WEBVTT - Caroline Neerman: my BFF since we were 2 years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I take my hat off? I started recording No,

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<v Speaker 1>you should not take your hat off because it said

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<v Speaker 1>give me six ft, which is actually the best Caroline.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all everyone listening, this is my bestie for my whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. We're the kid we've been the Carolines. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Squires Nearman. Is your did you change her middle

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<v Speaker 1>name to Squires or what's your Yeah, it's Caroline Squires Nearman.

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<v Speaker 1>So growing up, Caroline and I became best friends. When

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<v Speaker 1>we were two years old. We were the only friends

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<v Speaker 1>that went to each other's birthday party. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're the only friend I had at my party. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just was instant. How did we become besties? I

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<v Speaker 1>think our moms were just good friends and then we

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<v Speaker 1>so we were around each other and we just were

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<v Speaker 1>instant besties, and like we did dance together. And Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>had the coolest older siblings, Ryan and Shay, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like seven years older than you, right, so five

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. Yeah, growing up we would go play at

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<v Speaker 1>your house and Ryan and Shay were always like cool

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers and they were like they had like the the

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<v Speaker 1>junior high in high school talent show. And somehow we

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<v Speaker 1>weaseled our way into Ryan's talent show act and we

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<v Speaker 1>did a dance routine in front of the whole high

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<v Speaker 1>school when we were like, what how old were we? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, I think we were like in fourth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like a really big deal because the

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<v Speaker 1>talent show was for the school that we didn't attend,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was for seventh grade to twelfth grade. But

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<v Speaker 1>somehow the Carolines weaseled their way in and we did

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<v Speaker 1>our little dance routine with our cut off shorts and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't split. Yeah, and we pretty much thought we

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<v Speaker 1>were the coolest people ever. We thought like we stole

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<v Speaker 1>the show. We're like, we're hanging out with the high

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<v Speaker 1>schoolers and the I mean, you know what it was

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<v Speaker 1>because your brother Ryan, he's so cool, but like he

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy that like just kind of like made

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<v Speaker 1>everything happen at and like he's so rolling in hot.

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't have an act, like every grade had

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<v Speaker 1>to have an act, and so he just decided to

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<v Speaker 1>like act like a talent scout and throw us in

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<v Speaker 1>the act as like the talent he was scouting. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he just went together this act and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do anything and we got and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to shine. He's pretty much known for being efficient with

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<v Speaker 1>everything he does, and so I think the most efficient

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<v Speaker 1>way to get to accomplish his requirement for the Talent

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<v Speaker 1>Show was to get us and then he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything and it was great. Oh man, gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>We also Caroline growing up. Every single weekend we would

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<v Speaker 1>spend the night together. We would do jazz or size exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>videos would play all I mean, we go hunting for

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<v Speaker 1>giant scary things that lived in the little pond behind

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<v Speaker 1>your house. Um, we would go what was what called

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<v Speaker 1>those things that Ryan would find in the paul um

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<v Speaker 1>the alligator gars? Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what we love to do most was go to

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<v Speaker 1>Mervyn's body suits, Yes, matching outfits. We matched every day

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<v Speaker 1>and we loved Mervyn's and we would go with our

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<v Speaker 1>moms and buy every single matching body suit we could.

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<v Speaker 1>We only wore Caroline. He made body suits cool before

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<v Speaker 1>body suits were cool, if you Oh, definitely, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>had every single color. And um, we also wore our hair.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the same way. Oh, we as have my

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<v Speaker 1>hair so I could get it to flow the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wanted to do the sunflower Oh, we would

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<v Speaker 1>spray sunflower like leaving condition on our hair and make

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<v Speaker 1>we oh, we lay on the head and put our

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<v Speaker 1>head on the back of the bed so it would

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<v Speaker 1>fall off, and then we brush our hair and get

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<v Speaker 1>it so smooth on the top and do the tightest,

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<v Speaker 1>tightest ponytail you could get. And then we'd spray it

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<v Speaker 1>down leaving condition and let it dry so it literally

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<v Speaker 1>would crack. It was so hard. Right, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>one little hair in front of our face like Madonna

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<v Speaker 1>that I would cut to make sure it's just that

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<v Speaker 1>one hair that because it had to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>same side. We had to just match perfectly. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we even come up to have the hair in our

