1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, everybody. Welcome into a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, Glad to be with you, and 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: we are chalk full old good stuff tonight. It says, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: if I'm irish, chuck fun good stuff. I don't know. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm irish, maybe I'm not. Either way, glad to 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: be with you on this evening. We've got coaches assistant 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: coaches in the first segment. We're gonna go behind enemy 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: sidelines with dpcity in the second segment, and then we're 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna finish up with a couple of interviews down the 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: stretch that I had a really good time with a 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: guy I interviewed yesterday. You're gonna hear from him, Shack Lawson, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: one of the toughest dudes you're gonna find anywhere. And 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: I asked him about a moment back at the end 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: of his college career with sort of helped write the 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: book on Shack in that you talk about toughness. So 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Shack later in the show. But we're 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna kick off this show with some love for the 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Last night, Tuesday, night. We had a text 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: from Omar and if you know Omar Maju, he's just 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: the best. And he's like, hey, it's assistant coach tomorrow. 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Who do you want? And I jumped right on it. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: I wanted right out of the shoot. I wanted to 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: talk to cornerbacks coach Dino Vasso, because well, Dino is 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: one of the guys I haven't had a chance to 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: meet in the building. So I grabbed Dino Vasso. Drew Doherty, 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: caught up with Greg Jackson, dep Situ, had some opportune 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: time with James Camping and Mark Van Amir. Well, he 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to spend some time with Danny Barrett. 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: So we are going to get rolling right off the 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: top here with me. I'm hosting, so I'm putting my 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: interview right at the top, and I had a good 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: time talking going off the field today with cornerbacks coach 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: corner not quarterbacks cornerbacks coach Dino Vasso. All right, I've 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: been waiting for this interview for a while. Cornerbacks coach 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: Dano Vasso joining me. John Harris and coach I know 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: you hear that, and you're like, wait a second, what 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: do you mean, you've been waiting for this. Well, way 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: back in the day, I played defensive back, so I'd 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: love to talk about the DBS. I gotta just start 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: with how's Houston? Ben? I don't know if you had 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: a chance to see much of it with trading camp, 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: but how's been the transition coming over to Houston? It's 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: been awesome? Wife loves it. You've been out here with 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: the heat. We're getting accustomed to a day by day, 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: but those four we love it. Have you got a 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: chance to see much of the city not yet? Not 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: yet getting acclimated with the new scheme, a new system, 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: So not much free time right now, but we'll get 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: to at some point here, Diana. We always talk about 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: players that have to justus to a new system, but 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: when you change cities, you gotta change systems too. How's 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: that kind of gone for you learning a new system? 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure over the years you've learned all 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: the coverage. You know, all the cover, but verbiage being different. 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: How's that transition gone for you as a coach? Yeah, 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: it hasn't been too bad. The biggest thing is terminology. 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody plays cover one, two, three, and four, 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: so it hasn't been much different that way. The biggest 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: thing is terminology and be able to translate to something 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: that you've played before with your group back there. You 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: got a guy in Bradley Roby. What have you seen 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: from a guy that's been around, He's kind of been there, 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: done that. What have you seen from Robe kind of 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: the leader of that group back there. I've said this 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: about him before. He has experience, and you can't teach experience. 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: He just a smart football player, understands splits, leverage formation ID. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: So it's good to have him a veteran in the 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: room that could teach some of the young guys. Now 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you've got a couple of guys that are apparently coming in. 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: We've not seen official results or the official notice, but 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: you've got a couple of you guys coming in. When 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you do get somebody new back there, what's kind of 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the key in teaching them the system? What's kind of 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: the biggest key in kind of getting a new guy 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: up to speed, if you will, So the easiest ways 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: to try to translate it to something that they've learned before. 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: So I have a history with Russell Douglas as his 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: first on the grass. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's it's easier 80 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: for me to translate that because I spent three years 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: with him in Phillies, right, A little bit tougher with 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: guys that I haven't spent time with, but guys that 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: I have a history in the past. But it's little 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: bit easier that way. Do you guys in the coach's 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: office make fun of Lovely Smith's beard at all? No? No, 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: we don't mess with the white bearded man. He did 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: not mess with the white bearded man. How is it 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: Ben getting to know him and getting to learn his 89 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: methodology and his thought process in coaching defense? I mean, 90 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: it's great. He's just got a wealth of knowledge. So 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I've just tried to be a sponge around him. He's 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: He's coached football a longer than I've been alive. So 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to spend as much time as I 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: can around coach and and uh and learn as much 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: as I can. That's that's something you share with him, right, 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: about him coaching longer, you've been a lot. I don't 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: know that that's a fact, but but I'm guessing that 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: it is. But I have not shared that with him. Yeah, 99 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: at that point, Okay, I started this a couple of 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago through the players, and it's called say something 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: nice about. That's just the way of being pot So 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. Say something nice about. How about this one? 103 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Safeties coach Greg Jackson always got a smile on his face. 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I kind of want to know what's behind the laughter there, 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: but I won't. I won't say that because he always 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: wears his mass. But we know that there's a smile 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: behind the man. You should get one of those mass 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: actually has his face and you can see the smile. Um, okay, 109 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: say something nice about Terence Mitchell, who loves the organ 110 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: Ducks and he's always he's always repping his college head 111 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: to toe, head to toe in an organ ducks here. 112 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: I love these guys that will rep their cause. I 113 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: can appreciate it, all right, Say something nice. Oh you 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna I'm gonna tap in here. Say 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: something nice about a guy that was a real problem 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: for us, Marlon Humphrey. He's telling stuff, can play inside outside, 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: sticky and coverage. He's smart, it's quick, he can run. 