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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the program. Here from the

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Speaker 1: Junday Texans Radio studio. It's Texans All Access. Mark VanderMeer

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Speaker 1: with you, soon to be joined by John Harris. Big

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Speaker 1: night for you. I'll tell you why right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: March sixth two, Thy twelve was the very first Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access program that you heard on Sports Radio six ten.

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Speaker 1: At that point it was Tuesday noon to two and

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Speaker 1: that's when we launched this whole thing we call Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: So that was six years ago. This is season seven

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Speaker 1: of Texans Radio. We are in right now, very cool.

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Speaker 1: Lots of stuff happening at Hockeyley retired today, how about that.

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Speaker 1: But we have a lot of other things to talk

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Speaker 1: about as well, the combine wrapping up free agency stuff.

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell on the show, but we begin it with

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Speaker 1: John Harris. How's it going, Johnny? Doing very well? Mark?

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Speaker 1: On a Tuesday, Like you said, free agency eight days now,

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Speaker 1: the officials start is eight days away, but oh it started.

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Speaker 1: The three day tampering period will occur over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Is that what they officially call it? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to say. I want to say

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Speaker 1: that's what they call legal tamp. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a three day get to know you negotiation time. There's

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Speaker 1: no good way to do this. Here's how most of

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Speaker 1: those negotiations go. Hey we are team A. Oh hi,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. We'd like to offer you a contract

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Speaker 1: of X. Well, I'd like why, okay? Good? Done right.

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Speaker 1: That's how Malik, That's that's how Klai's campbell got to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: He never he never at any point went to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: never talked to Jacksonville. They offered him a contract. He

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Speaker 1: got called by a couple of Jacksonville guys and said, look, man,

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Speaker 1: you're a missing piece. We really need you. Come. Who

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Speaker 1: knew it would work out so well? They were a

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Speaker 1: terrible team. They went to the AFC Championship Game and

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Speaker 1: they resigned Blake Bortles, which in training camp was unthinkable,

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Speaker 1: unthinkable that day that we were at the Greenbrier and

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Speaker 1: you found out that Bortles through five picks in practice

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the AFC Championship Game and they will

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Speaker 1: resign him. I would have said, Wow, this just shows

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Speaker 1: that you know, and I love that. I actually love

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Speaker 1: the Bortles story for this reason, Johnny, and it's the

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Speaker 1: same reason why I like the Nick Foles story and

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Speaker 1: the Case Kingdom story. It's that people who work on

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Speaker 1: the right pieces around them, let's be honest, from Bortles case,

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Speaker 1: and they make a difference in performance. I really love

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Speaker 1: this because it's inspiring to all of us. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can get better at what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to stay the same. And I love

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Speaker 1: it when people are wrong, these pundits and everybody. Look,

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Speaker 1: I was wrong about Bortles too, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: like that because these guys. You think you know something

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we all love about sports

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Speaker 1: and many ways as far as the way the games

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Speaker 1: are played. But these individuals can and will often get better,

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Speaker 1: not always, but they can do it. It's interesting you

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Speaker 1: bring it up because we were at the Greenbrier. I

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Speaker 1: remember listening to the guys at ten ten XL and

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Speaker 1: they were talking about a scrimmage. It was not the

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Speaker 1: And I remember two things standing out. I remember them

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Speaker 1: Oh eugeniuses, as they said into two bills, all eugeniuses

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Speaker 1: What I don't want to say. Jackson was a talk

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Speaker 1: ask you this, all right, who would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. How about Kirk Cousins or Blake Portles. Who

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Speaker 1: would you rather play? If you're the Texans, Cousins rather,

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Speaker 1: I'd yes, I'd rather because Bortles can do something when

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Speaker 1: but listen, here's why. Bortles has been with that personnel

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Speaker 1: But he knows that personnel, he knows the system. I

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Speaker 1: would I would I fear Cousins or Bortles? I would

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about it from their point of view. I'm

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Speaker 1: talk a lot of draft. The Harris one hundreds out

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Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com. It's awesome. Check out all

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Speaker 1: Johnny's work. The top one hundred players that are draftable,

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Speaker 1: and certainly the Texans will have their shot at numerous

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Speaker 1: I gotta say this about this offseason. Free agency starts

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Speaker 1: next week. Like we said, if you are Brian Gay

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Speaker 1: the draft. It's not like it's gravy because the draft.

