1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Baltimore Ravens Lounge podcast, make sure 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: you hit that subscribe button. You can listen to the 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Lounge wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify, wherever podcasts 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: are available. Now we're going to jump into our interview 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: with Raven's defensive lineman John Jenkins. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: here with Garrett Downing and we are excited to sit 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: down with Ravens defensive tackle John Jenkins, who, by the way, 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: for listeners out there and viewers, is one of the 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: nicest dudes on team. So thank you for agreeing. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: To do this. Appreciate it. 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: So one thing I heard about you is that you're 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: really into cycling. So tell me about how that started 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: for you. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, covid just like anywhere else during that time, man, 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: just getting outside and trying to prepare myself for the season. 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: Right. 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: I had a few buddies. Zeno, Jonathan Zeno. I'm down 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: to South Florida. My buddy Grant who owns Bicycle Generation 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: down in Deerfield. Just waking up in the morning five 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: five in the morning and getting on a bike and 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: everything else was history. 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: So I in Covid, I started, I got on the peloton, 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: but you're specifically outside, not just not an inside like 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: you're actually doing it outside, you on the road. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: It was beautiful, man, because we're a trained down in 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: South Florida. I'm near A one A, right, So when 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: you're waking up in the morning, it was one of 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: those scenarios where it was like like therapeutic for me. 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm waking up before anybody is on the road with 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: these guys who was extremely successful in their own field, 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: and we're riding alongside the beach and then we get 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: coffee and then we'll ride back home and then our 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: day starts and everybody just waking up, right, So we 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: just got like thirty miles in and everybody now just 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: waking up, and I just got a chance to see 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: the beach and seeing everything and yeah, it took a 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: deep breath. So yeah, so I didn't want to stay 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: in the house. 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: That's cool. So so you it sounds like you've like 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: plugged into the community, like you've made a lot of 44 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: friends through biking and stuff. 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah. 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: At one point just highed with the with the Bears 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, and I was riding the trails, getting 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: acclimated to the trails over there, and I remember I 49 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: was looking behind me and I didn't see anybody. And 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 4: then I'm probably say, like a couple miles, you know, 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: into my ride. I looked behind me. There's like three 52 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: people behind me. And then I looked behind me again. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: There's like a whole line. And I didn't know at 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: the time, like that the Urn peloton, right, So people 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: was using me to save their energy. 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: Right behind you. 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, and then after they got done 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: using me and they keep going. So I'm like, man, 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: I forget that. I'm gonna get on your tail. And 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: that's how I made a lot of friends. Right, So 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: if you were if people who cycle, they know if 62 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: you're staying on somebody's tail long enough, and then at 63 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: some point of time, you strike a conversation like hey, 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: what's up, how are you this? And the third and 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: we're just me deep in the conversation and then we'll 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: get coffee and then we'll meet up and cycle together 67 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: as a group. 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it was cool. 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: What do they say when they realize that you're an 70 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: NFL player? 71 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: You know what. 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: The first thing they say, man, you're big on that bike, right, 73 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: and then I'm like, yeah, you know, the conversation lead 74 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: to I'm just training for the next season, you know 75 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: what season, and then I get into the whole NFL spill. 76 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: Right. 77 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't like to really come off and say 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm for the NFL, right, I just like to say 79 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm training or anything like that, and then when we. 80 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: Get into it, they understand. 81 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: It's so cool. 82 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious, Like the last bike question for you, then 83 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little football too, but like are you 84 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: what does it what does a typical ride look like 85 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: for you? And to your point, like, I don't know 86 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: how many other d tackles in the NFL are into cycling, 87 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: but like you don't. 88 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: It's a different mold. 89 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: You break the mold in terms of being a guy 90 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that's into cycling, So, like, what does a typical ride 91 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: look like? And is it kind of a unique feeling 92 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: knowing that, like you know, you break the mold of 93 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: what you would expect from a guy that's into cycling. 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: Well, the way it all depends on where you're at, Like, 95 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: so like soon as football season is over, it right, 96 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: and I get back to cycling, we call it saddle time, right, 97 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: So it's mainly like you're on the you're just going 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: on long, extensive miles at a low rate, right, like 99 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: a low speed, so you can get acclimated to being 100 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: in the saddle and building up your heart rate the 101 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: zone too, right, So you want to get in that 102 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: zone too, and just build up your stamina your heart 103 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: rate in a cardiovascular And then as you start putting 104 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: time in that in that tier, and then the next 105 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: tier is like, okay, well we're going to start pushing it, right, 106 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: So now you're trying to be able to push to 107 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: the speed and try to keep see how far you 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: can get the same distance, but at a harsher I 109 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: mean not a harsher, but a stream intense right cardiff 110 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: ascular workout. 111 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: At the time. 112 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 4: So you're just building it, building and building it and 113 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: and not a lot of detac walk. I guess a 114 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: lot more football players got into it, right that I 115 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: know of, down to South Florida, because it's easier on 116 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: the knees, right, Like we're just talking, y Lewis, Yes, yes, 117 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: was one, yeah, And I was telling I said, I 118 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: used to see Ray all the time down yeah by 119 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: dear Phil Beach like both and all that on a 120 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: one A and you know, guys, you'll see a lot 121 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: of guys at recycles as well. Right, Yeah, there's quite 122 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: a few cyclists who are former football players that cycle 123 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: down there. 