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Speaker 2: June Team Paradox was our feedback episode on the Blackoutis

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Speaker 3: The poll was June Teams becoming a federal.

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Speaker 4: Holiday yay math or yuck uh yay? Karl Yeye another

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Speaker 4: day off that I get to sit in my black

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Speaker 2: Sixty percent the audiences with you care, they say yay,

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Speaker 2: good federal holiday, twenty nine percent say ma uh, and

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Speaker 2: two percent say yuck. I don't know if that's a

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Speaker 3: But I feel like the contingent of black people who

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Speaker 2: That that means everybody is like having June teen festivals now.

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Speaker 2: I plan on treating this new holiday like I do

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Speaker 2: is a holiday for honoring your ancests and celebrating their

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Speaker 3: The only way I know how to do that is

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Speaker 2: On their family I have in the present, Eat some

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Speaker 2: per usual, Evie said, giving us June teenth's a federal

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Speaker 2: holiday while fighting critical race theory is so on part

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Speaker 2: for this country. But hey, it's a holiday and I'll

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Speaker 2: take it. Yeah, I just like I said, I feel

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Speaker 2: you on that. I just would like to be a

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Speaker 3: Because Republicans are the only ones who flipped on it.

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Speaker 2: It's not like other people were for it and then

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Speaker 2: I were against it and then for it. They're the

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Speaker 2: any true education of what the racial history of this

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Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 2: To me, this is no different than when Trump has

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Speaker 2: like one black person that he pardons as he promotes

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Speaker 2: police beating other black people.

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Speaker 3: That's what it.

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Speaker 2: Feels like to me when I see Republicans. I don't

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Speaker 3: Nothing they say can be genuine.

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Speaker 2: Sincere twenty fifty seven, doctor John Stockton, PhD. My dad

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Speaker 2: I'm with Karen because that's what my dad kept saying

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Speaker 2: Because the thing you gotta remember, and this is hard

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Speaker 3: Right, So Candace.

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Speaker 2: Owens doesn't want to be in the crew of other blacks.

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Speaker 4: Right, the only one. And you know, that's why a

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Speaker 3: The same thing happened with like that.

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Speaker 2: They're having coon fights right over there now, Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine this, I mean, and I want this

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Speaker 2: Because if you hang around other black women, they gonna

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Speaker 2: What could we do to help you out on these edges?

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Speaker 2: Even if it's a friendly tug, it's how do we

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Speaker 2: They just happy they have a black person that existence

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Speaker 2: proof that we're not really racist. We just promote a

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: It's probably eating her up on the inside because eventually

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Speaker 3: Like Hollander, that can only be won.

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Speaker 2: barely hear her name. Guess who no one talks about anymore?

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Speaker 2: Jordan Klepper covered it on the Daily Show. He went

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Speaker 3: They've been running the circuits so they can't even get

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Speaker 2: They're next to the next to the next of the Trump,

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Speaker 2: the man. Trace Windle says, hey, Rod and Carroen just

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Speaker 2: wanted to say fuck John Stockton and Karl Malon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for another great episode, Rodi Carir, Thanks Trey.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: The poe was who do you prefer to get your

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Speaker 2: medical advice from medical doctors? Retired NBA players or republican

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Speaker 2: anti science doctors.

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Speaker 4: I hope it's not your question, but I'm going with.

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Speaker 3: Eight medical doctors, all right? Ninety The audience agreed with Karen.

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Speaker 2: Medical doctors is where they prefer to get their medical

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Seven percent said retired NBA players, So John.

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Speaker 2: Come on, and if we do that with humor and nuance,

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Speaker 3: Recently, I told my sister.

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Speaker 4: Or even just go out to eat with Karen and

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I read my tablet, but I just haven't been

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Speaker 3: If I'm yelling at you, I would like.

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Speaker 2: I'm not being violent, and you can't say, Tom, police me,

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Speaker 2: we're not even having to do all this tap dancing

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Speaker 2: all this shit, and we just gotta we just gotta

444
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Speaker 2: act like.

445
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Speaker 3: It's not having it.

446
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Speaker 2: Trey Wright saying, I wanted to thank you guys for

447
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Speaker 2: the reading Rainbow segment. I especially want to thank Karen

448
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Speaker 2: for sharing her childhood experience about why she used to

449
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Speaker 2: talk loud as an adult.

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Speaker 4: That was real and like I said, and it's rutterable rogenal.

451
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Speaker 4: For fact, it took me to what what twenty thirty

452
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Speaker 4: some around and that took me years to break that habit.

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Speaker 2: Yep, as an elderly child, I can definitely relate to

454
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Speaker 2: that in my own way. Thanks Karen, Thank you and

455
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Speaker 2: the poll was it's dippingdots the Rbies of ice cream, yes,

456
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Speaker 2: a no, or I love Arby's because we need to

457
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Speaker 2: get the Rby's lovers out of.

458
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Speaker 3: The discussion, because we can't have a real discussion.

459
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Speaker 2: That's why I did that for our science, because you

460
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Speaker 2: can't really have a real discussion if you let Arvey's lovers,

461
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Speaker 2: you know, talk. So, Karen, it's dipper dots the Arby's

462
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Speaker 2: of ice cream in your opinion.

463
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's terrible. It's terrible.

464
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Speaker 2: Now I want you to notice what she just did there.

465
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Speaker 2: She said dipping dots is the Rvy's of ice cream

466
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Speaker 2: because Arby's is terrible. Karen didn't say I love Arvey's.

467
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Speaker 2: That was a selection as well. She could have chosen

468
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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 3: She loves Rvey's, which this pole has inadvertently dismantled. Karen's

470
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Speaker 3: love Arby's lie that she was telling y'all.

471
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Speaker 2: Reveal the truth that she equates the nastiness of dipping

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Speaker 2: dots with Arby's.

473
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Speaker 3: So that is what you did. This is the facts.

474
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Speaker 3: Neil Cobain is a lawyer.

475
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Speaker 4: He back on this. That was the option.

476
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Speaker 2: The other one of the options, I love Arby's. Would

477
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Speaker 2: you like to take it again? Let's take it again.

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Speaker 3: It's differents the Armies of ice cream? Yes? No? Or

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Speaker 3: I love Arby's. No, No, what are you choosing?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I'm choosing no because dipping dots are nasty.

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Speaker 2: So dippen dots are not the Armies of ice cream.

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Speaker 4: Dipper dots are, I guess because they're nasty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that is a yes. Yes, I said, arrest

484
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Speaker 3: my case.

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Speaker 2: But it won't matter because the Arby's truthers were still

486
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Speaker 2: right in tomorrow like you love it. But I just

487
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Speaker 2: I just pointed out. I didn't even know this was

488
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Speaker 2: gonna happen, but I just pointed out the obvious flaw

489
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Speaker 2: in their weak ass colt like love and obsession of Arby's.

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Speaker 3: Uh anyway, Joe Rice.

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Speaker 2: And so the percentages fifty of the audience says yes, okay,

492
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Speaker 2: they are absolutely the Armies of ice cream, twenty percent

493
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Speaker 2: say no, they're not the Arbies of ice cream, and

494
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Speaker 2: twenty four percent say I love Arby's.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So if you take all of the.

496
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Speaker 2: I love Arby's people out of the equation, okay, then

497
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get the percentage where seventy five percent of

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Speaker 2: people who don't love Arby's agree that dipping dots is

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Speaker 2: the Arby's of fucking is the Arbis of of ice cream,

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Speaker 2: which means twenty about twenty six percent say no, that's

501
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Speaker 2: called fucking science kids. It's not for the not for

502
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Speaker 2: the children, it's for the grown ups. Joe says, I've

503
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Speaker 2: never heard of dipping dots until they can get Van

504
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Speaker 2: Rangsey do or ad copy for their money. Launder in

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Speaker 2: Front allegedly, dippin' dots are nothing. Andel says, I'm convincing

506
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Speaker 2: that dippin' dots are a money lundering scheme of a

507
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Speaker 2: military experiment. The only place I see dippin' dots was

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Speaker 2: else the interests of Walmart sports arenas.

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Speaker 3: And you never see anyone buying and eating them. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 3: I've only seen them in malls and places like you

511
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Speaker 3: just described. They don't even sell them at like well

512
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Speaker 3: do they.

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Speaker 2: I think they might sell them at museums like for like,

514
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Speaker 2: this is what astronauts to eat us some ship.

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Speaker 4: Some people say the same at the grocery store, but

516
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Speaker 4: I just I've never seen them. I just ignore the

517
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Speaker 4: ship out of it. I guess I got a blind

518
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Speaker 4: I won't buy it, and the whole section just just

519
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Speaker 4: just just.

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Speaker 3: Blinks out in my mind.

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Speaker 2: It might as well be an army with no cars

522
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Speaker 2: in the driveway.

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Speaker 3: I've seen them because as far as care concerned, it.

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Speaker 4: Don't exist some Ben and jerrys.

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Speaker 3: So it's just not an option.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the only place I see Debonops said that my

527
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Speaker 2: child begged for them exactly once she tasted one spoonful.

528
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Speaker 2: It was so nasty. As I had warned her, it

529
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Speaker 2: would be that we just threw it away. Besides my

530
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Speaker 2: kids trying to spoonful, I have only seen three other

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Speaker 2: children over span of many years eat those pellets. And

532
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Speaker 2: yes they were white. The powers that be tried to

533
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Speaker 2: legitimize the suppose ice cream on the show Unwrapped.

534
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Speaker 3: Most desserts looked tantalizing on that show.

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Speaker 2: Dipping dots look like something that we slowly alter your

536
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Speaker 2: excellular structure.

537
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Speaker 3: It was.

538
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Speaker 2: It was suspect then and it's suspect now. Even he says,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever had dipping dots. They don't

540
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Speaker 2: look advertising, unlike the delicious Arbys and dairy Queen. Oh

541
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Speaker 2: you haven't even had it, but you willn't wouldn't have

542
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Speaker 2: said it doesn't look early okay. Seemed like a lot

543
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Speaker 2: of judgment if somebody never tried something interesting, interesting that

544
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Speaker 2: you could decide that the last episode of the week

545
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Speaker 2: was Caring the movie. We had a bunch of comments,

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Speaker 2: WHOA what are we talking about? I don't know, Ernest said.

547
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Speaker 2: Ernest dot Com says, y'all, those energy drinks are no joke.

548
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Speaker 2: Back when I was in grad school, I did not

549
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Speaker 2: know how badly they can dehydrate you.

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Speaker 3: I drank multiple a day.

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Speaker 2: I would start the day with one that was mixed

552
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Speaker 2: with orange juice I can remember the name. I can't

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Speaker 2: remember the name, and would then drink a few joke

554
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Speaker 2: colas to get through the night as I worked on

555
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Speaker 2: my thesis project. One day, I just couldn't get up

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Speaker 2: out of bed. I literally rode around my room until

557
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Speaker 2: I could build up the strip to get the emergency

558
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Speaker 2: room because I thought I was sick. The er people

559
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Speaker 2: put me on an ivy to rehydrate me and sit

560
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Speaker 2: me on my way. I learned my lesson after that,

561
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Speaker 2: but still managed to get waylaid. That summer, when I

562
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Speaker 2: was walking home from school on a hot day and

563
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Speaker 2: I stopped at a seven to eleven for a grape slurpy.

564
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Speaker 3: I didn't pay enough attention.

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Speaker 2: I drank a whole extra large grape Monster Energy slurpy

566
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Speaker 2: on a ninety degree day too long.

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Speaker 3: Did read just drink some water? Thank you for the

568
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Speaker 3: show and shout out to the chat room. Wow, wow,

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Speaker 3: that does.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that came in freezy pop form, right.

571
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Speaker 3: They just throw them shits and everything.

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Speaker 4: No, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Pamel seventy three says after the surgeon crime in the US,

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Speaker 2: I completely agree with your quarter unquote conspiracy theory. You

575
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: can see the way the narrative is shaping up in

576
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Speaker 2: the media the articles. Now, I'm saying that the recent

577
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Speaker 2: surge is due to a number of factors related to

578
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, like the economic collapse, heightened anxiety, and the.

579
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Speaker 3: Move to depolice in some areas.

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Speaker 2: My fear is that as the narrative evolves from depolicing

581
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Speaker 2: is one of the contributing factors into it's the major factor,

582
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Speaker 2: and finally it's the only factor. Personally, I don't think

583
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Speaker 2: depolicing is a factor at all. I think the surgeon

584
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Speaker 2: is almost entirely due to economic collapse.

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Speaker 3: Couple with the easy availability of guns. Right.

586
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Speaker 2: I agree completely. I do worry about that exactly what

587
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Speaker 2: you just said, specifically because of the people who are

588
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Speaker 2: against defund the police are better at at they're better

589
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Speaker 2: at defining what defund the police means than the people.

590
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Speaker 3: Who came up with it.

591
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: Yes, they are.

592
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Speaker 2: And that's not to say that I like that. That's

593
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Speaker 2: to say I'm dealing with life as it is. We

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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time trying to reclaim the term

595
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Speaker 2: and all this shit, but they are using it as

596
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Speaker 2: a boogeyman. It's a scary turn to a lot of people,

597
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: and that's how they prefer to use it. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: they aren't making good faith arguments, and I think trying

599
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: to who confront them as if they are is a mistake.

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00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: I think trying to reclaim.

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Speaker 3: The definition is a waste of effort.

602
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen, and I don't

603
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Speaker 2: know if it's too late to come up with a

604
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Speaker 2: different term or just you know whatever. I don't think

605
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: anyone should give up just keep explaining it. But I

606
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: just think in general, they have won the race on

607
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: this and nobody wants to admit it because we're on

608
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Speaker 2: this other side, and we want these things, we want

609
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: funds reallocated. And I've seen organizations that are put in

610
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: the blood sweat equity on the ground, people like the ACOU.

611
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Speaker 2: They're not using the term right now, Nope, they're just

612
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Speaker 2: like this, they're saying, we can reallocate funds that da.

613
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Speaker 3: Da da dada.

614
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Speaker 2: Like they're purposely being like, let's just stay away from

615
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Speaker 2: that part of it.

616
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Speaker 3: But we're going to stay on the points. The goal

617
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Speaker 3: is to get those things.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

619
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Speaker 3: Anyway, I agree with you. Is My point is that

620
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Speaker 3: And the fact is it hasn't happened.

621
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Speaker 2: Anywhere really places where it's quote unquote happened, it hasn't

622
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: really been long enough to truly say what it's done,

623
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Speaker 2: you know, Minneapolis and stuff like that, like that's been

624
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Speaker 2: going back and forth.

625
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: That's not they still have police there.

626
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Speaker 2: They still have fucking like riots and all kinds of

627
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: shit happened in the middle.

628
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Speaker 3: It's not.

629
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Speaker 2: It's just not as easy as people made it to

630
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Speaker 2: seem on Twitter.

631
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Speaker 4: Right.

632
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Speaker 2: I add this theory that the level of police in

633
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Speaker 2: the area does not prevent crime. I know this is

634
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Speaker 2: pretty much generally accept the knowledge generally accepted theory on

635
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Speaker 2: the left.

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Speaker 3: But I like thinking it's my theory.

637
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Speaker 2: Let me have this by policing, I mean cops and

638
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: uniform driving or walking up and down the neighborhood on patrol.

639
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Speaker 2: If you look at the most heinous crimes like great murder, kidnapping,

640
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Speaker 2: et cetera, those are almost never prevented by police, and

641
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Speaker 2: they're always solved if ever after the fact, by investigative

642
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: detective work that.

643
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: Is more a lot more mundane than it is violent.

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Speaker 2: Police on patrol always seem to reduce lifestyle crimes like

645
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Speaker 2: property damage, regency, drug use, open containers, et cetera, which

646
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: are all poverty related and can.

647
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Speaker 3: Be addressed at the social level.

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Speaker 2: Like you, my fears that too many mo uckers ucking

649
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: with my shit are going to double down on the

650
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: ship that doesn't work instead of trying to learn it

651
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: leaning to the shit that work might work, like universal

652
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: basic income, decriminalization of drugs, limiting guns, increased government support

653
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: for people on the margins. Sadly, your country is built

654
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: on the notion that the suffering the poor is divine,

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Speaker 2: and they're helping the poor is denying them opportunity to

656
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: lift themselves by their bootstrats.

657
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: Through hard work and thrift.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, people in general don't seem to want

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Speaker 2: to accept that crime is directly related to poverty and

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Speaker 2: wealth inequality and want to believe that crime is careable

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Speaker 2: by extreme punitive measure. Yeah, I agree with must of

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Speaker 2: what you said, especially considering like I'm reading this book

663
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Speaker 2: poorly understood, and I mean it's generally accepted and study.

664
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: The more money you put into schools and neighborhood programs,

665
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: the less you will put into prisons. And so when

666
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: we don't invest in neighborhoods, when we don't invest in children,

667
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: when we don't invest in education, we just end up

668
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: paying for it as a society later when we're incarcerating people,

669
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: which cost more money and leaves doing less potential to.

670
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Contribute to society.

671
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: The thing about the the rape and murder stuff that

672
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: people say, I've been thinking about that point a lot.

673
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 2: Here's the problem with that logic, and to me, it's

674
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: a very simple hole in the logic.

675
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: By saying that.

