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Speaker 1: And welcome to the latest edition of Giants Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff live here on Giants dot Com. Howard Cross back

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Speaker 1: in the house. Howard, how are we doing? I'm great?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I am doing very well as we

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Speaker 1: are nearing the first preseason game, So Howard and I

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Speaker 1: will get ahead and look towards the Cleveland Browns game

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Speaker 1: here at MetLife Stadium on Thursday. Will also go over

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Speaker 1: was recently released, the unofficial depth chart. We should emphasize

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Speaker 1: two zero one three is the telephone number hashtag Giants

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Speaker 1: Chat on Twitter. So how would you have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to review practice today? A lot of young guys getting opportunities,

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Speaker 1: especially the young wide receivers. What were some of the

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Speaker 1: things that stood out to you with respect to today's practice.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty cool to watch some practice

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Speaker 1: to get everybody kind of going. You know that the

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Speaker 1: stars are gonna probably gonna play. Teams are moved into

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Speaker 1: this new era of you know, keep your starts off

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Speaker 1: the field until you need them in the regular season. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's still football, and still don't understand that. But different generations,

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Speaker 1: different generations, But it's good to see you know the

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Speaker 1: coach is not a lot of screaming and yelling. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That means the guys were getting to get you know,

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Speaker 1: getting their assignments down, which is a good thing. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how the defense plays when

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll be moving from special teams what they're trying

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Speaker 1: that they've been kind of stuck behind the starters, getting

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Speaker 1: very short week getting ready for a game. You have

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Speaker 1: two or three days to getting ready, like you get

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Speaker 1: bad after the practice. Tomorrow will be more callouts in personnel,

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Speaker 1: but this is really their last their practice. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how much these guys can retain

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Speaker 1: and put into action and execute on Thursday night. And

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Speaker 1: then it's a quick turnaround in terms of returning to

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Speaker 1: practice even after the game. It's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: than a normal regular season week. Howard to your point,

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Speaker 1: where you have a little bit more leeway, flexibility and structure,

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Speaker 1: and you have recovery time after the game. The way

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Speaker 1: training camp works. They played Thursday I mean, they gotta

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Speaker 1: get right back to work in the midst of things.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, it's all these the new technology, the

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Speaker 1: new the new thought patterns, all this stuff. I get it,

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Speaker 1: I understand it. But it's you know, I tell people

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Speaker 1: all the time, like a dairy farmer gets up milks

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Speaker 1: cows seven days a week, twice a day, the cows

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Speaker 1: will never stopping. Yeah, there's no for the milk program. Hey, hey, Betsy,

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Speaker 1: and have a recovery day. It's no recovery day for Betsy,

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Speaker 1: Bets Bets. It shows up every day. And I think

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Speaker 1: that I think that we've moved to this thing because

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Speaker 1: we uh politely. We we believe that we're protecting our

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Speaker 1: you have to box, you have to do some sparring

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Speaker 1: in order to fight, and they're gonna do a little

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Speaker 1: in the next collective partament agreement whenever that comes up,

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Speaker 1: you know, Saturday, Friday, Saturday, Friday Saturday instead of Thursday

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Speaker 1: of Friday afternoon or Saturday and practice and it's a

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Speaker 1: well and haven't reflect more of what goes on in

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Speaker 1: I think they made the call for like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: Like that's great, But there are the guys who are

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Speaker 1: So he's like that. Alough, when it when it's time

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Speaker 1: I know what people do in the real world. I

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Speaker 1: see them every day working. This is a fantasy world.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun doing it. We put it.

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Speaker 1: We put a little stress on our bodies. But as

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Speaker 1: we put in stress in my body, were getting paid

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Speaker 1: well to do it. So let's go have some fun. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you. The other aspect of this

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Speaker 1: And already we're hearing about, well, you know, how much

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Speaker 1: do you put Oldell Beckham out there given the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's coming off the season ending ankle injury, or

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Speaker 1: how many reps do you give Sae Kwon Barkley progressively

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Speaker 1: It's more about, Hey, my job is to play this game.

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Speaker 1: I should be playing this game. At my high I

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Speaker 1: learned more from being on the field playing physically than

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Speaker 1: all those games in. Get hurt in preseason, it's just

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Speaker 1: But people are like, well, you know he's receiving. You

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Speaker 1: there's a big gap between wanting to play and everything

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Speaker 1: what I bring up all the time, Howard. Injuries are

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. Well, we're more educated now

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Speaker 1: and our athletes look better. I hear they're bigger, stronger, faster,

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Speaker 1: both Jackson and other guys. Yeah, we we make this up.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to your phone calls here in a second.

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Speaker 1: One other thing I want to go over before we

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Speaker 1: open up the phone lines. The Giant did release an

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Speaker 1: unofficial depth chart yesterday, Howard, and everybody obviously loves to

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Speaker 1: read into it. Oh, this guy's listed on the front.

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Speaker 1: This guy is on the third line. What exactly does

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Speaker 1: this mean? I don't think there were any major surprises.

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Speaker 1: That should not surprise anybody. He's received most of the

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Speaker 1: then the other thing that's interesting, Howard, compared to what

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Speaker 1: we saw under Ben McAdoo, they list this as a

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Speaker 1: Kickoff Life. How we doing, Warren? How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: Couple day, A real quick couple of things I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about because I've been able to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Um uh. They were talking about our first take today

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Speaker 1: that the Giants are trying to pay all their lesson

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Speaker 1: with Sammy Watkins made and I hope as as a

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Speaker 1: fall you know, importance of honestly, because we do need

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Speaker 1: Alldale back home. And then you know, would be really

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Speaker 1: worse if like the Cowboy, like I hear the Cowboys receivers,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for to even get a separation from like

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Speaker 1: like non starting corner. They're going to get the practice

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if Odell became a free

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Speaker 1: agent and the Cowboys and then also um the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and the offensive line looked better been last year's offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Like like, did you see an improvement from last year?

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Speaker 1: I know it's hard to tell right now because we're

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Speaker 1: in the beginning stage and stuff like that. Well, your

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Speaker 1: first question number one, Remember there's always the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: in terms of Adell Beckham's contracts. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: think we're getting really ahead of ourselves. God forbid if

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Speaker 1: he hits free agency, went you have tools under the

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Speaker 1: cb A In terms of the offensive line. I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell a lot more once we see actually

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Speaker 1: some of these preseason games. But you know, I've said

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Speaker 1: this multiple times on the program. Pat Shermer has really

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Speaker 1: loved the competition that he sees at that spot. Nate

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Speaker 1: Soldier has been battling Olivier Vernon every single day in practice,

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Speaker 1: and Eric Flowers is still transitioning to the right side,

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Speaker 1: but he's also going at it with a number of

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Speaker 1: pass rushers that have there. And then you take it

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Speaker 1: to get erration. Patrick o'mamy, who's another new arrival at

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Speaker 1: the guard position. You know this is a brand new

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Speaker 1: offensive line, Howard. There's a lot of new faces that

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Speaker 1: were not near or the picture at all in terms

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Speaker 1: of last season. So just from a personnel standpoint, that

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Speaker 1: drastically changed. Definitely, go ahead, go ahead, real quick. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: one more question. Also, does David's webb look better than

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Speaker 1: Ryan asked us? Because I remember hand Ryan Nast it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be the feature and I remember Needa markis

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Speaker 1: that I support him. I used to be a huge

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Speaker 1: fan of them. But I really want to know, is

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Speaker 1: David's webb looked better than what Ryan nastes as well?

