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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: How the heck are you on this blistering hot summer day.

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Speaker 1: Let's go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Brown Steve to ask her with you on

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Speaker 2: a Monday in a long time coming, bro s leave,

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Speaker 2: I think summer finally popped.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: My wife bought a pot of sunflowers, just you know,

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Speaker 2: for the yard. She's gonna keep them in the pot,

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Speaker 2: and she puts him out by our pool deck. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna tell you they get full sun from like

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Speaker 2: eleven to six.

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: We came back to the house yesterday after driving back

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Speaker 2: from Philly, where we were this weekend visiting my son,

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Speaker 2: and uh we we pull into the driveway and she's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you may want to water some of the plants. I

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Speaker 2: was like, all right, you get the stuff in the house,

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Speaker 2: I'll water some stuff. So I'm I go in the back.

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Speaker 2: These sunflowers just just bent in the at the waist,

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Speaker 2: just like the couldn't take it. I was like, So

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Speaker 2: I said to my wife, I says, I'm shocked. They're

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Speaker 2: called sunflowers, right, Like, you can't take intense sun for

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Speaker 2: six hours you're called you're literally called a sunflower. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's because of how they look, not because of the heat.

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Speaker 2: They can withstand. Yes, Fortunately I poured some uh, I

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Speaker 2: got some water in the pot there, and they perked

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Speaker 2: up this morning, and I watered them again before I

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Speaker 2: left for work today because I was like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: coming home to the same murder scene again, right, we

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Speaker 2: just bottoms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. So did you have a good

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Speaker 1: Father's Day?

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Speaker 2: It was good. I've got young adults now and they

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Speaker 2: don't live here for all intents and purposes. So we

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Speaker 2: did a road trip on the weekend. My daughter was

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Speaker 2: nice enough to take the train down from New York

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Speaker 2: met us in Philly and went to a soccer game

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Union.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: It ended in horrific fashion because even though they were

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Speaker 2: up eleven players to nine due to two red cards,

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Speaker 2: they still managed to find a way to lose the game. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: down two guys. Miami was down two players and they

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Speaker 2: still managed to win the game to one. But great venue,

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Speaker 2: great atmosphere, has got stadium. They're right on the Delaware River.

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Speaker 2: You got boats, you know tank he is coming by.

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Speaker 2: And it was just a beautiful night up heer seventies.

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Speaker 2: Really a good atmosphere there, and we couldn't have been

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Speaker 1: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: Got to get down on the field for pregame warm ups.

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Speaker 2: I just like watching the drills and stuff. I eat

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Speaker 2: that stuff up, so it was really cool. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, had breakfast with uh, the kids and the

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Speaker 2: missus Sunday morning for Father's Day. And then my son

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Speaker 2: could meet up with her dad for Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: Nice weekend in Philly, though it was great, weather was great.

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Speaker 2: Ending of the game was not great, but it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a good game experience. I would say, it's.

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Speaker 1: A great weekend. Man.

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Speaker 4: You had your big bash, fortunately little yard party at

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Speaker 4: my house, good stuff. Uh, followed by a you know,

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Speaker 4: Father's Day where I was cleaning up after my my

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Speaker 2: Night and that doesn't compute for me.

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Speaker 1: It's all right.

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Speaker 4: Part of the deal I had a I was, I

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Speaker 4: right because I'm not one of those guys. But so

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Speaker 4: I'm we're having breakfast with my son and his three sons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and my my wife and lit.

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Speaker 4: The little guys. I mean, and my wife has this

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Speaker 4: We used to do that when our kids were growing up.

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Speaker 4: So in Father's day, she says, what do you love

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Speaker 4: he points at me, he goes, your son well, which

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Speaker 1: Know that like I did.

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Speaker 2: Instead, he had einsteined to you.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I was like, why I can't I

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Speaker 4: can't even imagine. I can't even argue with it, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, oh, very nice. It kind of

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Speaker 4: I got to say, I got some Father's Day presence

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Speaker 4: that might have been the best one.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of cool. He says, yeah, your son,

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Speaker 2: Did he like pop that out like immediately or.

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Speaker 1: And he looked at me. He looked me right in

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Speaker 2: Well, an insane moment of clarity.

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Speaker 4: There was a nice gift, except on a day when

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Speaker 4: at least I didn't have a three and a half

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Speaker 4: The putt like Bryson D Shamboa. You know, I'll tell

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Speaker 4: Shambau Win's the US Open yesterday on Father's Day which

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Speaker 4: Pretty cool because you know, usually these guys like this,

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Speaker 1: Look at hey, look what I did. This is cool? Right,

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Speaker 4: That it was great. It was really cool. I I

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Speaker 4: like when athletes break the dough and just be themselves. Man,

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Speaker 4: just be yourself. You're you're He's comfortable and listen. Bryson

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Speaker 4: He makes his own He made his own clubs for

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Speaker 4: the Masters, for crying out loud, right, He three D

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Speaker 1: And had to make and he does, and he does.

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Speaker 4: He's got an awkward swing, awkward putting stroke, and all

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Speaker 4: his clubs are there the same length. Instead of having

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Speaker 1: Really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was glued to soccer for the weekend because

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Speaker 2: we got a lot of soccer. Yes, come in your waist, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Which is big? Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's yes, it's it's the biggest thing in Europe,

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of their answer to the Euros. It's

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Speaker 2: But they're happening simultaneously over this next month here, so

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Speaker 1: The best players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just so it's like America, Brazil, Columbia, Mexico

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's wall to wall, you know. And

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see if you know, Fox, which

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Speaker 1: Come over here, yeah, come over and watch soccer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the because soccer sometimes does outdraw baseball in ratings.

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Speaker 4: Now, i'd watch it before baseball, you know how I

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Speaker 4: feel about that. But the NBA Finals with the Celtics

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Speaker 1: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because these teams are just so worn

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Speaker 4: Products some but I think it's non competitive. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the Celtics are up three to nothing. No team has

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Speaker 4: first in history. But they walk into the last, into

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Speaker 4: the game four in Dallas, and you could tell, I

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Speaker 1: That Boston didn't want to win that game.

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Speaker 4: They were like, let's get back to Boston's we can

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Speaker 4: win a championship in our building. Well, let's just let

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Speaker 4: them have And they won, and then indeed, Mavericks won

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Speaker 4: by thirty plus. I mean, they were crushing it. The

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Speaker 4: Celtics could not have been less interested, and it was obvious.

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Speaker 1: And I get it.

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Speaker 4: these the guys at halftime, everybody's like going, oh, but

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Speaker 1: Isn't they doing that?

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Speaker 4: off to rest up. And then the Edmonton Panthers series.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for McDavid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the best player in the world and he's

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Speaker 1: It's oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different universe.

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Speaker 2: Get Florida might have been doing the same thing, dropping

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Speaker 2: an eight to one decision. Let's just get back to Florida.

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Speaker 1: That's all, that's all it is. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, so whatever, So I'm I might

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Speaker 1: Is the US gonna play Mexico in this thing?

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Speaker 2: It's possible. I haven't looked at the brackets, but you

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh, we do have bills news. Though they released

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Speaker 2: We all knew that camp on July twenty third, with

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Speaker 2: Information on that pre sale will be email to members

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Speaker 2: Training camp Tickets for the general public will be distributed

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Speaker 2: That's really the nuts and bolts of it. Looking like

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll get out there on that first week

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Speaker 4: The team's gonna get it down because that's right before

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Speaker 1: We'll be over there for the remainder of every day.

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Speaker 2: There a little back and forth, but mostly out there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they only stay out there for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're home twice.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: So they're they're on the road at Chicago, no, no, here,

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Speaker 2: So if you need more information, go to Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: work out a long term deal, and then Ayuk responds

441
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: with an IG post that says money talks and you

442
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: know what walks. Then in April he unfollows the forty

443
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: nine ers on Instagram. Then Jeremy Fowler reports that Ayuk

444
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: wants a monro Saint Brown money and wants to use

445
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: it as a benchmark. Then it was reported earlier this

446
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: month that Ayuk might still be traded before the November

447
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 2: trade deadline, you know, right after Halloween. And then today

448
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: we get this TikTok conversation between Ayuk and Jaden Daniels.

449
00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: So I am completely stupefied as to what kind of

450
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: leverage people are trying to gain here, like just talk

451
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: to the other side or have your agent, Like, come on,

452
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

453
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: I think to me, this is on Ayuk. I mean

454
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: I haven't heard much coming out of the forty nine.

455
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Ers outside of John Lynch back in March saying we're

456
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: talking to their camp and blah blah.

457
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: Ayuk wants monster money. He doesn't want to play without it.

458
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: He wants thirty a year and that's it and he's

459
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 4: not going to do it without it, and the Niners

460
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: are going no, yeah, say no.

461
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: There's a part of me that wonders are the Niners

462
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: kind of in an if then scenario here in terms

463
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: of receiver commitment? And what I mean by that is

464
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: we've heard before. You know that Deebo Samuel is a

465
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: guy that a couple of years ago they were looking

466
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: to move off the roster. Ultimately they did not. Now

467
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: he's two years older. I think he's thirty or thirty one.

468
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 2: Only twenty six logic would say they'd prefer to keep

469
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: Ayuk for the long term move on from Samuel. So

470
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: are you kind of caught between a rock and a

471
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: hard place here where you can't give Ayuk the Monster

472
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: contract until you move Samuel off of your roster. I'm

473
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: wondering if those two are tied together or if they

474
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: are mutually exclusive. But I don't think I can foresee

475
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: a Niners roster that has Ayuk with a new deal

476
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: and Samuel on it at the same time. I think

477
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: it's one or the other. And so now the question becomes,

478
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: do you just part with Ayuk because you just don't

479
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: want to fork over that kind of money. I mean,

480
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: you still have Rock Purty on a rookie deal, so

481
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: you could conceivably hand out a giant contract. Now you

482
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: paid Nick Bosa giant money. Fred Warner got his deal,

483
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: so it's not like they're devoid of big contracts. Trent Williams,

484
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: the left tackle, is still making big money, so they

485
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: have a lot of big money contract.