124 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: All right, Can Ray just go out and do that? 125 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 5: Does he get bothered out there? If he's riding? I 126 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: feel like people will recognize Ray Lewis, Like, wait, Ray Lewis, 127 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: is his on his bike? 128 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 129 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: Well, you really don't know till you know, right, So 130 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, if somebody say, hey, Ray is cycling, 131 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: then you're like, there's not a lot of big people 132 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: that cycle that look like football players. And then it's 133 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: also like you're always on the go too, so you 134 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: don't have that Yeah. So yeah, and he trusts me. 135 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: I've seen him several times. 136 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: He moving, he's moving. 137 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: Do you have to put on weight before the seasoncause 138 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: I would imagine you lose weight during the offseason when 139 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: you're baking. 140 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: Oh man. 141 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: You know, through my career, I had the up ebbs 142 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: and flows, like some teams want me here, some teams 143 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: want me there. So it was like I try to 144 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 4: find a weight where, you know, will make both parties happy, 145 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: and uh, as long as I can continue doing my 146 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: job and not have to worry about a tap of 147 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 4: my helmet to get out the game. 148 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So. 149 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: We'll talk some football. So, big game coming up against 150 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. You know, obviously it's been kind of 151 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: a rougher you know, stretch here for the Ravens coming 152 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: off a tough loss in Kansas City. Just what do 153 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: you see from the mindset of this team and specifically 154 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: of the defense right now? 155 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: Oh man? 156 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: You know, the mindset is that everybody is keeping the 157 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: main thing, the main thing. You know, we're we have 158 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: a lot of young guys and you know, and everybody 159 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: knows that. But the fact of the matter is these 160 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: guys are hungry. They're looking at this as an opportunity 161 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: to prove themselves right, to earn their own self respect 162 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: and believe in themselves. So I appreciate that, right, you know, 163 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: you have no choice but to appreciate that when you 164 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: see guys come in and put the imported heart out 165 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: and preparation. 166 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm just happy. Mindset is the main thing, 167 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: the main thing. 168 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious for you, like this is obviously your first 169 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: season here in Baltimore. But you're a veteran, respected player 170 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: who's been in this league a long time, seeing a 171 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: lot of football. So do you how do you approach 172 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: it in terms of the leadership aspect of things? 173 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: Are you? 174 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Are you kind of harping on certain things to guys, 175 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: like how do you approach that side of the game, 176 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: knowing that you're a respective voice in the locker room? 177 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate that. Man. 178 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: It's tough to get a compliment like that, you know, 179 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: especially when you you've been on a few other teams, right, 180 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: But every every situation is different, right, So I just 181 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: approached the situation the same. Just do my work ethic 182 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: right and to prove that even though I'm a you know, 183 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: older player, right, and I still work just like the 184 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: first year player work right. So it shows them that, man, 185 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: it's our terms is OG working, Man, I got to 186 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: put that work and I can't let OG you know, 187 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: beat me out or whatever the case is. But it also, 188 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: like to your terms of saying the respect factor, they're 189 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: okay with talking to me because I've seen it, right, 190 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: I've been in the league as long as I have, 191 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: and I've seen a lot of things or they would 192 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: ask me if I seen it, so I can give 193 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: them my opinion. Some times, you know, that's all I 194 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: can do, is give them my opinion and my experiences 195 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: of what I saw or what I've been through, and 196 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: then they take it however they take it. 197 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: But you know, in order to set that. 198 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: Foundation is me working and putting the work in and 199 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: they seeing me doing so, and the the way how 200 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: I carry myself. Right, So I kind of went locker 201 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: rooms over that way, because hey, nobody want to listen 202 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: to anybody who is arrogant, right, or who feel like 203 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: they know it all or whatever, or they feel like 204 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: they're better. So that's how I take that approach. 205 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: Interesting obviously, the injuries on the defensive line right now, 206 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: unfortunately Namdie and Broderick, you know, going on IR you 207 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: know you're stepping into a starter's role, but this obviously 208 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: nothing new for you doing that. You were full time 209 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: started in the past two years, playing more than half 210 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: the snaps in Vegas, you know, So do you feel like, 211 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: even though that wasn't necessarily the role that you signed 212 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: up for when you came here to Baltimore, that like, 213 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: all right, you need me to do that I'm more 214 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: than ready for that. 215 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we just never know what happens, right anything. 216 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: We call it any given Sunday factor, but it just, uh, 217 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: when you build this go through these phases OTA's training camp, 218 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: and you're getting a chance to know your players and 219 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: you're building that brotherhood. 220 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: Right. 