WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 133: So Far From Where We Were

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<v Speaker 1>This week on a Happy Half Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a stretch of games coming up. I try

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<v Speaker 2>not to get too far ahead, but when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at this first half of the schedule, it t seems

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<v Speaker 2>like Chicago, Washington, the Giants, etc. I mean, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in there that's so overwhelming that you couldn't see this

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<v Speaker 2>team winning a handful of games before that bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown, cow Row, It's time for the Happy Half Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Southern Star, an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are your hosts, Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello friends, and happy Victory Thursday. I'm declaring it victory Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because the Carolina Panthers won a game last week.

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<v Speaker 2>They did not. I am declaring it victory Thursday because

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<v Speaker 2>last night our friends at Charlotte FC defeated the hated

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago Fires to four to three, earned four to three

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<v Speaker 2>to clinch a playoff spot for the second year in

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<v Speaker 2>a row. So congratulations to our friends at Charlotte f C.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost it was really four to two, and

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<v Speaker 3>they snuck a three in there right there in like

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<v Speaker 3>the last minute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's no fun if it's ever easy. But congratulates

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<v Speaker 2>it to our friends from FC. And that is how

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<v Speaker 2>we will begin this week's Happy half Hour, Happy about soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>happy about playoffs in the Carolinas, And welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Happy half Hour, presented by a Southern Star and official

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<v Speaker 2>bourbon partner of the Carolina Panthers. Celebrate the spirit of

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<v Speaker 2>the Carolinas with the playoffs and cool stuff and normal

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<v Speaker 2>football by the Carolina Panthers. How about that gang?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this, Maybe Charlotte f C is a good omen

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<v Speaker 3>for the Panthers this year, although you said they made

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs last year too, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Made the playoffs. Maybe not, but you know they beat

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago last night. Chicago's on deck this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and I think they also play our boss man

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<v Speaker 3>Greg pointed out to me last night they also play

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<v Speaker 3>Washington the same weekend the Panthers played the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe we'll go for a full sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll start by seeing what happens on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first things first, Let's see what happens this week

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<v Speaker 2>with the Carolina Panthers and the Chicago Bears. Yet another

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Dalton revenge game. Yeah, we're gonna get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those. We had Cincinnati last week not so good

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<v Speaker 2>but well not so bad either at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing about this week. It's been so

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<v Speaker 2>unusual walking the building. It's not like it doesn't feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they lost a game. It's like when

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<v Speaker 2>they came out of that Bengals game last week, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was feeling pretty good about life, just because there were

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<v Speaker 2>points and they were competitive, and they were down and

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<v Speaker 2>came back a little bit. So it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that progress that a lot of people have talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as weird as it sounds, people are

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<v Speaker 2>feeling pretty good about things.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not even so much like feeling good in

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<v Speaker 3>a moral victory sort of way, but feeling good in

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<v Speaker 3>a hey, we're right there sort of way. That Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>game showed them, you know, especially back to back with

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<v Speaker 3>the win against the Raiders. Even though the Bengals game

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<v Speaker 3>was a loss, there was a lot of Okay, we

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<v Speaker 3>did this part really really well, and we did this

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<v Speaker 3>part wrong, but that part's addressable, so let's fix that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we've got this all going together again and

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward. So a lot to work with from that

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals game, even though it was a loss. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think they were like a little mad too, to realize

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<v Speaker 3>that they could have won that game, no question. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sometimes being a little pissed off as the

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<v Speaker 3>best motivator, especially for a competitor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kept talking about very specific things, and that's that sign

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<v Speaker 2>of progress. Dave Canalis keeps talking about wanting to see

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<v Speaker 2>this team progress, wanting to see him take the next step.

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<v Speaker 2>They have taken it the last two weeks offensively, because

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<v Speaker 2>what we've learned is that this team has a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of an identity. We've learned that they can run.

