1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: And now you feel me they got their own and 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: it's like, damn, they all came from from your nuts. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Though you feel me like these your kids, these your seeds, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: like these my nuts out there that I'm this thing 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: you feel me like. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Listen, we don't have to be talking about your nuts. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Sick of hearing beast more than I being corporate. But 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: come with YouTube member and get all the shows ad 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: free and unsensited so I can say. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Words like take money out of that corporate yard when 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: you become corporate free on the YouTube, child attention. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: Get godters, we have merch Hit the link in the 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: video and below to get your fits. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Don't get got, get your no merch man. 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna get got, but I'm gonna get 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: mine more than I get God. 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 5: Don't two folk for the one time I'm gonna get 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 5: got better. I bet I get his mind on size 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 5: two folds and two six. And if I get got, 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 5: then you know what I'm gonna get on side. 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Special guests, Special guests. Okay, he's back in the South. 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: Our coach from our Seattle days. 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 6: He was at USC from two thousand and one to 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 6: two thousand and nine with ninety seven and nineteen beast. 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 6: What a bunch of packed ten titles beat up on 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 6: you a few times. I know that at Seattle one 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty seven eighty nine and one, he had 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 6: a top which was part of seven. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: So hold on. 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: One of them lost him changed from US studio. One 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: of them losses came for Cals. I mean it was, 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: it was. It was the year before I got there. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: But I was at the game, so I counted, hold up, 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: let me finish before we Let coach talk. All right, 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: one of three coaches to win the Super Bowl and 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: College football national title be Curl welcons to the get 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: gout show bid goll. 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 7: So glad to be here. 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: Coach you coaching again? 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 6: Coach? 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: What's happening? Man? Was this your plan the whole time? 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Come on? May I let you? 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: Boy? 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: Man? 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 7: I never said I retired. 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I know something about that. 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, really, that's right, that's right. You know, I 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 8: wasn't sure. I didn't know. I was not finished coaching 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 8: in my mind, but I wasn't. I didn't know how 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 8: that would come up again. You know, I was anxious 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 8: to kind of see what would happen, and so Uh. 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 8: As as the end, middle to the end of the 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 8: season started rolling around, you know, we'll start to turning 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 8: a little bit, and I started making a call here 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 8: there just figure out what was going on, and uh 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 8: and there was a little bit of interest, you know, uh, 57 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 8: college too, you know, a little bit. 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 7: There was some stuff going on back and forth. 59 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 8: And the more I got around it, the more I 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 8: felt the passion growing. 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 7: And you know, the so I was really the way 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 7: I would say this, I was. 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 8: In the pursuit of the passion of this thing, you know, 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 8: and it's never been nothing but fun. So it's just 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 8: fortunately worked out. You know, a couple of crazy things 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 8: happened right around the end of it. And but the 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 8: Raiders thing when Tom joined up, Uh, that really made 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 8: a difference. 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 7: To me, and and that that kind of shifted my 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 7: gears a little bit. 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 8: And then and then when I learned about the ownership 72 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 8: that had come on, that Mark had hired, you know, 73 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 8: and with his new guys and all that, there was 74 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 8: a whole energy about it that really seemed like it 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 8: fit and they were kind of fired up about me 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 8: doing it. And so it was really it was pretty 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 8: easy decision in that in that case, you know, I 78 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 8: knew nothing about going to the desert or Vegas or 79 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 8: any of that stuff. 80 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 7: Well you hadn't thought. 81 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 8: About it, yeah, yeah, But anyway, so it got jumping 82 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 8: pretty good. 83 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Really really. 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 8: The last in the last couple of days, Sean called 85 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 8: me up and said, Hey, what's going on with this? 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 8: I'm starting to hear some talk or whatever. He's given 87 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 8: me a hard time late. Of course he called me 88 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 8: about eleven thirty at night. 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: You know it was, Yeah, you're always going down Sunday 90 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: June twenty second, catch me and sending my brother money 91 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch live at. 92 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 7: For not Express for a live podcast. 93 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Hey come pull up man, good conversation, good vibes and 94 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: a good ass time. 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: Though, plus a great guess you won't want to miss. 96 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this's gonna be somebody who you don't want to miss. 97 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you don't straight. 98 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Up that Sunday June twenty second for not Expess. Hit 99 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: up the site and get your tickets online. 100 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: Now we're hit in the stage at eleven am. Look, 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't miss that thing, you know I'm talking about. 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: I don't know what we had going on, but I 103 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: remember it was maybe like they had to been like 104 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning, which now kind of makes 105 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: me make sense cuz you was over yeah, I mean 106 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: back across the way, which gave you a little time difference. 107 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: But I remember getting a call and you know, we 108 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: was having that talking so much like yeah, and I'm like, man, nah, 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: you're like, wait, hold on, you want what we have 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: to talk about? Contracts? You said you're not Adrian Peterson. 111 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: He went, yeah, you're not Adrian Peterson. I was like, 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, it's lucky for you that you 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: ain't in uh negotiations with him right now when you 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: negotiations with me. But we're gonna figure this out. Yeah. 115 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I look like you called me 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: in two in the morning and just he said, you 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: ain't Adrian Peterson, you ain't Chris Johnson. 119 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: Oh man. 120 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: He was going down the little because everybody was just 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: getting their bag at the time. 122 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: I'm like, you get at him like that, coach, what 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: you was trying to do? You just trying to let 124 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: him know, Hey man, we just try you know, it's 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: a business. 126 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 7: Start just trying to rough I was trying to rough 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 7: them up before you rough me up. 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: That's how it is. Man, Look, coach coach knows this, 129 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: but beast, you know, I do my NBC thing in 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: the falls, and there was a couple of times I 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: was up at Washington had a chance to, you know, 132 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: say what's up the coach coach just talk about that 133 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: year being off and you know you were up in 134 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: Washington with your son, Brendan was up there being the 135 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: officsive coordinator. How did that experience keep the hunger? You 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying there for you just being around 137 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: young people, being around you know, the college athletes again, 138 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: how did that year with Washington or kind of in 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: that realm help you come. 140 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: To the decision to be a head coach again? 