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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. It is a brand new week here, Yeah, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: beautiful day to a beautiful day. There are some rain

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Speaker 2: coming here a little bit later, which makes sense because

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Speaker 2: of course, my baseball season starts tonight.

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Speaker 3: The baseball stuff kicks off. I'm sure it's going to

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Speaker 3: rain right about six o'clock. Here it throws, the first

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Speaker 3: pitch is thrown, and then here comes the rain.

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Speaker 2: But that's baseball in western Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: April. Baseball can't be easy to navigate.

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Speaker 2: It is not. This draft not exactly easy to navigate

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Speaker 2: as well, But.

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Speaker 3: It's right on the corner now, it is right around.

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Speaker 2: Steelers had three more visitors today. As I mentioned last week,

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Speaker 2: they were going to have a Syracuse quarterback, Calle mccordion.

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Speaker 2: Well that happened today, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: They also brought in Minnesota cornerback Justin Wally.

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Speaker 3: Really he's a much better player. We never talked about him.

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Speaker 2: I like him a lot a feisty, kind of slut guy.

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Speaker 2: And Texas running back Jaden Blue.

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Speaker 3: Okay, another explosive, sort of smaller, let's sort of blue.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about Sampson, We've talked about Henderson, we've talked

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Speaker 3: about touton Blues as fast as any of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a little smaller. I think he'd definitely be your kickoff

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Speaker 3: returner from day one. Work them into the mix. But explosive, explosive, explosive.

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Speaker 3: McCord is interesting. I mean, I forget what the podcast

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Speaker 3: I was on is like McCord's a tough sell to

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburghers because they watched they.

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Speaker 2: Watched the pick game.

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Speaker 3: But since then he kind of called him down quite

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Speaker 3: a bit. Then he is a risk taker. He is

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Speaker 3: some Jamis Winston Fitzpatrick to him. I thought he had

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Speaker 3: a really good year and I think there's tools there

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Speaker 3: for sure, Like I think he could be a long term.

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Speaker 2: I think he's he's a better player to me than Howard.

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Speaker 3: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: People will say, well, you got to take Howard because

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Speaker 2: you know McCord's the better player.

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Speaker 3: Right now, but yeah, right, I agree, I'd rather McCord

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Speaker 3: than Howard. Yeah, for the pros going forward. I think

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Speaker 3: he throws a ball better. I think he's more gifted,

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Speaker 3: not as a good athlete, but had very little round him,

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Speaker 3: especially compared to Howard and Wally is a do it

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Speaker 3: all fifth round corner. That's I think he's gonna stick

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Speaker 3: in the league. Yeah, those all add up. It's a playmaker.

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Speaker 2: And so the Steelers still have a few visits left

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Speaker 2: to hold here. These are all the time though, these

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Speaker 2: are all later round guys, you know, so again they

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Speaker 2: canvas you know, all the different areas of the draft

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Speaker 2: in terms of absolutely what rounds they bring guys in

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Speaker 2: is there's no necessarily I mean we see rhyme or

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Speaker 2: running backs, defensive backs, defensive linemen, those kind of things

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Speaker 2: obviously the obvious needs. But again throughout the draft, and

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Speaker 2: just because they bring a doesn't mean they're absolutely going

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Speaker 2: to draft him. No, but there's some kind of interest there.

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Speaker 3: There was a high percentage of their picks last year,

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Speaker 2: When it's just been maybe one guy that came in.

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Speaker 3: For has to fall that way and they're gonna leave

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Speaker 3: the visit saying, oh we like him. He might leave

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Speaker 3: a visit going. Questions we whened answered were answered but

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Speaker 3: not in a positive way, or you know, or I

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Speaker 3: don't really want to be around him or whatever. But no,

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Speaker 3: I definitely think running back is no surprise, very much

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Speaker 3: be maybe it's a smaller, super fast guy. I don't know. Well, again,

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Speaker 3: you canvas they brought in the little guys, they brought

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Speaker 2: It depends on what the draft offers to you. You

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Speaker 2: can't just say we're going to take a big back, right,

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Speaker 2: no matter what. Well, there's like four of them in

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Speaker 3: I just don't know that Blue or Samson or a

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to adjust your game to what

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Speaker 2: college football is producing. Absolutely, and the smaller backs are

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Speaker 3: And the system too. It's year two of Arthur Smith's offense.

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Speaker 3: Nause was not an outside zone, get to the edge,

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Speaker 3: the league's telling you we're not going to let you

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Speaker 3: have explosives through the air with these two high safeties.

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Speaker 3: Eagles the perfect example. And I'm not implying Blue is Saquon,

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Speaker 2: Us, right, just changing gears a little bit here. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about the TJ. Wat

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Speaker 2: situation because I hear and I see this on the

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Speaker 2: message boards a lot too. I wouldn't pay him forty

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Speaker 2: million dollars. That's too much money to pay. How many

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Speaker 2: playoff wins have you gotten with TJ? Wat?

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Speaker 3: Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, they haven't won a super Bowl with TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt. They have not.