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<v Speaker 2>We've learned that they do have a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with a guy out with injury. The entire group

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<v Speaker 2>stepped up and maintain that personality of being a physical

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<v Speaker 2>running team. And that's why getting shut down on the

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<v Speaker 2>first drive at fourth and goal at the one really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bothered those guys. I mean, Robert Hunt talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it haunting him for a long time. I can

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<v Speaker 2>picture Big Rob losing sleep at night, you know, days later,

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<v Speaker 2>over one yard they did not get because that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of who they want to be. They want to be

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<v Speaker 2>the team that goes for fourth and one and converts it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, with Andy Dalton at quarterback, they are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be a big quarterback sneak team. But

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<v Speaker 2>what they can do is get behind the big boys

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<v Speaker 2>and line up, hand it to Tuba and let him

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<v Speaker 2>do his thing. Right now, you know, I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are things obviously that they want to improve beyond that

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<v Speaker 2>one yard they didn't get. There were drop passes, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing I mean, and they kept going back

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<v Speaker 2>to those very specific things like a drop pass, like

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<v Speaker 2>a failed forth down conversion, And that's so far from

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<v Speaker 2>where we were at points last year and earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 2>where everything looked a little unsettled. So I mean, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that stands as progress. And I've kind of joked about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, normal football, but these last two games have

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<v Speaker 2>looked like normal football, normal football games contested by normal

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<v Speaker 2>football teams. So let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the specific things you were talking about as

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<v Speaker 3>well make a difference, because it's less. We've just got

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<v Speaker 3>to get better and more. Okay, we need to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on our wrap tackling. We need to focus on the

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<v Speaker 3>drops again, addressable issues and not just big picture. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to be a better football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there is there is no question things are

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<v Speaker 2>going much better. Andy Dalton is playing well. As I

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out this morning on the social media, Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 2>has thrown for over twenty two miles in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he is he is rolling.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that number wrong when I first saw your tweet,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, twenty two thousand? Is he halfway

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<v Speaker 3>to the moon?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you and numbers are not friends? We are not

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<v Speaker 2>Yill and you and numbers got some messy relationship stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in your past. I don't know what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen. I finagled the system so that the last

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<v Speaker 3>math class I ever took was the first semester of

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<v Speaker 3>my junior year of high school, and I never took

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<v Speaker 3>another one again. And the second I walked out of

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<v Speaker 3>that class, I left it all out of my brain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm done. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy. Well, every now and then, I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you to math here at Panthers dot com past, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll work on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jaren's going to sit me back to a high

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<v Speaker 3>school math class and possibly a fifth grade grammar class.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of my favorite things this week, and to

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<v Speaker 2>the point of Andy Dalton playing well and providing a

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<v Speaker 2>little you know, personality this team. Five hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>nine pass yards, five touchdowns in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Yeah, Andy Dalton's balling out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He is on one, as the kids say. But I

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<v Speaker 2>started getting into kind of the historical perspective on Andy's numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's amazing. I mean, I don't think people realize

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<v Speaker 2>where Andy Dalton is on these all time lists. He's

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<v Speaker 2>tied for twenty fourth all time in touchdown passes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks that have played in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of all the quarterbacks who have ever played, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got more of the things than all but twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you put together a list to the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four that are ahead of him, Like, I think six

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<v Speaker 3>are already in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine are already in the Hall of Fame. Two are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be as soon as they're eligible. In Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Brady and Drew Brees. I mean those two guys are

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<v Speaker 2>one two and both the touchdown and yards list.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the ones there's a few that are still playing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a handful there also, six still playing, some of

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<v Speaker 2>whom are going to be Hall of Famers. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just think I am not suggesting that Andy Dalton is

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<v Speaker 2>a future Hall of Famer. He is probably not. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's more in line with guys like Carrie Collins,

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<v Speaker 2>Vinny Testaverdi, you know, Carson Palmer, Drew Bledsoe, guys who

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<v Speaker 2>were just pretty good at football for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's okay right now. I think that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers need to create that sense of stability. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I asked Andy yesterday, you know, if there were

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks he looked up to, he mentioned being a Texas guy,