486
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: Williams is the highest one. Then you got Deebo Samuel's

487
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 4: twenty eight million dollars yea.

488
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 2: So you can't have a twenty eight million a year

489
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: receiver and a.

490
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: Thirty eighteen Nick Bosa's fifteen. Brandon Ayuka is now he

491
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: gets fourteen because of the.

492
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: Fifty year ops fifty year option.

493
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 2: But they're real top heavy with contracts. I gotta believe

494
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: there's no team in the league in good conscience even

495
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: with a quarterback on a rookie contract that has two

496
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: receivers making twenty eight or more each. It's just to me,

497
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: it's not sustainable. Maybe for a year, but long term,

498
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: it's just not sustainable and it's not good business practice.

499
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: You have one alpha male and then fill in with

500
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: the rest. I mean, you want to have an eight

501
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: million dollar a year guy, Okay, I'll listen to that,

502
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: but you can't have two guys at twenty eight and thirty. Well,

503
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm realizing as I'm saying this that the Dolphins technically

504
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: kind of have that now.

505
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't. They don't have a Christian McCaffrey either.

506
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Well, no, they don't. And so who's making like what eighteen?

507
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 7: Right?

508
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: But his cap HiT's not that big. But he's still

509
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 4: got that big contract coming up. You know, he's going

510
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: to hit it in a minute. McCaffrey's got his numbers

511
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: six point six this year, but he's got a twenty

512
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 4: eight million dollar dead cap hit.

513
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere, right, So.

514
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and he was the leading rusher last year.

515
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: Why would he?

516
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

517
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: So it's interesting because now you've got it. It's always

518
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: been quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and it still is. But now

519
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: because of the cap getting big, and we're all getting

520
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: onto this page where there's money positions and there's not

521
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: money positions.

522
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, wide receiver is a.

523
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 4: Money spot and you need a bunch, you need a

524
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: handful of those guys. There isn't room for a handful

525
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 4: of those guys making twenty plus a year, and you

526
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: can let alone thirty.

527
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: You can't have two top of the market guys right

528
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: at the same position.

529
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: That's the interesting dynamic because everybody can always always afford

530
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: one guy at that position at quarterback, but you can't

531
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 4: afford three at one position.

532
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: That's why seeing the Dolphins go ahead and pay Waddle

533
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: recently was so surprising. Yeah, because they're already paying a

534
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 2: tyree thirty a year. Wattle's right behind him, and now

535
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: you still have to pay Tua Yeah, or are you

536
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: not gonna pay to well? All signs are pointing to

537
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: them paying to it, but they're gonna pay. You got

538
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence making fifty five a year too, it's got

539
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: to make more than that. He had better numbers than

540
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, better.

541
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Numbers they never say have to because that's the agent.

542
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 4: Miami could snap out of it and say maybe you know,

543
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: I mean, they could snap out of this new yes,

544
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: and which is what you and I both think.

545
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: There's just no way that.

546
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: Well, no, there because now you you don't sign him,

547
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: what's he play under the fifty year option? If he plays,

548
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: and then it's yeah, I mean he's probably holding out

549
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: right and saying trade me or whatever.

550
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 4: We've heard about Miami ownership. They they get him to

551
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: play the fifty year option and give him the old

552
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: helmet back and hope, I hope they don't have you know, wow,

553
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: I mean seriously, these are the guys that are paying

554
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: their head coach not to win. So yeah, it's it's

555
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 4: gonna it's dirty in Miami on there.

556
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't I just.

557
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: Don't understand this the way they they kind of navigated this.

558
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I would have thought, get the quarterback done first, figure

559
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: out Wattle later.

560
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: It's all backwards down there.

561
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: That just to me, you don't have Tua. Mike White

562
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: is your guy? Like that?

563
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: What what I get it?

564
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: I don't.

565
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: They've all no, I get it. They they got Tua.

566
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 4: They got to kind of live with him, and I

567
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: think in their heart of hearts they know he's not

568
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: gonna get it for him and they've got a long

569
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: way to go with the rest of their They've tried it.

570
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: They had that great defense, had all those guys over

571
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: on defense. It wasn't enough because you gotta face Josh

572
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: twice a year and he absolutely choose you up and

573
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: spits you out.

574
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you've got no chance even in your

575
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: own division.

576
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: And now the Jets, Now the Jets are gonna curb

577
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: stomp you with Tua.

578
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I mean that they gotta, they gotta.

579
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: They gotta be sitting there going.

580
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: The third best quarterback.

581
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: In the Yeah, it's it's a rough place to be.

582
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: So and maybe that's why it's taking so long, because

583
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: there Chris Career is probably sitting in his office now saying,

584
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay the third best quarterback in our division

585
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: fifty six million dollars a year.

586
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, think about it.

587
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what have we done?

588
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, when do you think that light went off for

589
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 4: those guys?

590
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: It was tank for t a tank for Tua.

591
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: So you get Tua and then the Chargers draft Justin Herbert,

592
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: who after you, after you? And he's standing he's over there,

593
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: like carrying the entire franchise on his back and still

594
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: can't get to the playoffs.

595
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: But still just the dude, all Right's yeah, I'm I'm

596
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: there's a So.

597
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: I am so up for seeing how the Tuist stuff

598
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: plays out, because if he signs a giant contract, it's

599
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna cripple them on the cap number one and number two.

600
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: It insulates the Bills as being vastly superior to the Dolphins.

601
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: In every possible way for the foreseeable future.

602
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Listen, I have our guys where nothing is.

603
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: To and I and I we we talk a lot

604
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: of bunk about the Dolphins, a lot who knows what

605
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: their their front office is really thinking. Uh and me

606
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: being you know, they're not going to give Tua his

607
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: old helmet back.

608
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I was teasing. But they got to be.

609
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: Sitting there thinking Tua is not good enough to make

610
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars and Tua's got All Tua has to

611
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: do is look hand them the stat sheet. Yeah, that's

612
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: an argument. That's an argument.

613
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: And listen, the Dolphins say, listen, you should be leading

614
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: the league in passing. We got you the two most elite.

615
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Guys ever receivers in the league.

616
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: And you can't.

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: They can outrun your arm.

618
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: So what are we talking about here, Tua?

619
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it gets weird and weirder the more

620
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: you talk about it. You look at two and now

621
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: this all you can't even recognize him. He looks like

622
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: a different guy, seriously, a different guy. He's skinny, he's

623
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: clean shaven, and he's got a new haircut. I did

624
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: not I have not recognized him in like a handful

625
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: of photos that where it said two at the bottom,

626
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't think that's him. I

627
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: think they got that wrong. Literally, is that his brother? Yeah,

628
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: it looks like his you know, his brother who's a quarterback.

629
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, who is that?

630
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Who?

631
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: Who doesn't follow the NFL enough that they would put

632
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: that picture with a Tua?

633
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: It looks that different. Hm, it's it is weirder than weird.

634
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: And then look at their head coach.

635
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: He's like this guy who's like, you know, it is

636
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: so weird in Miami right now, dude, it is like

637
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: sideways down there.

638
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: It is so crazy. Mike McDaniel, what was it? What

639
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: did he do?

640
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: Just do I he did something I can't remember. He's

641
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: in the news for making a statement or doing something

642
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: really and he just kind of reiterated the fact that

643
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: he's a different bird, right.

644
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, dude.

645
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: I think I like him, but I don't know. I

646
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: think I like him.

647
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Tua. It's like it's like he's changing it.

648
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: He's like in like he's ducking the mafia, trying to

649
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: look like somebody else. Right, He's like in a witness text,

650
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: like had plastic surgery to change the way he looks.

651
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: And nobody reckon, that's not him. Yeah, it's him, that's

652
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: the guy.

653
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: No, it's not Yes it is it's not him. No,

654
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: it's a no. Look at body, do look at the picture.

655
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: It's not him. He looks that different. Wow.

656
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I guess I haven't paid enough attention.

657
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: It's looked at pictures lately, so it's crazy. But you're

658
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: right though. He's looking for a new contract.

659
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: Fifty millions the number, and he's my best and he's

660
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: the third best quarterback in this division. If Rogers can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll wrap up around the NFL when we return.

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Speaker 2: Also got a topic of a discussion for you to

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Speaker 2: one Bill's player you're gonna be watching during this year's

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Speaker 2: training camp. We laid out the training camp schedule for you. Now,

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Speaker 2: who's at the top of your list to keep an

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Speaker 2: It can hit us up on the tweetsheet of One

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Speaker 2: Bills Live. We're back to take your phone calls and

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Speaker 2: we'll finish going around the NFL when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Who is the one Bills player you're watching

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Speaker 2: during this year's Bill's training camp? Training camp schedules out

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Speaker 2: first practice July twenty fourth, return of the Blue and Red,

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Speaker 2: August second back here at high Mark Stadium, and camp

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Speaker 2: wraps up August eighth before the preseason slate begins. You

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Speaker 2: can check the full schedule out at Buffalo Bills dot com.

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Speaker 2: But with the schedule now out for training camp, who's

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Speaker 2: the Bills player you're watching during this year's summer run

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Speaker 2: of sessions at Saint John Fisher can let us know

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Speaker 2: at eighth three h five point fifty won eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty Those are the numbers to

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Speaker 2: get on board. Got to wrap up around the NFL here,

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Speaker 2: which incidentally is brought to you by Kalaida Healthy Official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system. In the Buffalo Bills Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah

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Speaker 2: bugs Steve arrested for the second time in a month

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Speaker 2: after he was booked on a domestic violence and burglary

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Speaker 2: charge in Alabama Sunday morning. Released, according to online records.