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Speaker 2: They have not. They didn't win a super Bowl with

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Speaker 2: Touch and Wolf Right, Lewis Lips, DERMANI Dawson, Greg Lloyd, Yeah, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: I can go, Rod Woodson didn't win here. There's been

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they were bad investments.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they were bad investments, doesn't mean they were

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Speaker 2: bad players. Many of them have gone on the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame stuff, And you don't win without those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sitting here thinking even from a different perspective,

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Speaker 3: Bowl wins for all those two Should they not keep

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Speaker 2: And too many people are looking at a potential what contract. Well,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay them forty million dollars for first of all,

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Speaker 2: you don't have forty million dollars, so you're completely out

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Speaker 2: you're budgeting.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to buy a new car. Okay, how much

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Speaker 3: Was five years ago for the Steelers and thirty one organization. Correct,

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Speaker 3: they're making more and they're spending more.

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Speaker 2: When TJ. Watt signed his last contract, the salary cap

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Speaker 2: was about one hundred million dollars less than what it

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Speaker 2: is now hundred million, right, Yeah, when he signs the.

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Speaker 3: New deal, when you signed a forty million dollar deal,

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Speaker 3: then then lose your mind because that's breaking that ast quarterback, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the time any new contract for what would

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Speaker 2: that kind of money would be paid out, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be three another year from now, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: another thirty million dollar bumping the salary cap. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean it's going up at a You.

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Speaker 3: It's all about the cap hit percentage, percentage of cap space,

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Speaker 2: And again, if you're not paying a quarterback big money,

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Speaker 3: And I can't really envision a scenario where they will

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Speaker 3: of years. No, I mean it would have to be, oh,

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Speaker 3: And even then you wouldn't have it wouldn't paid the

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Speaker 3: mean it's not going to be a Rogers situation. He's

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Speaker 3: not going to make insane money. You know, if he

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Speaker 3: that's the other thing I thought, this is where you're

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Speaker 3: going with it. Two, it's like he's not worth forty million. Well,

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Speaker 3: they have a lot of cap space too. I mean

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Speaker 3: that does not and you have the floor right right right,

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Speaker 3: I mean they got a lot of caps still this

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to just sit on it.

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Speaker 3: They have it to spend. It's not like should we

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Speaker 3: him or not? It is really the question.

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Speaker 2: The other part of this argument.

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Speaker 3: We were talking little pirates before the show started today.

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Speaker 3: The same people who will tell you that TJ. Watt

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Speaker 3: they haven't won anything with TJ. Want, they haven't won

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Speaker 3: anything with MAKEA Fitzpatrick, et cetera, et cetera. Can't sign

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Speaker 3: those guys these big contracts. Doesn't mean they're losers, by

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Speaker 2: Not but they're also the same people who get angry

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Speaker 2: when the pirates don't spend any money. They don't they

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Speaker 2: don't want to spend why they're going. They just trade

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Speaker 2: pay them. You can't have it both ways. Either you're

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Speaker 2: keeping your good players or you're not keeping your good players.

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Speaker 2: One team does it and the other the other team

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Speaker 3: You're paying dies or not right, and they're gonna pay TJ.

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Speaker 3: They should pay TJ. I would imagine my only reservation

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Speaker 3: wall it'll happened something, or when he gets old. But

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Speaker 3: he's showing no signs of what's the deal structured in

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Speaker 3: that point you built, You structured the deal that and

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Speaker 3: I would say, that's what the contract is going to reflect, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you really, I mean, if you were,

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Speaker 3: bet we'll look at it like three years from now,

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Speaker 3: every year right right right now, or could restructure or

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Speaker 3: pay him now for not pass services for what he

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Speaker 3: is today, which is a great player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean last year or two years ago

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Speaker 2: that guy the last two years. I'm like, they're nuts.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see two years ago when he had nineteen

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Speaker 3: Last year he was great last year. Yeah, he's one

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Speaker 3: of the best defensive players in the league.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, he didn't have he didn't have any

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Speaker 2: stats in the playoffs because his job was to go

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Speaker 2: after the running back and Lamar was keeping the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did his job on the field. He played

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Speaker 2: You would you would rather trade dj Want for brock

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Speaker 3: There's also a culture involved you, and there's that, and

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Speaker 2: They'll trade me right right right. I've got no future here,

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Speaker 3: He's an all time great. Somebody has said that about

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Speaker 3: Right now, I mean kind of like back to your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when the Pirates trade away Paul Skins in a

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Speaker 3: Complain about that. Complain about that, gar Cole or whoever

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's exact same thing. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 2: We must trade on chance. Just trade him now, nuts.

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Speaker 3: Right as they should now. Is there a time a

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Speaker 3: I don't see that being now at.