221 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: So now, what's to the point where me, it's like, 222 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 4: I don't want to let them down, right, and I 223 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 4: want to hold myself to a standard right that was 224 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: already here and try to live up to the standards 225 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: that the Ravens, you know, the Raven standard, playing like 226 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: a Raven and being a player that's respected and just 227 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: just holding that torch. So I don't want to let 228 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: these guys down. I want to try to be somewhat 229 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: of a light if I can, you know, if they 230 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: see it that way. So that's just that's just where 231 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: I'm at with everything. Yeah, I don't know what happens, but. 232 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Just yeah, I'm curious, Like, look, when you played in 233 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the league as long as you have, you see guys 234 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: get hurt, Guys get hurt, you know, all the time. 235 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: And this year Ryan mentioned Nambie going down like just tough, 236 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: you know, personally, professionally, to see a guy go down 237 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: with with you know, that series of an injury. How 238 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: do you handle that, you know, with a guy who 239 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: is who's one of the best players on this team, 240 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: but just dealing with a really tough situation from his standpoint, Like, 241 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: how do you as a player kind of process that 242 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: will also knowing it's next man up and there's another opportunity, 243 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Like how do you process all of that? 244 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: It's tough, but we're groomed to turn the next page. 245 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: You know. Just think about it. 246 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: When somebody get hurt in the game, they don't just 247 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: say the game is over it right, They just hey, listen, 248 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: they the medical staff come in and then they try 249 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 4: to do their best to accommodate the player who's going 250 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 4: through that situation at the time, and then just move on. 251 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: You know. 252 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: We just try to, you know, be there for the player, 253 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 4: right and and be his crutch whoever, you know, because 254 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: it's our brother, you know, and it's tough to see that, especially, 255 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: you know, a player like him, a leader like him, right, 256 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: and the work that I was able to see him 257 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 4: put in in a short matter of time, but I 258 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: heard a lot about him from you know, Robert Leonard 259 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: was here, right, delone coach who was with the Raiders, 260 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: and him and I we have a great relationship, and 261 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: he spoke highly of them, you know, beforehand, So to 262 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 4: come here and see my own two eyes and and 263 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: this unfortunate thing happened. But you know, God has a plan, 264 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: so we all prayed form and and that's why it's 265 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: even more you know, president for us to go out 266 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 4: there and and and really you know, be accountable to 267 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: one another and work hard. 268 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis Strin is another guy on that line with 269 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: you getting healthier now missed his past game, hopefully getting 270 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: back to himself. Uh, I didn't. I didn't realize you 271 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: and Travis both Connecticut guy. 272 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just about to say that it 273 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: was crazy. 274 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: Uh when I went back home to Meriden and I 275 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: was inducted into our Meriden Hall of Fame and one 276 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: of my high school coaches, Fierra Joe, right, he coached 277 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: Traft back in high school. Yeah, so it's crazy, right, 278 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 4: But yeah, we have another Connecticut person, c J. 279 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: The receiver. I just came in. 280 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, nice, that's awesome. I didn't you're like half 281 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: an hour grew up half an hour apart from each other. 282 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: You and Travis and I looked this up. There's actually 283 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: only eight current NFL players that hail from Connecticut, which 284 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 2: is so like we got two of them in the 285 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 2: same position group. It's crazy. So who are like, I 286 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: don't have the whole Yeah, how deep? Yeah, I know 287 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: the Broncos guy that there's defensive lineman who's who's really good? 288 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: What's his name? Allan zach Allen. He's also from Connecticut. Yeah, 289 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: I'll get you the list. The other Connecticut guy. I 290 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: also learned that it's called Anu mix State. 291 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 292 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that research. 293 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: That's great. 294 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: What do you think? 295 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, what are your thoughts about Travis? 296 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: You know, I mean a very talented guy, a veteran 297 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: like yourself. Like when you get him, what stands out 298 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: to you about Travis? 299 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: All right? 300 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: So, uh I reached out to one of my uh 301 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: my homies, uh Keem Hicks. Yeah, he reminds me. 302 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if a lot of people remember, but 303 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 3: frocious player was. 304 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: Man, the things I've seen him do to old lineman, 305 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: that's who try to remind me of. He he reminded 306 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: me of that. He's you know, he's he's coming along. 307 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 4: He's growing into his body sometimes, like when you're a 308 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: nathlete like drave like your the physical aspect is there, 309 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: but you have to learn to be a pro, right, 310 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: you have to learn to be that player. And I 311 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: think he that's that's coming along extremely well fast, and 312 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: he's going to be something to look out for. 313 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: He's going to be one of those players. 314 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: So we were talking about your longevity. This is your 315 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: thirteenth season. 316 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think we looked this up. 317 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: We did our research. You talked about the research on Connecticut. 318 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: We also looked this up. The only defensive player in the. 319 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 5: League who is older than you? 320 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Do you know who? Uh? Campbell? 321 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 5: There is another form. 322 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: We're raving a few years here and had a lot 323 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: of respects in this in this building, but you Kalais 324 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: is the one guy older than you. 325 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: So what does it mean to you to have the 326 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: longevity that you've had over the course. 327 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: He's not throwing shade, Listen. 328 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: I can't run from it, right, I can't. I can't 329 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: run from it. 330 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: Trust we're older than you. 331 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I can't run from it. 332 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: But you know it's uh, it's it's a wild factor. 333 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: Like sometimes like I reached out to the older guys, right, 334 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: and just to see, like, man, you're still going. Like 335 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: I was just with Cam Jordan's, you know, right before 336 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: training camp. I'm like, because I was drafted to the 337 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: Saints and Cam, you know him and I we have 338 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: a brotherhood relationship, right, And I'm like, bro, you're still going. 