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Speaker 3: Off the top the.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder and a must win game delivered I

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Speaker 2: in just shocking fashion, the New York Knicks come back

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Speaker 2: So how did Oklahoma City bounce back in Game two?

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Speaker 2: I think there's obviously, in these sorts of situations, a

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Speaker 2: there's naturally a little bit of a relaxation in Game two.

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Speaker 2: Like Jdubb's rim pressure in that early second quarter shift

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Speaker 2: Kaison had one of those impressive transition sequences. He had

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Speaker 2: thought it was an extremely impressive offensive game from okay

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Speaker 2: really kicked Joki's ass in this game and all of

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Speaker 2: one more turnovers tonight and scored thirty four points off

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Speaker 2: It was a twenty point advantage in that specific margin

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Speaker 2: But I bet you when we pull the rim finishing

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Speaker 2: shot below forty percent at the rim or within five

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Speaker 2: Denver at fifty four points in the paint. They finished

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Speaker 2: Like the Thunder just threw an incredible punch. They absolutely

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Speaker 2: They ended up getting eight players in double figures tonight,

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, when that dude's also facing

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Speaker 2: clear window available. I thought in general, Jokics just kind

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Speaker 2: I thought they missed a couple of really good looks

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Speaker 2: They had five like wide open threes for Christian Brown

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Speaker 2: I still like their shot quality when they don't turn

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Speaker 2: both of them just look really uncomfortable their misses right now.

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Speaker 2: Game two yet, but I'm still sticking with OKC to

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Speaker 2: think it's much much closer to a coin flip than

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Speaker 2: what I saw before the series, which was I didn't

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Speaker 2: long series, end up picking Oklahoma City in seven if

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Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma City deserves to still be the favorite.

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Speaker 2: I would pick them to win the series at this point,

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Speaker 2: for instance, like winning three and four, losing Game five,

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Speaker 2: think the clear advantage for Oklahoma City that is shown

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Speaker 2: it's just their speed, it's their drible penetration and what

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Speaker 2: I think that's what keeps me from bailing on my

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Speaker 2: let's go on to Boston, New York. What an insane

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Speaker 2: they go down twenty. They've been Pacers esque with their

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Speaker 2: On basically concession threes from the Celtics defense. He knocked

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Speaker 2: classic kind of move mint threes, but several of them

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Speaker 2: was actually playing pretty well and continued to kind of

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00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 2: stiff arm the Knicks, but mcale bridges just kept scoring

436
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: and then he hit this three believe off of the

437
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: right wing that cut the lead to seven right around

438
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: the middle of the fourth quarter, and then Brunson came

439
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: in and Brunson just completely took over the game from there.

440
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 2: And once again late in the game, he gets a

441
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 2: big three off of an offensive rebound from Josh Hart.

442
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 2: He finds a matchup that he likes in drawing two

443
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: on the ball with Horford that ends up setting up

444
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: Josh Hart with a layup that he missed, but he

445
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: occupied the rim protector, so Carl Anthony Towns was able

446
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: to get an offensive rebound put back for an end one.

447
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: And then late in the.

448
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Game, just continually every single game in this postseason when

449
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: the Knicks need him to generate offense late, like he's

450
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 2: literally coming through every single time. Like, I don't think

451
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: people realize how crazy this is. Crunch time basketball is

452
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: extremely hard, the refs swallow the whistle, all of the

453
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: defenders are playing at a higher level of intensity. Drew

454
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: Holliday once again, like just refusing to give up switches,

455
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: fighting through screens where like there were a coup several

456
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: possessions late where Jalen Brunson had to create a shot

457
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: against Drew Holliday like he regardless of this incredible difficulty

458
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: of these situations, He's literally coming through every single game.

459
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: This is crazy, guys. This is one of the most

460
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: reliably great clutch performers I've ever watched. And you know, again,

461
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: those Drew ISOs Like Drew Holliday is consistently throughout the

462
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: season done a phenomenal job one on one against Jaylen Brunt,

463
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: and he's the one guy on the Celtics that he

464
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: really struggles to get separation from. And twice down the

465
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 2: stretch there were like three possessions where he attacked him directly,

466
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: and on two of those possessions he managed to score

467
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: a nasty one leg fade away, got his shoulder into

468
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: Drew and then just leaned back on a one leg

469
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: fadeaway around the right elbow, and then he drew a foul.

470
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: On that final possession, the one that got the lead.

