1 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to I Do Part two, the podcast for people 2 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: that either didn't get love right the first time around, 3 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: are people that have loved and lost Sondra, I am 4 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: welcoming you tonight to this podcast from Carmel, California. Sandra 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Mason from our season of Golden Bachelor. How are you 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: doing this evening, Sondra? 7 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: I am doing great for being midnight when it says 8 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: nine o'clock here. 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Well, I heard Sandra's tired, but that's okay. So I 10 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: am on with Susan Knowles. We have the Golden Bachelor podcast. 11 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: It's under Bachelor Happy Hour and it's Golden Hour, and 12 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: I hope you all will tune in. But tonight this 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: is about all things love. So Sandra, I haven't seen 14 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you in a while, and Part two, you may or 15 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: may not know, is all about finding love again. So 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: let's start back at the beginning. Tell me about your 17 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: first love, your family, tell me how we got to 18 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: where we are, because this podcast is all about finding 19 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: love again. And to get that, we need to know 20 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: where you came from. 21 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: Okay, first love as in when I was a young 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: young gul. 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Well you know, maybe your husband, the father, your kids, 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: wherever you want to start. USh. 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: God, I got married in nineteen sixty eight. Do the math. 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: It's about one hundred years ago. I have two daughters. 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: And that was love. We were in college. Boy, that 28 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: takes me back. We were in college and got married 29 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: before I graduated. He had graduated. 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, and how old are your kids now? 31 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: Fifty two and almost forty? 32 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Wow? 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: How old are you? Seventy six and a half. 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: And I count them, So you're going to be soon 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: be seventy seven in July. All right, well, you know, 36 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: happy half birthday there, Thank you, ma'am. Okay, so tell 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: me you know you've had an amazing week. I'm just 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: going to jump in here. Your photograph with c K, 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: that is Charles K went viral. Tell me about that, Like, 40 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: did you have any idea that it would go viral? 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: What were you thinking? 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. We were just having fun and taking 43 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: pictures and kind of yacking it up. And we were 44 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: at the restaurant and folks were saying, yeah, let us 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: take the pictures for you, because in two old people 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to hold cant the phone 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: up high and get the light. And so are you 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: talking to him? 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: Are you dating? Him. Come on, give us the school 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: that's going on. 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: Okay, we lived three thousand miles apart, so it's not 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: exactly dating. We're kind of like phone piles or pin pals. 53 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: So but unfortunately, well unfortunately we do live that far apart. 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: And the second unfortunately is that he has an opportunity. 55 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: His company is sending him to Cape Town, South Africa shortly. 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: I guess his first trip there will be March. 57 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: So there's that makes flirting long distance in issue. 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a brand new talent. I'll have to develop something. 59 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: So wait, are you thinking like you flirting? Are you interested? 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: Tell me what you're thinking? 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm interested. I don't know if he is or not. 62 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: I can't speak for him, but as a matter of fact, 63 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I was telling him that when it was Jones Limo night, 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: he was the one gentleman that I honed in on 65 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: when he walked out of the limo. Really, yeah, he 66 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: was the one, and just coincidentally, I've met it. 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: So wait, let me he lives in right now, He 68 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: lives in California and you live in Atlanta. So was 69 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: he there? 70 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: On? Where were you? 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Where was the where were those pictures taken? 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, I came out here years for the Rose 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Bowl Parade, and he and I had been talking, uh 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: chatting on the phone. Matter of fact, he had gone 75 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: to Atlanta for business and we were supposed to have 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: dinner one evening and I wound up in the hospital. Yeah, 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: this was supposed uh ton selectomy. 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: And how are you feeling now? 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm a lot better? 80 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Okay, good. We're glad to hear that. 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: I haven't had a cold and I haven't had a 82 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: throw you know what. 83 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I've had your cold, bronchitis, I've had it all. But 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm good now. So hold on, So you came out here, 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: did you reach out to him to have dinner? 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, because I owed him. I thought I owed him 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: from when I owed stood him up in Atlanta and intantly. 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: But so I told him I was coming up for 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: the parade, and we agreed to meet and got to dinner. 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, and was it everything? I mean, come on, give. 