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Speaker 1: You have eight picks in this draft. I mean, somebody's

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Speaker 1: that's my point here. You cannot count on any draft

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Speaker 1: So next week is a huge week. Well, it's huge

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Zach would have seen the field

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Speaker 1: then think about Deante format Deante really didn't get really

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Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun is as good a kid as there is.

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Speaker 1: But but Johnny Manziel, there was no real discipline and

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Speaker 1: structure to his game, so he didn't have that as

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Speaker 1: a foundation. DeShawn Watson has that as a foundation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So as long as you have that as a foundation,

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Speaker 1: then the other stuff becomes an extra. The other stuff

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Speaker 1: meaning that the improvisation, the spectacular flashes, that can't be

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Speaker 1: the primary if there's not structure and discipline to begin with.

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Speaker 1: And this is where Bill O'Brien did a sensational job

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Speaker 1: as well by putting him in an offense where he

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Speaker 1: could almost dictate structure. You know, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: misdirection with the backfield fakes, a lot of multiple backfield actions.

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Speaker 1: Create define reads for the quarterback because the defense has

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Speaker 1: a lot to digest and they can't react as quickly,

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Speaker 1: so you get define reads and define throws, so you

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Speaker 1: help create the needed structure and discipline within the play

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Interesting, Greg Cosell joining us, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you some around the league type questions here Kirk

441
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Speaker 1: Cousins doing what you do right? What do you make

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Speaker 1: of all this about Cousins? Because I know you don't

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Speaker 1: get into the economics to separate the money. The money

444
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Speaker 1: is the money. If somebody wants them, they're going to

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Speaker 1: have to pay us amount adoptions, But it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: ignore in his particular situation. I think based on what

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Speaker 1: he's been through already and what he's about to go through.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think, well, I think at his core,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is an orchestrator and a distributor of a

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Speaker 1: well designed, well schemed offense that needs weapons. So let's

451
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Speaker 1: say people are talking about Minnesota and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's going to happen. No one knows, but that

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Speaker 1: would be a nice landing spot for him because they'll

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Speaker 1: get the dolphin cooked back who looked like he'd be

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Speaker 1: a feature back. I think they need some offensive line upgrades,

456
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Speaker 1: but they can do that in the draft and free agency.

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Speaker 1: They'll have the feature back. To have a solid tight

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Speaker 1: end in Kyle Rudolph. They'll have to find Diggs. They'll

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Speaker 1: have Adam Feeling. You know, they have pieces in place

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Speaker 1: to play to what Cousins is, which is a really

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Speaker 1: efficient orchestrator and distributor. People forget two years ago he

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Speaker 1: threw maybe sixty nine percent completion. He was third in

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Speaker 1: the league in passing yards. That's his game. When he

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Speaker 1: has good weapons, he can be really efficient. That's his game.

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Speaker 1: Now in the AFC South, you have Marcus Mariota, who

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Speaker 1: did not have a great year. The team had a

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Speaker 1: pretty good year. They want a playoff game and everything.

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Speaker 1: Then they make the coaching change. Now you have Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur there. What do you make of him? Going into

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Speaker 1: this season love Matt Lafleur. He's from the Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay school. It starts with his own run game.

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Speaker 1: I'll be anxious to see what they do from a

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Speaker 1: back perspective because I know some disagree with me. I

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Speaker 1: don't see Derrick Henry as that guy in that offense.