339 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: He said, Man, he called me J five, J five, 340 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: I'm not waving the white flag. My body feel good? Yeah, 341 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: I feel good too, yeah yeah, But it's just overall, 342 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: man is uh it's crazy to think about it because 343 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: I remember my rookie year talking to Project and he 344 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: was telling me, man, it's gonna go by quick. 345 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: He was gonna go by quick. And here I am. 346 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: You're thirteen. 347 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: So what's been the key to your longevity? 348 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: Do you think enjoying the process. 349 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: Enjoying the process, especially for me, because bouncing around and 350 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: having different, you know, roles, right, sometimes you may feel 351 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: like the role doesn't fit you or you want to 352 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: take part in that role. So it's like, what is 353 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: keeping me here? What is keeping me going? And I 354 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: just say, and I just enjoyed the process. I feel 355 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: like once I no longer enjoy you know, the preparation 356 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: aspect of things enjoy the building of relationships, the bonding, 357 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: you know, the great coaching staff, the locker room, and 358 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: it's like I don't really need it at this point, 359 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: and I'm just like I'm going to bite. 360 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 361 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: You go through a process, like at the end of 362 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a season and think like, all right, I'm just making 363 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: sure I want to keep playing. Or up to this point, 364 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: have you always felt like, oh, I'm playing again next season. 365 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: That's your you know, maybe where it's going to be. 366 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: But what does that process look like, you know, and 367 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: deciding like let's keep this thing going. 368 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes it gets like that, man. You know, I didn't 369 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: think I will be here, to be honest with you, 370 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: but I am. And it's like you get to the 371 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: point where it's like how your body feel? Right, because 372 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: think about everybody always asks you how long you're playing, 373 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: how long you've been playing? Uh on on your thirteen? 374 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: How your body feel? Like they get all like scared, 375 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: like they get nervous for you, like, oh, poor baby, 376 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: how your body feel? And then like when the guys 377 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: who do know football and then like, oh you a 378 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: nose tackle, like bruh, like are you okay? Like like yeah, yeah, man, 379 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: So but but uh, sometimes I have those thoughts. But 380 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: like when I get when I start the preparation and 381 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: and the cycling is a big portion of it, right, 382 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: it just you know, I got it, you know. And 383 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: then obviously, uh, if you're signing, you signed to a 384 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: team and a team doesn't cut you, then you say 385 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: got it because they still want you here, right Yeah. 386 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, cool, now I need 387 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: to work on getting better now, right. So but that's 388 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: where that's how I go about it. Everybody's different. 389 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: What did you think when the Ravens called you? 390 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't know what the thing at the time. 391 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: I didn't even like believe it at the time. I 392 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: didn't know they had interest in me, to be honest 393 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: with you, But you know, I'm glad they did. And 394 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: when I came here. And then z O I knew 395 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: z O when he was when he came out twenty fourteen, right, 396 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: and DJ when I d Lion coach Dennis I played 397 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: against him when he was with LSU, And I was 398 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: in Georgia who played an STG championship And yeah, right, 399 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: But Chuck mcgonall right, and Chuck Smith, I know Chuck mcgona. 400 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: I was with him in twenty twenty, So I already 401 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: had a previous relationship with him and Chuck Smith. I 402 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: was working with him since I was coming training for 403 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: the combine. So yeah, and right, so I had heard 404 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: about before I got here, right, bro, I was with 405 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: Role in Chicago. 406 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: Right. 407 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: So it was people who already knew who I can, 408 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: you know, pretty much talk to once they showed their interest, 409 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: and I came in and took the visit and got 410 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: a chance to like really sit down and be transparent, 411 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: being able to talk to one another, you know, and 412 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: hey here I am. 413 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: So why did you think that you wouldn't be here? 414 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: You said that earlier? 415 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: You just never know, like and it was just like 416 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: a team that I never thought had interest in me. Gotcha? 417 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: Got you? Gotcha? 418 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: And you talked about role being an important thing, What 419 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: role you want to that you're put into? What is 420 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: your role here in Baltimore? 421 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: I mean I was just you know, I call it 422 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: the alleviation factor, right, you know, you know, we talked 423 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: about our two guys and I was just here like, 424 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: hey listen, man, hey just tell them what I see. 425 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: And hey, you need you need a couple of plays? 426 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: I got you? 427 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: I got, you know, but it was pretty much, you know, 428 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: just uh, whatever role they the team in or organization 429 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: needed me to be, that's what I was going to 430 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: fulfill or do my best too. 431 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: Nice. 432 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: I want to go back to that visit that you 433 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: mentioned when you came here and visited, like take me 434 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: through that day, like, did you feel like I'm going 435 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: to sign here at the end of that day? It 436 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: was there was there a moment that you were here 437 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: that you felt like, okay, because this is home. Like 438 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: some other guys have come here, like John You're Alexander's 439 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: an example. He came here on a visit and said 440 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: at the time wasn't sure if he was going to 441 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: sign here or not, but then just felt like this 442 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: is home. 443 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: The vibe felt right. 