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Speaker 3: Being asked for about Hayward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he ends

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Speaker 2: The numbers when he plays versus when he doesn't play

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Speaker 3: And it goes back years and years. I mean, sacks, pressures, run, defense,

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Speaker 2: Every team coming in to play the Pittsburgh Steelers says,

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Speaker 2: how do we how do? What do we have to

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Speaker 3: Really, all you have to do is turn on all

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Speaker 3: There are three pretty smart on that side of the field,

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Speaker 2: Think about the Giants game last year, and they were

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm also a believer that anyone could have

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Speaker 2: Oh you know again, he the other team would be

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Speaker 3: Oh he's worth it. That he's worth it, that Khalil

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Speaker 3: The idea you don't just step out there with one

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Speaker 2: Watt didn't win a playoff game. No, the Steelers didn't win.

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Speaker 3: A playoff game, right, and he's one of the few

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Speaker 3: You don't trade those away, No, you'd have to blow

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Speaker 3: Rock Party, it's not rock Perty, right, That's not what

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for. I don't Rock Party doesn't help me

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Speaker 3: That's why I don't want dart Or sand especially.

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Speaker 2: I don't have t J.

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Speaker 2: If I had Rock Party and TJ what now, I might.

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Speaker 3: Have a chance, right, I mean, frankly, Party's better than Rudolph,

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Speaker 2: No, I want I want to. I want to hit

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Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Drive here on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt. Matt Miller has come

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Speaker 3: I saw that didn't even click off. I say, wow,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you doing.

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Speaker 2: Well for his top fifty guys. He has come through

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, lately too yeah, roll.

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Speaker 2: Through those and let's see what we agree with what

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Speaker 3: It's just too convenient. He's eleven Penn State linebacker turned edge.

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Speaker 3: I'll take Parsons all day long. I mean, Carter's really

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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of the way they move, size,

435
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 3: all those things. Odell was a more developed out runner

436
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 3: because he's a full time receiver. Yeah, I don't have

437
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: a problem with that.

438
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty is Alvin Kamara. I don't agree with that one.

439
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 2: I see more Ladanian Tomlinson.

440
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: I think really good comparison.

441
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamar is not a run between the tackles kind

442
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: of guy.

443
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: Gent.

444
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 2: He can run between the tackles in a big way.

445
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: The big one I hear why I hear Kamara a

446
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: lot is just the contact balance. It's crazy, you know,

447
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 3: and they both have that.

448
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: H Mason Graham is Christian Wilkins. I don't see that either.

449
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: It's okay. I mean he's Wilkins is not an overwhelming

450
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 3: physical specimen. Yeah, it's okay.

451
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Walker is Harold Landry the third maybe, but there's

452
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 2: not many comparisons for him now. I still look at

453
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: him as an inside linebacker. I know not everybody does,

454
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't. But how many six

455
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: one and forty pounds edge rushers.

456
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: He'd be a three to four outside line if the

457
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 3: Steelers drafted him. I think he would be an outside

458
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: guy at an edge that maybe flirted with inside. But

459
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: these teams that are four man fronts all the time,

460
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 3: he's too small. I think I don't think he can

461
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 3: do that. And people seem to love him like he's

462
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: just flying up with draft boards. I get all the

463
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: character stuff and athlete stuff, but the problem is there

464
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: isn't a camp right Who is he? You know, Colston

465
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: Loveland is not James Harrison.

466
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: No, No, Colston Loveland is Sam Laporta.

467
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: That's a good one. The one thing about Laporta versus Warren,

468
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: Laporta's better at getting open on his own us. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah,

469
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: I think he's better at getting open on his own

470
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: as opposed to being schemed up. I heard the craziest

471
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: stat and I double checked it. He missed three games

472
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 3: last year. And I know Michigan is not exactly thrown

473
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: all over the field and eight quarterback issues, but in

474
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 3: the three games he missed last year, combined, they threw

475
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: for one hundred and forty six yards in three games.

476
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't uncommon for them to throw one

477
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: to fifty a game anyway, but still you combined for

478
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: three three one hundred and forty six yards the games

479
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: he was out.

480
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: Will Johnson, the is Trayvon Diggs, he had his pro day.

481
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: His personal workout today did not run all right. It's

482
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: a huge red flag for me.

483
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: Huge red flag. I mean, at that position more than

484
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: any other, I want some kind of time. He's going

485
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: to be a pretty high pick without a forty for

486
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: a corner.

487
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: Like he did some of the agility drills and things

488
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: of that, and.

489
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: He's good, good with that, and everyone said his drills

490
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: were really smooth and look good. And I think you

491
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 3: all left it was fine, right, Like I'd be pretty

492
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: ticked off if I was a scout and flew to

493
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 3: ann Arbor really just to see a forty and you

494
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: still didn't do that.

495
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean what if piece of four

496
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: or five eight guy like he.

497
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: Might be worse, right, you know what I mean? Now

498
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: they do have GPS numbers on these guys that they

499
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 3: didn't back in the day. I looked at him more

500
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: like a Richard Sherman. I think he's a cover three

501
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: off the ball, see things, go get it. I don't

502
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: think he's a press you at, turn and run type

503
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: of dude in the league.

504
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: Maybe he goes to Pete Carroll.

505
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: I thought that too. Yeah, I mean, if they don't

506
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: go genty, maybe Carroll just says the other thing about that.