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Speaker 1: There's not many tied girlies, but I think you need

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Speaker 1: a back who can run the zone run game really effectively.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's Derrick Henry. I think the thing

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Speaker 1: they'll do, which that staff did in Los Angeles last

479
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Speaker 1: year with Jared Goff, and I know Matt will do this,

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Speaker 1: is he will build Mariota back up from the ground up.

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Speaker 1: Mariota last year started to have some issues with his mechanics.

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Speaker 1: His upper body and lower body did not work well together,

483
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a power arm, so he needs

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Speaker 1: to play with efficiency and he needs his mechanics to

485
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Speaker 1: be really precise, and he lost that last year. And

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Speaker 1: it's likely because he had a lot of leg injuries.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the reason. Because Mariota, like to Sean

488
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: is a great kid, and you know he's a worker.

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Speaker 1: He gets it and I think probably the injuries to

490
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Speaker 1: his lower body sort of prevented him from being able

491
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball with the needed balance and footwork

492
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Speaker 1: that is required. But they'll really drive that home when

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Speaker 1: you see Jacksonville get to the AFC Championship game, and

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Speaker 1: I know it's a balanced kind of thing that got

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Speaker 1: them there, especially on defense. A lot always to win

496
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Speaker 1: in this league. Yeah, it's true, and Blake Bortles showed

497
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Speaker 1: you that and he started to play better. And I

498
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Speaker 1: was kind of on a get off again a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but they recommit to him. Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean that. Look,

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Speaker 1: they they've even stated that they need better play from Bortles,

501
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Speaker 1: that he has to become a better player, and he

502
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Speaker 1: does because the problem is it it impacts your game

503
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Speaker 1: planning and your play calling. Yes, did he play better

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Speaker 1: in terms of the fact that he didn't turn it

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Speaker 1: over as much, and you know those that's all good

506
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Speaker 1: and it fit the way they played with a with

507
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Speaker 1: a run game that's set the pace with Leonard Fournette

508
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Speaker 1: and a very good defense. But they're going to need

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Speaker 1: better overall play from Blake Bortles. Now in their case,

510
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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean forty touchdown passes they don't need him

511
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Speaker 1: to do that. They don't needs and forty touchdowns, but

512
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Speaker 1: they're going He's going to have to play better so

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Speaker 1: that the play caller, Nathaniel Hackett, can feel more comfortable

514
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Speaker 1: calling certain things, because that's what it ultimately comes down to.

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Speaker 1: You can usually tell mark about how a team feels

516
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Speaker 1: about their quarterback by how they play, so you know

517
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Speaker 1: that they're not real real. They weren't last year, real

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Speaker 1: real comfortable with Blake Bortles. Greg Cassell joining us. A

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Speaker 1: couple of more for you here, Greg, Jedevian Clowney, your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on his development since he was the one overall

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Speaker 1: pick in twenty fourteen to where he is now. He's

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Speaker 1: a powerful man. He's a powerful player. He's a great

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Speaker 1: run defender. He fits what they do schematically because they

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Speaker 1: move him around and he can create matchups inside at

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Speaker 1: times versus center and guards. I mean, he can just

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Speaker 1: lift people sometimes. He's an incredibly powerful human being. He's

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Speaker 1: not a pure pass rusher in the sense of being

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Speaker 1: a flexible bender like I think Whitney merciless is or

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Speaker 1: pass rusher than Jadeveon Clowney, but Clowney in the context

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Speaker 1: of a scheme. You know, if Merciless is back healthy,

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Speaker 1: if Watt's back healthy, you know, continued development of his

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Speaker 1: Zach cunning him who I thought really progressed as the

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Speaker 1: year continued. You know, Clowney's the kind of guy that'll

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Speaker 1: pile up statistics. You know, I don't think that he's

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Speaker 1: an eighteen nineteen sack guy just as an individual where

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Speaker 1: you could just line him up on the edge and

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Speaker 1: say go get the quarterback and he'd be an eighteen

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Speaker 1: nineteen sack guy. But I think in the context of

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Speaker 1: what they do defensively and how he's used, he can

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Speaker 1: he can be a good sack guy. But to me,

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Speaker 1: it's his strength, his power, and his ability to play

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Speaker 1: the run. I think he's a really good run defender.