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Speaker 2: That guy's already in hot water once earlier this month.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that he's going to be long for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs roster. Chiefs have a bunch of problems here

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Speaker 2: this offseason. My gosh, she Rice.

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Speaker 4: And others right, well, the Chiefs have had a number

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Speaker 4: of incidents like this in off seasons and even in

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Speaker 4: during seas. It's it's a long No team is immune

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Speaker 4: from it, no question about it. But the Chiefs do

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Speaker 4: seem to well. And when you're the world champions, you

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Speaker 4: get a little bit more scrutiny even further down your

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Speaker 4: roster like this.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Bugs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from the if history tells us anything is don't

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Speaker 4: automatically think the guy's going to be out the door

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Speaker 4: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They tend to get given as they team to have.

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Speaker 1: They tend to have pretty thick skin there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bengals wide receiver Te Higgins, in case you missed it

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, officially in the fold for the upcoming season,

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Speaker 2: he signed his franchise tag Saturday, just a couple of

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Speaker 2: days after their mandatory mini camp. By signing the tag,

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Speaker 2: the fifty year wide receivers now expected to be at

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Speaker 2: Bengals training camp, and then the Detroit Lions signing the

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Speaker 2: big footed UFL kicker Jake Bates to a two year

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Speaker 2: contract over the weekend. Bates, who's just twenty four years

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Speaker 2: old and a converted soccer player, didn't start kicking footballs

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Speaker 2: until his senior year in high school. Second in the

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Speaker 2: UFL this season with seventeen field goals for the Michigan Panthers.

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Speaker 2: It included a sixty four yard game winner back in

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Speaker 2: the season opener against Saint Louis. It's just two yard

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Speaker 2: shy of Justin Tucker's NFL record of sixty six. So

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Speaker 2: the Lions are bringing him in. Let's go kicked right

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Speaker 2: under their nose for the Michigan Panthers. So that's good

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Speaker 2: for him for parlaying that into a much bigger operation.

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Speaker 4: I've had a lot during some of the offseason conversations

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Speaker 4: I've had with just people I know and fans and

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Speaker 4: all that kicking has been an issue. The kick in

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Speaker 4: the Kansas City game, it was haunted a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: including I think Tyler Bass still thinks about it, you know,

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Speaker 4: And that's one of the positions that realistically and logistically

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Speaker 4: in reality, it's easy to substitute. The guy doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to learn play, just kick it, you know, so you

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Speaker 4: can change those guys out. We've seen teams do it

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Speaker 4: in the past, even midseason. They've always got a list

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Speaker 4: of a handful of guys that they'll call that are

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Speaker 4: kickers that are like telling you know, hey, I'm in shape,

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go, I'm ready

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Speaker 4: to go, and you know, all it takes is for

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Speaker 4: gym to go. You miss one kick and the guy

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Speaker 4: gets mad at you. It's like you're out.

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Speaker 2: Bill's do have an undrafted rookie kicker on the roster,

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Speaker 2: Jack Browning from San Diego State. He plays, kicked, he

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Speaker 2: kicked off, and he punted, so he is gonna be

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Speaker 2: in camp probably pushing Tyler Bass along.

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Speaker 4: So they did not do that last year when Tyler

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Speaker 4: Bass signed the extension. He's all by himself in training

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Speaker 4: camp and did it and wasn't his best year by

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Speaker 4: all accounts. So I'm that's one of the things that

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Speaker 4: also kickers know about. I mean, whether you're and you

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Speaker 4: just know you're expendable, you know what i mean. It's

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Speaker 4: one of those things where you just get the big

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Speaker 4: raspberry and you're done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a little bit different than other positions

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Speaker 2: because there's only one of you. Yeah, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not like there's three running backs on the roster or

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Speaker 2: six receivers on the roster. There's one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You don't want to hit us.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to hit a sad it's you or

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Speaker 2: it's somebody else, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And you don't want to hit a slump yeah, because

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Speaker 4: you know you have you never know how long a.

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Speaker 2: Leash you have, and you don't want to test it, right,

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Speaker 2: So uh, yeah, you know, good for uh Jake Bates

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Speaker 2: parlaying his UFL season into an NFL contract of two

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Speaker 2: years with the NFC North champion Detroit Lions, So we'll

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Speaker 2: see how his season unfolds with the Lions going forward.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to the phones. At eight h three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: fifty Who is the one Bills player you're watching during

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Speaker 2: this year's training camp training camp schedules out check it

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Speaker 2: out at Buffalo Bills dot com. While we go to

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Speaker 2: the phones here and to Tom on the west side,

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Speaker 2: what's up Tom?

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Speaker 8: I might give you guys a couple of Steve Okay.

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Speaker 8: But my heart pitter patters for k C Okay all

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Speaker 8: their players. They just keep getting into trouble and making

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Speaker 8: the news. Now, I don't know, it's the media coverage.

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Speaker 8: It's not politics, you know what I mean. We're talking

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Speaker 8: football here, So anyway to answer your question, I'm going

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Speaker 8: to circle the wagons because I'm going to start with Andreson,

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Speaker 8: the linebacker from UB. He's a local kid, yep. Because

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Speaker 8: of the position. I'm interested in seeing what he can do.

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Speaker 8: But now I'm going to come over to the offense

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Speaker 8: and I want to see what Frank Gordon Junior can do,

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Speaker 8: to see if he can add anything to the offense.

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Speaker 8: On the offense, I'm most interested in Curtis Samuel because

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Speaker 8: I want to see if he can connect with Jack

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Speaker 8: and even Hollins, you know the one and two. We

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Speaker 8: got to find that one and two. But on defense,

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Speaker 8: it's Matt Mullane because he had that weird regament injury

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Speaker 8: you guys talked about that is not normal and we're

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Speaker 8: wondering if he's going to be able to come back

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Speaker 8: from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair question to ask, and it makes

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Speaker 2: sense to want to keep an eye on that it's like,

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Speaker 2: are you going to have your all pro or you're not.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a pretty big if, right, So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we got some encouraging signs at the start of mandatory

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Speaker 2: mini camp when he was participating on a limited basis,

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Speaker 2: but even coach McDermott kind of intimated that he's not

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Speaker 2: out of the woods yet and based on how much

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Speaker 2: progress he makes between now and the start of training

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Speaker 2: camp will determine just how much he does in the

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Speaker 2: training camp setting. And he even raised the possibility that

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Speaker 2: Milano may not even be able to go back to

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Speaker 2: back days of practicing right because of how there's because

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Speaker 2: of the hurdles that Milana still has to clear coming

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Speaker 2: off that injury, right. And then as far as other players,

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Speaker 2: he Tom likes the undrafted kids. He likes, he likes

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Speaker 2: the long shots.

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Speaker 4: And it's true too, because you always feel like you're

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Speaker 4: even more of an expert if you think a guy

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Speaker 4: nobody knows about, saying now I'm telling you this, I

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Speaker 4: like this guy from the start, right exactly. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: everybody comes back with Tom on the west side hit

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Speaker 4: all the high spots, though, I mean, he's hard to

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Speaker 4: be wrong when you mentioned Andres and Gor Junior, Curtis Samuel,

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Speaker 4: the one and two wide receiver, Matt Mulano. So Curtis,

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Speaker 4: I hear you, Tom, but yeah, it's hard to be

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Speaker 4: wrong on every single one of those. So somewhere along

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Speaker 4: the line you gotta get one right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Curtis Samuel, you know, not for nothing, was the

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Speaker 2: biggest investment that the team made it receiver in terms

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Speaker 2: of dollars and cents, So I think a lot will

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Speaker 2: be expected of him.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things. There's a lot of guys

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Speaker 4: that because there's been such a turnover, people are kind

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Speaker 4: of like going, oh, man, gosh, all these But you

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Speaker 4: know what, you got Mike Edwards from the Champions. You

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Speaker 4: got Curtis Samuel, who's been playing with Billy Bagg of

834
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Speaker 4: Donuts and Charlie Sixpack at quarterback, and he's been putting

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Speaker 4: up numbers with those guys. Mac Hollins comes in as

836
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Speaker 4: a big time wide receiver. You've got you drafted a

837
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Speaker 4: first round draft pick, and Keon Coleman. You got Casey

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Speaker 4: two Hill from the Commanders as pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these.

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Speaker 4: Guys have a pedigree that is pretty respectable at least

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Speaker 4: respectable in the National Football League and around the and

842
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Speaker 4: around football. So to think that all of those guys

843
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Speaker 4: are just guys. Some of them may be, but there's

844
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Speaker 4: a lot of reason for each one of them to

845
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Speaker 4: think like this may be the moment where they finally

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Speaker 4: are on a team that can help them, or a

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Speaker 4: team that compliments them, or with a quarterback that can

848
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Speaker 4: help them. And for the guys that are draft picks,

849
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Speaker 4: like you know, Van Prant, Granger and Keon Coleman and

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Speaker 4: you know all those guys, there's a lot of reason

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Speaker 4: to be optimistic. And you don't have to hit on

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Speaker 4: every one of those guys. You hit on just two

853
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: or three of all these new guys, I mean, you're

854
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Speaker 4: right back in the saddle. If you hit on more

855
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Speaker 4: than that, not only there, you're gonna get there quick

856
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Speaker 4: if it's more than that, because you got you've got

857
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Speaker 4: a room full of receivers, all of whom are gonna

858
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Speaker 4: be busting a gut to make it on this team

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Speaker 4: and be successful and use every single opportunity throughout all

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Speaker 4: the way into January February, all of those games, they're

861
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Speaker 4: gonna be busting a gut to get there and it's

862
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Speaker 4: just a great atmosphere. I mean to sit here and

863
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Speaker 4: watch these guys, you know, take flight, because I think

864
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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a ton of guys that the Bills

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Speaker 4: have signed in this free agent period and now of

866
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Speaker 4: course in the draft class that are really going to

867
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Speaker 4: pan out and play extremely well, because it's almost impossible

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Speaker 4: to think that they won't all of them. You never

869
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: hit on everybody, No, but man oh man, this GM

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Speaker 4: and this Pro Pro Personnel Personnel group and the college

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Speaker 4: scouting they hit on. They hit five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Close to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's a big number.