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<v Speaker 1>face the one little way? I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was your your initiation. I think you started that

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<v Speaker 1>and I just of course went along with it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I mean talk about true best friendship, like literally, Caroline,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so and the fact that we have the

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<v Speaker 1>same name is crazy. But I feel so lucky because

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<v Speaker 1>we have been best friends our whole life. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>never didn't we never like lost it, you know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even after you went to Baylor and then Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then came back to Austin. It didn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how far away we were. How you know

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<v Speaker 1>many days we're in between us chatting. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have something like that, it's just rare, lucky

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<v Speaker 1>and it never goes away. Man. So when Michael and

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<v Speaker 1>I broke up are now Michael and I had dated

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<v Speaker 1>four years and then I broke up with him for

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<v Speaker 1>two years. And when I broke up, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am moving to Austin. And Caroline, you had just

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Austin because you we both said it, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you you've been living in Fort Worth and you

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Austin. And I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. I feel like my life is flying apart,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am moving in the same apartment complex with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an apartment in there before I even like

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it, like I didn't care where the apartment was.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, I'm moving in the same place with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like on like one floor apart, but like

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<v Speaker 1>so close. So every single day we would hang out

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<v Speaker 1>and like I was even there when you started dating Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>your husband. I hope y'all meet, I know, I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the funny thing was was I was so

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<v Speaker 1>so I went to UM I was living in Waco

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<v Speaker 1>because I went to law school. There were not in

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<v Speaker 1>for so I was so excited because I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to move to Austin and I was gonna be single,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my best friend was moving there and we

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna be single together. Yes, Pato, we were just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna date like crazy, which I did you stopped, yes, yeah, weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Well then I met Jason, like basically right when we

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<v Speaker 1>moved there, and then that's all. Man, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>fun year. We had lots of fun. Oh Aia, you

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<v Speaker 1>hope you ran. Katherine and I decided to train for

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<v Speaker 1>a marathon, a half marathon, and you just would run

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<v Speaker 1>with us just for fun, and then we run to

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<v Speaker 1>the bar and get angrea and drink. We'd run two miles,

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<v Speaker 1>run straight to the bar and then just drink tons

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<v Speaker 1>of sangrea. Yeah, that's the best Thingria ever. That was

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<v Speaker 1>so good. But yeah, we lots of lots of fun times.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a fun year. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>we got to, like before we were married, before we

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<v Speaker 1>had kids, we got to like live adult life. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to like live adult life together exactly, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so fun because we were you know, older and

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<v Speaker 1>like out of a certain time of our life and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just got to enjoy kind of a new face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And then here here comes all the babies.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have two babies. Now one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>my god child? Yes, sorry is your board? And Knox

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<v Speaker 1>and were cutting out before in October. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>Knox is already four. Okay, yeah, so Knox will before

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<v Speaker 1>in October and four it will be two in October.

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<v Speaker 1>So um yeah, just grown up. What's that like raising boys?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are outnumbered? You have obviously your husband and

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<v Speaker 1>two boys, and so what is it like in a

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<v Speaker 1>house of boys? Um? Well, I mean it's all I know,

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<v Speaker 1>unless I'm comparing it to friends that have girls or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, remembering my nieces when they were younger. But

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<v Speaker 1>boys are crazy. I mean they're full, They're full of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, I love it because, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we played basketball and I love sports and

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<v Speaker 1>I love being active and so I love all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of high end activity with boys. But it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they wake up they're ready to go and

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<v Speaker 1>it is NonStop. So do they just run around like

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<v Speaker 1>little tornadoes? Oh? Yeah, we call them ban cheese. There

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<v Speaker 1>are band cheese and they are NonStop. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>requires so much energy. I mean my mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>are helping right now. Um, but like you really can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do to both of them, obviously at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time because they're my kids, but a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for my mom. She can't take both of them at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time so much. They run off there exploring,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, it's just NonStop. So y'all are in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado right now? Yes, so we escaped, escaped the heat

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, just being able to stay you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six ft away from everybody and your whole fans there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's here. They're slowly starting, everyone slowly starting to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, we're just enjoying the nice cool weather

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<v Speaker 1>here and staying out of Texas. What has it been

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<v Speaker 1>like being in Colorado? And did you'all fly there? No?