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Speaker 1: You were asked by Dpcitu on Houston Texas dot Com

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Speaker 1: about ranking receivers and everything, and he said something about

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Speaker 1: personal preference. And I always say, these guys are like artists.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of this is subjective because these styles

547
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: are so different. Yeah. Look, it's draft times, so I'm

548
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Speaker 1: a valuating receivers and I take all my notes and

549
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: you put down trades this and that. You know, I

550
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Speaker 1: can fill up a page and it's wonderful. I love

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Speaker 1: doing it. I love the process. But if you reduce receivers,

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Speaker 1: you can reduce receivers to two things. When all said

553
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: and done, can they separate and can they catch the ball?

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Speaker 1: That's a four day Hopkins can do both of those,

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Speaker 1: and you know, as well as any receiver in the league.

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Speaker 1: And separation is a term that separation can be going

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Speaker 1: up and getting it. It can be separated truly separating

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Speaker 1: where you get away. However, you can get to the ball,

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00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: that's separation. The under Hopkins can do that, and he

560
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Speaker 1: can catch the ball. I mean the man has big

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Speaker 1: hands straight. I mean his hands are so strong. So

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what receiver is. You have to

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Speaker 1: be able to separate and catch the football. He's really

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Speaker 1: really you know, that's why he's got a job as

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the NFL. He's good at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Greg, thanks so much of the time.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate Mark, really appreciate it. Thanks Greg go

568
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Speaker 1: Sell of NFL Films. John Harris steps back out of

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Speaker 1: the batter's box. The broadcast us both the Hunday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio studio. Next as we'll go around the league and

571
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Speaker 1: talk about a death in sports that has me thinking

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Speaker 1: about a very important topic about the yesteryear's teams versus

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Speaker 1: teams of today. Let's discuss next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have you joining us for Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access here in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio and

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium. Mark Vandermyer and John Harris with you this evening,

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Speaker 1: and Johnny, all right, I want to go on a

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Speaker 1: quick tangent with you because it's basically tangent radio here

579
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Speaker 1: sometimes in the offseason especially, but let's do this. Roger

580
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Speaker 1: Banister died the other day, and Roger Banister is known

581
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Speaker 1: for the first man for being the first man to

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Speaker 1: break the four minute mile barrier. This is a barrier

583
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: to run a mile under four minutes was thought to

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Speaker 1: be impossible, because like going to the moon was thought

585
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Speaker 1: to be impossible at some point in history. But Banister

586
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: did it, and once he did it, people started to

587
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: do it a lot. It's amazing how that occurs. And

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Speaker 1: I think that this is a fine and you hear

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00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: me reference bannistern awful lot. I mean, he's when you

590
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Speaker 1: accomplish something like that, no one can ever take that

591
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: away from you and everything. I think that it's a

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00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: great example of how athletes get better over time, with training,

593
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: with sports science, with whatever, and having seen other people

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Speaker 1: do it. When you know it can be done, then

595
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: it starts to be done a lot. And it's the

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Speaker 1: best argument I can think of for saying, why look,

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Speaker 1: an NFL team from today, the worst team in the

598
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: league today would crush I mean absolutely annihilate, Say the

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Speaker 1: Steel Curtain from the seventies. Pick your NFL team, maybe

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Speaker 1: even in the eighties, maybe even those forty nine er teams.

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Speaker 1: And I point to the seventies specifically because mean Joe Green, right,

602
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: big bad defensive lineman for the Steel Curtain, was two

603
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds, two seventy five. Johnny guys

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Speaker 1: these days to just be pushing him out of the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: via Vee measured in the other day three forty seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two seventy five. Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert might have trouble.

