screw this year, We're gonna go out and win. We're 78 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: going to get back to what we were and the 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: expectation that everybody had for us. 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I could definitely say some guys are, 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: you know, say how it is pissed off the way 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: this year is gone because it's not the standard of 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: Orioles baseball. We expect a lot more. We expect to, 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, compete in the toughest division in baseball and 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: and be up there where the you know, the Blue Jays, 86 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: the Red Sox are at this year and even the Yankees. So, yeah, 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: guys aren't happy about it, but you know, you got 88 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: to accept where we are and make the best of 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: the situation this year and really just play our asses 90 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: off the rest of this year and going into next year, 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: just to make sure this this feeling, you know, playing 92 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: coming into September and not playing meaningful baseball doesn't happen again. 93 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: Who gets the most pissed off? I feel like watching 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: the watching the games, I feel like one guy has 95 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more of a temper than other guys. 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: But who gets the most pissed off? And we'll call 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: guys out? And I'm not saying call guys out in 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: the sense that some people think like good constructive, like 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: let's get it going boys. 100 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if some guys are better at hiding 101 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: it than others, but I mean everyone from top down. 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: You know, Gunner's very passionate, Wes Westbrook's very passionate, Jackson, 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean addly Mounie. I mean, it keeps going on, 104 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: even the starting rotation. You know, they're not happy the 105 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: way this season has gone. The coaching staff isn't But 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, you can look at two ways. You can 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: moan and groan about how the season is not gone 108 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: the way we wanted, or we can make the best 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: of the opportunity ahead of us and keep playing hard, 110 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: meaningful baseball, playing for each other each and every day 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: until the last game is said, and done. So you know, 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: guys aren't happy, but you know they use that to 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: their advantage. You know, we got a lot of intense 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: guys that love playing the game, and you know, it's 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: really just fun watching watching those guys compete every day. 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Hey, Trevor, let's go back to the trade for a moment. 117 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: So you get moved from the Marlins, and they weren't 118 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: really in contention. Of course, Oils are looking to do damage. 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: They make the playoffs last year, and it was a 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: battle for you to get back to where you are now, 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: and now you're thriving. Did you look at the trade 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: and then kind of put extra on yourself and be like, hey, 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: they gave up some pretty good players here, they're starting 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: caliber players. One has become an All Star and Kyle Sowers, Like, 125 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: was anything like that on your mind? And also, just 126 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: take me through the trade in general, moving over from 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Miami to Baltimore and what changed. 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really think about it at the time, 129 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: because you know, I was so worried, you know, I 130 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: got to have results, got to do this, got to 131 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: do that. And when I got traded over and I 132 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: wasn't doing what I knew that I could do, for 133 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: this organization. And I saw what Stours and Norby were doing. 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I've obviously played in Miami for four years. 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: It's not a very hit or friendly park. And to 136 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: see what those guys were doing this, like, holy cow, 137 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: that's impressive. So it put a lot of unwanted pressure 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: as far as like, oh, I got to make sure 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: this this trade wasn't a bust, and and and just 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: so on and so forth. You know, just a lot 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: of outside noise that I was listening to that. You know, 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: I've made a better adjustment this year just tossing all 143 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: that out. My bubble is really small, so yeah, I 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: saw that and really kind of just changed my mindset 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: and outlook on this year, you know, just controlling what 146 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: I can control and really just go out and execute pitches. 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: And you know, just and I've said it again, I'll 148 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: say it again, just showing what the organization, uh, just 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: show them what I can do. 150 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: Okay, KP. 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: This is your first arena club experience. We're gonna open 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: a slab pack together. So first off, we're gonna buy 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: one of those twenty five dollars slab packs and we 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: get to see what is in the past there. It 155 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: is the grail, which is the best card in the 156 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: pack and worth the most. There are some other cards 157 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: that we're chasing, and you can see the entire lineup 158 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: so that you know what you're in the running for. 