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll get into that, Ward, We'll let you go

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Speaker 1: on that note, and let's address the offensive line first

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get into David's webb. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into that, Howard, and appreciate the phone call. Ward, definitely better.

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Speaker 1: You know what sold us out there on the outside

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Speaker 1: on the left. You know you're bringing a new card.

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Speaker 1: Uh you slide? Uh. This seems to be an angry

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Speaker 1: big kid, good kid, honestly angry. No, but he's built,

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Speaker 1: he's got a presence. He wants to get after it.

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Speaker 1: You got the centers who there's a nice battle there,

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Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I think Jones did a

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Speaker 1: great job last year, but I think they're going with

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Speaker 1: a bigger body. I think a bigger body with skills

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Speaker 1: that understands what's going on. That you know, Jones is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great player that they can fit into

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Speaker 1: a lot of spots, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: close he's gonna he's gonna be that guy. So then

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Speaker 1: you get all the way over to the right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Now what fans are thinking about that they're following Flowers

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Speaker 1: around trying to figure out what kind of player he's

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Speaker 1: going to be. Right now, he's battling for a position himself.

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Speaker 1: Like Flowers moves the right tackle the way you described it.

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Speaker 1: He's fitting in the right tackle the way that that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna look at it is. They're guys gunning for

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Speaker 1: the right tackle spot. They're like, okay, well if you

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Speaker 1: didn't do that, well maybe I can get him this year.

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Speaker 1: And there are guys behind him like they they love him.

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Speaker 1: Their buddies are all in the locker room and it's

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Speaker 1: they're all in there the officive line room together. They're

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Speaker 1: looking at him going like, all right, that may be

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Speaker 1: my chance to get Yeah. So he's got a hold

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Speaker 1: off all these guys and have a good game up front,

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Speaker 1: and you know, get in on many games as possible.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see will he play in

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Speaker 1: this first game and how much he plays, because he's

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Speaker 1: a guy and he's top proved something, and he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that I would think needs as many reps at

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Speaker 1: right tackle. To Howard, well, I don't. I think for me,

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Speaker 1: I played could be in a tight end. You go

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Speaker 1: on both side, of course, and pay for both. I

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Speaker 1: had never thought. I never could figure out that whole

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Speaker 1: you know, playing right tackle versus left tackle. What was

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Speaker 1: the big deal? Uh? One guy supposed to be more

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Speaker 1: athletic than together. I'm like, okay, well just change your stands.

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Speaker 1: But I guess it is a big deal. So it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see if it's a big deal

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Speaker 1: to him, the footwork and so forth. It's interesting you

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Speaker 1: brought that up because when Hal Hunter, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach Howard spoke to the media, they were looking for

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Speaker 1: the reporters some type of an analogy to explain what

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Speaker 1: it's like moving from left to right, and the way

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Speaker 1: he explained it was it was as if you are

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Speaker 1: a left handed person, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you gotta start writing with your right hand. That's the

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Speaker 1: analogy that he utilized. I will I will have to

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Speaker 1: go with the coaches analogy because again, playing tight end,

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Speaker 1: we had to play both sides of the line from

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Speaker 1: an inline blocking standpoint and past. But you were regularly

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Speaker 1: preparing for both sides. Yeah, whereas if you're a left tackle,

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Speaker 1: you're probably not getting nearly as many reps at right

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Speaker 1: during the course of the week. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, again, yeah, well it you know, it

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Speaker 1: varies based on situation. We can't use generics. Not every

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Speaker 1: team does it the same way. In fairness, I look

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Speaker 1: at it as I look at it as um. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at a good college team has a

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Speaker 1: good offensive line, all of a sudden, a kid that

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Speaker 1: they thought was going to be a guard, they slide

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Speaker 1: him out to kick a guy over, to get the

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Speaker 1: best five guys, they keep rotating them. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: we pay guys to be a specific specialty a left tackle,

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Speaker 1: a right tackle, left guard, a right guard, a center.

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Speaker 1: But in college they do almost all positions when they're

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Speaker 1: playing on the offensive line. That's why I'm saying I'm

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Speaker 1: listening to it now. But now that he's making money,

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Speaker 1: like people were saying, well, maybe he can move into guard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's guard so much different than playing right tackle, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's what you know? You still gotta bend your knees,

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Speaker 1: you still gotta get low, you still gotta make your play. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what coaches saying, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: But my thing about it is he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: have to have to you know, get better at this game, um,

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Speaker 1: every step of the way. It's not just going to

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Speaker 1: be it's not just going to be that he moved over.

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Speaker 1: It's not just going to be that he was the

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Speaker 1: first round pick. He's going to prepare himself to get

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Speaker 1: better at what he was doing. The entire time. He

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Speaker 1: looked great or it looked really good. His rookie year

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Speaker 1: fell off a little bit and got a little ankle

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Speaker 1: injury people don't talk about play play, play through a

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Speaker 1: lot of pain and stuff, and then just had a

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Speaker 1: you know, a tougher year to follow you. But now

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Speaker 1: he moves over. If he's healthy, this is his chance

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Speaker 1: to Hey, it's a little by himself a spot and

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Speaker 1: you know, for no better term, like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to wish this on the Giants, but if he solidifies

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Speaker 1: the spot, he has a great year. All of a

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Speaker 1: sudden his contracts up and this contracts up, do the

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Speaker 1: Giants pay him r do they figure out that? Does

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Speaker 1: he figure out a way to get out of here?

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Speaker 1: So that that's all business part of the game. Depending

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Speaker 1: on how he performs will obviously indicate what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with his future beyond this season. And I think right

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Speaker 1: now the main theme is the Giants coaching staff is

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Speaker 1: just trying to promote versatility. They're moving offensive linemen around,

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Speaker 1: as Howard alluded to, John Jerry's got in reps at

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Speaker 1: right tackle. He's normally been a guard throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of his career. The centers working in and out, so that, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been a big theme. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to David's webbing a little bit. I know that was

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Speaker 1: one of the questions from the previous caller. In the meantime, though,

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Speaker 1: let's head back to the lines up. Duel is in Minnesota, Dual,

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Speaker 1: what's happening here? What you got for us? I can't

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Speaker 1: remember being this uh interested in the first preseason game

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Speaker 1: was like the season. Um, but I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to see how much this team has improved, were at

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Speaker 1: least changed. Um Uh. That being said, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: have two months patients for the offense coming out slow.