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: I can't say enough good things about one of the humprees. 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: What triggered for him because it felt like early on, like, Okay, 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: is this gonna really be the trick here? And then 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he went to a whole different level. 122 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: What triggered for him and what are some of the 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: things that maybe you can translate onto some of the 124 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: guys here. I think just just experiencing being comfortable within 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: the scheme and the game that comes with was playing 126 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: the game and just time on the job, time on task, 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: and he has that now, do you know. I'm glad 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: you're here. Thank you very much for your time, my friend. 129 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, John, I appreciate it now. I don't know 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: if you could hear that interview for me. At the end, 131 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I was getting a little winded because I was walking 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: and talking. That's just showing my age. Do you know. 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: Could have probably done that for another thirty minutes, just 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: walk and talk, no big deal, But I started getting 135 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: a little winded at the end. Man, it was a 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: score cher out there today, but y'all made it through. 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Including running backs coach and one of our faves. This 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: guy's been around for a few years now and we 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: love having him here. I think he does a great 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: job with running backs. He coached up in the CFL 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: and Andrea Ware speak so highly of Danny Barrett and 142 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Mark Vannermer had a chance to catch up with the 143 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Texans running back coach with the Thunder in the background. 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Coach Danny Barrett coach. What's the vibe like with this 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: coaching staff? Everything seems very positive and energetic, you know 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: what you bang on with that, you know, lots of 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: energy from all the guys, lots of experience, you know, 148 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: and he is a great group to work with it. 149 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're excited, you know, to be together finally, 150 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, starting to put together. You know, you know, 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: the system and everything in place. We see it coming 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: together the way we envisioned it being. I know careers 153 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: are at different stages for everybody, but what about these 154 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: running backs. Have you ever had somebody big names, so 155 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to speak, not in one room? You know, it's at 156 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the same time, I should say. You know, there's been 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: one guy here, one guy there over the course of 158 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: my career. But you know, to have the room with 159 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: what we have now, you know, a makeup of veteran 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: guys and some youth as well. You know, the camaraderie 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: is outstanding. I'm excited about you know, where we are 162 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: as a group and how we progress so far doing camp. 163 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: How does special teams factor into the equation with these guys, 164 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: because not all the veterans play special teams. Well, that's 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: always the key, you know, you do have to find 166 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: ways to try to figure that out again. You know, 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: from a team standpoint, you know, these guys that do 168 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: whatever's ask of them, whether it's in a backup capacity 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: or some type of specialty role on a special team. 170 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure Coach Ross and Coach Baker figure 171 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: that out. But our guys willing to do whatever it 172 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: takes to win a football game. What is happening a 173 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: guy like mark ingram too for you, that kind of 174 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: veteran leadership, his personality, all of it. I love it 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: from day one, just talking to him, from the day one, 176 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, when we first had his hands to talk 177 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: back when he's signing everything, nothing has changed with him. 178 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: And that's what I like about it. He's a consistent pro. 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: He comes to work every day the same attitude, whether 180 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: it's in the meeting room out on the football field. 181 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: It's contagious. It's infectious for the rest of the guys, 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: not on the offense, but the whole team. So his 183 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: veteran leadership is invaluable as a former quarterback, How does 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: that help you as a running backs coach? Well, again, 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: anytime you have to experience, you know again talking to 186 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: these guys, a guy like Mark David, you know, Rex Field, 187 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: all these guys, you know, they come from different places 188 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: and learn different things. And as a former quarterback, I 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: was never satisfied with knowing enough. I'm always trying to 190 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: learn more stuff what you guys do here in this situation. 191 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: So it's it's been valuable for me, you know, just 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: being able to you know, talk about different situational football 193 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: from where they come from. And it's helped me out 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: tremendous as well to be a better running back coach. 195 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: What rules would you change in the CFL to make 196 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: it more palatable for American football fans? Would you add 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: an extra down, eliminate the running start? How would you 198 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: handle the coach? Well, I think the key to make it, 199 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, more comparable, because again, the CFL game is 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: the CFL game and that's unique de sub it, but 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: I think Adam the other down would probably give the 202 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: fans a little bit more familiarity with everything. The unlimited motion, 203 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: you got to have that, you know, But the extra 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: down the defensive gays, They're probably think I'm losing my mind. 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: But if I'm a offensive coach, if I had an 206 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: extra down, I'd love it, all right, Coach. We have 207 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches assistance staff members who are former quarterbacks. 208 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you have Nick as Sari over here, you 209 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: have Matt Bazergan, you have Dylan Thompson, you have you 210 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: who's got the best camp arm here? What do you think? 211 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: You know what? I'm not one that I'm not one 212 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: to you know, talk about myself. I never have. I'll 213 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: let the numbers speak for themselves. How about that David 214 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Culley too, I have to mention him a help down one. 215 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: Tell me you got all of these guys on staff. 