444 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm curious for you, what was it on 445 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: your visit that ultimately made you feel like this is 446 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: a place I want to play. 447 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, it was. 448 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: Just pretty much seeing where everybody, you know, their mind 449 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 4: was at and how serious they felt about me. Because 450 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: like when we talk about getting up in age, right, 451 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: you know, so I've been in organizations where I've seen 452 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: them bring in older guys and they become a body 453 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 4: you know, so they have no no that the organization 454 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: is not truly invested in them, so they're just using 455 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: them for the time being. And I felt like it 456 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: was creating a purpose for me that will allowed me 457 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: to be able to, you know, be an impact or 458 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: somewhat have an identity on the team. I'm not just 459 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 4: walking through the halls, right because I'm an older player, 460 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: I'm an older person. I'm going to work hard just 461 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: like any other man. But at the same time, you 462 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: want to at least have a certain level of mutual respect, 463 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: which I felt like that was a case when I 464 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: came here and you know, and then we talk about, hey, 465 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: I'm going on year. 466 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Thirteen, like how your body? 467 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so right, So it was like, man, how do 468 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: I really feel cannot because I also don't want to 469 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: just sign and then be in a position where I'm 470 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: not being true to myself, you know, and I'm wasting 471 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: my time, their time, and everybody else's time who was involved. Right, 472 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: So that's why I like, once I came here and 473 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: we talked and we really you know, had those those conversations, 474 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, listen, I'm going I'm here, Like whatever 475 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: you need. 476 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: Me to do, I'm here. 477 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: I'm interested in your perspective on how the game has changed, 478 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: How has the position of playing defensive tackle changed over 479 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: the years from when you first started, and what's changed 480 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: about offensive lines and offensive guards and centers that you battle. 481 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: Man. 482 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: Me and Ear was just talking about this, like some 483 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: of the older guys. I remember, Uh, the first running 484 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: back that I tackled was Steven Jackson and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 485 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: so that same year, I'm tackling Steven Jackson, right, Frank 486 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: gored when San Franz was doing the iback. 487 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: Right. 488 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: So when you're talking about like those type of formations 489 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: and then you go into like we're doing five wide 490 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: and guys are like two hundred, three hundred and five 491 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: pounds not to three hundred and seventy pounds, old lineman, 492 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: that's a big change, a significant change because now everybody 493 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: is moving you know, efficient, everybody's moving with that with 494 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: a different type of speed. 495 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: So it requires you to no longer be the same. Right. 496 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a bigger person, but it requires me just 497 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: to move a little bit more too. So you know, 498 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: I've seen a game develop, you know, that's interesting. 499 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And do you have you ever gone up against Henry? 500 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a tackle Derek Henry You know what, No, 501 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: just just practice, but you're not tackling them. 502 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 503 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: The one time I was going to play him twenty one, 504 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: I was with the Dolphins, I think it was twenty 505 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 4: one and I had COVID that game. We went up 506 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 4: to Tennessee and I didn't play that game. 507 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 508 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Last year, it was last yeah, last year 509 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: I was with the Raiders. 510 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, last year. 511 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 512 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 5: We don't talk about that game. You guys beat us 513 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: that game. 514 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get you're talking. 515 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: About yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why it wasn't. 516 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm curious what your perspective is just on this franchise 517 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: and how it's run given that you know, you've been Seahawks, 518 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: like you said, Saint Seahawks, Bears, Giants, Dolphins, Raiders, you 519 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: know what. 520 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: I've been around America. 521 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: Just how do you see this franchise and how it 522 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: operates compared to some of the other places. 523 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: That you've been. Man, this franchise is class is. It's 524 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: a classicity operation. 525 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: Man. 526 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: Everybody has a lot of respect. Man, it's a different 527 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: level of respect. There's it's like an old school vibe, right, 528 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: Like it's like a fine wine taste. If you know, 529 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: everybody knows their job, Everybody respect each other job. Everybody 530 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 4: hands on from the supporting staff to the coaches, front office, 531 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: you know, even the owner, like everybody, you know, Miss Mashaddi, 532 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: Like everybody knows one another. They're hands on with one another. 533 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: They're willing to do whatever they need to do to 534 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: be a part of the success of the organization. And 535 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: you know that's I mean, that's why you'll have the standard. 536 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You'll have last one for me, John Is as we 537 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: look at this game on Sunday against the Texans, obviously 538 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: it's a big game. How would you describe the sense 539 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: of urgency that you feel from the team going into 540 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: this matchup. 541 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: Man, we're keeping the main thing, the main thing. You know, 542 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: everybody is doing everything they can to understand their position. Everybody. 543 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: You know, you got guys in different roles, right, so 544 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: you know we got to catch up and and just prepare. 545 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: We just taking day by day, you know, hour by hour, 546 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: minute by minute. 547 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, next time I go out for a bike, 548 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: rad I'm blowing you up. John, I'm gonna come tucking 549 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: right behind you. 550 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: That's the. 551 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 5: Appreciate it. 552 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to the Lounge podcast. We're coming to 553 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: you from the Seat Geeks Studio. We want to give 554 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: a shout out to our partners at Draft Kings sports Book. 555 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 556 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Ravens Draftking Sports Book. The Crown is yours, Well thanks 557 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: to John. I just don't think you'd be able to 558 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: about with him on the bike. 559 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Probably not, He's got a few pounds on me, but 560 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: I think you still pull away. 561 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So enjoyed talking with him 562 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: and just getting to know him a little bit. And 563 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, one of a guy like 564 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: him is somebody who he's got this long career. He 565 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: plays a you know, not a sexy position, interior defensive line, 566 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: so you don't just necessarily he's not a guy you 567 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: talk about a ton just given the position that he plays. 