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<v Speaker 1>So we um we usually fly because we come every summer,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, you know, with the pandemic and everything, we

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<v Speaker 1>just weren't comfortable putting our banshees on an airplane. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they just put their hands in their mouths.

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<v Speaker 1>They aren't great at wearing their masks, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>were just too too young. So we um packed up

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<v Speaker 1>our vehicle and left and we spent the night in

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<v Speaker 1>Amarillo and then made the rest of the trip here.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did great. You know, how was that car trip? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I really geared myself up for it to be awful,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, this is gonna be awful because

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<v Speaker 1>we took them to edge Falls, you know one time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a little little secret water hole in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>that y'all go to, like a little pond far. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's um, it's our family's place that's um in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and it has a big watering hole. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to that, you might recall when we took

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<v Speaker 1>a little trip there when we were seniors in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so we took the kids on a trip

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<v Speaker 1>there and it's usually like three hours from Waco, and

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<v Speaker 1>Knox is potty trained, and so anytime he had to

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<v Speaker 1>stop to good bathroom and we had to pull over,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course he wanted to buy something at

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<v Speaker 1>the gas station, so it ended up turning into like

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<v Speaker 1>a five and a half hour trip, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I was like, I'm never driving anywhere that's

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<v Speaker 1>longer than like two hours with these kids. But then

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<v Speaker 1>this whole opportunity came up and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess we're just gonna go. Yeah, how many hours? So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like fourteen and a half or fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>How how did you do it? So? Yeah, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? Well? I guess during COVID. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the great mother that I am, I got my kids

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to the iPads, so we um, so we put

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<v Speaker 1>the iPads on and they didn't complain too much. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you what do they like to watch? So? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they call it bob Ba, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>really anything they find on kids YouTube. Kids so Knox

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<v Speaker 1>has really gotten into They watch all these little like

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<v Speaker 1>truck videos and car videos like kids. Um. Knox has

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<v Speaker 1>recently gotten into more like Pepper Pig and um Curious George. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they like to watch There's all these like

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<v Speaker 1>songs and like baby Bus and all these different things

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<v Speaker 1>that I hope they're learning from. Um. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it I geared it up for it to be awful,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it turned out to not to not be

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. So what have you love doing in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>What have you all been doing? This? And awesome? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the best part is that you know, we can get

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<v Speaker 1>the kids out of the house. You know, in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>it's like so so hot that if you're not in water,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now, you can't go anywhere. Um, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>hot outside. So you know, it's just so beautiful here

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<v Speaker 1>that we can take them to every single playground. I

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<v Speaker 1>bike them, you know, all around. We got to watering

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<v Speaker 1>holes and just kind of adventure outside seven So it's

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<v Speaker 1>so fun. I know what, Um, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this pandific? Like? What is happening? Like? What is

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the world? You know, it's it's crazy, it's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't even know if I've told you, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we actually had a COVID scare here really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So um, first of all, back to my thoughts. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just it's to me, it's scary. It's um,

0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just the unknown, you know. So um, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are where we are and we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>go with it. And um, you know, for me being

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<v Speaker 1>around my parents, I want to make sure that um

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<v Speaker 1>and they help with the kiddo that we're taking all

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<v Speaker 1>the precautions weekend too, you know, be safe and keep

0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.679
<v Speaker 1>our kids around them. So UM. But anyway, so our

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<v Speaker 1>babysitter drove up to Colorado with my mom because my

0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.880
<v Speaker 1>mom didn't want to fly. So she drives up with

0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.160
<v Speaker 1>my mom and UM, she's with us for like from

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<v Speaker 1>Monday until Saturday. She flies home Saturday. Well, Sunday, the

0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>next day she gets home, she um doesn't feel good,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly sinuses, et cetera, and goes to the doctor thinking

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.480
<v Speaker 1>she just has a sinus infection. Well, they ended up

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>testing her for um corona and she had it. Oh gosh,

0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.920
<v Speaker 1>she was with you all the whole time. Yes, so

0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>we were totally freaked out because my mom was in

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<v Speaker 1>the car with her for sixteen hours and with you

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<v Speaker 1>at the house and I mean everything, How did I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea? I mean, we are so shocked. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when my mom drove up with her, she

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<v Speaker 1>made her wear a mask the whole time in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom wore a mask and then she sat

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<v Speaker 1>in the back seat. Um, because my mom had talked

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<v Speaker 1>to my sister who lives in Hong Kong, and in