216 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll let the numbers speak for themselves. How about that? 217 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: All right? Coach, thanks a lot, You're welcome. Thank you. 218 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: That man epitomizes cool. I mean, he's just a cool 219 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: cat and love having him around. Dino is the same 220 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: way talking to Dino. He's just real, chill, just young dude. 221 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have got poised and calm and 222 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I love seeing that because we've not always had that 223 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: with the Texans a very calm, cool, poised leadership. So 224 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: it's nice to kind of see that from those guys 225 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: in particular. Now another guy who I couldn't pick two guys, 226 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and you know me. I played in the secondary back 227 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: at Brown University, played a little corner, played a little safety, 228 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: So I'm always interested in defensive backs and their coaches. 229 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: So I was really happy to pick an opportunity to 230 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to talk with Dino Vasso. But I 231 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: also wanted to talk to Greg Jackson. But I can 232 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: only pick one, so I picked Dino. My man, Drew 233 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Doherty said he was gonna catch up with the former 234 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: New York Giant safety who played with Bill Parcels. How 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: about a Drew's dozen with these coach Greg Jackson. He 236 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: was assistant coach Greg Jackson. What was the first nickname 237 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: that Bill Parcels gave you as a player, Greg? That 238 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: was it? That was it? Man. I've heard he gives 239 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: everyone a peculiar nickname, but I've never had a nickname. 240 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: He always said Greg. When I heard him say Greg, 241 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: that means I was doing something wrong. Oh but you didn't. 242 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: You didn't do too much wrong with him, did you? Oh? 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: He was a great coach man. And you know one 244 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: thing about Bill and all the players said it they 245 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: played under him. He always knew when to push the 246 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: buttons at the right time. He knew when guys were 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: not into it doing practice. He knew when to pick 248 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the tempo up. He knew when to start practice and 249 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: started over. You know, that's the type of coach he was. 250 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: My hats off to him, even though it was with 251 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: him for two years. You know, it was a big, 252 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: big part of my career. What was it like you 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: get drafted, you had been an All American, you mean, 254 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: one of the best players in LSU history, and you 255 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: go to the Giants. What was that transition like back then? 256 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: It's funny because I think the transition wasn't too bad 257 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: because at the time in college had Mike Carr as 258 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: my DV coach and defense coordinator, and then I had 259 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: John Fons who was in you know, had a lot 260 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: to do with the NFL. So my transition wasn't at 261 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: hard because when I was at LSH we were doing 262 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the similar things that the Giants were doing. 263 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Playing covered two, covered three, playing man coverage. You know, 264 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: we were simple on defense, just like we are now, 265 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: and it was just all about flying to the football. 266 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Let's go back. Miami's where you're from. Miami heat versus 267 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge heat versus Houston heat, it's sort of different. 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Miami heat is it's hot, but it's breezy. You get breeze. 269 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Louisiana and Houston totally the different. It's all humidity, all 270 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: humidity now, and we're ping ponging around here. You have 271 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: a college degree in communications broadcasting. How that all come 272 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: about it? Well, when I got to college, I didn't 273 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: know what I wanted to major in. I went from everywhere, 274 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: and finally when I didn't finish once I got drafted 275 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: and I decided to just wait until my career was over. 276 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: It was the best thing I ever could have did, 277 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: because I focused more on school after that. What made 278 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: me get into communications was the fact that I was 279 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: being interviewed as a player, you know, and I thought 280 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: it was important when I presented myself. It would be 281 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: a big part of my growing success. So I thought about, 282 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, I need to you know, get my degree 283 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: in communications with I'm happy with Jerry considered taking it 284 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: further and doing that route to the coaching Hall. No, 285 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: when I'm done. This is this is my bug here. 286 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: No TV or radio for you in the future. When 287 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I when I decided coaching, I probably was in my sixth, 288 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth year in the league because I didn't 289 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: think I was gonna play twelve years. But I happened 290 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: to do that. So after that, I just got the 291 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: coaching bug man and got into coaching. After that, would 292 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: you do for fun off the field and ban rouge? Nothing? Nothing? Nothing? 293 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Why not? Nothing? I tell you what we did do. 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: We ate crawfish at Crawfish behind Bruce art Hall. That's 295 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: all we did. We got crawfish here. If you've done 296 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: any of that while you've been in Houston, I don't 297 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: even eat too much prober. You know. When I leave here, 298 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: I go straight back home to my family because we 299 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: still have our house in Frisco and we have a 300 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: house in New Orleans, so I go back and visit them. 301 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: How are they doing. They're doing good, They're doing good. 302 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard. But the great thing about it 303 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: is now, you know, with the technology, now we have FaceTime, 304 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: so I get to talk to him every single day. 305 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: What's the best part of this job here? I think 306 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: The best part of this job right now is with 307 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: coach Lovey Smith, I'm able to coach. I'm able to 308 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: actually coach guys individually, like the safeties. That's one of 309 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the reasons I got into this business is to teach 310 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: and give back to these guys and let them understand 311 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: and just try to get them to see the game 312 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: as a not so fast, just to slow it down 313 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: for him, because a lot of those guys when they 314 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: come into the league, they're looking for everything, and you 315 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: got to break things down for him, to slow the 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: game down for him. And once you do that, I mean, 317 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: their talent comes a lot. Twelve years in the end, fella, 318 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: as a player, basically the last twenty years as a coach, 319 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: you've You've seen a lot which coaches have made you 320 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: a better coach man, the coaches that I've coached with, 321 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: or maybe they coached you when you were a player. Oh, 322 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Bill parcels Ammat, Thomas Hitters, right down Ray Roads. 