471
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: He knew Drew is going to be aggressive. He knew

472
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: Drew was going to be physical, and he just trusted

473
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: his handle, He trusted his counter movee spun off of Drew,

474
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: Drew got out of position, Drew had no choice but

475
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: to start hacking him, and he drew a foul there

476
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: to get to the line. So again four points out

477
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: of those late ISOs against Drew Holliday. That like, that's

478
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: really high level production in those situations. He got a

479
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: transition right handed layup on Al Horford, just taking, you know,

480
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: being opportunistic about an advantage that presented itself in transition,

481
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: just kind of shot the gap, got around Horford, got

482
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: to that right handed layup. I just can't say enough

483
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: about Jalen Brunson and the job that he's on in

484
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: the clutch for this team. But I want to hold

485
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: off about the conversation about him and where he stands

486
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: among the guards right now because he was incredible on

487
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: defense in this game again, but I want to talk

488
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: about the Nicks defense in the big picture. We talked

489
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: a lot about Ognnobi and McHale Bridges after Game one,

490
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: and those guys were amazing again tonight. Like Og forced

491
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Tatum into a really tough left shoulder fade on a

492
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: clutch possession late kind of a late clock situation where

493
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 2: Tatum had no choice but to attack him, defended him

494
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: extremely well. McKale Bridges had that late peel off of

495
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: jaln Brown where he got the deflection off of Tatum

496
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: on the final possession that forced the turnover. They both

497
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: had big, like kind of help defense sequences in the

498
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, out of the post, like McHale

499
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: Bridges scram Duce McBride out of a post mismatch Porzingis slipped.

500
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: He had McBride. He scrammed him out of it and

501
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: actually forced Porzingis to give up the ball and they

502
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: ended up forcing a miss. Ognanobe he had that big

503
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: baseline double team on a post up late in the game.

504
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Those guys were amazing. They do so much to clean

505
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: up messes for this Knicks defense. But I want to

506
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: shout out two other guys tonight, Mitchell Robinson and Jalen Brunson.

507
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: First of all, Mitchell Robinson. One of the big reasons

508
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: why he continues to be such a reliable piece for

509
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: New York in this matchup is his ability to defend

510
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: in switches plus nineteen tonight in twenty two misses or

511
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes. I'm pulling up the plus minus from

512
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: game one because I wanted to see in Game one

513
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: he was plus thirteen and twenty one minutes. So they've

514
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: consistently been very good with Mitchell Robinson on the floor.

515
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: And a big part of it is is we saw,

516
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, they can attack Karl Anthony Towns and pick

517
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: and roll. That was how Tatum drew that late foul call,

518
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: the one that brought the three point lead down to two,

519
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: was he just basically flipped a screening angle on Cat.

520
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: He Cat had to rush over to the other side

521
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: of the screen. He quickly split him with the crossover

522
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: dribble and then Cat had no choice but to hack

523
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: him as he was going downhill. But like for the

524
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: most part, Mitchell Robinson when he switches in those ball screens,

525
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: has been able to keep the ball in front, force

526
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: them into a contested mid range pull up or a

527
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: contested three point pull up, and that's winning those matchups

528
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: because Tatum and Brown can't make that shot right now.

529
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: Both of them are just so broke with their jump

530
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: with their jump shot. And like there's a little thing

531
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: that you saw there late that the play where Tatum

532
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 2: got the dunk to get the lead, the dead giveaway

533
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: or the obvious difference was that they just gave Tatum

534
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: a massive runway and let him run the length of

535
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: the floor and they set the ball screen damn near

536
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: at half court, and so he was already he had

537
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: such a head of steam by the time he got

538
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: to Mitchell Robinson that it was so easy for him

539
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: to break him off with a simple move there. But

540
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson's defense and his ability to switch in pick

541
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: and roll on those guys has been a huge part

542
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: of how they've been able to be so good defensively

543
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: in the lineups. When he's on the floor, Joe Mizula

544
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: like flat out admitted after the game that he's hacking him,

545
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: not even because of the free throws. He's hacking him

546
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: because he's trying to get TIBs to take him off

547
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: the floor, like freely admitted it is like like like

548
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: he said after the game, he was like, I hacked

549
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: him on that late passez just to get TIBs to

550
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: take him off, get off the floor, because look at

551
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: his plus minus and then look at the plus minus

552
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: of all the starters. I thought that was a super

553
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 2: interesting bit. Like, first of all, for tip for uh

554
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: Missoula to even admit that in that situation, I thought

555
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: was fascinating. But yeah, it's Mitch has been kicking everybody's butt.

556
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: And then Jalen Brunson. I shouted at him out if

557
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: you guys remember after game one for a couple of

558
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: key defensive sequences. He had two stops against Tatum on

559
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: an island where he beat him to spots and forced

560
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: him into tough pull ups. He battled Horford on a

561
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: couple of post mismatches where he fronted the post. A

562
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: bunch of the same stuff again tonight, just battling in

563
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: post mismatches, being willing to hold up on an island

564
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: again with both guys. With Kat and with Brunson, they're

565
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: still mixing in the hedge and recover with Brunson, They're

566
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: still mixing in a bunch of drop with Kat, you know,

567
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: just just to try to you know, one of the

568
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: interesting subplots here is I think part of the reason

569
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: why TIBs is sticking with that is because Boston shooting

570
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: the ball so poorly, Because like they're getting clean looks

571
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: out of a lot of those actions late in the game.

572
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: They got Horford a couple of wide open looks in

573
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: pick and pop situations late in the game, just like that.