141 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 8: You know, that was just really one part of the offseason, 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 8: but it was a good part of it because they 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 8: got to you know, hang close. 144 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: I didn't. 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 8: I didn't you know, I went to practice a handful 146 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 8: of times and kind of hung around and just trying 147 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 8: to keep tracks on what U what Jay was doing, 148 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 8: with what Belichick was doing on defense. It just just 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 8: for fun, you know, but uh, but it kept me 150 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 8: close and and uh it was really following my grandson 151 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 8: playing in high school. You know, that was totally, total, great, 152 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 8: great time. I had so much fun with that. And 153 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 8: then Nate was coaching at the Panthers, and and Dave 154 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 8: Canalis was coaching out there, you know, and and DQ's 155 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 8: doing his thing in Washington. So I had a bunch 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 8: of guys that I got to watch uh and stay 157 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 8: in touch with. And and really it was the perspective 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 8: that you that you're you're luckily handed when you don't coach, 159 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 8: is to see things totally differently. 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 7: It's so much. 161 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 8: Clearer that during the season it's hard to evaluate the 162 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 8: game you're just because you're just battling, you know. But 163 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 8: this was a year like my last time I sat out, 164 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 8: was so much happened, you know, And it was just 165 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 8: like I was. I was being handed insights throughout the 166 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 8: year about different things that I saw in the game 167 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 8: that I liked, didn't like, things that I would like 168 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 8: to do differently better. I got motivated in a different 169 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 8: way to teach a little bit, to teach better, you know, 170 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 8: to approach things differently with my coaches so that they 171 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 8: could teach and coach better. 172 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 7: There was just a whole lundry list of things that 173 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 7: kept coming and so. 174 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 8: I was getting excited about it because I was pissed 175 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 8: off about so many things we didn't do right. 176 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 7: You know, we could have done better. Maybe it budgyed 177 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 7: the heck out of me, but so all of. 178 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 8: That just kind of fueled it, you know, and it 179 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 8: just kind of fueled the excitement about returning and then 180 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 8: so it But it really is a totally different perspective 181 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 8: than when you're in, you know, in the midst of 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 8: the game plans and you don't get to see the game. 183 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 8: And so it happened, you know, way back after the 184 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 8: New England years. I set out that one year and 185 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 8: got my act together, got my philosophy together, got the 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 8: way I could best express, you know, while I was 187 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 8: coming from and all that and uh and. 188 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 7: Then the next thing that happened was USC. 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 8: You know, after I go to USC, and the rest, 190 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 8: to me, I don't even mind saying that the rest 191 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 8: is history. You know, we've done a lot of good 192 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 8: stuff since them. But it was that year off where 193 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 8: I found the clarity, uh to step away and find 194 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 8: myself more so. And uh so this year was different, 195 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 8: but it was similar in that I gained a ton 196 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 8: of information that I'm unloading right now on the fellows 197 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 8: as we're doing it. 198 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask you something though, because you know, 199 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: you hear about like all the great coaches like, oh yeah, 200 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, these guys come from the parcel tree. They 201 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: come from the bell trick. That's what I'm damn, Mike. 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: What I'm just saying. 203 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, uh, to to to see all 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the guys that that that came from, because I mean 205 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I just look around and I you know, I'll run 206 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: into coaches like look at solid like what I like 207 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: Dave canw was like, bro, this used to hold the cards. 208 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: Like man, you drew the damn car wrong. 209 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: And and now you feel me they got their own. 210 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: It's like, damn, they all came from from uh from 211 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: your nuts though, you feel me like these your kids, 212 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: these your seeds, like these my nuts out there that 213 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm through this thing. 214 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 7: You feel me like, listen, we don't have to be 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 7: talking about your nuts. 216 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I feel like I raised them too, though, 217 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, look at 218 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: these ding you know what I mean? So how how 219 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: you know? I mean that year off and you looking 220 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: around like damn, all, look at all my kids they 221 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: out here doing it like, man, hold on, man, I 222 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: might have to get back in here and Pops might 223 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: have to show them what's really going on. 224 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 7: Like, well, there's I can't lie to you. Man. It 225 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 7: was something like that. 226 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: It was. 227 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 8: Sitting back and watching it and I'm cheerleading and all that, 228 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 8: but I was not not. 229 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 7: Removed from it, you know. I was just in a 230 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 7: different place. 231 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 8: And uh, I was talking to David all year long, 232 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 8: and you know, talk to Danny and you know, talking 233 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 8: to her guys because that I kind of keep track 234 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 8: of everybody as best they can, you know, and and uh, 235 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 8: for those guys just to be available if they've got questions, 236 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 8: they got thoughts, they got whatever, you know. And I'm 237 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 8: not expecting that I had got any jewels of wisdom 238 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 8: for him. I just want to support them and love 239 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 8: them up as they're going through it. But I was 240 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 8: it was my gift. They gave the gift to me 241 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 8: to kind of just stay with them, you know. And 242 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 8: and so you know that and what what happened, And 243 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 8: well you guys know too, because we've been through this together. 244 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 8: And when we go through this scene together, you know 245 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: there's a connection that's made that doesn't it doesn't fall away, 246 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 8: It doesn't go it doesn't go apart unless you're talking to. 247 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: Earl or something like that. You know, like we won't 248 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: teammates with them. 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna get up all 250 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: of the team. Man, he doesn't love me. I knew. 251 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: I knew you were some serious when I seen Brick 252 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: where brick was that brick was just the jets. I said, man, 253 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: hold on with this. They let break in it. I say, yeah, okay, well. 254 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: A good coach. It was always a good coach. 