323 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a ton of guys. Man Rod Russ, 324 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the late Rod Russ, who was my defensive coordinator, Jim 325 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Moore junior when I was with the Saints. I mean 326 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it's it's at Pascal, defensive coordinator. I mean everybody, every 327 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: coach I've been under, defensive coordinator, defensive back, coach. I've 328 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: learned something from Mike Nolan, who was with me at LSU, 329 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and then he came to the Giants and I was 330 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: with him one year. I learned a lot. So it's 331 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys I have learned from as 332 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: a as a player, when they were a coach and 333 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: when I became a coach, and the coaches I've been under, 334 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I've learned a ton. What's the most random memorable moment 335 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl? Win? The field goal? The field goal, 336 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: that's it. And we're all on one knee and we're 337 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: looking at the field goal and somebody screamed out Is screamed, 338 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: it's no good. We all jumped up and started celebrating. Man, 339 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, that was the best part being in the 340 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, And I think one of the one of 341 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the I think the second biggest is just making it there. 342 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: Winning in San Francisco fifteen thirteen. I'll never forget that. 343 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: We never scored a touchdown, but we scored five field goals, 344 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: which was great. In the memorable moment LT punching that 345 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: ball out at the end against Roger Craig. Those are memories. 346 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: You don't forget he played in some huge game. I 347 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: mean you just mentioned to him. You played in many 348 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: more of them. You get asked about it much by 349 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: your current players, ever, Yeah, I do, I do, but 350 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't get into that much. I really don't, because 351 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: when I played back then, what I try to do 352 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: is when I talk about the pass as a player, 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: I try to bring it to the present, you know, 354 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: like our system here, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 355 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Coats and now us. That's what I try 356 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: to bring it to. It's just everything has been done 357 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: before and they think it's new, but it's not new. 358 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: It's just something of the past, and you're just a 359 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: new part of it, you know. And that's what I 360 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: try to teach. What I'm teaching these guys, how to study, 361 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: how to watch tape, how to defend guys, how to tackle, 362 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That's what you try to teach 363 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, because all the young generation think 364 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: everything is new, you know, and it's old, but now 365 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: they see it as new. So you just try to 366 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: stay even kill and and make them think it's new, 367 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: but it's really old. Greg Jackson, we really do appreciate time. 368 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Best of luck this season, Thank you very much. So 369 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: that was me, Drew and Mark with Dino Vasso and 370 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Danny Barrett and Greg Jackson caught up with James Camping. 371 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: But you know what, we're gonna save that. We're gonna 372 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: save that, I think for Friday, for the day before 373 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: we take on the Buccaneers. So we're gonna save that 374 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: because if I had that interview to trust me, coach Camping. 375 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: He can he can go a little bit, he can 376 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: talk a little bit, which I love. I mean you 377 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: know that. I mean I like to think we're kindred spirits. 378 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: I've talked to him a few times out in the field. 379 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: I love I love the guy and I love watching 380 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: him coach. So we'll save that for you for Friday. 381 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: So that's just the tease for about forty eight hours 382 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: from now, because I know I'm gonna want to start 383 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: off the show with that, So James Camping dep City. 384 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: That'll be on Friday. But big thanks to Dino Vasso, 385 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: to Greg Jackson, and to Danny Barrett for joining us 386 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: on the show, and of course to Omar and the 387 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: PR team who have done a tremendous job. E and 388 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Lindsay both new have done and also I love, love, 389 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: love this PR team and they were able to put 390 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: this together, so really appreciate their help. The assistant coaches 391 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: talking today to us. So we're getting near the end 392 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: of training camp. Tomorrow will be the I think training 393 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: camp actually ended last week. This week was more about 394 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: game prep and that's why I haven't written a lot 395 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: of hairs hits or any any this week because it's 396 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: all game prep stuff, so I can't really be giving 397 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: away state secrets. But tomorrow is the last day that 398 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: we'll be able to see a full practice, and I 399 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: don't know what ninety five degree temperatures that I'm all 400 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: unhappy about that, but it is sad when that day 401 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: comes because then we go back to see and stretching 402 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: and if we get to see practice at all. But 403 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: that has bothered me during the regular season at all, 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: because you got those games to look forward to on 405 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Sundays throughout the eighteen weeks of the NFL season. Okay, 406 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: we get back, We're gonna do a little enemy sidelines 407 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: because Dpcito had a chance to catch up with Karmen 408 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: Vitali of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the World champs. What 409 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: has the last twelve months been like? They get into 410 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: all of it. They preview the game a little bit 411 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Yeah, it's game three the preseason, but because 412 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: both teams are playing starters, a little bit of intrigue 413 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: there with Tom Brady and Gronk and the guys coming 414 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: from Tampa to take on your Texans. So we'll go 415 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: behind enemy sidelines with Carmen Vitality and our own dpcity 416 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: next right here in Texans All Access, Here in Texans 417 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: All Access Here in Texans All Access. Welcome back this 418 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans 419 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am John Harris, your host Football and 420 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: Outside the One reporter, and of course looking forward to 421 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: kickoff against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Saturday night at Energy Stadium. 422 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: First time with as I guess it's still COVID, but 423 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: first time we have a preseason game in this building 424 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: in I think right at two years, wow, because the 425 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: last one was Week four against the Rams in twenty nineteen. 426 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: And then of course you know what happened after that 427 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: are all kinds of trades. Clowne gets traded, Tunsil joins 428 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide has traded for Keion Cross in this trade. 429 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a crazy weekend. But either way, 430 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: that preseason game against the Rams was the last preseason 431 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: game that there has been at NRG Stadium. This will 432 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: be the first after two road trips, so looking forward 433 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: to that. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers come in the World 434 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Champs led by a guy who has one of a 435 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: couple of key games in his lifetime in this building, 436 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: that being Tom Brady, and he brings along his band 437 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: of merry men including Bruce Arians, head coach, Byron Leftwitch, 438 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: Joe see Gronk, Mike Evans, etc. Now, how much we 439 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: see those guys hard to say, but I do think 440 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: we'll see some. So we decided to go behind enemy 441 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: sidelines with a good friend of DP Cities, and that's 442 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Carmen Vitali covers the Buccaneers for Bucks dot Com. Here 443 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: is their discussion about this one on Saturday. It's Enemy 444 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Sidelines and joining me today, Tampa Bay Buccaneer staff writer 445 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: and team reporter Carmen and Vitali my good friend. It's 446 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: been a couple of years since we've seen each other. 447 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the preseason, something we haven't seen in 448 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: a while. So tell me, how is camp going for 449 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: you out in Tampa Bay. You're probably sweating as much 450 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: as we are in Houston, that's for sure. Yeah, I'm 451 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: actually looking forward to the break because at least you 452 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: guys play indoors, so we'll be indoors at your stadium 453 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: whereas our stadium. There is no reprieve whatsoever. But camp 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: has been going well, and I think that we're all 455 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: just really excited to have had it and to have 456 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: it in kind of a normal capacity. We had fans 457 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: this year that came out and it was really great 458 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: to see and the energy levels were up as a result. 459 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: So it's been really interesting. But of course, with this team, 460 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: we brought back all twenty two starters from the Super 461 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: Bowl teams, so it was kind of there weren't I 462 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: feel like as many position battles as maybe we've seen 463 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: in years past, and you kind of knew what you 464 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: were getting, and that was a very interesting and kind 465 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: of unique feeling for us. It is unusual after winning 466 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: a championship to bring back all twenty two starters. Usually 467 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: you see players go to other teams, try to make 468 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: more money, get a bigger contract. But for this Bucks team, 469 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: how surprising was it that everyone came back? And do 470 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: you think that's more Bruce arians Is it because of 471 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Do you think it's just the vibe that 472 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: the team has in the building. What do you think 473 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: attributed to all that? Well, I can't say enough about 474 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: the culture, and I think that that's the first thing 475 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: that these guys point to and just how well this 476 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: team was set up. But also last year, I feel 477 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: like with the abbreviated preseason and getting a new quarterback 478 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: in Tom Brady, there was a lot of changes to 479 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: this offense and it took a while for them to 480 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: sort of gell all the way and we didn't see 481 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: that until maybe the last four games of the season 482 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: after the bye week. That's when they really started to 483 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: kick into gear. So, believe it or not, I think 484 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: these guys think that there's some unfinished business despite the 485 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: fact that they won the Super Bowl. They know that 486 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: they can be so much better now that they're all 487 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: together again. And I think that's just a testament to 488 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: how much these guys really like each other, they like 489 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: playing with one another, they love this coaching staff. I 490 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: think that's gone a little under the radar. Two that 491 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: everyone in this coaching staff has come back as well. 492 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: And that's sometimes something you see after championship teams too, 493 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: is a lot of these coaches get poached. That hasn't 494 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: happened either, And I think that the continuity is just 495 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: too good to pass up. And you just like, these 496 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: guys are set up for success again this year, so 497 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: why would you leave? Well, yeah, and Tom Brady's back, 498 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: and that's a huge part of it. So he hasn't 499 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: really played a whole lot in the preseason. I know 500 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Bruce arians said a few weeks ago that he does 501 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: expect Tom Brady in the starters to play in this 502 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: final preseason game. How much do you expect the starters 503 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: to play because obviously we know what Tom Brady does 504 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: on the field, But do you expect to see a 505 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: whole lot of the starters in Saturday's game against Texans? Yeah? 506 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: Actually so, Bruce kind of said it after this last game, 507 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: last preseason game where we didn't play any of the 508 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: starters because of the joint practices with the Titans. He 509 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: wants to see about a half out of his starters 510 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: just because it's kind of this dress rehearsal. I mean, 511 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: this preseason has also been weird because we've gone from 512 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: four games to three, So this is kind of your 513 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: address rehearsal. You do get kind of a bye week 514 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: before you go into the regular season, and Bruce wants 515 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: to make sure these guys are warmed up and they 516 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: have enough game speed underneath them while they prepare for 517 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: Dallas and opening the entire NFL preseason so or the 518 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: entire NFL regular season. So we're expecting about a half 519 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: I think from these guys from the starters, and that's 520 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: going to be more obviously than they played last game. 521 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting just to kind of get those 522 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: reps in and see how this team is going to 523 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: start looking in its final form. Now that these guys 524 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: have started game planning, they treated this whole week leading 525 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: up to the Texans that this is a game. You know, 526 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: it's no longer the camp days, the grueling day is 527 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. This is game planning. And they 528 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: had the scout team running against the first team offense, 529 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: acting like the Texans. So it's going to be very 530 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: interesting and we're kind of getting back in the swing 531 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, it certainly feels like it's same thing 532 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: here with the Texans, just getting back into normal practices. 533 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: All right. The quarterback position, because we've seen some of 534 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks now that Tom Brady's not playing too 535 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: much in the preseason. They've got Blaine Gabbert, drafted Kyle Trass. 536 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: They also have Ryan Griffin. What do you foresee in 537 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: that quarterback battle behind Tom Brady? Is there a true backup? 