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Speaker 1: The past three years we've heard, hey, it's only the offseason,

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Speaker 1: don't get too worried, and the offense didn't get better.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really hope, I'm hopefully that this time around

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Speaker 1: will come out a little faster out of the gate.

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Speaker 1: I know it's preseason, I know it's a new system,

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Speaker 1: I know it's new players, but I just don't have

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Speaker 1: the patience for the offense once again looking like it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's stuck in mud for you know, the first

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Speaker 1: four games and you know that kind of stuff. So well, dull.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done studies in terms of preseason production versus

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Speaker 1: regular season production, but I don't know if all the

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Speaker 1: teams that have had success in the regular season had

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Speaker 1: tremendous preseason. So my point is, I get it. You

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Speaker 1: want to see them get into the end zone in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. You want to see the offense move the football,

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Speaker 1: but you know they also they're not going to spill

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Speaker 1: the beans and they're not gonna show you everything because

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Speaker 1: they only want so many things. But last year, remember

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Speaker 1: everyone's saying, don't worry about it's the first time because

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Speaker 1: they don't worry about it the second game, don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it a third game, don't worry about the first week.

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, it's kind of like, I understand

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I get it. I know it

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Speaker 1: is a piece. But I just hope that this offense

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Speaker 1: gets together faster than has the fast years. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, I think they'll do do a lot better.

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Speaker 1: You have to also taking consideration what you were looking at.

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Speaker 1: You looking at a team that star player was was

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Speaker 1: banged up right out right out of the bat. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was coming off an ankle injury or something. Uh,

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Speaker 1: You're you're looking at an offensive line that was rotating

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Speaker 1: guys constantly. I don't think they're the same five guys

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Speaker 1: until the last four games of the season. Uh, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get together. If they get were like, if

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Speaker 1: everybody gets healthy, it's gonna be okay. And then O'Dell

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Speaker 1: goes down, another I goes down, and another guy goes down.

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Speaker 1: It's just and then he lies out there, you know,

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Speaker 1: dodging bullets and taking hits and doing that. When when

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Speaker 1: you see a guy to do a push up and

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Speaker 1: get up and so just pop up, that's when you

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Speaker 1: know where the art. He was doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: push ups last year. His arms look good. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just happens. You know, we just kept getting you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a horrible year. I get it. So I'm started

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Speaker 1: for the seasons, all right. Do appreciate the phone call,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. People look at it and they you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. Like coach Coplin came in years

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Speaker 1: ago and goes like, I'm like, I'm gonna fix all

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Speaker 1: the injuries. I'm like, okay, I want to see that.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't my magic wand and uh you called Baltimore

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Speaker 1: like so. But he figured out a way to win

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Speaker 1: two super Bowls in ten years. But that's one of

639
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: the things you gotta There's gotta be an element of

640
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: luck in all this. To keep these guys healthy through

641
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: a season. They has to certainly be that. The ball

642
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: has to bounce your way. And the other part of

643
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: it is if you have great depth, Howard, I mean,

644
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that goes a long way. Look at the Eagles last year.

645
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I bring them up constantly, Philadelphia. What people tend to

646
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: forget Howard the Eagles team that won the Super Bowl. Yes,

647
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Nick Foles helped them win it, but they didn't just

648
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: lose their quarterback, Howard. They lost Jason Peters, their left tackle.

649
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: They lost two middle linebackers, they lost the starting kicker,

650
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: danren Sproles at the running back position, laundry list of players.

651
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Yet they didn't miss a beat because the second and

652
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: third players stepped in and the level of production remained

653
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: even well, you know they did, but they also had

654
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: like they figured out a way to get a bunch

655
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: of quality players in. Like when you're struggling and your

656
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: first team is struggling and all of a sudden you're

657
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: pushing guys up before they're quite ready, you gotta figure

658
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: some stuff out. These guys went down a few weeks

659
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: in giving guys some some time to learn some slip,

660
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: some plays, and some term monology. They've gotten through an

661
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: entire camp with the with the starting office line ready,

662
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and then guys started to pop out. When you get

663
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 1: through the entire camp with the entire defense together, then

664
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: guys started to pop out those guys have seen those plays,

665
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: seeing those shraps, and they're kind of ready to go.

666
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: But you can't just pick up that second group of

667
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: guys because you're like, Okay, well, we just need somebody

668
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: to back us up. Like, no, you're gonna have guys

669
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: that can show up, and they have a lot of

670
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: guys that can do that. Choose your one four or five.

671
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: One three is the telephone number. Jake is incotoning to Jake.

672
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: What's happening? Hey, guys, how are you? I'm doing well, Jake?

673
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: How's everything with you? What do you got for us? Good? Um? So,

674
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm glad you guys earlier touched on the

675
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: twelve offense because I think that's awesome. I mean, you

676
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: look at like a New England or um Kansas City

677
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: and you can really see what the benefit of having

678
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: a strong like strength at the tight end position is.

679
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: And I think the Giants quietly have one of the

680
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: better tight end situations in the league with Evan Ingram

681
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: and Red Ellison. Um, I mean, I can't say enough

682
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: about Evan Ingram. Guys have done. And Red Allison is

683
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: the kind of guy who kind of pops in you,

684
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: kind of you almost forget about him for a minute,

685
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: and then pops in with a clutch touchdown or a

686
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: first down You're like, oh, yeah, that guy's great. Um. So,

687
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: my first I wanted to ask about if you've seen

688
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: any I mean, I know it's hard to tell with

689
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: practices being you know, not definitely not the same as

690
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: like live game situations, but have you seen improvement in

691
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's blocking at all? Well, I've watched him a

692
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: few times just today, but again not a padded practice day,

693
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of dancing out there with

694
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: the short zone and helmets. But I think last year

695
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was a decent blocker. I think that

696
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: people should have been surprised at the fact that he

697
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: was able to get in and mix it up. It

698
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of plays coming off where his guy

699
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: was running free. He's a willing and enabled body, so

700
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to get in and be part of that

701
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: part of the game. I don't think that he came

702
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: from Old miss where they ran the ball pretty well

703
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: and they used him as a blocker. Uh. He caught

704
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: himself out there sometimes on a big defensive end, and

705
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: he knew he knows that battle. He is a fight

706
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: when he gets on the edge. So I'm not really

707
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: worried about it his ability to block. I mean, I'm

708
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: just interested in seeing how they incorporated two tits out

709
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: out as It's gonna be really interested to see how

710
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: they twelve personal too. They could be you know, actual

711
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: twelve one tight end in the back. They have a

712
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: lot of options now if they have these guys and

713
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: you know there's a couple of other young guys back

714
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: behind them that you know they're they're gonna be like

715
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: a Girell Adams who has a big opportunity this season.