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: We had great conversation. He's he's he's funny. We were 92 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: funny together. We just we had just great conversation, telling 93 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: jokes and and just learning who each other is. Uh, 94 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: learning about his past and shared mine with him, and 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: we just yucked it up. It was just a lot 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: of fun. 97 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell. I can't tell if it's if he's 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: the friend zone. 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he would have to be. Again, we're three 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: thousand miles so. 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll travel anywhere for love, Saunders say, you know, well. 102 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: Okay, I won't. I don't think he would either. You 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: know he's got Hey, I always look at it this wave. 104 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm interested in the guy. Other people are interested in 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: that same guy. So it's not like I can. 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Don't you think you're I mean, come on, aren't you 107 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: first in line? 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't asked, all right. 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: So so for those of you who don't know, we're 110 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: all out here having a fabulous weekend in Carmel, and 111 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: we're here for the Pebble Beach pro am, and I 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: do I need to tell you how many available men 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: are going to be on that golf course. 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: Tell me there's gonna be a lot. Okay, So my 116 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: question for you is, what do you think? Are you 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: going to be flirting with some other guys you're gonna 118 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: be looking? Are you gonna because you know c K 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: is here? 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Have you seen him? 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Man? I know? 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, I know we're supposed to have a podcast tomorrow. 123 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: So have I seen him? 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: No? 125 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: I just walked in. 126 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Wait, what give me the school? I want the scoop, Sondra, 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: what's the scoop going to be on the podcast? 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: I have no idea? 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Nope? Are you going? Are you going to ask him out? 130 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: You're going to try to like be his date while 131 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: you're here? 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: Come on, Kathy, you're asking me things I haven't even 133 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: thought about. I don't I don't know what to expect 134 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: to this entire weekend. So I know that some of 135 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: his castmates will be there, so he gets to reunite 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: with the guys. 137 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: It's a golden reunion. Okay, Okay, so let me ask 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: you something. Are you dating at all? Other guys? Spell 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to ask. 140 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: A gentleman in my local area that I've been talking with, 141 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: just talking and and and we've we've gone to dinner 142 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: a couple of times, and uh, I met a buddy 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: of his. So that's that's dating. That's prelim dating, I think, Sondra. 144 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Help you know me? Well, you know I'm not letting 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: that one go. Are we kissing? Are we holding? 146 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: We have kissed? 147 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: So this is more than just a one time date. 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thus far, we've had two I call call 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: it to a half dates. 150 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: So, K, you're out in the cold, buddy. 151 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna Oh no, no, no, don't say that. 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to bet mister has had since I've 153 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: met him, he's had several dates. He's a working guy too, 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: so his time maybe someone limited. I'm retired, so I 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: can I'm a little more flexible. 156 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: So are you dating more than one guy? 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: No? 158 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Not right now? Are you a one guy girl? Not necessarily, 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: but there's only one guy right now, right now, and 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: he lives in Atlanta. 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: He lives in the Atlanta area. 162 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So you know you and I are both in 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the dating world now. And it's a different world, right, 164 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean tell me, I can't remember. Are you divorced, right? Yes, divorced? Okay, 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: and you know my husband passed away, so it's a 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit different. How do your kids feel about you dating? 167 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh, they're excited for me, just like I've said before. 168 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: They are my cheerleaders. When I was on the Golden Batch, 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: they were my cheerleaders, and finding a guy is something 170 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: they want for me, just like I want that for them. 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well are your kids with Do they have partners? 172 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: Actually? Yes, you know one got married, Yeah, I remember that. 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: The other one is dating a gentleman. So yeah, they're 174 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: doing great. 175 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: So how do they feel like my kids? I'll be 176 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: honest with you. My kids don't like it when they 177 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: see me with the guy kissing them, holding hands PDA. 178 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Uh uh kids that you'd have to ask them. 179 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: But they want you to be a virgin till you die. 180 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: I think the virgin things sailed three children ago. Well, no, 181 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But no, I just think 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: it makes them uncomfortable. Your kids, how do you feel 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: about PDA? Like, are you going to hold hands in public? 184 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: Kids in public? 