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Speaker 2: It is a big number. It's certainly above the league average.

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Speaker 2: We got to take a break here because we're up

876
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Speaker 2: against the break. But when we come back, more of

877
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: your phone calls will lead off with Richard and Newfane,

878
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: but have open lines for you at eight h three

879
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: oh five fifty with training camp schedule, now out who's

880
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: the one Bills player you're watching at this year's training camp?

881
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: You let us know next here on One Bill's Live,

882
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

883
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live, where we're asking

884
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: you today who's the one Bills player you're watching during

885
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: this year's training camp. Training camp schedule came out today.

886
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: Check it out at Buffalo bills dot com to get

887
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: the full schedule in the slate and how you can

888
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: enter the ticket lottery for tickets to a practice. But

889
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 2: in the meantime, we go to the phones and lead

890
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: off his promise with Richard and new Faint. What's up, Richard,

891
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: what do you got for us afternoon?

892
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: Guys? Well, I'm off. I'm obviously interested in all our

893
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: youngsters coming in because they're just always fun to watch.

894
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: But my biggest guy I'm going to be paying attention

895
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 5: to is Connor McGovern's transitioned at center.

896
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Good one.

897
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: I just think he's going to be a bigger, stronger,

898
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: and more powerful center than Mitch was.

899
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: Now.

900
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 5: I know when when Morse would pull, he was extremely

901
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 5: effective out in space, but I just think the stronger

902
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 5: kid at center is going to improve our running game

903
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 5: and our past block and two. So I'll hang up

904
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: and get your take on that bask game, guys.

905
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: I like that pick, Richard, and yeah, all early have

906
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: been encouraging. Granted still not playing real football pads are

907
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: not on yet and won't be for about six practices

908
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: of training camp either and preseason games will probably be

909
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: the definitive proof as to whether he can take over.

910
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: But all reviews of him by coach McDermott and the

911
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: offensive staff have been pretty positive.

912
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: How that change affects the total offense, it may be

913
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: we may be only only only we may be able

914
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: only to ascertain that at the end of the season

915
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: when you start looking at numbers, maybe they don't run

916
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: wide where they got the center pulling up.

917
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Maybe they go straight ahead more.

918
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: Maybe they run different types of running games, and you

919
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: won't and maybe only analytics will ever tell you that

920
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 4: Josh is already one of the lead is the least

921
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: quarterback who's sacked in the league every year, just for

922
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: obvious reasons. You can't grab the guy, you can't just

923
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: pull him down. He shakes big dudes off, He outruns

924
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: big dudes and little dudes. He's just hard to tackle.

925
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: So I think the only way you're gonna see a

926
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: difference or ascertain a difference is by looking at analytics

927
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Say when when Mitch

928
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: was here and he had McGovern at left guard, they

929
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: ran this type of running play at the end of

930
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: the year, we see now with McGovern at center and

931
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: whoever is going to be left guard, they ran this

932
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: type of running play. You know, it's gonna be hard

933
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: to tell. Now Josh comes out and pulls off an

934
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: MVP season, McGovern's gonna get some credit, right, just like

935
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: all those guys they all, you know, a rising tide

936
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: raises all the ships. But I think it's gonna be

937
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: it's hard for just regular fans, even guys like me

938
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: who played, to understand everything that goes into that position

939
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: and to see it on a game to game basis.

940
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: So while I think Connor McGovern maybe maybe you know,

941
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: he may be headed to All pro status as a center,

942
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: who knows even so, he's he's stepping into an offense

943
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: run by a unicorn at quarterback who overcomes a lot

944
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 4: of deficiencies around him and who does things nobody else does.

945
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: It's going to be really hard for Connor McGovern to

946
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: make a difference that we will see now, the guys

947
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: in the room, they'll feel it, Josh will appreciate it,

948
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: and there'll be other you know, there'll be aspects of

949
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: the game where he will make a big difference, and

950
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: we won't be able to see because they're all so

951
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: hidden down in there, and everything they do.

952
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: Is all coded.

953
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: You know, we don't know what he's talking to, both

954
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: guards and the tackles and what they're supposed to be

955
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: doing and as opposed to what they did do. All

956
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: that's it's really esoteric. It's really secretive, and it's wrapped

957
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: in mystery and coded language. What you can listen to

958
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: is when Josh goes to the podium and what he

959
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: says about those guys and what he says about him

960
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: in private. That's really the way that you're going to

961
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: find out. I think Connor McGovern's ability and what he

962
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: said was about playing center this year was really I

963
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: raised everybody's eyebrows because we all had questions. Yeah, he

964
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: answered them all in one interview on the media. He

965
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: answered all the questions. It was cool to see and

966
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: I think all of us were caught by it.

967
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to John in Detroit next. What's up John?

968
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 9: Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. One quick as

969
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 9: side on the Edmonton temperature. Back in the eighty four,

970
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 9: I was covering the Red Wings for Detroit and I

971
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 9: spent Christmas Day in Milwaukee with in laws because the

972
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 9: NHL's got a good contract, they don't have to play

973
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 9: on Christmas Day. But I left. I played golf on

974
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 9: sixty five degree weather in Milwaukee, and then the next

975
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 9: day I flew out to Edmonton and then when I

976
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 9: landed it was minus forty literally one and five degrees different.

977
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Not right.

978
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, But the player I really want to watch, and

979
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 9: it's because I have a a feeling for all players

980
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 9: nearing the end of their careers and I really want

981
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 9: to see von Miller and hoping that, you know, he

982
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 9: can go out in a way that some others. I

983
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 9: mean here in Detroit. You know, Miguel Cabrera's last season

984
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 9: was kind of pitiful to watch, and you know, stars,

985
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 9: superstars like that. I hope Vaughn really makes a big

986
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 9: addition to this defense and this team this year. I'd

987
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 9: love to see that. And that's what I'll be watching for.

988
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean that's comment on that. Yeah, that's

989
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: a good one, John. I mean I would certainly, I

990
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: would say everybody's kind of hoping for that. We're all

991
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: in the same boat, I would think, and you know,

992
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: looking more like the old Vaughn would be like an

993
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: eight to ten SAX season. And I just have a

994
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: hunch on this. I have no evidence of this, but

995
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: my hunch is in an effort to get that out

996
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: of him, I think they make him almost exclusively a

997
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: pass rush specialist, where he's playing thirty snaps a game

998
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: and only in obvious passing situations. They got plenty of

999
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: guys on this roster to set the edge and the

1000
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: run front and play on rundowns and stuff like that.

1001
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Just let this guy cook on pass rushing downs and

1002
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: see if you can get the von Miller of old

1003
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe he puts up an eight to

1004
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: ten SAX season.

1005
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too, Vaughn's no spring chicken for sure.

1006
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: And he's also you know, he's thirty five. He's pretty

1007
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 4: smart too. When he came to Buffalo, he knew I mean,

1008
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: he was deep into his career and Buffalo has this

1009
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: philosophy of rotating guys. And I think for the first

1010
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: time in his career, not that he didn't that he

1011
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: got it, but that he needs it is for other

1012
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: guys to take more reps from him so he can

1013
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: be fresh on the reps he gets in. They don't

1014
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: expect him to take fifty reps a game. But if

1015
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: he can take twenty five and they can be on

1016
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: passing downs and he can get a sack every you know,

1017
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: twenty snaps, that'd be an awesome season for him. They're

1018
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: gonna have to monitor his reps at his age, and

1019
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: I think will help him do that. And if you

1020
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: can just get him at one hundred percent von Miller

1021
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: for fewer snaps, that's that's what you're looking for. I

1022
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: thought last year. Now, I'm sure he didn't feel it

1023
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I'm sure he wasn't feeling like he

1024
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: was twenty five, but he looked good at the end

1025
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: of that season. He didn't ever get a he never

1026
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: got a stat. We all know that, but that guy,

1027
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: to me looked like he belonged out there even so,

1028
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: and I think this year it's gonna be a different

1029
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: story from start to finish. Obviously, he's gonna be two

1030
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: years removed, or almost two years.

1031
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: And.

1032
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: He's gonna have the ability to manage his workload like

1033
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: he's never had before, particularly with Sean McDermott's defense and

1034
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: Bob Babbage's guidance. And think I just think he's in

1035
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: a perfect spot to get whatever we got out of him,

1036
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: whatever he's got out of him.

1037
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Our number one in the books, but still taking your

1038
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: phone calls in our number two. I got a step

1039
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: aside for a break here, but JOCKI in South Buffalo.

1040
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: Jim and Lockport will lead us off in hour number two.

1041
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: Here on a Monday on One Bill's Live, presented by

1042
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: call Out of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1043
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

1044
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to the second hour of the show

1045
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Here on a Monday. Chris Brown, Steve

1046
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Tasker with you and talking about Bill's training camp schedule

1047
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: just came out today. You can check all the details

1048
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: out at Buffalo bills dot com. But we're asking you

1049
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: who's the one Bill's player you're watching during this year's

1050
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: training camp. Who is at the top of your list.

1051
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: We know you probably have multiple players you're interested in

1052
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: taking a look at, But who's Numero uno You let

1053
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: us know. At eight h three h five fifty one

1054
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Back to

1055
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: the phones, we go into Chuck in South Buffalo. What's

1056
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: up Chuck?

1057
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Every Monday pictures taking my call, I said,

1058
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 7: a couple of callers take my take my thunder with me.

1059
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 7: I'm I'm watching Connor McGovern. You know, nobody, really, I

1060
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 7: shouldn't say nobody, but not a lot of people give

1061
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 7: up credit to the quarterback and center relationship.