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00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Fred Dryer once said he played for the Rams back

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Speaker 1: in the day. Was on the TV show Hunter. He

609
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: once said, I wouldn't even make it in the league.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is like ten years ago. He said

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Speaker 1: that because, like I was undersized. You know a lot

612
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Speaker 1: of guys feel that way when they look at it, honestly,

613
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Speaker 1: because players get bigger, stronger, faster over time. Not to

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Speaker 1: say that certain players from that era wouldn't play great

615
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Speaker 1: in this era had they grown up in this era

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Speaker 1: and seeing what has taken place. You know, receiver like

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Speaker 1: Lynn Swan, who's to say wouldn't be a great receiver,

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Speaker 1: John Stalworth, I'm talking about those Steeler teams. You know,

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Speaker 1: Earl Campbell would have been great in any era. There's

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Speaker 1: certain players like that who would be great in any era. Quarterbacks, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if they have the training techniques. But when you just

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Speaker 1: look at the team as a whold, especially the guys

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Speaker 1: in the trenches, my gosh, there's no question athletes that

624
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Speaker 1: are bigger, stronger, faster. I used this argument in the

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Speaker 1: NBA and we are debating it on the Morning Show

626
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Speaker 1: once with Lopez and I think Nick Wright was still

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Speaker 1: doing the show. But I said, the Golden State Warriors

628
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Speaker 1: of today, let's take this year's Rockets team. They would

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Speaker 1: crush any team from the eighties, absolutely destroy them. They

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Speaker 1: would be launching threes. I mean it would be like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one hundred. It would be

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Speaker 1: a total, massive blowout. I don't know how you feel

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Speaker 1: about this stuff. Yeah, it's funny when you bring it up.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that, for some reason, just the

635
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Speaker 1: way my brain works, I always think about back in

636
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Speaker 1: the mid to late eighties, etc. Started showing for the

637
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: first time in college football the weights of offensive lineman

638
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: in particular. And I remember it was the ninety two

639
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. I think it was a ninety two Rose Bowl,

640
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe before that, but University Michigan had a tackle by

641
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: the name of Greg Skrepenak, and he was thought to

642
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: be this monster of an offensive lineman, a monster. He

643
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: was two eighty five. No, he was two eighty five,

644
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: And I remember seeing that back in the day. I

645
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that's a big line man. Two eighty

646
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: five to seventy five, two fifty five. The line average

647
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Speaker 1: two sixty five. Now you have to be three hundred pounds.

648
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking a little while ago about

649
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Connor Williams measuring at two ninety six, and

650
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: I said, more than likely he's got to move to guard.

651
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one that thinks that he probably

652
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: is gonna have to move to guard. I think he

653
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: could succeed at tackles too light, but he's too light

654
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: at two ninety six two light. So it certainly has

655
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: it certainly has changed. But the style of play, the

656
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: innovation on certain things. And we talk about the Warriors.

657
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, the use of the three point shot in basketball.

658
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we see it here with the Rockets,

659
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: the use of the three point shot. The Rockets are

660
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: playing the game a different way than it was played.

661
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: You watch a game, an NFL game, watch the NFL

662
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: game from just just fifteen years ago, and you're seeing

663
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: different I formation. You're seeing twenty two personnel, you see

664
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Speaker 1: twenty one personnel. You're seeing two backs almost all the time.

665
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh you don't see any of the spread stuff. Nothing,

666
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: don't read. I mean, there's no way quarterbacks under center

667
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: always have a drop from center. And now you're seeing

668
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: that change. And I find that interesting when it comes

669
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: to the draft process because and I went on a

670
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: rant one night about Bill Polian, and look, I have

671
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Bill Polian. When he was

672
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: able to do with the Bills what he's able to

673
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: do with the Cult, he built those teams he built

674
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: championship teams. But when you hear Bill Polian say, now,

675
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson should go at the wide receiver.