538 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Is Kyle Trass going to be the next quarterback of 539 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: the future for the Bucks? How is the quarterback position 540 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: shaping up behind number twelve? Yeah, I think that your 541 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: clear cutbackup is still Blaine Gabbert, just because blank Abert 542 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: has been in Bruce arians system since their days in 543 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: Arizona together, so he knows this system more than anyone does, 544 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: probably even more than Brady does just from a textbook standpoint, 545 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: because he's just been in it a lot longer. So 546 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: I think he's your clear cut backup. Ryan Griffin has 547 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: been with this franchise. He's actually be if he makes 548 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: the active roster or the final roster this year, he 549 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: will be the longest ten yard bucks quarterback in history 550 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: because he's lasted that long as a backup quarterback. I 551 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: think he'll be in a seventh season. Kyle chask is 552 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: really interesting, and I think that he's coming into just 553 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: the best possible situation for a young quarterback because there's 554 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: no pressure on him whatsoever. They Bruce has said, you know, 555 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: he's going to have time to develop. He's getting to 556 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: know pick Tom Brady's brain. He's getting to also have 557 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: this massive room of quarterback coaches like Bruce Arians the 558 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer, all the way to Byron Leftwich, the offensive 559 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: coordinator former quarterback in this league. He got Clyde Christensen, 560 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: who's coached some of the most prolific quarterbacks in league history. 561 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: And then you have Tom Moore, who's an offense of visitant, 562 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: has over six decades of coaching experience, especially when it 563 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: comes to the offense. So I don't know what better 564 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: situation you want for a young quarterback to develop. There's 565 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: going to be no pressure on him and he can 566 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: just kind of take his time, and that's what we're 567 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: seeing out of him. He's learning the offense, he's picking 568 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: things up. I've seen a drastic improvement in him from 569 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of camp to now, and I'm sure you'll 570 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: get to see him in this game, probably in the 571 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: second half. All right, Well, you talked about not very 572 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: many position battles because of all the returning starters and 573 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: veterans on this team. So how it was the off 574 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: season because usually you hadn't have an off season. You 575 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: talk about positions of need guys that have left in 576 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: free agency. What were positions of need for the Bucks 577 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: this offseason and how did they address them? Well, I 578 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: think a big aspect of the game that they addressed 579 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: with special teams. That was something that Bruce arians had 580 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: identified was where they still wanted to get better and 581 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: that was reflected in this year's draft. Of all the 582 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: guys that you kind of picked up, you got to 583 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: kick returner and Jalen Darden, who's also a really good 584 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But then you also got kind of linebackers 585 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: and safeties and cornerbacks that you want to use on 586 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: special teams more than maybe you know they're going to 587 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: get used on their respective sides of the ball because 588 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: those positions are kind of locked up. So I think 589 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you saw a lot of addressing of the special teams. 590 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: We're still kind of looking at that kick returner spot. 591 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: It's between Jalen Darden, Jaden mckins, who's been on this 592 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: team now for a couple of years wide receiver, and 593 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: even Keishan Vaughn who was a third round pick for 594 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: the team last year, and he's kind of gotten some work, 595 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: especially last game in the kick return game in preseason. 596 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of a battle there. I 597 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: know that's not a sexy battle and necessarily, but we've 598 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: also seen a little bit on the offensive line. Bruce 599 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Bruce Arian said something interesting us yesterday a couple days 600 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: ago where Aaron Stinney, who came in for Alex Kappa 601 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: who got hurt in the playoffs. Aaron Stinney was a 602 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: plug and play player and he did so well for 603 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks down the stretch and into the Super Bowl 604 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: that Bruce told us that the competition between those two 605 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: for that right guard spot is closer than we think. 606 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: It's still Alex Kappa's job to lose, but it's going 607 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: to be very interesting, you know, to see how much 608 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: Alex Kappa played this last game when none of the 609 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: others started. Did He's coming back from injury. They're trying 610 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: to get him a little more reps and get him 611 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: more comfortable. But it was just really interesting to hear 612 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: because I don't think that was on anyone's radar prior 613 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: to this preseason. All right, well, let's talk about defense, 614 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: because we remiss if we didn't talk about the Bucks 615 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: defense and that amazing Super Bowl performance. And they made 616 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: news earlier this month and they made Todd Bowls the 617 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: highest paid defensive coordinator, gave a three year contract. How 618 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: does Bowls plan to build on the success of twenty 619 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty twenty one. He's got all of the 620 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: starters coming back. But do you foresee anything different with 621 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: his defense this year? Yeah? Absolutely. It's something Todd Bowles 622 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: does every year. He retools his defense depending on his 623 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: personnel and his players that he knows he has. He 624 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: plays to these players' strength, and that requires just kind 625 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: of every year there's something different. So he was He's 626 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: been in the lab this last off season, and he 627 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: got a really really interesting piece in Joe Tryan, who 628 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: was the team's first round pick and outside linebacker, and 629 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: he's getting added to a room with obviously Shack Barrett, 630 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: with Jason here, Paul, those guys are pretty set on 631 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: the outside, but now we're seeing just some really interesting combinations, 632 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: some really interesting fronts. I think Ryan Tannehill got a 633 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: little surprised last week when he saw a shack, Barrett, Jpp, 634 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: and Joe try On all on the field at the 635 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: same time. So that presents a lot of issues that 636 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: put a sense a lot of confusion for offenses. And 637 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: I think just in general, these players being more comfortable. 638 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: The secondary is so young, and now they've got two 639 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: years in this system and they're really going for that 640 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: next step of understanding what teams are trying to do 641 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: against them versus just you know, kind of going out 642 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: there and executing the plays that are called. They're learning 643 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: to actually read what these offenses are trying to do 644 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: to beat them and then to counter that. So it's 645 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: all a big chess game to Todd Bowls, and we 646 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: love that here, and I think these guys are really 647 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: understanding how to think like him now in this next season. 