1062
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 9: You know.

1063
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 7: You mean Cowie had Kent Hall for how many years?

1064
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 7: Peyton Manning had Jeff Saturday. I mean, it really is

1065
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 7: one of the most unique relationships in football, you know.

1066
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 7: I mean, you're pretty much involved with each other every

1067
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 7: single place, so having to be in lockstep with each

1068
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 7: other is just super important. I remember just being so

1069
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 7: upset when we passed on Creed Humphrey to select Boogie Dasham.

1070
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 7: You know, I thought Creed Humphrey could have been the

1071
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 7: center for this team for the next ten years. Paired

1072
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 7: him up with Josh. But I mean, I'm all for

1073
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 7: it if it's McGovern, you know, if Van Pram Granger,

1074
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 7: if I'm saying that right, he ends up kind of

1075
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 7: emerging out of all this. I mean, needing a bigger

1076
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 7: body up front was necessary, and I absolutely loved the

1077
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 7: veteran presence that Mitch Morse was, but you can see

1078
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 7: him get pushed around and I believe in the play

1079
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 7: that Allen threw short to Shakir in the playoff game,

1080
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 7: you know it was correct me if I'm wrong, I

1081
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 7: believe it was Chris Jones pushing up on Mitch.

1082
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 9: Morse or it's something to that effect.

1083
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 7: But you know, you see him get bossed around on

1084
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: the line a little bit, and I'm hoping for a

1085
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 7: little more beef up front between well Cyrus Torrence McGovern

1086
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 7: and then whoever they end up s thing at left guard,

1087
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 7: whether it's Edwards Lyle Collins, and nobody's talking about him

1088
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 7: at all really being a potential for that spot. You know,

1089
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 7: you have good options to fill in that line. So

1090
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 7: it's Gott McGovern for me, and thanks for taking my call.

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00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Jeck for making it. I mean, I'll

1092
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: just say I think that if there was one thing,

1093
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: if you want a nitpick on Mitch's time in Buffalo,

1094
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: his frame he's like about six six and I'm not,

1095
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: by no means was he spindily through the legs, but

1096
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: his frame he was always seemed a little top heavy

1097
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: to me, and so I think if a defensive lineman

1098
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: could get some leverage on him, he could get him

1099
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: moving in a direction he didn't want to pretty effectively,

1100
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: and it was hard for him to recover and then

1101
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: resustain his engagement on a block. I don't think it

1102
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: was a frequent deficiency, but it would pop up every

1103
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: so often. And look, Chris Jones does that to a

1104
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: lot of guys, not just Chrich Morse. He's the first

1105
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: team All Pro like perennially, he's a special player. But

1106
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 2: I do think with McGovern in there, if in fact

1107
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: that becomes the lockdown guard to guard lineup edwards McGovern Torrance,

1108
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at a lot more straight ahead

1109
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: bully ball because McGovern is thick throughout top to bottom.

1110
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: His frame is just a little bit different than that

1111
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: of Morse. Now. At the same time, McGovern's not gonna

1112
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: get out and pull either. I don't think that's in

1113
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: his repertoire. I could be wrong, we'll see, but I

1114
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: think with the success of the pin and pull schemes

1115
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: last year, with the tackles who are very athletic and

1116
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: Dawkins and Brown, I don't think you need a center

1117
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: that can get out and pull necessarily because you have

1118
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: tackles who could do it. So I think that affords

1119
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: them the luxury of saying, you know what, let's just

1120
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: put more beef in there and go straight ahead.

1121
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's certainly often. I said it a little in

1122
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: the last segment. Offensive line plays a little bit, you know,

1123
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 4: shrouded in mystery for a lot of people because it's

1124
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: it's the one position group where you talk about five

1125
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: different guys and you talk about them.

1126
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: As one O line. It's the old line. What's the

1127
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: O line gonna do? Are they good? Are they bad?

1128
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: Well, you don't ever take into consideration, well, your left

1129
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: guard's okay, and your right tackles okay, and the center

1130
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 4: and the right guard and the left tackle are really good.

1131
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: Nobody talks like that unless you get down, unless you're

1132
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 4: a coach who's watching film. It's either your offensive line

1133
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: is great or it's bad. That's the way we all

1134
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 4: talk about it, and that's the way most fans look

1135
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: at it. Certainly, a guy like Connor McGovern and Osiris

1136
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: torrents down insides gives you the idea that they're gonna

1137
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: be big down in there. Whoever steps in beside McGovern

1138
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 4: and left guard Dion's enormous Spencer Brown is enormous. It

1139
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: just looks like a foregone conclusion that they're gonna be

1140
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: like that. The two tackles, like Brownie said, do have

1141
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: and have exhibited the ability to get out in front

1142
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: of a running play. But they're gonna the offensive line

1143
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: and all those guys down in there are exactly like

1144
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 4: every other position group. They're gonna watch them during the

1145
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: preseason and these OTAs and the mini camps, preseason games,

1146
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: and they're gonna find out what they're good at, and

1147
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: when they do, you're gonna see a ton of it. Now,

1148
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: this Bill's offensive line last year was an anomaly. Not

1149
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: a single one of them missed a snap up until

1150
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh game when Dion took one series off because

1151
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: he had stitches in his fings. They stayed there out there,

1152
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: and it was them and nobody else unless they stuck out.

1153
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: Who was it the sixth offensive line, Yeah, David Edwards

1154
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 4: would come on for go a sixth offensive lineman. There

1155
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: was the same five guys one hundred percent of the

1156
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: snaps almost every single game. Statistically, You say that's not

1157
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: gonna happen this.

1158
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: Year, Well, yeah, the law of averages.

1159
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: But they're gonna find out what this offensive line is

1160
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: good at. And you can bet that's what you're gonna see.

1161
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: They've got a pass protect that's a given. But the

1162
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: kind a running play that you're talking about, like Brownie

1163
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: was alluding to, is gonna will become their running game

1164
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: and they will adapt to what those guys are good at.

1165
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: Cohler will do, I'm not Coler Chromer. Chromer will do that,

1166
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: and they'll they'll they'll say, yeah, these guys are going

1167
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: to be really good at this, and that's what it's

1168
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: going to look like. Really hard to say from this

1169
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: end of the season schedule before we seen them take

1170
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: a snap what this offensive line will be good at

1171
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: as opposed to last year's offensive line.

1172
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Who is the one Bills player you're watching during this

1173
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: year's training camp? Training camp schedule came out today. It's

1174
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: on the website of Buffalo Bills dot com. Check it out.

1175
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: We've got two gyms in Lockport here. We'll go to

1176
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: the one that's been holding longer. So Jim in Lockport

1177
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: number one. What do you got for us?

1178
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 10: I want kylaire Elam. I was excited when we drafted him.

1179
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 10: I just remember he was flying up here and they

1180
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 10: said he's already reviewing the playbook, and I really hope

1181
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 10: he breaks through and becomes the All Pro that he

1182
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 10: can become. My hope.

1183
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's going to have a new lease

1184
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: on his career, and I think he's hoping to finally

1185
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: get it off the ground. He's got a new cornerbacks coach,

1186
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: he's got a new defensive coordinator. So I think he's

1187
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 2: shown enough flashes where he's going to get a prime

1188
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: opportunity here in training camp to compete for his starting job.

1189
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: I think he directly benefited from the absence of Raseul

1190
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: Douglas through all of OTA's I mean, Rasul Douglas was

1191
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: here a mandatory minicamp last week. He was asked about

1192
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: why he missed OTA's He's like, I've always done that.

1193
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: I have to step away from the game in the

1194
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: spring so I can come back rejuvenated and refreshed. I've

1195
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: always done it that way. Well, Kyrie Elan was the

1196
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: direct beneficiary of that because he got all the starter

1197
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: snaps in Raeul Douglas's absence, right, and then in mandatory

1198
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: minicamp Christian Benford was out on an excused absence for

1199
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: a family matter. Elan was getting a lot of snaps again. Yeah,

1200
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: So he was a direct beneficiary of the absence of

1201
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Douglas in OTAs and Benford in mini camp. So he's

1202
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: going to come into training camp with a lot of

1203
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: extra reps under his belt, and that affords the coaching

1204
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: staff all the more looks at him in good, bad,

1205
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: or in different situations to know what he brings to

1206
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: the table.

1207
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 4: They've had a lot of chances to watch Elam and

1208
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: US fans we have not gotten that many opportunities because

1209
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 4: he hasn't played that much. But when he was on

1210
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 4: the field, you rode the roller coaster with him. That Pittsburgh.

1211
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: We show highlights every time we start talking about Kye

1212
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh game where he had a penalty and

1213
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 4: then another penalty on the next play and then the

1214
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: interception in the end zone. That's kind of the roller

1215
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: coaster we're looking at.

1216
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: But that was after he hadn't played for ten games.

1217
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: He had rested for a game in ten leagues because

1218
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: he was on IR.

1219
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: He came back played really well, and I think you

1220
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: can see where the coaching staff will be with Kaye.

1221
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: They'll say, listen, Kayir, give us, give us the roller

1222
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: coaster without the dips.

1223
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, smooth it out.

1224
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: Smooth it out, keep the keep the highs, and make

1225
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: the valleys a lot shallower. And where you're going to

1226
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: be a good player, a really good player athletically.

1227
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh, he's off the charts.

1228
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 4: I mean he's eas elite, he's gonna be He's got

1229
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 4: it all there. And now the fact that this is

1230
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: going to be his third fourth year, third year, third year,

1231
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: you got to think this is his moment and I

1232
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: think he's going to exploit it. We've been talking about

1233
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 4: him since they made the changes to the defensive staff

1234
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: as being a guy who will benefit from it.

1235
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: So I like where you're at, Jim.

1236
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: From Jim in lockport number one to Jim in lockport

1237
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: number two, What do you got first, Jim?