507
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: Brady's a Michigan guy. The GM they just hired Michigan guy.

508
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: You know there's some connections there.

509
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: Kelvin Banks is Rashaun Slater.

510
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: Much other Slater. Yeah, I think Slater's one of the

511
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: best left tackles of the league.

512
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren is Greg Olsen not bad.

513
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: I mean Olsen, how old I am. I remember Olsen

514
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: coming out of Wayne Hills whenever he was a five

515
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: star recruit. Watched his high school tape. He was phenomenal

516
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: and then he was really really good with Miamie. Warren

517
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: might be a little more versatile.

518
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Armand Membo is Jason Peters.

519
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: Not bad, Shorter than ideal to great athlete, natural power

520
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: and base and things like that. It's funny. I mean

521
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: he I don't know if he can be a left

522
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: tackle or not. He just hasn't been. He's never never

523
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: asked him to be, and they just plugged him at

524
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: right tackle and he stayed there. But last year every

525
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: tackle switched sides. John A.

526
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Baron is Cooper Dejeene.

527
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Jean's bigger, bigger, Yeah, I bet Baron's

528
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: more fluid. He's not much bigger. James a shade over

529
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: six one ish. I thought he was like a shade

530
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: over six six foot, but I could be wrong. Yeah,

531
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: I bet he's got fifteen pounds on him.

532
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: Though Baron came in at one ninety four at the

533
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: cause that heavy. I was thinking he was, like it

534
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: still ran well oh yeah, yeah, so I assume he

535
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: dropped some weight at the combine. Probably probably Will Campbell

536
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: is Dion Dawkins.

537
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know dawkins arm length. Dawkins is a

538
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: little uh thicker in the middle.

539
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

540
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh. Luther Burden is Stefan Diggs. I'm not agree

541
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: with many of these, and I'm not agree with that

542
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: one at all, not at all to me. I think

543
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: Diggs as route runner technician, I don't see I don't

544
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: see Burden doing that. A lot of it's usage, but

545
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's debo either. Everyone's like, oh he's debo.

546
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: He's definitely not that.

547
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: No, he's really good after the catch, but he's not

548
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: a technician. Cam Ward. I actually like this one, Jordan Love.

549
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, gunslinger. Yeah, has that mentality,

550
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: a lot of ability, but isn't true runner, but is

551
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: good enough to Yeah, I'll take that.

552
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: Gehad Campbell Edger and Cooper.

553
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: Maybe a lot more edge potential, I mean pass rush

554
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: potential than Cooper. Cooper really wasn't a linebacker in college.

555
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: He was kind of like an overhang. Yeah, you know,

556
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: but athletically they're similar.

557
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden the compass Garrett Wilson.

558
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: He hopes, but they have Stylistically that's not crazy. Yeah,

559
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm really impressed with Wilson.

560
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Mike Green the comp is Will Anderson.

561
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: Anderson's more physical and better against the run for me,

562
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: but they're both high end pass rusher. Yeah.

563
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't understand why Mike Green's not getting more. I mean,

564
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: I know there's some off the field stuff, but if

565
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: that all checks out, it's right. Yeah, I don't understand

566
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: why he's not higher.

567
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: I agree, it kind of goes back to even like

568
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: the Walker conversation that I are these teams really gonna

569
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: want two hundred and forty pound edge guys that are

570
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: Phase four three teams. I mean not the Green's huge,

571
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: but I look at like Michael Williams. At least he

572
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: has the length. At least he has the length. I mean, like,

573
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: I bet Michael Williams goes higher than you think because

574
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: he can be on the field every down for sure,

575
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: and I think Green can too.

576
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: Nick Emuari the comp is Derwin James.

577
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: I guess, but James was a much better prospect than

578
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: the same age.

579
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the size, I get it, okay, yeah,

580
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: yea yeah, But.

581
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: I mean James was a killer at Florida State.

582
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: O'marion Hampton. The comp is Breese Hall.

583
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: Good one. I probably like Hall a little better. I

584
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: also know more about him now. It's hard to remember

585
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: what you thought of him.

586
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: And the contact balance was big with Hall.

587
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both have home run, They're both good receivers.

588
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: I would say Hall is probably a better receiver.

589
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan the comp is Ed Oliver.

590
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: He's bigger. Oliver's little.

591
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: He's a bigger like Oliver coming out was two hundred

592
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: and eighty pounds.

593
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: He also tested like a linebacker. Yeah, like his testing nuts.

594
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: He was little. I mean he better, you know, that's

595
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: why you become a friend.

596
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: They are both the penetrating type.

597
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're both very talented. Yeah, I don't hate

598
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Nolan's not as huge as you think. Yeah,

599
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: Herman's bigger. You know, some of the guys we talk

600
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: about are bigger.

601
00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: Malachi Starks the comp is Brian Branch. Maybe he could

602
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: drop down and play this smart. He could do a

603
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: lot of things for you. It could be a glue guy.

604
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Neither is going to blow your doors off with forty times, okay.