255 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean maybe because I played again some more so. 256 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like, you know, to see that, 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: but knowing it became from that, from that tree is like, all, yeah, 258 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you was you were serious with the yeah. 259 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 8: And then well, let me say one of the one 260 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 8: of the things that happens now is with you see, 261 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 8: the new guys get a chance to be a head 262 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 8: coach and first time opportunities and all that, and it 263 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 8: doesn't work out very well for the most part. And 264 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 8: it didn't work out for me either. You know, I 265 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 8: got bounced it to just after one year. I got 266 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 8: bounced three years after being in New England. We were winning, 267 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 8: we were twenty seven and twenty one. After three we 268 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 8: went to the pro to the playoffs twice and I 269 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 8: still got fired, you know. And but I didn't have 270 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 8: my act together. I didn't know what I was doing. 271 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 7: I really didn't. 272 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 8: Not until I sat out that year between New England 273 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 8: and SC did I get my act in order so 274 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 8: that I could have a fullilosophy, you know. And my 275 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 8: point is that for the new guys that try, they 276 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 8: don't know what they're getting into. 277 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 7: There's no way you can get ready for it. 278 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 8: There's nothing that prepares you for it until you do 279 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 8: and you realize what you don't know and how much 280 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 8: you don't know. And so the clubs and coaches and 281 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 8: they all struggle with with the new guys coming on. 282 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 8: And David, David Canals really had me've been with me 283 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 8: for fourteen years. He had the language of an approach. 284 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 8: Whether it was him or not, it was. He had 285 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 8: an approach that he could he could stand by and 286 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 8: at least govern the decisions and the choices and the 287 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 8: confrontations all that stuff. That's what the new guys they 288 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 8: don't know, you know. It's not their fault. Was my 289 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 8: fault either. I just didn't know, and so you know 290 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 8: it's it's to come back now, you know, after after 291 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 8: redoing it a couple of times, this doesn't seem hard. 292 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 8: Now it's just rolling it out, you know, and watching 293 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 8: it happen. It's really really been special. 294 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: What's to that point, coach? You've done this long time? Man, right, 295 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: You've had an opportunity to fail a few times and 296 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: still be able to come back, win championships, all of 297 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: those things. Now you're back in the league. I can 298 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: assume you're sitting in rooms where maybe everybody doesn't have 299 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: the wealth of experience as you do. You know what 300 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, how do you govern that? 301 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Though? 302 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: Like it's almost like you know some of the answers 303 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: to the tests, right, but you also know shared experiences 304 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: have to be gone through together, right, so everybody can 305 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: learn and get to a point to where you are now? 306 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: How do you govern that in the moments when you 307 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: may feel you have an answer to a problem, but 308 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: yet you do know that you know, you got to 309 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: delegate so that people can learn what they can do 310 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: on their own, so to speak. 311 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah. 312 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 7: It's a really good question. 313 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 8: There's a lot of depths to the thinking that goes 314 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 8: into this because where one regard. You know, I want 315 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 8: these guys to to grow and learn from their own experiences, 316 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 8: but yet I ain't got time to wait for them either, 317 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 8: you know, And so so I have to find the 318 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 8: way to communicate with them in a way that continues 319 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 8: to support them and build them up, but yet make 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 8: sure that they stay within guidelines that keep us in 321 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 8: a philosophical vein and stay on track and on course. 322 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 8: And so I like with Chip Kelly, and this guy's 323 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 8: been around, you know, he's coached all over the place, 324 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 8: he's been a head coach a number of times, he's 325 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 8: been highly successful and all and and he's got an 326 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 8: incredible brain. And his office is right next to mine 327 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 8: for a reason. You know, what we need to be 328 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 8: sharing our experiences we go through this. But what I'm 329 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 8: really doing is I'm supporting them in every way that 330 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 8: I can. But yet I'm also you know, I'm feeding them, 331 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 8: you know, the little gems that you know, to keep 332 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 8: them in track, in touch with what we stand for 333 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 8: and how we operate. And that's not the same as 334 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 8: he's done it, you know. So but he's been marvelous 335 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 8: about it. You know, he's been really open and easy 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 8: to communicate with and all that. Patrick graham By on 337 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 8: the other side of it. Patrick is a younger coach, 338 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 8: but he's been a coordinator for six years in the league. 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 8: You know, he'd been through a lot from from he's 340 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 8: from the Belichick upbringing, you know, and so we come, 341 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 8: you know, a widespread of difference in our way of 342 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 8: looking at things and treating people and all that, and 343 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 8: so that's been a little bit different that relationship. So 344 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 8: and then it feeds right on down to the coaches. 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 8: What I have to do is do a freaking awesome 346 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 8: job of just kicking ass on every in every step 347 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 8: of the way and everything so that we can stay 348 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 8: on course and keep getting positive and all and doing 349 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 8: the right things to build like we've had. We had 350 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 8: three phase threes this week this past week and uh 351 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 8: and on the last day of the week, we had 352 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 8: a competition between offensive defensive coordinators. 353 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 7: You know, we had a like a scrimmage in essence, 354 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 7: you know, where they. 355 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 8: Were there they had to call call defenses and offenses 356 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 8: against themselves, you know, And so I got to see, 357 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 8: you know, what's happened in those first couple of months 358 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 8: we've been together kind of how it first shows itself. 359 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 7: And uh, of course, you know, when. 360 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 8: I mentioned to the team in the meeting that we're 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 8: going to, hey, we got we're gonna have a first 362 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 8: o CDC competition, of course they start, you know, shoot 363 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 8: out shoot, you know. So we've got I got Chim 364 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 8: Kelly shooting against against Patrick Graham, you know, up in 365 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 8: front of the me you know, and uh, it's just 366 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 8: added led to uh to a really good day. But 367 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 8: my point is that this is a it's a race. 368 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 8: It's a race to get everything together and to get 369 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 8: really clean and sharp. And you got to get really 370 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 8: good at something before you can get good at two things, 371 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 8: you know. And and so we just have to keep battling. 372 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 8: And I have to keep the quality control of that 373 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 8: throughout the process. 