676
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Police don't prevent these crimes, they're saying that people who

677
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: do these crimes would not do them again once they're

678
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: locked up. So that's like saying, let's say I was

679
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: the kind of person that was just out here killing

680
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: people willing Nelly. Well, putting me in a prison where

681
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I can't kill people willly Nelly is probably saving lives

682
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: because I'm not out free doing what the fuck I

683
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: was doing. You know what I'm saying, if I'm a

684
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: serial rapist or if I'm just a I don't know

685
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: how just somebody who is a rapist, Say somebody is

686
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: victimizing somebody that's in their family right over and over

687
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: and over again. If that person is locked up, they

688
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: will not be doing that to that person anymore, you

689
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. So like sometimes people throw this

690
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: out as like this this like see, this is why,

691
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: this is why police is pointless, Like no, that's not

692
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: your point doesn't truly make one hundred percent logical sense,

693
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, Because it's like some of

694
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: the shit is repeating. Motherfuckers would keep doing it if

695
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: they weren't somewhere else being where they were unable to

696
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: keep doing it. You know, it's like saying, I don't

697
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: know it's it's just it's like saying that if well, Roger,

698
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, they can't stop you from ordering it, from

699
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: eating bad food in your refrigerator. I'm like, well, if

700
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: the food isn't in there, then you know, and I

701
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: have to eat what's in the house.

702
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: And they can't stop me because now I'm.

703
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Only eating you know what I'm saying, Like, they didn't

704
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: stop you from eating that burgers, Like, well they took

705
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: away the burgers. Now I'm fucking eating lettuce. I didn't

706
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: want to, but this is what the fucking choice is now. Anyway,

707
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: It's just something that's been bothering me when I see it,

708
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: because that's a commonly thrown up thing, and it's also

709
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: this other thing too. That's an assumption which I'm not

710
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: saying is one hundred percent wrong, but it's definitely not

711
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right, which is that preventative spending and

712
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: investment will solve crime.

713
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it'll work on a lot of people.

714
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: It's still gonna be some people that do crime.

715
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Every society, regardless of how it's set up, regardless of

716
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: their economic makeup, regardless of their racial makeup, has some

717
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: element of criminality in it. You know, you have some

718
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: antisocial type of people. I don't know, I don't know what, Like,

719
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we're ever gonna get to a point

720
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: where it's zero. And I don't think I have to,

721
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Like I'm not the one that got to solve these problems,

722
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: but you know, it's enough for me to be like, yeah.

723
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's one hundred percent effective.

724
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: I think it will be more effective than what we

725
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: have now, and I think that's what matters the most.

726
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: But I think over promising is gonna lead to some

727
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: under delivering. And it reminds me of what I didn't

728
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: like about Bernie Sanders and the people that followed.

729
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: Him, was they would put together these promises that to me,

730
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: I was like, that's impossible.

731
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Like what you're telling me is essentially a lot that's

732
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: not gonna fix everything.

733
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: And y'all like, I don't mind.

734
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: You saying let's get better, but you're acting like this

735
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: is perfect and anything else that's not this is imperfect.

736
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 3: All of it's imperfect. Period, agreed, all right. I saw

737
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: this growing up at Jamaica.

738
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: Jamaica has always had high levels of violent crime, but

739
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: there was always a high police presence. It was not

740
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: uncommonly militarized police and soldiers patrolling the street with automatic weapons,

741
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: where you didn't see a lot of police was the

742
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: higher income, wealthy areas or the crime rates were typically lower.

743
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: We have huge wealth gas to this day. Yeah, people

744
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: think the.

745
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: High crime rate can be solved by having more and

746
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: more police killing more and more poor people.

747
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: Sorry for the long postal.

748
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Mil No, no apology, you need it, and uh yeah,

749
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think a lot of the.

750
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: A lot of.

751
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: The police presence to prevent crime thing is a little

752
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: bit different than when people talk about community policing and

753
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: they try to down it. Community policing can work out

754
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: of it. Don't mean it will work, but there are

755
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: places where it works.

756
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: If you look at a lot of what.

757
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: People actually want from policing, it's they want to be

758
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: policed in a way that these upper end neighborhoods are

759
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: police right, in which police walk through with the assumption

760
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: that everyone's on the up and up. Police don't do

761
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: stuff like routine traffic stops because they're not trying to

762
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: get taxes from these people through essentially using the police

763
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: as like a debtor's tax.

764
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: So that's what people want, you know what I mean.

765
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: And then the less interaction you have with police, especially

766
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: in bad faith, like those interactions often are the less

767
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: likely you are to have any violence.

768
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: Pop off, any police mouth feasings and stuff like that.

769
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: So, like I said, I'm not here to talk about

770
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: the reality of whether or not that can happen.

771
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

772
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that we have police in upper class

773
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: better quote unquote neighborhoods.

774
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: Happens all the time.

775
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: Police do a bunch of shit in those neighborhoods. Sometimes

776
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: police live in those neighborhoods. You know, the way black

777
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: people and poor communities get polices not even close to

778
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: the same. It's it's a bunch of motherfuckers's like, don't

779
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: live there. Patrol it like it's a war zone stopping

780
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: harassed people. It's not even close to the same experience.

781
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: And anytime people with money experience what we experience, they

782
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: immediately fucking get upset.

783
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: All right.

784
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: Next one is Emil again, who says I should really

785
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: wait until the end of the episode to comment, but

786
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to touch on that.

787
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: Juve.

788
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh that's how now, Juve, I thought it was Joevert. See,

789
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not any level of Jamaican guys.

790
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: Juve rum thing.

791
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad this didn't devolve into another version of the

792
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: dash Forer Awards to tell the truth. When I first

793
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: saw this, the first thing I thought was that a

794
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: nigga from Trinidad who's boys with Michael B.

795
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: Jordan, came up with the name.

796
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: If I was starting some rum venture, I would find

797
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: some Jamaican thing to name it, regardless of the cultural importance.

798
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: Oh that's sorry.

799
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: I met Trinidaddy, I said, Jamaican Trinidad Trinidaddy. And the

800
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: past decade or so there's been a hyper weddings of

801
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: the West Indies of cultural artifacts from the islands being

802
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: adopted for profit in the US with no monetary benefit

803
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: to the allens.

804
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: I get the sensitivities.

805
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Involved, but I don't know what the rules are for

806
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: when homage because Steph, some Bajans are Bejans are on

807
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: social media say that Trenees have nothing to complain about, because,

808
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: as they pointed out, carib Brewers of Trinidadian Brewery created

809
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: a beer in twenty nineteen called two four to six,

810
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: which is Barbados country code with a pelican and a

811
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: broken trident on the label part of Barbados coat of

812
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: arms and a flying fish.

813
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: Flying Fish is Barbados national.

814
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: Dish specifically targeted for the Beayjian market. It should be

815
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: noted that Trinidad is a larger country than Barbados. I

816
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: think thirty years ago a brother in the US using

817
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: the name as the name of a trendy cultural event

818
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: to brand their run would probably be seen as an

819
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: exposure opportunity to boost tourism. Maybe these days that's not enough.

820
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: And replied to this and said, I'm a trainey. The

821
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: issue is with people who are not from the island

822
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: profited from the culture. The carnival culture is unique to

823
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: the Caribbean islands. I personally don't see a brand of

824
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: beer marketed between Allen's is the same thing. But I

825
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: get why Evasion would be upset by and beer from

826
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: a treney when there are local brands available.

827
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

828
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 4: I think for me, it's just like not my table.

829
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: I do not have a dog in this fight.

830
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: And if folks is uh, folks don't like it, and

831
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: you say you're paying homage to them, then I guess you.

832
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: Changed the name.

833
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just easy. This is easy just to step

834
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 4: away and go, well, this is not my culture. All

835
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: say this is not my culture. Okay, fuck it, we

836
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: could it don't got to be named this, like we

837
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: can go do something else. Even if their purpose was

838
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: to like like this, like the person said, we do

839
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: it for tourism and all that stuff. You go, okay,

840
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: y'all don't want that. Cool, Well, then I'll go do

841
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: this and won't nobody even know what my real purpose

842
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: was because people shut shit down sometimes before they allow

843
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 4: people to explain shit. Yeah.

844
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: I look at it like, like, say, we're in the

845
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: podcasting game in the industry. Let's say Emil who's Jamaican,

846
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: wanted to start a spinoff podcast and about Jamaican Jamaican stuff,

847
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: and he was.

848
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Like, rid, I want to help. Can you help me

849
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: with this?

850
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: I like to call it the blood clot Who Tips,

851
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: and I want you and Caring to be the main host.

852
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna produce it kind of in the background,

853
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: and we put out, hey, announcement, we got a new podcast,

854
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: blood clock Who Tips, and motherfucker people started writing there

855
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: like this is real extra offensive, and I'm like, how

856
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: are we supposed to know?

857
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: Emil told us that it was cool. I'm gonna just

858
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: be like I'm out, like, hey, we'll change it. This

859
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: was not what I got in for.

860
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: My bad.

861
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: I definitely wasn't.

862
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: It's not like when we said this, I hope I

863
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: pissed off a lot of Jamaican people who don't listen

864
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: to the show.

865
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: Right, That's the whole purpose, And it also gets into

866
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 4: a lot of things where the world is interconnected and

867
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: is one of those things where who is all personal,

868
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: it's all subjective to an extent. Who determines what's cultural

869
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: appropriation and what's not? Who like who determines that, who

870
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: makes that? There are some things that cross all across

871
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: the world that people love that your culture did not

872
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: come up with, but you love it, and it's kind

873
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: of integrated and woven its way through it. If you

874
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 4: go down to the history of it, it's not yours either.

875
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: But you pick up the slang, and you pick up

876
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: the talk, and you pick up the language, and you

877
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: eat the food and you do all these other things,

878
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: and certain things are just considered acceptable. But then when

879
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: it comes to these other things that people hold to

880
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: their heart, whatever your thing is, people don't want to

881
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: share those things. They want it close off. But at

882
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: the same time, we live in a kind of almost

883
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: like an open world. Well sometimes in order for somebody

884
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: like me to get introduced to something like that. It

885
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: needs to be open, you know, because sometimes being closed

886
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: to an extent can prevent it from growing and prevent

887
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: people from knowing and learning and wanting to go to

888
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: there and spend tourist dolls or whatever it may be.

889
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: So it's almost a catch twenty two. I understand people

890
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: feeling offended and being upset and feel like it's cultural

891
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: appropriation and things like that. I completely understand that. But

892
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: who determines that, and who dictates what's shareable and what's

893
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: not shareable, what's succeptible and what's not acceptable, who get

894
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: paid for it and who doesn't get paid for it?

895
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: Who determined those things?

896
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, and I wanted to go

897
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: back to the point about the police. I just looked

898
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: at the chat and I saw people saying the part

899
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: where I was talking about I don't like the talking

900
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: point that cops don't prevent crime, whereas, like I think

901
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: somebody said, I always took it as they don't stop

902
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: the initial crime, and I'm like, nah, but people always

903
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: say that as a measure of.

904
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: We shouldn't even have cops.

905
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: They never said like, cops don't stop the initial crime,

906
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: but they may stop subsequent crimes. They say, cops just

907
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: don't stop anything, Like it's a very flat footed.

908
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: Point of like they didn't stop.

909
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: If you don't stop this person from being sexually assaulted

910
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: before it happens, then essentially there's no job to do here.

911
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not what the That doesn't even make sense,

912
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: And I wish people stop saying that.

913
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: Like all that sounds like is you've never had anything

914
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: fucked up happening yet.

915
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: Come on, where you wanted justice and you wanted them

916
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: to do their.

917
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: Job, Yeah, somebody do something. If somebody has done some

918
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: criminal shit to you, you do want it not to

919
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: happen again. You may not want them to be like,

920
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: you know, the most fucked up in the world. You

921
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: may not want them to be over penalized, but you

922
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: do want some entity to stop that from happening again.

923
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: And there's a bunch of shit we don't count because

924
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: there's no statistical way to measure it, such as if

925
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: if somebody says I'm gonna kill this bitch, you get

926
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: a restraining order, they violate the restraining order, the police

927
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: lock them up. We can't be like, well, they didn't

928
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: prevent anything. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck

929
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: that person would have done. Like if camp pulls a

930
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: restraining order against me and then the police are enforced

931
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: it somehow and I keep breaking and I eventually get

932
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: arrested and put in jail. That doesn't go on the

933
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: books as we stop the murder. It's just no, like

934
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: I said, it's just a logical fallacy, you know what

935
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying. The more you like, I just don't like

936
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: the way it's presented.

937
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't mind.

938
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: The point of investing is what stops crime initially hopefully

939
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: and reduces crime. Hoel, yes, yes, but the way it's

940
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: presented online is always just we don't even need these niggas.

941
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: They don't like, they don't do shit, and it's like

942
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: that's not.

943
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and they sull a purpose. Police serve a purpose,

944
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 4: and they excuse me out there for a reason because

945
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where like I said, online,

946
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 4: I'll be considered a coon. But I'm like, police of

947
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: a purpose. And if you get ruddy rid of them,

948
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 4: what are you going to put in their place? Because

949
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: crime will still happen. What are you going to put

950
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: in a place If something happens to me, and I

951
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: want justice. What are we going to do?

952
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Something's gonna yeah, some something's gonna go in this place

953
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: regardless of what people.

954
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: What are we going to do because I'm gonna look

955
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: like bitch, I want something done.

956
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

957
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: And so then and I did this, mart I wasn't

958
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: trying to say that that's the what you were meaning,

959
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: just that I saw that point. I wanted to address

960
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: it because I think that is what people There's this

961
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: kind of like, well they don't stop the initial thing.

962
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: It's like, right, but then you took it the next.

963
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Level when people go, well they didn't stop the initial thing,

964
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: so why do we have them?

965
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: It's like what the fuck?

966
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: Also, the other fallacy in that argument is they go,

967
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: they didn't stop the initial thing, so why do we

968
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: have them, which does admitt what you're really saying there

969
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: is we need better policing.

970
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: Right.

971
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 3: That's not saying we need no policing.

972
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: You're saying, no, we need a thing that catches one

973
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent of rapists.

974
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: We need a thing that stops one hundred percent of this.

975
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: So so you're still saying that you want this stuff,

976
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: It's not you just don't. We don't want it in

977
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: the way that it is presented. We don't and we

978
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: don't want waste. Is how I look at it, as like,

979
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't want waste. If a cop parking up the

980
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: street and just sitting there and pulling people over for

981
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: going five miles over the fee limit doesn't stop anything,

982
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: then sure I don't want that. But if that, but

983
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: if it's something where like hey, my neighbor keeps threatening

984
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: me with a sword, I probably do want the cops

985
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: or somebody to come out and fix that.

986
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and you do want them to look into it,

987
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: and you do want them to investigate, because the thing is,

988
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 4: regardless of where you are in the world, police don't

989
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: prevent crimes. Police job is normally to come, okay, say

990
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: a crime is prevented, what can we do to catch

991
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: the person that did the crime?

992
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: Right?

993
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't think like I said, I

994
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: think people are conflating two points on purpose. It's like

995
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: they're doing the semantic trickery of like, but they don't

996
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: stop crime. Nothing stops crime in that way. There's never

997
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: a measurable way to catch stop the crime. No, there

998
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: is no hypothetical like two worlds where It's like I

999
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: would have did the crime, but I didn't. Like, we

1000
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: don't know how much crime they could or could not stop.

1001
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: Everything is measured against what happened, So crimes that don't

1002
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: happen don't exist, so.

1003
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: There's no which is a good thing.

1004
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, shout out to my economics and statistics

1005
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: degree and shit.

1006
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: But it's like I just hate that argument.

1007
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: Such a like yeah, and online, even when.

1008
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: We measure crime, those numbers are manipulated. Those aren't even

1009
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: real numbers necessarily. It's you know, many times police manipulate them.

1010
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna categorize something as this, We're just gonna not

1011
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: report this. I remember when people said crime went down

1012
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: in New York when they when the police said we're

1013
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: going on strike.

1014
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 3: It's like crime didn't go down, they stopped.

1015
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: They stopped tracking it, right, like all of us, all

1016
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: of it is, All of it is is some bullshit,

1017
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So anyway, those to me,

1018
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: I get the point people want to make. I just

1019
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: don't think that those points are well thought out. Put

1020
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: it that way, and I and I still all agree

1021
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: that we should reallocate funds. I still agree investing in

1022
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: community is going to lower crime and lower the expenditure

1023
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: of crime.

1024
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: I just think if we're gonna make arguments.

1025
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: That should be that it should it should be. Uh,

1026
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: we need to be a bit more precise.

1027
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I and I and I also I agree

1028
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 4: that once a crime happens, you know, you actually want

1029
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: people to take your ship seriously too, because a lot

1030
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: of times crimes that happen to black and brown people

1031
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 4: aren't taking seriously, and so a lot of people get

1032
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: upset and go, what the fuck are you here for?

1033
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: If I complain to you and tell you something happened

1034
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: to me and you don't take what I what I'm

1035
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: giving to you seriously, Yes, I'm gonna be upset.

1036
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 3: Here's another head here's another head trip.

1037
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: If we're just looking at enough crime statistics, if you

1038
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: add cops to any neighborhood, crime will go up, because

1039
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: that's who loves crime.

1040
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1041
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's who keeps the track.