605
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: Teed McMillan. The comp is Michael Thomas.

606
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 3: Slants and contested stuff and real well yeah, I would

607
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: say more in the Sutton Mold.

608
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Meccagbuka the comp is Lad Mconkeye. I like

609
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: Lad Maconkie a lot better than I like the Buka.

610
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: I like both.

611
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't hate it.

612
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think in terms of usage would

613
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: be similar. Buka is probably more physical. Mconkey's quicker and

614
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: more explosive and better on breaking out routes and things

615
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: like that.

616
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Tyler Booker. The comp is Tyler Smith.

617
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Tyler

618
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: Smith's really good.

619
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. The comp is Jared Goff. Yeah, you would

620
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: hope that he turned into Jared.

621
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see more. You know, I've heard Bridgewater as

622
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: a comp, which isn't flattering. No, Gof's got a better arm.

623
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, can throw the football.

624
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: He can really throw it. Sanders is not a great athlete,

625
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: but he moves better than golf Derek Harmon.

626
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: The comp is Leonard Williams.

627
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: Sign me up for that. Yeah, yeah, I mean he

628
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: was like the fourth pick in the draft and was

629
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: phenomenal last year. He's lasting legal a long time. I

630
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: could see some like the Forrest Buckner with him too,

631
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: the length and disruptive Oregon.

632
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: You know, Shamar Stewart. The comp is Danielle Hunter.

633
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he had very little production and the insane

634
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: measurables at LSU. But Hunter was a third rounder, right

635
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: the fact they Stewart in the third round? Sure?

636
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

637
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: Am I taking him at ten? Right? It's the Jackson

638
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: Darktt argument. Yeah right, right, Okay, if I could get

639
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: him in the second round, yeah right, I mean right,

640
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean even Oway was like twenty eight or something

641
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: in his draft and he had production before it was

642
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: bad last year.

643
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: Mike kel Williams the compass, Trayvon Walker.

644
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an easy one. Yeah, Walker's a little more explosive.

645
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, the comp is to run Armstead.

646
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, light on his feet, good protector.

647
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant the Compass. Travis Jones.

648
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: I think he'll give you more pass rusher than Jones.

649
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: Jones isn't bad, though, No, Jones is good. Yeah, we

650
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: loved him coming out of Yukon. I hate to see

651
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: him go to the Ravens. He'd be great in the

652
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: middle of the Steelers D line right now. You'd love

653
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: that have Travis Jones. And frankly, if you took Grant

654
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: at twenty one and he turned into exactly Travis Jones,

655
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be unhappy. No, No, I do think he

656
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: is a better athlete than Jones.

657
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Trey Amos the Compass. Christian Benford, Okay, I mean it runs.

658
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: Better than ben He probably runs better than Benford. Benford's

659
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: been good in the league though, Yeah, I mean the

660
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: prospect versions different than this version of Benford.

661
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Gray's Abel The comp is Elkton Jenkins.

662
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: That's a good call. He could play all over the line. Smart, Okay,

663
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.

664
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson the comp is Isaac Saamalo.

665
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Hmm, that's fine. I guess. I know some people think

666
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: Jackson could play tackle. I think that's a stretch. I

667
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: would never ask Isaac to play tackle.

668
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: Mason Taylor the comp is Zach Ertz.

669
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: Good one, smart, knows what he's doing, moves well, block

670
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: a little.

671
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: Josh Connery the offensive tackle from Morgan. The comp is

672
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: Broderick Jones.

673
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Ooh, I think Connorly wins in a race, and it

674
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: is faster, and it's probably twenty pounds later and not

675
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: nearly as physical. I mean, Jones is.

676
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: I think Broderick's a little faster than maybe what you're

677
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: giving him credit for.

678
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: I say, Connorly's finesse ish in the way, and there's

679
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: his movement skills and traits or something to build on.

680
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: I think Broderick is more physical, thicker, stronger.

681
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: Donovan Ezerku the comp is Arnold.

682
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that doesn't sound super flattering, but he was

683
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: an early second round pick. I like.

684
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart.

685
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: Both the last names are hard to say.

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart the comp is Bo Nicks.

687
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: Fair in terms of arm athleticism, and I think Nix

688
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: is a better processor. Yeah, you know, I mean, I'll

689
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: be the first day. I didn't think Nix was a

690
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: mid first round pick when we sat here a year ago.

691
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, I thought that was the mid round. I thought

692
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: that was we had to go.

693
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

694
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Judkins the compass Joe Mixon.

695
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: How buy that it's a good one.

696
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: Traveon Henderson The comp is James Cook.

697
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: Okay. I might say Cook runs with a little more tenacity.

698
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: Henderson probably wins in a race.

699
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Noel the comp is Khalil Shakir.

700
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay. I think Noel is more verticality to him than that, though.

701
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: Jaden Higgins the other Iowa state wide receiver. The comp

702
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: is Nico Collins.

703
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: I see it. Yeah, Nico is a top five receiver

704
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: in the league right now. But I see it. But

705
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: but he Nico did income in the league as a superstar.