648 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: All right, Carmen, what are some of the storylines that 649 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: you're looking at heading into the regular season. I know 650 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: it's a big, big regular season opener against the Dallas Cowboys, 651 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: but What are some of the storylines coming off a 652 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: big Bowl championship heading into year two for Tom Brady 653 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: and crew. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see 654 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: if they can pick up truly where they left off 655 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: at the end of last season. And I think that 656 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: when Tom Brady was walking off the field of the 657 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: NFC Championship with Devin White, he said, we haven't even 658 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: played our best ball yet and this was going into 659 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So if that actually tracks and you 660 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: come into this season right where you left off, that's 661 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest thing. And obviously getting a 662 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: really great opponent in the Dallas Cowboys opening the entire 663 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: NFL regular season, It's going to be very interesting for 664 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott seeing if he does play. I know there's 665 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: been some back and forth, but all signs point to 666 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: that and what this defense is going to do against 667 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback like him. Those are the things that I'm 668 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: looking at, you know, start the season off and then 669 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: just everybody's gonna we have a target on our back. 670 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Now the Bucks have a target on their back and 671 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: someone that's been with the team for a while. That's 672 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: something that's very different coming into this season. You're going 673 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: to get every team's best, and you're gonna have to 674 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: It's going to be an uphill battle to get to 675 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: those playoff again, but hopefully that they can do it, 676 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: and they're pretty well set up thanks to the continuity 677 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: from last year. A lot changes in a year of Carmen. 678 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: And you know what, I would be lying if I 679 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: didn't say I was jealous when I saw you wearing 680 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: your super Bowl ring on social media, because that is beautiful. 681 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: It was a pretty surreal moment. It really was. Honestly, 682 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: it hit me harder than I thought having your last 683 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: name on a super Bowl ring. It's very cool. I'm 684 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: telling you right now. There's nothing more that I want 685 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Is that a super Bowl 686 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: ring with the name Harris on it that relates to me. 687 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: That would be kind of cool, and hopefully that would 688 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: happen that everybody the organization would get a ring. I 689 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: don't know who knows, but I just want to see 690 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: this organization get a ring, and that would be really 691 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: really cool. But Carmen's got one, and I'd like to 692 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: say I'm envious, and I know I shouldn't make that's 693 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: one of the deadly sins, but yeah, I'm envious. I 694 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: would love to have a ring. It's funny because I 695 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: don't wear any other jewelry of them. My wedding ring, 696 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: that's it. That's all I wear. Super Bowl ring. I 697 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: want to have more than any other piece of jewelry ever. 698 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. Okay, well we get back. 699 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from a guy that joined the Texans 700 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: this offseason in a trade. He is going to have 701 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity Saturday to really put a steak into his 702 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: future with this team. And that's Shack Lawson. That's next 703 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: right here in Texas Axis. You're here in Texas Axis, 704 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: You're here in techs were one file second. This Wednesday 705 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: the show of Texas All Access from the Hounday Texans 706 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris. Glad to 707 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: be with you. And on Tuesday, I think it's Tuesday 708 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: days all kind of run together. Today was Wednesday, so 709 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: it was Dina Vassals. Yeah, so it was yesterday. It 710 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: was Tuesday. I had a chance to catch up with 711 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: a guy that I've been wanting to ask one particular 712 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: question of him for I think it's been about six 713 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: years now. Because back in twenty fifteen, Shack Lawson was 714 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: playing defensive and he was All American defensive end Clemson. 715 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: He was a star. Clemson played Oklahoma down in the 716 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Orange Bowl in a semifinal. Baker Mayfield and the Sooners 717 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: and Clemson came out with the win. But in that game, 718 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: Shack ended up getting hurt. He hurt his knee. Now, 719 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: at the time, there were rumors about certain things, whatever 720 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: the case, and you guys know how much I love 721 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: college football, and so I thought, Man, Clemson's gonna be 722 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: in some trouble. Guts Alabama. Shaq can't play well. I 723 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: didn't know the extent of it, but I wanted and 724 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: I have wanted to ask Shack that question for years. 725 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: How did he play well? I finally had an opportunity 726 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: to do just that. He was really fun to talk 727 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: to here, Shack Lawson. All right, it's been a thousand 728 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: agrees out here practice John Harris alongside Shack Lawson. Shack, 729 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: we all know you went to Clemson. We all know 730 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: you played in Miami and now here with the Texans, 731 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: which practice site was hotter in the deadest summer South Carolina. Miami. 732 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: Are here, just here here by far, not else, not 733 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: even closer. Yeah, way worse today, worse than any other. Um. 734 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: Today was bad, but they don't have its days. I 735 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: feel like that first we could count trying to get 736 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: used to it was terrible for me. How hard is 737 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: that for guys that come into this. I mean, you've 738 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: at least been in South Carolina, you've been in Miami, 739 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: you felt it a little bit, But some of these 740 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: guys come from the north damp no idea. Yeah, I 741 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: feel bad for those guys just trying to get adjusted 742 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: or a teams even played out here. But I understand 743 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: why now all the Texas teams got dorms now because 744 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: it makes sense. It makes sense. I never knew why, 745 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: okay why they got a dorm statement here in Dallas, 746 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: but I never knew. But now being out here practice, 747 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: I know for sure I love that roof more every 748 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: single day, especially in September. Okay, I've been waiting for years, 749 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: I think to ask you this, this one particular question. 