574
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: But they're just Brunson is competing defensively and it's making

575
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: a world of difference. Cat is still really struggling, but

576
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Brunson has made it so that there's one really weak

577
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: defender on the flour instead of two. And like I

578
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: talked a lot about, you know, during the Knick struggles

579
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: this year, I've talked a lot about the idea that

580
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: they kind of you know, that teams have missed the

581
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: point about what made Boston great. You know, what made

582
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Boston great wasn't necessarily just Tatum and Brown. Obviously those

583
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: guys are a big part of it, but it's that

584
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: they can keep putting together these five man lineups where

585
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: all five defenders are great. And like, by the way,

586
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Boston's not losing this series because of defense. They held

587
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: the Knicks to ninety one points tonight. They the Celtics

588
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: can guard one through five in basically all of their lineups,

589
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: the majority of their lineups, with exception to like Porzingis

590
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: is like the guy that they're really struggling to guard

591
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: with in this particular phase of the season. But like

592
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: with the Knicks, one of the reasons why they never

593
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: had any sort of sustained success against great teams this year, frankly,

594
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: any success against great teams this year was because Brunson

595
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: and Cat were these like obvious entry points, and so

596
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how good Mkale is on the ball,

597
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how good Og is on the ball. They're

598
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: just in rotation too much. And like Brunson being able

599
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: to hold his ground the way that he's been holding

600
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: his ground in conjunction with the job that Mkale and

601
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: Og are doing and all these help and recover situations

602
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: and Josh Hart as well, it's just made it so

603
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: that the Knicks defense is so much more sturdy in

604
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: these spots. And like obviously there's a Celtics element with

605
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: them knocking down shots. And you know this will bear

606
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: out over the course of the series. Like whether you

607
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: want to ask me whether or not the Knicks can

608
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: win this series, it really is gonna come down to

609
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: whether or not that defense can hold up, because we're

610
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: gonna talk about Boston here in a minute. Boston was

611
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: consistently better on the road than they were at home.

612
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: This here, this series is not over Boston. I would

613
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: not be even the slightest bit surprised if Boston went

614
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: down to MSG in one to two and brought this

615
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: series back to Boston at two to two. So like

616
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: this is not over. But the pathway for the Knicks

617
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: is that defense that we just talked about, holding up, Brunson,

618
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: holding up to help and recover, holding up, just them

619
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: in general holding up on that end of the floor.

620
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: But hell of a punch from the Knicks, you know,

621
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: it's so funny. I was talking with Josh Rodriguez. He's

622
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: a guy used to do some work for this show,

623
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: a big Knicks fan, and we were talking after Game seven,

624
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: Game six of the Piston series, and he was like, man,

625
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: Knicks fans are so sick of this team because they

626
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: just didn't have the same like juice, competitive juice that

627
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: they did in last year's team. And you know, like

628
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: you Cat's joking after the series, like we just like

629
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: to do things the hard way, and it's like, well,

630
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: you guys kind of don't do the work for large

631
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: stretches of games and make things really difficult on yourself.

632
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, it's like all come to fruition

633
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: here in the first two games of the series, and

634
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this looks like a Knicks team

635
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: that has a decent chance to win the title, Like

636
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: they're a legitimate threat in a way that I did

637
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: not see them as a legitimate threat at all coming

638
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: into this postseason run. So shout out to the Knicks

639
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: for discovering a sturdy defensive identity. And then there's the

640
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: second piece of it, which is Jalen Brunson. And again,

641
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: like this is a conversation for the summer, and I

642
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: would lean Steph still at this point because I just

643
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: am such a believer in late round playoff success. But

644
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, you know, especially with Steph starting to age out,

645
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson is making a strong case to be the

646
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: best small guard in the league with the way that

647
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: he's been playing as of late, for him to be

648
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: as sturdy defensively as he has been, and then to

649
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: just routinely be arguably the very best closer in all

650
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: of basketball. To the point where the Knicks did the

651
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: job of getting them into two close games against the

652
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Celtics late and twice Jalen Brunson they aired down Jason

653
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: Tatum and was just flat out better than him. And

654
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: I just want to shout out Brunson. I think I

655
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: think he at the very least now has a case

656
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: to be the best small guard in the league. And

657
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: again we'll approach that again this summer, but man like,

658
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: he's just playing at a crazy high level. So let's

659
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: talk about Boston's offense couple of things. First of all,

660
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: the hilarious thing was that after OG's offensive foul when

661
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: he dunked all over, who was it that got in

662
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: front of him?

663
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Was it Derek White?

664
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: I think it was Derek White. Dunk's all over, Derek White.

665
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Derek White gets the charge call and the Celtics immediately

666
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: go on a run and blow the lead.

667
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: Up to twenty.

668
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: What's hilarious is after the charge they got five buckets

669
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: right at the rim. In that run to get it

670
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: up to twenty. Derek White went right through brunts into

671
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: the rim. Tatum went had this angry looking post up

672
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: at Michale Bridges where he just backed him down and

673
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: got right to the front of the rim. Derek White

674
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: had another driving layup and pick and roll. Then Tatum

675
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: and White both said up Cornette and porzingis for buckets

676
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: right at the front of the rim. They got that

677
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: lead up to twenty getting stuff right at the rim.