1042
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: It's like saying, if we add more referees to an

1043
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: NBA game, guess what's gonna happen. The whistle gonna blow

1044
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: more often because there's more opportunities for them to see

1045
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: something it's like it's just such a it's a weird

1046
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: fallacy that exists that that that, like, I get why

1047
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: certain police officers get frustrated with the publics kind of

1048
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: like hypocritical attitudes on a lot of this shit, because

1049
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: it's like, we want more police. Okay, we're gonna come

1050
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: out here and police y'all. Whoa y'all doing too much policing,

1051
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's what we do.

1052
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: Man, this is our job.

1053
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: Man Like like like this is like to us, we're

1054
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: saying we're doing a good job.

1055
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 3: Look at us, We're stopping all this bullshit.

1056
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: The truth is people don't really want a lot of

1057
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: police and just want good policing.

1058
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: Right.

1059
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: The numbers don't maagine a lot of people that go,

1060
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: can you do the job and do it effectively?

1061
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you look at neighborhoods that have quote

1062
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: unquote good relationships with the police, it's only because the

1063
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: police treat them with some level of good faith.

1064
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Just I'm not here to try

1065
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: to put you in jail.

1066
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm not here to try to find you. I'm not

1067
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: here to fuck up your life. That's the only difference

1068
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: in America anyway, I can't say for other countries, and

1069
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying that that's quote unquote good enough.

1070
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: But that's the only difference when you ask why white

1071
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: people ain't scared of the polices just because police.

1072
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: Ain't acting like they gonna kill him.

1073
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: Right anyway, I didn't even get on that tension that

1074
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: tangent and said. I just want to say Karen's one

1075
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: of the few segments this week have been therapeutic. Everything

1076
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: she said seemed like she read my mind and repeat

1077
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: it on the podcast.

1078
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: Thanks, oh thank you baby, and y'all are welcome. So

1079
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: that really was me. Okay, I'm the one brought back

1080
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: reading Rainbow.

1081
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm the one that didn't get defensive when that person

1082
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: wrote in and uh, I really want to take all

1083
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: the credit for Karen's beautiful thoughts.

1084
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: Okay, as a man, I would like to hold on and.

1085
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 4: All y'all, get y'all getting MoMA me some momami.

1086
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: As a man, I would like to get all the

1087
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: credit for this woman. And she said even he says

1088
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: I thought that Karen Traylor was a parody of it

1089
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: or s and l type skit, because I laughed and

1090
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 2: laughed the entire time and someone said it's an actual movie.

1091
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: I doubt I paid to see it in theaters, but

1092
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: would definitely catch it on streaming. Kind of makes me

1093
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: wonder if the director is Tyler Perry writing under a

1094
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 2: different name, which will make so much sense.

1095
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: But that wig was bad, but.

1096
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: That president's real other stuff when.

1097
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: Y'all no, Coke Daniels is a real person made the

1098
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: potato salad. When y'all were talking about the trailer and

1099
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Karen asked if it was KKK, so the way I

1100
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: scream had people looking at me crazy, Please say you'll

1101
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: do a blue review on this one. I mean, I'm

1102
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: definitely planning to watch it and review it. I you know,

1103
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: I never speak for Karen, despite me being the person

1104
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: that she get all the credit for her speaking. If

1105
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: she watches it, then I'm sure we'll do it too. Yes,

1106
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: so you do want to watch it?

1107
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, it's gonna be good and terrible. Yeah, yeah,

1108
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: I want to watch it. I think it's great. I

1109
00:52:59,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: can't wait.

1110
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: Carrying the movie. Yay or Nate sixty four percent, Ya

1111
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: thirty six percent. A lot of comments surprised. Emil says, well, Dann,

1112
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: the producer of the movie, should come out and say

1113
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: the trailer is an S and L digital short and

1114
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: not really a movie at all. Pamela says, Hey, Karen

1115
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: or Rod, On'm listening to you talk about Ikia June

1116
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: teeth mean you.

1117
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: And I'm right here with you. Ooh, would I be

1118
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: burning if the.

1119
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: Place had delicious Chrispy fried chicken. They're going to offer

1120
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: me some meat loaf? The audacity and how dare you?

1121
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the cover of the cookbook for the

1122
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: Sweet Home Cafe, the restaurant for the National Museum or

1123
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: African American History and Culture. The fried chicken is a

1124
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: prominently displayed Pamela, listen, Pamela. Okay, soul mate, Okay, we

1125
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: just became best friends. Like, imagine the anti blackness you

1126
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: have to be filled with to go to the African

1127
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: American Museum and be like, of course they serving chicken.

1128
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: It's like dog that's not even coming from within you.

1129
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: I promise you. That's some external shit making you feel

1130
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 2: that that that's a bad thing.

1131
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 4: And we would have tried it when we was in

1132
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 4: up there. But the loundes as long.

1133
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: As hell, cause niggas love chicken. Come on, I'm just kidding.

1134
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: They do though, but everyone does.

1135
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: Khalil says, Hey, Karen and Ray Kwan another great episode

1136
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: as always, that Karen movie looks like a movie.

1137
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: I want it.

1138
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: I want review by podcasters, but I don't intend on watching.

1139
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of karens, did you guys see the video of

1140
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: a Karen demanded the refund that burger king drive through

1141
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: while the burger King is literally on fire?

1142
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: No, oh my goodness, what, oh my god, ma'am, If

1143
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 5: you don't get out here, I'm gonna fucking hit you

1144
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: with this water.

1145
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: The Khalil put out the link is this parody?

1146
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: So the burger King, the Burger King workers are out

1147
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: the side of the burke.

1148
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: They're not even in the burger King no more king.

1149
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: Everybody in the back of the building. They I mean,

1150
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: because everything's in that flame grill. Now come on, So

1151
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: they outside saying ma'am, please get out of the drive

1152
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: through line.

1153
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: She is literally in the drive through line at the

1154
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: window trying to get this money.

1155
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: Who is she talking to because that shouldn't about to

1156
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: be in now.

1157
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, she drove, she drove her the people,

1158
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: she drove her car away, but then.

1159
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 4: She moved her.

1160
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: Car got out of the car and to yell at

1161
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: the workers to give her her money.

1162
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: Put the buildings on fire, ma'am man, nobody going back

1163
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: in that bitch.

1164
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: She'ld have like they named like Burger King is name

1165
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: after them, Like oh sure I'm missing Burger King. Let

1166
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: me check my wallet.

1167
00:55:48,800 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 4: People, ma'am. She she realized it's more of them than her,

1168
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: Like if all of them was to be like, you

1169
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: know what, bitch, you're gonna get this ass up in

1170
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 4: the day.

1171
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: I will say one thing about this white woman. She's

1172
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: been around black people. I could tell by how she cussed.

1173
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: She she she went right there with them.

1174
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't know she's gonna take it further and call

1175
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: somebody racial slur, but she went right like I really thought, normally,

1176
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: when you hit a white woman with those type of

1177
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: slurs from our culture, which has a lot of misogyny

1178
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: and a lot of casual massagy, they normally don't know

1179
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: what to do. She hit them right back like no, bitch,

1180
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: listen home, like excuse me, I didn't know.

1181
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: And that's why you want three fun you eat at

1182
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 3: Burger King, you may.

1183
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: And guess what And if it wasn't that important to you,

1184
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: why are you begging for your money, right, I mean

1185
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 4: not trying to be funny.

1186
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: You need you need the four fifty worse than we do.

1187
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: You had to. You could see the smoke, y'all, like

1188
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: you can literally see the smoke coming at the top

1189
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: of the building.

1190
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: I blame Rgie three for this and niggas like him.

1191
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: D'y's white when you get too hungy.

1192
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: Did somebody pull up at the drive through at the

1193
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 4: window back there trying to try to place an order?

1194
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: Someone? It does seem like someone trying to take him.

1195
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: Yes, somebody was at Somebody was trying to take a

1196
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: motherfucking order.

1197
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: Is this real?

1198
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: Got to be you see somebody back down? Yes, somebody

1199
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: at that sign trying to take a motherfucking order. Who's you?

1200
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: Who you talking to?

1201
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: Well, that's her car. Let me see now back there.

1202
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm wait, I'm waiting for it. The term I get

1203
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: you still got that white woman in there?

1204
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: Give a fuck? Fuck you?

1205
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: H No, wait, I don't know. I can't tell him

1206
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: it's a car back there or not caring. I think

1207
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: that car might be in the background, that that burgundy car.

1208
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I hope wouldn't nobody have to

1209
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 4: sign that would have been hilarious sight.

1210
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: That would have been fucking hilarious of just like a

1211
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: random white dude pulled up in the middle of this fight, like, y'all,

1212
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: I like to get the number two and then he.

1213
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: Gots everybody in the back of the building.

1214
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: What if he was like, I like to get a refund.

1215
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, no problem, sir, I don't know

1216
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: the register.

1217
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 4: Ist.

1218
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: Everybody else Okay.

1219
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: The alarm and shit is going off and she fussing

1220
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: out of motherfucker refs. He said, the roof is coming down.

1221
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: You think they're about to go back in now, shit, Yeah,

1222
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: that's yes. Smoke's coming at the top of the building,

1223
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: and you talk about a refund.

1224
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm myself with a total to go inside and we'll

1225
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: be there in about five to ten minutes. But that's

1226
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: just me, right, Shay says. We sit up here every

1227
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: day and watch these Karen.

1228
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: Videos and share them with whoever is within our social

1229
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: circles and seeking twisted as is, these videos are formal

1230
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: entertainment for a lot of people, including myself, So I

1231
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: don't understand being all up in arms and shook when

1232
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: someone makes an actual movie based on the caring trend.

1233
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: If your favorite TikTok person makes a sketch, you'd watch it.

1234
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: So how is it different on sn L on a

1235
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: bigger platform.

1236
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: Shake couldn't agree more.

1237
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: And it's coming to BET so it's not even like, oh,

1238
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of oh no, look at hcause they always

1239
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: use that for s and M.

1240
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: Well, these white people gonna watch it. The ain't nobody

1241
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: gonna watch this with us on BT right, nobody else

1242
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: for us? I don't know.

1243
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes I just feel like I'm a bad black person

1244
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: because I like so much shit.

1245
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 4: It ain't all and it ain't all got to be

1246
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: great and excellent.

1247
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: It seemed like the default of being black online is

1248
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: to just be so fucking at everything that's angry on

1249
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: the time, and the things that you do like you

1250
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: then have to like. But I'm very critical of.

1251
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: Making the stand like I don't I don't want I

1252
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: don't want that.

1253
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: As a fan, and I don't want to be a

1254
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: fan like that. That just feels like work.

1255
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: I don't want a thesis on Mega the Stallion. Let

1256
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: me just like her ass is and keep it pushing, Like.

1257
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: If I met a random motherfucker that was like, I

1258
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: listen to your podcast because I want to hold you

1259
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: accountab I'll be like, honestly, stop listening. Like you can

1260
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: do that when you're the producer, but other.

1261
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: Than that, you just listening. Man, leave me alone and

1262
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: let me and I want to leave you alone. I

1263
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: want everyone to just do their thing.

1264
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: It's it's okay, but yeah, this is so weird. But

1265
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: I guess that's a default. And that's how, in all fairness,

1266
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: that's how conversations happen online, and that's what.

1267
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: You know. That's what you have to anticipate as a

1268
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: creative now right.

1269
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: And also all jokes aside, and I know sometimes people

1270
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: don't mean no harm. But one thing when you was

1271
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: talking about before about how people like use words and

1272
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: they have stripped the meaning the words. Something that irritates

1273
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: me online is when people go, can we have a conversation? No,

1274
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to have a fucking conversation with you,

1275
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: because when people say they want to have a conversation,

1276
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 4: all that means I won't tell you how I feel,

1277
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 4: and fuck how you feel, and fuck anything anybody that

1278
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: says anything else against anything that I just said, even

1279
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: if what I said is irrational and illogical, and customer

1280
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: rights supremacists and shit like that. I don't want to

1281
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: hear something. So when people go, can we have a conversation,

1282
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: my answer to all the times is no.

1283
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: Well they don't want a conversation, they want a monologue.

1284
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 4: Right, So that's all I go. Know, we don't need

1285
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: to have a conversation.

1286
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: Just pay attention to the context.

1287
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: Close all those people that say I want to have

1288
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: a conversation, let's start a conversation, pay attention to their actions.

1289
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: The actions are always shutting down the other side.

1290
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: It's never let's talk about this and try to I

1291
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: want to tell you something. That's what a conversation is

1292
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: now anyway. Uh Joe Wright saying they had Robin these

1293
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: under contract a few years ago. Oh no, I mean,

1294
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: oh Thti under contract a few years ago. She could

1295
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: have made written a solid care movie in her sleep.

1296
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: But Coke Daniels, you say, the man who brought us,

1297
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: who made the potato salad. I'm gonna need you or

1298
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: Brandon to talk about it first. Yeah, I mean, you

1299
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: don't gotta watch it, but I'm gonna definitely watch it

1300
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: because this is the thing about black executive fan fiction,

1301
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: and I'll keep trying to get y'all to understand this.

1302
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as bad black executive fan fiction movies.

1303
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: They're either good and compelling thrillers and you're like, wow,

1304
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: really impressed, can't believe how good this movie is, or

1305
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: they're terrible and become immediately the best comedy that you've

1306
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: seen in years. Like there's no in between, because the

1307
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: premise are the premise to the movies are ridiculous on

1308
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: their face. When people compared this to Jordan Pill's Get Out,

1309
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: I was just like, y'all are lazy.

1310
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Speaker 4: Yeah that they're not even on the same john, They're

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: not even the same genre film.

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, stop being lazy and like actually engaged with the

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: with the critic, Like there were so many other movies

1314
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: like this, The Intruder, Traffic, Uh, Fatale.

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 4: This is Uh.

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: There is a long line of movies like this, the

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01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: one with Nia Long that just came out on Netflix

1318
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: like a couple of years ago. Like this is just

1319
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: a long line of just this is. These movies come

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 2: out once or twice a year, and I fucking live

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: for them.

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't I wish a.

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: Lot of these movies.

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could.

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01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: Get everybody the perfect guy. Oh, that had Morris Chestnut

1326
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: and and Michael Elu who specialized in being in these

1327
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: movies like I wish I could get everyone on board

1328
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: and excited as much as I am about this.

1329
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: Because it's so fun and it's such that it.

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: Sucks that there's so many people that won't allow themselves

1331
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of fun.

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01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 4: Like I said, Lakeview Terris was when the Lakeview Paris

1333
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: is the perfect comparison to Karen interracial couple moves and

1334
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: white man, black woman, black police officer with way too

1335
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: much power in the town starts harassing him because he

1336
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: hates interracial relationships. Perfect, and Sam Jackson is in it great,

1337
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 4: so good performance. I don't know, I feel like people

1338
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 4: miss the mark eting on this one.

1339
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: But what am I gonna say? I only thing I

1340
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: can control as if I see it. So all right, we.

1341
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: Had one voicemail, let's get to that. Seven O four

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: five five seven zero one eight six is the voicemail line?

1343
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 6: Sorry, Rodin sure, it's Raja from North cal I know,

1344
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: and I just wanted to thank you all for such

1345
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 6: an a reason podcast and all of those You're so

1346
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 6: funny in diteligent, and I just feel like the shows

1347
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 6: is growing and more waysy one, and when ever you

1348
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 6: get a chance, I would love cho cut one of

1349
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 6: those Blue in the shirts. Y'all have a good.

1350
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: Thank you one of the what County shirts. Let me

1351
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: play it back again. Let's see.

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01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 6: Then you get a chance, I would love to cut

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 6: one of those blue in the.

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 4: Shirts Blue in the two.

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember if I I was probably some joke

1356
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: we may I forgot. Fuck Chato will remind us if

1357
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: if y'all know what I'm talking, beoutre what you talking about.

1358
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: Or call back.

1359
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: But thank you, Roger. That was so sweet. That was

1360
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: so nice. But yeah, shout out to North Carolina. Okay,

1361
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: come on to raise up? All right?

1362
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 2: So we got some emails to get to as well.

1363
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: June teenth is out of control. This is about Angela,

1364
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: who writes in Dear Rod and Karen.

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01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: Uh, why did I click the wrong thing?

1366
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: All right, Dear Rod and Karen on Twitter, I saw

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: a stationary shop, or at least a shop that sales

1368
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: pencils offers free pencils for Juneteenth. I thought it was

1369
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: hilarious and exactly what you predicted. So I quote tweeted

1370
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: their tweet with the caption it's happening and I tagged

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: the show. I think I'm doing Twitter wrong because the

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: next thing I know is I get a notification that

1373
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: the shot retweeted my quote tweet in an unironic way.

1374
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: Lord Jesus Day, are so happy about that sale? I

1375
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: was making fun of it and they don't even know

1376
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: at any rate, I'm happy to delete that.

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: Quote tweet Angela. First of all, you shouldn't delete it.

1378
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: Two second off, this happens to me all the time

1379
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: on social media. I don't know how to properly convey

1380
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: It's hard to probably convey sarcasm in real life.

1381
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: It is, so this happens to me all the time.

1382
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: Where I am making a joke and it's someone will

1383
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: treat it kind of serious, and then it's like, now

1384
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: I feel like a dick for saying but I am joking.