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong at school, they've rearranged desks and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>they do something where kids can't turn backwards or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Something she learned from my sister. She

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<v Speaker 1>put her our babysitter in the back seat, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she took every oh and road with the windows down

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<v Speaker 1>most of the way. Your mom has always been when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to taking precautions, Leave it to Cynthia to

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<v Speaker 1>go right. There's a ten out of ten. Cynthia is

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<v Speaker 1>doing a twenty twenty out of ten checklist exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety first. Always, she's always seen a new articles on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet about some weird disease floating around, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it actually is happening. All her precautions are paying off, right,

0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.360
<v Speaker 1>So um, anyway, she sent um, she did all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then none of us bought it. So we called

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<v Speaker 1>our you know, doctor to make sure, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to do anything else. But we stayed away

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen days and kind of followed all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but none of us got it. That's crazy. Yeah, but

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know she had very very mild symptoms and lost

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<v Speaker 1>our taste and smell, and yeah, that's it. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just it's like I always tried to

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<v Speaker 1>find the positive and everything, and there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of positive like yes, we're getting like family time and

0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's like helping us reassess our values.

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<v Speaker 1>But like just like when is it kind of and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, jobs and working and like but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I've just we've never lived through anything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just bananas and like I want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas to go see to see my family, to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like living in Nashville, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>We're debating on if we should fly it will that

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<v Speaker 1>be like is it worth the risk? And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's hard

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Sunny being so small, that's a long

0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>car trip with her that. Um, we got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>on chugging along and just doing all that we can.

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I actually pulled my boys out of

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<v Speaker 1>school so I was I wasn't comfortable sending them to school,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I know the school is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>above and beyond to keep them safe. Um, but you know,

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:38.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just so small, and um that was my personal decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you homeschooling? Well, they're you know, they're so

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.840
<v Speaker 1>small that we don't really have to homeschool much, right right. Um,

0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:54.879
<v Speaker 1>So my mom um has a preschool curriculum knowledge, and

0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so she's going to homeschool and art. She'll help teach

0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Knogs a little bit. I feel like your mom's made

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Like she's probably gonna love it. Yeah she

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.439
<v Speaker 1>she We'll see if not, how Knox does. They're so

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<v Speaker 1>close that I don't know if Knox will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to like sit and try to learn stuff. He'll want

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.919
<v Speaker 1>to go outside and explore and all of that. Is

0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.959
<v Speaker 1>it so great having your family around now that you

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.439
<v Speaker 1>have kids? Yeah? So, you know, we have Knox in

0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Austin and um, Jason, my husband just travels all the

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.880
<v Speaker 1>time with work. And as much as we loved Austin,

0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.959
<v Speaker 1>it just we just knew that becoming Dwaco would be easier. Um.

0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, being being home and having family right

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<v Speaker 1>there to help. I mean, you don't realize how incredible

0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it is until you have it. Yeah, so um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been so blessed and lucky to have that

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<v Speaker 1>and they're so so helpful and gives mommy a break

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. So what is it like coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to Waco as an adult? Because we grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Waco and I felt like Waco was such a great

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>place to grow up. And then you went to TCU,

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.399
<v Speaker 1>which isn't Fort Worth, and then, um, I guess you

0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>came back to Waco for law school, so you kind

0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.199
<v Speaker 1>of knew what it was like living in Waco, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the college vibe. What's it like living in

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<v Speaker 1>Waco as an adult? Well, you know what's funny is

0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that I always said and thought to myself, I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to come back to Waco. I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, why is it that we say that about

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>our hometown. It's like, oh, I'm gonna get out and

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>go do all this stuff. But then you're like, god,

0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 1>home is really actually great. Well yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>like everything changed is once you have kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything changes and your priorities changed, and um,

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we're young and single or newly married

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<v Speaker 1>or with no kids, you can go and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do and you know, we like in Austin, we've loved

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<v Speaker 1>like going out and going to restaurants and all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can do. But once you have kids,

0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:11.359
<v Speaker 1>especially babies, all that changes so um. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 1>once I had Knox in Austin, I truly missed the

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<v Speaker 1>community that Waco was to us growing up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just incredible people in Waco, um like so supportive.