678
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about that in a little bit

679
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: as it pertains to the versatility element. But honestly, guys,

680
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: Like when I watched the second half of Game one,

681
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: I was like, I called it CTE basketball as a joke,

682
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: but like it was just an enormous amount of poor

683
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: process and terrible shot selection. I didn't feel that way

684
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: at all watching the second half of this game. I

685
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: thought their process was generally good, and I thought they

686
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: mostly got great shots. Yes, there were some bad ones

687
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: mixed in there. That Tatum had that bad left shoulder

688
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: fade over og Nnobi in clutch time that he missed.

689
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: Jlen Brown had a shot where he went right at

690
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Brunson and tried to like grift a foul around the

691
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: left elbow. That was a bad possession obviously. The final

692
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: possession where Tatum shot tried to pass out of a

693
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: double team and turned it over against Michel Bridges, that

694
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: was a bad possession. But there was a lot of

695
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: good you know. I saw Jason Tatum trying to split

696
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: ball screens against cat and Mitchell Robinson late and getting

697
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: to the rim. Jalen Brown did.

698
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Have a play where he tried to bully.

699
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson right to the front of the rim and

700
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: he just missed like a really easy shot right at

701
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: the front of the rim, and like Horford butt naked

702
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: three in the right corner missed, Derek White butt naked

703
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: three on the left wing missed. Jason Tatum and Jalen

704
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Brown both missed about the easiest wide open threes you'll

705
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: ever see down the stretch of this game. Tatum's was

706
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: off the catch in the right corner and kind of

707
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: a semi transition sequence. Jylen Brown missed one at the

708
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: top of the key out of a ball screen where

709
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: there was nobody up at the level and the screen

710
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: wiped out the defense. I mean he's standing unguarded. And

711
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: so it was very different from Game one in the

712
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: sense that, like you know, the Celtics of Tate, the

713
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: Celtics took sixty threes in Game one, but they were

714
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: bad threes. I've seen the Celtic take fifty to fifty

715
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: five threes in a game and have them mostly be

716
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: good threes. It has nothing to do with the volume

717
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: of threes for me, It has to do with where

718
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: they get them. But there is a reality to the

719
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: fact that if your offense is primarily designed to generate

720
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: threes and the propensity of the team is to hunt

721
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: those threes, even if they're good threes, every three has

722
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: a certain degree of variance to it. To take it

723
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: a step further, shooting in general is kind of a

724
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: mind fuck. The best shooters in the world don't make

725
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: half their threes, meaning like, if you take a three,

726
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 2: you're probably going to miss, and so as they start

727
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: to stack up on you, often it can get in

728
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: your head you start to tweak your release. Like, guys,

729
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum's jump shot has not just been off, it's been.

730
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Way off over the course of this year.

731
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: He's clearly in his head about it, because that's what

732
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: happens when when shots start to miss, it can spiral

733
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: on you.

734
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: You know.

735
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of like analytical attempts over the

736
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: years to try to explain shooting variants, and I've seen

737
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: pieces that try to say that there's no such thing

738
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: as the hot hand. I don't have any idea of

739
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: how to explain it to you, guys, other than to

740
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: say that if you've played, you know, you know that

741
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: it's a real thing, and it could just as easily flip.

742
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: They could go into game three and suddenly Tatum, Brown

743
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: and White could go, you know, twelve for twenty from

744
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: three and they could blow out the Knicks and you know,

745
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: send this to a game for it two games to one.

746
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: But there is variance. It's an inherent part of shooting,

747
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: and it tends to be streaky. It tends to be

748
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: as a team you'll go cold and as a team

749
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: you'll go hot. There is a momentum behind that sort

750
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: of thing. Now, this is where the variety comes into

751
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: the to the picture. The closer you can get to

752
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: the basket with pet action, meaning like let's say that

753
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum just made a concerted effort to post up

754
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: legitimately like six seven, eight, nine times a game. If

755
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: he made that effort, that makes it so that there's

756
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: a huge chunk of the way that he can generate

757
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: offense that generates shots that are closer to the rim.

758
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: The closer you get to the rim, the less variance

759
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: there is. Tatum is absolutely big and strong enough to

760
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: be a guy that can bump a defender off and

761
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: take a left shoulder hook. There's nothing that says that

762
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: he can't take that type of shot. Tatum, also with

763
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: his jump shot, will have less variants on short, little

764
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: ten foot turnarounds. Then he will on seventeen foot turnarounds

765
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: or on three point shots. As a team, this offense

766
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: is entirely geared around the ability to generate three point shots.