1385
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Just in case, you know, I don't want you to

1386
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: get upset with or feel like you know, just like

1387
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: I want you to understand the spirits is that this

1388
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: was a joke. But then you just depending on the interaction,

1389
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: they can get awkward. Hopefully you know they're they're a

1390
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: mature person and they can be like, oh I get it, man,

1391
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: you were joking and I was serious, or you know,

1392
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: or maybe they were joking too and they were so

1393
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: good a sarcasm.

1394
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: I missed it. That sometimes happens, Like you know, sarcasm

1395
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: is hard to do on the internet. The third thing

1396
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: being I don't mind these selves.

1397
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

1398
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: I think it's cool. I think they should be doing

1399
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: shit like this.

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 2: So you know, I wouldn't be mad at the shop

1401
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: for giving away free shit on gym teem good. You

1402
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: know you do it for all these other holidays. Imagine

1403
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: how fucking weird that would be. Hey, we're gonna we're

1404
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: gonna have a seal for every holiday except this one.

1405
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: Well, what is that saying?

1406
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm looking at you cars and mattresses.

1407
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is not a real holiday us.

1408
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: I can't wait to get my June teenth running shoes.

1409
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: I'm here for that run the freedom. Whatn't Nike come on,

1410
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 4: buy one, get one three fifths off, bitch, I'll sign up,

1411
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 4: but I want to get one free, A last free,

1412
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 4: A last come on down the rack room shoes free.

1413
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: Lash June teen paradox follow up. Andrew says, good morning,

1414
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: a probably afternoon for you, Still loving you both, and

1415
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: the show. Just finished the Saturday show and wanted to

1416
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: give you a follow up regarding an incident at my

1417
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: place of work and the June team chalkboard. I did, Oh,

1418
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: this is the person at their job. They had happy

1419
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: June teens on the chalkboard and someone went and erased

1420
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: the June teen.

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01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 4: I remember that.

1422
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I did talk to my supervisor as soon as

1423
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: I noticed. I told her damn near in tears that

1424
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: I was angry, sad, and disappointed. Come on, lol, Maybe

1425
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: not those exact words. I use a lot more f words.

1426
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, more like, I fucking can't fuck whoever did this?

1427
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 2: I feel this is fucking hate speech. How am I

1428
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: supposed to work in this fucking often knowing someone had

1429
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: this opinion about a holiday celebrating the freedom of slaves,

1430
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: It's fucking blatant and obvious. Whoever did this was trying

1431
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: to send a fucking message. I feel this is a

1432
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: hostile work environment. I'm fucking going home. I'm a fucking

1433
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: sick time. Use a fucking sick time, and trust I

1434
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: was loud as can be. I'm a total introvert and

1435
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: kept keep to myself. I never go get loud or

1436
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: vocal unless you won't take me there. That day was

1437
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: the day I'm the only black person in my office.

1438
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: I've been there twelve years. For me, I felt it

1439
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: felt special for a moment, knowing we were celebrating June

1440
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: tenth in the office till some asshole ruined it.

1441
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 3: I work for the Unemployment Insurance of Pills Board.

1442
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: Our judges decided cases on if claimants qualified for benefits.

1443
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: So now, because I don't know who did it, everybody

1444
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: gets a side on. After the option to work from

1445
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: home due to COVID, but because our office is currently

1446
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: closed to the public, my job is a half mile

1447
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: from our work and all the necessitated, all the necessities

1448
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: printing their paper, et cetera, and more ergonomically correct, I

1449
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: just go into work. However, today I chose away from

1450
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: home and don't plan on returning until I'm aware of

1451
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: how the situation is being hand. My supervisors regular day

1452
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: is off Monday. As far as diversity training, as employees

1453
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: of the state, we are all required to complete mandatory

1454
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: diversity training once a year, amongst other others, harassment, et cetera.

1455
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: So whoever did it knew better?

1456
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the thing I'm thinking a lot of

1457
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 2: people don't understand about the training shit because you always

1458
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: hear this with police, like we just need some better training.

1459
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: It's like some it's hardly to imagine this because white

1460
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: people get the benefit of doubt. Some motherfuckers just can't

1461
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: be trained because they is not a lack of training, right.

1462
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 4: Saying they was sexual harassment and all types of shit.

1463
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 4: How many y'all had to go to these meetings? Come on, everybody,

1464
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 4: you know, don't say don't say anything sexually suggestive, don't

1465
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: talk about people's citties and ass don't talk about people

1466
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 4: gender and generality, like do it.

1467
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: Like there's a kind of like I don't want to

1468
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: say training is pointless because I know people that do

1469
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: training and they you know, go to colleges and they

1470
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 2: speak and they help people. That's not saying training is pointless, bros.

1471
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: Point is up to a point. It's not pointless, but

1472
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: it is. There's a point where it don't matter.

1473
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 4: Right, there's a point where we've done everything we need

1474
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: to do. So it's not that you're not trained, because

1475
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: everybody has to go through the training. So once everybody

1476
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 4: goes through the training, it's not not trained no more.

1477
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 4: You just don't care.

1478
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: Right, Then the training becomes about the other people, and

1479
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: how are we gonna hold this person account right, because

1480
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: sometimes people just don't give a fuck about that. Also,

1481
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: this person is a person judge and Slash decide who

1482
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: receves undeployment benefits at the time when POC needed the most.

1483
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Sorry for the long ass email.

1484
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: You up the great fucking work. Thank you, celestrit saying vaccines.

1485
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: How Rod and Karen I wanted to share this article

1486
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: about a pediatric practice in my city. You could probably

1487
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: have covered it by the time it gets the feedback

1488
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Oh yes, the people where seven staff members quit.

1489
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm so frustrated.

1490
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: The pandemic has been so many layers and amplification of

1491
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: all that is problematic about humans, selfishness, distrust and discrimination,

1492
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 2: short rage, thinking, inequality, and on and on. How are

1493
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: we How are you going to work in an office

1494
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: that gives children vaccinations but say you don't believe in vaccinations?

1495
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: House way.

1496
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: I try not to fall into what you call the

1497
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: depressed hot mine of Twitter, and have tried to even

1498
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: limit my time on the app, but it all feels like, Wow, humans.

1499
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: Are really just dumb.

1500
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: To where we are not locally, nationally, and globallygue the

1501
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: fact that white people by large continue to choose a

1502
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: man who said to inject bleaches a solution, versus, let

1503
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: let's follow the science, let's work together, try to give

1504
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: a shit about someone else other than yourself.

1505
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 3: Oh that reminds me.

1506
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up, because it is

1507
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: important to take a note. Washington posted a long form

1508
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: article in depth about that time that Donald Trump got

1509
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: sick with coronavirus, and they basically went all the way

1510
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: into how close he got to dine and how it

1511
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: was always a miracle they served saved them. They tried

1512
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of concoctions of a bunch of different medicines

1513
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: and needed in order to save his life, and they

1514
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: were they finally were barely able to save him. And

1515
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: they were very upset because he left at and he

1516
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: did he just acted like corona virus wasn't real. But

1517
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: that's not the part I wanted to bring up.

1518
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring up that yep, yep, yeah right.

1519
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm bringing that up is because that

1520
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: was a contentious moment for me and some of the fans.

1521
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: Because people that thought I was.

1522
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 2: They was like, no, he's a psychological mastermind who's manipulating us,

1523
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: and he faked COVID.

1524
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 4: Yes. I was like, no, he got that ship, y'all.

1525
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember talking a lot.

1526
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: A lot of people came around eventually to my side,

1527
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: but like at the beginning, it was like, nah, man,

1528
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm giving this man all the power. And I kept going,

1529
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: this is a war on truth, it's a war on reality.

1530
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: It's just these motherfuckers want you to be like, it's

1531
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: obviously not what it obviously is. I'm like a nigga

1532
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: that's been doing zero precautions against COVID, holding the rallies,

1533
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: running up on people, hugging up Vice President Coffin a

1534
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: the plane with somebody that got the COVID right, and it.

1535
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: Was sweeping through the White House.

1536
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all think this, it's gotta be a conspiracy.

1537
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: He got it, he got it.

1538
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: Right. He's doing everything counter to this. And and the

1539
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: thing is what was even more fucked up is that

1540
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 4: he tried to He didn't won't take the test, and

1541
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: then Bidam was like, well, then I'm not meeting with

1542
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 4: you Dan if you don't want to take the test.

1543
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just it's just I don't want to ever

1544
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: conceee this man being some type of fucking genius when

1545
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: he's not.

1546
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 4: He's a dumba ass.

1547
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: He's just a white man and he tapped in the

1548
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: all the privilege of that and what he gets away with,

1549
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: like the world enables him. That is, he is not

1550
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: exceptional in any area other than narcissism and bigotry and

1551
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: ship Well, he's not some exceptional fucking planner that you know,

1552
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: this twelve step planning to get sympathy so he won't

1553
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: get impeached.

1554
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not what the fuck he's doing.

1555
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 4: What he gonna do today?

1556
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 3: What is what he's gonna do tomorrow?

1557
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 5: This guy, this guy just fishing's fishing.

1558
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 4: He's fishing on you.

1559
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: What it tastes like?

1560
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 4: You know what? It tastes like this to.

1561
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: Me, That's how I was feeling reading that ship this

1562
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: in December. Now look at us, we can all look

1563
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: back and.

1564
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 4: Last Yeah, I was thinking that man almost died, like

1565
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: because he was in a hospital for I was like, oh,

1566
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: they might work around and be like the president is dead.

1567
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1568
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: People was acting like I was the crazy one. I'll

1569
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 2: be like Yeah, he definitely got.

1570
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: It, really right, you think he got him?

1571
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: Like, wait, what the fuck do y'all think? Do you

1572
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: think just do this fucking moriotty or some ship this

1573
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: niggas Trump, He's been stupid.

1574
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 4: The whole time, right, and a lot of times, with

1575
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 4: the exception of maybe a handful of people, most of

1576
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 4: the presidents, the prime ministers, whoever is run the countries

1577
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 4: that have been anti this have fucking caught it. They've

1578
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 4: caught it. They have caught this shit, like.

1579
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: You got TVs. What the hell is he doing to

1580
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 3: avoid it?

1581
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, big because his his his uh uh a

1582
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: slightly off clone over there in England fucked around and

1583
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 4: caught it and after he caught almost died. Right after

1584
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 4: he caught he was like, whoa, whoa, this COVID thing,

1585
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 4: this shit is real, y'all.

1586
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, stop giving this motherfucker. Don't give him any credit.

1587
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 2: He hasn't heard, which translates to, don't give him any credit.

1588
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: Nigga did all the behaviors of people that catch COVID people,

1589
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: was like, that can't be that we will never get

1590
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: so lucky anyway, and that black people and others of color.

1591
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So the fact that white people buy a

1592
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 2: large two is not to oh, and that black people

1593
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: other people of color continue to fall for the disinformation

1594
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: around the vaccine is being quote unquote woke or progressive

1595
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: or whatever by not getting it and knowing even though

1596
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: pandemics are different. In the last major global pandemic of

1597
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen, it really lasted three years and some of

1598
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: the similar nonsense came up, but for different reasons. Plus

1599
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: the new push of these troll farms, dark money, etc.

1600
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: That see something catch on and amplify, and people still

1601
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: not seeing the scam.

1602
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,879
Speaker 3: Like it's worse than Lucy in the football.

1603
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: This isn't even just around COVID, but it's about voting

1604
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: and voting rights, criminal just before healthcare, gun violence.

1605
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 3: And schools. Yeah. Yeah, Like one thing.

1606
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: I think about a lot is how many bots there

1607
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: are on social media. Changed a lot of just my

1608
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: interactions with people in general on social media because I

1609
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: realized that's so many bots on like say Twitter, and

1610
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 2: you could see it in real time. Someone talks about

1611
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: an issue, bots start responding, they respond to the bots,

1612
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: more bots pick up and respond, and now it's basically

1613
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: like some automated system out there is just getting the

1614
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: clicks from you, And I think about that sometimes when

1615
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: I see people who I know no better, but then

1616
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 2: they're interacting, and it's kind of like mentally playing tennis

1617
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: against the wall, where you just do it it to

1618
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: you tie yourself out for whatever you're really trying to

1619
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: avoid in your life. Like, hey, you know, cause I'm

1620
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 2: arguing with Jeff nine nine five two two three six

1621
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: seven eight two because I fuck it my life, whatever's

1622
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: going on in my life right now, I don't want

1623
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: to give that attention, So I'd rather give it to

1624
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: Jeff five five nine to seven eight nine two, Rather

1625
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: give it to him, because you know, this person that

1626
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: doesn't really exist. I'm smart enough to notice isn't real, right,

1627
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: Not enough people give a fuck about my opinion. For

1628
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: a dozen people to be mad that I said, whatever,

1629
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, this is some bullshit, And I think it

1630
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 2: changed a lot of the way I look at stuff

1631
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: in general. One, it gives me more energy.

1632
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 3: People like sometimes people ask me like, how can you

1633
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: like my friends?

1634
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: Anybody that see me interact with people on social media

1635
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: will say like, man, I would have cussed them out

1636
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: or whatever, or how you know, why did you say

1637
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: such and such? Instead of just blocking them or whatever.

1638
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: And I'm like, probably because I don't spend time going

1639
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: back and forth with the bots, right, so I have

1640
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: the bandwidth to be like, is this a real person?

1641
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: Can I actually talk to them? Are they having a

1642
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 2: good face conversation?

1643
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: Because you can tell them a person.

1644
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 3: Whereas if I was.

1645
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: Just walking down clicking every name that was in my mentions,

1646
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: I probably would have it would eventually get to me.

1647
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 3: Not even probably because it has before.

1648
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: It's it is a mental experiment that they're doing to

1649
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: our brains, and my brain will switch into aggressive fight

1650
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: or flight type mode.

1651
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 3: And now I am going back and forth with.

1652
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: People, and I don't mind going back and forth with

1653
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: people that genuinely disagree with me, that genuinely are people.

1654
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 3: That I value. You know, I still say this to folks.

1655
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: I think my mind may work a little differently than

1656
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: other folks when it comes to this, but my value

1657
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: system is this. If I've ever taken a time out

1658
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: of my life to spend going back and forth with

1659
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: you about something, it's because I give a fuck. So

1660
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: because most of the time people say something, it's not

1661
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: like you or whoever is the only motherfucker that's ever

1662
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: said some shit to me that I didn't agree with.

1663
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: I just certain people. I'm like, but I do like you,

1664
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: and I do like your opinion, and I don't want

1665
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: to go away from this having not discussed this with you.

1666
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: You are worth my time. I don't give that to everybody.

1667
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: I value my time, Yes, sir, if if if, if

1668
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: I and honestly you know, if I find someone to

1669
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: be dismissive and like that, then I just won't do

1670
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: it again. Like lesson learned, you don't value me as

1671
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: much as I value you know, nothing wrong with that

1672
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: that This is why it's healthy to set up boundaries.

1673
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set my boundaries up to not give a

1674
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: fuck no more. But yeah, So anyway, my point being,

1675
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: like a lot of this stuff, with the vaccines and

1676
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: the bots and the stuff, we're having arguments in a

1677
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: mind field like this is not an actual conversation.

1678
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: That can be had when every other body is like, hey, uh.

1679
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: Black lives don't matter. Uh you know, the vaccine is fake.

1680
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: Check out my link on YouTube.

1681
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: It's like, oh.

1682
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 4: Man, that's what they do. The box Some times they

1683
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 4: have a lot of links, a lot of posts, a

1684
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 4: lot of following me back you like, the fuck is this.

1685
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 3: And the bots?

1686
01:21:54,760 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: Now are they fluctuate two topics not necessarily driving the conversation.

1687
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: They find people who are drivers of the conversation and

1688
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: increase the.

1689
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 3: Interaction rate.

1690
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: So that's the trick that people don't get because they're like, well,

1691
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: the person who started this conversation is not about right,

1692
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: But then the replies and the back and forth, those

1693
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: people be biased. A lot of times, I have been

1694
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: so disappointed that some people who I really thought wouldn't

1695
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 2: get caught up but have unless blame the Democrats but

1696
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: not fight the Republicans. Yes, be very cynical. Many people

1697
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 2: set out protesting much of anything during the time forty

1698
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: five was in officers because they knew the consequence would

1699
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: be different.

1700
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: Now they are back.

1701
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: To protests Biden the Harris administration because they perceive that

1702
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: there won't be the same consequences. But why the federal

1703
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: administration has changed that. Everyone forget that locally is where

1704
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: impacts are felt. Yeah, I guess it's just human and

1705
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: part of the human nature at this point.

1706
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's what people did.

1707
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: And it's what people do, you know, And I'm not

1708
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: saying go out there and get fucked up by Trump.

1709
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: It's just I think there should be some consideration when

1710
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: you have people in the office that can be moved,

1711
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: that we don't have to attack.

1712
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: Them as enemies right away.

1713
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Like, there's a lot of stuff honestly that Biden and

1714
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Harris have been.

1715
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: Able to defund. I mean defund. Ah, hilarious defuse.

1716
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of shit that they've defused because

1717
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 2: they've just been ahead of where people thought they would be.

1718
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: You know, that's why you aren't you know, podcasts used to.