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I remember somebody saying that it takes

0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a village to raise a kid, and you know, you

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>pick your village and you find people that are there

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<v Speaker 1>to help and support you. And I just think that

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Waco has such strong community and support you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so coming back to raise a family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so it's so different, and um, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much to do. I mean, you have great children's museums

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you have. I mean, to me, one of the my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things is Ridgewood and you know, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the lake in five minutes, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean up on the lake. Oh my gosh, the lake

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>was everything. Your dad taught me how to ski. I

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>mean I wasn't great at it, but he taught me.

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>You would like get up on your swallow like at five, Yes,

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and then I've got two skis trying not to bust

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>my face. Um, but yeah, your dad was the king

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>of teaching everyone to ski. I know, we used to

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 1>live on that lake. There's just so do well and

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you have a family, you know, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do when you have a young family

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and a family. I still remember when my dad surprised us.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember our jet skis? Okay, so yeah, Well

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 1>my dad like surprised us with jet skis. But they

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>were literally I mean I had never even seen a

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>jet ski before. They were like the first jet skis

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like ever out. And we thought they were so fast.

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but now looking back on what they have now,

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were like do do do? Just like

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>not not so fast. We felt so independent, like being

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on a jet skime and getting to go dart around

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the lake. Ye oh man but um and then we

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>would you know, tie those alligators behind the barge, blow

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>up alligators, like sit on the alligators while we went out,

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was so fun. So now I'm taking the

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 1>barge out. So we grew up going out on that barge.

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm taking up taking it out with my friends,

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's so fun. I know. I realized now like

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>our parents really did design a really great life. I mean,

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you got the you got the swimming pool, you got

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the barge, you got if you want to go golfing,

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>then there's great countryside near a Waco where you can

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>go explore. Really, it grows, great schools, a great community.

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Really is a nice, nice thing. Now that we have funy,

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, gosh, uh, we're so far away from Waco,

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, god, I get it, I get it.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>You get it. And also what's so great about Wakers

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<v Speaker 1>You're right in between Dallas and Austin, So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we would always go shopping in Dallas. Yeah,

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know it's just so easy to get to

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and if you want to go, you know, out to

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>eat in Austin, you can go and come back. So um, yeah,

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>we've we've enjoyed it. And you know for me too,

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<v Speaker 1>uh with Jason traveling for his work before the whole

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>pandemic um happened and he stopped traveling, but you know

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>he would when we lived in Austin, it could take

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>him an hour and a half to go, you know,

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 1>ten miles from the airport. But in Waco, I mean

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>he literally just lands and um is home in ten minutes.

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 1>So for us, it's just been easier and I think,

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we get to spend more time with our family.

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, for us at work, you know, every you

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 1>just got to evaluate what you know your family needs.

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's hard, but I know, fitting it on.

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>So how do you balance because you're obviously a lawyer,

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you're a mother, and sometimes you are a single mother

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 1>because Jason is gone traveling. How do you keep all

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>those plates in the air? How do you do working

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and raising kids and then parenting alone sometimes? Yeah? So, um,

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I I think all of it is hard.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Whether you're a full time mom, whether you're full time worker,

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>part time mom, single mom, all of it is hard,

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and so you just have to, you know, give yourself

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>grace to be the best that you can be and

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>just kind of take it day by day. So, you know,

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I just try to balance everything the best I can.

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And I realized that I'm not gonna be able to

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>do something and work life. But what's your work balance?

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>What's your work? Um? I guess work? Yeah, yeah, so um,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know I try to. I try to spend as

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<v Speaker 1>much time as I can with my kids because it's

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna go as fast as it it's gonna go, So

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I try to do my work when the kids are

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>napping or when they've gone to sleep at night, or

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I wake up an hour early before they wake up

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to try to get it done. So I try to

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get my work done, um, you know, when i'm when

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>i'm can and the kids are you know, sleeping, et cetera.

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 1>But I also know that sometimes I'm just not going

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to get it done and I might have to give

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>him the iPad to to let them just sit there

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for an hour. And that's okay, you know, it's okay.

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>So um, and then I call in for help because

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to call in for help. I call my babysitter,

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I call my mom, um, because you have

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to realize that it's okay to have help, you know,

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and to call on help. Yes, And I love too though.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I love that our generation, especially like I feel like

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it was really hard to do, uh, to sometimes be

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a full time mom or as much of a full

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 1>time mom as you can, and to have a career.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that like we as women in this

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<v Speaker 1>day and age, we really can we can do both.