750 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, here, I've been a huge I've been a 751 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: college football guy for a long long time. You played 752 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: in the championship game that you probably shouldn't even been 753 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: walking after an injury that you suffered this ser final. 754 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: How in the heck did you end up playing in 755 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: that championship game? And then not only that, how did 756 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: you end up making plays in that championship game to 757 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: helping team? Man, that's crazy, I said, asked myself the 758 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: other day, Like I think because I was just younger 759 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: at the time. But at the time I had like 760 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: a toWin MCL and a Toroin label, and that whole 761 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: week I couldn't practice, And I told myself, now I'm 762 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna try to go out. I mean, just a next championship. 763 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: You don't never know when you're gonna get the opportunity 764 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: again to play the next championship. So I ended up going. 765 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: Well that morning, I woke up feeling like kind of straight, 766 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: got a little couple more treatment session, and I said, man, 767 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: I think I can go. They were like sure. I'm 768 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm positive. Man end up going. I didn't 769 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: think I was gonna make no plays. At first. I thought, Okay, 770 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there for my team. Whatever I got, 771 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: I get. But yeah, I ended up making a couple 772 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: of sacks. Then I started during a game, I started 773 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: getting comfortable with it. Um, I know, I was kind 774 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: of gas because I ain't. I ain't play since that 775 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: Oklahoma game, so I was kind of tied. But yeah, 776 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: it was. I asked myself, now, how I went back 777 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: in and played? Still? Yeah, I still don't know. I 778 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: still don't know. I watched you play that night. I'm like, 779 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: he's got a tony mcl that's that's that's weeks almost months, 780 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: and yet you're on the field playing that. Seemingly it's 781 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of the hallmark of your game, your your toughness. 782 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: Violence is a bad word outside of football, but in football, violence, 783 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: violence and toughness will seem to be hallmarks of your game. 784 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: Am I off on that? Oh? Now you're right, you're right. 785 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: You know, man, if something hurting, a little minor thing, 786 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to go. That's I just always had 787 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: that in my head, like it could be worse, you know. 788 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: I always I think my dad learning from my parts. 789 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: If it ain't broke, you're good, you feel mean, like 790 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: if just get up. So I think that stuck with 791 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: me as growing up, like, yeah, if it ain't broke, 792 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: you're good. So it maybe be bruised. You know, we're 793 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna be breus football most toughest sport. It is you're 794 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: gonna be bruised hurt every day. Yeah, that's our job. 795 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's my game. Toughness, play hard and 796 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You and your dad and my dad 797 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: might have been brothers, man, because I would hear that 798 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: all the time. Files on the field at any point 799 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: and be like, get up. I'm like dad, my ankles 800 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: like going that way? Oh man? Okay. I started this 801 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: segment a couple of weeks ago with one of the 802 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: offensive linement's called say something nice about. It's pretty simple concepts. 803 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: Say something nice about Whitney merciless Um, he's the coolest 804 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: og VET I've been around. Yeah, the coolest. Yeah he's 805 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: still act like he not my age, Yeah, but he 806 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: still he still sounds like he's one of the younger guys. 807 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, I've been around them, Vex. Yeah you're a VET. 808 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm a VET. But he's a OG yeah so 809 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: og Okay. You know he's been in the game on 810 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: ten plus years. You know, I've been around you know, 811 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: I said, I've been around some savvys vets, you know, 812 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: some leaders like Kyle Wins and all those guys. You know, 813 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: with he's a VET, he's still gonna lead, but he 814 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 1: still got that playful in it, the lad crack jokes. 815 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: And that's why I like about with Man. That's why 816 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: I called og with. Say something nice about Jacob mark Um, 817 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: So he's a vet. He's not no gee, he's a vet. 818 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He's a vested vet. Yes, um, 819 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, I could say nice, I got one. I 820 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: got one for you, cross chop. Yeah, that's why I 821 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: was thinking that too. Yeah. Oh yeah, lethal cross shop. 822 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, that's when we know Jacobin for coross chopping. 823 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, say something nice about probably a guy 824 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: you faced before, Larry tunsil Man. Oh problem, got the 825 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: best in the game. Yeah, say something nice about South 826 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: Carolina gan Cocks boompciate so funny follow up. I hit 827 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: stop on the record right at that moment, and right 828 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: as I did, Shack was telling me the story that 829 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: when he was at Clemson, he had some friends on 830 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: a South Carolina basketball team and he was wishing them luck. 831 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: So he tweeted out at some point, Hey, wishing my 832 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: guys love Gamecock basketball, whatever, and he said he got 833 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed by the people at Clemson. And I get it. 834 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: I get it you wish good luck to your rival. 835 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: The fans and followers of that particular school are probably 836 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna bean note too happy. But there were a lot 837 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: of them like, yo, what are you doing? And so 838 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: we had a long discussion as we were walking off 839 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: the field about that, about how weird that must be 840 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: that you grow up with these guys, someonem are your 841 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: great friends, and then one goes to Texas, one goes 842 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: to Texas AM and all of a sudden you might 843 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: love each other because you grew up with one another, 844 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: But man, I mean, you can't publicly support that particular person. 845 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: They have that person what they and am everybody expects 846 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: you to hate that. I mean, it's it's kind of interesting. 847 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: And Clemson South Carolina is as bitter as any rivalry 848 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: you're going to Fine Florida, Florida State, Clemson, South Carolina, 849 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: Auber Alabama, Texas, Texas, A and M they are bitter, 850 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: bitter rivals. So it all makes sense in some way, 851 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: shape or formance kind of the way I feel about 852 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: people from Harvard. But that's a whole different story for 853 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: another time. Big thanks to Dino Vasso, Greg Jackson, to 854 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: Danny Barrett, to Drew Doherty to Mark Vandamir dep City 855 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: to Carmen Vitality to Shack Lawson, to all of you 856 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: for listening. Thank you so much. We will see you 857 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow and as always, go Texas,