716
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: And what I would add to what Howard Zaid Jake

717
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: is you know em and Ingram if he's moved around

718
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: and he has another tight end on the field more

719
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: often within them last season, there's gonna be things that

720
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: he's asked to do this year that he was not

721
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: asked to do last year. And he also, I think

722
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: has a much better understanding of football overall because he

723
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: was put in circumstances last year when he was out

724
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: wide as a wide receiver because they lost all their

725
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: white outs and he wasn't even playing conven 'll tight end. Yeah,

726
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: I think the only tough thing for for Ingram is

727
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: is that it's a brand new system. And I think

728
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: that you know, he was a rookie last year learning

729
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: a new system coming out of college, and wow, he

730
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: did pretty well. Now he's gonna come in here his

731
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: coach is gone and there's a new coach and a

732
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: new system, and he's gotta learn it again. It's like

733
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: so for him, it's like the three systems in two years.

734
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very incidency how he gets through

735
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: and how quickly he adapts. But I believe you'll be

736
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: a guy that picks it up pretty quick. He's a

737
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: got a smart football mind. Yeah, I agree. Um, And

738
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: I had a quick thought on so um depending on

739
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: how we want to use red alson Obviously, like you mentioned,

740
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: he used a fullback over in Minnesota. Um, when he

741
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: when in blocking situations, do you think it's gonna over

742
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll probably will probably see him all over

743
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: the field, But do you think overall it would make

744
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: more sense having him kind of bolstering the left side

745
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: since that hels blindside or is he gonna do better?

746
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Maybe Rban would it be better to have him on

747
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: the right where maybe Flowers need some help. I think

748
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be a little bit of both. You

749
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: gotta remember the Sake one is an exceptional blocker coming

750
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. That was one of the big, big,

751
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: big surprises. When you're watching him play at Penn State. Uh,

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: they sent a blitzer heat stone him, stone them cold,

753
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: so you know they're gonna be paying attention to that. UM.

754
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: I would think that when when you're thinking about pass rushers,

755
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: the pass rush, I would say early on is gonna

756
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: come to try the whole Sake One in the backfield.

757
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: They don't want him to get out and get out

758
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: and running routes because you don't want that guy out

759
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: in space. So that that's gonna leave both tackles are

760
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot less stress on them because they're

761
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: gonna try to figure out ways to to keep the

762
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: full to keep the running back in the backfield. That's

763
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: that would be my if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm

764
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: looking at the Giants, I'm like, Okay, so now the

765
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: guy guys catch the ball all the backfield. That means

766
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: how far back we have to go? Will they look

767
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: back as far as Tiki? And that's when Tiki was

768
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: like running all over the field, and they were getting

769
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: the ball to him every time, like and he actually

770
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: could block in the backfield. The only way to prevent

771
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: him from catching the ball is to send him blitzer,

772
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: make him have to pick him up. If he has

773
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: to pick him up, then you're safe. If he's checking

774
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: hot and you're sending that blitzer, then you get a

775
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: hope that somebody can come up and make a tackle.

776
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: So that's it's gonna be very interesting to see how

777
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: defense is defense, you know, the back If he's gonna

778
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: pick up things right away, is he gonna be asked

779
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: to protect the blindside of the quarterback right away, or

780
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: is he gonna be out of the backfield, which release

781
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: all pressure from the quarterback because no one's going to

782
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: come running up if they got to cover the kid

783
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. And Jake appreciate the phone call,

784
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Awayning, And I think that's a great

785
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: point the dynamics of say Kwan Barkley, because I mean,

786
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Howard. You look at Christian McCaffrey, Alvin

787
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: Camaro last year the Panthers in his Saints, they caught

788
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: over eighty balls. So you've got to think that way.

789
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: If you're a defensive coordinator that the Giants are gonna

790
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: want to dump it down to him a few times

791
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: per game, Well, you gotta think here's here's here's a

792
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: scenario that that you're looking at. You're gout. Okay, last year,

793
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: we could rush the passer with four guys and we

794
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: can put everybody out in coverage. Now, if we leave

795
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: four guys up there and they block them up, this

796
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: kid's gonna be running through the gut of our defense.

797
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna get five to eight yards and he might

798
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: break it and take it to the hounds. So I

799
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: gotta squeeze another guy nown so, and now I got

800
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: seven guys kind of holding in. Maybe the age guys

801
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: sneaking up. Well, the age guy's gotta be the spy

802
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: guy to be on the running back because you never

803
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: know is he gonna come off as he gonna block,

804
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: Where's he gonna go the moment you bring that eighth

805
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: guy in. Now, all of a sudden, you're one on

806
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: one on the outside and you leave a linebacker one

807
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: on one with you're tight end, and you if you

808
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: have a Yeah, there's there's nightmares all over the field.

809
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: It just depends now how they try to attack Secran Barkley.

810
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: Are you going to be able to like like what

811
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: they did with Zeke. Are you able to hold him

812
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: into backfield and forcing the block, or you're gonna be

813
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: trying to chase him out in the edge because you're

814
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: dumping the ball to him out in space. That's a

815
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: that's a problem that you don't want because if you're

816
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: the Giants, you want those mismatches, and that's what you're

817
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: trying to play into. Let's head back to the lines.

818
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: We got Jason in Maine. Jason, welcome to the program.

819
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Hey, guys, how are

820
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: you Jason? How things with you? What do you got good?

821
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: I got questions for both of you guys. Um for Howard,

822
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just wondering, Uh, preseason games. If you're

823
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: an established veteran and you you probably know your job

824
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: is pretty secure. How do you guys take preseason games?

825
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Is it hard to get up for the games or what? Like?

826
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: What's your mindset towards that part of the year. Well,

827
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: the world, the world is different than when I played, uh,

828
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: and not kind of I kind of feel like an

829
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: old man when I say this when I played Bavaro

830
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: and Zeke mowat where the where the tight ends and

831
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: we argued for plays for snaps. We constantly like no

832
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: one wanted me into on the field, like I'm begging

833
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: them to let me on. The coaches like you gotta

834
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: get in there if you're gonna make the team. So

835
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: that was different then like when the preseason games came,

836
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: if I got in like in the third quarter or

837
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, I would not leave the field. I

838
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: don't care. I'd run every special team. Do you need

839
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: me to play defense? I'm not coming out the field

840
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: for no reason because I'm only gonna give reps. These reps.

841
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: So I was always excited to play. As I got

842
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: older and became a veteran, I like playing because it

843
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: got me ready for the season. I trained like crazy

844
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: to getting ready to go. I stressed myself out and like, okay,

845
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: now I need to put all this work in the practice.