676
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: He shouldn't even mess with quarterback, It's like that's the

677
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: thinking from many, many years ago, and that's not the

678
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: way that Doug Peterson the Eagles think now. It isn't

679
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: the way that Bill O'Brien was thinking when he got

680
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson and all that he could do. The

681
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: innovation in the game that's being played now. As it

682
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: pertains to Roger Banister, I think it became oh man,

683
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: you can run under four minutes. Okay, all right, see

684
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: what I can do. Then training methods and that all changed.

685
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: The athletes themselves got bigger, stronger, faster. What they I'm

686
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: sure Roger Banister back in nineteen fifty four was not

687
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: on some sleep regiment and then on some strict diet

688
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: and then tapered down to his meat. It's all that

689
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: over time, the science technology, bigger, stronger, faster has hit

690
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: therecakes and bacon for breakfast that day, I fired up

691
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: a heater before he ran. I don't know, but he

692
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: just went out and did it. And then when he

693
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: did it, and we saw that people were making money

694
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: for doing that. Then people were like, well, hey, man,

695
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: if if they're gonna pay me to go do this,

696
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make this my occupation. It was

697
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: not you know, football back in the in the sixty fifty, sixties,

698
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: maybe in the seventies, it was not a year round proposition, right.

699
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: It was you played your season and then you left

700
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: for however long, and you went some got jobs. I

701
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: know in the fifties and sixty for sure that was

702
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: the case. There were guys, you know, now they had

703
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: a long training camp because they had to work all

704
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: that off, but it was a long training camp. The

705
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: season went up through December, the end of December maybe,

706
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and then they were they went and worked jobs. Yeah,

707
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: and people might point to certain star athletes, but we're

708
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: not talking about them. Think about like reserve offensive linemen

709
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: or a team X, and he's got a find a

710
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: way to make some money, you know, I mean these

711
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: guys these days. All right, So you make three, four

712
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: or five hundred thousand dollars a year, which is you know,

713
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: great money obviously, but how long is the career? That

714
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: might be one year, that might be two or three years. Great,

715
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: but you can't live on it for the rest of

716
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Speaker 1: your life and the equivalent of that. In those days,

717
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: they knew that they had to sort of get their

718
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: lives together for the rest of it because you know,

719
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: the careers weren't any longer back then and the money

720
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: was shorter, so you had to adjust. You brought up

721
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: something interesting about quarterbacks here for a moment, because it's

722
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: always fun to talk about them, and we just got

723
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: back from the combine and you know, watch some of

724
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: these guys and what they can do. All right, So

725
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on the spot here, Johnny.

726
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: The Texans need a backup quarterback. Yeah. Tom Savage is

727
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: going to be an unrestricted free agent officially next week.

728
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: They still have Taylor Heinekey on the roster. I know

729
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: they like him, but I'm not going to assume anything

730
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: more than they like him. But let's go here. They

731
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: need a backup quarterback. Give me a guy that they now.

732
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Speaker 1: I expect them, like we said early on the show,

733
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: to fully address this situation in free agency. But let's

734
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: just say they've addressed it a free agency, but you know,

735
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: there might be somebody in the draft where they are

736
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: drafting third round on down somebody that they might be

737
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: intrigued by, somebody they might want to develop behind Watson,

738
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Speaker 1: if not for insurance purposes, maybe for a trade down

739
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: the line. But you always need a great backup quarterbacks.

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00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we've seen that here way too many

741
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: times in recent years. So what do you think. Give

742
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: me a name or two of somebody that could possibly

743
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: be eyeing fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round. Whatever. Well, to me,

744
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: the draft this year is there's there's a big there's

745
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: a big five. There's Mason Rudolf. If you want to

746
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: say big six some people do. I know. We talked

747
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: to Pete Prisco. He didn't. He wasn't a huge fan.