1719
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: Spend every episode taking down the Democrats are taken down

1720
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 2: body and taking down Harris. If you look at them now,

1721
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: it's like there's not that they think everything that doing

1722
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: is great because you know, obviously the president of the

1723
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: imperialist country, there's nothing that would never be a time

1724
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: for any president in any of our lives where will

1725
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: be all good.

1726
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: But you can.

1727
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: Tell that they're like almost like impressed and somewhat reserving

1728
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: because like, well, damn, they are tackling this issue I

1729
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: thought they should tackle.

1730
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see.

1731
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of times, a lot of the people

1732
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 4: have to start fires with or is it fire because

1733
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 4: you got to have something to talk about if your

1734
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: whole brand and if your whole thing is I get

1735
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 4: paid off of these hot takes. I get paid off

1736
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: of these opinions. I get paid off of dragging. I

1737
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: get paid off of this thing. You got to have

1738
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 4: something to talk about us while are people there and

1739
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 4: while they're listening, and why are they consuming you?

1740
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeap to circle back to the COVID response.

1741
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: I worry that when there are ebbs and flows in

1742
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: numbers cases variants, folks will seek to blame others rather

1743
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: than take responsibility for themselves. That will impact the types

1744
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: of measures federal and local governments can even pursue. After

1745
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 2: some of the legislation that has passed limiting what governments

1746
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: can do to declare health emergency. We have that in

1747
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: PA with our Jackwagon GOLP lead legislator limiting the governor

1748
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: from being able to.

1749
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 3: Declare a health emergency.

1750
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 2: What and the fact that the same GOLP states Florida

1751
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: as you went over on the show last week, has

1752
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: set themselves apart against them already industry major industry cruise

1753
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: lines in the state for political reasons we shall see.

1754
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: But I'm low key keeping my walking down mentality alive

1755
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: of who needs to be in my crew team with

1756
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: Sean Carroll, Darryl Rick and maybe Ezekiel.

1757
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, take care. Yeah, I feel you.

1758
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: I feel you, and I don't know what we're gonna

1759
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: do with the Delta Varier thing seems to be a

1760
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: lot more contagious. It may not make you more sick

1761
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: that I've read that this morning, but yeah, a lot

1762
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: of countries are like, we're putting our mask back on,

1763
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, damn right, let's go.

1764
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 3: Like, I don' not mind going back to let's mask

1765
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: it up. I don't give a fuck. I'm vaccinated. I'll

1766
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 3: still mask it up. I don't care.

1767
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: Like, if it's helpful and that's what the smarter countries

1768
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: are doing, then I'll let me go do what the

1769
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: smart people doing. Birthday mentioned Alejandra right saying hello, guys,

1770
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing awesome. Please say happy birthday to

1771
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: my minis and husband. He's a great fan of yours.

1772
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 2: He turns thirty nine on June twenty fifth. His name

1773
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: is Jonathan Howard. Thank you, sincerely, Alex, thank you, thank you,

1774
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: and happy birthday.

1775
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 4: John, Happy birthday baby.

1776
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: Okay, and uh not the not the white version. The

1777
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Stevie wonder like happy birthday to that happy birthday we

1778
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: not not the happy birthday.

1779
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, not to you, and not the restaurant kind of

1780
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 4: happy happy birthday.

1781
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 3: Got today?

1782
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah birthday? We know like forty five verses of that one.

1783
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe like fifty Marilyn Monroe, Happy birthday, you know, so.

1784
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 4: Happy happy birthday, Miss depressent.

1785
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: Boundaries, Savanna Wright saying, I love that excerpt from the

1786
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: beginning of the show always go to dunkin Donuts. I

1787
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: think Karen hit the nail on the head about boundaries.

1788
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: I've been reading a book about I just called set boundaries,

1789
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: fine piece by Nidra to Wob or to Ob.

1790
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 3: I found that if.

1791
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: You're in any kind of relationship, be it romantic, sibling, platonic, etc.

1792
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: There's an expectation that you will say yes to any

1793
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: request or favor unless you have a good reason not

1794
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: to not doing something simply because you just don't want to.

1795
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: Well, leave folks asking why you acting funny.

1796
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: No matter how nice you say it, as long as

1797
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: you're telling them a shit, they ain't trying to hear.

1798
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: Some will interpret what you say in a negative way to.

1799
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: Why mentions what Karen said about doing so much for

1800
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,959
Speaker 2: others even though no one asked you to, and then having.

1801
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,520
Speaker 3: Expectations that they will reciprocate.

1802
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: Well, if I do all that, then I just set

1803
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 2: myself up for disappointment at overstep boundaries. Yes, we have

1804
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: to set boundaries for what we accept from other folks,

1805
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: but also boundaries around our own behaviors.

1806
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, and realize that we can control us.

1807
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 4: You can't control other people, but you can't control us.

1808
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 4: And I've said this before and I say this again.

1809
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: People Sometimes we get mad at people for crossing boundaries

1810
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 4: that we never set. We don't set boundaries. They do

1811
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 4: what they're gonna do, be it intentionally and unintentionally, and

1812
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 4: then we get angry. But we never put up walls

1813
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 4: for them to say, do not pass. We never put

1814
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,440
Speaker 4: up warning signs, We never did any thing. And sometimes

1815
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 4: we get so caught up in their actions that we

1816
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 4: never turn around and look at what did I do

1817
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 4: to contribute to this, because then you will have to

1818
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 4: take responsibility and accountability for your actions and everybody. Once

1819
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: people get into their feelings, it's feeling of facts. So

1820
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 4: something am I'm about to just say, it's feeling of facts.

1821
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 4: It's about how I feel, and how you feel does

1822
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 4: not negate your actions. How you feel is valid and

1823
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 4: you have to right to feel however you want to feel.

1824
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 4: But after you push through those feelings, because the feelings

1825
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: are gonna come okay, and you sit in them and

1826
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: you resting them, and then you got to say what

1827
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 4: do I do now? And most people aren't aren't emotionally

1828
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 4: intelligent enough, not trying to be funny to get to

1829
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 4: the point that they say what do I do now?

1830
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 4: They sit in those feelings, and they don't get beyond

1831
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 4: sitting in those feelings. And I've been hurt and I

1832
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: they did me like this and the pain that I felt,

1833
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 4: and how could they? And why did they? And everything

1834
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: becomes about them them them them them them them that

1835
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 4: they don't do that next step to go what did

1836
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 4: I do? Because if once you get to the to

1837
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 4: the point where you go, well, what did I do?

1838
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 4: Then you have to be accountable. You got to be responsible,

1839
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: and then you have to learn how to change and

1840
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 4: adjust your actions because sometimes you are mad and you

1841
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 4: upset at a person for them crossing crossing boundaries that

1842
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 4: you never set, and that becomes a big problem because

1843
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 4: that's the problem I had. I would be mad and

1844
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: upset at people for crossing boundaries that I didn't know

1845
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 4: I need to set and they didn't know they crossed.

1846
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 4: That's a problem. So then I had to learn how

1847
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 4: to set my boundaries up and learn how to tell

1848
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 4: people what no, I'm not doing this and no I'm

1849
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 4: not doing that, and it becomes healthier for everybody around

1850
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 4: because a lot of times, most people, most people now,

1851
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 4: you do have people to take advantage. Most people that

1852
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 4: do things to hurt you in this form do not

1853
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 4: do it on purpose, and people don't want to believe that.

1854
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: But the average person does not say, my whole purpose

1855
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 4: is the fuck with you, My whole purpose is to

1856
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 4: get over on you. My whole purpose is to hurt you.

1857
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 4: That was not their goal, nor was it their purpose.

1858
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: That's a hard part for most people to understand and

1859
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: accept because in our heads, we're our own protagonists, and

1860
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 2: the way the narratives are set up, if I'm a protagonist,

1861
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: someone has to be an antagonist, and the antagonist has

1862
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 2: to be a person that is evil or is out

1863
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: the harmy and they could be harming you. That's true,

1864
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean that they wake up everyone and

1865
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: they think my goal is to harm you, right, you know,

1866
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 2: and like I said, it's to me personally. That made

1867
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: it easier to set up boundaries as opposed to harder

1868
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: because I have empathy for people.

1869
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 3: But it's like, this is the best you can do,

1870
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 3: This is not it.

1871
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: You have to go do the best away from me,

1872
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: because what you're doing is actually really.

1873
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: Fucked up for me.

1874
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's not to.

1875
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 2: Say you can't improve, can't do better, but whatever this is,

1876
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 2: it affects me in such a way I.

1877
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Can't be around it.

1878
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: Someone had tweeted this Aria Hope Underscore on Twitter said,

1879
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 2: cutting ties of people who consistently hurt you isn't enough.

1880
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,839
Speaker 2: You must also cut ties of the version of yourself

1881
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: who allowed that shit to.

1882
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 3: Continue for as long as it did. And I think

1883
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 3: that's a.

1884
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Great way to look at it, which is like, what

1885
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 2: am I changing to not be the person that is

1886
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: in this cycle? Because with a lot of people that

1887
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: experienced this, that will find well, this isn't the first

1888
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 2: time that's happened to me, or this happens to me

1889
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 2: all the time, or you know, like it's consistently a

1890
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: lot of people just do me like this, And it's

1891
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 2: like some point you he's not to blame. If you

1892
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 2: come from a place of blame and guilt and anger

1893
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: and shame, you won't be able to see this. But

1894
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 2: if you come at it from a place of solution oriented,

1895
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 2: I just want to find a solution. And this isn't

1896
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 2: about shaming anybody. It's like, what things do I need

1897
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: to change? What do I need to know about myself

1898
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: to put myself in a better position? And I have

1899
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: to deal with this to not constantly be, you know,

1900
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 2: feeling like I under the gun.

1901
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 4: Yes, and I can speak from a personal experience. The

1902
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 4: biggest thing that I learned once I got to the

1903
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 4: point that I began to look within and go, well, well,

1904
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: what is it that I need to correct or fix

1905
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 4: or change. I had to learn how to forgive myself

1906
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: personally because I got on myself really, really bad. Because

1907
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 4: then I began to to kind of beat myself up

1908
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 4: internally and go, well, I should have known, I should

1909
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 4: have seen the sign I did not know. You know,

1910
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: why am I so stupid? Why am I so dumb?

1911
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: Why you so so so? It became like a huge

1912
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 4: self doubt thing, and I just began to almost tell

1913
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 4: myself apart on the inside, like and I and it's

1914
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 4: one thing where I understood their behavior, Like I got

1915
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 4: past past that point of blaming them and go, okay,

1916
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: let me look inside. And then I begin to just

1917
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 4: look at the walls and just begin to destroy it

1918
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 4: because I like what it's all I mean, it's all

1919
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it's all on me. And I didn't know

1920
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 4: how to handle that because blame changed, right, And but

1921
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 4: then I had to learn that you don't know what

1922
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 4: you don't know, m and you everybody gets to the

1923
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 4: point that they learn things within their timeframe, and I

1924
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 4: had to learn that too. So I had to say, well,

1925
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I know now, so I have to

1926
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 4: do better. And so that's when I began to forgive

1927
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 4: myself because I can't beat myself up for not knowing

1928
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 4: something that I know now. That's that's counterproductive, right, and

1929
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. But you can get to that point.

1930
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 4: So once I got to the point where I was like,

1931
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 4: you know what I didn't know, I can't get mad

1932
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 4: because I didn't know. Now I do know? What do

1933
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 4: I do with the tools and the equipment that I have?

1934
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 4: Now I set boundaries. What do I do now? I

1935
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: forgive myself. What do I do now I understand myself?

1936
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 4: What do I do now? I understand that I can

1937
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 4: not allow this to prevent nor stop me from into

1938
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 4: because for me, I just shut everything down, like I

1939
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 4: was like, well, fuck it, I won't talk to nobody,

1940
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 4: I won't communicate with nobody. I don't want anybody around

1941
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 4: me because I don't want to be the fool again.

1942
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 4: You're like, like, I literally just shut it down, no

1943
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 4: new friends, fuck it. Well, then everybody just out, like

1944
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 4: everybody just get the fuck away from me because I

1945
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 4: don't because and a lot of times when you do that,

1946
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 4: that is nothing but pain and hurt talking. And when

1947
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 4: you do that, that's, like I said before, you lashing

1948
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 4: out and people end up getting hit with straight bullets

1949
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 4: from you lashing out that literally had nothing to do

1950
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: with it, not associated with it. And they actually are

1951
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 4: trying to help because they can see your pain, but

1952
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 4: because you're in so much pain, even them helping looks

1953
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 4: like an attack. So I had to learn how to

1954
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 4: calm myself down internally and understand that you have to

1955
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 4: look at it from a calm place, and you have

1956
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 4: to look at it from a place of peace, and

1957
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 4: you have to look at it from a place of

1958
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 4: not blaming. But what can I do to actually resolve

1959
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: the situation? What can I do to actually get to

1960
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 4: the point that not only do I resolve it, I'm

1961
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 4: healing from it, so I'm actually being a better person.

1962
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 4: So the next time it comes, because it will happen

1963
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 4: again just human nature. We're just human nature, and we're

1964
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 4: bumping into people. So once these things happened again, I

1965
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 4: realized I was responding differently. I wasn't responding out of anger.

1966
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 4: I was just telling people know. And then I realized, oh, down,

1967
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 4: I'm at a healthier place. But it's hard for people

1968
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 4: to get there because everybody learns that different ways. Some

1969
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 4: people learn it on their own, may be like me,

1970
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 4: but some people might need to go to the extra

1971
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 4: step and go to therapy to learn it. Whatever it

1972
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 4: takes to get you to that point that you understand,

1973
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 4: whatever the best method is for you to get to

1974
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 4: the point that you can get past that.

1975
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, blame, isn't it really changed? Like

1976
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 2: so sitting in that isn't necessarily the same as sitting

1977
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: in like a solution, you know, right, it just makes

1978
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: you like, it just gives you something to obsess over,

1979
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: and like you said, you just sit there blaming yourself.

1980
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 3: Now you're just obsessing, yes, but you're not changing.

1981
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm a work in progress in this whole boundary set

1982
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 2: in practice, but it has made a very positive impact

1983
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: on my life.

1984
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: Also, I've let go of over explaining my boundaries because,

1985
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 3: like I said before.

1986
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: If you're not going, if you're not doing what someone

1987
01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: wants you to do, then a lot of times then

1988
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 2: trying to hear what you have to say. Therefore, I've

1989
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: stopped trying to explain myself to people, even close loved

1990
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: ones who are committed to misunderstanding me.

1991
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: I feel you on that one hundred percent.

1992
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: For me, it's no longer requirement for others to understand

1993
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: my boundary and order for me to enforce them.

1994
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 3: Right.

1995
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, honestly, I'm a person that loves

1996
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 2: to be understood, love communication. I would love for people

1997
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: to be like I do get where you're coming from.

1998
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not possible, you know. I think sometimes true

1999
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 2: love and true trust is like you can tell somebody

2000
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 2: something about something you don't want to do and they

2001
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 2: can kind of not understand, but understand enough that you

2002
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 2: thought about it, you're serious, and that there's no need.

2003
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 3: To try to force it right.

2004
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 2: Like I had a conversation with a friend the other

2005
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: day where they were doing something. Now I was like, yeah,

2006
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't want don't do that around me, you know,

2007
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 2: like not telling you what to do as a human

2008
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 2: being in your life, but I would appreciate if you

2009
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 2: stop that. And you know, they was like, why is

2010
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 2: it because of this?

2011
01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 3: Is because of that?

2012
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, this is my reasoning why

2013
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 2: I think that's not a good thing, and they was

2014
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: like I ain't no problem like and then I was like, cool,

2015
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 2: thank you, you know what I mean, love you appreciate it,

2016
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: and let's move on cause it didn't have to become

2017
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: like an ego contest or.

2018
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not one hundred percent sure they understood my.

2019
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 2: Reason, but they understood it enough to be like, okay,

2020
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 2: if scenes to bother you cool, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

2021
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 2: I got love for you and I appreciate you, and

2022
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,799
Speaker 2: that's the value is what matters to me. The intent

2023
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 2: matters to me a lot, Like I'm not one of

2024
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 2: these Intent doesn't matter if intent matters a hell of

2025
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 2: a lot. Yes, it's very important because intention is what

2026
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 2: changes things, you know, like like true intention changes people.

2027
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's just stuff that you don't have to understand.

2028
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: But you can be like, all right, cool, Hey, don't

2029
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,919
Speaker 2: this bothers me? Can you not call me that? No problem,

2030
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best not to call you that

2031
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: like I might. I may suck up because I'm human,

2032
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 2: but just understand, I will, I will fit, I will

2033
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: try to fix that and and not do.

2034
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 3: It again, because that's what the fuck I'm here for.

2035
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: Just to make you feel comfortable too, because I don't

2036
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 2: want to be that friend.

2037
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 3: That's a lot of working shit right.

2038
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 2: Well, anyways, I could go on and on about boundaries,

2039
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to say I love the excerpt

2040
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 2: by from kelto Williams.

2041
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2042
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 2: Uh. Alisha says, our kid is out here wild and

2043
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 2: oh she just sent us the menu thing. Oh she's

2044
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 2: in for a surprise, she said, Hey, Rod and care

2045
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 2: please tell me seen this. I Kia Atlanta tried to

2046
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 2: be help and change up the menu for June team Baha.