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<v Speaker 2>that Troy Aikman was one of those guys. Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 2>has eighty six more touchdown passes and six thousand, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eight more passing yards than Troy Aigman.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a cat let me? Okay, numbers are impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>There's probably a small caveat there because Troy Aiateman played

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<v Speaker 3>with him at Smith, right, but still, yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Dalton played with Cuba Hubbard. Those two things are

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<v Speaker 2>effectively the same, right, Basically, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Chuba Hubbard is now I think fourth all time

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<v Speaker 3>on the rushing list of Canadian born NFL players. There

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<v Speaker 3>you go, it's not bad, but yeah, Andy, if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 3>provides a higher floor to kind of you know, rising

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<v Speaker 3>tides lift all boats and so let's raise the floor

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll raise the play of everyone around him.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that, no question about it. And you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen progress from Deontay Johnson. You've seen, Okay, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>plays look like. You see Legat getting open it and

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<v Speaker 2>making plays and he's a big, go get it guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think it's going to be interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this time where Adam Thielen's not on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to see things evolve because it's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for Mingo, it's an opportunity for Lega to get out

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<v Speaker 2>there and make those plays. Because everybody knows that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the book is already out on Deontay Johnson based on

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage he saw in second half of that game

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<v Speaker 2>and what he'll probably get moving forward. People are on

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<v Speaker 2>it and know that, Okay, that's the first read, and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't mind saying that out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>When you know he's the first read and you know

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be a primary target that opens everybody

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<v Speaker 3>else up on the field. Though yep, and granted, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, that means at I'm feeling is not one

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<v Speaker 3>of those that gets opened up. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>draftedly get in the first round for a reason. You

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<v Speaker 3>can use Cuba Hubbard out of the backfield on swing

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<v Speaker 3>passes and will the wheel route is always open, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can use him on those little plays too. Having

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<v Speaker 3>Deonte on the field, like I said, it just you

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<v Speaker 3>can trust him with fifty to fifty balls and if

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<v Speaker 3>there's a ball where it looks like it might be okay,

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<v Speaker 3>more sixty forty for the defense. Now you've got another

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver who's probably running a little more open.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of it. It just opens a lot of things up.

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<v Speaker 2>And having that guy who has seen it, has done it,

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<v Speaker 2>has the experience, you know, it kind of creates those

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<v Speaker 2>lanes and creates the opportunities for a lot of other guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So right now, the Carolina Panthers offense is doing some

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<v Speaker 2>good work. On the other hand, it gets a little

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<v Speaker 2>dicey on the other side of the ball, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think some of the one of the things I've said

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<v Speaker 2>about this team is. You know, we went through two

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<v Speaker 2>really rough games at the beginning of the year, change quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>The last two have been a little bit better. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the guy who tries to take the longer view

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<v Speaker 2>of things. The things that were true about the Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers in July and August remain true. This team is

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<v Speaker 2>not overburdened with pass rushing weapons. They are still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure that out, and that showed up in a

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<v Speaker 2>big way Sunday against the Bengals. When you're playing against

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<v Speaker 2>a Joe Burrow and there's a t. Higgins and a

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<v Speaker 2>Jamar Chase on either side of the field, you can't blitch,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't create pressure. And then when you're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>it from the traditional organic sense, you know, that makes

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<v Speaker 2>it tough to move people around. So it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rough sledding. The other day. I mean, when the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals go four straight touchdown drives boom boom, boom, boom boom,

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<v Speaker 2>especially to start the third quarter, that was kind of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's, you know, it's one of those things. I

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<v Speaker 2>think some of that stuff's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>more available this week going against the Bears. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>even though Caleb Williams has had an up and down

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<v Speaker 2>start to his own career, he is not Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think because you're playing a rookie that loosens

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<v Speaker 2>a few things up offensively, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is still someone that likes to scramble around. That's just

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of hangover from his time at USC

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<v Speaker 3>where he had to be superman. He had to win