568 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: But then you get a chance to talk to him 569 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: and know him a little bit, you know, like, this 570 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: guy's one of the nicest guys, he got one of 571 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: the biggest personalities on the team, and uh, one of 572 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: the hardest workers, and he's from a football standpoint, He's 573 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: playing a huge role for this team right now, especially 574 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: in this game on Sunday. 575 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, thank goodness the Ravens signed him to 576 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 2: be honest, you know where would they be right now 577 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: without John Jenkins given the injuries on the defensive line. 578 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: It's really really important. And I think he's also a 579 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: good mentor to some of these young guys. You know, 580 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: we didn't talk about in yes people's but I know 581 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: that he's kind of coaching him up and been talking 582 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: with him. So I just think, you know, a classic 583 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: good Ravens veteran signing. You know, the Ravens have shown 584 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: their aptitude for bringing in these older veterans who still 585 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: have something to prove and still have more gas left 586 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: in the tank. And John's another example of that. And honestly, 587 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: you know, for the Ravens defense that needs to turn 588 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: things around a little bit, he's going to be a 589 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: key part of that run defense. 590 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: Yo. 591 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the game on Sunday against at 592 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Houston Texans one o'clock m and T Bank Stadium. A 593 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: lot of questions going into this one on the injury 594 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: front for the Ravens. Of course, Lamar Jackson being the 595 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: main one. We're recording this Thursday afternoon, and as of 596 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: this point, he's not practiced at all this week. The 597 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: latest is a report from Josina Anderson who said that 598 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: he's not going to be back until after the bye. 599 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: The Ravens played the Texans this week, played the Rams 600 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: next week, then it's the bye and after that at Chicago. 601 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: So two games here before the bye week and certainly 602 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: trending it looks like in the direction of him not 603 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: playing against the Texans, given that he hasn't practiced this week. 604 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: And again that's the latest report from Josina Anderson. 605 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 5: But it's not just Lamar. 606 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: A number of other players look like they could be 607 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: out for this game. Marlon Humphrey, Rookwan Smith top of 608 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: the list there on the defensive side of the ball. 609 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins did return to practice today, so that was 610 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: really big for this team to get him back. Kyle 611 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: van Noy has been practicing this week as well as 612 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Travis Jones. 613 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: Who has did not practice on Thursday, so that's a 614 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: big possible. You know, we'll see if he's able to play. 615 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, he gets he gets he. 616 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: Pops up of the injury report with a groin injury 617 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: on Wednesday as a limited participant ye and then does 618 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: not practice on Thursday. So that's a situation that certainly 619 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: bears watching going into the weekend as is probably the 620 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: best player on this defense. Uh and then on the 621 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, Ronnie Stanley did come back 622 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: to practice on Thursday, so you know last week he 623 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: was he practiced a little bit, try to play in 624 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the game against the Chiefs, wasn't really able to wasn't 625 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: able to stay in there. Uh So we'll see if 626 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: he's able to play at all in a limited capacity 627 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: in this game against Houston. So that's just kind of 628 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: your injury rundown on where things stand right now. 629 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: That took about five minutes injury report. 630 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: I know, it's it's long, and the Rams are in 631 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: a tough spot. 632 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna have a lot of guys who are stepping 633 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: into two important roles for this team. So how do 634 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: you think the Ravens just at a big picture level, 635 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: handle all the injuries that they're dealing with right now? 636 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: Well, defensively, you know, I think you just have to 637 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: rely on some of these backups to play at a 638 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: high level. I mean, we'll see about Kyle Hamilton. If 639 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: he doesn't play, then Sanousi Kane gets his first start 640 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: of his career as a second year player, seventh round 641 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: pick who I thought had a pretty good summer in 642 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: training camp, you know, but he doesn't have the versatility 643 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: certainly of Kyle Hamilton. I think he's I think he's 644 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: a good player. Heck, Ginostone was a seventh round pick. 645 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: He turned out to be a pretty good safety for 646 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: the Ravens. Yeah, and so Sanusie Kine would get his 647 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: shot next to Malachi Starks. Then you look at cornerback. 648 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: You know, if Marlon Humphrey is not able to play, 649 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: then at chetoh Woozia, I don't even think I think 650 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: he missed him on the exactly. He's dealing with a hamstring, 651 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: and so you know, if he's not able to play, 652 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: now you're down two corners. And that's assuming Wiggins is 653 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: able to play. Uh So, I mean you're looking at 654 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: key On Martin, an undrafted rookie out of Louisiana Louisiana 655 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: Lafayette who's potentially starting at nickel uh in place in Marlin, 656 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: and then on the outside TJ Tampa or the return 657 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: of Jay Alexander who hasn't played since Week one, So 658 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: you know, you just and then we got done talking 659 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: about the defensive line, all the injuries there inside linebacker, 660 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: you're down Roquan Smith. Do we forget him on the 661 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: Injurt Okay, So you're looking at Jake Hummel, you know, 662 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: you know. 663 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Teddy Buchanan and Teddy Buchan who's already been playing a 664 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: lot in Trent and Simpson as well. 665 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: Exactly who you also have who's wearing the green dot, 666 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: who's doing the defensive relaying the calls? I mean, if 667 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Kyle's not out there, roque One's not. 668 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 5: Out there, right, is it Teddy Buchanan right? 