2047
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: I guess they thought the employees would let it slide,

2048
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 2: but no, they all had a collective uh not on

2049
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: my watch moment. It was your cars all over the

2050
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 2: place that day. The other Alisha who used to write

2051
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: into the show, and.

2052
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh Lisha, oh Lisha. We was on the

2053
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 3: I Kia side. Mad.

2054
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 4: Now I can't get fried chickens because y'all mad niggas.

2055
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Mark Wright saying, hey, Rod and care Aaron,

2056
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 3: this is Mark from Brooklyn. This week's shows were extra good.

2057
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 2: The reading Rainbow segment about making yourself happy head home.

2058
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 2: We teach that same principle in freemasonry, be happy out

2059
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: ourselves and promote the happiness of others. The last episode,

2060
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: Karen the Movie, was a double entendre because Karen jokes

2061
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: were a movie.

2062
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Karen had me Rowland. Love you guys, Mark, Thanks.

2063
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Mark Trey Wright saying hey, Rod and Karen wanted to

2064
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: say love the show and I'm glad I stumbled upon it.

2065
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 2: You guys have inspired me in ways that I never

2066
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: thought podcasts could. Let me just say, I find it

2067
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: odd how a lot of the articles you read in

2068
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 2: your segments, like soord raction has come from Tennessee as

2069
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 2: a black Tennessee and this behavior does not surprise me.

2070
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 3: These motherfuckers are crazy. Aha.

2071
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 2: It's like the less melanie and the more fresh air

2072
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 2: they get, the crazy they get. Can I just say

2073
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 2: that Candice coon Owens needs to find a trash can

2074
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 2: to shut the snout of hers.

2075
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 3: I've counted several coons in.

2076
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 2: My youth for twenty one years, but I'm just now

2077
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 2: learning how to just shake my head and pity the

2078
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 2: food which to remain ignorant.

2079
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: I learned that at twenty one, you.

2080
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 4: Are so ahead of him, Yes, you are, you ahead

2081
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:09,480
Speaker 4: of the curve.

2082
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: You way ahead of me because I definitely was a

2083
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 2: I definitely was I'm gonna sit up here and argue

2084
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 2: with this nigga type of person. I really wish I

2085
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 2: would have learned like the cues of self hating shit earlier.

2086
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well, I see what's something. I'm good.

2087
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 3: I don't need to go down this rabbit hole because I'm.

2088
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Definitely a give a nigga a chance type person, and that, well,

2089
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: it took me forty years to learn.

2090
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Not everybody needs a chance. No, not for me.

2091
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,440
Speaker 2: The fun that the truck, the fact that the truck

2092
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: driver is getting off like that irritates me. It's one

2093
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 2: of the reasons. I'm making my five year plan so

2094
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:46,520
Speaker 2: I can get into a good JD slash NBA program.

2095
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 2: We need more black lawyers and entrepreneurs because, let's face it,

2096
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: judges are less like today's monarchs. They serve lifelong sentences

2097
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 2: and dictate whether your punishment su is the crime. If

2098
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: I was a judge, I would have thrown the book

2099
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 2: at his ass like they like he was. Harry Potter

2100
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 2: shout out to the Big thirty when I saw say lawyers,

2101
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 2: I don't mean just criminal defense, but in every field.

2102
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just Memphis, but every lawyer I speak to

2103
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,560
Speaker 2: is a criminal justice or injury lawyer. And I'm not

2104
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 2: knocking a hustle, but I've lost faith in capitalism and

2105
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: African Americans being accepted into the system that was meant

2106
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 2: to belittle us.

2107
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 3: Everybody loves us.

2108
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: They love our music, our food, our inventions, and they

2109
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 2: don't even give us credit.

2110
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 3: They just take our culture and demonize our communities.

2111
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 2: It's simply the only thing that Caucadians are good at

2112
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 2: taking it saying it's theirs. Segregation was not the golden days,

2113
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 2: but it was like when we realized that as a

2114
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 2: people that we were the only ones who had our

2115
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 2: interest at the forefront of our mind. Whites realized that,

2116
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,480
Speaker 2: and they decided to riot to prevent us from helping ourselves.

2117
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: They want to keep us down and force us into

2118
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: a single niche for our whole lives, hoping we don't

2119
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: look up.

2120
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 3: And realize there are opportunities around us as well as

2121
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 3: above us.

2122
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: When my family having plenty of men serving in the

2123
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 2: armed forces, I've been encouraged and discouraged to join the

2124
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: armed forces heavily. Yeah, one thing is funny about having

2125
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 2: a family and the armed forces. There's nothing more encouraging

2126
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: to join the armed forces than a family member.

2127
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 3: There's nothing more discouraging than.

2128
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 4: Uh, you talked to.

2129
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: There's plenty of black dudes that look you dead in

2130
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: your eyes and be like, black man, ain't got no

2131
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,839
Speaker 2: place in the white man's army.

2132
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what the fuck happening to you

2133
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 3: in there, but I don't want none.

2134
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 4: I don't want that. I'm heavily They had their hang

2135
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 4: their flag and salute it and will turn around and

2136
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 4: be and be like, oh fuck a white man up.

2137
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 4: Het fucked my property too. So you know these niggas

2138
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 4: on line talking about everybody army and coon, no they're not.

2139
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: That's how seasy to a fucking uh uh Captain America

2140
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: and the winter Soldier. I'm going in saying being like

2141
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 2: black man ain't got no place in white man's army,

2142
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: and be like damn marvel. I'm heavily considered applying for

2143
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 2: American course visa visa last year.

2144
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 3: I mean for a year and joining the Air Force

2145
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 3: for four years.

2146
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 2: Let's be out this law school and business school is expensive,

2147
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: and I would be the first person.

2148
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 3: My family to attend those feats.

2149
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 2: After reading about the financial aid programs that keep students

2150
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: who wish to break a.

2151
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Glass sel him by going into these.

2152
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Fields and networks, I want to mitigate that risk as

2153
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 2: much as possible.

2154
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that my dad.

2155
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 2: Was an Air Force dude that did I want to say,

2156
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: I can't remember how many years. I want to say

2157
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: two years, and then they paid for two years of

2158
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 2: school and then he got his degree that way and

2159
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 2: became a computer programmer.

2160
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, a lot of black around people end up

2161
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 4: getting say education degrees and things like that through the army.

2162
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 4: Like you know, it's one of those things, but it

2163
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 4: ain't quote unquote all bad.

2164
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was able to do that and you know,

2165
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Speaker 2: lift himself and subsequently my family out of a cycle

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Speaker 2: of poverty that knock on wood obviously, but so far

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01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: we have not re experienced. And you know, so it's

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01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 2: like these systems are in place, and.

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Speaker 3: I feel you when you say, like capitalism is it

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Speaker 3: for black people?

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01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: And shit, I think everyone agrees on that, mostly because

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01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: we've been frozen out of it.

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01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 3: So it's obvious it's not for us. They won't let

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Speaker 3: us be part of it.

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Speaker 2: But there are some mechanisms in place that we can

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01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: use to our advantage. I mean, you got one life

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01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 2: to live, and you know, you can spend it on

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01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 2: the sidelines being like this ain't fair, or you can

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01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: be like, all right, let me see what I can

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01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: work to my advantage, to my people's advantage.

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Speaker 4: Right, because one thing about us, we have always been

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01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 4: an innovative people. And it's one of those things where

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Speaker 4: you shut that door, we'll fuck around and open the

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01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 4: window that you didn't even know what's there. How that

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01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: window get there, because bitch, we broke the We actually

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01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 4: cut into the wall, made the window, put the window

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01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 4: there and open it up and stepped in. You know,

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01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 4: because that's just how we work. We'll find a ways

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01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 4: around things.

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01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, being black in this world, we would never experience

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 2: equality as it's meant to be. Racism is embedded in

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01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: every society that imperialless Europeans touched.

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Speaker 3: Damn Honkys.

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01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Africa wouldn't be in the way it is if it

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01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 2: weren't for Caucasian monarchs thinking their own people. So in

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01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: my eyes, serving in the military, working for Corporate America

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01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: for biweekly check, or being in the system is the same.

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01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 2: We will never truly be free, whether it's African Americans

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Speaker 2: or human beings. Your shows may be realizing sometimes people

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01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 2: don't care and finding those who do care is like

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Speaker 2: finding fifty dollars bill on the ground.

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01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Rare as fuck. So until I dive, except that.

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01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I won't see true freedom, revolution and reparations, I will

2204
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: strive to fuck over Uncle Sam and Big Caucasia at

2205
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 2: the Big Caucasia. I like that TM at their own

2206
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: game while ensuring the greater good for those who are pressed.

2207
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 2: If I died for achieve that's so being fuckamal best wishes,

2208
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: playing Thanks Trade ps and listening to twenty three eighty

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01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,520
Speaker 2: five at the moment realizing this complied.

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01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: To this podcast episode as well or not at all.

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01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: I just wanted to email you guys, hope you have

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01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 3: a great day and week all ain't well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks brother twenty one man, you got a lot of

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01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 2: You sound a lot like how I've sounded at twenty one.

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01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of black people kind of go

2216
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 2: through what you're going through.

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01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 3: Just like somewhat anger, somewhat resentment.

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01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if we ever stopped going through it,

2219
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 2: but you know, trying to figure out this path because

2220
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot at twenty one, you gotta be thinking

2221
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: about military.

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01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 4: School, job. At that period of time, you like, Okay,

2223
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 4: what life path do I want to take? And just

2224
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 4: know regardless of what you picked, it would continue to change,

2225
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 4: It will continue to evolve, it will continue to grow.

2226
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 4: You might go down one path and be like, I

2227
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 4: don't want to do this shit, let me do something else.

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01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 2: The main thing I would like to say from reading

2229
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 2: what you wrote is this, don't put all the pressure

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01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: of blackness on yourself. You are not responsible to get

2231
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 2: all the black people out of anywhere. You're not responsible.

2232
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 2: And this is not to say you should be anti black.

2233
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 2: You should be like fuck all black people. But remember

2234
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 2: to never say fuck yourself. You part of this too,

2235
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 2: and what you want out of life matters, and what

2236
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 2: makes you happy matters. So don't just skip all of

2237
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 2: this in some type of responsibility to the greater blackness

2238
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 2: that you end up either being miserable or making a

2239
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 2: bunch of decisions that you really don't want to do,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So find what makes you happy,

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01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 2: and I think you'll find at least the way it's

2242
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 2: worked for me is I find what makes me happy,

2243
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 2: and then my natural politics and beliefs and all that

2244
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: stuff fill in the gaps. So I'll find a way

2245
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 2: to be me and to speak what I believe to

2246
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: be the truth no matter where I'm at. Raphael right

2247
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: saying hello, Rick, Hello, Karen and Rod, host of the

2248
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 2: best podcasts in the world. You A announcing that it

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01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 2: is offering vaccines a tourist is an extension of its

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Speaker 2: strategy for getting everyone vaccinated.

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01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 3: I have a high school classmate.

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01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 2: For back in Nigeria who has been living there for years,

2253
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: and he has told me in April it was mandatory

2254
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 2: for everyone to get the vaccines in the country, but

2255
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 2: whether the cat got out the bag was when the

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01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 2: leading opposition presidential candidate in the last presidential election in

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01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 2: Nigeria photos of himself receiving the FAZI vaccine on social

2258
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 2: media while in Dubai, way before Nigeria started giving out

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01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:12,520
Speaker 2: the vaccines. No, Dubai is a big destination for Nigerians

2260
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 2: and many Africans look up long time wait, look up

2261
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 2: Zimbabwe gold traffic for a business and pleasure. The wife

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01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 2: of the Nigerian president was based there for a long

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01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: time probably received a shot there too. The most important

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01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 2: thing for me is that the vaccine denial and the

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01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 2: Republican conspiracy theories are huge on the continent right now.

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01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 2: So if people realize they can't enter their favorite spot

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01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 2: without taking the vaccine, despite sounding draconian to an extent,

2268
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: it might be it might be the message that.

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01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 3: Many of my brethren back home will be willing to accept.

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01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: I hope other popular destinations will do similar to but

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01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I also am not aware that UAE

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01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 2: offered to donate vaccines along through the G seven countries,

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01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: even though they are responsible for the schl's. I think

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 2: they said there right, and amongst the top five vaccinated

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01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 2: countries in the World. The emir vaccinated there before the

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01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:06,520
Speaker 2: pandemic along.

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Speaker 3: With the King of Saudi Arabia. Keep up the great work, Raphael.

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Speaker 2: Thanks and last one this is from Tierra who says

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: it is it terror? Oh it's Tierra. Okay, I forgot

2280
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: I knew that postrews in there. Hey, Rody Caen Gray

2281
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 2: shows this week, especially pregame in Bollsey Sports with Dominic Rivera.

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 3: I crack up every time y'all play the Ray lewis,

2283
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 3: what are we gonna do?

2284
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 4: So yes, let me come down.

2285
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 2: Because I'm a Ravens fan number one and two. I

2286
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 2: remember Ray made those comments and the reaction to it.

2287
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 3: A lot of people agree with him.

2288
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the players can't go on strike because

2289
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 2: if there's no NFL games, people, not NFL players, but

2290
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,440
Speaker 2: people will just do crime.

2291
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 3: Watch how Much Evil, which we call it crime Watch

2292
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 3: how much Crime? So if you take away our game,

2293
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 3: why do you think that would happen?

2294
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 4: There's nothing else to do, Soyle like we have to do.

2295
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: We have to end the lockout because crying about to

2296
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: go up. I started watching I Sniper on Vice and

2297
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 2: saw y'all were watching it too.

2298
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 3: I was in sixth grade.

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01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 2: When that was going down, and I remember my friends

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01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: and I looked out for white vans outside of our schools.

2301
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 2: There were rumors the killers could have been making their

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01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 2: way up to Baltimore. As a result, they canceled outdoors

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01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: recess and kids had to be dropped off in the

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 2: back of the building where it would be difficult for

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01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 2: snipers to pick our.

2306
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 3: Children, teachers and parents.

2307
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 2: I lived behind my school, like one hundred feet away,

2308
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 2: and steal my mom walked me to school or kept

2309
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 2: a very close army. Anyway, when I watched this documentary,

2310
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel relieve. Allen Muhammad was eventually

2311
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 2: executed and Lee Malvo was spending the rest of his

2312
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 2: days in jail. If he and John were never caught,

2313
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:51,759
Speaker 2: who knows how many more people.

2314
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,560
Speaker 3: Would have been killed or wounded. Well, listen, this is

2315
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 3: what's trying to say to err. Cops don't solve anything.

2316
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. They didn't prevent the so

2317
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 3: what's the point of having them.

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 2: I understand that people who ain't for prison abolition, but

2319
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: for people like Malvo, no, they have no place in

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01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 2: society in my opinion. Up soft folks yesterday claimed they

2321
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 2: were there for abolition, but say, Chauvein is an exception

2322
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 2: square that circle for me.

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01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 3: Come on, So I saw that a lot of that.

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, those are the moments that give me hope because

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01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 2: I feel like people can be so full of shit,

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01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 2: and it is so rare that we have a moment

2327
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 2: where the Internet kind.

2328
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 3: Of reflects life, because that's life.

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01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: Life is Derek Chauvain needs to go to jail for

2330
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,759
Speaker 2: a long time.

2331
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 3: That's life.

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01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 2: Anyone that don't agree with that is probably pretty fucked

2333
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 2: up either. They're such an absolutist that they're like so

2334
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 2: like they're like they might as well just be on

2335
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 2: the cutting edge of Like, I am a forgiveness warrior.

2336
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't think nobody should go to jail for nothing. Okay, cool, congratulations,

2337
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,919
Speaker 2: you're better than me. The rest of us human beings

2338
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: saw man murdered in cold blood and think there should

2339
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 2: be a fucking cost of that. That should be a

2340
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 2: consequence to that shit, And it shouldn't just be us

2341
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 2: going shame on you, shaking our fingers, go to fucking

2342
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 2: jail like you low.

2343
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 4: Key got off light.

2344
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 3: That is the what you did was that horrible?

2345
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, this you know, this idea that like everybody

2346
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 2: needs to say the right things, and they do say it.

2347
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 2: You know, It's like I said, it's how I know

2348
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 2: social media can't really be one hundred cent real because

2349
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: like it's too much about joining into a group so

2350
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 2: you can get the likes and the retweets, even if

2351
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 2: you don't, even if it's not your belief system for

2352
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 2: the moments that you are online or the online representation

2353
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 2: of yourself.

2354
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 3: It needs to be right, even if.

2355
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 2: We're our behaviors aren't gonna show it, even if we're

2356
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: gonna be exposed later to be like that's not act

2357
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 2: be true. That we have to understand we exist in

2358
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: this dichotomy. Exist, we exist in this hypocritic, in this hypocrisy.

2359
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 4: We all do. Yes, we do.

2360
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 2: And anyone that asks like they above this shit, man,

2361
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 2: you probably full of shit.

2362
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 3: Or you still even in the.

2363
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 2: Even in the sober light of day, you still acting

2364
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,520
Speaker 2: for other people, You still performing.

2365
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm not Gandhi, who also herd was horrible, But I'm

2366
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 3: not Gandhi.

2367
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 2: If you fucking hurt somebody I love, I want to

2368
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 2: harm you, and I want harm to come to you.

2369
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm not above that.