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it comes to that, absolutely, I don't. I 186 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that at all. And I 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: don't think they would either. Yeah, they might. They might 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: kid my daughters. 189 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: So are you looking for serious the serious next guy? 190 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: I would think? 191 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: So? 192 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 193 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Really, are you ready to get like commit? 194 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: Oh? If it's the right man, I will commit. Now. 195 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: I'm not signing papers, that's what you're asking. 196 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh wait, what does that mean? 197 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: It means I'm not getting married? 198 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I mean unless you want more children at 199 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: seventy six what. 200 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: We could practice? 201 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, So okay, so you're out here, you're gonna go? 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be looking for guys out here? 203 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: I I hadn't thought about it. So what I hadn't 204 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect. 205 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not okay, let me let me break the down. 206 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: You break it down, girlfriend. 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: There is going to be a pebblebeat pro am golf tournament. 208 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of golfers. There's gonna be 209 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people watching the golfers. Men love golf. Yes, 210 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: I know, there's can be a lot of men out there. Okay, 211 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: are you gonna be searching? Do I have to fight you? 212 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Do I have to fight you? No? 213 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Of course not. You know, here's the thing. I'm not 214 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: a flirter. I'm really not. 215 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe that for one minute. 216 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: I think the most effective way to approach men or 217 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: is just to talk, just to talk and be myself. 218 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm the whole flirting thing. My god, I'm seventy six 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: years old at the I'm not flirting. 220 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: So how do you meet guys? I mean, what do 221 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: you do? You go up and talk to him? Talk? 222 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk, about. 223 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: But here's the thing I do Part two. Right, We've 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: we've both been married before. We're looking for part two. 225 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: We're looking for our second happiness, right, second partner, second 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: person to spend our life with. 227 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: Right, well, could have been more than that. But okay, 228 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean I've dated since right divorce. But no. 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: But I'm saying we're looking for that that person. 230 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: Okay, are you? 231 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: I mean I am. 232 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: I guess I'm looking. I'm not, see Kathy, I don't. 233 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to express this. I'm not out 234 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: looking and searching for a guy. It happens organically. I 235 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: bump into men, I meet men, friends, introduced me to guys. 236 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: But to say I'm out there with you know my 237 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: antenna up? No? No? 238 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: So okay, well, I think that's very fair. I mean, 239 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: you know me, I always say, guys aren't going to 240 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: come and knock on your door. You have to be 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: out there. 242 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Let me be out there, out and about. 243 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: So are you good? If you're I mean, I have 244 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: to be honest. I would like to find that guy 245 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: to have my part two with, and I think you 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: would too. But it takes a lot of work. 247 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't, I wouldn't call it work. I just 248 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. Effort, effort, Okay, effort In other words, 249 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: like you said, you can't sit at home and expect 250 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: someone to knock on the door. You have to be 251 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: out and about, you have to be Do you. 252 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: Know what I would do right now to have someone 253 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: knock on the door, just on this podcast here, that 254 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: knock and say, wow, he's here. I don't think it's happening. 255 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Just it just passed my mind for a moment there. 256 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think a lot of 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: people thought that, you know, we would have a lot 258 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: of guys from jone season, uh, you know, hooking up 259 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: with us. I think the difference. I actually I was 260 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: going to ask you this. I think that I've talked 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of the guys from Jones season and 262 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of women reach out to them. 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at all. 264 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not either. Did you have a lot of guys 265 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: reach out to you on DMS when you came off 266 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: the show. 267 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going to I don't think a lot is 268 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: an appropriate word. I've had several, but I don't know 269 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: what that's on. 270 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Did you date any of them? 271 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: No, I've had converse phone conversations. The problem, Well, I 272 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: don't know if it's a problem. The gentlemen who have 273 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: reached out to me again are long distance from where 274 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: I am. 275 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Are you willing to relocate? 