1238
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, this gong in regards to the defense here, because

1239
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 11: I'm gonna be watching the whole defense, especially Miller. But

1240
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 11: you have been the gravitch gonna basically take over the

1241
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 11: defense and mc dermott is gonna be just on the

1242
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 11: sidelines watching. I don't see that happening. So is this

1243
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 11: going to be a conflict with the defense or is

1244
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 11: mcgrabych is he just gonna you know, had the title

1245
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 11: It's just concerns me because it really hasn't been directed

1246
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 11: as what and how and who's going to run the offense.

1247
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm sorry the defense.

1248
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that decision, I think. Yeah, the decision hasn't been

1249
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: made yet, Jim, and I think the reason why is McDermott,

1250
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: as we know, doesn't make decisions quickly. He's very methodical.

1251
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: He's painstaking lee patient in weighing all the factors out

1252
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: in the decision before he makes one, especially one of

1253
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: this magnitude, which, as you've pointed out, is no small potatoes.

1254
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: So I think that the reason a decision hasn't been

1255
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: made is because he wants to let Babbage call some

1256
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: preseason games and see how it looks in a real

1257
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: or as close to a real game scenario is possible,

1258
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: and then he'll make his reviews and assessments from there

1259
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: to determine can this guy handle it? Or do I

1260
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: have to do it for another season?

1261
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1262
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 11: I agree with that. Yeah, and also too, But like

1263
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 11: I said, the main guy I'm gonna watch, I'm gonna

1264
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 11: watch the whole defense in itself, But the main guy

1265
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 11: is Miller. How they're gonna utilize them? Is he going

1266
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 11: to perform the way he should or is he going

1267
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 11: to kind of I'm not gonna say, Babe, that injury,

1268
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 11: but it's kind of like it looked like it last

1269
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 11: year when he was in there. So I just want

1270
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 11: to see how he performs.

1271
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's as will we all.

1272
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: And we spoke a little bit about Vaughan last segment

1273
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: about what we expect and what you know, what things

1274
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 4: are factors that are going into his ability or inability

1275
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: to contribute. I think the defensive You're right, there is

1276
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 4: a concern or at least a question as to how

1277
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 4: it's gonna go. Bob Babbitch is going to be the

1278
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator who's going to step in and probably install

1279
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 4: the defenses, lead the defensive team. Meeting McDermott will probably

1280
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: be is going to have a voice in the defensive room.

1281
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: You're silly if you don't, because McDermott is a really,

1282
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: really good defensive coordinator, and so Babbage will use him

1283
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 4: as a resource and their relationship will cause one or

1284
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 4: the both of them to flourish in this Now. McDermott famously,

1285
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: at times with Leslie Fraser as defensive coordinator, would take

1286
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: the play sheet away from him and start calling him himself,

1287
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: and at times it was perceived maybe that they had

1288
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: some tension in their relationship. I don't know that that

1289
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 4: was real, but there's no question Sean McDermott felt more

1290
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 4: comfortable with the play sheet in his hand in certain situations.

1291
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: Whether that continues with Bob Babbitch or not remains to

1292
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: be seen, and whether McDermott says, you know what, I

1293
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: liked doing it last year. I felt like it worked better.

1294
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it for a minute, and I'm gonna

1295
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: let you. I'll let you have this preseason, see how

1296
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 4: you do. And if it doesn't go swimmingly or if

1297
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: we you know, there's still questions who's gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: McDermott's good at it, so Bob Babbage has to be.

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Speaker 1: Good at it.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise they're doing a disservice to their players. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's not just a foregone conclusion that

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Speaker 4: Bob Babbage just gets it and you can sink or swim.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this. Leslie Fraser, who comes in

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Speaker 2: with as much play calling cachet as anybody when he's

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Speaker 2: hired by the Bills, would have stretches of games where

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Speaker 2: McDermott would take the play calling from him and call

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Speaker 2: three or four series. If he didn't like what he

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: was seeing on the field and felt they needed a

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Speaker 2: change up, he would say, I'm calling the next series.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call the next one. I'm gonna call the

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Speaker 2: next one.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: There were stretches a game, sometimes a quarter, a quarter

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Speaker 2: and a half where McDermot would take over the play

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Speaker 2: calling from Leslie Fraser, a thirty year coaching veteran in

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Speaker 2: the league. So, and I completely understand why the process

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Speaker 2: with determining whether Babbage is fit to call plays for

1318
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Speaker 2: this defense is going the way it's going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm and that's and it's not like Leslie Fraser

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Speaker 4: didn't he liked it. I mean, those guys have have

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Speaker 4: egos and concerns too. So Leslie Fraser said there and

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 4: he just got it all right, fine, Yes, he'd go

1323
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: to the other end of the benches, stand there and

1324
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 4: not happy. So there's you know, there's always that going on.

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Speaker 4: That's the dynamic of a coaching staff. And I'll say

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Speaker 4: this too. At time when Leslie Fraser was the coordinator,

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: there were a lot of times when you say they're

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Speaker 4: just not aggressive enough there.

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Speaker 2: They play pretty straight they.

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Speaker 1: Play straight up, and they just never nothing.

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Speaker 4: They never, nobody ever made a play the years when

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Speaker 4: they were at their best, when and like when they

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Speaker 4: went to the playoffs in seventeen their first year here.

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Speaker 4: They got there largely in the first half of the

1335
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 4: season when they were winning games. They had no business

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: winning because their defense was churning out turnovers like it

1337
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: was their job, which it is, but to make a point, they.

1338
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: Were churning it out.

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Speaker 4: That stopped after Josh's rookie year, and then they weren't

1340
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Speaker 4: as effective at getting turnovers like they were in twenty seventeen,

1341
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 4: and that continued, and so when McDermott took it over

1342
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: last year, we saw exactly what we thought we would see.

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01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 4: McDermott was way more aggressive in situational football than Leslie

1344
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 4: Fridge yeah Blitz, than Leslie Fraser had been, and they

1345
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 4: went way up in sacks and way up in turnovers

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: from where they had been even though they were a

1347
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 4: highly ranked team in the years prior. They were much

1348
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Speaker 4: more spectacular in last year, with McDermott calling him splash

1349
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: plays than they had been. So Bob Babbage's getting dropped

1350
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Speaker 4: into that six year five years of Leslie Fraser, a

1351
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 4: year Sean McDermott, and here comes Bob Babbage, and we've

1352
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 4: now you got a menu of stuff that you're looking

1353
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 4: at saying, Okay, the level is the level, here's your

1354
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 4: play calling floor. You got to get there. That's a

1355
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on Bob babbitte who's never done it.

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Speaker 4: So you're right from Lockport. It is a question we've

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: and that's the first question, one of the first questions

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott had to deal with when they made these changes.

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Speaker 4: Who's going to call those plays? Yep, And he doesn't

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Speaker 4: have any he doesn't. I don't think they know yet.

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Speaker 2: They have not decided that he wants convincing evidence that

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Speaker 2: that Babbage is fit to do it and do it

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Speaker 2: consistently and effectively.

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Speaker 4: That's not easy, no, because it's and I've said it before,

1365
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 4: it's art as much as it is science. It's not

1366
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: just analytics and games. It's an art form. And you know,

1367
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Speaker 4: we'll see if if Bob Babbage gets that and what

1368
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 4: he's like, because you know, the personality of the guy

1369
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: calling the plays comes out in these situations.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve on a sale next. What's up, Steve?

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Speaker 12: How you doing, Fellows? I'm a big fan. I have

1372
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 12: a little bit different question offensively. I was in the

1373
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 12: news today that I said that the forty nine ers

1374
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 12: don't want to bring him back. What do you think

1375
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 12: chances that Buffalo makes a play for someone like that

1376
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 12: and are they able to with the cap and stuff.

1377
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be pretty tough for there to do that, Steve,

1378
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: because Ayuk is the reason.

1379
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: Ayuk's having a problem in San Francisco's money. He ain't

1380
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 4: gonna play without getting big money, and the Bills are

1381
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 4: not gonna able to pay anybody big money.

1382
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: He wants thirty million a year. They just threw Stefan

1383
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: Diggs overboard, making twenty four and a half, and they're

1384
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: biting the bullet on that contract now. I can't see

1385
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: them taking on that kind of salary, not to mention

1386
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: the fact they only have seven and a half in

1387
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 2: cap space right now. And Brandon Bean has said before

1388
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: that he very often likes to go into the season

1389
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: with a little bit of a cushion so that in

1390
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: the event there's a rash of injuries they need to

1391
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: sign a player or trade for a player and take

1392
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: on more salary a la Rasul Douglas last year. They

1393
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: have enough space to accommodate themselves to do that, So

1394
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: you're essentially looking at two and a half million in

1395
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: cap space.

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: It's the hoops you have to jump through are so

1397
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 4: high to conjure a scenario or the bills could be

1398
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: in play would be because here's what would have to happen.

1399
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: You'd have to get Ayuk to say, I'll play for

1400
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 4: the money. I'm going to play for this year, for

1401
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 4: this option year if you make it a one year

1402
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 4: deal and I can get free agent next year, and

1403
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 4: then I'll come play for you Buffalo. And then Buffalo

1404
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 4: has got to come up with the cachet to trade

1405
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 4: for the forty nine ers for Brandon Ayuk?

1406
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: And what are you doing trading for a one year rental? Right,

1407
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:25,959
Speaker 2: you're not doing.

1408
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: That, That's right. That's how you get Ayuk here.

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 4: You give up You give up a one for a

1410
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: guy for one year, and you're not gonna do that.

1411
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy to talk unless the Niners say, well,

1412
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 4: we don't think even gonna come in and play for us,

1413
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 4: so we'll get something for him we'll take a fifth

1414
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 4: for him, and you got to get Ayuk to agree

1415
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 4: to play it for a one year deal.

1416
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he's doing and he's not gonna do it.