706
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Xavier Watts the comp is Jesse Bates.

707
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking pure centerfielder, take the ball away, smart

708
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: plays faster than any times. These are high comparisons. I

709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: mean there's perennial pro bowlers, but yeah.

710
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Maxwell Harston the comp is dex Hill.

711
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't see that, not only either. I think he's

712
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: a better version of Dante Jackson.

713
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Caleb Johnson. The comp is de Marco Murray.

714
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: That was to study Murray more, but I do remember

715
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: him being a really efficient outside zone bigger doesn't his

716
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: highlight film doesn't blow you away, but at the end

717
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: of the season, he's got fourteen hundred yards, and you know,

718
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: you're real happy about it.

719
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: I like Caleb Johnson, Carson Schwesssinger. The compass Terrell Bernard.

720
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I'll got buy that.

721
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison. The comp is Carlton.

722
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: Davis, absolutely long pressman corner, sure azeri A.

723
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: Thomas. The comp is Tarvarius Ward.

724
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how well Ward runs, but Thomas does

725
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: not run well.

726
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: It does not run well.

727
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: They're both man and man corner. Yeah.

728
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson the comp is aj epenesa.

729
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Sort of EPINESSA is more of a tough guy. He's

730
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: got more power. I think Jackson's a good ath This

731
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 3: guy's a better athlete than Bendier.

732
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Tyler Williams. The comp is bj Hill.

733
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: I'll take Williams all day long. Yeah, but I know

734
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: he's not saying they're exact. But I like Williams more

735
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: than that. Oh. I don't agree with this one at all.

736
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: Alfred Collins, who's his fiftieth rated player. The compa is

737
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: Javon Kinlaw. Kin Law has been really bad.

738
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: Alfred Collins is a beast against a run. Yeah, you

739
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: can't move him.

740
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: I mean kin Law was a mid first round pick

741
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: based on traits, length and athleticism and testing. Collins is stouter. Yeah,

742
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: and that's I mean Kinlaw has not been good in

743
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, Now maybe that's maybe he's been miscast

744
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, I mean, Washington game a ton

745
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: of money. They disagree, but yeah, you know, so those.

746
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: Are his top fifty. We'll get to some of the

747
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: other ones here when we come back. He is the

748
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We're going through Matt

749
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Miller's top six hundred here. We're not going to do

750
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: all six hundred on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

751
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: with more right after this.

752
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

753
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven, Home of the

754
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation.

755
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is

756
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. We're looking here at Matt Miller's top

757
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: six hundred list on ESPN here, and I just will

758
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: hit on some of the endeavor that is.

759
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: But I guess no one really facts check you from

760
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: like four hundred on.

761
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Probably not.

762
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 3: No one's like you got him five hundred and fifty fifth,

763
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: he should be four hundred and second.

764
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: What is interesting is to see how he rates some

765
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: of these guys a little bit differently than what you

766
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: see on some of the other places. His number fifty

767
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: one player Ty Robinson, defensive tack of Nebraska.

768
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: We're on board with that.

769
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: Finally somebody's on my guy.

770
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, give him some attention. I just yeah, I mean,

771
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: I just think he could play anywhere on the defensive line.

772
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: I could put nos and be and it'll be fine

773
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: for spot duty or whatever. Right fifty three he has

774
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: Jack Beck Okay, the wide receiver at a TCU big fan.

775
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I don't think ran a forty, but yeah, probably shouldn't.

776
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: Uh, Chavon Revel all the way down at fifty seven

777
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: for the cornerback from East Carolina.

778
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: It's funny. We were going over Dane's top one hundred

779
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: today and he had Revel and Benjamin pretty darn late,

780
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 3: but he didn't have Simmons, the Ohio State tackle late.

781
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: Like I'm wondering, what are these guys hearing medically on

782
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: some of these dudes?

783
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Yeah, he has Anthony Belton, the offensive

784
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: tackle from enc He stayed at fifty nine. Pretty high,

785
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: that's pretty high.

786
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fan though.

787
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tate Ratledge to guard from Georgia at sixty three.

788
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: I like both of Georgia guard. Yeah, they're both good.

789
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: They end up being the right neighborhood. I could see

790
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: the Steers scarfone.

791
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: One Darius Alexander the defensive alignment from Toledo at sixty five. Yes,

792
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: that's fair, minuds stand and he will make a visit

793
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: to the Steelers here sometime this week. He'd be a

794
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: really good fit here. Yeah, let's see here.

795
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: We got Josh Farmer, the defensive tackle from Florida State

796
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: at seventy one. I've seen a lot of analysts call

797
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: him more of a three technique maybe even three four

798
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: end I guess because the other length. Yeah, he's got

799
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: the arm length. Doesn't mean your nose is have to

800
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: have short arms? No, get all right, But I think

801
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: he gives more than just a nose. I think we

802
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: pigeonholed him there a little bit.

803
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck is the quarterback from Louisville at seventy three.