276 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It depends on who it is 277 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: and what the other circumstances in life. It's just in 278 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: my mind, it's difficult to date. It's difficult to get 279 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: to know someone. It's difficult to be spontaneous when someone 280 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: lives a plane ride away? 281 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but wait, would you pick up? And I think 282 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the difference between now and part two for me is 283 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: I meet the guy I'm interested in. He says, Hey, 284 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, let me buy a ticket. Let's meet in London. 285 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, are you? 286 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: It depends on It depends on who he is. 287 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: What I mean, if I have to be interested. 288 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, if it's the right guy, I might do that. 289 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: And I've had a guy say to me whom I 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: really never met, just had half of a conversation with, 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: and he says, I want you to come out and 292 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: see you live in Chicago. I want you to come 293 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: see me and I'll pay your way. And how's that? 294 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: And I said, well, first of all, I can pay 295 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: my own way. If I'm going to come see you, 296 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm paying my own way. And two, I gave him 297 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: the daughter test. Do you have a daughter? He said yes. 298 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: I said, if some man she never met said to her, 299 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: I'll pay your way, come see me, what would you 300 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: tell your daughter? And it stopped him and he said, 301 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: I understand. So I said, so look, if you want 302 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: to meet me, you come my way. You make that 303 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: effort first. I'm not gonna hop a plane come see 304 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: you just because you paid for it. 305 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: And folks, therein lies the difference. If c K goes 306 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: to South Africa and asks me to come, I'm on 307 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: the next plane. 308 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: But see, I've already mete K. I've met him. We've 309 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: had we've spent time together. We've on the phone, we've 310 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: had nose to nose. 311 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: So I, I wait, did you kiss him? 312 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: We kissed? 313 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Is he a good kisser? 314 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: I think so. I think I think we matched well 315 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,239 Speaker 2: in that department. 316 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Listen to her. I'm telling you, getting stuff out of you, 317 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Sundra's like pulling teeth. 318 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 319 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: You know. 320 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Kathy, I'm a very pragmatic person, very practical, 321 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: very pragmatic. So I'm not one who can read between 322 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: the lines very well. 323 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: You're not going to jump off a cliff if if 324 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: you think I could be loved, you're not going to 325 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: take the risk. 326 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well that's what are you asking me. 327 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is you know, you see 328 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: you're pragmatic. Sometimes love, especially at our age, is just 329 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: jumping off a cliff saying I don't know, let's see 330 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: where it goes. 331 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So are you talking about once you're in love 332 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: or getting toward love? I'm away? At what point are 333 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: you talking about. 334 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Saying I meet somebody and I think, well, maybe I'm 335 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: interested just taking the risk. It's you know, it's not 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: like you and I are gonna raise a family, have children, 337 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: So why not take a risk? You're retired? Why not? 338 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, I can take a risk, but I've got to 339 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: get to know someone I've got. There's got to be 340 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: some comfort level there that he is age appropriate, that 341 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: he has relationships, the family relationships that he has, that 342 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: he's financially stable. There are things that I that have 343 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: to be in place before I jump off a cliff. Okay, 344 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: So because I'm too practical. 345 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say, that's that's very 346 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: that's not jumping off a cliff. That's getting all the 347 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: data walking step by stepped to the cliff, and which 348 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: is fine too, which is fine to Well, you know what. 349 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: It seems to have worked well for you so far. 350 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Are you ready for the golf tournament tomorrow? 351 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, it should be fun. 352 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 353 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: Are you a golfer? I used to golf. I've got 354 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: two sets of clubs in my garage. 355 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: Wait, you know how I talk about used to guys? 356 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Are you a used to golfer? Mean? 357 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: I used to golf. I stopped about a year and 358 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: a half ago. I stopped just before we filmed on 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: the Batch because I had a little bit of a 360 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: car accident and jammed my thumb and it swelled up. 361 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Went to the doctor and they x rayed both hands 362 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: and said, oh, by the way, you have arthritis and 363 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: both thumbs. Oh joy. Okay, so gripping sometimes is a 364 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: problem for me. So I haven't since the show. I 365 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: haven't really. I've gone out to the range. I haven't 366 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: gone out to the course. 