669 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: Exactly? That's another question. So yeah, I think that you're 670 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: just gonna need a lot of guys who don't have 671 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: a whole lot of starting experience or haven't been playing 672 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: a lot of ball. I mean, Ja Xander hasn't played 673 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: since Week one. You need him to step up, or 674 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: Tampa who's getting his first career start. So it's just 675 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: a lot of question marks. But guys who uh kind of, 676 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: like John Jenkins said, eager young dudes looking to prove 677 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: themselves in this league. 678 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I think just like the way I look at the 679 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: injury situation, is that really on both sides of the ball. 680 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Because I'm on the offensive side, you maybe looking like 681 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be down your quarterback, you know, maybe the 682 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: best player in the league. And so that means Cooper 683 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: Rush making his first start as a Raven. 684 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: I think the answer offensively is easier here it is 685 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: you're ready hand the ball off to Derrick Henry, Were 686 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: going left? Are we going right? Which way are we 687 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: going here? 688 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: I think there's I think there's truth to that, but 689 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: I think that just like overall, I think that like 690 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: there's kind of a sense of like and and a 691 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: couple of guys talked about that to talk about this 692 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: over the course of the week. It's like, do your job. 693 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: It's like the old the old Patriots saying, do your job, 694 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: do your one eleventh, thanks and yeah, and like and 695 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: and don't try to do too much because there's a 696 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: lot on everyone's played here, especially you got a bunch 697 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: of new starters on defense. If these guys are out 698 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: young players, like, don't try to take on the world. 699 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Just worry about your responsibility and doing that right. Play 700 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: within the framework of the offense. And the defense, and 701 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: like just start there and trust the system, trust that 702 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: you're going to be in the right position to make 703 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: the play, and then make it when it make the 704 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: play when it comes to you. And like that sounds 705 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: very simplistic, but I think that where the Ravens could 706 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: get out of whack is if you have guys that 707 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: like are in wrong position or they're trying to make 708 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: a play and there's poor communication and they just get 709 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that's 710 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: how you get exposed, especially if you have a bunch 711 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: of young guys on defense. 712 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think it's it's kind of to 713 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: the fundamentals. Do what you need to do and we'll 714 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: be all right. The Ravens trust their scheme, they trust 715 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: and they I think still have a very talented roster 716 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: even with these guys missing quite frankly, especially on the 717 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. You still look at all 718 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: the playmakers that they have, Zay Flowers or shot baitman 719 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry in the backfield. You know, the O line 720 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: is healthy. You still have a lot of playmakers DeAndre 721 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: Hopkins and so like, if those if all of those 722 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: players kind of play within the framework of the scheme 723 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: and the game plan, I think that the Ravens can 724 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: still have a lot of success. I mean, the Texans 725 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: are a one in three team too, who are going 726 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: through their own struggles, not quite as rampant on the 727 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: injury front as the Ravens struggles, but like you know, 728 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: they're trying to find themselves just like the Ravens are 729 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: to a degree, and so I think that the Ravens 730 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: are still very capable of doing this. To my point, offensively, 731 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, if you have Cooper Rush starting at quarterback, Hey, 732 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: here's a quarterback that's nine to five as the starter, 733 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: he's got a lot of experience. Like Cooper Rush can 734 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: manage the offense. He can run the offense. And that's 735 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: really what you want. You want somebody to just operate it. 736 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Pull the right levers, pull them on time, don't make mistakes, 737 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over, get the ball in the 738 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: hands of your playmakers, and let them do most of 739 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: the work. That's the game plan for me. Offensively, and 740 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: a lot of that, to be honest, is the run game. 741 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: The Ravens and Todd Monkin made it very clear today 742 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: they want to run the ball more. Point blank haven't 743 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: run it enough, you know. Tom Monks asked, how do 744 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: you fix the run game? Well, it starts with calling 745 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: it more right, and so to me, perfect game to do. 746 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: So you don't have Lamar Jackson. Let's get let's go 747 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: back to the roots a little bit here, established ourselves physically. 748 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pundits out there talking about Baltimore's 749 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: toughness and identity and all that stuff. All right, okay, yeah, 750 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: we'll show you. We'll run that ball with Derrick Henry 751 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 2: twenty five thirty times, sprinkling some other guys there too, 752 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: and we'll see how physical we are. 753 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Well, Dereck Henry like he is no stranger to be 754 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: in the future, guy in an offense, and when he 755 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: came here to Baltimore, like he kind of moved into 756 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 1: an offense that was Lamar's offense, and he's the featured guy. 757 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: That was the first point really in a long time, 758 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: probably going back to his college days, you know, where 759 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: like you had all these other playmakers, but when he 760 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: was in Tennessee, it was like, Okay, everyone went into 761 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: that game knowing like Derek Henry is the guy, try 762 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: to stop him, yep, And and it has I mean, 763 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: they're still an element of that certainly been hit through 764 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: his first year and a half here, but it's more 765 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: I spread yeah here and now I think that Derek 766 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Kennery conversation is only increases and I think that, like so, 767 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: my point is, he's he can handle this. He's ready 768 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: for this workload, the responsibility guy's keying on him, like 769 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: all of that stuff is that is are things that 770 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: he is very well accustomed to. 771 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: We haven't talked to Derek yet this week, but I 772 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: I would bet you that, especially considering his tough starts 773 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: of the year and the fumbles and all that stuff. 