2370
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: It's why I respect people that are able to arrive

2371
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 2: to a conclusion that's above that, because I do understand

2372
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 2: that that's probably better, right, Like in a world where

2373
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 2: we forgive each other and all this shit is a

2374
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 2: better place. I really do believe that, because we all

2375
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: do make mistakes. But I got limits. Dog, I ain't,

2376
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking Jesus. Come over here, run up, get

2377
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 2: done up, and then we talk about the shit later.

2378
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,879
Speaker 2: So so like when I see, you know, these motherfuckers finally

2379
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 2: drop the bullshit and be like, Okay, yeah, this person

2380
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 2: is harm and they.

2381
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 3: Do it all the time.

2382
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 2: They do because what happens is when people are defending

2383
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 2: these when people are talking about dismantling the systems, they

2384
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 2: really talking about dismantling it for people like them. Yes,

2385
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 2: but whenever, and this is the reason the systems never

2386
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 2: get dismantled, but whenever it's a person not like them.

2387
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: When a person has harmed someone like you, you want

2388
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 2: that system to crush them. And that's why we won't

2389
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 2: get rid of it. And it's also why it's a

2390
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: fucking lie when so many people who are not forgiving,

2391
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: very vindictive, very patty, very uh uh, that sees on

2392
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 2: the smallest instances of things that go hypercritical. People that

2393
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 2: want to quote unquote cancel celebrities for a bad opinion.

2394
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Those people are not capable of dismantling the system.

2395
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 3: That is that is that is predicated upon.

2396
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Our ability and our willingness to want to see someone punished.

2397
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: Those people are, They're lying to your fucking face, you

2398
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: can't be I need Nick Cannon canceled. But this other

2399
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: person who's a rapist by in the box, they should

2400
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 2: be able to work anywhere they want to work. You

2401
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 2: don't believe both of those things at the same time.

2402
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Come on and it can execute that.

2403
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 3: You can't if you don't want.

2404
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna Scarlet Johansson to ever work again, and you're

2405
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 2: gonna bring up.

2406
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 3: Everything she's ever done wrong every time you see her name.

2407
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 2: You're no different fundamentally on a moral level, You're no

2408
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: fucking different. Cause because that's like saying, okay, I would, i'll, i'll,

2409
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna hold.

2410
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 3: It against Scarlet Johanson. But this guy who's been a

2411
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 3: rapist and now needs to work again.

2412
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 2: That guy, I don't think we should ever bring that up.

2413
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 2: And I think he should be able to work wherever

2414
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 2: he wants to. You don't really believe that.

2415
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 3: Fundamentally, you're not the same.

2416
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 2: If you read these celebrity apologies and you will never

2417
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 2: see one where you're like, Okay, they probably sorry, we

2418
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 2: can move on. Then why would you ever believe a

2419
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 2: fucking convicted felon's apology when they express remorse in the

2420
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 2: courtroom or for parole.

2421
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: You don't believe in that.

2422
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 2: You believe in keeping a little bit of petty power

2423
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 2: you have socially, but you not go on weld it

2424
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 2: that way.

2425
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 3: Criminally, it's the one thing they want to admit. Man.

2426
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: I read that book, Locking Up Our Own, and the

2427
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: last chapter is so important because essentially what it says

2428
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 2: is the true key, the true chure to dismanting all

2429
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 2: this shit is an actual heart of forgiveness. Yes, and

2430
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 2: nobody fucking has it. Everyone thinks you're a fool for

2431
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 2: having it.

2432
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 4: Yes, you're joked, you're joked online that it's a weakness

2433
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 4: to be like I forgive you. People will act like

2434
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 4: there's something wrong with you because social media rewards petting

2435
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 4: this social and the media every was being angry all

2436
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 4: the time. Social media everyward was pull out your pitchforks

2437
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 4: and going after everybody and nobody is right but you

2438
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 4: you're actually rewarded for that. If you turn around and

2439
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 4: you'd be like, I'm sorry, my bad or apologize, social

2440
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 4: media will tell you there's something wrong with you for

2441
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 4: having a heart.

2442
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you can't have emotions, but understand when

2443
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: your emotions are in direct conflict with what you claim

2444
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 2: you want to see, what's gonna happen is what your

2445
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: emotions do, not not what you claim to want to see,

2446
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, when the heat

2447
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 2: is on, we're gonna go back to what we emotionally feel.

2448
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a perfect example because I you know,

2449
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 2: I doubt. I mean, maybe somebody's listening to this that don't.

2450
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 3: Agree with me. But let's let's let's give me Let's

2451
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 3: make it specific for a second. However you feel about

2452
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 3: Amy Cooper.

2453
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 2: Is how is how someone who's been victimized by an

2454
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: actual because that happened to you, that happen to Christian Cooper.

2455
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 2: However you feel about Christian Cooper is how you feel

2456
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 2: about restorative justice, and it's how you feel about prison abolition.

2457
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 2: It's actually how you feel about criminal justice. It's actually

2458
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 2: how you feel about the system.

2459
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 3: Period. I'll just put it like that, and I don't

2460
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 3: care if people get mad. It's the truth. However you

2461
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 3: feel about that, dude, is the truth. That's who you

2462
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 3: really are inside.

2463
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 2: So if you look at that, dude and go you

2464
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 2: should have fucking pursued up to the end of she

2465
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 2: should be in prison, and.

2466
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 3: It's your fault.

2467
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 2: All you wanted to do is not participate in the

2468
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 2: system and go on with your life, and you're a

2469
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: fucking fool. Then that is really how you feel about

2470
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 2: all this shit.

2471
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 3: So don't lie to me. Don't lie to me.

2472
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 2: You want leniens for people that look like you. You

2473
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 2: don't want lenients from the system. You want lenience for

2474
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 2: motherfuckers that remind you of you. It's really a weird

2475
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 2: form of Nazis system. You care about niggas that look

2476
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 2: like you, and that's it. Everybody else can go to jail.

2477
01:59:58,320 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 3: You know, that's the truth.

2478
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 4: You know.

2479
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 3: I'll just come on here and try to be honest

2480
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 3: about it. You know, I said it with Dylan Ruth.

2481
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: You know, people mocked the fucking people mocked black people

2482
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 2: who lost.

2483
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 3: People in the fucking shooting.

2484
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 2: Niggas talking about some forgiveness the church going Southern Blaptist

2485
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,879
Speaker 2: black people who just had a fucking tragedy happened directly

2486
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 2: to the people they love and them, not you, them,

2487
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 2: and you talked shit about them in.

2488
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 3: One of the hardest moments I'm sure of their lives ever.

2489
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: And they still somehow in that moment said I forgive

2490
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 2: this dude, and you know, blah blah blah, and you

2491
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 2: steal as, Like fuck these black people. I can't believe

2492
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: they said that shit. While we always got to turn

2493
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 2: out the check. First of all, it is not we,

2494
02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 2: it's them. It's those people that are individually being interviewed.

2495
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 2: They didn't interview you, ass it didn't happen to you.

2496
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 2: But how you felt about them, it's how you really

2497
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: feel about this whole thing. How you feel about what'should

2498
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 2: happened to Dylan Ruth is how you really That's the truth.

2499
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 3: Because everybody's someone dealing ruth when they violate them in

2500
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 3: some of these crimes.

2501
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 2: Because if so, if a black person murders several other

2502
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 2: black people in the same neighborhood, they don't, that's not

2503
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: somebody's dealing roof that's somebody's dealing ruth. They want that

2504
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 2: nigga to die. I don't know, you know, hate to

2505
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 2: be the bearer of bad news. So yeah, man, that's

2506
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 2: what you're really fighting against when we talk about abolition,

2507
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 2: and because no one's being honest, we have these moments

2508
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 2: where people lie and they line, they line, they lie,

2509
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 2: they lie, They constantly keep this lie and then their

2510
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: show van against twenty twenty half years and then the

2511
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 2: truth pops out when motherfuckers like they need to go

2512
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 2: to jail for more than that.

2513
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 3: Well, Dino, just twenty two years. It's ten years above.

2514
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 2: The recommended sentence by the way, like the minimum centers

2515
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 2: or whatever that the I think the defense actually wanted

2516
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 2: to get paroleed. But like it's still ten years above

2517
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 2: the guidelines, and people still like not enough.

2518
02:01:56,520 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 3: And that's how you really feel. That's all. That's all.

2519
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 2: I just reconciled what it came to my conclusion and said,

2520
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 2: all right, cool, I'm not above this.

2521
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pretend to not even for some.

2522
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 2: Like weird ass signaling virtue signaling reasons. No, when I

2523
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 2: see dealing with I see a nigga need to die.

2524
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 2: That's what I see.

2525
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 3: I can even come on.

2526
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 2: Here and pretend like what we need the death pendel

2527
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 2: is because it's been used so wrong. Like I get

2528
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 2: every intellectual reason all that shit that nigga need to

2529
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 2: die though, Like, yeah, Revamp, do this everything we can.

2530
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, this motherfucker.

2531
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 2: You think he need to be on the earth, You

2532
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 2: think he needs to be breathing, that's what you think. Well,

2533
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 2: he gonna kill cancer tomorrow. This nigga need to go

2534
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 2: the fuck. I'm not gonna feel bad as a human

2535
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 2: for that.

2536
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 3: Anyway. Sorry, that was not what you wanted to write.

2537
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 2: Also, I also wanted to give some brief and by

2538
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 2: the way you said, show Van's exceptional. It ain't just him,

2539
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 2: that white woman cop that killed that killed both of them,

2540
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 2: John Amy Cooper. It's a ton of them. That truck

2541
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 2: driver last week, nigga even go to jail. The fuck

2542
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 2: he done served his time, He didn't hit anybody, and

2543
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 2: he tried go to jail. Also wanted to get some

2544
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 2: brief remarks on therapy and support slash validation. One of

2545
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 2: the key things therapy has taught me is one, my

2546
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 2: feelings are validated. Two, my feelings don't always mean that

2547
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 2: things are factual. Three, I can be wrong, but I

2548
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 2: have control. I have control to right those wrongs. Four,

2549
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 2: no human gets the right.

2550
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 3: Five.

2551
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm accountable to my actions in life. No one else

2552
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: is for my actions in life. No one else is.

2553
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 2: I say this because when I think of to my

2554
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 2: Monda's essay, I think of the many times I've seen

2555
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 2: and participated in terrible behavior on social media. Always found

2556
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 2: the right words or people to say say them to

2557
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 2: justify the bad behavior.

2558
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 3: Girl, that's a word right there.

2559
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 2: Once I started seeing someone, I recognized how toxic those

2560
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 2: behaviors weren't kept me from growing internally.

2561
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 3: The people eventually fell away too.

2562
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 4: They will, They're don't appear, they'll just appear because it's

2563
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 4: one of those things where nobody. I don't care who

2564
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 4: you are, if you spend any time on social media,

2565
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 4: no matter what the platform is, if you are not

2566
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 4: aware and if you are not discerning, anybody can fall

2567
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 4: into that trap. Nobody is above that trap, because the

2568
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 4: trap is out there designed to it's set to keep

2569
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 4: us constantly online. Be it whatever. Like I said, nobody

2570
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 4: above this. Be it. If you have a favorite TV

2571
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 4: show that y'all you know, y'all talk about the people.

2572
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 4: If we be it, you know, whatever it is, nobody

2573
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:43,240
Speaker 4: is above this, be it a celebrity, because the thing

2574
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 4: is a lot of times when you bring celebrities up,

2575
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 4: people can tell you how they really feel about these

2576
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 4: systems too. Because and I remember, men, you I remember this,

2577
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 4: and it's not as bad as it used to be.

2578
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 4: But I remember with with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West,

2579
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 4: motherfuckers used to write in here fucking our you us

2580
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 4: down when we would have any ounce of compassion for them.

2581
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 4: When we'd be like, hey, y'all, you know what something

2582
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 4: might be Roma Kanye, y'all fucking argue us that not

2583
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 4: y'all in general, but we would get letters and emails

2584
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 4: with people going, fuck that nigga. Fuck him. Well, then

2585
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 4: you turn around, you're gonna line and people consistently talk

2586
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 4: about mental health, mental health, you know, illness, mental health,

2587
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 4: reach out, do these good things, go to therapist. But

2588
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 4: when it came to that nigga, that's where your line drug,

2589
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:31,800
Speaker 4: That's that's where you drew the line. So you know,

2590
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 4: that's when I began to question, you know, people, and

2591
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 4: it began to make me reevaluate people, and like you said,

2592
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 4: that's when you begin to see that double For me,

2593
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 4: that's when I begin to see the double standard, because

2594
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where people claim they don't care,

2595
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 4: but yet you watch everything they do, you watch everything

2596
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 4: they say, you know more than than than the average

2597
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:55,160
Speaker 4: person knows about them. Well, then you do care. Quit

2598
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 4: lying to me and say you don't care about these

2599
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 4: people when you constantly watching, monitoring everything they do. When

2600
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 4: I say I don't care, I really don't care fuk

2601
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 4: about what they're doing, I actually don't care. I don't watch,

2602
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 4: I don't monitor, I don't consume their shit because I

2603
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 4: actually don't care.

2604
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 3: Right, So, yeah, and I would actually throw in there.

2605
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 2: It's I've seen it happen myself with my social media,

2606
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 2: like when I would be on there and kind of

2607
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 2: like participating in that stuff or even entertained by it.

2608
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 2: I had more interaction on my post, more interactions, more

2609
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 2: certain people were always on my page, you know, stuff

2610
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 2: like that. And what I would notice is that now

2611
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 2: I post something, I'm like, oh I didn't get that

2612
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 2: much interaction. Maybe nobody cares. It's like, oh no, Because

2613
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 2: that was really more about the algorithm pushing certain type

2614
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,880
Speaker 2: of behaviors together, like, hey, look at Rod's page. You

2615
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 2: like shitting on this person, or you look what he

2616
02:06:58,760 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 2: said about this thing.

2617
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 3: You like that thing, and it's showing it to him.

2618
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 2: And they come and they talking, and we go back

2619
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 2: and forth and we commiserate and high five each other

2620
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 2: because we're such great people now and everybody else is.

2621
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 3: Stupid, and then we and you get addicted to that.

2622
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 2: But a lot of times I think it's an empty

2623
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 2: feeling because now if we don't have someone to constantly

2624
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 2: now somebody's actions have to constantly be fueled for the furnace.

2625
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I used to get tagged to all

2626
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 2: this shit for how to look at this horrible thing,

2627
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 2: look at that horrible thing. Oh, let me tag Ron.

2628
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 2: I know he gonna have something to say. And it

2629
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:37,320
Speaker 2: is like, I don't want that to be my experience

2630
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 2: because it was affecting me negatively, and it was affecting

2631
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 2: the way I saw things and my experience in life,

2632
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 2: my actual anxiety in real life, my you know, my

2633
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 2: feelings of sadness and anger in real life were being

2634
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 2: affected by this shit that's happening in a computer screen.

2635
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it matters a lot, and it as you say,

2636
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: I changed that behavior. I just decided to opt out,

2637
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 2: and the people eventually just fell away, some fell away violently,

2638
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 2: where it's like, all.

2639
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 3: Of a sudden, they invented reasons.

2640
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 2: That hate me, almost screaming, like there's a person that

2641
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 2: to this day has me black. I don't even know

2642
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 2: what the fuck for, Like you used to love them

2643
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 2: for me one day and I thought, the only thing

2644
02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 2: I can think is I just stopped. I just stopped

2645
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,160
Speaker 2: talking about that kind of shit. I just felt like,

2646
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 2: this is stupid. I don't want to waste my time.

2647
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 2: And if you don't have something real to talk to

2648
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 2: me about, what are we going to talk about?

2649
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 3: How's your life going?

2650
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,720
Speaker 2: You know, like you know, like you call somebody your friend,

2651
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, this is my friend. When's the last

2652
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 2: time they talked to me about their kids? They husband,

2653
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 2: they job, they no. All we talk about is who

2654
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 2: we hate on the internet. That's not a friendship really

2655
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 2: that you know, we're just both miserable, loving company. That's

2656
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 2: not the same. And when I said, yeah, I'm not

2657
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 2: doing that anymore, all of a sudden, it was a

2658
02:08:57,560 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 2: completely different attitude towards me, and eventually it led to

2659
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 2: fuck you. I'm like, okay, all right, I mean not

2660
02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 2: fuck you directly, obviously, but just you like to me,

2661
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 2: blocking me for no reason pretty much a fuck you.

2662
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, So I don't know what happened here,

2663
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:17,840
Speaker 2: and to the reason I knew I had grown, I

2664
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 2: ain't care, right, it's been I'm only bringing this up

2665
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 2: as an example, and it's probably been years.

2666
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:25,760
Speaker 3: I just didn't care, and I still don't care.

2667
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 2: Honestly, it don't even matter why, because it's like once

2668
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 2: they were gone. At first I was fucked up, and

2669
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 2: then after while I realized, hmmm, I like this feeling.

2670
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 2: This person actually gave me a lot of anxiety when

2671
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 2: comment on everything I did and being like ride, come

2672
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 2: perform for this, Hey, let's talk shit about this person.

2673
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it actually gave me a lot of anxiety

2674
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 3: having to do that.