367 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I can all right, Well, I'm going to be watching 368 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: you at this golf tournament I'm going to be seeing 369 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: who you make eye contact with. I'm going to be 370 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: seeing who floats your boat, who you're willing to walk 371 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: off the cliff for, who you're willing to walk up 372 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: and give a kiss to, who you're willing to walk 373 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: up to and start a conversation with. 374 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: Hey, I can do I can conversation. 375 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you can do that. Sure, Okay, now I might, 376 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: I might beat you to it. 377 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: Can I get some pointers from you because you seem 378 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: to be you know what? 379 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: I I pointers on what how to meet. 380 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: The guy, how to flirt, how to I mean turn off. 381 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Here's here's what I do if I find someone that 382 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: is appealing to me. I think the biggest compliment you 383 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: can pay someone and show you're interested is to ask him, 384 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: in my case, ask him questions about himself. That's what 385 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: I do. I ask, and I use their name, so 386 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, in your case, c K, tell me where 387 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, tell me you're going to South Africa. Whatever 388 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: I ask using their name, look them in the eye, 389 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: ask some questions about themselves, because I think that puts 390 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: people at ease. But then, of course I'm waiting for 391 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: those people ask me questions as well. But I also 392 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: think sometimes just a smile, you know, making an eye contact. 393 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: It's not that hard. I do believe chemistry is you know, 394 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: it's it's at the forefront. Right you meet someone, you 395 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: either have chemistry you don't. 396 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: See and I don't I don't see. I don't like 397 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: to be interviewed. I don't like men to come ask 398 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: me are you married? Or who are you here? With no, 399 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: So by the same token, I don't want to approach anyone. Well, 400 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: I'll talk to a guy and we'll chat about where 401 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: we are, what's going on, how's your game, where your buddy. 402 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: I'll talk about things that are would be common to 403 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: the environment, not necessarily go after him. 404 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but think about it, Sondra. You have to when 405 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: you meet someone, you have somebody has to say, hey, 406 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: how are you nice to meet you? Or you know, 407 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: oh you're a golfer. Oh you're here watching the golf tournament. 408 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that kind of conversation is great. 409 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Well that's how you start. 410 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Okay, But when you say start asking him questions about 411 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: himself and use his name and that's fine, Well, I 412 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: don't know, I just maybe I've misunderstood what you were saying. 413 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's what I think, Sondra. Tomorrow, when you 414 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: and I go to the golf. 415 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: Tournament, are you going to give me some point? 416 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I want you to follow after me. We're gonna we're 417 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna pick out the guy you're gonna show me, Kathy. 418 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: I like that guy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm 419 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna make it happen for you. 420 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 2: You are, You're gonna tell him. 421 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a wing woman. I'm gonna be your 422 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: wing woman. 423 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: Lord of Mercy, I'm in trouble now. 424 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: No, it's gonna it's gonna be great. You're gonna have guys, 425 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a dance card. Your dance card is 426 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: gonna be full. These guys are all gonna be like, 427 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: I want her number. I want her number. 428 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, Kathy. You say there's 429 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: going to be a swarm of men, won't there be 430 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: a lot of women as well? 431 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I measure up. Do you measure up? 432 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah? I don't. Then don't trying to measure I'm 433 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: just saying. 434 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Who cares? My point is who cares? Right, You're at 435 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the top of the heaps, so am I at the top. 436 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: You're at the top of the You're at the top 437 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: of the heap. It has been great having you. I'm 438 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: so glad you're here with us. We are going to 439 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: have a great time with some of the guys from 440 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Jones season, some of us the Golden Bachelorettes. We're gonna 441 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: have a great time. I'm so glad you hear. This 442 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: is going to create memories that you are not going 443 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: to forget. You never know, Sondra. Yeah, you're gonna learn 444 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: how to flirt. 445 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: You might find you're not going to get to know 446 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: about that's flirting. Is that flirting? 447 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Flirting? 448 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: Always thought flirting was throwing your hair, winking, staring. I 449 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: assumed that that was flirting behavior. So maybe that's the words. 450 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Do as I say, not as I do. Follow me, Sandra, 451 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: it's not flipping your hair. I'm gonna give you. I'm 452 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna give you a lessons. We're gonnay the next time 453 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: we do a podcast, you're going to be telling the 454 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: world about all the men you met at the Pebble 455 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Beach program. Thanks for joining me. I really enjoyed it. 456 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: Tune in to I Do Part two. Loved having you 457 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: and see you next time, all right. 458 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Kathy,