1417
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta get a lot of guys to say

1418
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 4: yes to things they've already said they will not say

1419
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: yes too.

1420
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Mark in Orchard Park.

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: What do you got for his? Mark?

1422
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: Hey, how are you good?

1423
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 9: Uh?

1424
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm just calling. I don't think we need an individual

1425
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: like you just talked about. I think Chase Claypool is

1426
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: going to be the guy. You know, he's twenty five.

1427
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: I believe, uh, you know, he's averaged about, uh, you know,

1428
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: fifty catches the year. You know, he started at the

1429
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 3: end of Ben Roethlisberger's career. I think Josh Allen can

1430
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: take total advantage of you know, his type of you know,

1431
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: physical style, the calmness, and I believe that, you know,

1432
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: he's going to be another you know, fifty sixty catches

1433
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 3: And these are the guys that you know the Bills

1434
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: are going after to bring in. I think we're going

1435
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 3: to have the best receiver group that we've seen in

1436
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: a long time.

1437
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 4: All Right, Mark, Thanks, I'll say this. Fifty catches ain't

1438
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 4: gonna do it.

1439
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: I ain't. That's not enough.

1440
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 4: Fifty catcher not gonna be enough for your number two

1441
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: guy or number one guy. If that's what you think

1442
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 4: he's gonna be, that's not enough. That bar is way

1443
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 4: higher than that, and I don't and Chase Claypool, quite frankly,

1444
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 4: we've been talking about him a lot. He's in a

1445
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 4: room full of guys who have every bit the opportunity

1446
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: that he does. He has not earned anything with the

1447
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. He's he's a flyer, certainly, He's got a

1448
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 4: lot of physical abilities.

1449
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of stuff that he can say.

1450
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's a number two draft, two second

1451
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 4: round draft pick in the National Football League. He's been

1452
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 4: on three teams already. The question is you got to

1453
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: ask why has he been on three different teams? And

1454
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 4: he's available now for the price the Bill's paid for

1455
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: him for a one year deal.

1456
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's there's.

1457
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 4: Some questions about Chase Claypool's desire to play every play

1458
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 4: and his ability to lay it on the line for

1459
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 4: a team, any team, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Miami, and he's got

1460
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 4: to answer for the problems that happened in those cities,

1461
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: even if they weren't his fault. But there's stuff on

1462
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 4: film that makes you question how bad he wants it.

1463
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 4: Not coming off the ball on plays, not blocking for

1464
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: run plays, totally being disengaged in apparently disengaged in the offense.

1465
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: What happened there is that gonna happen here? Is he

1466
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: gonna play hard enough in the preseason to make the

1467
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 4: team and then check out because he's already made the team.

1468
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 4: You know, all those questions got to be answered.

1469
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: Now. He may be aching.

1470
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: For the chance to prove everybody wrong. Good for him, hopefully,

1471
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: hopefully that's the case, But he does have to prove

1472
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: people wrong about what they think about him. That's that's

1473
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 4: his chore in treat in preseason, in meetings, when they

1474
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 4: talk to him, when they find out who he is

1475
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 4: and who the essence of Chase Claypool is. Is he

1476
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 4: a guy that is has a burning desire to play

1477
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: hard for this team through seventeen games plus playoffs?

1478
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: Is he that guy?

1479
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: He's got a reputation that he has to debunk. That's

1480
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: right in training camp and the preseason, plain and simple.

1481
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: And if he can't, you won't be here.

1482
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: It's a simple We said it when we first heard

1483
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,919
Speaker 4: they signed him. This training camp is not a physical

1484
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: challenge for him, it's a personality test.

1485
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we return more of

1486
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: your phone calls. Mary and Tonawanda will lead us off

1487
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 2: as we are asking you who is the one Bills

1488
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: player you have at the top of your list to

1489
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: watch during this year's training camp. Eight oh three oh

1490
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

1491
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board. We've got open

1492
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Speaker 2: lines for you. More of your phone calls next year.

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Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live presented by KLIDA Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Give us say that one Bill's player at

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Speaker 2: the top of your list you're planning on watching during

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Speaker 2: this year's training camp. Bill's training camp schedule released today.

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01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: You can check out all the dates, including the return

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Speaker 2: of the Blue and Red at high Mark Stadium at

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Speaker 2: Buffalo bills dot com, including a chance to click on

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Speaker 2: a link and get into the ticket lottery to get

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Speaker 2: a ticket to practice out at Saint John Fisher late July.

1502
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: But back to the phones we go and to Mary

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: in Tonawanda, what do you got First, Mary.

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 13: Hi, guys, I just have a question or comment about

1505
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 13: DeMar Hamlin. That's the person I want to watch just

1506
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 13: after cardiac rehab to see if he'll be utilized more

1507
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 13: and that if he gets his spark from the pre

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 13: incident back.

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's in a competition quite frankly,

1510
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: that's what he's looking at. I mean it's basically Taylor

1511
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: Rapp who got re signed, as you know, and then

1512
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,879
Speaker 2: beyond him it's new faces Cole Bishop and Mike Edwards,

1513
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: the veteran free agent who came over from Kansas City.

1514
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: So that is the chief four man competition at the

1515
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: two safety positions. Cam Lewis is a part of it

1516
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: as well, but knowing that he also factors in it,

1517
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: Michael Corner, it's more likely that he kind of plays

1518
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: more of a utility role, So I don't know how

1519
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: much more he would factor into that competition. But Hamlin,

1520
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: that's that's who he's up against, essentially.

1521
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: And Tomorrow has always been a guy who's He's one

1522
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 4: of those players that's very physical. He likes to tackle,

1523
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 4: he likes to mix it up, he likes to get

1524
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 4: in the box, he likes to be up there in

1525
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 4: the tackling zone and he's and he feels good at it.

1526
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 4: But he's also one of those guys that's not physically gift.

1527
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 4: He's not a heavy dude. We've all seen him. He's

1528
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 4: he's a slender dude. Built long, Yeah, he's long. So

1529
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 4: it worked his own athletics, his own bill. Physical bill

1530
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: works against his style of play. And plus forget, don't

1531
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 4: forget the year. You know he came in and got

1532
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 4: hurt against Cincinnati, he was like he was the third

1533
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 4: guy to go in.

1534
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: He was like the third starter.

1535
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: Michael Hyde was out for the year.

1536
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 4: Hyde goes out, and then it was, uh, cam Lewis,

1537
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 4: who was in correct?

1538
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: Is that I'm missing it? Who was the guy? Well, no,

1539
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't who was the second safety? Earth?

1540
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: Well you had Hoyer? No, he missed five games that year.

1541
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, my point is, Damar, there was a couple

1542
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: of guys that went in before DeMar was able to start,

1543
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: and so that's he's had to develop his game, even

1544
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 4: from the point where he was healthy before his injury,

1545
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: to get on the field more regularly. So he's in

1546
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 4: competition with himself to develop himself into a better player.

1547
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 4: And now He's also in competition with other players who

1548
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 4: are getting in this case a lot of their first

1549
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: shots at making the Buffalo Bills. He'll have an he'll

1550
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 4: have a leg up in the defense and his experience

1551
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 4: in this system. So you look at Cole Bishop, Damar's

1552
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: light years ahead of him and experiencing snaps in this bit,

1553
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 4: in this defense. But for other guys like Mike Edwards,

1554
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 4: you know there's a guy with some chops of his

1555
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 4: own in the NFL. So Damar's in a competitions. He's

1556
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 4: throw him into the pool of guys and they're gonna

1557
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 4: pull out the best guy. But that's what Damar is

1558
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: up against. He's got to develop himself into a better player,

1559
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 4: even from the old Bills team. Although you know with

1560
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: Poyer and Hide, there is kind of a roadblide, there's

1561
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: a low ceiling. You know you're not going to go

1562
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 4: very far. But that's where he's at in a competition, certainly.

1563
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of love and respecting for

1564
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 4: tomorrow around the locker room, in and the coaching staff

1565
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 4: and in the players. So he's going to get every

1566
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt, for sure.

1567
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: Let's check out some of the comments you've submitted to

1568
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: this point on the tweet sheet, which is brought to

1569
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1570
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: in the Buffalo Bills player. You're watching a training camp,

1571
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: Andrews says, dalton kin kid. I want to see how

1572
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: far he's progressed since last season. I mean, that guy

1573
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: looked pretty ready from the jump last year. Set a

1574
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: team record for receptions by a tight end in a

1575
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: season with seventy three, finished eighth in the league in

1576
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: tight end receptions, behind some pretty big names. And it

1577
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if he's your number one player in

1578
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 2: targets this coming season. And the other reason I say

1579
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: that is because he and Shakira are the two guys

1580
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: with the most on field chemistry. I mean, you put

1581
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: knocks in that mix, too, but most on field chemistry

1582
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: with Josh. Everybody else in the receiving corps is new essentially,

1583
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: so there's that working for him. And then the only

1584
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: guy that had more targets than him on the roster

1585
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: isn't here anymore, Stefan Dicks. He was second on the

1586
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: team in targets last year as a.

1587
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: Rookie, and he got off to a really slow start. Remember, Yeah,

1588
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't.

1589
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: He didn't really kick it in gear until like week seven.

1590
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1591
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 4: He took like a month and a half off before

1592
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 4: he actually got on the field and started contributing regularly.

1593
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm kind of with you on that.

1594
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 4: Kincaid has got a chance to really use something special

1595
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 4: and put together a very nice season as a tight

1596
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 4: end for the Bills in this offense, in this spot,

1597
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 4: at this moment in history of where the offense is

1598
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 4: and the personnel changes. I mean, I think he might

1599
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 4: be Certainly some of it was none of his own doing,

1600
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 4: but man, oh man, he's on the he looks like

1601
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 4: he's on the precipice of being, you know, having a

1602
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 4: really good year, really good year.

1603
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: Dan on the tweets sheet says, Tyler Bass kicking is kicking.