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<v Speaker 3>every game. He didn't have a defense he could rely on,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was all on him, and he still has

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<v Speaker 3>some of that in him. But we saw last week

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<v Speaker 3>with the Bears in one of their two wins, that

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<v Speaker 3>was Caleb's worst stat line of the season, but in

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<v Speaker 3>a way it was it was still his best completion

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<v Speaker 3>percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. So he

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<v Speaker 3>did what he needed to do as a quarterback of

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<v Speaker 3>a team with a good defense. But you almost kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hope that you get them into a shootout a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit to force him to run around, because then

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<v Speaker 3>as a rookie, maybe you can get him into some coverage,

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<v Speaker 3>sacks and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how weird is it that we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers hoping to get in shootouts right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I said last week, I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a shootout and it wasn't quiet, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>quite a shootout, but it was inch and right up

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<v Speaker 3>towards it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is moving in that direction. So it's been interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And we started a show talking about, you know, Charlotte

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<v Speaker 2>FC and playoff atmospheres and last night being here in

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<v Speaker 2>the building when they clinched that playoff BIRTHDA that was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. I think the other thing that really stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to me about last week's game against the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>is this crowd was into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you've got people out in the park lot

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<v Speaker 2>spray painting their hair orange before the game. They're coming

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<v Speaker 2>in there hollering and being loud at all the right

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<v Speaker 2>times in the fourth quarter, and it's like, Wow, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what it's supposed to feel like. Yeah, people are

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<v Speaker 2>into this thing. You know, people like points, people are

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<v Speaker 2>into the scoring stuff. So it's it's good times right

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<v Speaker 2>now and it's kind of interesting to see these guys

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<v Speaker 2>develop a little bit of that personality as a football team.

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<v Speaker 2>And on to Chicago, we'll see what we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like. Because there are a stretch of games

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. I try not to get too far ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you look at this first half of the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>it teems like Chicago, Washington, the Giants, et cetera. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing in there that's so overwhelming that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>see this team winning a handful of games before that

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<v Speaker 2>bye week. Yeah, and or an amount of ball games

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<v Speaker 2>handful implies five, I suppose, but that that may be

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<v Speaker 2>pushing it. But this team's in a position to win

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<v Speaker 2>some games right there.

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<v Speaker 3>They're definitely capable of winning. I almost think this may

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<v Speaker 3>be a bold take that may cut this out to

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<v Speaker 3>save me. I think the I think the Washington game

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<v Speaker 3>will be tougher than the Chicago game.

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<v Speaker 2>With the I mean Jayden Daniels on a heater right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there ain't no doubt about that. It's uh, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how that develops. But we take them one week

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<v Speaker 2>at a time. Here at the Happy half.

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<v Speaker 3>Hour, So that's in Dave Canalis, that's what he's that's

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<v Speaker 3>what he's about.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt. We're all about that grind. We're also all

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<v Speaker 2>about the happy half hour jukebox. You had me listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Spotless by the Lumineers. I forgot what song Zach Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a you know that song's kind of dark too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, speaking of messy relationships like you and math.

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<v Speaker 2>That was practically a Taylor Swift song there just happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more about like neither one of us are perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's okay because we don't. We can't try to

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<v Speaker 3>be perfect just to be with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go be not perfect together, so it's perfect. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting style. Here's the funny thing about Zach Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>When Christian McCaffrey was hosting a fundraiser a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, Zach Brian came here and played it for

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<v Speaker 2>Christians Foundation, and Christian was all into it. And to times,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Brian was still kind of this h YouTube star

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<v Speaker 2>before he had gone mainstream. And when I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Christian doing some stuff for the website about this concert,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Christian, man, I didn't think you'd be into

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Brian. He kind of got this hurt look on

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<v Speaker 2>his face and he was like, why would you think that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I don't know, I just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thought of you as a little more. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian McCaffrey, our old friend is still uh is still

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<v Speaker 2>in Zach Brian. I dig him. He is he is authentic,