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: There's the Yamamoto signed card. Now let's open up our 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: pack and see how we do. We have ourselves a 161 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: really cool graphic and then a show. Hey o, Tani, 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty card from last year, what do you 163 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: want to do? Should we sell it right back to 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: them for sixteen or should we keep it? 165 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: You should give it to me, I'll. 166 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Keep good answer, fine, I will give it to you. 167 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: Since the Blue Jays didn't getto Tani, you can get 168 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: this fifty to fifty card instead and use the code 169 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: foul foul to get yourself twenty percent off your first 170 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: slab pack or card purchase. Yes, you get to keep 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: that card if you want it. They send it to 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: you foul at Arena Club dot com slash foul. 173 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: It's gotta be trust. It's got to be trust because 174 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: you sound like your mindset is just completely different. Because 175 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 3: if you look back at your triple A numbers from 176 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: this year, nobody would have expected this take us through that, 177 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: Take us through that because some people look, some people 178 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: have never played. Look solely at oh yeah, look at 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: his triple A numbers. There's no way he's gonna do well. 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: Talk through that in a mental standpoint, but also in 181 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: like the execution of it actually out on a big 182 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: league mount. 183 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that people outside of the 184 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: game don't know that you gotta be honest, it's really 185 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: hard to be locked in and stay locked in for 186 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: triple A starts because you know, you be in the 187 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: big leagues for a couple of years and then you 188 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: get sent down. I mean, win or lose in triple A, 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: you don't really really care. 190 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: You just want to get back to the big leagues. 191 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: And I mean you want to perform, and you want 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: to win because that's part of the performance. 193 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: But it's just it's really hard to get. 194 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Locked in, and you know, the adrenaline isn't there. You know, 195 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: there's a couple of thousand people in the stands instead 196 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: of you know, forty thousand. It's just it doesn't mean 197 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: as more as much as big league games do. But 198 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: you also, you know, you can't let that be an 199 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: excuse and for whatever reason, I've always I've always struggled, 200 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: whether it's rehab outings or you know, getting options of pitching, 201 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: because you know, it's just it's hard to see what 202 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: the guy's approaches are down in Triple A because you 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: know they're just they haven't really found their approach yet, 204 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: and you know they're just swinging and it seems like 205 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: every ball is falling. So you know, it's always been 206 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: tough for me to kind of, you know, make that 207 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: adjustment down there. 208 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: But you know I was. 209 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: I got called up for that double header in Boston 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: in May and made the most of it. 211 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: And the rest is history. 212 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: All right, Well, what about moving forward? Is there something 213 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: that you sit here and you go, Okay, you're thirteen 214 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: starts right now in the big leagues are a freaking elite. 215 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: Let alone August, You've only give it up a run 216 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: each start. Like, moving forward, not just September, but moving 217 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: forward to next year. Are there things that you did 218 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: this past off season to get yourself ready that you're like, dang, 219 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: if I get a whole off season of that, where 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: can I get to what level? Can I truly get 221 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: to back to another All Star Game? That level that 222 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: you were when you first broke into the big leagues. 223 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it goes back to, you know, just 224 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: the very basic stuff, you know, just lower body strength, 225 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: a lot of low back injuries, and just stuff that 226 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: was limiting my ability to you know, be as strong 227 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: as I could. I mean, there are starts where my 228 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: back hurts so bad that you know, I just had 229 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: to hold my breath to make sure it didn't it 230 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: didn't hurt when I released the ball, so that that happens, 231 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: and you know, you just try to be smarter in 232 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: the weight room. 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: And my version of being smarter at. 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: The time was, you know, just stop stop lifting and 235 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: just try to be as healthy as I can. What's 236 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: the downfall was is I kind of got I lost 237 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: all my strength. So that was like the big thing 238 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: when I went over the drive line is they showed 239 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: me the graph of where my strength was compared to 240 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: like the big league average, and I mean there's probably 241 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: that big of a gap between where I was and 242 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: where the big. 243 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: League average was. So that was the big thing. 