374 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 7: And I don't, you know, I miss stuff. I don't 375 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 7: do it as well as I want to. 376 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 8: But I've got to be totally active and interactive with 377 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 8: everybody to give us our best shot to do it 378 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 8: the way I picture it and dream it to be, 379 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 8: you know. And so it's it's really really fun. It's 380 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 8: fun as hell, because this is as much fun as 381 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 8: you can have in coaching. Putting it together like this, 382 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 8: and so fortunately the guys are doing great and they're 383 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 8: putting up with me, and I'm driving them crazy. And 384 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 8: you know, I've been going, man, I've been going. I 385 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 8: was bleeding on the practice field on me because she 386 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 8: was doing too much. What happened, I hooked somebody or something, 387 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 8: you know, like, I'm going to much. 388 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: Coach, you know what I'm saying. You got calmed down, man. 389 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: You in your seventies. 390 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 7: Bro, No, I'm not in anything. 391 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm not in anything anything. Coach Paterno told me that 392 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: the worst invention was the calendar. You know what I'm saying. 393 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: He told me that before he passed away back in 394 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: the day. But here's my question, man, because I remember 395 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: when I first got to Seattle. I remember sitting in 396 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: your office with John and you guys sat me in 397 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: actually Leon Washington down at the same time and was like, Yo, 398 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: this is how we want this team built. 399 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, these are our core principles. 400 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: We're gonna need guys like yourself to like, you know, 401 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: be saying the same type of stuff in the. 402 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Locker room as well. 403 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 3: You've been a lot of different places, like the Raiders 404 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: ain't like the Raiders been to a lot of championships 405 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: as of late. You know what I'm saying, like, how 406 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: do you you come in and completely change your culture 407 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: because and I've said this to him before, it ain't 408 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: gonna he ain't gonna be upset. 409 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: Well he might, I don't know. 410 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: In the past, I've looked at Raiders like that's been 411 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: the graveyard for careers, you know what I mean, because 412 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: it had it hadn't been a lot of winning. 413 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry beasts. I love you, bro not you, but 414 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: I love you. 415 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: So my thing is like, how you do it, man, 416 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: because that's tough. 417 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Brouh Well, I'll. 418 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 8: Tell you the first thing we did in the very 419 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: first meeting is I said, okay, you guys have a 420 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 8: perspective on you know, how times have been here and 421 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 8: kind of how you see things. And I bet most 422 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 8: of your sitting in the exact same seat you're sitting 423 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 8: in when you left. I said, get up and change 424 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 8: your freaking seat. Let's go everybody take a new look 425 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 8: at this thing. So everybody had to get up out 426 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 8: of their seats and sit in a new place. And 427 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 8: if I did that when Marshawn was there, he wouldn't 428 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 8: have moved. Okay, he just sat in the same seat. 429 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 8: Yeah he left over there, he just sat back in 430 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 8: the same seat. But but I'm watching, I was watching, 431 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 8: you know. I want to see who changed the seats 432 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 8: and who doesn't. 433 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: I want to know. 434 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 8: But the point is that we just had to leave 435 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 8: everything in the past. It's no different than going from 436 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 8: a one year to the next, from a championship season 437 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 8: or a struggling season to the next one. 438 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: How you're gonna do, You're gonna dragg all with you, or 439 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 7: you're gonna go on. 440 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 8: And so the whole point is to start new and 441 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 8: start fresh and give them a new outlook and and 442 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 8: and really be willing to be different at everything. We 443 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 8: painted the hallways and the building, some of the meeting 444 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 8: rooms and stuff like that, just to change the colors. 445 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 7: There was so much black in that. 446 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 8: In the hallways it was like you're in a freaking cave, 447 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 8: you know, And so so we lighted it up a 448 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 8: little bit, so we get a little bit more silver 449 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 8: in there. And but the point is just they never 450 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 8: hear me talk about anything in the past. Of whatever 451 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 8: I don't give, that doesn't mean nothing, you know, And 452 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 8: that's a philosophy it's the next step you take the counts. 453 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 8: It's the one that the very next thing you do, 454 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 8: what's next, you know. 455 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 7: And so. 456 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 8: I mean this is like a no brainer for me, 457 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 8: you know what I mean, This is easy for me 458 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 8: to confront this challenge because we start over every time, 459 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 8: you know. And so that's what we're doing now. 460 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: And so. 461 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 8: I mean, we're we're we're balling out. Practice is going 462 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 8: you know. You know, if you guys remember, get used 463 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 8: to get in trouble a little bit. 464 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: You know how we practiced, you know, back in the day. 465 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: Didn't practice practice, practice took away? Yeah, y'all was hating 466 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: too hard. We got practice. 467 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: You remember that morning I was on the phone with 468 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: the p A trying to argue, well, we won't tackling guys, 469 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: you know, guys will just competing, you know what I'm saying. 470 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: They took a whole week of our practice. 471 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, hey, you know you guys haven't brought 472 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 8: it up yet. Maybe it's not time yet, But how 473 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 8: about how about dealing mccolor being on the staff here? 474 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, sure, son, yep, because you guys, nobody knows 475 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 8: sure better than you guys back in the day, and 476 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 8: all that. But to have this connection with Surreana and 477 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 8: I mean sure list, sure list through d Now there's 478 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 8: a the words, the looks, the glances. 479 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: Look it goes in that in that vein though. I 480 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie, man, what was it fourteen fifteen years 481 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: in Seattle? Like I never thought you would coach anywhere else. 482 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna eat lie to you, bro, like in 483 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: your in your view, like what happened? You know what 484 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying? Does a message get run? Run its course? 485 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: After June and Snid, did y'all run y'all? Fair one? 486 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: They went to vmack and squared up. 487 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Did y'all you had to go throw hands with him? 488 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: Okay? What I was saying, let me take you back. 489 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: How could I have ever left USC? Really? 490 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: You know how us Cat's getting paid than I am before? 