774 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: Now Ravens backs are against the wall. You're in kind 775 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: of a air quotes, must win game. So I think 776 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: he will probably welcome the opportunity to be the guy 777 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: and say, hey, Derek, we need you to run us 778 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: to a victory here, bud, all right, you know he 779 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: I've kind of been at the in the eye of 780 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: the storm in terms of the Ravens losses so far 781 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: this year. We need to you need me to deliver 782 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: you a whim. I'm the right guy for the job. 783 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 5: I agree with I agree with all of that. 784 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I also think that it is worth noting like the 785 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: Ravens still have playmakers beyond Derek for course, and I 786 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: think that like there's gonna get the ball out of 787 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: the hands, you know, quickly, and like getting getting say Flowers, 788 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: the ball. 789 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: You want to put. You want to put Cooper Rush 790 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: and advantage just down in distances. And that starts with 791 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: calling more runs on first and second down, and they 792 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: have to be successful runs. Just because you call runs 793 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you're picking up a huge yardage, you know, 794 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: like the run. The Ravens gun run game has been 795 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: pretty efficient and good, but like you need to run 796 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: the ball at a high level and then you need 797 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: to of course you're you're gonna throw it some you know. 798 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: And Cooper Rush, I think needs being advantageous situations. Because 799 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: the Texans have two very good pass rushers, will Anderson 800 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: Junior and Danielle Hunter, who have combined for seven sacks 801 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: through four games so far, one of the best duos 802 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 2: in the league. You do not want them tea and 803 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: off on third and ten, especially with Ranny Ronnie Stanley 804 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: dealing with his injury and Cooper Rush in the backfield, 805 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: who's not gonna make as many guys miss and extend 806 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: plays and make plays like Lamar Jackson is that just 807 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: ain't his game. You want him to be able to 808 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: three step drop, five step drop read, get that ball out, 809 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: advantageous positions, get the balls in the ball in the 810 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: hands of the playmakers. That's what you want the game 811 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 2: plan to be for keeper Rush. 812 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I also wonder I don't know how big of a 813 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: factor this would be. Someone that fans have asked about 814 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: a lot, as Keaton Mitchell. He's been a healthy scratch 815 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: throughout the season. Could he be back in the mix 816 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: in this game. 817 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: I think everybody that's healthy could be in the mix 818 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: for this game, So it would not surprise me if 819 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell is active against the Texans, and I think 820 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: once he's active, I think that the Ravens will try 821 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: to find a little bit of an offensive role for him. 822 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: It's not going to be extensive. Like I just got 823 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: done saying, I think Derek Henry is going to be 824 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: the future guy Justice Hill. Coming off a two touchdown game, 825 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: you know he's going to continue to play his role 826 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: in this offense, which is an important role. But can 827 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: you can you sprinkle in three five touches for Keaton Mitchell? 828 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, a little bit of offensive action while he's 829 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: while he's active, I'd be interested. 830 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 831 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: I also think that part of that goes back to 832 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: something we've spent a lot of time talking about this 833 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: week is the number of plays on offense. If you 834 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: only have fifty plays on offense, that there's not there's 835 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: just fewer opportunities for all of them. But if you have, 836 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got seventy five plays on offense. Yeah, 837 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing yeah. But if and I do think that, 838 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: like just big picture wise, there probably is like this 839 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: seems like more of a game that could be. Could 840 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: this be a seventeen thirteen type of a game where 841 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens have played more of these high scoring affairs 842 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: to start the season. 843 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: I don't know that either way. 844 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: But if it's if it's more of a run heavy. 845 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: If the Ravens defense holds them to thirteen points as 846 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: successful day for this banged up defense, considering the injuries, I'll. 847 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 5: Say that much that's true, That is true. I totally 848 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 5: agree with that. 849 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: But I just think if the Ravens were able to 850 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: run the ball the way that that we're talking about 851 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: and the way that they want to that can shorten 852 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: the game, that can extend drives, that can keep the 853 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: Texans offense off the field, and that can that can 854 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: get you into a situation where it's a lower scoring 855 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: game compared to you know, the high scoring affairs that 856 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: we've seen so far this season. 857 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I don't think it's going to be as 858 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: past happy as what we've seen so far this season. 859 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a little more grinded out, 860 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: old school football. And like, to me, this is a 861 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: Baltimore identity football game. Like I said earlier, a lot 862 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: of people kind of questioning who are the Ravens at 863 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: this point? You know, you just don't see the Ravens 864 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: get beat the way they have the past two weeks. 865 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: You just haven't seen that, right with the Lions and 866 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. And like, I think that there is a 867 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: little bit of a point to prove for this Ravens team. 868 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, like after everybody sung the Ravens praises 869 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: all off season and the Super Bowl favorites and they're 870 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: the most often picked team to win the Super Bowl 871 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: and best roster in the league. Like being back a 872 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: little bit in the underdog role and nobody thinks are 873 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: any good anymore, and everybody thinks we stink now and 874 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: all right, I'm comfortable in that role too. The Ravens 875 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: are well accustomed to that role, you know, and like 876 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm interested in seeing how they respond to that. I 877 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be positive. 878 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an important game obviously, as the Ravens are 879 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: sitting here at this point of the season one and three, 880 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: obviously two games to go until the bye week. As 881 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned, so it's it's an important game for this 882 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: team as they look to get back on track. As always, 883 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: you can email us at the Lounge at ravenst NFL 884 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: dot net. 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