1604
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Either you have it or you don't. So Dan's still

1605
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,879
Speaker 2: smarting from that missing the playoffs.

1606
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, Dan, we've seen Tyler Bass. He's

1607
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 4: got it, and a lot of people believe he lost it.

1608
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: Did he lose it for good? Or is he can

1609
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 4: he get it back?

1610
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's I'd be inclined to think he

1611
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: can get it back. Because absolutely far outweigh the bad.

1612
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely, he can get it back. We've seen that from

1613
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 4: every player at every position throughout not every player, but

1614
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 4: every position throughout history has had guys who have lost

1615
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 4: it and gotten it back. So Tyler Bass is not

1616
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 4: going to be you know, and I'm not saying he

1617
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 4: even lost it last year. We had conversations about what

1618
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 4: Tyler Bass was going through all season last year. I

1619
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 4: mean they're changing people around him. His holder, the kicker,

1620
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 4: then the punter who's an integral part of what he does,

1621
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 4: has got a you know, it's got a factor into that.

1622
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 4: We'll see, but yes, I would agree. Yeah, Tyler, for

1623
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 4: a lot of Bill Fans, has something to prove this year.

1624
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't be surprised if he has maybe his

1625
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: best season in a Bill's uniform this year because I

1626
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 2: think it. I think how last year ended sticks with

1627
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: him too, and I think he's using that as fuel

1628
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: right now for this coming season.

1629
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: I agree wholeheartedly.

1630
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 4: I've spoken with him, and yeah, I think he's he's

1631
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 4: going to dial it in. I'm fully confident of that.

1632
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: Tiffany on the tweets, she says, I'm hopeful to see

1633
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: von Miller return to the disruptive force he was prior

1634
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: to injuring his knee. His ability to pressure opposing quarterbacks

1635
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 2: was greatly missed, especially against the Chiefs in the playoffs. Yeah,

1636
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 2: and you know, the fact that Leonard Floyd wasn't one

1637
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: hundred percent didn't help. You know, Terrell Bernard didn't play

1638
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: in the game, he was out injured, Rasuell Douglas playing

1639
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: on one leg after getting injured in the Miami game

1640
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: two weeks prior.

1641
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: The other linebacker spot was rotation.

1642
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Tyrrell Dobson wasn't one hundred percent, So it was just

1643
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: a bad litany of injuries at the worst possible time. Yeah,

1644
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: that contributed as well. Connor says Cole Bishop. I want

1645
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: to see if he can grab a starting job from

1646
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 2: either Wrapp or Edwards. I honestly really liked the idea

1647
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: of having Bishop and rapped together on the back end,

1648
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: and this should not go by the board either. Mike

1649
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: Edwards had a shoulder injury, missed about four weeks of

1650
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 2: spring practices. That afforded DeMar Hamlin and Cole Bishop a

1651
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: whole lot more reps than they probably would have gotten

1652
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: had Mike Edwards been healthy.

1653
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Mike Edwards, being a new player on the team,

1654
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 4: would probably get a lot of extra reps just for

1655
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: the mental part of it. So yeah, that's even in

1656
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 4: the off season. Injuries play a role in who gets

1657
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 4: snapped and who gets experienced.

1658
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: JJ on the tweets, she says ky r elim he

1659
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: has shown adaptation to the McDermott system to live up

1660
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: to his potential. Second, Jack Browning, can he do enough

1661
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: to replace Sam Martin? Yeah, he's a punter first, but

1662
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: he's done place kicking and kickoffs, but he's chiefly here

1663
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: as Sam Martin's competition. And we know Martin unfortunately had

1664
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: his share of ups and downs. I mean, he was

1665
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Special Teams Player of the Month in December, but in

1666
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: November it got a little rocky for him. But in

1667
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: December he was great. And then he pulls his hamstring

1668
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: chasing after a blocked kick in the Pittsburgh game. And

1669
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, credit to him for dragging himself out there

1670
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. But hard to punt effectively with a

1671
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: pulled hamstring on your non kicking leg because it's your

1672
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: plant leg, all your weights on that leg.

1673
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be.

1674
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 4: It's interesting. Those the old adage is the more you

1675
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 4: can do, Jack Browning have been a jack of all trades.

1676
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 4: So if you do get somebody snapping a hamstring or

1677
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 4: pull you know whatever, Tyler Bass tweaking his knee chasing down,

1678
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: and you know you got Jack brown and who can

1679
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 4: hit extra points? And who can you know do that?

1680
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: Hit a field goal now and again from close. But

1681
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 4: that's the more you can do, the more val you are.

1682
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 4: I mean I experienced that in my career. Guys around

1683
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 4: the league do that. The more things you can do

1684
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 4: effectively make you more valuable. So a guy like Jack

1685
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 4: Browning is intriguing, There's no question about it.

1686
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: Jack. On the tweet, she says, Kay Jay Hamler, his

1687
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: career has been sidetracked by injury and illness, but the

1688
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: dude can flat out fly. He was electric at Penn,

1689
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: stayed with the ball in his hands, and was a

1690
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: high pick. Yes, he was a second round draft choice.

1691
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: If he can recapture any of that, he could be

1692
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: a sneaky good weapon for this offense and as kick returner.

1693
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: Eager to see him in the wide receiver battle. Yeah,

1694
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: and he's not alone Jack. As Steve already mentioned, I

1695
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 2: think chakese Claypool falls into this category. I think it

1696
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: might be a little too strong to call these guys

1697
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: reclamation projects, but they are players of high ability. Both

1698
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: were second round draft choices when they came out of college,

1699
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: and both have had their share of struggles early in

1700
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: their career for various reasons. And the Bills are taking

1701
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: a swing that one of them will hit. I don't

1702
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: think all of them are going to hit, but if

1703
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: you just get one to hit, now your receiving corps

1704
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: is that much deeper.

1705
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: That's right.

1706
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: And you know, kJ Hammler's along the lines of an

1707
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: Isaiah McKenzie and the Deontay Hardy guys that you know

1708
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 4: of that skill smaller guys who can really fly, who

1709
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 4: have a skill set like they can return kicks and

1710
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. The kickoff play and what people

1711
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: are gonna do. We've heard all kinds of wild speculation

1712
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 4: about how that return guy's going to change, and what

1713
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 4: his responsibilities will look like, what the play is going

1714
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 4: to look like, what type of guy you want back there.

1715
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 4: I think that's still all up in the air. Maybe

1716
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 4: it'll be guys like Isaiah McKenzie and Deontay Hardy, or

1717
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 4: maybe it'll be somebody you know, you know, like a

1718
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 4: running back or a full back back there returning punts.

1719
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,839
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, We'll have to see.

1720
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: And you got the rookie Dae Juon Hardy, you know

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Speaker 2: who's that punt return experience too, So he'll be firmly

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Speaker 2: in the mix. And Andy Isabella is still on this roster.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget that. Correct got to take a break here.

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Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweetcheet when we were here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, some final thoughts here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Monday edition. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 2: you as you're telling us the number one player you're

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Speaker 2: going to have your eye on in training camp. Training

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Speaker 2: camp schedule came out today. Thought it would be appropriate

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Speaker 2: to kind of throw some names out there, Chris on

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet, says Keon Coleman is the obvious answer,

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Speaker 2: but for sure interested in what Shakiir is going to do.

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Speaker 2: But top of the list is everyone playing the safety position.

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Speaker 2: Got some big shoes to fill back there. How he

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Speaker 2: had seven years of the best tanement football and never

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Speaker 2: won a ring will always amaze me. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be one of the more interesting position battles in camp.

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Speaker 2: I think receiver safety are probably the top two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there are others.

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Speaker 4: There's so much turnover and most of the players looking

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Speaker 4: to be to replace those who were here are brand

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Speaker 4: new to the team. There's no like you know, Tamar

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Speaker 4: Hamlin is the exception. Taylor Rapp is the exception. But

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Speaker 4: other than that, it's new people. Cole Bishop, Mike Edwards

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Speaker 4: and of course Keon Coleman and the to the bunch

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Speaker 4: at wide receiver. I mean, Khalil Shakie is the only

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Speaker 4: guy left standing from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: That's big. So yeah, and the.

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Speaker 4: Cornerback position as well, all those guys at the skill

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Speaker 4: positions on both sides of.

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Speaker 1: The ball, are you know.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really gonna be a battle and a

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Speaker 4: competition to see who helps Josh Allen win.

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Speaker 2: Kawala, says Curtis Samuel. I know people are expecting a

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Speaker 2: lot from Shakir, but I think Samuel has the best

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Speaker 2: potential to do more production with more opportunities. Shakiro gets

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Speaker 2: effective production with modest opportunities. So here's hoping Samuel can

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Speaker 2: become the best of himself with Josh. Seth says Claypool

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Speaker 2: is the obvious one for me. If that guy plays

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Speaker 2: his potential, we may have four guys near a thousand

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Speaker 2: yards him, Shakier, Samuel, and Kincaid. Bill's Banter says Milano

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Speaker 2: needs to show that he's comfortable moving around on the

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Speaker 2: field and around other players before the pads come back on.

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Speaker 2: Sulla says, what's up front is what matters. I watch

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Speaker 2: line play. Offensive line is the heartbeat of any team.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line must dominate. There are gonna be new names

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Speaker 2: on that defensive line, particularly in that second unit that

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Speaker 2: rotates in with a ton of defensive tackles and some

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Speaker 2: of the ends.

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Speaker 4: Along with Von Miller, and everybody's eyes are going to

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Speaker 4: be on Vaughn watching him, and I think more so

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Speaker 4: than anything, people just want to see Vaughn take the

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Speaker 4: quarterback down. All of us have high hopes for that night.

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Speaker 4: I think he's still got some really good football in him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow with another edition and we'll

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Speaker 2: have our guests from PFF. George McGinnis. When we see

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Speaker 2: you at one