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's I think it's great to show

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>your kids I'm having your career I'm also percent here

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>for you, but sometimes I have to, like I have

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to get help because I I am a I want

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 1>to show that to Sonny, Like I don't want you

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to not do your dreams, like when you grow up,

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like if you have kids, Like, yes, obviously you be

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a mom if you want to, but like, still do

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>your dreams. And I think that's good to show your

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>kids that you're still working hard and providing for the

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>family and doing your dreams and being a mom. Like

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a great love that that's we live this generation.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>And I right, And I mean I think like for

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you having a daughter, I think it's awesome for her

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to see her mom doing that. For me having sons,

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I want them to, you know, see the importance of

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>um having a mom that's doing that or in the future,

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, a woman supporting them to support their dreams

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and goals and help them, um, you know, get where

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>they want to get, um, you know, whenever they're older,

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>finding their wife, I guess, um, so yeah, I mean

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I just try to And you know, for me, it's

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>good for my kids to get a break from me.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>They need to be around, you know, other people. And

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>for me it's a good. I need a break, like

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I need to get on you know, a work email

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and have an adult conversation with somebody. You know, it's just,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's good for everyone to get that, um,

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that little bit of break too totally, and I just

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>try to do the best. You know, I've realized I'm

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>not going to be perfect at everything. I'm not going

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to be a perfect mom every day. I'm not going

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to be perfect at my work every day. I just

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>have to do the best I can and then you know,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's a new day. Amen to that. What has motherhood?

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>How has motherhood changed to? Well, for me, you know,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it's completely changed my UM priorities. You know, I before

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I was more about myself probably we all all were,

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I focused on what I wanted to

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>do when I wanted to do it, um, you know,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and I could because I had no other responsibilities. So

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, now everything is about my kids first and

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so put I always of course put them first, and

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>everything I really try to do is for them. UM

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and so changing probably parties and just you know, of course,

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, feeling a love for somebody that you've never

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>felt before. So it's just life changing and it's the

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>greatest you know, gift that I think. What's a day

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>or memory that you think of that just brings you

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>so much joy, Like when you think about it, it it

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>just swells your heart. Um. I think probably the day

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.959
<v Speaker 1>that I gave birth to Knox, because um, you know,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>but not everybody else knows that we did. We did surprises,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, with knocks and boards, so we didn't know

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>if it was a boy. We didn't know if it

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>was a girl. And so with our with Knox, you know,

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>just having that moment not only that I became a mom,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but also only Jason and I in that moment knew

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that we had a son, and so it was it's

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty seriously, I know, it was just like you know,

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so besides the doctor's nurses of course, but just having

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that moment of becoming parents, but also like here's here's

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>our son that nobody else knew whether it was a

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>girl or boy, and so it was just really um,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>really special and um, you know, I just you don't

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>ever know what it's like until it happens, you know,

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So that day, I know what you mean, like that

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>day when meeting Sunny, like I it is, oh, it

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>is just the most transformative experience I think I'll ever

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>have in my life. Like it's just insane, I know,

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and you just are holding this tiny human being that

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>depends on you, i mean for survival, and so yes,

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it's you feel like, oh my gosh, I have this responsibility,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>but you know, the love and everything that goes along

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>with it is just there's nothing like it. Yeah, so

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that's probably obviously my happiest moment, you know, kiro Um Okay,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>So I well, I'm so happy that we finally haven't

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to get this interview documented because literally

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you have shaped me so much. You are so much

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of who I am, like honestly the Carolines for life.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just been such a blessing in my life

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to have you as a best friend, To have someone

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that you walk through every single phase of life with

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>who has known you from the start, like to just

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>be seen you have seen each other our whole lives.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a blessing is that to have a

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>friend like that, And now like you have families together,

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and our husbands get along, and when we all get together,

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like so fun and it's just like that's just

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 1>so rare and I think the older I get, the

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>more I realize the rarity of it, you know, because

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>when you're young and you're doing all this stuff, like

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>every exciting and you meet people and all this stuff,

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but then like when you get to this next chapter,

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, wow, these are the people in my life.