491 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: N I l that's why. 492 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 8: Okay, But I mean really, at the time, I couldn't 493 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 8: even picture I couldn't picture coaching in Wells because we 494 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 8: had won so much and had so much fun, you know. 495 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 7: But but when when. 496 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 8: It happened and I got a call and they started 497 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 8: talking about, you know, the chance to do it exactly 498 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 8: the way you want to do it, and all that 499 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 8: kind of all the control and all of that. 500 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 7: It's just and I love the league. You know, college 501 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 7: football is great, but I love the league the. 502 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 8: Way it's formatted, and it's the best of the best 503 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 8: and all that kind of stuff in the playoffs and 504 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 8: the whole thing, the way it's structured. And so you 505 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 8: know that happened. Okay, So how could it happen again? Well, 506 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 8: let me help you out on this one. First of all, 507 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 8: how did you know how did I wind up leaving Seattle? Well, 508 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 8: there came a time late in this in that last season, 509 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 8: there's about four or five games to go, and I 510 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 8: really went into John's office. I said, John, you know, 511 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 8: we're coming up the end of the season here, and 512 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 8: we were at the time, we didn't know. 513 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 7: You know, how good we're going to do. 514 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 8: We were because we won four or five of the 515 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 8: last six or something like that, and uh, and I said, 516 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot of changes that are coming 517 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 8: and uh, potentially, and you and I aren't looking at 518 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 8: these changes probably the same way. And because I had guys, 519 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 8: I thought we were really close. And I love Bobby 520 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 8: and I love Quandre and you know, and I would 521 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 8: you know, lock t Lock and all the guys. 522 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 7: I wanted to keep going with those guys. 523 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 8: And I knew that he was, you know, likely thinking 524 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 8: differently he was, and uh, and so I said, you know, 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 8: this might you know, And I had always been in 526 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 8: charge the whole time, and I had always said to 527 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 8: John that, you know, when I leave, I'm hoping that 528 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 8: I'll be able to help you be the general manager 529 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 8: and have you this be your gig. 530 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 7: And so I said, this may be that time. 531 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 8: I said, maybe why don't you talk to ownership and 532 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 8: see if you know, if you're sitting in the right 533 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 8: spot where they would give you the chance to do that, 534 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 8: then maybe it's time for, you. 535 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: Know, for us to move it on. And so that 536 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 7: was really the conversation. 537 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: Suggest didn't you suggested that you came in change? 538 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: I got, yeah, and I did. 539 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 8: I didn't want to, uh, you know, I wasn't. I 540 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 8: couldn't like quit on the fellas you know. So it 541 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 8: kind of had just I just had to kind of 542 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 8: eat it, you know, how it came across. You're asking 543 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 8: me still you didn't know what happened. But John and 544 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 8: I we we we had been partners in this thing. 545 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 8: And to me that head coach general manager thing is 546 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 8: by far the most crucial relationship in the NFL, maybe 547 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 8: most professional sports. And I always wanted John to be 548 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 8: the best GM, you know, in the in the NFL 549 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 8: or in professional sports, and I was going to promote 550 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 8: him to be that. 551 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 7: And that was the way we were getting. 552 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 8: Married, in the sense in this job and we're going 553 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 8: to you know, nobody would know who's calling the shots 554 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 8: or how we did it. 555 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 7: It was just gonna be the Seattle way. 556 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 8: And so it worked, you know, and it worked great 557 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 8: for us, and we had a blast doing it. But 558 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 8: I kind of had that promise all along that you know, 559 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 8: someday you'll be the guy and I'll be getting out 560 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 8: of here. 561 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 7: You know, it's gonna come sometime. And so it just 562 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 7: kind of worked out where that was. 563 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 8: They were okay about it, and uh, you know, Jody 564 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: didn't like the thought of firing me, and and so, uh, 565 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 8: you know, we worked out a thing, we talked about 566 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 8: consulting and that kind of stuff. But as soon as 567 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 8: they started going, you know, I couldn't. 568 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 7: I couldn't. I mean, I was it was. 569 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 8: Too creepy for me to be around that building and 570 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 8: be close to those they told me when Bill Walsh. 571 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 7: Bill Walsh did it. 572 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 8: He came back at the Niners when I was there, 573 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 8: and uh, the last couple of years before George Seiffert, 574 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 8: you know, left, and it was it was creepy. You know, 575 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 8: it's just like the old guy, you know that you know, everybody's. 576 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: They told me you was back there creeping around the 577 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: load and Doc trying to. 578 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: Say one time. 579 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 7: I had to fill up my car with my stuff, 580 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 7: and so you're. 581 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: Like, I think I seen Pete walking looking up in 582 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: the in the in the back over there and the 583 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: bunch of it. Should I should I be afraid? I was? 584 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 8: I was k K had a big bunch of pile 585 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 8: of stuff to put in my car, and and I'm 586 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 8: starting to load up the car and out of nowhere. 587 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 8: It was the middle of the day, and nobody knew 588 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 8: I was there, and and I she this guy come 589 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 8: jogging into. 590 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 7: The parking lot and I look over, Yeah, that's that's 591 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 7: a new. 592 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 8: Coach you know before you know. So so we we 593 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 8: had a really nice, you know visit for a couple 594 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 8: of minutes and and you know he's you know, it 595 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 8: was just it was classically it was a nice and 596 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 8: nice meeting, but that was it. Then I blowed the car. 597 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 8: I was gone, you know, and that was that was it. 598 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 8: Nobody had to know, and I didn't want to. 599 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 7: I didn't want to. It just would have felt I 600 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 7: didn't need to do that. 601 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 8: So anyway, it worked out great, you know, And I 602 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 8: had a fantastic offseason and did a lot of fun 603 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 8: things and watched a lot of football and really got ready. 604 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 8: I should be the best I've ever been. That's what 605 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 8: I should be right now. And that's what I'm playing 606 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 8: on being for these guys. And uh see how far 607 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: that takes us. 608 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 7: You know. 609 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think the last time I told you thank 610 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: you was probably after we won the Bowl and I 611 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: was giving you the hug and all that type of 612 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: stuff on the I was crying my bubble. 613 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you god, damn more. 614 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: I was done. You know what I'm saying. I knew 615 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: my football attorney was over. 616 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I said this, but 617 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: like a little bro. 618 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 3: We talk about this. We talked about don't do don't 619 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: give them that energy, man, you know what I'm saying. 620 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: We talk about this on the pod. Yeah, somebody, we 621 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: talk about We talk about this on the pod a 622 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: lot about when Beasts came to us in Seattle in 623 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: twenty ten. Could you just give us the background behind that. 624 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: I heard, you know, you were chasing him for a while, 625 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: you know, trying to get him a while? 626 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: And why why? 627 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: Aim like, what about this man? Make this about he. 628 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Got somebody over there in right now. I know I'm 629 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna get there, but it starts here. 630 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 7: Let me do my journalism. 631 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Oh, this is got roll. 632 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 8: You guys got roles to play, Okay, So yeah, so 633 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 8: here here's the deal. 634 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 7: The and it goes way back to recruiting. 