748
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Speaker 1: It was good talking to Pete because he talked off

749
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: the air two of us and he wasn't a big

750
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: fan of Mason Rudolf. I'm not the biggest fan in

751
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: the world. I think he's a second rounder. But then

752
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: after that, there's a there's a pretty decent sized gap.

753
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: And to me, there's a name that keeps coming up.

754
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: And I had an opportunity to do his first game

755
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: of the year against same Houston State. Richmond played Same

756
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Houston State. They were supposed to play at sam the

757
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: week in Hurricane Harvey. Harvey hit Richard really couldn't get there. Obviously,

758
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Huntsville was getting hit a lot like Houston was, so

759
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: they postponed the game. So they pushed it back a

760
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: week and then played in Waco at Baylor, and so

761
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I was able to do that game. And Kyle la

762
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Lott of the quarterback at Richmond, when you first look

763
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: at him, you don't think he's that big, but he's

764
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: a little over six two, he's two hundred and fifteen pounds.

765
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: He's smart, he was a Senior Bowl MVP, he was

766
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: on the stat he was on the South squad. Texas

767
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: had a chance to coach him. And it was interesting

768
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: while we were at the combine because you had on

769
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: the north side you had Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield

770
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: the same team, and then you had Luke Falk and

771
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Tanner Lee, and then you added the four quarterbacks on

772
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: the South team, and you went, WHOA, there's a huge

773
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: talent discrepancy. But then when you watched a little closer,

774
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: you watched those guys work on the South squad, you

775
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: thought that same thing. Wow, I think there are a

776
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: couple of guys here, and Kyla Letter was one of them.

777
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: I thought he got better each and every day during

778
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the week. He doesn't have the strongest arm, He's more

779
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: like Case in that capacity, but he's a lot like

780
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Case in that capacity. He's a winner, He's tough, you,

781
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's you know that game against Sam. Sam

782
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: started hammering him early, and then he kept bringing him back.

783
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: He kept bringing him back. Now he made a couple

784
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: of bad throws. You go, man, what is he thinking?

785
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: But he was really impressive in a game to me,

786
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: and so I was glad to see him at the

787
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. And he really the only thing that probably

788
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: holds him back from being a higher draft pick is

789
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the fact that he's not blessed with a Josh Allen

790
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: type arm. But kyl La Letter Richmond is a guy

791
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: that I think could be that guy in the fifth,

792
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: sixth seventh round. I think Mike White from out of

793
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, also one of the South quarterbacks at the

794
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I think he's also a guy to look

795
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: at in the fifth, sixth seventh round. They both, like

796
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I said, on the South squad by the Texans. White

797
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: was at USF that transferred to Western, and he took

798
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: off with Western Kentucky's offense. He had a tremendous twenty

799
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: sixteen year and he's got a lot of tools. Not

800
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: the not the biggest arm, but a good arm, a

801
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: better arm than Lauletta. But I think one of those

802
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: two guys could end up being a guy that they

803
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: could could go to battle with and teach. And they've

804
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: already got a little bit of a leg up because

805
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: they know at least a little bit of the offense.

806
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: But I thought Mike White was very interesting when he

807
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks worked out, they had a TV segment

808
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: from the Senior Ball Then Mike Mayock seemingly put him

809
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: on a spot and said, hey, what's your favorite play?

810
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: And Mike White said, oh, I love this particular play,

811
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: and he really kind of went into football football, lease

812
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: if you will. And then Mayak was like, all right,

813
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: let's take a little bit further. What's your first read?

814
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: What's your progression at play? And Mike White said, well,

815
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Speaker 1: and cover four it's this, and cover three it's this,

816
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and cover two it's this. If it's cover one, it's this,

817
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: and he went bang bang bang bang, And I just

818
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: remember going ooh, that's pretty impressive. He put him on.

819
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: It was after senior will practice, and he nailed it.