846
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Let me see. And I had a bunch of different coaches.

847
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I started out with Bill for two years. Bill Leaves,

848
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: you got Ray Handy for two years, Gray Leaves, You

849
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: got Dan Reeves for four years. Dan Leaves, I got Fastile.

850
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: So I kept getting new coaches, and not only did

851
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I getting new coaches, I kept getting new offensive coordinators

852
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: and they were changing faster than they head coaches, so

853
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: systems were changing. So I was constantly learning and doing

854
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: something new, and I was always excited and wanted to see, Okay,

855
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: can I put this to practice? How is this gonna work?

856
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: I want to just say, Okay, coach, I don't think

857
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. And if I said it in practice

858
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: is just do what I told you, didn't go in

859
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: the game and do it the way that I want

860
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: it done, and if it worked out, he goes like, yeah,

861
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: we should start doing it like that. I like that that.

862
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, we would work on you just but you

863
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: use the games as a lesson. Basically, you needed to

864
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: be able to to do it. If you couldn't do it.

865
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: There were things like the angle that you that you

866
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: blocked the guys at. I'm like, yeah, if you if

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: you're down that low, you can't see your target and

868
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: all you just do is move or pull you down.

869
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: There were games where I'm like, that's holding. They're gonna

870
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: call that like you can't do that, or and they're

871
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: like where, like how did you like just stay with

872
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, like and I would because and I the

873
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: guys would go over like I can't believe I gotta

874
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: play in the preseason, like all right, you have a

875
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: good game, Like how are like you're not coming out

876
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: and coaches will like get out of the game. I'm like,

877
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: let the kids in, Like that'll be all right, I'll

878
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: figure out you just you just had it. I had

879
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to do it that. I think I think the world

880
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: today because, like I said last and I were talking

881
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: about this earlier, I'm listening to people talk about things

882
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: that they've never done, and then they're passing judgment on

883
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: what they should be doing. I could never sit here

884
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: and we could have a radio show about knee surgery

885
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: or brain surgery. I have no idea what the doctor

886
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: is doing in there. I don't even like blood, so like,

887
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: so I can't tell a doctor what to do. I

888
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: can't tell a soldier what to do when he goes out.

889
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: I can't tell anyone what to do. Did I'm not

890
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: doing their job. And most of the people who are

891
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: talking about it, if they've never done it and this

892
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: is their opportunity to talk, or they've done it and

893
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings when they're talking

894
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: about it, like, but the reality of it is, you

895
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: should want to play all the time, and when you

896
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: don't want to play, go home. Stop playing. It's it's fun.

897
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: This is a game. They're paying you to play, a

898
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: game like they anytime we get a chance to play

899
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: with those other colored jerseys, I can go full spee. Okay,

900
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean let's go, let's go get him. And then

901
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: like guys like I don't want to play the preseason,

902
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, you won't be here long. I should tell

903
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: guys all around I'd be home working out because I

904
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: had those a regiment. I'd go home to Alabama and

905
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: the heat and work out and do stuff. And I

906
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: would catch guys that were from my town or something

907
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: that were in the NFL, and They're like, I'm a

908
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: sucking round pick. I'm like, oh, that's awesome. He where

909
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: are you going? Well, I got gym this morning when

910
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: it's cool, I'm gonna get out and do some running

911
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, gonna play golf later in the day.

912
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: I said, probably have to golf on r I get

913
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: some basketball there to night. Dude, you need to rest

914
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: your body. You're gonna wear yourself out. I'm like, hopefully

915
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: I'll see you next year and then a second gonna

916
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: make the team. You know, I would give him grief

917
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: like it was all about training and getting to go.

918
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: And you know, you work in the office of the desk.

919
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: I sit there something like Okay, I'm sitting at this desk.

920
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: This good staring at this guy. Okay, all right, all right, okay,

921
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I gotta look this up. And you have something to do.

922
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Tab has to do. It's awesome. Give you friend. When

923
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: you don't have something to do and you gotta do research.

924
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hate research, but you gotta do it,

925
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: like reading contracts or stuff like, okay, that is ninety pages.

926
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: They don't even have that many, squiffing, so what you

927
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: gotta do that stuff? So it's very interesting how it does. Like,

928
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: but that's your job. You like football. I tell like again,

929
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: sun reference, I'm like, no one cannot work you because

930
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: you're working for you. If someone out works you, then

931
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: that means they wanted what you have more than you did.

932
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: So go get it, like, don't don't worry about all

933
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: the other stuff. Accolades, pats on the back, Go get it.

934
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: If something doesn't work while you're playing, learn from it,

935
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: like it's not a failure, it's a teaching moment like

936
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: you have like every time something happens that feels your laboratory,

937
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: you're creating greatness. What are you gonna do that? Blue? Okay,

938
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: we won't do that again. You just figure things out well.

939
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: And what you just mentioned, also, Howard, is a reflection

940
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: of sometimes why maybe less talented players last longer and

941
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: have lengthy careers because of their work ethic. That no, no,

942
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: I was not in situating that. I think you had

943
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: the combination of both worlds hours no no, no, no no.

944
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: But when I when I think of when I think

945
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: of elite tight ends, your name comes up impedingly. Okay,

946
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're talking about. Howard Witten.

947
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: While ago, you know he's doing call the game myself.

948
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: He's open. Now someone should be covering him, like it's

949
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: so bad to see him miss the third down when

950
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: it gave to his play day. What else you got

951
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: for us, Jason? Okay? Yeah, And I think Howard should

952
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: give the pregame speech this coming week. That would be

953
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: I'd hang around for that one too. Yeah, alright, Jason,

954
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. Yes, if you can give us,

955
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: like the the the cut down schedule for the preseason,

956
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: like I think is the first one after the first

957
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: two games or something like that. Can you just give

958
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: us a summary of that and I'll take it off

959
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the air. Thanks you gotta Jason appreciate the phone call.

960
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna look those specific dates up because i

961
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: know that they made some tweaks after last year in

962
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: terms of initially it used to be one big major cut,

963
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: then it was in pieces, and then they obviously have

964
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: changed the structure. So we'll definitely get to that. I

965
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: just want to try to squeeze in as many phone

966
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: calls as possible as we look up that information, and

967
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: I'll definitely pass it on to you. Carl Is in Syracuse. Carl,

968
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: what's happening, Hi, Howard high Lance? How we do a call?

969
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: What do you got for a lance? I got a lance.

970
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: I gotta it in there that you sound nothing like John.

971
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: Let's clear that up. Well. I have been saying that

972
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: my entire life, so I'm glad that you agree with that.