767
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: This is where I got to go to the stars

768
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: and guys like Jason Tatum had the best season of

769
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: his career, and this was the first season where I

770
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: said that I thought that he was a legitimate top

771
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: tier superstar in this league. He combined the versatility that

772
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: he had really built out over the previous years as

773
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: a big, strong athlete that could do everything as a

774
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: rebounder and as a defender. He combined that with a

775
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: dramatically improved overall just like floor presence as a playmaker

776
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: and as just like a half court kind of flow

777
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: of the game guy. And then he took a leap

778
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: as a shot maker to the extent to where he

779
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: looked fantastic in the first round. But as I've consistently said,

780
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: like when Tatum can't make his jump shot, he is

781
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: no longer a top tier superstar in this league. And

782
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: the reason is is because he doesn't have any elite

783
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: first step that can consistently beat people off the dribble

784
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: good defenders, and he doesn't have any sort of legitimate, reliable,

785
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: close range game, and so if his jump shot isn't there,

786
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: if he can't rely on that piece of his offense,

787
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: he dramatically dips overall as an offensive talent. And suddenly

788
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: this Celtics team and again, like remember last year when

789
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: Tatum was faltering, Jylen Brown was playing the best basketball

790
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: of his career. The problem is is Jalen Brown is

791
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: also in just as big of a shooting slum. And

792
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: so it's really tricky because the two guys that are

793
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: primarily responsible for generating shots for this offense are two

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: guys that rely on consistently getting to the rim and

795
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: knocking down pull up jump shots. And neither of them

796
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: can get to the rim right now, and neither of

797
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: them can make their jump shot. And so all of

798
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: a sudden, you have a Celtics offense that, even though

799
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: they're surrounded by all of this play finishing talent, they

800
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: are unable to generate something that doesn't have a great

801
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: deal of variance involved, which is that three point shot attack.

802
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: When we look at the top players in the league,

803
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: when you look at like Nikola Jokics, for instance, his

804
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: game is impervious to variants because he shoots like sixty

805
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: five percent on shots that are within ten feet of

806
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: the basket that are not layups. Shake Gildos, Alexander is

807
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: going to get into the mid range and he's over

808
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: fifty percent from there. He's much less susceptible to variants.

809
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: There.

810
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: These guys at the top of the league.

811
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: They have a reliable element to their game that at

812
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: this point in Tatum's career he hasn't really developed. And

813
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: so as a result, it's like Tatum's making jump shots.

814
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: He's the third best player in the league. Tatum's not

815
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: making jump shots, He's like the eighth or ninth best

816
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: player in the league. And like you want to know

817
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: why the Celtics are down two, oh, it's because their

818
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: best player is like completely decomposing in these games. Now, again,

819
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: the series is not over. I would not be the

820
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: slightest bit surprised if Boston went down in one game, three, four, five,

821
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: and six. But it's going to turn on Jason Tatum.

822
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: If Tatum goes down there and gets back to that

823
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: top tier, superstar level, the Celtics will win. If he

824
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: goes down there and drops another five for seventeen, then

825
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: they're not going to win.

826
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: The series.

827
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: It like, once again, these series keep coming down to

828
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: the play of these superstars, and I just think it's

829
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: really fascinating. All right, let's bring Jackson. Let's take about

830
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: ten minutes of questions, and then we'll head over to playback.

831
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

832
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: Let's do some questions. We got mostly questions about the

833
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 5: Celtics game. We'll take a couple about some other stuff,

834
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: but let's start with this one, which I think is

835
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 5: sort of a prevailing sentiment. Is this the quote unquote

836
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: same old Celtics from twenty twenty three.

837
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: And sort of years past before they had gotten over

838
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: the hump and won the championship.

839
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: So game one felt like same old Celtics to me,

840
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: where they just took a lot of really bad shots.

841
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: I thought this game was mostly specifically about Tatum, like

842
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: I saw, I saw Celtics talking about it on Twitter.

843
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: I can't even remember who it was, but someone was

844
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: saying something along the lines of Tatum's in like the

845
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: complete upside down right now, and you can tell all

846
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: of the other players like don't know what to do

847
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: about it. Like you can tell all the other players

848
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: are like one of us should probably take control, but

849
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: like who's going to be the guy that goes like, hey, Tatum,

850
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: give me the ball, you know what I mean, And like,

851
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: that's like I thought. I thought this game in particular

852
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: came down to the fact that, like the Celtics stars

853
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: are just legitimately unable to make shots right now. Game

854
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: one felt much more like years past, where it's like,

855
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: why do these guys keep taking these really stupid shots?

856
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: But I didn't really have a problem with their shot

857
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: selection in the second half of this game. What did

858
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: you feel, like, your Celtics fan, Jackson, what did you

859
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: feel about the shot selection late in this game?

860
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: I thought the shot selection and the process was mostly

861
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 5: fine this game.

862
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 4: I agree with you in that sense.

863
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 5: The thing that I think you can point to you

864
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 5: if you were trying to say this is this quote

865
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: unquote same old Celtics is I think the same old

866
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: Celtics did two things poorly. They settled for way too

867
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: many threes, much like Game one. And then also they

868
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 5: were making a lot of the right plays, and they

869
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: were just like making a lot of the right plays

870
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: from a process standpoint, but not finishing those right plays.