635 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 8: No one want Shawn during the recruiting process, recruiting process, 636 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 8: and we we wound up not not getting together. 637 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 7: Did you ever visit, Sean. I don't think you visited, 638 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 7: did you know? 639 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 8: And and uh and so but I knew he was 640 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 8: out there and and all that, and we had a 641 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 8: great year of recruiting running backs that year. And then uh, 642 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 8: and then we played against him, you know, and we 643 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 8: so I got to see what it was like playing 644 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 8: against him. So I felt like I knew him well, 645 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 8: driving the golf cart and all that stuff that didn't 646 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 8: matter to me, and and and going and going to 647 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 8: Buffalo and get in trouble with guns. 648 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: Man. 649 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: We don't we don't talk about Bruno. 650 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 8: I was just telling you that didn't bother me one bit. 651 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 8: I knew who he was and what he stood for 652 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 8: as best I could from from Afar and and going 653 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 8: into this pro new program that we we had nothing 654 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 8: at the time. We were just getting started and uh, 655 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 8: and I wanted to have somebody that, you know, that 656 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: could make a statement with the way he played and 657 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 8: particularly involved in the running games like Cable was. You know. 658 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 8: I got Alex Gibs. You don't remember this seam, but 659 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 8: we hired Alex Gibbs to be the linko and he quit. 660 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 8: He quit on the Monday of the first week of 661 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 8: the season. He quit, you know, and anyway, so so 662 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 8: the next thing was to was to get you know, 663 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 8: to get uh, you know, to get Caves to come in. 664 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 8: But I wanted a mentality and wanted a symbol, and 665 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 8: really I thought, and we we tried to trade for 666 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 8: him for three months. 667 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 7: I kept John, call again, call again. She just keep 668 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 7: keep on. I don't even know what do we do? 669 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: What do you want? 670 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 8: I don't know some I don't we don't even talk 671 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 8: about what the conversation was but eventually they said okay, 672 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 8: and uh, and so. 673 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: We got him. 674 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 8: And from the moment he got there, he was very unsuspected. 675 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 8: He was very suspecting of me. I thought, you know, 676 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 8: what the heck he was getting into. 677 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: But I was. 678 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: I was. 679 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: I was in love with the guy coming to our 680 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 8: program from from from very very beginning. And that's why 681 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 8: I talk about competing, competing to get you, to get. 682 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 7: You out of Buffalo was. 683 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 8: Uh, it was a long, long asshole, you know, but 684 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 8: it was worth obviously, it was worth every. 685 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: Minute of it. And and uh and. 686 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 8: So that was really that's what happened. And then the 687 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 8: rest of us just let him be him, you know, 688 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 8: and and uh, which was which I'll say it in 689 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 8: front of him. It's a marvelous thing, you know, and 690 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 8: it's it's shown me how and I've talked about it 691 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 8: for years about finding what is so extraordinarily unique about 692 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 8: each person and let that come and bring it to 693 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 8: the front. And Marshall was and it was always in 694 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 8: the back of my mind because he's an amazing individual 695 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 8: and not and I'm not talking about all the crazy stuff. 696 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 8: I'm talking about the effect you have on people and 697 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 8: the effect of them responding to you. And as long 698 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 8: as you and I we were okay, everything was going 699 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 8: to be fine. And so I was gonna make it okay. 700 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 8: It wasn't anything, you know, I was gonna make that 701 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 8: relationship successful. And I eventually found out that I kind 702 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 8: of fell in love with you. But it took a while. 703 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 8: But here's the deal. You don't and I'm talking to 704 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 8: Mike now. The deal was, I love Marshan and and 705 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 8: I didn't care what he did. 706 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 7: I didn't care. 707 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 8: He couldn't do wrong by me, and so and he 708 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 8: never did. He never did, and he just did, Marshan, 709 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 8: and which I thought was an amazing, incredible gift. And 710 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 8: I still I love you to to this day for 711 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 8: all of the things you've continued to do because your 712 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 8: heart is People don't realize how big your heart is 713 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 8: and how much important is for family, and how important 714 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 8: is to take care of those that need you and 715 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 8: all that, and so you really have never been any 716 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 8: different in my mind, went from the time I first 717 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 8: met you and I got to know you. But I 718 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 8: still I'm one of your great cheerleaders because I love 719 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 8: what you do and all that. Not everybody can see 720 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 8: the beauty, but I know I can't. We didn't have 721 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 8: to make up. It was just like, come on, let's 722 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 8: go do this, and I'll be ding if you didn't. 723 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 8: You score a touchdown or something in the first in 724 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 8: the first game back or something like that. 725 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, every game, I think, I think every game. 726 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 7: Anyway, So every game. 727 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: Every game. 728 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 8: Also, it was like three games or something like that, 729 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 8: three games in a row or something like that. It 730 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 8: worked out awesome, you know, and maybe nobody could see 731 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 8: why they couldn't figure it out, but they didn't have to. 732 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 8: I didn't get you know, I just want to. I 733 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 8: just want to do it again with you and have 734 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 8: fun doing it and help. I want to help my team. 735 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 7: And I knew you could. H anyway, good story, read it, 736 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 7: all of it. 737 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: I didn't go edit it because I ask them some 738 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: more about you. 739 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: No, we ain't supposed to be talking about men. 740 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm saying this is you too, bro. You 741 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Well, in that same band, coach, 742 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: you got you got a hell of a back. Now 743 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: you draft one in the first round. I called his 744 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: game against Oregon this past year. I saw him running 745 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: away from the defensive backs man like Yeah, talk about 746 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: Jens and you know, possibly how maybe he compares to 747 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: this guy. Right, he's been on the show before and 748 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: he's spoken some great things about bist mode. But uh, 749 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: just talk about your back and how he compares. 750 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 8: Know. I love the fact that you guys have Alveray 751 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 8: started a relationship and that's already ongoing, you know, and 752 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 8: that asks you guys too, if you've watched him enough. 753 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 8: There's something about his style that is reminiscent of some 754 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 8: other great backs. He has an ability to use the 755 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 8: force of the tackler, and he goes with the force, 756 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 8: and he glances and bounces like Emittt like Mark Sean 757 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 8: that he would bang off of things as opposed to 758 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 8: banging into him, you know, and you would do that too, 759 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 8: but but you would do it to gain force where 760 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 8: you wanted to go. He's he's got that, I think. 