973
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: We've had a few people way in say otherwise, I

974
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: don't know where they're getting that from but I'm glad

975
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: that you are in agreement with me. So I know,

976
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: I know it's only the first uh you know, team

977
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: published depth chart, so everything's very fluid. But I've noticed

978
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: that Shane Smith was way down on the running back

979
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: up chart. Um. But then I've seen articles about how

980
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: Shane Smith is is developing a chemistry with Sequon Barkley

981
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: and they're using a lot of fullback. Um. What are

982
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Shane Smith making the roster and how

983
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: much they're using him. Well, first of all, Shane Smith

984
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: is listed on the depth chart. He's under hb okay,

985
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: so he's not even listed as a fullback. They don't

986
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: have a fullback listed, and they don't necessarily put him

987
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: in as a tight end, which they were sort of

988
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: listing him initially on the roster. As far as what

989
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: he could bring to the table, to me, it depends

990
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: on if they look at Rehet Ellison as that dual

991
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: tight end fullback. I wonder, Howard if they would then

992
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: ultimately keep an additional fullback or a guy that is

993
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: mainly a fullback if they feel some of the tight

994
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: ends on the roster can service as a fullback out

995
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: of the backfield as well as line up with the

996
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean you got one, two, three, four,

997
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: I think five tight ends in camp four. That's six

998
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: six six tightens and Cancel. We know the three guys,

999
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: like one of the guys specifically can come out of

1000
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: the backfield and block in Ellison. Okay, So you've got

1001
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: the other two tight ends and Adams and in Ingram

1002
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: that can do inline blocking, split out, uh and Adams

1003
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: is going to be a stronger blocker and he can

1004
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: come out of the backfield, especially those players on the edge.

1005
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: So now you gotta figure out, Okay, where does the

1006
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: full back fit in? So the full back is gonna

1007
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: have to like he canna have some excellent opportunities to

1008
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: start making his you know, earn his keep, starting with

1009
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: special teams. He needs to go and have a big

1010
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: showing on Thursday night in the special team category. He'll

1011
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: get into the game probably the third and fourth quarter.

1012
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: If he's in the game, he's got to level some people.

1013
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: He's gotta like take some guys on and I don't

1014
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: know if you can do that these days with the

1015
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: blocking you know, rules and everything, but you gotta go

1016
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: in there and you gotta not missing assignment, be the

1017
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: first guy on, first guy off. You gotta show on film,

1018
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to do with all these

1019
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: tight ends out there playing multiple positions. But if I

1020
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: was a player and I knew that Minnesota historically was

1021
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: a two tight end set, I would, you know, try

1022
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: to get a little inline blocking practice. The problem is

1023
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: he's like six ft one. He's not a six ft three,

1024
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: six ft four guy, which is which puts him in

1025
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: a disavenge in an inline blocking but he's gonna have

1026
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: to do everything else around that to become Now when

1027
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: you say the size, is that because it's it's hard

1028
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: for taller guys to get down, I mean in terms

1029
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: of leverage, is that where that comes into player That's

1030
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: not even an issue with What I'm talking about is

1031
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: at six one, you're playing against the events there maybe

1032
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: six four or six five longer arms coming off the

1033
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: ball when they make contact the extension, there's nothing for

1034
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: you to grab. If your arms are here for leverage

1035
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: and his arms are there, you're gonna be trying to

1036
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: fight his arms as he's jacking you up and walking

1037
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: you back. So you have to be aware of that

1038
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: at that position when you're able to direct contact inline

1039
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: blocking when you're running full speed. To throw a block,

1040
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: that guy doesn't. He has to drop down and drop

1041
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: his shoulder. He takes to take his arms away from him.

1042
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: In an instance, when you're blocking, if you're in line,

1043
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a safety coming down and

1044
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: play over the top of a tight end if they wanted.

1045
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: They see that, they want to run the ball. He

1046
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: sticks his arms out, blocks and extends his arm and

1047
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: the stay is the safety's own wheels. He's on skates.

1048
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Step moment he's going back, he's basically carried him because

1049
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: because you can't the once you once you extend in

1050
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: your hips are extended, you're you're done. And that's what

1051
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: that's what the fear would be with a smaller tight end.

1052
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: That's why you see guys that are smaller, they are

1053
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: out a couple of steps, so they would have to

1054
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: take direct And it's just me speculating as I could

1055
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: be with that h Does he have hands out of

1056
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: the backfield? Can you catch? Well? You talk about Shane Smith, Yeah,

1057
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: Shane Smith has the ability to catch out of the backfield.

1058
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I mean, I don't know if that's

1059
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: has so gonna be a huge aspect of the offense

1060
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: if he makes the roster. But he has that ability,

1061
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing that. I think it's more catches

1062
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: the ball. He was dynamic once he catches head. Because

1063
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: you're running back or a full back, you need to

1064
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: have a little extra field and you're more appealing to

1065
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: be kept on the roster as a result of that,

1066
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: because they figure not only can catch it, you can

1067
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: then maybe gain five or six yards after the catch. Yeah, yeah,

1068
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: will be another fun thing to watch. Um. One more

1069
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: quick thing. Uh is there an update on R J

1070
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: McIntosh's health at this point? The coaching staff hasn't provided

1071
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: any update. I mean at this point they're obviously looking

1072
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: to get him back to full strength and full health,

1073
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: and whenever that comes, they'll make an announcement and the

1074
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: roster will be reflected that way. But no new news

1075
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: on that front. Okay, all right, thank you. You gotta

1076
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. Thanks so much for weighing in.

1077
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Let's head back to the lines. Got big head in Maryland,

1078
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: big head, what's happening? How we doing? You are? I

1079
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: know a long time no here? So let's all right?

1080
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: How are you doing big, Howard. I'm very good, very good.

1081
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. Alright, world champion, Howard, I have to

1082
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: call it world champion, that is, guys. Um. I'm just

1083
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: looking forward to where we got coming new here, with

1084
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: everything about to come together, it looks like we could

1085
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: be doing some really special things. But I just can't

1086
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: talk prematurely because is this this new situation here. So

1087
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: I guess my whole thinking of it is with Giant

1088
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Nation and in listening on it, Um, what do you

1089
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: guys in take on what you've seen thus far? And

1090
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: then what do you think the chances are for this

1091
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: year other than the fact that they need to be healthy? Well, well, yes,

1092
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: I think the first six games is kind of like

1093
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: the murders row of a batting schedule. If they can

1094
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: come out of that, you know, I got a good

1095
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: shot to win the next you know, to win to

1096
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: be a hit ask for that could be have a

1097
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: chance to make a run in the playoffs. But how

1098
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: the o it is is that they got to get

1099
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: through these first Yeah, they're gonna be tested by some

1100
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: really good defenses. I think that's what jumps out to me.

1101
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: And they don't really get a break at the quarterback

1102
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: this season. You know, it's not like you're going up

1103
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: against the team that has some question marks out And

1104
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm bringing up the schedule here, and I brought this

1105
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: up on previous shows. Blake Bortle, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson,

1106
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. That's the first quarter of the season. And

1107
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: then you go into Cam Carson, Wentz, Matt Ryan, and

1108
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, and then you get the box. Yeah. Look,

1109
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: not if he has your school, thought, he stays hungry.