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: Get my my lower body strength back, and then just 245 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: fixing up a couple of mechanical cues that I've kind 246 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,239 Speaker 2: of built over the past. 247 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: Couple of years. 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: Just bad habits, and we really knocked those two things 249 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: out and it's been it's been really good this year. 250 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: So really just this coming off season, really focusing on 251 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: that even more, and in a couple of small other 252 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: details as well. 253 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Like can you go back to what you're saying about 254 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: drive line, your your your strength was below oh big 255 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: league average for your lower body? Is that what she said? 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you played Was that your fifth big league 258 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: season when you found this out? 259 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: Yep? Yeah? 260 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: How was this not found before? We're always I'm always taught. 261 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm always intrigued by organizations that that are ahead of 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: the curve, behind the curve. You had to go to 263 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: a third party outside of an organization to find this out. 264 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: Do you feel like if you had been given this 265 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: information before, you would have at least brought that back up. 266 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: If not, Based on what like I'm hearing from you, 267 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: it seems like you're super competitive, you probably would have 268 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: gone twenty percent over the league average. But do you 269 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: feel like this is like it was almost wasted time 270 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: that you didn't know this before. 271 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: That's that's a good question. I So when I first 272 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: had my first back injury the end of twenty one, 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: I came back in twenty two and the velocity was 274 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: still there. I think it was the repetitive back injuries 275 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: and the repetitive you know, my back just shows that crap. 276 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: So it was like the slow regression of you know, 277 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: let's just completely knock this out lower body wise, Let's 278 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: do a couple of movements that feel good, because that's 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: what matters. We just want to keep you on the 280 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: field and go from there. I try not to have 281 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: any regrets because that's part of the story, that's part 282 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: of the you know, what my career is, and I've 283 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: always taken it as you know, I've learned throughout the way, 284 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: every step through this journey. But I do I do 285 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: think sometimes, you know, if if I had to do 286 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: it over again, I would have gone sooner. But everything 287 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: works out for a reason. I think the stars aligned 288 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: and I went at the perfect time. And I'm just 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: happy that we found the issue and we were able 290 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: to tackle it. You know, if there wasn't a problem 291 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: and they couldn't find a problem, might be probably in 292 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: a lot worse spot. 293 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: Than than I was. 294 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: So I'm just glad that there was a problem and 295 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: we were able to attack it and resolve it. 296 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about your arm 297 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: angle too as well. You know, I'm not saying it's 298 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: a problem. You kind of got that lower arm angle 299 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: for a bigger picture. You know, bum Gardner did kind 300 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 5: of the same thing, but he had that longer release. 301 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: Can you talk a little bit about that. Did you 302 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 5: develop that over time or was that just the natural 303 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 5: way that you threw the ball? 304 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a natural way that I threw the ball before. 305 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: This was when I was a lot younger, before I 306 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: even saw video. I thought I was I was kershaw. 307 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: I was way up here over the top, and they 308 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: saw the video and I was way out here. I 309 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: was like, oh crap, Okay, that's not exactly what I felt. 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: But Phil versus real, right, So that's that's kind of 311 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: always how I threw the baseball. So yeah, I don't 312 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: know where it came from or it was just a 313 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: natural way of throwing the baseball, but yeah, that's kind 314 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: of always how. It's how it's been, all right, what 315 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: do you do in your free time? What do you 316 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: do when you're not dominating big league hitters? 317 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: And you're like, I got I got I got two 318 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: hours to kill, I got two hours of kill in 319 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: this city or you know, we got an off day. 320 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: What's what's Trevor going to besides hitting lower lower body? 321 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been My wife has been a lot better, 322 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: trying to get me out and trying new restaurants. 