761 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 8: And uh, I watched everything as much as I could 762 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 8: because I was trying to determine does he have the 763 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 8: special you know, does he have that knack that s 764 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 8: am it you know, and Barry and and and showing that. 765 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 7: They had that that sense. 766 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 8: It was almost it's almost like a martial art kind 767 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 8: of using the other person's power to your advantage. 768 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 7: And uh so. 769 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 8: I'm really I'm thrilled that he's on our team. And 770 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 8: I hope that we can really, you know, bring him 771 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 8: to the light for everybody to see. So it would 772 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 8: be funny. He's he's a good kid. 773 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 7: You know. I got I got stand on in, MI 774 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 7: got stay on the mill. 775 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: You know. 776 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 8: The first couple of days of practice, you know, he 777 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 8: was kind of cruising and I said, hey, wait a minute, now, 778 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 8: if you're going to be the dude, you got to 779 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 8: do something. You got to be special and you need 780 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 8: to show these guys that you're special. And and the 781 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 8: best way during this time of year is to do 782 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 8: it with your effort. Make sure that you're busting your 783 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 8: ass and you're running out and make those guys chase, 784 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 8: you know. And and he responded right away and took 785 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 8: off and and and sent the message you know that 786 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 8: he's willing to kind of take this, you know, this 787 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 8: load and this opportunity to do something with it. So 788 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 8: we'll see, but we need to keep coaching them up. 789 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 8: When he done, he's just a pup. 790 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, may let that man get in this stand straight 791 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: up coach. You know what I'm saying let him let 792 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: him see he's short. You know that, right, he got it. 793 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 7: I didn't tell him not to. I didn't tell him 794 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 7: that happened to that. He and the Stokes. So they're 795 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 7: working something out. 796 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: They worked. 797 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: Could you talk to us about how important it was 798 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: to have Genold. I'm such a fan of Geno. Coach, 799 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: great job bringing him with the great job paying them. 800 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Just talk about Geno and how how much further along 801 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: you've been because you. 802 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Have a guy that everybody about, that being no Number 803 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: want to go. 804 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: He tried to get everybody about. 805 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: He tried to have the Oakland Seahawks. 806 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: Oakland Seahawks, Yeah, I was. 807 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 7: I was working there. Well, yeah, Gino, to me, it's 808 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 7: like getting more Seawan. 809 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: You know. 810 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 8: To me, it's like that because there's a connection of 811 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 8: the impact that the guy can have on everybody else. 812 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 6: Gino. 813 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 8: You know, the years we spent together, the years when 814 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 8: he wasn't playing, the most significant years to me, because 815 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 8: he exemplified this mentality that I ain't never seen anybody else. 816 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 8: He really, I really would tell you that he thought 817 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 8: every play he was getting he was going to be in, 818 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 8: and somehow he held on to that kind of focus 819 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 8: that it wasn't He didn't ever lose it. He didn't 820 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 8: never waiver every play that that the other guy was taken, 821 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 8: it might be his last play and he might be 822 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 8: ready and he needs to be ready to go. And 823 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 8: you know, he'd been through some pain, some hardship and 824 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 8: stuff like that. But by the time we got him, 825 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 8: he came with this mentality that anyway, So when he 826 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 8: finally out a chance, he did great, you know, and 827 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 8: and a lot of people were surprised. 828 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 7: Shoot, he was the. 829 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 8: Comeback player of the year, you know, the first year 830 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 8: that he that he started and all that after Russell left, 831 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 8: and it was just so to get him to come 832 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 8: to was man, this is so significant because he's awesome. 833 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 8: He's awesome every day, first guy on, the last guy off, 834 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 8: just sizzling in practice, you know, great throws every day 835 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 8: and uh, he got the little skinny legs. 836 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 7: You know that I keep hitting him with. Did they 837 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 7: rest the guy? He said, which guy? The guy stole 838 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 7: your calves? 839 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 8: But anyway, but he's, uh, you know, he's just done 840 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 8: everything you can hope for. And with Max, Max is 841 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 8: such a significant leader on the defensive side that those 842 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 8: two guys and they've they've you know, they've just joined 843 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 8: up together, uh, you know, collectively to give us something 844 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 8: that's really really powerful. So okay, that's a good start, 845 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 8: you know, that's a really good start, you know. So 846 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 8: now the rest of it has to come together. 847 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 3: You mentioned his name, but I just got to ask 848 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: you and Russ good coachy. 849 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, we're doing We're doing fine. 850 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 7: Like I told you, guys, I stayed in contact with 851 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 7: you guys. It's best I can. 852 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 8: And and so you know, Russell was wanted to call you, 853 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 8: and so you know I heard, I've heard a lot 854 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 8: from him, and and I stayed in contact with him 855 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 8: throughout with the same thought, just trying to help him, 856 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 8: you know, just trying to help him to out. Gina 857 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 8: and I were talking to this last year too, you know, 858 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 8: and just trying to help them be there for him 859 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 8: and continue to support him because nobody. 860 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 7: Knows those guys as well as I do, you know. 861 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 8: And and so if I could be their form to 862 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 8: answer some questions, kick him in the butter or whatever, 863 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 8: you know. And really there was a chance, you know 864 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 8: that with Russ coming up in free agency that you know, 865 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 8: we need a quarterback. So there was conversation. You know, 866 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 8: in that short amount of time there before we got 867 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 8: Geno that uh you know who knows. You know, there 868 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 8: could be. 869 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 3: A shot so reunited and it feels so good. Y'all 870 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 3: was about to be reunited. Huh. I love it. 871 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: Man. 872 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: You got to get you. 873 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 8: Know, you know, you guys might be able to carry 874 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 8: out a couple of yourselves. You know you might be 875 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 8: able to get out there and just the two of you, 876 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 8: you lead them up through through a little lead player 877 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 8: or something. 878 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: Smoke and do it. I don't have the size no more, coach, 879 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: I don't want no parts of him. 880 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 7: About the size. The size of the dog in the 881 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 7: fighter's the size. 882 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: Of And I remember our conversation when no, when Jeff 883 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: Albrick called me, he was my homie, but you was 884 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: in his office. So I was talking to death and 885 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 3: you were telling me, look, man, just I just need 886 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 3: to full back the block a half of a guy. 887 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: That's it. I never forgot that, coach. 