871
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: And that's that's the version that you saw tonight. They

872
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: it's it.

873
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: Game one, it felt like they were playing stupid, they

874
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: were just playing so dumb, and this game, it's like it.

875
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: Almost felt a little bit worse.

876
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: It felt much more like a mental meltdown for me

877
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 5: than Game one because Game one they played so dumb,

878
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: like like we I have no problem saying they played

879
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: idiotic offensive basketball.

880
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: In Game one.

881
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: Right tonight, it's like they're in their head because they're

882
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: missing a lot of shots. You're seeing Jason Tatum brick

883
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: butt naked threes from the corner. Jalen Brown is missing

884
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: wide open threes. Al Horford is one for ten from

885
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: three this series. They are just bricking shots, missing them

886
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 5: badly in a way where you're like, man, are they

887
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: thinking about it?

888
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Are they?

889
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: And that's why I feel like it's a little bit

890
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: worse than Game one, because you see the Game one result.

891
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 5: Process wise, you've solved the problems from the Game one,

892
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: But once you get into the fourth quarter and the

893
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 5: Nicks start coming back, it's like, Uh, oh, are they

894
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: gonna do this? Are they gonna do this again? Are

895
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: we gonna do this again? You know, it's it's becoming

896
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: more of like, at least on the surface, I don't

897
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: know what these guys are actually thinking, obviously, but from

898
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: a viewer standpoint, it feels much more like they are.

899
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: Falling mentally as opposed.

900
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: To just playing a little bit stupid if you can

901
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: want to see you know, part of the difference of those.

902
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right about that. I think this

903
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: is like they are entering into the yips. Yeah, and

904
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a question of it's gonna be a

905
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: question of whether or not they can get that right.

906
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: They generated fourteen unguarded catch and shoot jump shots in

907
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: this game, made three of them, three of them. Like,

908
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: that's that's that's brutal and like, but that's the thing, Like, guys,

909
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: that was not what happened in game one. In game one,

910
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: they actually shot well on their open shots. In the

911
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: second half tonight, totally different second half. Seven unguarded jump

912
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: shots catch shoot zero point four to three points per attempt.

913
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: So like they just they're just they're just completely out

914
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: of whack with their jumptioning. But this is the thing, Like,

915
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: this is the advantage of having a player that can

916
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: consistently generate quality twos close to the rim. When you

917
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: have that type of player, it gives you a certain

918
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: floor offensively to where like even when you're missing your threes,

919
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: you're still getting a handful of layups during that stretch

920
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: or easier shots during that stretch that kind of raise

921
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: your floor, Like even like with Steph Curry, because like

922
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's always had a great deal of variance in

923
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: his game. I mean, the first half of the Rockets

924
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: game is a Rockets game seven is a good example, right,

925
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: But with Steph, he because he inverts the spacing by

926
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: bringing multiple defenders to the perimeter constantly.

927
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: He will generate easy twos.

928
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: For his teammates over the course of the game. Where

929
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: like you're seeing Steph like have a night where he

930
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: shoots poorly, but the offense still functions at a really

931
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: high level. And so Steph is like the one guy

932
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: that I can think of in my life that is

933
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: like a jump shooter primarily. That is, like there's variance

934
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: in his game, but there's still a pretty high floor

935
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: in those situations. And ultimately, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum

936
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: are incapable of generating quality two's on a consistent basis

937
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: close to the basket, which makes them very dependent on

938
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: tough jump shot making and that's been an issue for

939
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: them consistently in the series.

940
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's where you see the biggest

941
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: difference between those two players in Jalen Brunson.

942
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 4: Right.

943
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 5: And it's a thing that I've sort of I am

944
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: no problem admitting that I am generally pro analytics, and

945
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 5: that's why I'm a fan of the Celtics and missou

946
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: La ball as an overall concept. But the thing that

947
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: I think most people miss about analytics and the three

948
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 5: point in take away the mitt no more mid rent

949
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: shooting is three point shooting high volume is better from

950
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 5: a macro long term perspective, you are going points per shot.

951
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: The more shot you get in a high points per

952
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 5: shot better for your offense. Undeniable, it's just math. But

953
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 5: at the end of a game, when there's only so

954
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: many shots left to come in the game, it's not

955
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 5: about the best expected value of the shot, it's are

956
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 5: you going to score at all on the shot? Right,

957
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: Which is why it's not that doesn't become a one

958
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 5: point one to four game anymore. It becomes a two

959
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 5: or a zero, or a three or a zero. So

960
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 5: it's it's not about expected value, it's about is it

961
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: going to go in, which is why you want a

962
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: closer or a mid range shot or a you know

963
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 5: in the paint, a paint touch, which is what Jalen

964
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 5: Brunson is doing at a dramatically, dramatically dramatically higher level

965
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 5: than Tatum and Jalen Brown.