804
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, it's interesting. Dane has Shuck and Dart right next

805
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: to each other. I forget where they're at, like in

806
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: the mid forties or something like that.

807
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: He isn't headed. Dart hasn't been mentioned yet.

808
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: He has of Dart. Yeah, I would too, I think.

809
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: And I also did I not see I did see Shooter? Yeah,

810
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: Shdor was on there. Uh so now let's see Shuck.

811
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Then you're looking at Jalen Royals, the Utah state wide

812
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: receiver seventy six. Funny bring him up. I say this,

813
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: I feel like every show. But I was listening to

814
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: a podcast on the way here, and I was listening

815
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: to Cosel go through his receivers. He sees a lot

816
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: of racy rice in him.

817
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: I can see which.

818
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: I can see that too. He's really hard to tackle.

819
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: He's big and physical. He ran well, but he doesn't

820
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: play like a burner, you know. Like a route runner

821
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: over the middle.

822
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Yous don't really have that guy get that, get those

823
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: crossers over the middle. He's going to beat guys across

824
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: the middle just because.

825
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 3: Of big body. Dude. I mean, if he's sitting around

826
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: the fourth round, I like a top on that. Yeah.

827
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: RJ. Harvey, the running back from UCF at seventy eight.

828
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: I think he's a quality player too. Yeah, Quinn Ewers

829
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: at eighty. I know he's been injured, but every time

830
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: I watch him, I think, why is he a prospect now?

831
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't throw the ball that well, He's not that big.

832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: He's been injured a bunch. He's had four NFL wideouts

833
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: that are all going to get drafted high, and two

834
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: tight ends and two running over the last two years.

835
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman and right.

836
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: And like he said, it's an Ohio State like situation.

837
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: Noel Williams, the cornerback from col at eighty one.

838
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: I like where the negatives are?

839
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean I don't either.

840
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean he's a four file guy at the combine

841
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: you can look at Okay, he's not a burner, right,

842
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: but he's a man coverage guy.

843
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: It takes the ball away.

844
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not asking him to be Deanna Reeves. You know,

845
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: i'man to just maybe be a two or.

846
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: Three for you know, Jylen Milroe at eighty two.

847
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: Pretty low. I mean, I totally understand why he's a

848
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: very decisive prospect.

849
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Let's see here Will Howard at eighty five.

850
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he's a little more athletic version of Rudolph.

851
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 2: Did I miss Jackson?

852
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: Third? Here somewhere there's people that aren't.

853
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: Oh no, he was in the top fifty.

854
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: He was.

855
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: He was the top fifty. That was his comp was.

856
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: The Denver quarterback Bo Nicks. Oh yeah, yeah, we went

857
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: over that. Kay, yep, I'm sure people were in the

858
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: scream at thirty. Yeah, tell me he's Kyle Williams, the

859
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: Washington state wide receiver at eighty nine. I might take

860
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: him higher than that. I like him too, the more

861
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: I look into him. There's eight receivers or so in

862
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: the mid rounds mentioned Royals mentioned him that I would

863
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: that I'm growing fonder and fonder of Yeah, you know

864
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: that it can be not being slept on, but just

865
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: not being talked about as high as they should go.

866
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord at ninety in town today and down today, TJ. Sanders,

867
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle from South Carolina at ninety one.

868
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: I think he fits here. I originally thought he was

869
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: three technique only undersized.

870
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: He's sixty four, he's six to four. The arm length

871
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: is fine, fine, right, right, a little bit right. Charles Grant,

872
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from William and Mary at ninety two.

873
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a bargain.

874
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: Cam scatter Boat at ninety four.

875
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

876
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley, the Louisville cornerback at ninety five. Nobody in

877
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: this draft this season, this year has taken the ball

878
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: away more than Quincy Riley.

879
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

880
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: All he does is take the ball away.

881
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: I bet he goes in the third round. Yeah, I'd

882
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: be no problem with that at all. JJ Pegese, the

883
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: defensive tackle from will Miss at ninety seven. It seems

884
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: about right.

885
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: You're looking at Ousie Trapello, the offensive tackle from Boston

886
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: College at one hundred. I don't think the offensive tackle

887
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: has bumped up a little bit higher than maybe some

888
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: of the other stuff that you see out there.

889
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: I'd be sure it's probably right. Yeah, I mean in

890
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: terms of where they're going to go. Yeah, I bet

891
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: your peo doesn't get out of the top seventy.

892
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: Five, but he's lower on Arianta Ursery than a lot

893
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: of people. The offensive tackle on Minnesota one to five

894
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: for him.

895
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: I was on a different podcast today talking about you're

896
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: asking who are the guys no one's mocking in the

897
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: first round that could sneak in And I picked him,

898
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: you know, I mean Eagles and Chiefs at the end

899
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: of round one. He's huge, tested better than he looks

900
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: on tape, but he took really good athlete and the

901
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: bottom eyes he's a tackle, right, I mean tackles. We

902
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: were taking this off of Dane's top one hundred. I

903
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: think he was like forty six or forty five and

904
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: Danes top one hundred, and I'm like, if you're a tackle,

905
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: kind of like the quarterback, you know, nudge. If you're

906
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: a tackle, that's the forty fifth player overall, you probably

907
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: go in the first round most years.