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you are a person in my life who is

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a rock of who I am. And it's just amazing, right,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And I mean there's very few that have you know,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that that are able to go through all of this

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>part of life with each other. You know. You meet

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>your good college friends, you you meet your good post

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>college friends, you meet your mommy friends. Like, but I

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>mean you and I have been going at it since birth,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know we I mean I still have my

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>best friend necklace. Best friend necklaces when we were like

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in elementary school. I still have mine too. Yeah. So

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we had it's the little heart that fits together, and

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>then on the backside of it we have k Rose

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and kiro S and we got the other one's name,

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I have the Caro s because you're my I

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>wear that piece of my heart is you, and then

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you have the Carol seat. And we needed to do

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>gymnastics together. All the time, and you were South Carolina

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was North Carolina or what was it? Or yeah, yeah,

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Yeah, I mean everything, not one thing that

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>we not do together. I know it's so fun. I mean,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could we could go on literally for

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>years of all our our memories and excursions and uh,

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>all the things we did. But what's something? What's the

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>story you are there any stories that you have of

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>our childhood that just like pop into your mind that

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>must be shared. Um well, I mean to show what

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>strong of a bond we had. You know, I got

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>really upset when you started going to camp, like because

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I pretty much only spent the night with

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you, you you know when we have sleepovers, so you know,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you start going to camp for like a month, and

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>what is she doing? She's leaving me for a month.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And after that it affected me because I couldn't spend

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the night. And remember when you came back, I would

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>try to spend the night with you and you get

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a stomach acheta ache am but ur tim pm I

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, and your dad would have to take me home.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But oh every time the night would come around and

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you be like, let's don't reake her. I know, I

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>know I ruined you. I ruined you. Yeah, so that

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>really affected me. When you started to go to camp

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>what would be yours? Then we even thought like I

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>just don't know why this is pup in my mind.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Like we would get boxes and you and I made

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>little symbols of like a language, and then we'd write

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>out like all the language and the symbols and we

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>try to like we hear to each other that no

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>one else could read with us. Yes, we had our

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>own private language for sure. Oh yeah, I don't know.

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just like it just such a blessing in my life.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I am so thankful for our relationship. It's just amazing.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's so incredible. I remember. I also remember

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like when your mom would pick us up from carpool

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>with that fried okra oh from under U. Yes, we

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>go get fried okra and need a whole pint of it.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Um so so good, oh gosh. And when we were

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>spending night at your house, we would prank called boys

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>would like callum and prank call all the boys, and

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes boys would even come over to your house and

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we like prank called Grand Gooble and Russell Jones and

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's what I remember. When we were

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>in like third grade, Russell. Wait, somebody wanted to ask

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you out, but you already had a boyfriend. So they

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>asked me out for the Consultis prize. Who wasn't which one?

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember one of the boys. I think it

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>was Russell. I think he wanted to ask you out,

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>but you already dating Grant Goble and third grade and

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>then so Russell just asked me out as the side

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>of that, as a as a second place winner, and

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, yes, three up. Oh gosh, but we would

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>we would have like whenever we would break up, we

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>would have a friend break up with them. We couldn't.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever did it themselves. No, no, every all the

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>boys always wanted to ask you out, and then I

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>would just get I would be the leftover, like whoever.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>It's so true. You were like the one all the

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>boys wanted to date, and then I was like cool

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, like I would get if you were taken.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Then they'd be like, Okay, I guess I'll ask out

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Caroline Cuver. Oh hush, well you know what I mean.

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:47.240
<v Speaker 1>We went together, So yeah, you and I always together.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so funny. Oh my gosh, I feel like

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they're like I feel like I remember we would go

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to elkie Kistador with our parents like every First Friday

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>or something, and I feel like one of us broke

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>up with a boyfriend from the pay phone at El Conqustador.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>You did with Grant Globel. Yeah, yeah, that was right.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Caro, God, the memories, it's just so good.

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I love that love. I love it all. So I

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>always in all my podcasts with leave your Life, but

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of traying it into since the podcast is

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>called Get Real. Why do you want to get real

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>with people? What kind of what do you want people

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to know about myself? Anything? Just like what comes in mind?

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you want? What kind of wisdom do

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to get real and drop on people? Um?