966
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Brunson can beat elite defenders off the dribble

967
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: consistently like that. That that's an important detail. Like he

968
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: solved Dennis Schroeder over the course of that series. Like

969
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: he was able to get close range twos or to

970
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: the foul line against Drew multiple times late him hitting

971
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: the gap against Horford. That's not to say that Tatum

972
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: can't do it. Tatum can, but Tatum needs like some

973
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: circumstances like oh, we got to give him a massive

974
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: runway and set the screen at half court, you know,

975
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: like that sort of thing for him beat a Mitchell

976
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: Robinson off the dribble, Whereas like, yeah, like if he

977
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: gets a favorable matchup, he can beat that guy off

978
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: the dribble. But like that's the thing, Like the Celtics

979
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: did that stuff well tonight. They did the hunting the

980
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: right matchups, building the advantages, generating the quality shots My

981
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: thing is like, sometimes you got to stare down the

982
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: best defender that's guarding you and be able to generate

983
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: a quality too.

984
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: Like that.

985
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 2: That's the difference that that like prevents Tatum from being

986
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: like a consistent guy that produces at that top tier

987
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: superstar level one hundred percent.

988
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

989
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: Sort of big picture here.

990
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: The Knicks now on DraftKings, are minus one twenty to

991
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: win the series. The Celtics are plus one hundred, so

992
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 5: Nick slightly favored over a pick them up too well

993
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: in the series going home? Where do you land on

994
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: the series at large? On that price on the Knicks,

995
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: you know, potential to actually win the series.

996
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: I think that's perfect. That's exactly how I'd put it.

997
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: I think the I think the Knicks deserve to be

998
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: slight favorites at this point. I think I think if

999
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: you're a Knicks fan and you think the series is over,

1000
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: you're an idiot, like I, Like I this is not

1001
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: the team that got almost swept by the Miami Heat

1002
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: and it ended up forcing a Game seven. Like that

1003
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: team was less mature, less able to like stabilize in

1004
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: terms of process, Like there's a chance that the Celtics

1005
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: come out and play the exact same game in Game

1006
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: three that they played in Game two and win by fifteen.

1007
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: Like they are, they are definitely capable of going down

1008
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: there and winning, but it's really hard to win four

1009
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: times in five prize and that dude Madison Square Garden

1010
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: is going to be bumping in Game three, and that's

1011
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: that's where I kind of feel like it makes sense

1012
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: for it to be a coin flip, because, like, I

1013
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: think the Knicks are about a coin flip to win

1014
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: Game three, even with like you're gonna get what whatever

1015
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: the best version of the Celtics is, You're getting that

1016
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: in Game three, like that, they're gonna come out like

1017
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: guns blazing in that game. But the Knicks are also

1018
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: going to be playing with an opportunity to really put

1019
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: the series away and to go up three to zero.

1020
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: So like I view that game as a coin flip,

1021
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: and I think whoever wins that game probably wins the series.

1022
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: And so at that with that being the case, it

1023
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: kind of feels to me like roughly a coin flip.

1024
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: But you get you're gonna obviously give the team that

1025
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: has like a big home court advantage at this point

1026
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: in the Knicks the advantage to.

1027
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: Put the hammer on the coin flip analogy to to

1028
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 5: to lose two twenty point leads, you also have to

1029
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 5: gain two twenty point leads. Right this, Celtons have been

1030
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 5: up by twenty in both games.

1031
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: Period.

1032
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: Did they lose both games?

1033
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

1034
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 5: Did they lose it an embarrassing fashion, yes they were,

1035
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 5: but they were up by twenty in both games.

1036
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: So the series is by no means over.

1037
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 5: One more question about this series. Who is I guess

1038
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: it's sort of about this series. Who is more clutch

1039
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson or Tyres Haliburt.

1040
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Brunson just because Brunson it feels like

1041
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: a career long thing for him. Halliburton's on one hell

1042
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: of a clutch run. And if you ask me who

1043
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: the most clutch player this season is, that probably go

1044
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: with Halliburton because I mean he's literally hit two game

1045
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: ending jump shit or shots in.

1046
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: This in this playoff run.

1047
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: But like Brunton, this has been a multi year sequence

1048
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: where he's like this, So I would give the slight

1049
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: edge to Brunson at this point.

1050
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: Great question, though, for sure.

1051
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: We got some a few questions on the refereeing.

1052
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: One a specific question, which is do you have a

1053
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 5: take on the officiating in the Denver game tonight, because

1054
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 5: a lot of Nuggets fans are in the chat screaming

1055
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 5: about Scott Foster letting the thunder mal Nikola Jokic. So

1056
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 5: first question is sort of a more specific view about

1057
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: the officiating tonight, and then sort of big picture do

1058
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 5: you like the physicality that the refs are allowing in

1059
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: the playoffs so far?

1060
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: Is there? How would you?

1061
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: I know consistency is important, but how would you How

1062
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 5: is your feeling about the officiating sort of a large.