908
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Jacob Parrish, the little feisty corner from

909
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: the K State at one oh seven.

910
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: If he was two inches taller, we're talking about him

911
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: in mid first round. Bayelle Tuton and Dj Giddens, the

912
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: running backs out of Virginia Tech and K State, are

913
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: at one twelve and one thirteen. If you'd take one

914
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: of those two for the Steelers, who who's your pick?

915
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: I see both sides, I see both sides. Yeah, yeah yeah.

916
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: And people have this idea that Bayelle Tuton is small.

917
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: He's a two hundred and ten pound running back.

918
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Now he's got BMI. I mean he's a big, strong,

919
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: he looks good. He's just not super tall. Yeah. Giddins

920
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: is a little taller than i'd like. There's times that.

921
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: Yeah he gets a little high.

922
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

923
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Emery Jones out of LSU, the offensive lineman at one

924
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: twenty one.

925
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: He's a drive favorite.

926
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: Alekayemanor all the way down at one twenty four for

927
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: I'd love.

928
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: For him be sitting there with absolutely one hundred and

929
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: twenty guys are picked.

930
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: Jaden Blue, who was in for the Steelers today. They

931
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: are running back out of Texas at one twenty nine.

932
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's probably running back ten or so for Matt.

933
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Cam Jackson, the big nose tackle out

934
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: of Florida at one thirty seven.

935
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: We should lump him in with the mid round noses

936
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: more often than we do.

937
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: It's a good player.

938
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: He's six six. Yeah, he's not he's a monster at

939
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: six one. Yeah, he's just a little Shelby, but he's

940
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: a humans us yo. Yeah, has him ahead of Omar

941
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: Norman Lot who is at one thirty eight. So couldn't

942
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: be any different.

943
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they could not. Logan Brown, who we've talked

944
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: about at times, the offensive tackle one of Texas or Kansas,

945
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: I should say, is at one forty one.

946
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: If the off the field stuff's clean, I think there's

947
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: a lot to work with there.

948
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: Deane Walker at one forty three. Did you see what

949
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: happened with him?

950
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: He had a he had a stress fracture in his

951
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: back that showed up on the medicals. Wow, well that

952
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: might translates the tape. Yeah, explain some of the issues

953
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: that hard to stay low stiff. I mean, I can't

954
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: imagine being It doesn't make me want him more though, no,

955
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: you know it does not. But I feel bad for

956
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: the guy.

957
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: Jamari Calbwell, the defensive tackle out of Oregon all the

958
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: way down at one forty four.

959
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're talking. Yeah, those noses not named Walker

960
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: in that neighborhood.

961
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: Jay Toya, the nose tackle out of UCLA.

962
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: We don't talk about him either, but he's good player.

963
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a fifth to six round pick that

964
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: I bet sticks in the league. Is a run stuffer,

965
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: old school nose. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Elijah Roberts out

966
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: of SMU, the edge rusher. He's at one fifty three.

967
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: Let's see Mitchell Evans, a tight end at an ned

968
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 3: to name at one fifty seven.

969
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: What else we got here? We got CJ.

970
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: West, the nose tackle out of Indiana, all the way

971
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: down at one sixty eight. Seems low to me. Yeah,

972
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: good player, pretty high. Good player in the third round.

973
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Let's see here Josh Gray, who we've taken a lot

974
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: in late rounds, the guard out of Oregon State at

975
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: one seventy nine. Up in Stout, the nickelback out of

976
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky at one eighty one.

977
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: Can you see them taking a true nickel? I think Stout.

978
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean we picked him before like free agency. He's

979
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: just a good player. He's gonna be so good on

980
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: special teams. He has a little bit of safety background.

981
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: I just don't know if I need another ten and

982
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: under guy after signing.

983
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: He is a little guy.

984
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: He's small. Yeah.

985
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: On the other side of that, Zah Frasier out of

986
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: a UTSA is at one eighty three.

987
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: Like they're both on the board. Frasier for the Steelers. Yeah,

988
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: but the other guy's a better football player right now,

989
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: right yeah.

990
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: And then number two hundred for him was Isaac Tesla

991
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: all the way down at one ninety seven to the

992
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: wide receivers.

993
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: He's another working saw. I'm that's the neighborhood. I'm liking

994
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: these receivers. He's one of them.

995
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: Number number two hundred is Thomas Fedone, the tight end

996
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: out of Nebraska.

997
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: I don't know a ton about him, but there are

998
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people that.

999
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: Lobby for him. Ran Well and duality. Yeah, but anyways,

1000
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: let's get to a break. That's just kind of looking

1001
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: real quick at his top two hundred. They's some of

1002
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: the names.

1003
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, names, we talked a lot, a lot. You know.

1004
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

1005
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

1006
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: and I will be back with our number two right

1007
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Speaker 2: after this