1110
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: If he's had my school, I'll leave you trying to

1111
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: get more money. Uh. Dak Prescott, I think should take

1112
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: a step back. And the reason why I think you

1113
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: should take a step back, there's no Witten as a cushion. Um,

1114
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: he'll have Zeke out there, but there's no winning as

1115
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: a cushion. And Jason Witten was a major cushion in

1116
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: the third down. There's no big, big play guy that's

1117
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna be out there barking for the ball. Is even

1118
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: though Deaz didn't get as many as you want, he

1119
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: was still a threat that had the whole patching it up.

1120
00:54:47,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson back, yeah mine and on the back field,

1121
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: but you have a just Sean Watson. The game is

1122
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: that at New Orleans. New Orleans, Well, then I think

1123
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: you have a you have a better game because they're here.

1124
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: The chances are better, they fared better here. You don't

1125
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: want Yeah, it's been offensive clinic after another, and not

1126
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: not just us, everybody has the big The big thing

1127
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: is when you get down to like the fifth game,

1128
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: it's Carolina. It's again, it's the defense. If you look

1129
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: at it, jacksonvill defense is gonna be good. Dallas's defense

1130
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty good. J J. Watch back that

1131
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: defensive and Clown's gonna have a defense has come around.

1132
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: Or yeah, you got Carolina's defense, and then you got

1133
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles in Atlanta. Those that that's like, like I said,

1134
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: forget the first six. The first seven games are going

1135
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: to be big time quarterbacks. You've got one to three

1136
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: four Pro Bowl quarterbacks in that group. Uh, and you've

1137
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: got guys that are you know, some guys are gonna

1138
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: be really hungry. Feel is gonna come in here. Coach

1139
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: Coughlin has given it me. Uh, whatever he is now,

1140
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: GM Coughlin or whatever, it's gonna be walking around kicking

1141
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: Kansas stuff. When he sees things I mean, you got

1142
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: that guy coming back in here because this guy's he

1143
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: can't tell the coach you think it's me, you're not

1144
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: really hoping you making between the next like next season,

1145
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: like next week, next season, every game the season, he'll

1146
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: be intense. So it's gonna be very interested to see.

1147
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: And there'll be some guys in there that they want

1148
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: to get it done for him, that they believe in

1149
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: him and they want to see it. That's gonna be

1150
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: a good game. And he's built that team through the

1151
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: trenches like he did when he was here. In terms

1152
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: of the defensive line, the offensive line, they brought Andrew

1153
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: Norwell in you signing from Carolina, and then the defensive

1154
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: line is like the Eagles. They've got seven or eight

1155
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: pass rushers that they could easily rotate. Don't forget about

1156
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: that running back letter four days absolutely, and the secondary

1157
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: to that's the line gonna look like who's out? Okay,

1158
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: we got snacks. You gotta live on the finn of edge.

1159
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: We need someone to cover the other edge. Something somebody

1160
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: liked well. They brought in Connor Barwin, and I think

1161
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: that's a player to watch because Barwin, he's had at

1162
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: least five sacks and six of the last seven seasons,

1163
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be his tenth year in the

1164
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: NFL and he's been fairly consistent. So Barwin, I think

1165
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: is a player that you should watch in the preseason

1166
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: and in the early stages of the season where he

1167
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: and Vernon can provide that complementary piece that they need.

1168
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: And then Lorenzo Carter to me, is a name. I mean,

1169
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: the rookie has a huge opportunity to step in day

1170
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: one and if he can showcase the versatility that was

1171
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: there at Georgia, that's another player that I think they

1172
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: expect to progressively grow throughout the course of this season.

1173
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: I think you also have to look at it from

1174
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: a standpoint and a lot of people aren't thinking about

1175
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: it this way. The defense has totally changed from four

1176
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: three to that, from four three to three four. All

1177
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Snacks is an inside guy him and

1178
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be moving guys around, grabbing guys, trying to

1179
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: keep guys off linebackers. Linebackers could run freely. Olier Vernon

1180
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: is essentially a rush line back girl. Uh So that

1181
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: that changed that if he pops out in coverage and

1182
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: he did a couple of times last year and did

1183
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: a good job. But if he does pop out of

1184
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: coverage or you don't want that guy coming from death

1185
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: to hit you because he's a big, fast, strong guy.

1186
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interested in from that standpoint. Remember

1187
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: two years ago when Arizona was competing with with Seattle,

1188
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: when Seattle was good, it was Arizona Seattle battling that

1189
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Arizona defense. Excuse me, the Arizona defense was incredible, was strong.

1190
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're looking very fast with Kyless Campbell,

1191
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: he was a big for them. Yeah, and that's what

1192
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: we're looking at for this defense. We're looking at that

1193
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of that that kind of defense, that kind of scheme.

1194
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: That change to the three four, it's a different look.

1195
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Guys don't practice it. Everything different. Yeah, So it's gonna

1196
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how this pans out. But they

1197
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: got the bodies for it, they got the speed, the edges,

1198
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: they got the guys. They got the two big guys

1199
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: in the middle that they can can clog up the

1200
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: middle and make plays. And you got those guys come

1201
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: off the edges that that's what they do. They rush

1202
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: the passer. It's a good it's an interesting defense. For

1203
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: the standpoint is you can run at those two those

1204
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: two pass rustaurants, but everything else is ugly, so you

1205
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: don't want to You wanna get caught. Yeah yeah, I

1206
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: mean James Bete, he'll get the green light here. Definitely

1207
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: need help in the back. I just had four more

1208
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: words and then I'm gonna go ahead and go, but

1209
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say. First of all, I miss you, guys.

1210
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Everything's okay, Um, tell you how to John and Big

1211
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: PAULI d for me. And then two words speed and

1212
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: versatility on defense and as a whole team. Um, discipline

1213
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: and versatility. That was the thing and key things. But

1214
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: we should have a pretty good preseason first run and

1215
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: then we can figure out what we're gonna do after that.

1216
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, guys, gotta take care. Oh yeah,

1217
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: say what's up to my buddy, some buddy Jeff Feagles. Yes, yes,

1218
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: Mr Figgs. We will definitely pass your regards along by

1219
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: a good hearing from you. Glad to have you back

1220
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: in the mix. And I think versatility is a fair

1221
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: word to describe the offense and the defense thus far.

1222
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: There was a question about roster cutdowns and what happened

1223
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: last year is they wiped out the seventy five man cut.

1224
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: It goes straight from ninety to fifty three. You gotta

1225
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: get your fifty three roster in order by September. It's

1226
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: real simple. They can keep as many guys as they

1227
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: want throughout the preseason. You just gotta get to fifty

1228
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: three by the time September first comes around. So that's

1229
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: the new rule in place, and that's a horrible rule.