323 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: I'm I'm very playing James. 324 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: Just give me your burger, give me, give me something, 325 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: give me shoot, give me ramen noodles. 326 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: I don't care. 327 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: So I've been better at, you know, expanding my palate 328 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: a little bit. Big, big lego guy, a big lego guy. 329 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: I love legos. We'll build him in the off season 330 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: all the time. And I love to go and read, 331 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: so kind of just those four things. I don't really 332 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: do a whole lot outside of that pretty boring guy, 333 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: So I just try to keep it simple. 334 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: Really wait wait, wait, wait, nuts, that's not boring. First 335 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: of all, did you did you have you gotten sick 336 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: eating anything that she's had you eat? And do you 337 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: glue your legos together? Because he's not here today. Aj 338 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Prazinski is huge into legos and he's he is lord business. 339 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: He Yeah, Aj is normally normally here where Todd is. 340 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: Phil is my guy today, but he glues his together 341 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: and I think that is like communist. 342 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: I can't. 343 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: I can't, I can't. 344 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: That's that's that's a little crazy. I'd never even thought 345 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: about that. That that's I don't think I have the 346 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: patience to glue them. If they fall apart, then they 347 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: fall apart. I think I need to do a better 348 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: job of building them. But uh, but as far as 349 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: the food food goes, I mean, shoot, I grew up 350 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: on taco bell, So I don't think anything's gonna get 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: this stomach get this stomach upset. 352 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: So stomach is still wait. I totally just realized this 353 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: as we're getting towards the end of the conversation. Do 354 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: you know who we spoke to on this show yesterday? 355 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: We had a guest on this show who you know 356 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: pretty well, Like, I think you're related to him, Cody Ross. Yeah, dude, 357 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: how crazy is this? We mostly have current players on, 358 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: especially during the season. We're at a tournament in Alabama 359 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: and I was just looking because I know you played 360 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: ball in New Mexico. And we asked Cody best player 361 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: ever out of New Mexico, and he brought up Alex Bregman, 362 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, I should ask him this question. 363 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: And then I look and it says his cousin Cody 364 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: played for nine to one teams. I'm like, what, wait, 365 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: so Cody's your cousin. 366 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's my cousin. 367 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: So his dad and my mom's mom or brother and sister, 368 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: so I think that second cousins or something like that. 369 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, he was. He was big for me growing up. 370 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to be him, you know, coming 371 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: from the same hometown and just seeing everything that he accomplished. 372 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: So he was definitely big for me growing up. 373 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: Dude, that is crazy. 374 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 375 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean we're on every single day and we've had 376 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: Cody on one other time a few years ago. But 377 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So what's the new Mexico baseball scene? 378 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: Like, let's finish with that. 379 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean, there haven't been many players that have come 380 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: out and been stars like yourself and Bragman and obviously 381 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Cody when he was playing. So what's the scene like there. 382 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very you know, underrated. 383 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: There's some teams in Albuquerque, Le Cueva, El Dorado, Cleveland, 384 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: especially Le Cueva. They were I mean I hated playing 385 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 2: them because they were so good. I think at one point, 386 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: maybe twenty years ago, they're national champions for all of 387 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: high school baseball, so you know, they're just a powerhouse 388 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: every year. 389 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 4: And then you and him and NMSU. 390 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: Kyle Bradish actually told me in spring training that he 391 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: went to NMSU, so that was that was pretty cool. 392 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: So you know, they're just pumping out really good college 393 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: talent and definitely wouldn't be surprised if there's more high 394 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: school talent coming up in the in the next couple 395 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: of years. 396 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 5: Very cool. 397 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: We all have to do it what Cody does because 398 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I know Cody's big, you know, and tries to you know, 399 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: mentor anybody that's coming from from New Mexico. And I 400 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: know he was pretty tight with pregnant and obviously tight 401 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: with you given the family ties. So that's really cool. Trevor, 402 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: awesome conversation. Thanks thanks for joining us, Keep doing your thing. 403 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. 404 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. I enjoyed it.