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<v Speaker 2>he is genuine, and those are all good things. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of genuine and authentic, I had you listening to John

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<v Speaker 2>Prime last week. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I always liked John Prime, but I had not heard

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<v Speaker 3>that song before. That was a fun, little ditty, fun

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<v Speaker 3>little love story. Yeah, it took me. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to it a second time to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>he did end up with the dancer from the first

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<v Speaker 3>two verses, and then I got distracted again in the bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>so I went and listened to it a third time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Okay, yes, that is who the

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<v Speaker 3>woman was. But that was fun. I liked the the

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<v Speaker 3>course of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That song includes one of my favorite lyrics ever. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you guess which it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me let me google the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can just spoil it for you while we're

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<v Speaker 2>we can pretend and through the magic of editing MAC

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<v Speaker 2>act like you're googling right now. But when John Prime sang,

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<v Speaker 2>I sat there at that table and and acted real

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<v Speaker 2>naive because oh ye, that topless lady had something up

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<v Speaker 2>er sleep gang. That's writing right there, that's just writing.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a writer. The first I remember the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I heard that, I was like, whoa, So just

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<v Speaker 2>the uh painting a word picture as we like to say.

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<v Speaker 3>See topless lady had something up er sleeve did catch

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<v Speaker 3>my ear? The yeah every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that is good stuff. So anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you got for me this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I actually went back and forth between a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of songs, and I sat in my car this morning

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<v Speaker 3>and listened to one and I tried to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>it as Darren and I was gonna go with that one,

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<v Speaker 3>and then as I was walking in I changed my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically because the song I changed my mind to I've

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<v Speaker 3>listened to probably over one hundred times. And to your

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<v Speaker 3>point about writing, there are still a few lyrics in

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<v Speaker 3>that song that, after listening to it this many times,

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<v Speaker 3>still make me sit back in my seat. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go with what has actually become a mainstream hit,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think started out as a very good indie song,

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<v Speaker 3>stick Season by Noah Khan.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right. I saw Noah Khan at the uh is

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<v Speaker 2>that how you say it? Is it? Con? We just

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<v Speaker 2>go con saw him at the eleven Life Festival here

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<v Speaker 2>in town.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight then you probably heard him play sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably heard it. I'm not sure off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head which one that is right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>we will give it a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, there is one thing he does with his writing

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm not super crazy about where he times it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we'll give it a shot. We'll give

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<v Speaker 2>it a shot. Speaking of writers, the United States of

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<v Speaker 2>America lost one of our great heroes last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Christofferson Rhodes scholar, former Army helicopter pilot, singer, songwriter, actor,

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<v Speaker 2>renaissance man. He is one of he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most influential writers that have ever lived. He just happened

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<v Speaker 2>to do it to the tune of music, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just it was one of those things that floored me.

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<v Speaker 2>You say bad words when you hear that he had

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<v Speaker 2>passed last week at eighty eight. This man has lived

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<v Speaker 2>a life. He was a unique individual in every sense

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<v Speaker 2>of the word, and a hero to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>including me. So I've been listening to I've been depressing

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<v Speaker 2>everybody around me all week listening to Chris Christopherson songs

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of them are a little dark, Because

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<v Speaker 2>this man lived a little bit of a dark life

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways. But you know from songs

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<v Speaker 2>like Me and Bobby McGee that everybody's heard to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday Morning coming Down that Johnny Cash turned into a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote, whether you realize it or not, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the most influential songs in the American canon. So we

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<v Speaker 2>will listen to some Chris Christopherson this week, specifically the

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<v Speaker 2>Pilgrim chapter thirty three. There aren't actually thirty two other chapters,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can listen to the Pilgrim. I will listen

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<v Speaker 2>to a little Noah con. We'll come back next week

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about Panthers Bears and see if the Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers get their first ever win in the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago in the regular season. They have one there before

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 2>when Steve Smith had like a million yards in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs in five but it's been a minute since that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what happens in Chicago, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you guys next week on the Happy Half Hour.