820
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: So I think a guy like Lauletta Mike White, those

821
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: would be two guys I think keep an eye on.

822
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: I got a little bit better tools, but not as

823
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: consistent as Kurt benk Kurt from out of Virginia. But

824
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: those three were all South quarterbacks, and so I probably

825
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: give them a little bit of leg up because the

826
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Texas got a chance to know them over that week

827
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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on the way out here Bowl

828
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Speaker 1: season versus this week in college basketball, not next week,

829
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: this week in college basketball. You know how much I

830
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: love college football. You love the Bulls, but there's nothing

831
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: beats March even this could see to me. This week

832
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: is almost I can't say it's better than the first

833
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: couple of days of the tournament. The first two days

834
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: of the tournament are magical there, but this week is

835
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: an entire week of I love these like the South

836
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: and Conference is Saturday that I'll be doing the game

837
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: by the way with John Lopez eight o'clock Sports Radio

838
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: six to ten. You want to tune in for that.

839
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: It's South and Conference championship. So that league's a one

840
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: big league. I mean it's it's NCAA Idol, right, one

841
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: team gets to go. I love these conferences where you

842
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: get one big, one team and the celebration, the joy,

843
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: even though they're probably gonna flame out in the tournaments.

844
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't. Often they don't, but you know what

845
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, And then you have the other tournaments

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Speaker 1: where teams are trying to play their way in, trying

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Speaker 1: not to maybe ruin a resume, trying to build on

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Speaker 1: their resume. I love this week. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: terrific week in sports. I think this is one of

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Speaker 1: the most underrated weeks. And we all talk about that

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Speaker 1: first week, the first week in the ncable A tournament.

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Speaker 1: I think this weekend, because you have games every single day,

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Speaker 1: You've I mean you've got more games on on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have an nc double A tournament. And

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Speaker 1: to me, the one big one big leagues are amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I was watching what game was that? I think

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Speaker 1: it was fair Field, Ye, fair Field against Iona, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I own a one right yeah, and it was

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Speaker 1: to go. It was to go to the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: And Fairfield's best player. I can't remember what his name is,

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Speaker 1: but at the end of the game, Iona was gonna win.

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Speaker 1: And Sydney john and who used to play. He was

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Speaker 1: on that Princeton Tina b UCLA and ninety six, the

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Speaker 1: backdoor cuts and all that. He was the point guard

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Speaker 1: on that team. So he's coaching Fairfield now, and so

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Speaker 1: right at the end of the game, he called, he

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Speaker 1: took his player out and he came over and he

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Speaker 1: just hugged him. I mean it was just like thirty

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Speaker 1: second hug and you just realize it's over here. It's

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Speaker 1: like you win and you're in. It's like this feeling

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Speaker 1: of euphoria that you get in. I mean, some guys

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Speaker 1: will go for four years and they can get close

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Speaker 1: and close, and then finally as a senior they break

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Speaker 1: through and it's always the coolest moment to me. I

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Speaker 1: love this week. This week to me, and you know

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Speaker 1: how much of the coach football this week to me

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Speaker 1: is better than the bulls. Wow, as crazy as that sounds,

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Speaker 1: is better than the balls. You know the thing about

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Speaker 1: the balls that makes them, you know, even the balls

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Speaker 1: that don't really matter as much. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: a huge one here. It's a huge game. Even though

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I still enjoy the sport of football,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it means a lot to those guys

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Speaker 1: to win a bowl. That's the one sport where you like,

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Speaker 1: you could end your season on a win but not

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Speaker 1: win the championship and you're happy ed you have a

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Speaker 1: winning records. It's a weird deal. Johnny, thanks a lot

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Speaker 1: for the time you gotta Mark, Thank you, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight. Thank you, Johnny, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Greg Ko selfer being on. Thank you Ran for producing.

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Speaker 1: Go Lot at Night is next. Go Texans.