888 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 889 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 3: I even teach up other full back what you're saying, man, 890 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 3: nothing you're trying to say. 891 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 7: I was sold. 892 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to say you were soft. I just 893 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: was listening to what the coaches was saying. Oh there 894 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: you going. I know I'm gonna get got. 895 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: You know this the Get God Pod, right, And you know, 896 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 3: obviously y'all were playing Philly a few years. 897 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: You know it was Philly because I drove up there. 898 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: And me and Besmo had an interview and he famously said, 899 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 3: you know, everybody gonna get got. I'm just gonna get 900 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: mine more often than I get got. 901 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 902 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: And so we always ask our guests do they have 903 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: a get God story? Now, I know you got a 904 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: lot of stories, and I'm sure you've gotten got a 905 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: few times in your life, you know what I'm saying, 906 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 3: Do you have a great get God story that you 907 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: could share with us on the pod today or when 908 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: you got somebody or when you got you got two 909 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five transactions? 910 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? First here people, So I know. 911 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: It's a lot uh you know, Yeah, there's a lot 912 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: of there's a lot of a lot of opportunities to 913 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: get got. 914 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 8: And it's happened to me enough times. And I always 915 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 8: like the other guys to learn the hard way. I 916 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 8: hate learning the hard way, you know, But I don't 917 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 8: know that there's there's anything, uh, any one particular. You know, 918 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 8: there's some really significant things that happened, and I mean 919 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 8: you can. 920 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 7: You guys can kind of mark them. 921 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: You know. 922 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 8: It's getting to Seattle, getting the Seattle, getting back to 923 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 8: the NFL, and having a chance to prove it, you 924 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 8: know that what we were doing at SC all those 925 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 8: years could could be accepted. Because when I went into Seattle, 926 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 8: I didn't know, you know, I wasn't sure. I kind 927 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 8: of did, but I was unsure that the league would 928 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 8: take to us having so much fun and join the 929 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 8: stuff that we do in caring for people the way 930 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 8: we wanted to care for him and all that. And 931 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 8: then I learned how to do it even more, you know, 932 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 8: in the time we were there. But uh, that was 933 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 8: that was a big opportunity. I love NFL, you know, 934 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 8: And I was there for seventeen years, and then I 935 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 8: went back to college, you know, and and uh, you know, 936 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 8: for another you know whatever all those years and then damn. 937 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 7: And then came. 938 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 8: So it was always getting back to getting back to 939 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 8: But it's the real one is still out there. 940 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 7: The real one's still out there. 941 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: Real one is still out there. 942 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go do this one more time. 943 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 8: Let's go do this one more time, and uh and 944 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,479 Speaker 8: and and get it done again. 945 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: We were garbage in twenty ten. No coach, you know 946 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: that right. We want that good at twenty we want 947 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: a playoff game. But we won't that good. You know 948 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, team staff, And we went to the playoffs. 949 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: We won a game. I'm just saying, you know what 950 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, But we want that good. 951 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: We want to savage the first playoff game to. 952 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: My first playoff game was my first. Remember after the 953 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 3: Tampa game on the plane, you came in the back 954 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 3: and said, all right, guys, I know we just got 955 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: our ass whipped. Don't look at the film. There's a 956 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 3: championship opportunity next week. We get to play the Rams 957 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,479 Speaker 3: for the division. You know what I'm saying. 958 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: And we got excited. Charlie Whitehurs went out there and won. 959 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Last one I. 960 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 8: Know was it wasn't a Tampa game. The Tampa game 961 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 8: that hassel Back pulled this butt muscle or something scoring. 962 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I already got a first down on the 963 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: quarterback sneaked that game, man, You know what I'm saying. 964 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: That action I remember that, man. 965 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: We won the division with seven wins. Man, what's your 966 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: thoughts on possible You know you still think the division 967 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: winners should be the. 968 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I wasn't voting for that other rule, you know, 969 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 7: I was. I was voting for the division winning. 970 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 8: I just like the structure, you know, I'm more fashioned 971 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 8: about it, maybe whatever, but I like the structure, and 972 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 8: I like the championship within the championship. 973 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 7: You know, that's just part of it. 974 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 8: Remember I said, you know, on the NFC West was 975 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 8: our deal and on the NFC West is what it 976 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 8: is now. And if you do that now, you set 977 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 8: up for the next you know, the next cycle of 978 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 8: championship running. 979 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 7: And so. 980 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: I like that. 981 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 8: Remember what we did with it the freaking game. Nobody 982 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 8: would ever have thought. We said, oh, this is the 983 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 8: worst matchup in the history of the NFL. 984 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 7: Maybe get murdered. 985 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 8: And Coach, I remember the whole week we didn't even 986 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 8: get weren't even close to getting murdered going away. 987 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 3: No, I remember that week Coach was saying, Dude, they 988 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: played three games in like fifteen days or something like that. 989 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 3: They're not gonna They're gonna come into a bus off 990 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: when they walk up in here. And we went out 991 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 3: there and we when we beat that ass man. Coach, Carol, 992 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 3: thank you for coming about to get got today. 993 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: Man, we appreciate it. Man, appreciate it. 994 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: Any time you meet us higher at us coach, we 995 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: definitely anytime you. 996 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 8: Guys will be in Vegas. I know I know he's 997 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 8: gonna be in Vegas right anytime. I love seeing you guys, 998 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 8: get whenever whatever. All right, you got parking spot, you're 999 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 8: coming in. Let me know how you can have my 1000 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 8: parking spot. 1001 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: Well, I used to use your against Seattle too. 1002 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: So one of your linebacks, one of your rookie linebackers 1003 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 3: from Richmond to man uh out of Indiana, out of 1004 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: our U. 1005 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: So tell him. I said, what's up, man. 1006 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 7: Okay, you got it? You got to take care of 1007 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 7: you guys anytime. 1008 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 4: Tip, I mean, I know I'm gonna get got, but 1009 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get mine more than I get. 1010 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 5: God though, two folk for the one time I'm gonna 1011 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 5: get got better. 1012 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: I bet I get your mind. 1013 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 5: Two voted two six. And if I get got, then 1014 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 5: you know what I'm gonna get