1063
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: So first of all, and I just fair warning for

1064
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: Nuggets fans, I am the worst person to ask this

1065
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: question too, because I will never blame the refs ever

1066
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: for a game ever, So that that's the first little

1067
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: bit of context. But I am a generally of belief

1068
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: that the team that plays with more force gets the

1069
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: better whistle. And I thought Oklahoma City came out and

1070
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: kicked your ass tonight, and I thought it also manifested

1071
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: in a lot of these like whistle situations where Oklahoma

1072
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: City was on the right side of it. I generally

1073
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: feel that way, Like there's there's so many examples where

1074
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: like you'll see a team win a game, and then

1075
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: the other team will win the next game by bringing

1076
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: the requisite effort, and in that game they'll get a

1077
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: better whistle, and everyone will think it's like the league

1078
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: off is stepping in and being like, we need to

1079
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: tie this series, and it's like, no, what's happening is

1080
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: the team that's desperate, that absolutely has to win this game,

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Speaker 2: Like this is not like Boston New York, Like Boston

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: could afford to lose tonight, and still they've been better

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00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: on the road all seed, Like Boston has lost so

1084
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: many games at the TV Garden it's not even funny

1085
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: this year, like the I think they have like I

1086
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: think this is like their fourteenth loss at home this year.

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Speaker 2: It's something crazy like that. They have been a very

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00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: good road team all year. They've looked much more likeast

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00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: year's team on the road than they did at home

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Speaker 2: this year. And so Denver, Oka, see, it's very different.

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Speaker 2: You you drop that game tonight like and send Denver

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Speaker 2: home like you're not winning two in Denver. You might

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00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: get lucky to get one there, like the series could

1094
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: be over if you lose tonight. So like Oklahoma City

1095
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: brought the requisite effort, they're an awesome team. They physically

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00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: kick dress guys. I'm watching Jokic not even seal at

1097
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: the high post, like I'm not gonna blame the refs

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00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: when Jokic I thought, played just a poor game by

1099
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Speaker 2: his standards, and like, guys, that's the thing I'm I

1100
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Speaker 2: like in order for me to feel like it means

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Speaker 2: something for me to say that Game one was one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest playoff performances that I've ever watched. We

1103
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: also have to be willing to look and be like

1104
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: he sucked tonight. If we don't do that, then it

1105
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: means nothing when we say he was awesome, and it

1106
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: also means nothing when we say somebody sucks. We have

1107
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Speaker 2: to be honest about the way that these guys played.

1108
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: Yokic was awesome in Game one, his team one. Jokic

1109
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: was not good tonight and it was a big part

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Speaker 2: of why they lost. And by the way, he's not

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00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: the only one ever. Michael Porter Junior was awful again tonight.

1112
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: There's point of attack defense was awful all night long.

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00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: Christian Brown had a bad night. They a lot of

1114
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: guys down the roster were bad. But you know, obviously

1115
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Speaker 2: Joki is a guy hold to a very high standard.

1116
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: I think he's the best player in the world and

1117
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: one of the best players in NBA history, and I

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00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: don't think he did his job tonight.

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Speaker 5: Let's do one more question and then we will go

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Speaker 5: over to playback. This is not about any games from tonight,

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: but do you feel that Jimmy Butler still has it

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00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: in him to be playoff Jimmy but as a lead scorer,

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Speaker 5: as a we need you to lead us to a

1124
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: win tonight type or is he sort of pass that

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Speaker 5: phase a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out, that's for sure. This is a

1127
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: really tough matchup in terms of just the types of

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00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: defenders that he's gonna consistently go against. I also think

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: that Jimmy's gonna need to provide a certain amount of

1130
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: scoring over the course of these games. But I think

1131
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 2: it's still the ball in player movement of Golden State

1132
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: putting Minnesota in the blender. That is their best pathway

1133
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: to succeed Minnesota if you play into the matchup attacking

1134
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: trap with them. That's right up there outy. Trust me,

1135
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: I just went through that as a Laker fan. Like

1136
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: as much as I like Jimmy Lucas better and Luca

1137
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: was having a hard time finding advantages from to attack

1138
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: one on one. This is not a one on one

1139
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: type of attack kind of series. Your advantage is Yes,

1140
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy looks to be aggressive. Yes, every time there's four

1141
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: seconds on the shot clock, you want to throw him

1142
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: the ball and he needs to go try to create

1143
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: something off the dribble. But this is a series you're

1144
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna win defense to transition and by putting Minnesota in

1145
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: the blender in the half court. All right, guys, uh,

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Speaker 2: playback playback dot tv slash hoops tonight. The link is

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Speaker 2: in the description. Head over there right now. We're gonna

1148
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Speaker 2: be starting out there in just a couple of minutes.

1149
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Speaker 2: We'll take some callers, we'll take some questions from the chat,

1150
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: we'll hang out and just watch some film, talk, some basketball,

1151
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: and an informal setting for about forty five minutes. We'll

1152
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Speaker 2: see guys over there in just a minute. Thanks as

1153
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: always for supporting the show. We'll see you guys in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: What's up, guys.

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Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting

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Speaker 2: OOPS tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us

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Speaker 2: if you guys would take a second and leave a

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Speaker 2: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 2: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to

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Speaker 2: do that, I'd really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: The volume