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a tough question. I know, what do

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you want your about yourself? And then what do you

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 1>want to know about life? I know, I'm sorry, there

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you go. It's not it's no easy. There's no crying

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in baseball, Caroline. Okay, got to ask you a question.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that as you know, I've gotten older,

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've just realized that life changes, you know,

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you think that things are going to

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>go a certain way, um, and and they don't. And

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so I think you have to be able to And

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>for me, change is hard, you know, I don't I

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>don't like change. I get comfortable in my way and

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't like change. So I think you have to realize, um,

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that change is inevitable and when it happens, UM, you

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>have to accept it. You have to be strong, and

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to persevere. Um. But you have to remember

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to look out for yourself and take care of yourself.

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And so ud you learn that would you not look

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>out for yourself for a while, like way you down? Well,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that um, you know, just their

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>family experiences. Um. And I think I was always one

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>to kind of UM, I would think kind of put

0:38:55.719 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>others first and um, and I you know, I think

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just important to take care of yourself and you know, um,

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, for for me, you know, one reason that

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I became a lawyer was that my parents always instilled

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>in me that you know, how important education is and

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>being able to support yourself because you never know what's

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>going to happen in life. And so um, you know,

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>That's one reason I continue to, you know, try to

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>work and balance everything because you never know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, so you have to take care of yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, look out for yourself when things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think realizing that change is inevitable, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you'll have experienced it with death and the

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<v Speaker 1>family and unexpected death and just work changes, life changes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, yeah, that's what That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So as Carol, I don't know about that. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also trying to live by your words. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say a lot of words, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard harder to live by what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of making it a purpose to practice and

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<v Speaker 1>act what you believe in. You know. I love that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>walking the walk, not just talking the talk exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 1>because you know a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people do talk the talk because they want people to

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>perceive them a certain way. And so um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think just trying to find who you are, what

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in, um and act it, you know, act

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<v Speaker 1>what you what values, what morals, et cetera. That are yours? Amen, Carol,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much. If you're getting the boys

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<v Speaker 1>out with your parents and and figuring out the time

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to get this podcast done. I mean, it's just I'm

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>telling you, making it all fit. It's like a puzzle.

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And I am so glad we could have this conversation

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>history forever. And I'm glad I could use my cell

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>phone because I couldn't figure out the zoom on the

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, of course, like not able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get myself ready every morning. Oh don't worry. I mean

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I look terrible every day. I mean I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm sorry, Michael, I need to try again

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Well, you know what, you know what's funny

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<v Speaker 1>is every New year, every new year, I'm like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna really folk. Like I mean, I love you know,

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I love to work out, to work out. You always

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>want to work out, right, and I can put my

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>workout clothes on and go work out. But you know,

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I look at so many moms that are always put together.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, their hair's done, their makeups done, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a cute outfit on. So every New Year, I'm gonna

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>do this partason and they get back to their pre

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy anyway, and I'm like, how do you do this?

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And their hairs all curled and everything. And every New Year,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm gonna do this for Jason. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like start getting myself ready, you know, because I mean

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in high school, I love to get ready. I would

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>get my hair straight, I would have it queued outside

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>every day, Oh my god, and I would like think

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the night before about my outfit that I was gonna wear.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, So every New Year, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the year I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>focus on really getting ready. And that's where priorities, you know,

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>or not there. We're not first anymore, I know. And

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I want Michael to think I'm sexy. I

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<v Speaker 1>want him to think like, oh dang, girl, you look good.

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, when it actually rolls around in the

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>morning happens and Sunny's crying and you gotta get the

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>bottle going and you're on the floor chasing around, I'm like,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I do not want to be in freaking jeans. I

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>cannot have my hair down because she's gonna rip it out.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>That's on earrings anything other than instead she's pulling them out.

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I put on makeup, I'm gonna have

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 1>milk on it. She's gonna wipe her face. Hey and

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>down it like why food is in my hair. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, I'm not. I can't do it. I'm sorry,

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I cannot do it. The actual um, the the the

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>reward is not worth it to me, Like it is

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>so much more of a pain. And they asked to

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>have to do to be ready than just to put

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<v Speaker 1>on work our clothes and roll with it. I'm sorry

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:29.919
<v Speaker 1>us take his time a date now dressed up? Yeah,

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and we're in a pandemic. So where are we going?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. But you know they make so much cute

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 1>workout clothes now, so and it shows your button your

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>boobs and that's great. Yeah, yeah, there we are. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you the whole world, and have the great

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>rest of your time in Colorado. Thank you, love you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and thanks for having me. Yeah this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best, Okay, I love you.