1230
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Horrible rule. And the reason why it's a horrible rule

1231
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: because if when you cut down to the seventy five

1232
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: and you and some guys get off your team, they

1233
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: have a chance to get to other teams. Maybe teams

1234
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: are looking at them when you when you cut down

1235
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: from you know, seventy five down, every cut gives guys

1236
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: another opportunity to get into another camp because there are injuries,

1237
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: there are other things going on. When you hold on

1238
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: to the ninety guys until you get the fifty three,

1239
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: then you just shake them up and just kind of

1240
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: kick them out of the bag. And that that's I

1241
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: don't know where they came from, but that is tough. Well,

1242
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: last year, I remember when they made the change, there

1243
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: were teams that held onto them, but they were also

1244
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: teams that they cut them along the way. You know,

1245
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: they didn't necessarily hold on to all nine D for

1246
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: that final preseason game, so they would have opportunities. But

1247
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: I think the logic behind it, Howard was if you

1248
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: remember that final preseason game, is that quick turnaround on

1249
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: that Thursday when the Giant's gonna play the Patriots, and

1250
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: what happens is a lot of coaches they don't want

1251
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: to play their starters. So that's why they'd rather still

1252
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: have a nine D man roster. They're not playing anybody.

1253
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: Those guys don't get reps the whole whole week. It's hard,

1254
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: So again it's whatever. However they did it, I think

1255
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: the real reason they did it wasn't for the last

1256
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: preseason game. I just think that they wanted more bodies

1257
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: to keep guys absolutely and they just didn't want to Okay,

1258
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: if we keep these guys around, So like guys who

1259
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: were coming of the things, you get one or two

1260
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: reps in the practice when you got like fifteen receivers

1261
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: or something, you're not getting a lot of reps. Or

1262
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: Tindeb's you're not getting a lot of reps. So everything

1263
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: becomes more dramatic when you're out there well, and if

1264
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: Howard cross mentalities in front of you, you're never seeing

1265
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: the field because he's never gonna let you on the field.

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Speaker 1: So that's another factor that you have to take it

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Speaker 1: the consideration. We're gotta work on this whole rotation of

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Speaker 1: players now there is no rotation. I'll get all the ones,

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Speaker 1: and I'll get a couple of the twos, and then

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Speaker 1: i'll get one three alight, and I'll leave you with

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Speaker 1: the leftovers. Yeah, you could divide the fours amongst yourself.

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Speaker 1: With three minutes remaining in the game, Good luck trying

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Speaker 1: to fight your way out to the field. Before we

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Speaker 1: wrap things up, one of the callers asked about Davis

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Speaker 1: Webb and whether or not Davis Webb is showing somewhat

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Speaker 1: of a difference from Ryan Massive in terms of whether

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Speaker 1: or not he has the potential in the upside to

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Speaker 1: compete for a starting job down the Yes, he did.

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Speaker 1: Who I had many conversations with on this program where

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Speaker 1: I had to heat or about Ryan Nasson being a

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Speaker 1: starter elsewhere, and that was highly unlikely because it's never

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Speaker 1: happened before where a quarterback who has never started a

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Speaker 1: regular season game, then won a starting job elsewhere. But

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Speaker 1: getting back to the point here, oh it does well.

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Speaker 1: If you name me the millions of examples, I'd be

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Speaker 1: more than happy too. You see guys that the leave

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Speaker 1: teams and go to other teams they start. The Minnesota

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: quarterback was one of those guys. He wasn't started somewhere,

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Speaker 1: and well, no, you're right, but case Keenom had had

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Speaker 1: plenty of starts under his belt. This fill in work

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Speaker 1: through injuries. That that's what I meaning. They at least

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Speaker 1: had some type of regular season action this year. My

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Speaker 1: boy from Alabamas up in Buffaloes and will get starting job.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really have any real start, said uh Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: A J. Mccmeron mccaren he started playoff game. We started

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. Well, but that that's what I'm talking about, Howard.

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Speaker 1: I'm only asking for one. See, I know I'm being

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Speaker 1: real technical, but I'm asking Ryan Nasson never started a

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Speaker 1: regular season game. He threw ten passes in the regular

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Speaker 1: season his entire career, and that was all spot duty

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Speaker 1: lopsided games. So that doesn't well limited work, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you that, but but they at least had one start.

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: There was the former Buffalo Bill's quarterback who um. Rob

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Johnson was another one who barely had any work, but

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: he had one start before he got that mega contract,

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: if you recall. So that's another example I throw up.

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Speaker 1: But we were focusing here on David's webb. Garoppolo started

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Remember Tom Brady was suspended. God see,

1309
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Speaker 1: I told you you're not getting me on this program.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, Howard, I have looked at all quarterbacks. Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Brissette he started. He also started with remember when Brady

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Speaker 1: missed the game. See all the guys you're gonna name me,

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Speaker 1: they at least had a start. And then he went

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Speaker 1: into the Indianapolis Colts. So the reason why I bring

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Speaker 1: this up is as far as David's webb, Listen, Davis's

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Speaker 1: webb has had flashes during practice in all honesty where

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Speaker 1: he's made really good rose. He has a strong arm.

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Speaker 1: Mike Schula obviously talked about that when he met with

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Speaker 1: the media the other day. But like anything else, you

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Speaker 1: don't really truly know about these quarterbacks until they get

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Speaker 1: into games. And this, to me is going to be

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Speaker 1: a much more telling preseason than last preseason because Webb

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Speaker 1: is penciled in is the number two quarterbacks, so you

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Speaker 1: figure he's gonna get a lot of the snaps at

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01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: that position, more so than Kyle Loletta and Alex Taddy.

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Speaker 1: So I think that we'll get a better idea of

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Speaker 1: what we see in practice whether or not it's translating

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Speaker 1: over to the games in the preseason. But you gotta

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Speaker 1: wait and see the preseason games before we make these

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Speaker 1: bold declarations about Davis Webb's upside. In the meantime, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna let Howard go so he could find me a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that never started a regular season game and report

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Speaker 1: back to me that's gonna be his assignment over the

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Speaker 1: course of the preseason. Correct never started a regular season

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Speaker 1: game and then went to a new team and became

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Speaker 1: the daughter. That's the major question that I have in

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Speaker 1: terms of all of you NFL history buffs. All right, well, Howard,

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Speaker 1: it was always a pleasure. Glad to have you back

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Speaker 1: of the rotation. Thanks to the callers, thanks to the tweeters.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to answer some of your tweets off the

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Speaker 1: air for Howard cross On. Lance Meadow enjoyed the rest

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Speaker 1: of your Tuesday right here. On giants dot com. We'll

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Speaker 1: speak to you tomorrow. I have a good one.