2675
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 2: I like, my default is mostly I don't really give

2676
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 2: a fuck about a lot of people's personal shit, like

2677
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 2: oh that that, you know, like beyond it's funny or

2678
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 2: not funny, I'm not gonna you know, I don't I

2679
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 2: don't care to go find out every thing this actor

2680
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 2: has done or everything this person said on social media.

2681
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 2: So we can comment, and I actually don't care. So

2682
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 2: it really did free up a lot of stuff for me.

2683
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 2: And I think those relationships falling away gave room for

2684
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 2: either more energy towards the people already know and love

2685
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 2: and don't get to talk to enough, or it gave

2686
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 2: me more energy towards myself, and I'll take both.

2687
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 3: Thanks.

2688
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 4: Yes. And also it's one of those things where I

2689
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 4: was talking about before how nobody is above it, because

2690
02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 4: this is a trap that I've also had fallen in before.

2691
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,879
Speaker 4: So I completely understand, you know, why people were arguing

2692
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:38,040
Speaker 4: with us about you know, Kanye and Kim and all

2693
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 4: that stuff. Like I like, I understood their perspective, but

2694
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 4: it took me understanding like the reason why and being

2695
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 4: truthful with myself, you know, about the situation and about

2696
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 4: how I feel. What is her name?

2697
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 3: The woman who did Girls, Lena Dunham.

2698
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 4: Yes, Lena Dunham. I had to put people don't listen

2699
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 4: to shuff. For a long time I had with her,

2700
02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 4: and once I really sat down and analyze it, I

2701
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 4: didn't have a fron with her. I have from of

2702
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 4: the fucking fans. She has done nothing towards me directly.

2703
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 4: She has not harmed me personally or attacked me personally

2704
02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 4: in any way, shape, form, or fashion. But anytime she

2705
02:11:18,520 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 4: would come up, I used to get very angry and

2706
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 4: very upset, just irrationally for no reason. I could not

2707
02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 4: understand why. But I had to sit down and ask myself,

2708
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:32,000
Speaker 4: what is it about her that made me mad? And

2709
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,080
Speaker 4: I got down to it where it was no, no, no, no, no,

2710
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 4: it was her fans. And once I realized it wasn't her,

2711
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 4: it was her fans, I let it go and I

2712
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 4: moved on and I could give a fuck name.

2713
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting, I don't even know that

2714
02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 2: it was her fans. What interaction have you had with

2715
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:48,000
Speaker 2: her fans?

2716
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 4: And it's not really not really me having a personal

2717
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 4: interaction with her fans. It was like she would do

2718
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 4: something and then you would just see her fans react

2719
02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 4: in a certain way at people and things like that.

2720
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 3: So this is the reason I'm bringing this up.

2721
02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 2: I would say, knowing you and knowing who the interactions

2722
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 2: and how everything went and who you were around at

2723
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:13,280
Speaker 2: the time, I would say it was more about what

2724
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 2: I went through like that, commiserating. Yeah, me, I'm in

2725
02:12:17,080 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 2: a group of people that don't like anything this woman does,

2726
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 2: so every time she does something, I'm gonna be mad

2727
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 2: about it. No problem, Sorry, y'all, technical difficulties.

2728
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 3: It's okay.

2729
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's what it was, because like

2730
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 2: it was content for to feel friendships that weren't real.

2731
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, here's some content.

2732
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 2: That's all it is is, Hey, y'all, did you see

2733
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 2: Linam Dunham did Lina Dunham did this?

2734
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 3: What girl this? I hate her? Da da da da da?

2735
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 3: And it's like, do I even really hate this bitch?

2736
02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 4: No?

2737
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 3: I don't even know her.

2738
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 4: Right, And and it also made me realize too, It

2739
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 4: made me analyze the company that I keep, because people

2740
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:00,280
Speaker 4: really don't analyze the people that they're around them. If

2741
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 4: you're ever to a point that you're always angry, always mad,

2742
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 4: always upset, and you're always sad and you're always depressed,

2743
02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 4: like always, and you never get any relief from that,

2744
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:12,880
Speaker 4: start analyzing who's around you and who are you listening

2745
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 4: to in the company that you keep. And the thing

2746
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 4: is a lot of those people fail to realize once

2747
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 4: they allow you to breathe and you realize that your

2748
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 4: life is actually better or different without them, they will

2749
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 4: eventually fall off like Roger said, some will leave willingly

2750
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 4: and some will leave kicking and screaming. But once I

2751
02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 4: realize that you fucked up by getting mad at me

2752
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:40,120
Speaker 4: and cutting me off, you fucked up because you allow

2753
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 4: me to see how life could function without you consistently

2754
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 4: being there. Because I realized too, with the internet, this

2755
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:51,240
Speaker 4: doesn't happen to a lot of people. But with the Internet,

2756
02:13:51,360 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 4: the internet speeds up friendships, and it gets a false

2757
02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 4: illusion of a closeness, and so you have people that

2758
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,959
Speaker 4: come in and then they want to permanently push themselves

2759
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:02,840
Speaker 4: there and kind of put push themselves up your friend

2760
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 4: ladder like they've been there forever, and they've always been there,

2761
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 4: and y'all have had these years of a relationship. When

2762
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:11,080
Speaker 4: you really look at it, you go, oh, I don't

2763
02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 4: know you. I actually don't know anything about you. I

2764
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 4: don't know about your personal life, about anything else. Only

2765
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 4: thing I know about you is the persona that you

2766
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 4: have showed me online. And so once I began to

2767
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 4: like analyze that and look through that, and like you say,

2768
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 4: once those people left, a lot of the anger went

2769
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 4: down too, Because I think a lot of the anger

2770
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 4: towards her did come around the company that I kept

2771
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 4: at that particular period of time, and I had to

2772
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 4: realize that because once that company left, I realized a

2773
02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:41,840
Speaker 4: lot of my anger went down. I wasn't a sensitive online,

2774
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:45,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't lashing out of everybody. I wasn't as angry

2775
02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 4: on the show. I wouldn't like fifty percent like I'm

2776
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:50,320
Speaker 4: just keeping that rear. Like a lot of that just

2777
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:53,560
Speaker 4: went down once I got a lot of those people

2778
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:56,240
Speaker 4: either left on their own. They just left on their own,

2779
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 4: or either some people was just like, well then we

2780
02:14:59,080 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 4: can't get on fuck you. No matter what happened, it

2781
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:03,880
Speaker 4: was beneficial to me that they left.

2782
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 2: And I just want to clarify it's not saying this

2783
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:08,560
Speaker 2: is a defense of people we like this person.

2784
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,400
Speaker 3: It's just there be comes this thing where it's like,

2785
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't it's.

2786
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,120
Speaker 2: Not in meed to be this hateful towards somebody I

2787
02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 2: don't know, right, So where does that come from? Because

2788
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 2: I actually don't give a fuck about Lena Dunnah. And

2789
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 2: that's not saying she's, oh, she's such a great person. No,

2790
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:27,040
Speaker 2: I just don't care. Like she seemed like she have

2791
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 2: a lot of fucking shit going on, and a lot

2792
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:32,360
Speaker 2: of it it seems to be bad, but I don't

2793
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 2: even consume her shit.

2794
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 3: Why am I so mad at this woman?

2795
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:35,400
Speaker 4: Right?

2796
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:37,280
Speaker 2: It was just cool to be mad at her for

2797
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: a long time, Like and Navy, it still is. But

2798
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to hang out. That's not how I

2799
02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 2: want to get to know my friends. I like to

2800
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:46,040
Speaker 2: get to know my friends from shit that happens in

2801
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 2: our lives.

2802
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:49,320
Speaker 4: Right, and I say this one one thing, and then

2803
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 4: I know we're going to move on. But it's also

2804
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:53,240
Speaker 4: one of the things if you are realizing that you

2805
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:56,920
Speaker 4: have a personality shift, Because for me, I'm a very happy,

2806
02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 4: go lucky you know, very I can't. I don't really

2807
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 4: I care about things. I'm very passionate about things, but

2808
02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 4: there are things that were getting to me that I

2809
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:06,640
Speaker 4: normally wouldn't care about. It if you realize that there's a

2810
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 4: shift or a change in your personality for real, just

2811
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 4: beginning to look around you, and regardless of his family

2812
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 4: and friends, regardless of who it is, just begin to

2813
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 4: look around you and re evaluate friendships and relationships. And

2814
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:20,080
Speaker 4: that goes back to the boundary things. Do I need

2815
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 4: to put up better boundaries? Do do I need to

2816
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:24,760
Speaker 4: cut the time I spend with these people. Do I

2817
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:26,720
Speaker 4: need to spend less time with these people? Whatever it

2818
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:30,680
Speaker 4: takes to get you to a place where you recognize

2819
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 4: yourself again, because it was a period of point where

2820
02:16:32,560 --> 02:16:34,959
Speaker 4: I did not recognize myself anymore. I was not the

2821
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 4: person that I normally was, and it took you being you.

2822
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:39,840
Speaker 4: You had to put me to the side one day

2823
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 4: after MinC. But I ain't care. You kind of angry

2824
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 4: all the time, You're kind of mad all the time,

2825
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 4: You're kind of upset all the time, You're kind of

2826
02:16:45,800 --> 02:16:48,720
Speaker 4: sensitive all the time, Like, hey, like what is really happening?

2827
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:50,800
Speaker 4: What is really going on? Because this is kind of

2828
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:54,160
Speaker 4: counter productive to the personality and the happiness and the

2829
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:55,800
Speaker 4: bubbliness that has always been here.

2830
02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:58,039
Speaker 2: Well, it's just that I know you, and I can

2831
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:01,840
Speaker 2: be like, these people don't know you, so you are

2832
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:05,520
Speaker 2: whoever you become to them, but I know who you are,

2833
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 2: where you're from, how you default are, and I can

2834
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 2: be like, there's a deviation your behavior because that online

2835
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:16,880
Speaker 2: shit feeds into that. So being angry logging in is

2836
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:20,080
Speaker 2: kind of what it's for. Yes, So that becoming your

2837
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:23,680
Speaker 2: default kind of being was not something that was standing

2838
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 2: out to them, but it did stand out to me,

2839
02:17:25,959 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 2: and a lot of people were losing our connections in

2840
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 2: real life with people that can see both sides of that,

2841
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:34,039
Speaker 2: that can be like, hey, this thing is happening.

2842
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:34,760
Speaker 3: Are you okay?

2843
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, and not be like easily dismissed or blocked

2844
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:41,360
Speaker 2: or whatever, because I really know you, I live here.

2845
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,040
Speaker 4: We have to talk, yes, And I think that it

2846
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 4: could be very beneficial to have them like real life

2847
02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:52,640
Speaker 4: friends that can communicate with you offline and be like,

2848
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:57,200
Speaker 4: hey girl, what's wrong? This is abnormal, this isn't right,

2849
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:00,640
Speaker 4: Like like I'm I don't give a fuck about what's happening.

2850
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 4: What is really going on in your world? You know?

2851
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,560
Speaker 4: How are you being impacted? How is this affecting you?

2852
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:09,560
Speaker 4: You know, let's talk about it whatever it may be.

2853
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:15,000
Speaker 4: And I'm just very thankful that I am the spot

2854
02:18:15,040 --> 02:18:17,920
Speaker 4: that I am now in life, and I tell people

2855
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:20,400
Speaker 4: nobody is above it because I know that I fell

2856
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:22,280
Speaker 4: in the trap too. That's why I can understand. It

2857
02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:24,280
Speaker 4: was irritating when people were taught with right there and

2858
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,920
Speaker 4: about Kanye West and Kim K. But I understood.

2859
02:18:29,080 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 2: In short, social media makes it easy to find, easy

2860
02:18:31,879 --> 02:18:33,520
Speaker 2: to find a way to make you feel right but

2861
02:18:33,560 --> 02:18:36,480
Speaker 2: in reality, those influences may not be what's best for

2862
02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:38,280
Speaker 2: you in the long run, especially when it comes to

2863
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:42,879
Speaker 2: conflict resolution. K. That's all yeah, And I do have

2864
02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:46,720
Speaker 2: to say, like what you said was so astupid. You

2865
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 2: can find the words to make every action you take

2866
02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:56,080
Speaker 2: right because there's always somebody else either that's gone through

2867
02:18:56,080 --> 02:19:00,200
Speaker 2: it or is encouraging it, or their words are kind

2868
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 2: of like nebulous, where it just depends on what side of.

2869
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:03,920
Speaker 3: The equation you're on.

2870
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:08,640
Speaker 2: One person's tone police and is another person's.

2871
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:12,560
Speaker 3: You know, you're trying to silence me.

2872
02:19:13,560 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, one person's harassment is another person's dragging, is

2873
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 2: another person's violence.

2874
02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:21,480
Speaker 3: It just it's all perspectives.

2875
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:25,879
Speaker 2: And I think that's what a lot of people don't see,

2876
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:27,320
Speaker 2: is that.

2877
02:19:28,920 --> 02:19:30,320
Speaker 3: You can find the thing to.

2878
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 2: Correspond to the perspective you're experiencing at the moment, and

2879
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:36,240
Speaker 2: it can keep you going on the wrong path if

2880
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 2: that's not really where you want to be in life.

2881
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:42,520
Speaker 2: So if you feel like I should never forgive people,

2882
02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:43,920
Speaker 2: there's a million people that are gonna.

2883
02:19:43,720 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 3: Tell you why you should never forgive anybody. If you

2884
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:46,760
Speaker 3: feel like.

2885
02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:50,440
Speaker 2: I should be able to cuss you out, but then

2886
02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:52,680
Speaker 2: you have to talk to me nicely. There's gonna be

2887
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,880
Speaker 2: somebody with a reasoning to tell you why you should

2888
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:57,959
Speaker 2: be able to say I want to get the machetes

2889
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:01,840
Speaker 2: and literally kill to Amanda. But anything she says to

2890
02:20:01,879 --> 02:20:05,959
Speaker 2: you is violence. There's there's gonna be somebody that excuses you,

2891
02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:07,720
Speaker 2: and that's not real friendship to me.

2892
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 3: Like, like I said, i just had a.

2893
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 2: Conversation with a friend where I'm like, you're my friend,

2894
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 2: so I can tell you, can you please stop doing

2895
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:17,800
Speaker 2: this and that? And that person didn't go fuck you,

2896
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 2: rod piece of shit block. There was like why and

2897
02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:23,520
Speaker 2: I say, well, here's why. And when they say why,

2898
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,120
Speaker 2: I didn't go go look it up on Google. Bitch,

2899
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 2: Like like I I'm like, here's why you my friend

2900
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 2: and this, you know, I want you to understand why

2901
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:32,040
Speaker 2: I feel this way.

2902
02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:33,920
Speaker 3: And and it's like, well what about this?

2903
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, this is how I feel about that,

2904
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:37,480
Speaker 2: And they say, you know what, man, I got you.

2905
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:41,520
Speaker 3: That's real. That's that's what it's about.

2906
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,480
Speaker 2: You know, this ship where we just throw each other

2907
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:48,760
Speaker 2: away or I encourage your bad behavior because you're my friends.

2908
02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:50,440
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, not do whatever you want to do.

2909
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:54,400
Speaker 3: Fuck these niggas. Nah we that's a real friend, you

2910
02:20:54,440 --> 02:20:55,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

2911
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:57,440
Speaker 2: So I think that we've lost a lot of people,

2912
02:20:57,480 --> 02:20:59,960
Speaker 2: have lost those connections and and maybe hopefully we get

2913
02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:03,320
Speaker 2: them back. So people gravitate towards the group text, you know,

2914
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 2: come on all right, last thing, she says, Oh wait,

2915
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 2: I've eaten non ice cream items at Dairy Queen and

2916
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:13,840
Speaker 2: they're pretty good. Just fine, Tierra, thank you for the Adusty.

2917
02:21:14,720 --> 02:21:20,119
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I believe the guest

2918
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 2: for tomorrow. We we got a guest, don't we is Yes,

2919
02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 2: it's she lay with sharp yay y'ah, and I want

2920
02:21:27,480 --> 02:21:28,879
Speaker 2: to say it's at eleven am.

2921
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:31,320
Speaker 4: Eleven two people have.

2922
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 2: Registered come on through, so I can't wait to talk

2923
02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:38,279
Speaker 2: to her. We love her. She's so funny. She's already

2924
02:21:38,320 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 2: always up on popculture stuff.

2925
02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 4: We'll see at eight am, Shay, yeah, eight am on

2926
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 4: the West host everybody else eleven am.

2927
02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:49,720
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Until then, this is long.

2928
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:52,080
Speaker 4: We have a lot to say.

2929
02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:54,760
Speaker 2: You know what, I just realized too. The person that

2930
02:21:54,879 --> 02:21:57,960
Speaker 2: rode in that was like, Karen hasn't been talking. They

2931
02:21:58,000 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 2: didn't even write back this week to be like, hey,

2932
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,000
Speaker 2: good job, or this is better or I like it.

2933
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:05,800
Speaker 2: So we have no idea if they've been satisfied or not. Actually,

2934
02:22:05,879 --> 02:22:08,720
Speaker 2: they didn't ever let us know we're doing a good job.

2935
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:11,440
Speaker 4: They didn't fill out the rest of the review. This is.

2936
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:16,240
Speaker 3: You hate to see it? You really do? All right, y'all,

2937
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:17,280
Speaker 3: We will talk to you later.

2938
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:19,600
Speaker 4: Until next time, I love you.